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highly doubt some gay chatbox is gonna replace all that but ok

>>52773772
You okay bud?

>>52773772
AI is cool and will continue to advance but you're drastically overestimating its power. For the foreseeable future it's only a work multiplier but only in the hands of an already competent worker who can see the bigger picture.

How do I invest in ChatGPT? the moment this tech gets a direct investable instrument it's gonna day 1 10x. Not because it's gamechanging but normies are impressed by cheap AI tricks.

>>52773796
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>>52773850
Holy fuck it's actually over. It's literally, unironically, NO CAP OVER.

>>52774160
do you realize AI like this gets all its info from google / wiki / etc? no you dont. because you are retarded

>>52773772
getting rid of a bunch of communities where woke retards try to sink their teeth into discourse? no complaints.

AI can't replace software developers

>>52774191
Dawg look at the image I posted. It understands literal gibberish code and can translate it to plain English. It's FUCKING OVER!!!!!!!

>>52774160
great -- now you have some code that 0.00001% of developers can debug, and that nobody will ever maintain, and which has to be rewritten from scratch when changes are needed.
now simply prove it runs and works for all the cases you need it to and you can put it into produ-- oops!
https://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/Halting_problem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarski%27s_undefinability_theorem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del's_incompleteness_theorems
you can't. :)

>>52774215
>he posted again
>it wasn't simply bait-then-leave-thread
lmao dunning-kruger scores another win

Chatgpt is hosted on google servers.

>>52774243
>>52774263
It's over. Don't you get it? IT'S OVER.

oh yeah this thing works great

Can it teach me how to shill my shitcoin

Can I use it to get a lil piece of pussy?

>>52774413
holy shit

>>52773772
you posted similar shit 83983298 times already faggot say something else
sage

>>52773772
all day long seething chuds cry about software devs lmao

>>52774160
Now let's see it explain fast inverse square root lmao

ai lovers is the new filter to detect tech illiterate retards

>>52774160
Codemonkeys bros...

>>52774638
KEK WTFFFFFFF ITS UNIRONICALLY OVER LMAOOOO

>>52774413
aww that's adorable!

>>52774413
Btfo

>>52774612
yeah it's been that way a little while now, but it's definitely become the strongest signal lately

>>52774243
>now you have some code that 0.00001% of developers can debug
>which has to be rewritten from scratch when changes are needed
They don't need to debug it. If it doesn't work, AI will debug and rewrite it 10000 times until it works.

>>52773772
>NIGGERS.JS
I kek'd

>>52774612
>>52774813
You just confirm that all the AI copers are butthurt codemonkeys that don't want to accept they're getting automated.

>>52774821
AI doesnt know if it works or not, it just generates text dumbfuck

if it knew that n=np would be solved

>>52774850
Nigger, neither does the developer know if it works or not. Why do you think we have QA?

The difference is that you don't have to pay the AI as much as you pay the h*man developer.

>OpenAI makes ChatGPT free so people can try to subvert it, giving them free training data on how to teach the AI to be immune to subversion
>everyone immediately tries to subvert it
OpenAI keeps winning

>>52774569
it can't explain anything it wasn't told how to explain:
https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt/
>We trained an initial model using supervised fine-tuning: human AI trainers provided conversations in which they played both sides—the user and an AI assistant. We gave the trainers access to model-written suggestions to help them compose their responses.
>human AI trainers provided conversations in which they played both sides
technicians who understand how the training system will learn what it's told, have to themselves be taught how to program, and what the algorithms are that they're describing, and how they work, and what could be wrong with them, etc.
in other words: >>52774197 AI cannot replace software developers
but you know what it does do? it enables me to talk to a piece of software that replaces my 10 junior devs who don't follow instructions as well as a trained system does. they cost probably 60-90k each. so, my salary doubles or triples, yet the company saves money and is more productive at the same time. what this is capable of is templating out bad code, which is exactly what junior devs do.
but it then has to be rewritten intelligently using a form of evaluation that formal systems are not capable of, see >>52774243

>>52774821
you didn't read these: >>52774243
or, lol, you can't understand them.
>>52774845
lmao didn't even comprehend that exchange, i love it

>>52774867
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>>52774821
can someone make an edit of the chud meme sperging out about AI

>>52774511
>holy shit
>its javascript that makes a div

>>52774922
Dumb faggot. What does the halting problem have to do with AI replacing humans at a specific task? Do you think human devs can determine if the program will halt, you mongoloid?

