/biz/ - Business & Finance

Yeah, she can get some. You, not so much.

>>52818560
Sorry chud, u won't find ur wife there.

>>52818582
>>52818601
I have a gf bros I'm talking about money

>>52818560
How many camel shit piles did she play in you guess?

>>52818560
>Is it worth it for tax purposes?
depends how much you make dog
also what would qualify as not worth it for tax purposes?

>>52818748
>would qualify as not worth it for tax purposes?
Would you live in a communal shack in India for tax purposes?

>>52818560
They use indians as slaves and trap them in dubai, they will do the same to you. Unless you are a women of course, then they will shit and piss on you and maybe throw you some cash after.

>>52818582
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PbFZVYwrL4

>>52818560
Not having any fresh air is spiritual death for the European man. How great does it feel to revere back outside after a hard day's work and breathe in the cold European winter air which instantly evokes a flowstate? It can be life-changing. The lack of it sure is life-changing.

unironacially i live the the black building

>>52818560
i would never go someplace where drugs are that illegal and cops drive fucking lambos

>>52818824
it's called prison, negro.

>>52818822
That's some gay philosophical shit brah. Enjoy your 6 hours of sunlight, terrible circadian rhythm and vitamin d deficiency (supplements aren't the same)

>>52818843
>cops drive fucking lambos
kek, I knew lambos were everywhere over there but I didn't know their own police force drove them

>>52818560
Close friend was there for a few months.
Theres 3 types of European, well 4 if you count tourists, but working people theres 3 types.
Highest level, like some engineer that designed some building or system or something or diplomatic core level or such.
Whores doing random bullshit jobs, like hostess, yoga instructor, etc. and whoring for real income.
Low level just a step above the Indonesian and paki slave tier, like a waiter or chef or supervisor on construction, or similar job that barely pays for expenses. Living like sardines in 4 bed rooms always hugging his passport and wallet and personal stuff, getting slippers stolen...

If you cant go and have it all arranged before hand to get some high paying job and accommodation you will be among the lowest. Highest tier also have freedoms to drink and have loose schedules and can afford whores and even coke and stuff like in any other big city.
Low tier you are living mil sharia tier slavery, while watching women that do tier simialr jobs out earn you and live much easier life.


Bringing your own gf or wife there is just asking for disaster. Especially if she is blonde or good looking.

>>52818870
engineer so I may be able to be top tier. Would not bring gf

>>52818560
> Has anyone here lived in Dubai
Been here for 7 months now
> Is it worth it for tax purposes
Of course it is. But your tax situation is most dependent on your current jurisdiction of residence.
AKA if you made $5m in crypto you can't just move in here from Australia and expect no problems.
> They are overflowing with oil money
They have no oil money
> there must be some way for us to get some of that while they're looking to spend
?
>>52818822
Ignore all the brainlet haters ITT OP, but this guy actually knows what he's talking about.
Dubai is the perfect place except you can't take a walk to a new place every day and that's a bigger dealbreaker than it might appear.

As for finances:
Relocating here would require you to start a company and hire yourself. Unless you've found a job but I assume you don't want to be a wagie.
Creating a company would set you back $10k and surrounding documentation is more like $5k/yr.
Health insurance is cheap for 30yo males, you can get a very decent one from Oman for like 5k dirhams per year.
Even if you buy a place for yourself, the service charges are insane, be prepared to pay $1000+/month just for that. Of course this also means that rent isn't cheap either.
Overall, you'll be looking at $30k/year of expenses that you wouldn't have elsewhere. If you're bound to save way more than that with the 0% tax rate, then it's worth considering and the next question you should ask is whether the lifestyle suits you.
Me personally, I can't really trade the safety because being a millionaire with no mafia connections in Eastern Europe wasn't an option for me. I don't like the weather and the poor air quality, but safety is more important than both.
Also, I live on the Palm, which means I might have to learn Russian because that's basically the native language in this area.

>>52819157
Where is that $10k initial cost and $5k/year figure coming from? Is this for a FZ company?

>>52819231
>Is this for a FZ company
Yep I used IFZA for mine

>>52818560
Not worth it just to avoid taxes desu. Things are actually expensive. And you have to live in a country with a retarded shitskin 'king'.

>>52819305
>And you have to live in a country with a retarded shitskin 'king'.
This is the best part anon.
People don't wake up thinking "I need to protest because I need people to be taxed more and I should get that money".
They don't have the type of "democratic" thinking that poisoned Europe and the States. People wake up, do their jobs well, smile and enjoy the ability to provide for their families while the police is actually keeping them safe.
It's a whole different way of living and it's much superior once you actually get to enjoy it.

>>52818560
Look up "Why Dubai is terribly designed" on youtube. Basically gotta drive on highways to get everywhere

>>52819352
>Basically gotta drive on highways to get everywhere
flyover states are already like this

>>52819371
Is this Dubai? What a shithole.

>>52819384
Goybai

>>52819371
the euro fears the pitstop surrounded by nature

>>52819454
>t. Vapid consumer with hurt feelings

>>52819505
No I just realize a highway pitstop is not some deep or impactful thing. America is a very large country and people need a place to fill their car, eat, and sleep.

