/biz/ - Business & Finance

Horses stink so fucking bad, I can't imagine why Johnny would rim one

>>52693806

>>52693815
don't knock it 'til you try it

>>52693817

>>52693828
I hope the next male he rims kicks him in the face with the force of a speeding bullet

>>52693840
chainlayer was the 5th node op. nice

>>52693860
Forget to change IDs ranjesh?

>>52693848
ummm sexist much? are female horses not as capable of kicking me in the face when i'm rimming them????? bigot.

>>52693871
its my thread you fucking faggot, im posting info on Chainlayer

>>52693860

>>52693871
operator, dumbass

>>52693879
>Chainlayer was the 5th node OP, nice :D
Get good at astroturfing your shill threads horse rimmer

i just remember someone in every other linkpool thread for years saying this or that about how theyll just stake with fiews or chainlayer. this is just a glorious moment, obviously the shills have detected that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqFOZhbvRV4

>>52693904
Look mum, they screenshot my comments on /biz/ again!

thread derailers active
link pumping
seething intensifying
pool: closed

chainlayer is ranked #2 for daily node revenue

so to recap, out of the 12 nodes we have confirmed:
linkpool, matrixedlink, orion, linkforest, mycelium, and chainlayer. 6 revealed, 6 to reveal

very nice my sisters

and another one

>>52694015
all of these projects are friends with sergey and are benefitting from KYC nodes

pic related is the current 7 out of 12 node ops

what does that mean for a no-pooler link holder?

>>52693936
based

>>52694562
tfw no lpl

the water's warm.

>>52693806
Yeah I'm thinking based

>>52693806
And to all you fud niggers out there, how does it feel knowing we were right all along? This was the most obvious staking play and all you could do was fud yourself out of buying

>>52693806
Also look what happens when you go to other node consortium's main page linkstake.com....

>>52695238
>>52695286
based

>>52695302
Topkek

>>52695286
A bit too soon to say yet who wins but I know quite a few of the ogs always shunned lpl. Im still cautiously optimistic though.

>>52695286
There are more than two groups of link holders but the main two are those who know, and those who don't.
It takes just a little peek under the hood on how the network operates to understand how staking was going to go.
No front end from chainlink labs. Just a contract to interact with.
Linkpool has built that front-end, and added liquid staking on top of it.
Not only that, a pool of high quality node operators are publicly announcing they are part of this pool.

Pools closed and the private party starts on the 5th at 2:16 pm.

>>52695526
based

>>52695363
Took me some time to swallow the LPL pill but I don't understand how you could not at least get 0.04 OG LPLs after the closeness of CLL and LP was made evident.

>>52695238
WGMI horse bros

linkriver onboard boys, that makes 8!

>>52696886
I got 19k LPL, Will I make it?
Been buying this shit from like $12 since it went on the dex. Used some bullrun profits to buy it. No more funds now sadly. I'd slurp so hard at $1.80.

Knew this was special, despite the loss and crabbing. Simply for the fact they were the first to realise no in built staking mechanism and it was a guarantee to have a spot

yeah this liquid staking is better than imagined
actually seem to have gotten all the top nodes which means no competitor in stealth or large competitor in the short term
it will probably come but the lido comparisons are good and also don't have the same centralisation concerns
see that mycelium was one of the first three nodes live, just that they rebranded last year
https://medium.com/@mycelium-eth/secure-data-links-is-now-mycelium-node-cb4d138099f8
they're also working on this with sergey as an advisor:
https://www.afr.com/companies/financial-services/reputation-dao-capital-raising-lures-prominent-backers-20220411-p5acnf
also in telegram yesterday it looks like there might be a stlink-link curve pool being set up

>>52696886
4 more to go... who will join the alliance?

>>52696922
checked and based

>>52696926
dextrac is almost certainly one of them and is ranked in top 5
https://twitter.com/DexTracNode/status/1596260071847383040

>>52697026
good call i forgot which one had tweeted that. would be rank 5 on my list based on todays link rewards, which makes 6 out of the top 10 rewarded nodes today part of the alliance. still leaves room for 3 more to be revealed in addition to dextrac

>>52697120
so we get dextrac... then imagine we get fiews, inotel and P2P.... and secure the top 9 rewarded nodes by todays count. that would be epic.

>>52697157
yeah get one or two of them and it would be big
the only thing i'd say is that some of the nodes might say... well hey we can just fill the 50k allotment ourselves... it's not that much
i assume that nodes will pay a cut to lpl holders for using the staking infrastructure (obviously linkpool team get 75% of this)

10 nodes would be 500k of the initial 2.5 million LINK allocation for node operators.
75 million LPL is staked approximately.
This would give an initial 6.666 LINK staking per 1000 LPL with a limit of 33.333 LINK per 1000 LPL if all the node switch to this liquid staking system.

