/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>52823988
keep crying and coping

>NOBOY CARED ABOUT THE WORTHLESS SHIT I MADE THIS IS WHY CRYPTO IS LE DEAD

>>52824028
Lol faggot, that was just a single argument. I know that it seems worthless to a moron like yourself. Keep dreaming of your crypto gains. It is not happening. But your gonna have to learn the hard way.

>>52824065
>Lol faggot, that was just a single argument. I know that it seems worthless to a moron like yourself. Keep dreaming of your crypto gains. It is not happening. But your gonna have to learn the hard way.

>>52824099
Meh. Typical uncreative zoom tard. It is gonna be glorious in a few years when shtf and you fight over dog shit to eat.

>>52824129
>Meh. Typical uncreative zoom tard. It is gonna be glorious in a few years when shtf and you fight over dog shit to eat.

>>52824187
Having a mental map to images as a response. Now that is extra pathetic.

>>52824227
>Having a mental map to images as a response. Now that is extra pathetic.

>>52824247
Speaks a deluded crypto tard arguing with others images on 4chan. Speaks volumes of yourself.

>>52824306
>Speaks a deluded crypto tard arguing with others images on 4chan. Speaks volumes of yourself.

>>52824329
I see your preplanned means of communications is finally seeing light.what a pathetic excuse. Being such a coward, not even to typed text. Hahhaha what a pussy

>>52824355
>I see your preplanned means of communications is finally seeing light.what a pathetic excuse. Being such a coward, not even to typed text. Hahhaha what a pussy

>>52824392
Another selfie of yours. Let s see another image of yourself.

>>52824405
>Another selfie of yours. Let s see another image of yourself.

>>52824417
Ahahha you could had posted an image of a chad you meme spouting preteen tgirl

>>52824427
>Ahahha you could had posted an image of a chad you meme spouting preteen tgirl

Noones cares about your 3rd world shithole opinion. If you dont have something useful to say just fuck off this board and go talk to your reddit plebs.

>>52824453
Oooo you got me. I am totally ranging over here. Reeeeee like this kid on 4chan that has a dedicated reaction image folder designed for his moment of shine. Totally not pathetic to have a reaction folder in 2022

lol this thread is hilarious
OP btfo

>>52824482
>Oooo you got me. I am totally ranging over here. Reeeeee like this kid on 4chan that has a dedicated reaction image folder designed for his moment of shine. Totally not pathetic to have a reaction folder in 2022

>>52824475
Looking for usefulness on 4chan is what an imbecile looks for

>>52824498
Based reaction image autist doing gods work

>>52823988
>artists finding out that money in art isnt about the piece but the artist

>>52824520

>>52823988
>At least back in 2017 we were deluding ourself with a decentralized future. But 2021 was all about retarded greedy normies and their stupid nfts and metaverse games.
I was around in 2017, and it was much worse, people were shamelessly greedy, now it's the same but people are tryng to hide it.
OP is a faggot and reacion image poster should kill himself

Normalfags have the attention span of goldfish. You have a lot to learn about just how psychopathic our society is if you think we aren’t going back up.

>>52824564
Even the money is irrelevant in the grand scale of things. If AI can create instant art that is better than humans, then will AI eventually make instant music, films, tv etc better than humans?

I can see the value of AI in regards to industry and services, but the thought of humans forgoing self-expression and creativity because it's fast cheap and convenient is scary.

>>52824597
20/26 of the replies in this thread are two brain-damaged retards arguing with each other, and it's the "normalfags" who are psychopathic?

>>52824606
I am well aware how psycho we are. You are deluding yourself. We will likely see a global hyperinflation for the first time in history. No one will care about crypto when they cant get something to eat.

OP here, posting from my phone. I'm trans btw not sure if that matters

>>52824625
Retail means very little, like I said you are ignorant and full of yourself because you are just like the same Baltic backwards Slavic poop state ego minded retard who thinks the world runs on logic, even if you are cynical in your logic. There is no rhyme to reason when you only look at what the cattle masses do - Their opinions, feelings, decisions do not matter. They will obey every time.

>>52824606
>>52824651
very well said

>>52824625
>I am well aware how psycho we are. You are deluding yourself. We will likely see a global hyperinflation for the first time in history. No one will care about crypto when they cant get something to eat.