>>52774926
you can't, but it won't save your job as a "python programmer" if you aren't a computer scientist with a degree from a competent college, and it won't make real software developers respect you if you've tried and failed already. either way, you can be sure we'll still be around.

>>52774967
hahahahah

>>52774975
Keep being smug retard. 2 more years and it's your head on the block instead of those non-ivy league junior python developers.

can't wait to see the smug 3rd worlders pooshits rope

I love how many people are incapable of thinking 10 or more years into the future

>AI CANT REPLACE PROGRAMMERS NOW OMG!111

I HECKIN LOVE DEPOPULATION!!!

>>52774903
Like look at this guy for example he's so sure on the fact that just because he's a better programmer than everyone ITT his job will be 100% secure.
He also thinks that mass job losses and automation in his field meaning fewer jobs and more people going for said jobs will increase his wage. LOL

>>52773772
ok nerd
how do I profit from this?

>>52775390
>client comes in with some retarded request like make his website be an eyesore rainbow in honor of LGBTQNIGGER+ month but do it quick
>poojet says he can do it but $200 for express premium
>you say you'll do it in 5 minutes for $50
>get the offer
>prompt takes 5 seconds to write
>$50 in 5 seconds

>>52775438
what if the pajeet start using this and do it for $5?

>>52775512
You already compete with Pajeet.
You're each given the same new tool to improve your abilities.
You continue to compete with Pajeet.

>>52775512
Pajeets can barely write English which is the primary language it understands.

>>52774850
>read a wiki article on comp sci once

>>52774638
HOLY FUCKING SHIT

>>52773796
I already make insurance claims and payments to a bot over the phone, I don't get why people are so skeptical. Nobody likes talking to pajeet call centers

>>52773772
kek lmao, AI will never be able to fill out spreadsheets and place delivery orders within the supply chain space.

>>52774903
>it can't explain anything it wasn't told how to explain
OH YOU MEAN LITERALLY HOW EVERY HUMAN THINKS AND LEARNS?
DO YOU THINK YOU JUST MAGICALLY FIGURED OUT HOW TO CODE BECAUSE YOU ARE SO SMART AND INTELLIGENT?

>>52775710
lmao that "bot" you talk to is incredibly rudimentary and the only "ai" involved is speech recognition. I have worked on those exact systems in the industry. I love how chudoids seethe and type in caps like theyre screaming when talking about AI

>>52775379
Yeah, what he fails to understand is there will probably be 1000 other people just as good as him, but will do it for a fraction of what he is expecting.

>>52774191
Do programmers, not? I never understood this weird "yeah bro, we're all so unique" when programmers and even creative types get most of their skills from staring at the same shit that the AI can parse in an attosecond.
The main question is, can GPT3 accurately create abstractions and new code, instead of just rewriting content sent to it? Cause then we've got a singularity just waiting to happen.

I can't believe people can mind blown over pattern recognition.

None of it really matters. Courts will rule that using AI code is a breach of license since it literally just copy and pastes from github.

>>52776035
>Courts will rule that using AI code is a breach of license since it literally follows the same process that human coders use, copying and pasting from github and stackoverflow.

>>52776073
Then software will be made in some shithole lol

>>52776181
Software is already made in India.

>>52776216
India's code is pretty advanced though. I guess he meant like Mexico or something.

>>52776225
There is no correlation between the quality and complexity of the software they produce and the amount of human feces they have in the streets.

