/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>52819221
yawn. too many normies hearing about ai dev this week and overprojecting everything like they always do.

>>52819221
That's actually crazy
Automation in itself is good, but this society has no framework to account for all the lost jobs which will speed up a violent revolution

>>52819221
I just sit and relax after a day of manual labor work white collar faggots can't replicate.

>>52819221
>top 54%
that's only finishing the first out of four problems on a Leetcode contest

>>52819347
here's your violent revolutionaries:
https://youtu.be/XatCv5jfcYU

the rest is at home jacking off to furry porn

>>52819221
>A bunch of low-IQ normies and midwits begin running from programming thinking they'll actually get automated and not that the job becomes 10x more easy.
Holy kek, bring on the fud, pls don't learn how2program, go become a male nurse instead :)

>>52819221
If you read the article, you would realize that it says 54%, and on top of it if you need the ai to build something useful you need a programmer to guide it. The only thing ai tools will do is help programmers be more efficient. That efficiency will go straight back to us since non programmers don't know wtf we actually do.

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Pride comes before a fall

>>52819328
it's funny
imagine they actually launch ai smart contracts
we could drain them so easily. I was playing around with it the other day and it just wrote complete garbage.

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holy shit the cope has already started lmao

>>52819221
90% of software development is talking to your users to find out what they really need not what they say they need, then designing something actually useful, maintainable, scalable and resilient.

Once you have all that information actually turning it into code is the easy part.

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If you can create an AI that fully replaces software devs then literally every other job will be threatened. AI is a big meme

>>52819221
Is this like
>THESE DRAWING AI WILL MAKE ARTISTS OBSOLETE
>LOOK AT THIS GENERIC GENERATED BOOB LADY
And literally nothing changed?

>>52819221
Never has there been a group so smug and in need of JUSTing than the "learn to code" bros. Pottery in motion

>>52819221
Probably the sweetest karma of the last decade. I remember discussing automation with a redditor web dev soÿim being all smug that at the end only developers will have a job kek.
I hope 90% of them get fired or a 60% paycut.

>>52819550
You realize that if AI does actually become better than human programmers we're all dead or matrixified in a matter of months

>>52819696
>Bro it's like terminator
I fucking hate midwits so much, holy shit

>>52819370
Dumb faggot. Starvation would make anyone a revolutionary.

>>52819910
Nobody gives a fuck about your starvation meme, no starvation is occurring just because a bunch of retarded programmers and supermarket wagies get fired.

>>52819943
I know we're on /biz/ so people are literally incapable of thinking past the current quarter but I never once mentioned coders or wagies, I'm talking about how people become revolutionaries in historical terms. They typically do it because they are starving. What else but revolution should I expect to happen if AI can induce just a 26% sustained, permanent unemployment rate? That's not even an unreasonable number, the real crackhead AI enthusiasts think 100% is possible.

Just like the invention of electric saws and nail guns has rendered carpenters obsolete.

>>52819430
ok? if this results in even 20% of SWE jobs going away it would be devastating for the field.

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Holy shit it's over

>>52819221
Don't care if you think I am copying or not, because you are a bunch of neets and I have over a decade in experience in the field, but there is not a single example of AI solving real world software specifications in a maintainable level. Not. A. Single. One. Prove me wrong. So far it is all small competitions problems and wrong stack overflow answers.
Writing poetry, news, music, movie scripts, on the other hand...

>>52819221
Yeah, just like how copilot was meant to destroy all coding jobs right?

>>52819221
What's the point of this on a business and finance board?

>our AI placed in the bottom half of a coding competition

kek

>>52820165
Bro I saw someone post a four line AI generated if-else statement that was literally copypasted from stack overflow and they were claiming it would replace programmers.
Not even a programmer but people are stupid as fk.

>>52819221
How will poojeets cope?

>>52820187
Literally everything retard

>>52819572
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7PbFZVYwrL4

>>52820165
>So far it is all small competitions
So far.
This will change within 2 years mark my words, do you even realize how fast AI is moving? keep coping but you will be out of job soon

>>52819221
>Jarvis, make me a profitable online business

>>52819221
>t. coping trade cattle that doesn't understand anything beyond a hollow clickbait headline

When compilers first let people abstract assembly it was also "the end of programming".
Imagine thinking that embedded systems in cars, jets, and medical equipment, or software powering high frequency financial instruments, etc. will ever have a fully autonomous production cycle.

>>52820199
AI experts themselves are warning there could be bottlenecks in the progress. Latest improvements are more a result of the hardware getting stupidly better than the software for these AI systems. But yeah, years down the road it is gonna be amazing. Not today.

