/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>52699016
I've already made it and I'm not even rich

>>52699016
financing the fourth reich

>>52699016
Having a stable income, a family, and a house and throwing parties in penthouses and fucking top tier women

Made it = Set for life without waging.

>>52699016
House in the woods
And enough money to live off forever

>>52699016
off grid and self sufficient

>>52699076
What about sending some money to the third world instead?

I have no idea. I don't know what I want no matter how hard I try thinking about it, wouldn't know what to do with 10mil except helping family. Don't like myself, my life

>>52699016
care about parties. i just want to fuck as many legal age women i can before i die

I want our farm in what's now Zimbabwe back in my family's hands.

>>52699016
owning home and getting passive income to cover all costs of normal living.
i dont need anything else and i can work for a month to get 2 to 6 month trip around the world.
i just want to be care free and do what i want.

>>52699016
"Fuck you" money.

Boss asks you to come in on the weekend? "Fuck you, I quit."

"Sir you can't do that here." "Fuck you, I'll pay the fine."

Girlfriend cheats on you? "Fuck you, pack your shit and move out of my house today. I found another one that looks just like you except she swallows and she's moving into your room at sundown. Here's money for a taxi."

You wrote something mean on Facetwittergramspacester and now you're getting blacklisted? "Fuck you, who cares. I don't need work and I care what you think of me."

Family cuts you out of the will? "Fuck you, as if I even wanted your chump change. Enjoy the shitty hospice I found you."

Manager refuses to refund your bill? "Fuck you, I'm buying this entire business and firing you."

There's a tremendous power in "Fuck you." Whole empires were formed on the basis of "fuck you." The United States of America is basically just an elaborate "fuck you" to the British monarchy.

So yeah, if you can't tell any asshole who comes into your life "fuck you," then you didn't make it.

having all the riches and pleasures of the world seems nice, I will get that some day - but I just want to give my family a better life

>>52699177
My ultimate goal for this property is to create an ultra-exclusive hotel/corporate retreat. An Amangiri-esque resort where celebrities, titans of industry, and the most powerful people in the world congregate. Peak of luxury, security, and seclusion. Emphasis on the last part.

There are similar lodges and resorts in Manicaland but they don't have the same draw or allure. I've mapped out the property based on old maps we have and there's more than enough room for a conference center, hotel, housing for local staff, airstrip, et cetera. It's so far from the beaten path that it's practically impossible to be on the radar here.

>>52699232
Only reply that isn't cucked.

>>52699177
I recognize this poster

>>52699016
For me it's never having to worry about money ever again.

>>52699016

Enjoying a life of peace and quiet out by a beach somewhere.

>>52699232
I wish you the best on your noble pursuit, sir.

>>52699016
Not needing W-2 income.

>>52699016
enough to replace every problem or void in my life with money

>>52699316
Yeah I've posted about this a couple of times.

>>52699232
Don't want to get another booster vax?
Fuck you. Agreed.

>>52699232
Based

>>52699371
sensible. my "making it" is to be financially independent with 0 debt by age 50, but still taking a .gov job for extra income and bennies

>>52699151
This

>>52699294
>isn't cucked
>gives money to girl that cucks you

Being able to live the life you want without ever having to work another day in your life. Simple. The number is different for everyone.

>>52699016
Financial freedom. Passive income at levels that support my desired lifestyle

>>52699156
Why not just burn the money for heat? At least then it's do

I'd like to be able to pursue any fun hobby or passion I want, without caring about having to support myself financially. I could jump from one thing to another, there is endless stuff in the world to keep me occupied.

Probably I'd spend some time doing open source blockchain development work, e.g. contribute to Ethereum. Then go volunteer at a wildlife conservation effort somewhere hot. Then try opening a whisky distillery or a shop selling rare spirits. And of course I'd have plenty of time for partying and chilling.

I have met a few "made it" crypto types who live like this, and it is extremely jealousy inducing.

>>52699498
Doing something useful

>>52699047
Same. I'm a neet and I have food and internet and no financial worry forever by being frugal. What more could I want?