>>52818560
Sand niggers stink really bad. Add low iq, religion, and abhorrent behaviour due to oil wealth, the place is only good for making money and then fucking off to somewhere nicer to retire.

>>52819513
I'm sorry you're so riled up about this man. keep fighting the good fight defending it's honor. I'm sure you'll convince some people that's so heckin based

>>52818560
Dubai is souless, 0 culture. It's full of weak men and men born into wealth

>>52819530
you write like a fag

>>52819548
>ur a fag
you need to be 18 to post here

>>52819561
look, sounds like some tumbler faggot wrote it.
>I'm sorry you're so riled up about this man. keep fighting the good fight defending it's honor. I'm sure you'll convince some people that's so heckin based

>>52819579
>ur gay tumblr
you need to be 18 to post here

>>52819583
gottcha

>>52819583
but you are a fag. a butthurt fag.

>>52819589
>>52819659
>ur gay
keep seething

>>52819157
Service charges are only high for apartments.

>>52819676
shut up nigger ur gay

>>52819720
>ur gay nigger
you need to be 18 to post here

I have also been thinking about Dubai. However, rent is high there. Wouldn't a city like Sofia or Bucharest be a better choice? I am a Software Engineering in West Europe getting cucked by high rents and high taxes

>>52819805
I moved FROM Sofia.
Bulgaria and Romania are safer than Western Europe when you're a wagie.
They're not safer when you're a millionaire. The mafia wants to control everything.
I miss Sofia a lot, the city is pretty cool, and yes, it is the best place to get wealthy if you're in tech and just starting out. You'll net around 8k BGN and spend about 2-3k which will include renting a VERY nice place, high quality restaurant food for every meal, massages every week and whatever else you like. The other 5-6k/month you can invest. It's hard to beat that.

>>52819530
Bro youre literally a retard. This is just a pit stop. America is as big as the EU and there is way more travel than the EU because we are not poor fags. If you ever were here you would understand how this is nothing and you are actually a faggot.

>>52819919
imagine being so fragile a picture of an american road makes you start spergin out

>>52819919
he's just salty that he's an europoor slave who can't afford a car and lives in a crammed "walkable" ghetto full of shitskins that can rob him at any moment

>>52819892
Is organized crime really that bad there? Wasn't that also an issue in Russia and Ukraine? What about Poland?

>>52818870
>>52819157
It seems to me you need to have either wealth, beauty, or one of a kind skill to be part of the upper class. Were you guys aware of any male whores such as models, fitness trainers, or bodybuilders? Is there a market there for good looking gay escort services? Asking for a friend.

>>52819892
That's great to hear. Is it easy/safe to buy an appartment there? Currently I have €100k saved so perhaps I rent for two years, keep saving a lot, then buy an appartment there for €150k. That should be possible with only 10% tax right? Currently I work at a renowned company with 3 years of experience.

>>52820000
>t. Seething over a picture of a road

So what would be the best place to go for crypto tax benefits? Are switz banks still available for this sort of thing?

>>52820001
>Is organized crime really that bad there?
It is. And 99.99% of people will never feel that.
IMO expats are also safe because the mafia doesn't want foreign embassies after them. I've never heard of an expat getting in trouble EVER.
But if you're a local, and you made it in crypto...

https://coincodecap.com/bulgarian-crypto-trader-goes-missing-under-strange-circumstances

Then again, petty crime is at almost 0. People don't get randomly stabbed like they do in the UK, for example. Robberies are also rare, especially compared to shitholes like Berlin. Again, if you're not at $1m net worth yet, Bulgaria and Romania are the absolute best countries in the world to get there.

>>52820025
Portugal?

>>52819157
>Relocating here would require you to start a company and hire yourself. Unless you've found a job but I assume you don't want to be a wagie.
I plan to start a business, first a holding company owning the copyright, trademarks etc.

> Creating a company would set you back $10k and surrounding documentation is more like $5k/yr.
Interesting, is that USD?

>if you buy a place for yourself, the service charges are insane, be prepared to pay $1000+/month just for that. Of course this also means that rent isn't cheap either.
Ah I was wondering how much the service charge was. If you're not getting taxed the it's not that bad. since you'd pay around the same or even more in taxes elsewhere.

Houses are pretty cheap there though right?
Building a new house is around 50k AUD when I checked, and was wondering what the catch was.

>Also, I live on the Palm, which means I might have to learn Russian because that's basically the native language in this area.
Perfect haha.
Already know it.

>AKA if you made $5m in crypto you can't just move in here from Australia and expect no problems.
was planning to get out as soon as I could if my crypto started mooning, I'd offshore the holdings to a trust or holding company asap.

Outside crypto I'm hoping to get a successful tech company up and running.