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KEK

>>52819221
That's why I'll switch to being an influencer

looking forward to the first production incident that these mysterious AI programs that no human understands cause
if the prompt engineer that created the mess isn't actually technically competent then you'll see the very first instance of a company going bankrupt due to AI

>>52820260
shhhh, would be based, let it happen

>>52820222
>Imagine thinking that embedded systems in cars, jets, and medical equipment, or software powering high frequency financial instruments, etc. will ever have a fully autonomous production cycle.
Image thinking you could ever automate shelf stacking

>look! I got a half million fanuc to place this carton of cereal on a table in an office based environment
Now speed that up, a thousand odd times. And increase the pack sizes and shapes to one thousand different examples. Include irregular shaped glass jars of coffee. Now include the broken, crushed packs. It'll just make a fucking massive mess. And massive, expensive mess. But at least it provides justification for the millions of dollars spent on r&d diversity hires and management consultancy for each case study.

I had a cnc lathe by the time I was 17. Its easier to automate middle management jobs, very easy, by just creating a shift scheduling app. But they won't do that, because then they can't rig the heckin' diversity figures by boosting tokens to a supposedly higger skill role 3 months after they start. That's the same reason they'll never role out those movement tracking bracelets wide scale.

>>52819221
Another poorfag. Why is biz so full of useless poorfags that seethe at code monkeys kek. Fucking undesirable cunts, actually disgusting to see, you're embarassing urself u troon, get some self esteem, u reek of jealousy and it's seeping out uncontrollably, Frankly it's just embarrassing to see

I want every anon to look at this thread
Look how scared they are
They know, you can literally smell it in the air
They are 100% aware of what's going on
You post this AI thread and they post PARAGRAPH after PARAGRAPH of why their skillset is safu.
It's clearly the biggest cope from an area of people who are, for the most part, getting paid to do nothing 95% of the time.
And they know it, that's why they this AI shit is getting talked about nonstop. They are genuinely afraid of their futures.
Im thinking tech sector gets absolutely annihilated soon. A lot of anons on here will likely get replaced or have their salaries cut to a fraction of what it was before. Probably extreme whiplash-tier numbers. Like the days of the average tech worker making 6 figures is over and that will be reserved for higher levels.
If you were learning to code for college at this point it could be even a good idea to switch paths. You'll be graduating into a fucking disaster of an industry that's half full AI and half AI assisted humans.

>>52819221
I mean this stuff was way predicable. In the next 5-10 years ai will replace a lot.

I studied finances and switched to coding for easy bugs. I work in ERPs so I can easily change my CV to pretend I've been doing finances all along. Is a good idea? I think if coding has been automatized, and my job was to automatize financial processes, finances aren't safu either. I'd do anything and I don't need to earn a lot of money, I just don't want to do manual labor ever again

>>52819221
Fucking RIP to all H1Bs working in tech

>>52820477
Wasnt the entire financial industry ripe for automation? Only safe places are those where interacting with people is required, like investment banking.

>>52820495
I think I'm in the spectrum, not good with people. Have some experience as dish washer though, but I'd want to avoid it if it's possible.

>there are people that actually thought self-driving trucks would replace trucks entirely by 2025
Sounds an awful lot like
>There are people that don't think ai can copy and paste better than them

>>52820199
Technology doesn't necessarily move forward

Ai in video games has been around since the 90s but has gotten progressively worse every year.

>Things in the future will always be better because it's the future and anything could happen
Is inherently a flawed method for measuring anything.

If everything was better in the future everyone who had shitcoins would be billionaires by now

>>52820066
They get replaced and die out, nobody cares about historical cope, we came over this multiple times.

>>52820612
> This time its different
kek

>>52820353
>If you were learning to code for college at this point it could be even a good idea to switch paths. You'll be graduating into a fucking disaster of an industry that's half full AI and half AI assisted humans.
Luckily, I already made about $700k in the career and I'm at senior level. I'll agree that entering the field now isn't a choice I'd like to make. I'm content with the amount I've looted, so if the rug is fully pulled tomorrow, I'll just take my brain to a different field.

Your main take is people actually in these roles writing paragraphs = they're scared? lmao...
2 more weeks I guess

Burden of proof is really on you. Until people are running a full product lifecycle from AI prompts, I'm not convinced it's going to provide structural endangerment. Who will be writing the prompts? The average human has very little ability to use language precisely

t.verification not required

5 years from now
I will still be making 120k+ from my comfy WFH software job

screencap this
your cope will be phenomenal

>>52819221
Overestimated in the short term and underestimated 100 years out.

>>52819221
We're still waiting for them to automate all the accounting jobs and that was something that was promised like 30 years ago.