>>52699177
>>52699266
Oh, I should mention that if I do have to be domiciled in Zimbabwe, one of the few benefits of that is that the government does not tax foreign-sourced income. This law was created to benefit those receiving remittances but I can use it to my benefit.

In addition to operating or at least being a major stakeholder in the aforementioned resort, I can continue working as an engineer or operating my own agency remote from my newfound home entirely tax-free.

Having a life you're proud of

>>52699232
Okay but if I had that kind of money I wouldn't be working or caring about a family will to begin with

>>52699499
Tell us about them.

4 beautiful children with a loving wife. And zero stress finances/career. Genetic legacy and financial security are all I care about

>>52699547

There is a hot korean girl I met who jets around 1st class to different crypto conferences, eats Michelin star food constantly, and parties all over the world. Does a load of different sports, has her own business, goes hiking all kinds of exotic places. She made it off some Korean DEX token I think.

enough where i can be a shutin schizo neet for the rest of my life

>>52699141
enjoy getting probed nightly by aliens. fuck that living in the fucking forest man its scary as shit at night

>>52699626
Sounds ultimately unfulfilling and indulgent desu

>>52699780
>scared of nature
Black or Jew?

>>52699805
Its not nature im scared off its the ayys that take you out of your bed when you can't move at night in the forest that frightens me. they say you forget it, but i dont.

starting a business

To me There's no real "making it" since by the time I reach your long term goals I'm already a different person and don't care anymore, for me now it's getting my digree in pharmacy and probably cruising in the desert with a 76 land cruiser

>>52699016
Ability to live comfortably in a nice neighborhood without any you-know-what neighbors, while not having to work my dick off just to afford that home, and having enough free time to enjoy living there instead of having to go to some office all day long

>>52699016
Not being forced to do things I don't want to out of fear of the financial implications

Escaping the hellish shithole known as the USA.

>>52699016
I used to have these grandiose ideas of having an apartment in London, Tokyo, NY, Rome and a villa in tuscany, chalet in austria. I had a good think and worked out you'd need about 20M in assets, 10M in investments and 1M in supplementary income. So 30-40M was the target.

Honestly, now that this seems within reach in the next in as soon as ~5-7 years it sort of doesn't seem nearly as appealing. The idea of just having someone that loves you and going on regular hikes, time to buy good produce, read books and explore new places and ideas with a true soulmate sound 100x nicer than any view or hustle & bustle city.

It's like I've played enough single player mode and now I want to do co-op and it's somewhat depressing that making 30 million seems more achievable than finding the right companion as the money and process of making money seems to just introduce more noise into your life.

Living life on my schedule. Being my own source of income and sustenance. Being able to look myself in the eye in the mirror and genuinely like what's looking back at me. Being well-off enough that a rainy day or a sudden setback isn't a big deal. Having people around me that I can enjoy my life with and trust.

I think im already here, but for so long I've felt the tenacity for achieving more. Good thread OP

>>52699016
Being discreet about my wealth, probably even still working from time to time on a small business that I don't need, but doing it because I like feeling productive. And also just seeing if I can physically lift weights 5 hours a day and not worrying about medical bills if they arise. I couldn't be a lazy rich guy, I just wouldn't want people really knowing.

>>52699933
this

>>52699835
>abducted by aliens (demons)
Black or Jew? All Father protects his children in the woods

>>52699487
this is the gwei anon
passive income is freedom..
making a decent $10k daily from irl investments while staking your favourite web3 token for decent yields. Sylo in my own case.

>>52699047
fpbp
Making it is not about the money.

>>52699933
And moving to Mexico?