>>52820007
>Is it easy/safe to buy an appartment there
It is easy and safe, but there's an INSANE real estate bubble.
Example: in Dubai, an apartment usually costs between 150-300 monthly rents. In Bulgaria, they cost between 700 and 1000 rents.
I never bought a place in Bulgaria for 35 years, I bought one in Dubai in my second month here.
You should definitely rent, there is absolutely no need to actually buy real estate, it will never be worth it.
> Currently I have €100k saved so perhaps I rent for two years, keep saving a lot, then buy an appartment there for €150k. That should be possible with only 10% tax right? Currently I work at a renowned company with 3 years of experience.
Everything you're saying is possible, except buying a place for 150k. Nice apartments are in the millions, even though they get rented out for like 1500bgn/month (750 euros).
The 100k will last you for 10 years of renting a REALLY nice place, or 20 years of renting an average one. Everything else should go into better investments (stocks, crypto) and you're golden.
Also taxman doesn't understand crypto so you don't really NEED to pay the 10% but you're on a timer with that.
I sold some crypto and cashed out in 2016, since 5 years have passed I cant' be legally persecuted for that one, kek.
I managed to sneak out while I had LOCKED avax from the ICO so I didn't legally owe the government anything, but a lot of people do and they still pay 0 and get into no trouble. In Bulgaria, you get into trouble if you DO pay your tax, not if you DON'T.
Taxman works with the mafia, check the article I linked above

>>52820061
>in Dubai, an apartment usually costs between 150-300 monthly
seriously? that is insanely cheap

>>52820054
>Interesting, is that USD?
Yes, but my company doesn't do anything.
Of course if you have actual accounting to do, you'll be paying more.
>Ah I was wondering how much the service charge was. If you're not getting taxed the it's not that bad. since you'd pay around the same or even more in taxes elsewhere.
For apartments it's around 15 dirhams per square foot per year on average. High-end places like Kempinski on the palm will set you back 41 dirhams.
>Houses are pretty cheap there though right?
Not at all. I first went looking for houses, Views, Springs, Lakes. Theyup were all bought out by foreign criminals, NEVER renewed, literally falling apart, and sold for 3-4 million dirhams up.
I found it really funny when my brokers told me not to bother. "They're 10 years old, not worth it". Like wtf the best buildings in Europe are 100+ years old.
But yeah, you're either buying a new house (which either means in the middle of nowhere or 10m+) or a house that is falling apart. That's why I went for an apartment instead.
At least with houses the service charges are minimal.

>>52820068
>seriously? that is insanely cheap
Yep.
APY still gets dropped to below 5% usually because of the high service charges eating up a lot of it.
But if you're going to stay for a few years here, it's better to buy, and once you move you either resell or rent out.

>>52820068
150-300 monthly rents*
meaning if it rents out for 50k a year, it would be priced at around 700k.
I think you read it wrong, I just now figured this

>>52820083
>monthly rents
ive never heard this term before

>>52820091
>>52820083
I get what you mean now though

>>52820076
>But yeah, you're either buying a new house (which either means in the middle of nowhere or 10m+) or a house that is falling apart.
I hear Serena is nice and they start off at 1.5-2m AED.

>>52820054
was planning to get out as soon as I could if my crypto started mooning, I'd offshore the holdings to a trust or holding company asap.
You don’t need to relocate abroad in order to do that though

>>52820193
Yea I know, but I'd like to get another passport somewhere.

I heard dubai is introducing a company tax now though, dunno if it'll impact me.

Where do you recommend setting up trust funds and holding companies?
I don't mind too much having my personal income taxed as long as my stuff isn't for example crypto that earns rewards

>>52818822
Exceptionally based my brother.

>>52820207
>I heard dubai is introducing a company tax now though, dunno if it'll impact me.
Not for free zone companies.
It will have 0 impact on you.

>>52820233
Ah ok, I'm planning to have at least a holding company to hold assets, IP etc. for subsidiaries which will make money in other countries.

Had me worried a little.
Thanks for that.

>>52818822
Double dubs checked.
Also true. I grew up by the ocean. Later in life I was forced to move inland and can’t easily leave due to reasons. It hurt me in ways I didn’t know I could be hurt.
I imagine Dubai and co would be a much harder experience, though I would have a go for a year or two for the tax breaks.

>>52820324
Just buy a place on the Palm and you have a 12km boardwalk overseeing skyscrapers on one end and the Ocean throughout.
I'm just pissed that this is the only walking I get kek

>>52820035
Good morning from Greece, Bulgaribro.

Why did you not choose Greece, Cyprus or Malta for your getaway scheme?

While I know staying in Bulgaria as a crypto-millionaire was a death sentence, I question your choice to fuck off to Dubai, of all places.

>>52819157
>Health insurance is cheap for 30yo males, you can get a very decent one from Oman for like 5k dirhams per year.
How much is it for a female?
Any info on the cost to have a baby born there?
Average living expenses?

>>52820417
>Why did you not choose Greece, Cyprus or Malta for your getaway scheme?
Because EU countries snitch out on expats.
And the most ridiculous thing is that I did everything legally, but the information would still reach the wrong people so following the law wouldn't help.
>I question your choice to fuck off to Dubai, of all places.
Singapore was closed down and Dubai is the second safest place on Earth.
>>52820419
>How much is it for a female?
7k for the same thing basically. They're taking account giving birth I guess.
>Any info on the cost to have a baby born there?
I've heard that it's expensive and you need to have had your insurance for at least 6 months before they cover that. No specifics though, sorry.
>Average living expenses?
Excluding the furniture I bought last month, I've spent 25k AED. Add 2500/month of service charges and 500 in health insurance.