>>52823988
I don't get this comic. It looks and feels like making an anti AI art argument? But cheap instant cake with all kinds of flavors seem good, no?

About crypto: just wait until interest rates drop back to zero in a few years, people will find a new reason to buy.

>>52824651
Hahah keep dreaming, idiot. Maybe even go watch another youtuber to get you good research info while you draw meme lines to your TA.

>>52824682
I don’t do any technical analysis I only do emotional sentiment judgements because that’s the only thing that matters. I’ve informed you it will go back up, it’s now on you entirely if you miss out. You own all the responsibility for yourself now. Good luck.

>>52824625
This is the most retarded argument ever
Hyperinflation is incrtedible bullish for assets retard, see pic related.
The money supply goes up and everyone wants out of fiat
Also in all cases we at least get a huge dead cat bounce in 2024 with Bitcoin over 40k the worst so now is a good buy in any case

>>52824625
>>52824714
And yes people in the Weimarer Republik also struggeld to eat food and this happened

>>52824663
it's artist cope about AI being able to crank out unique images. using cake as an example reframes it as an IRL problem, which is false since AI can't bake a fucking cake.

it basically boils down to graphic designers are assmad about their skillset being rendered obsolete.

>>52824619
ai algos make average art. that is exactly what they do, make an average

>>52824714
Wow. You cant possibly be so stupid. The delusion is strong and you simply dont budge. Dont worry, you will see hyperinflation in practice. I sure hope you are trolling.

To the emo sentiment guy, you fail to realize that crypto is a non productive asset class, and as such is prone to greater fool problem. All i am saying is that it is likely that the last guy got in. There is no infinite people. Especially not so many that can afford to buy bitcoin. I know it is hard to put down a delusion. But it is hilarious that there are actual people here that think they are soon to be rich.

>>52824788
Are you a troll?
You must be!
You completely ignore the FACT that hyperinflation leads to asset prices monning relative to the inflaing currency
You see it EVERYTIME, you can not show me ONE case where its not true

>>52824849
Yeah, lets call crypto assets. Even though they are unproductive, intangible, and without inherent value. Surely, in a case of a global hyperinflation, such stuff will massively appreciate.

>>52824870
Why do you use nocoiner speak when you supposedly an oldfag?
Doesnt add up

>>52824870
Also why do countries with hyperinflation use crypto more then others?

>>52824883
OP's mask is starting to slip off, kek

>>52824883
Read op to get my story. Also, they use crypto to get money out of their relatives and because they are currently more stable. Global hyperinflation is a different story. Then everyone is fucked.

>>52824892
Lol, hang on to the delusions and bags real tight you pussy loser

>>52824914
>Global hyperinflation is a different story.
Why?
It depends 98% on the narrative, it could create a global crypto run if the narrative is right.
Paid or organic, you are trying to kill this all mattering narrative

>>52824936
Dude, i cant believe i have to explain this.now i really gotta dumb it down. Because in case of a global hyperinflation, money loses value at amazing rates in all markets across all countries. Barely anyone will even afford to support hashing, let alone care about something inherently useless. The only usecase is to move large amounts cross border, and even then you have to pray not to lose too much value because inflation cuts through time and you have to quickly sell it to turn back to tangible assets.

>>52824997
>dude let me psyop ahhhhhh explain
>why are you not psyoped
In a hyperinflation the MONEY SUPPLY GOES UP
And the money must be stored somewhere, someone has the money it doesnt matter who.
Will the people baghold the hyperinflationg currency? No, they will rather buy crypto

>>52824997
>>52825093
Again, depending on the narrative of course which you are actively trying to change against cryptocurrency

>>52825093
Sigh. I just wanted to vent. In reality, it more benefitial to me for you to keep your belief. While taking into account that pretty much everyone here agrees with you. Gl, you are sure gonna need it in the harsh times ahead.

>>52825157
Why do you keep ignoring my points
Are you denying that the money supply goes up in a hyperinflation? You say in a hyperinflation nobody has any money, because.... the money just is gone?

>>52825182
Point to where I ignored your points or typed any of your claims.