>>52699016
moving out of the US and having enough to be comfortable on

>>52699016
something like 2million+ USD net worth in my country

Not a luxurious lifestyle, but you could stop wagie slave for the rest of your life

For me it's:
>never needing to work
>never needing to care about bills
>if I want something, I don't give a shit about waiting for deals or buying something knowing it's a bit overpriced
>if I have a family, being able to provide them with decent lives (without spoiling them too much)
>the ability to relocate immediately and without financial worry once where I live eventually gets demographically enriched

In terms of luxury type stuff:
>banging high class whores whenever I want
>immediately upgrade my car even though I don't need to
>give a big donation to the owner of a site that I use and like a lot

>>52699545
Hence the whole point of "fuck you" money

>>52699232
100% based

>>52699016
not waking up and going to work

>>52699016
I look up to the 19th and early 20th century industrialists. Men who were true pillars of their community, giving employment to hundreds of their neighbours and whose legacy will continue to permeate their cities for centuries. Just walking around their houses (now heritage museums), you can get a real sense of a type of man who no longer exists. Today's rich almost exclusively inhabit cosmopolitan financial hubs, leaving the cities they otherwise might have enriched to slowly decay. I want to revitalize the vanished spirit of those great men.

>>52699016
I just want to get out of my parents house.

>>52699232
Based af. This is it, and this makes ((them)) very very upset.

>lambo

>>52700209
Bear market?
IL?
Crabs?
Staking isn't the smartest source of passive income anon.

>>52699016
Retirement, stupid. It's not complicated

>>52699232
unfathomably based.

i'd like to have a hometown..this whole work from anywhere thing maybe isn't what it seems.. i simply don't know where to go..

>>52699016
For me, making it = my current lifestyle without needing to work. You could add up as you see fit, por example: making it = your current lifestyle without needing to work + a bigger house + a sports car + money to travel the world + money to raise a family + money for whatever you want to add to your current lifestyle.

>>52699512
How do you have food and internet without a job?

>>52703360
Apy is good, IL almost becomes negligible you retard.
Eth and btc lp pairs with their delegated staking option set to roll out soon, it's about to get better.
the crab price action is why you stake

>>52699016
1) Marrying a young beautiful woman that actually pair bonded to me (as opposed to after several partners where men and women both lose a lot of their ability to emotionally connect in the same way). They say you always remember your first love and they’re right. Add to this the usual things like that your wife needs to love and respect me as a person, needs to genuinely find me attractive and want to make me happy, doesn’t cheat, doesn’t divorce rape you and leave you for Chad, etc.

2) Money and a Home — enough money to afford a middle class lifestyle til I die without any worry of “needing” to work a job I hate to survive.

3) Social success — a decent sized friend group where people actually like you and want to spend time with you because they think you’re a cool person. Ideally some portion of people admire you or at least your family does.

4) Kids — building your own family is one of the most rewarding things a person can do. It’s nuts how much top down propaganda there is today especially targeting women trying to convince them that motherhood is horrible and huge hassle and so on. We literally are programmed to find raising our own children gratifying. The real issue is workers don’t have any money these days and don’t even have homes much less financial support for kids.

5) I guess the final piece would be that you achieved something meaningful with your life — survived a world war, built something hugely valuable to your community, I dunno. You need good memories to look back on and think, “Yeah I’m lucky — this was all worth it”, etc.

>>52703503
living with parents

>>52699232
Based

>>52703370
to retire I'd need to have $2million locked up somewhere

>>52703360
doesn't have to be the smartest.
>you see a project
>do due diligence
>like it's long term vision
>you bag some
>you stake, forget about it for as long as possible.
>get rich in the next bull run.

>>52699016
3 tiers
1st tier - having enough so I never need a watch or job or a schedule or a boss or workers again
2nd tier - having my large corporation and corporate building that does something without any input from me while I larp as owner and chairman and live in the penthouse
3rd - stranglehold on a multibillion corporate empire that funds my microstate project were I make a new Monaco tier "dutchy" in Europe

>>52703677
I'll buy a damn good house with Your Place merchant in Dubai with Crypto and settle down. And that's what I call making it!

>>52699016
no need to work for the rest of my life

>>52699232
>There's a tremendous power in "Fuck you." Whole empires were formed on the basis of "fuck you." The United States of America is basically just an elaborate "fuck you" to the British monarchy.
I'll keep that one in stock, thanks king.

>>52699958

Is it really that bad anon?

I am 22 and have enough liquid cash to have a chance at becoming a multi-millionaire in the next bullrun....

Virgin here and never had a relationship or any kind of friendship with a girl my age - i fear that money won't ever fix that in my life


>Do you have advice which you might want to share?