>>52820417
>>52820447
Just to add, nobody moving to Dubai would stay here long term.
Taxman is not allowed to look into your stuff that happened 5+ years ago and I can actually move away from Dubai as early as late next year. Not back to Bulgaria, but somewhere else in Europe, Greece being a consideration, as well.
I have been thinking of staying a little longer, maybe 2-3 years, and setting up business with decent cashflow. Margins in Dubai are insane, and perhaps I want to have something in place before I move out, so there's also that.

>>52820463
My priorities to have a place to store wealth generated and not get taxed out the wazoo, a place to live in (Whenever visiting etc.)
I'd probably roam around europe or live there while still being an australian tax resident but minimise my taxes as much as I can.

>>52819157
>They have no oil money
wdym? oil extraction accounts for 46 percent of Saudi GDP, so how can there be no oil money.

>>52820463
>Just to add, nobody moving to Dubai would stay here long term.
Kek. My parents and all their friends and siblings said the same thing over 25 years ago.

I lived there for 6 months. I sharja around a bunch of Indians. $500 a month including electricity and water.

I fucked a lot of Indian housewives and their nieces/sisters.

The heat was unbearable and there is nothing outdoors to speak of except a sweltering concrete maze that doesn't even cool down at night, but simply radiates heat until dawn.

>>52820040
good for benefits but 90% of people vaxxed rip

>>52818870
>Bringing your own gf or wife there is just asking for disaster. Especially if she is blonde or good looking.
Go on, what happens?
just chuck a hijab on her etc.

If you are a US citizen you cannot escape capital gains taxes. There are other taxes you might owe depending on how you earn money.

The tax incentive in the Freeport areas of Dubai really only means you won't be paying taxes or very limited taxes to the uae.

Setting up a company and paying yourself a salary is a way to get 109k foreign earned income tax excluded at year.

>>52820566
>what happens?
Nothing happens. There's a lot more beautiful and richer women walking around half-naked than his fat wife, and society bends over to their every whim just like everywhere else.

>>52820566
She will be harassed constantly. Arabs assume any western woman in the uae is a whore. They will cause problems for her if she doesn't play along with them.

Every single woman there is a whore or retired whore and I couldn't get past that plus the awful weather as a white man from a cold place

As I say this I look at the calendar and contemplate the assfucking I'm about to receive on taxes again lmao

>>52819892
that's a dead country
good luck finding a woman who don't have some dubai shit behind the ears

also

>making 8k per month in Sofia

you better be the president or a deputy AHAHAAHAHAA

a swe makes 1500€ net here

>>52820035
ah yes the so called millionnaire who lives in Mladost

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

>dude im a bulgarian crypto millionnaire and the mafia (3 old guy running legit businesses) are after me
>dude believe me life is so dangerous for me in bulgaria literally the most annoying country in the world where a guy lost in the mountain in on the headlines

pic related, where i plan to live my retirement (mladost)

>>52820463
why did you not move to portugal and cash out there instead of going to dubai?

>>52819157
>AKA if you made $5m in crypto you can't just move in here from Australia and expect no problems.
so when do you go to dubai then?

>>52820490
The Emirate of Dubai has no oil. Saudi is not even a part of the UAE and is a separate country

>>52819529
Sand niggers don't stink. Indians & Pakis do.

>>52820579
Can't you use offshore accounts to hide capital gains, if that account isnt reported to irs?

>>52818868

>>52820757
because he is a larper
he is a bulgarian toilets cleaner in dubai

>>52818560
Short answer:
No. Shitskins everywhere.

>>52820762
Most people pay the necessary taxes in their home country before moving their wealth and tax residency. Those $5M will continue to generate income for you in dividend stocks or whatever, and taxes on that is what people are trying to legally avoid. There are a lot of tax laws in the green and gray zone that people use. Crossing into the red zone and breaking tax laws is stupid. Dont try to wing it. Seek legal councel and make sure you stay within the law

>>52818560
enjoy breathing a mix of sand and pollution particles fucking up your lungs

>>52820545
>I fucked a lot of Indian housewives and their nieces/sisters.
How'd that happen?

>>52818560
I would live there but eventually I would rub someone the wrong way. It's a crime to leave the scene of a 'dispute'. You can't just walk away if someone has a problem with you, ESPECIALLY if that person is an Emirati. There are too many ways to end up in jail there for just normal Western cultural behavior. I hope that changes in the future.

>>52820463
Greek Golden Visa - just gotta buy a property over 250k euros.

>>52821108
Just don't be rude? Nothing would happen unless you publicly started cursing someone out.

>>52821147
I'm always on my best behavior, but it seems at least once a year some local starts screaming at me. I'm an expat and travel full time. Sometimes twice a year, fucking trouble finds me.