Mexico has plumbing I'm pretty sure because I've seen Mexicans build bathrooms, you go down to the Home Depot and they're all over the place offering to build bathrooms for you, and they don't even smell like poo like Rashid and Amharadadid always do.

>>52774672
Is this thing sentient or what?
explosion in intelligence when?

>>52774428
Just as G_d intended.

>>52774428
I don't see anything wrong here.

>>52774638
What the fuck did I just read

>>52774413
I fucking laughed out loud, 10/10 thing I've seen today. *clap

>>52774160
So you can replace pajeets. You still need architects. This is what I was saying. Someone has to guide it. It's a tool only a few people are capable of steering for maximum effect. Become that person and you'll be set for life.

>>52774867
Lmao a developer will atleast run his own code retard, running and doing the intended function are two things and only the latter is QA, the AI cant make sure its code is actual runnable, it doesnt even have a concept of code, its just a natural language model, that was my point

>>52775614
Yes there are people that know about the halting problem, youre nothing special retard

>>52774191
>gets data from data sources
>once it has everything it will still rely on google/wiki and places that have less information than it already has
this is why it can replace them

>>52773772
>try ChatGPT
>Login to continue
Nope, I'm out and btw fuck you.

I'm a Mech Eng, that's great and all OP, but do you realize 99% of white collar workers can barely write a number in percentage on excel? you subestimate how fucking retarded is 99% of the population, if anything AI will be so amazing that nobody will be able to use it

>>52774191
>Programmers get their info from secret sethian rituals and not any of the sources mentioned.
If that's your best argument it's unironically over. What happens if someone with deep pockets feeds an AI info from outside those sources?

>>52773772
Its basically going to be auto correct for software development, you're still going to need competent people to get the bulk of the work done.

>>52774821
can you get AI that can figure out how to make money for you lol

can you imagine making an AI that just pays off all your student loan debt and bills.

>>52781921
They already have the AI that criticizes business ideas.

>>52774160
the thing is this is just a decompiled function from ghidra or ida or something and the computer is actually wrong. but imagine it got this shit right, you could pretty much "opensource" anyhthing properietary

the point is it's fucking wrong and that's evidence because its looking at 4 functions that use memory and saying something about the code intent which is just about impossible without sampling the entire program and watching values change in memory

that being said i think there is some value in ais like this for code suggestion but thats about it. we arent looking at this stuff being really good until we solve the data problem

>>52781975
thats pretty cool. all this thread is making me think how AI might serve us. other than the terrifying notion of being replaced. maybe the AI can just manage our lives a little better so we can go fishing or something.

>>52774638
Kek

>>52773772
What are you talking about? You typed too much, I'm not gonna read all of that.
Your pic seems badly made and almost bait-like but it got my attention.
Give me a tldr.

>>52773772
I think that’s one of the biggest lies I’ve realized going into adulthood. The idea that it’s realistic to work a full time job and learn something useful on the side. If you didn’t do very well in grade school, taking it seriously, and continue that to college then you’re basically fucked.

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>>52773839
Cope. We really going through the 8 stages with this?

>>52773772
>ask it something I can find on Google or Wikipedia instantly
>sorry bro, I'm le deep language learning model or whatever, I can't browse the internet, I don't know the answer bro :^)
yeah, really earth-shattering stuff, kid.

>>52774989
>btfo

>>52777645
>Lmao a developer will atleast run his own code retard, running and doing the intended function are two things and only the latter is QA
>the AI cant make sure its code is actual runnable, it doesnt even have a concept of code, its just a natural language model, that was my point
Holy shit you guys are dumb. Natural language model can "ask" the computer to run the program, after which the computer will feed bunch of diagnostic data back into the model.

>>52783011
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>>52774732
This AI has already been polluted. It can never be a true AI

Majoring in CS right now. Have two open book exams next week, and the prof gave us the answers keys of last year’s exams to help us study. ChatGPT is able to answer 80%+ of the questions, easily

>>52784259
how long until u die?

>>52776375
>G_d
cant help but see a funny emoticon