>>52699118
basedest response

>>52704251
how much cash is that, that you believe you have a chance at becoming a multi-millionaire in the next bullrun?

>>52699016
Financial freedom e.g. never waging ever again but still living a middle class life

>>52704251

I will not throw out an exact number - but if chainlink reaches it's ATH again in the next years i will never have to work again...

Plus i will inherit my parents house in the city so "living space" is covered.

>>52700522
What site?

>>52699016
I’m 33 now and more or less broke and alone, other than a little travel, wasted 20’s coding and on the internet. I don’t think any amount of money could fix my life or move the needle in a substantial way. After covid and inflation I hate people and no longer care about impressing them.

>>52699016
Just want enough cash to be able to enjoy my hobbies and not work a shitty demeaning wagie job ever again. Maybe travel a few times a year and fuck some foreign chicks.

>>52699076
this

>>52699232
i bow sir. checked and based

It is sad that for many anons here "making it" is excessive consumption and garish displays of wealth

>>52699016
not being homeless, having enough extra money at the end of the month that I can save up for some fun things, having food. All this while being able to be as lazy as possible.

>>52699016
the moment in nutted in your mom

>>52699016
For me it's about a family, stable finances and a fully paid off house. That's making it. I already have a beautiful wife and a child on the way.
I just need a couple million and a paid of home and I'll be happy. Then I can move on to the next chapter

I want to buy a YUGE property of land in Montana, build a beautiful wood chalet, put up solar panels to be (to a degree) self-sufficient, and hunt/farm for all my food. I'd like to take the time to build a barn and put a fully stocked gym in there, and have a gun vault. I'd like to find a wife who would like to be in nature with me and we could start a family. I just want calm sunrises and the feeling of being surrounded by untouched greenery.

>>52699076
This

>>52704599
Same lol

Is it over?

>>52699016
being able to take risks without losing everything

>>52699016
>he thinks he can make it now

>>52699076
Kek I'm with you

>>52699016
becoming a skilled scalper trading crypto, commodities, forex and stocks.
thats when i made it,
doesnt matter how much money.
what matters is skill
everything else is seccondary

>>52700209
$10k daily must be a scam jeet. I'll rather stick with metastaking UTK on Maiar DEX

>>52699016
I think for most it means some sort of stability and satisfaction

>>52705915
Then you have to run for governor and get your son to be attorney general, while your bitch daughter goes around ruining wealthy land speculators and your other son keeps humping a whiny injun girl.

>>52699016
>Can you define "making it" ?

Living far away of big cities,banging a young blue eyed white girl way out of my league and having lots of children with her.

Playing lots of emulators with my children because modern games suck.

>>52699016
I want to be able to freely use the word nigger without financial consequence

>>52699016
making it for me is never having to leave bed

>>52699016

Why do I keep seeing this Latina here?

Oh btw OP the answer is having time.

>>52700088
I saw Odin once. The allfather stood over me whilst I was dying. I pulled through I think but I'll never forget that.

>>52699127
>Made it = Set for life without waging.
this

>>52706549
Because he is hot as fuck

>>52699168
What country's legal definition are you sticking to?

>>52699016
just not having to wage cuck, that's enough

Being able to afford 10 children and maybe a nanny

>>52707045
my expectations are equally low yet somehow still unachievable
through research ive reached the conclusion that unless youve got 400k cash you cant passively get by without taking undue risk and lets just say that im slowly coming to terms with the unsettling thought that ill never actually save up that kind of money
fuck

>>52699016
making it means not have to answer or submit to anyone.

>>52699266
sounds like a fail business

>>52699016
>good relationships with family
>good relationships with friends
>in decent shape
>make enough money to be able to a) afford basics necessities b) party a little c) save up for the future
>at least somewhat enjoy your job and your coworkers
>doing fun things you enjoy outside of work

bonus points if you have a loving partner

>>52699016
It's making sure your memory will last when you die.
Prepare for the nukes.

t. Uncle Vova

>>52700457
>moving out of the US and having enough to be comfortable on
Dass it, mane. Just accomplishing that is making it.