>>52818801
/thread
>RHAJ2
topkek, based captchud

>>52820583
and this
OP, if you do the wrong thing in front of the wrong camel fucker with abyssal self-esteem then say your goodbyes to some part of your body

And these shitheads dressed in white all have extreme psychological issues with the west. Just take a ride on google streetview through dubai and find all the copied buildings, BUT GREATER. Most of which cannot be inhabited anymore because of fucked up construction, kek

>>52821271
you have to be a massive cuck to live in a country ruled by inferior races

same for thailand, england, dubai and singapur

>>52821218
>>52821251
>>52821271
>>52821325

>>52818822
>back outside after a hard day's work
If you're working inside you're not working hard faggot. True men work outside in the harsh elements, you limp dick faggot.

>>52821352
give a gps location and a knife and i gun down this faggot

we don't care about this globohomo whore

>>52819454
Imagine the state that nature will be in, time you get done trashing the rest.

>>52819157
i thought buying real estate outright also qualifies you for residency so no need for the fake corporation in your name
and if you dont like the weather there why not relocate to any of the other tax havens like the bahamas or singapore?

>>52820579
>If you are a US citizen you cannot escape capital gains taxes. There are other taxes you might owe depending on how you earn money.
>The tax incentive in the Freeport areas of Dubai really only means you won't be paying taxes or very limited taxes to the uae.
>Setting up a company and paying yourself a salary is a way to get 109k foreign earned income tax excluded at year.
If you're a US citizen and you're that internationally mobile, your top goal should be getting out of those shackles by getting citizenship somewhere else, not worrying about how to claim the foreign earned income exclusion.

>>52820001
>gay escort services
fucking kek go try that shit in the UAE and see what happens

>>52819454
Even the biggest shitholes look great when you start to zoom out.

>>52821560
Uncle Sam charges an exit tax when you renounce citizenship) if your net worth is over $2 million. They don't make it easy, you can't renounce if you owe.

>>52820501
I can see how this could happen, idk.
I personally can't stand the lack of walkability, but I can easily see how Dubai remains a "base" and I just travel more once kids grow up.
>>52820579
At the very least you can save yourself from future taxes if you buy a St Kitts citizenship (you can buy it with BCH), and revoke while paying everything you owe.
>>52820632
I used to make 7k net as a senior .net dev in 2017 and salaries have almost doubled since then. Granted, this was in an outlier company that used to pay better than the rest, but I can name a dozen companies that are actively looking for devs and paying 8k and more.
>>52820646
His Dubai real estate alone cost $6m.
>>52820673
You'll change your mind when you start getting the late night phone calls.
>>52820757
1. Portugal is not tax-free at all.
2. I said it earlier, EU countries share data. Otherwise I could have chosen Cyprus.
>>52820762
You suck it up, pay what you owe and spare yourself future taxation by moving to Dubai.
Or if you were smart enough to form an LLC from the beginning and trade from that, you could have saved some but let's be honest nobody does that.
>>52820803
Tbqh everyone stinks at 45C which is why eurofags will never enjoy public transportation here, kek.
>>52820837
Bulgarian toilet cleaners make more money in Bulgaria, than the pinoy/paki ones do in Dubai. Darker skinned individuals truly have it hard here.
>>52821089
+1 share your secrets, Chad
>>52821251
Literally only britbong white trash goes around like they own everything and then act surprised when Arabs don't take kindly to their niggership. Most people would actually side with the locals.
>>52821495
I didn't want to buy real estate before spending time and learning the areas. But yeah, I bought a place and once my company visa expires I'll get an investor visa with it.
Blind buying is a bad idea in Dubai, too many apartments are falling apart and brokers are sleazy af.
>>52821772
Still better to pay and THEN move .

>>52818862
You realize the entire point of having white skin is that you can make due to with less sunlight, right?

Dubai is tacky and low class

>>52820784
but UAE does have lots of oil. Dubai is not independent, their economy and development was built from oil money and is still underpinned by loans and even a bailout from abu dhabi (oil rich part of UAE). They are almost just as fucked as every other shithole in that region without oil. Everything about the "Dubai doesn't need oil" is as fake as everything else there

>>52818560
Worked in Dubai as a US contractor. AMA.

As far as taxes, that depends on how your country handles taxes. For 2023, the US is tax exempt on the first $120k if you are living outside the US.

>>52818801
Westerns with in demand skills work like human beings under contract. Brown people from the 3rd world? Not so much.

>>52818870
Yes, your host can usually hook you up with SEA and Desi trim. Some Russian girls just want to have an American. I felt bad for some of those Bangladeshi construction workers. They lived in cramped barracks on the edge of town. They weren't allowed to leave. A bus took them to work everyday where they worked on a construction site with a fence like a minimum security prison. They had guards.

>>52819352
Because it's hot as hell, and why would you walk in that? You can go from complex to complex and walk around the complex. Winter is ok.

>>52820583
They assume that because it is accurate.

>>52821108
Nonsense. Essentially crime free. They just treat you like the hired help because you are.

>>52821772
No need to renounce your citizenship unless you are trying to avoid some crimes. Just make your money overseas and don't reside in the US. I have property in the US in an LLC. The rental company manages it, and I keep a small room/office when I need to return to the US.