>>52824914
>Read op to get my story
LARPing nocoiner status: confirmed

>>52825198
>>52825093
>In a hyperinflation the MONEY SUPPLY GOES UP
>>52825114
>depending on the narrative of course which you are actively trying to change against cryptocurreny
>>52825093
>And the money must be stored somewhere, someone has the money it doesnt matter who.
>Will the people baghold the hyperinflationg currency? No, they will rather buy crypto

>>52823988
>At least back in 2017 we were deluding ourself with a decentralized future. But 2021 was all about retarded greedy normies and their stupid nfts and metaverse games.
yeah 2021 sucked ass compared to 2017
i'm in no rush to buy this "bottom". i just don't see the bullish case for cryptos right now.

>>52825210
Mate, i turned the crypto imagination into tangible stuff. I made it while it was a thing. I moved on. You are late to the game. You can only lose with your bags. Tell me, you didnt pay some 5%+ fiat fees to get in? Then pray to get gains. Then pay 5%+ to get out. Then pay 50% capital gains. Did you do all the math there? What guarantees another run at this? I got in for free, pumped it, cashed out. Didnt pay taxes. But i moved on.

>>52825198
You ignored all of this and just made an emotionally bullshit argument how you try to help
That almost always point that you are not honest

>>52824619
>will AI eventually make instant music, films, tv etc better than humans?
have you seen the shitty stuff humans have been putting out lately? an AI doing better wouldn't be too difficult

>>52825267
>Mate, i turned the crypto imagination into tangible stuff. I made it while it was a thing. I moved on. You are late to the game.
See thata my main probelm with you, why did you not write this a year ago and i would have supported you partially.
Why do you want people to sell AFTER -85%

>>52825246
So you type all that and then assume i disagree with that and then you argue from there. To me it looks like you are looking for resistence to strengthen your belief in a delusion.

>>52825287
So you still have no counterarguments, thanks
>>52825287
>delusion
For now i just argued that IN THE CASE OF A HYPERINFLATION crypto will go up.
You are the one assuming shit

>>52825308
Yes it will most likely go up, as will everything, money will be so inflated. Obviously, it will be more expensive than now, but the price of crypto will not rise as fast as other assets. Not even close. Do you get that? Sigh.

>>52825339
>but the price of crypto will not rise as fast as other assets. Not even close.
Possible and i can take that as opinion
>>52825339
>Yes it will most likely go up, as will everything, money will be so inflated
Yes thats what i wanted to hear because here you sounded like hyperinflation is bearish >>>>52824625

>>52825267
I don't believe you. Also, even if you got in in 2016 - which I don't believe that you did - I got in before you.

>>52825280
We are not even at -85%. We are not even close to max pain. Dude, really, we are in like 100% YOY inlation, realistically, and crypto lost some X% of value while everyhing risen. Do you not see the signs?

>>52825390
Your belief doesnt negate the fact that i accomplished it. It is funny that you see getting into crypto in 2016 as some status sign. But that is normal for a deluded guy, i guess.

>>52825425
>It is funny that you see getting into crypto in 2016 as some status sign
I don't. You do. Which is why it was the third line of your OP after an assertion framed as a question and another assertion. I look forward to a future AI filter for posts of such low quality.

>>52825481
I see that you are retarded enough to look for quality on 4chan. No sanity can help a hoaxed mind.

>>52825396
85% was like the averge holder from the top should be down
You STILL ignore my question, why are you saying that now and not a year ago?
>We are not even close to max pain
>not even close
Opinion

>>52825583
I am done spoon feeding you, buddy.

>>52825604
You ignore my points and then whine? Wow
Why did you not tell this a year ago, why would you wait -85%

>>52825710
Who is whining? One asking to turn back time? I wasnt visiting 4chan at that time.

>>52825710
Besides, yall not budging now, i can only imagine the delusion at the absolute peak of the mania

>>52825761
Ok
But i still insist selling at this level is ridiculous
Its like the perfect midwit things you rationalize how selling the bottom is good
In the case of hyperinflation you admitted aswell it would outperform fiat (Which is Trivial)

>>52825814
I was bearish a year ago.
From end of october to start of january i was bearish
I rebought January thinking the delusion of a bloooooowofftop was gone but it wasnt and then extra factors came in.
Not everyone does the midwit thing of beeing bullish when line did go up bearish when line down and certainly not me

>>52825835
Keep holding onto rationalizations. Prep for hyperinflation in theory is one thing. Selling, buying, profit taking will show to be the last thing in your mind. Instead, try to cultivate neccessary skills, instead of being greeding and trying to one up others by looking for easy profitering. We will likely see some strange times ahead.