>>52707103
I moved to Cambodia
yes it's a third world toilet, and I have to learn a fucking ching chong language, but I was suicidal wage cucking in England

>>52699016
For me it's freeing western civilization from the nefarious influence of world jewry in a radical, definitive manner

>>52699016

>>52699076
kanye pls go

>>52707340
I lived in the jungle in Vietnam for 8 years

your'e doing the right thing

>>52703360
This doesn't apply to the onchain staking of UTK that I'm earning 35%APY from

>>52707130
Why

>>52699016
Don't have to be shit rich, if I can accumulate an amount that can be doled out at a rate of like $50-60k a year for the rest of my life I'll call that "making it"

Fancy cars and expensive houses are lots of trouble, I want peace.

1 million dollars after tax in passive income. I don't even need that but just saying you make a million dollars without working is cool. I would need about 25 million if I get 7% from the stock market.

>>52699016
>What does making it mean to you anon?
I'm no longer worry about buying what the jews try to sell me as "success" as I've realize it's all pretty much a trap designed to scam new money riches

Giving my children a better life than I have.

Not working again and just not having to think about having enough money to live. I don't really care about low IQ faggotrich stuff like doing cocaine parties or something

>>52707340
based, do you live in the countryside ? and how much was property

>>52699016
stability, yeah. just need enough to fix the house and make content. technically I can fix the house now, but...

>>52706684
and do what? thats fucking retarded
manhood is fatigue, men worked their whole life since always

>>52699266
so you want to run a stupid airbnb treehouse like every other 30 year old real estate woman? Dont forget to put cheap Walgreens chocolate and $3 trader joes wine as a welcome gift and than charge $500 cleaning fee

>>52699076
This

>>52699016
Not needing to treat my ADHD for the rest of my life because I don't need to worry about being productive anymore.

>>52707973
kek it certainly does, only depends on far ahead into the future you're willing to stick with the project.
utk is elrond based just like ride, interesting project ngl

>>52699076
I loved Life of Pablo great work man

>>52703694
I already did this and I'm left with Zpay, MEX and utk which are all on MultiversX chain

>>52699626
>going to “crypto conferences”
I’d rather kill myself

>>52709382
Bobos sleeping on the chain and missing out on the next big plays.
Vr powered in-car gaming with NFT utility, seems based to me.

>>52709463
you gmi

>>52699016
Only seeing or interacting with another human being if I choose to is my version of making it.

>>52709633
We are all gonna make it with increase the adoption of crypto

>>52699016
Happy family, work I enjoy but can take 6 months or 1 year breaks when I feel like it. Having a beautiful mountain retreat to sit on my back deck reading manga next to an outdoor fireplace and not feel like I'm doing something wrong when I'm doing exactly what I want to be doing at the time. I've bought the lot, am saving money, and positioning my career to do just that. If crypto lets me do that faster great but it's not my main strategy.

>>52699427
But you should, instead of spreading Covid and maybe killing someone with comorbidities.

>>52709633
Some of the best projects with incredible tech are largely undervalued. Crypto is weird.
Most anons are on about making the bag.
Won't be surprised to see it gain huge hype in the next bull market.

>>52710003
wagmi vibes

>>52709515
Kek it's that bad?

>>52710206
In for the money yes but would support the tech if I find it cool and exciting. >>52709633
road trips are about to get more exciting than ever.

>>52710895
Convention for essentially poor gambling.

Enough money so that if it were invested and gave you a 4% yearly dividend you could cover all of your living expenses.

approximately 1.5 million dollars for your average anon

>>52699232
Cool except the girlfriend part because if you rely on money instead of charisma to get women theyll all cheat on you.

>>52699016
Being free and at peace physically, mentally and in our case financially.

>>52708917
work on stuff you want to work on. like art, direct a film or develop a video game or some shit

>>52704465
Cringe

>>52699047
This for me. Being rich is just to secure everything I've gotten so far.

>>52699127
This + having enough to get nursing handjobs from big titted escorts every weekend

>>52699571
>poop eyes and girly girl attitude and looks
she is 100% hiding something from this cuck

>>52699016
what kind of retard screencaps a niggerton mv "model"?