>>52821894
I'd still rather be safer in a low-class society than surrounded by knife stabbings in a "classy" society. Incidents happen everywhere, obviously, but in Western Europe, staying safe is the peculiarity.
The Abu Dhabi bailout played a role back in 2008, that's a fact, but it's minuscule compared to the economy that Dubai has today, and the economy that Dubai has today is 2% natural resources.

>>52821983
yeah I think I'm on the verge of fleeing western europe too (UK). I live rural so there basically isn't any crime but it's only a matter of time
>the economy that Dubai has today is 2% natural resources.
and the other 98% isn't gonna stick around when the region descends back to camelriding

>>52822023
>and the other 98% isn't gonna stick around when the region descends back to camelriding
They've already established themselves as a trading hub, a major tourist destination, and have one of the most profitable airports in the world.
Their banking sector isn't going anywhere, either.
As long as they remain as safe as they are, there's always going to be interest in their real estate, too.
The Investment Corporation of Dubai (sovereign fund) holds $300,000,000,000 in assets globally, growing every year, for a country of a few million.
Only stuff like e-commerce and software development might go south if decide to introduce income taxation, but that seems far away.
They might suffer the occasional crash here and there, but they aren't going to be replaced anytime soon. I'm very confident that Dubai will remain a world-class place to live well into the 2050-s.

>>52821894
Incredible that all that degradation was only worth a grand total of $1m. She is a fucking idiot lmao

>>52822091
you would do it for 100K

>>52822174
I already have 100k.

>>52822089
>KgNObbwd
>kg nob
How did you get such a heavy dick?

>>52822091
Imagine a whore rostoid talking about "money liquid".
Clearly a coomer larper wrote this post.

>>52821861
would appreciate any tips for house buying and applying for investor visas
cause after the shit from this year i also want to escape the eu as fast as possible

>>52819157
How big of an issue is the air quality? Do you see it being mitigated in the near future?

>>52822323
>would appreciate any tips for house buying and applying for investor visas
House/Apartment needs to be worth 2m AED or more. Mortgages are allowed, but your initial payment needs to be above 2m AED, also.
Most developed countries have visa on arrival, and you can remain as a tourist for 90 days which could be enough for you to find a place to buy. Don't buy blindly, photos are often fake in the offers.

Use bayut.com and only check VERIFIED ads. Take into account that you'll be paying 4% tax on the purchase, 2.1% to the broker, and if you're buying with crypto - another 2%-ish, on top of about 25,000 on notary fees, etc.

Also check for service charges. Most of them are listed here: https://www.luxuryproperty.com/dubai-service-charge-index-for-2020

Before you buy, you can check if you're overpaying by checking the previous purchases in the building. If you have a supercomputer, you can open the spreadsheet from here: https://www.dubaipulse.gov.ae/organisation/dld/service/dld-transactions

But you'll probably have an easier time using this website: https://dxbinteract.com/dubai-house-prices

DXBInteract is also pretty good when you go to a viewing, because if you memorise the unit number, you can type it in and see the property's history.

Don't go for places with expensive beach clubs in them, since you'll be paying 30k+ in service charges for the beach club, and chances are, you can get away with paying 5k for advplus or privilee, and living in the cheaper building next door.
Go for Palm if you like beaches, Marina if you like skyscrapers, or Downtown if you have tons of money and want to be surrounded by other wealthy people. If you want a good value apartment in a nice location you can try The Greens, if you want a house nearby check out Springs, but keep in mind most of them are in terrible condition.

>>52822379
It's currently perfectly clean.
There are days with horrible pollution though. Sandstorms are also an issue a few times per year.
On bad days, if possible, you stay home and use a xiaomi air purifier and you're fine.

>>52822091
liquid money probably means she has at leas 10x that. I'd imagine she would get paid with cars and spices or some shit.

>>52818560
How do I get a job in Dubai or any sand nigger country as a US medical professional?

>>52823020
you won't . stay in your shithole 3rd worlder

>>52821616
You can make it work. It is the same way that drugs, alcohol, and women are not allowed in Islam but it happens all the time anyways. As long as you have power (money) anything goes. It is only a problem if you are on the bottom of the pecking order.

>>52818560
I have lived in Dubai since 2007. My Russian girlfriend (hooker?) is in the shower right now cleaning up before I fuck her all night so I don't have much time, but let me give you the highlights:

1. You can only live here if you have a visa and that is linked to a company you own or your job. There is no unemployment in Dubai because if you lose your job you have 30 days to find a new one or get the fuck out.
2. They still have debtors prisons here so if you borrow money and don't pay it back, they really will throw your ass in jail. Even if you are American - for some reason they think they are special and the rules don't apply to them but they do.
3. There is a new company tax of 10%. I for one am thinking of moving my operations to Russia as the Dubai property market is going fucking insane right now as everyone is moving here. I am contrarian and think I can make more money in Russia....also the whores are cheaper in Russia. Right now a top shelf Russia/Ukrainian whore is charging 2000 AED (about $550 USD) for you to basically do anything you want. Be careful, they are more addictive than cocaine.
4. It is an expensive city. It's like LA or NYC expensive and if you ain't got no money it sucks like you cannot imagine.
5. Infrastructure is great. You will realize how bad your politicians fuck you over when you live in Dubai which has amazing infrastructure.
6. Emirates is the best fucking airline in the world. The man who runs it is a fucking genius. Direct flights to every major city in the world.
7. Food - there are so many places to eat you could never eat in the same place twice for your life.
8. Alcohol is available and expensive. Go to Um Al Quain for that.
9. You will need a car.
10. You can get to Europe and Asia in like 5 hours.
Right now the weather is like Palm Springs in the winter.
Listen, my Russian GF just walked out of the shower in her towel. Gotta go.