>>52825869
Sounds like classic two more weeks

>>52825982
Funny thing is, you cant tell when. All i know is that prices dont come down if no monetary reform. Looks like that they can keep it going for some time. Maybe even a few years. But i find that there must be some limit. Like if we would see another leg up of 100% cost increase or something like that, then a lot of people would enter survival mode. We at thin ice. Time to prepare and hoard essentials and skills.

>>52823988
Most retarded fud ever.

>>52824065
>Keep dreaming of your crypto gains. It is not happening. But your gonna have to learn the hard way.
Shut the fuck up, fattie.
Still up.

>>52824129
>when shtf
Lmao, like your bitch ass is any better off.

>>52824597
>OP is a faggot and reacion image poster should kill himself
At least it's kinda funny, you complaining like a little bitch isn't much better quality content.

>>52826223
Dont be this guy. Like, you are gonna take pride in my situation. Fend for yourself. At least i am taking measures. There is no excuse not to be ready. Inb4 hurrr i am gonna steal

>>52826042
>All i know is that prices dont come down if no monetary reform.
Well that would be deflation and no thats not in sight. But low Inflation is actually near

>>52824870
>Even though they are unproductive, intangible, and without inherent value.
Opinion discarded.

>>52824997
People in Africa use bitcoin because their dollar hyperinflated.
You're a fucking idiot, you don't know anything.

>>52824997
>The only usecase is to move large amounts cross border, and even then you have to pray not to lose too much value because inflation cuts through time and you have to quickly sell it to turn back to tangible assets.
Holy fuck, please stop posting.

>>52825267
>got in for free, pumped it, cashed out. Didnt pay taxes. But i moved on.
Lies.
Buying more bitcoin.

>>52825604
Everything you posted has been bullocks, you have no idea what you're typing about.

>>52823988
Tech evolves moron and there is no end to it, see the various utilities that privacy and web3 now provides compared to what they used to.

>>52829160
The words of OP are that of someone who has zero idea of what is being built in the DeFi space, a good example is creating a compliance infrastructure to onboard TradFi companies to DeFi opportunities a feat been achieved by AllianceBlock.

>>52823988
OH LOOK ITS BABBY'S FIRST COUPLE OF BULLRUNS HAHAHAHA
QUIT ACTING LIKE AN OLDFAG NIGGER
YOU THINK JOINING IN 2017 MAKES YOU OLD? YOU DISGUST ME
YOU HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND THAT LONG. "IT'S OVER"? WHAT A FAGGOT. INSTALL GENTOO BABBY. OH WAIT, YOU CAN'T SINCE YOU HAVEN'T BEEN HERE FOR THAT LONG.
shitposting aside,
there'll still be new blood, since there's still some places that haven't been exposed that much yet. although not as big as before. at the very least, the returns are better than traditional investments for now.
i miss 2013. i miss having an updated bitcoin qt on my laptop back when it wasn't still fucking big. i miss the faucets. i miss scouring around the bitcoin wiki like a madman.
here's a tip: ignore the fucking market, keep buying, hold, and remember to be a cypherpunk.
we need idiots to make money in the next run. a lot of exchanges have come and go.

>>52823988
yeah 99% of the market is garbage, we all know this.

Find the non dog shit that still sticks to that original ethos of "separation of money and state" or go trade something else, you're preaching to a mix of the choir and people who won't hear what you have to say.

>>52823988
False equivalency. Their cake still exists, someone else just looked at it and used it as a model for their own cake as well as using other people's cakes for inspirations. It's no different than someone looking at Tres Leche and liking the taste then making their own but adding Strawberry Shortcake Toppings to it to make a better cake. Your Mexican cake is still there but now a better flavor exists.

>>52829299
That's why you have to DYOR to separate the dogshit from the real ones focus on projects that have been building all through the bear market a good one is Alliance Block.

I have a 4090 and run dreambooth local, I steal artists style for my own pleasure.
Whenever I look through danbooru I don't think "that's a cute piece of art" I rather think "how many pieces of work does that artist have, is it worth stealing".
I'm the scourge of the artist, the bane of the brush. No style is beyond me, no artist is safe.