>>52699016
Not having to work anymore and live on a homestead with my wife and kids.

>>52699453
Enjoy your clot shots and early grave.

>>52699016
Don't have to wage
Simple as.
I don't wish to live lavishly, I just want my time back

>>52699016
>Passive income exceeds your spending
>No more waging
>You can afford to live almost anywhere you choose, live elsewhere with the seasons
>Ability to buy things without worrying about cost or price or budgeting
>You can pick up and travel anywhere in the world at any time

>>52701421
I think I'm up the same alley anon. I don't want to be hidden away in some cucked out little condo. I want my name on a lab or theater and the bums outside know I own the building so they start cleaning up their piles of trash when they see me. I also don't want to have to hide or need security.

>>52711096
The point is that you wouldn't stay with a woman you don't like because "it's cheaper to keep her." I know lots of guys who won't dump their idiot women because they share finances or rent and it would just be too much of a headache to break up.

>>52699076
\Ω
this

A Wife, kids, a house, my parents house, financially stable and two side piece.

>>52699232
Relying on money for everything will make you weaker and unable to react properly to situations where money is useless.

>>52699127
This. End thread.

>>52699016
The peace and love of Jesus Christ.

>>52705878
Plot twist, this is op's father and this is actually a very wholesome and poignant post

>>52699016
Happiness
>>52699047
Eventually you realize some things can't be bought

>>52699127
Yep.

>>52699016
>define "making it"
Having enough money so I or my wife never need to work. While living an upper-middle-class standard.
What is the upper middle-class standard?
>Easly afford expensive hobbies (Boats, Cars, Traveling)
>Never worry about running the heat or AC

>>52712251
This is just a long winded formulation of "Money can't buy happiness" and everyone here knows that is pure bullshit.

>>52708159
Quite. I'd add
>having the resources to resist any and all globohomo edicts
Which is just another version of fucku anon above.

>>52699016
For me it's where I can live a double life doing both these things

>>52712909
If you woke up tomorrow to fresh bacon and blueberry pancakes you'd be pretty happy. If you woke up to it the next day you wouldn't be as happy but still rather chuffed. Then the next day and it's still nice. Then for 20 more days and yeh, it's cool the bacon's a bit chewy today but still. Then 50 days later, more bacon and blueberry pancakes. You fixate on the blueberries. "Some fruit would be nice" your mind wonders. Then you wake up the next day, bacon and blueberry pancakes again.
Repeat this for 5 years, a decade.. your entire life.
That initial happiness you felt, simply from having bacon and blueberry pancakes is a long, distant memory.

>>52699016
$50 million networth and 4 wives. or at least one young loyal wife who finds hot 18 year olds for us to sleep with

>>52703667
What about when they die?

>>52699626
>She made it off some Korean DEX token I think.
Yes, DEXG token.

>>52711838
pureblood, homie. actually left .gov for that reason. would be nice to return in 20 years and collect a decent salary and dank bennies for doing essentially nothing

>>52699016
Being able to go about life without needing to speak to/communicate with/work with/be around another human being ever again.

>>52711785
No, he knows about the penis.

>>52699016
Making it is being able to go on my linkedIn and spam the word "Nigger", publically express my hate for faggots and jews, and still be rich enough to never have to worry about any repercussions from kikes that force businesses to not work with me
In the other ways I have already made it this is the last thing.

When nobody can tell me what to do. Everything else irrelevant.

>>52699141
This

Weebing here: Own a luxurious old minka house in suburban Kyoto with a garden and private onsen/bath. Have enough money to not work, pay for superficial girlfriends and mostly be left alone to ponder mi orb and think about esoteric Buddhism. Take my coffee and cigarettes at a kissaten every morning, have a silent platonic relationship with a sushi chef who I see once a week. Walk a lot and get plenty of sleep.

I'm getting there; I work for a global fortune 500 company in Kyoto and have a contribution matching iDeCo (401k) in Japanese government bonds and index funds and will have my permanent residency in 2 years. I have been pretty focused on this since I was 20, and am 32 now. Barring winning the lottery or some asset going lunar... I will probably have to keep working until I am 65. If I could get there at 40 I would be so happy.