>>52818560
Best part of Dubai: no Jews allowed

>>52823240
So how did you get the money to even have that lifestyle? Crypto, self made business, or something else?

>>52823268
the bitch is still getting ready so i have a few more minutes. she loves dressing up in lingerie for me.
oil and gas engineer. the climate changers are idiots.
you need to have a special skill here. this place is heartless. you provide a special skill or get the fuck out. and yes, the women here only want money - i mean ALL women. I know guys whose wives are MORE greedy and gold digging as any whore you will ever meet. And no, you don't want to bring a wife here. You will get divorced as soon as you see the talent that is available ,ready and willing. my chick loves threesomes and while I have to pay some girl to lick her pussy but it's Dubai. Nothing is free.

>>52821894
>admitting to multiple counts of pedophilia

>>52823240

Larp

all I know is if youre going to live there then do NOT live in dubai, that place is horrible to stay in long term.

choose sharjah or abu dhabi for long term living those places have sovl

>>52823430
dude got an achievement , fucked a whore. let him celebrate his moment

>>52823545
>choose sharjah or abu dhabi for long term living those places have sovl
Can confirm. Abu Dhabi is a bit pozzed and had extremely draconian covid laws that they only just lifted early this year. Meanwhile in Sharjah, a vaccine/PCR mandate was never even floated and while mask laws existed, no one would do anything if you didn't wear one.

>>52823629
He has fucked his life if true. I am a 24 year old virgin who is literally afraid to have sex with enthusiastic 10/10 instantly accessible whores because I know people who have lost all their money to them. It is as much of a vice as gambling or doing drugs in terms of destroying your character and wallet and I have massive respect for the man who lives here and avoids whores.

>>52823346
she has a skinny fat body and your bathroom is so close from where you sit that you probably live in a studio

kys bulgarian toilets cleaner

>>52823713
Idk how people pay for whores. I instantly get depressed and regret payong for a woman body just after I ejaculate

Having a nice relationship is so much better

>>52818822
go back to /pol

>>52818582
Yeah, get fucking shit on by some shiek being a Dubai porta potty

>>52818560
My sister is a solicitor there and they view cats as vermin, they literally fill up a bin wagon with them then dump them out in the desert to cook to death, revolting people

>>52823910
>0% tax, no corruption, extremely clean and safe
>... but le cats :(
Get your priorities straight you fucking spastic. You probably bootlick kiked euro shitocracy society where you are gouged for 40% of the value you produce to feed corrupt politicians. Absolute retard.

>>52823859
Go back to tambler

>>52818560
I am. Any particular questions?

Don’t move inside the towers in marina, all are cockroach infested.

>>52823833
The whores in Dubai are different and 1000x more dangerous. They are legitimately happy to get fucked by people who can afford them which trips you out when you notice it and makes you come back for more. They know a lot of people feel guilty about fucking them so they soothe the guilt out of you, a lot of people have never felt a comforting feminine touch in their life so they can't get enough.

>>52823910
Your sister is a screeching harpy and an insufferable dumb bitch. Everyone feeds and waters the cats under my building and they even have their own makeshift shelter now.

>>52823240
Almost all is correct. I dated in Dubai and fucked for free but it was like playing the game on very hard.

The money part is not really correct. You can live cheap here, but it’s no fun. There is no middle class just lower and upper. If you are used to European standard living it’s even a bit cheaper here.

Shop groceries at VIVA (discounter like ALDI), union coop and carrefour are good too.

>>52824103
>but le cats :(
If you can't respect animals I dunno what to tell you anon.

>>52818582
Ya. Get some Arab feces on her face

>>52818560
looks comfy

>>52824204
Not really interested in whores, but do men who are used to comforting feminine touch fall for this?
I wouldn't ruin relationships over visiting whores, but if I were to ever do so, I'd choose a trashy one I'd have pornstar sex with.
For the other stuff you need a real gf imo, knowing it's faked would get me even more depressed.

>>52819538

Butthurt European here can just tell. Nobody wants to live with your Nigerian immigrants Euro

>>52818560
>living in dubai
>woman
>no headscarf
We all know exactly what kind of work shes in involved in

>>52818560
>living in the middle east
bro, we had like 5 crusades about this. just go to monaco or switzerland

First time I saved an entire thread on 4chan. I've been here since 2005. I kinda figure I'm going to need this information later, but I don't want to read through everything. Read through half of it so far.