>>52829299
All I realized that this board is filled with stuborn people looking to dump their bag to the next fool. Nothing i didnt know. But it was fun, i wanted to vent. It is funny it is almost 2023 and you people still have substantial percent of your networth locked in crypto. You think another bullrun is gonna happen. You cant even aknowledge that boom bust cycles are limited to unproductive assets. All you can do is hope. Because you dont understand to make money you have to give up labour or effort. You choose to sit on your ass and pray it will go up. You give up your control to a risky market. It is insane how deluded you all are. What is worse, for some it has been almost a decade.

there is an actual poster that denied crypto as unproductive and intangible. You must be trolling. You cant be that retarded.

>>52830847
>you dont understand to make money you have to give up labour or effort
I understand that that is how you think the world should be. That is not how the world is.
>unproductive and intangible
Like the global derivatives market?

You don't understand what this is about at all. A system for the transfer of value without a centralized authority is important because *all* centralized authorities are self-serving, rent-seeking, opaque and corrupt. Corruption is inefficiency. By providing a fairer and less corrupt alternative to legacy infrastructure, crypto can drive efficiency and therefore improve productivity. *That* is inherently valuable.

>>52831184
Oh, really? Explain me how the world is then. You got some naive thinking. Yeah, the system is corrupt, and what you stated is valuable. But that is just a small piece of crypto. Market went beyond that and offered bunch of useless stuff which is 99.99999% of crypto offering. It is normal that it is dumping since it is all exposing inherent human corruption.

Seriously, there were 2 or 3 guys that had balls to back up their claims. The rest of you just disagreed or asked for more info out of me and left, like true anonymous cowards. I could go much deeper and present stronger arguments, but none of you is capable of challanging me. You just argue like women do, disagree and then expect spoon feeding to look for deeper rationalization of falsehoods. You zoomers are collectively super retarded generation. You want watered down proofs of simple common sense and you still distrust even when someone ia legit painting it for you. I can only imagine the stupidity of children that you will raise.

>When did you realize

52831714
(you)
>You just argue like women do, disagree and then expect spoon feeding to look for deeper rationalization of falsehoods.
52831564
(also you)
>Explain me how the world is then.

>>52831830
That is exactly the imbecilness i am talking about. Ok gonna dumb this down again. Note i made a claim there that to make money takes time and effort. You denied that. I asked to back it up. You are retarded.

>>52831846
>to make money takes time and effort
I haven't needed to work for several years because I clicked a mouse a couple of times.

>>52831879
Ok. So you are scamming or exploiting others for your own gain. But you are not ok with the state doing it to you. Gotcha. Be wary of not establishing your work ethic, times do change.

>>52823988
just wait until the normies come after the sex robots with ai personalities. this shit isn't any different than a musical artist taking influence from another, or even an artist. you're just pissed a machine can do it

>>52831900
You got a very narrow view of that situation. If what you noted happened, a few would be able to afford that, the rest would fend at animalistic level. I know that you are too dumb to think this one through.

>>52824571
>wins the argument with just memes
based

>52831893
>So you are scamming or exploiting others for your own gain.
No. I made gains in a growth-sector that will, in time, reduce the capacity of the few to exploit the many. Let's take the example of remittances. Pre-crypto, Western Union or Moneygram would have taken 10-15% of all of them. If crypto didn't exist they still would. Now they don't. That's progress.

>>52824392
>>52824417
>>52824453
>>52824498

>>52824597
I will be shamelessly greedy in 2024 when the bull comes again.

>>52830087
Partnered with Ore network to get million onboarded into the crypto space. Quite brilliant I must say

>>52829160
Not the case with blockchain. If it's not straightforward to use, people won't simply use it

>>52824883
Uh oh, I think OP might be a gay larping faggot redditor. Thoughts?

>>52823988
Also if you were high IQ OP, or even a midwit at least, you would see in your own "story" the reason why it's not forever "over". But I doubt you are self aware enough for that.

>>52835098
It's all about web3

>>52823988
Early birds often get some perks, experienced same when I bought the dip of ORE, ENS and TOWER

>>52823988
Your opinion is baseless. You better be smart to start buying or focus more on defi which is passive.

>>52823988
Crypto doesn’t need new retail investors. There will soon come a time where the crypto projects generate mass amounts of revenue and this is what will cause the token prices to rise as big boy investors start buying again