>>52824204
cope
loser
you pay for sex ahahha

>>52824718
>but do men who are used to comforting feminine touch fall for this?
It depends if they're currently heartbroken or not. Men who are in a loving and fulfilling relationship have no reason to visit whores unless they're extreme degenerates.

>For the other stuff you need a real gf imo, knowing it's faked would get me even more depressed.
A lot of men here who are otherwise handsome, well-educated, come from good families, etc, don't really have prospects before age 30 because they haven't maximized their income potential, so no girl wants to marry them yet and its a LOT of work to get a girl to have premarital sex with you here (good thing imo) unless she's a complete slut nobody wants, so prostitutes or porn become their only options to exorcise their sexual frustration.

A nice side-effect of this is that since its so common for men at age 25-30 not to have had any sexual experience yet, the incel stigma is effectively cancelled out and is nonexistent here so men don't face any social pressure towards having promiscuous sex. The sexual dynamics here are a bit hard to understand for a typical westerner mainly because girls here still see their virginity as a very strong bargaining chip for landing a top-tier man and society operates on that principle while virginity is a nothingburger in the west.

Like another anon said, dating here is like playing it on "very hard." I had no idea until I went to London for a few weeks and was hit on by cougars just for being a well-dressed sane-looking young man. That sort of thing has happened only once or twice in my life here. It is a completely different big factor for it being so socially stable here.

I'd guess things are completely different inside western expat social circles but I have no experience with that so I can't say anything about it.

>>52825087
Have you ever seen or experienced any low key gay activity? It seems to come up when guys need to get off but don't have an easy outlet. Bonus question: Are you aware of any guys being successful being successful being an escort / model / prostitute?

>>52825087
>dating here is like playing it on "very hard."
I grew up in bahrain, can confirm its like that, and everything else you said pretty much

>>52825069
My parents came here as poor immigrants in 1995 and I was born and raised here and I don't think its worth coming here anymore unless your company is offering to do an internal transfer and is paying for your accommodation and relocation expenses. The golden age has kind of dried up here and you don't have a real chance of making it from nothing anymore or living decently unless you're extremely rich already.

>>52825229
>Have you ever seen or experienced any low key gay activity?
Yes it happens semi-regularly. I found out that one of my best friends from high school has klinefelter syndrome and would get fucked by the guys on his block. He ended up getting fucked by a famous ad-producer and got into some regional ads here as a result. Some grug-tier guys fuck each other in bathrooms, and there are a few famous trannies in every area that let guys run a train on them. One of those tranny-fuckers tried justifying it to me that it isn't gay to fuck a male as long as your not the one getting penetrated, and that its good training for when you get married. Generally you can tell with a simple physiognomy check who's a fag and who isn't and its really not that sizable of a portion I think.

>Bonus question: Are you aware of any guys being successful being successful being an escort / model / prostitute?
Yeah the guy I talked about in hs is a pretty boy with blonde hair and green eyes so he does some modelling through the connections he made while getting fucked. I imagine there are many such cases but its never openly revealed that the model is gay or that he's available for you if you have the money unless you're in the right circles since its haram.

>>52821108
>I hope that changes in the future
Why? If you like your culture so much then stay in your country with your people. When will tourists learn the world is not their playground

>>52825255
Its like that throughout all of the Islamic world and its better this way. I don't really care that I'm a 24 year old virgin and nobody brings it up because I'm well-adjusted. Such a thing would be impossible in the West because you would constantly get psychologically beaten-down over it. People here understand that its a dangerous and stupid game to poke sexually frustrated young men with a stick.

>>52825450
Agreed 100%. YGMI anon.

>>52825478
thanks fren

I read this entire thread and I just don't get it. Moving to a place like Dubai or Eastern Europe comes with a lot of compromises. Just how much money are you guys saving on taxes? I'd imagine it would have to be a lot because it doesn't seem worth it to me. Is there something else I'm missing here? Women and food sounds nice but I'd imagine that can get old fast. But living around arabs, stuck indoors all day, strict alcohol laws, and the logistics of it all alone sounds like hell. I haven't made it yet but I am exploring the idea of living outside the U.S once I do because I'm sick modern day living in this country.

>>52826409
>it doesn't seem worth it to me.
Its not. See >>52825257

Despite all the memes, USA is still the best country in the world and has something for everyone. It also has the highest wages and currency in the world. Also, leaving your family, friends, and the place you grew up in is extremely rough psychologically. There’s really no reason to leave USA for anywhere else.

No drugs, no performance enhancement solutions... this makes it kind of pointless.

>>52825341
>a simple physiognomy check who's a fag and who isn't
How what type of facial features or general look sets off your gaydar?
What about more masculine guys who are involved in fitness. So no trannies, or goblins. Have you ever seen any fit guys with wealthy sponsors?
What ever happened to your friend? Did he stay closeted or come out?

>>52825257
>The golden age has kind of dried up
What changed in Dubai? I always thought it was a luxury vacation spot, tax haven, and black market for the wealthy. This was a place you go to not to make but after you made it.

>>52821772
Exit tax is just the government making you pay taxes on the unrealized gains that you have. A lot of countries actually do the exact same thing. Moving to a tax haven is usually to protect future gains