The real question is when are they planning to increase the node operator staking pool size and to what size.
They implied in the article that this pool size would increase to reach a similar size as the community pool.
So the upside in the initial staking would be 25-50 million LINK staked by node operators in the v0.1-v0.2 and even nodes not using this staking service initially would later have to join to gather enough tokens for staking.

25 million LINK staked for node operators for 75 million LPL would give a max initial limit of 0.333 LINK/LPL.
This would be close to the initial expectation of 10k LINK for 1 LP with a more mature staking.

I don't know the specifics of the contract, but if it takes 10% of the earned interest as income for Linkpool following the Aave rates for lending, this could give an additional 100k LINK of profits to Linkpool which is a nice bonus to the possibility for LPL holders to stake their LINK token.
What's really valuable for this liquid staking are not the short term returns in the beta phase, but the possible returns with a mature market and staking v1.0.

The day the LINK network reaches more than a trillion market cap with 50-100 billions of yearly income, Linkpool could earn 10% of the profits earned by LINK stakers using their platform to provide liquidity.
The model would limit this to 1/3 of the global node income as a limit.
Let's imagine 10 billion goes to borrowing the LINK token for staking and Linkpool provides 10% of the total supply for this service.
This would generate 1 billion of income for Linkpool a year and allow a market cap of 10-20 billions for LPL.
This is however a very long term speculation which could take 1 or 2 decades.

>>52697311
it's confirmed that it's 12 nodes
good post

>>52697311
Please, i can only get so hard

>>52697311
>So the upside in the initial staking would be 25-50 million LINK staked by node operators in the v0.1-v0.2 and even nodes not using this staking service initially would later have to join to gather enough tokens for staking.
this is important. initially a node may be able to fill the 50k allotment but likely won't be able to fill 250k or whatever
their other option would be reach private deals with whales but this wouldn't be trustless
as we've tried to everyone for a long time:
chainlink staking allows retail and nodes to stake directly
linkpool allows retail to stake with nodes

OMG this community is filled with gross incels!

>>52694015
too bad they stopped their indexing node on Graph, I really loved them

Blah blah fucking blah.

Can't sell any of my LPL stack when price appreciates.

I know blah blah not selling.

But in the real world people take profits when an investment raises in price.

Linkpool have a duty to create liquidity for there token.

>>52701401
this

all pretty much cope since we could've sold at $15 instead of now not even being able to sell at $1.98 lmao

>>52701401
just use airswap
still the best solution is an order book dex
they're all dead now though

>>52697311
Great post. I got 200 LPL and 4k LINK. Im excited.

>>52693936
Hey that's me
I have my full LPL share and guess what, there's no other pie. I wasn't shilling against LPL there, I was subtly alluding to the lack of other pies.
Anybody who thought they would be lined up to stake with some other company, without some kind of money they've put towards it, was and still is retarded.

was just thinking about what jonny was saying that linkpool staking is bigger than he's seen bigger speculate on
in attached picture he talks about "self-service" where staking can be used to create dons, ie going outside the current situation where chainlink curates the dons
wonder if this is the next step after the node allotments from v0.1
not quite sure how they would go about that, as you would still need overview and management of the dons but the big advantage of staking is that it adds an important security layer outside of kyc

>>52697026
DexTrac does not support liquid staking.

>>52703252
are you on their team?

>>52703252
Why not?

>>52693860
So they announce AGAIN they are using link. What a fucking joke chainlink is.

another announced: 01node

>>52705690
01node is a solid performer, ranked #10 on daily rewards. pic related is current alliance, 3 more to be announced, presumably today

another one, never heard of it

two more to go! seems like dextrac will be one, and i think fiews will be the other

>>52703068
>roll out in phases
its really gonna be v0.2, v0.3, v0.4 etc
its gonna be a rough next 7 years

>>52707494
Anotha one

>>52709298
based i missed that one. so pic related is the current alliance 11/12, with probably Dextrac being the 12th

I am a left-side-of-the-intelligence-bell-curve LINK investor. Been stacking LINK slowly for awhile. Is LPL a good buy too?

Do Linkpool stakers also get Build token Airdrops?

>>52711427
Yes. In some theory better than link itself. If you have the money get some. Though it's very low liquidity because no one wants to sell. Don't let the low price fool you

>>52702165
You can only stake 1 link per 2.2 lpl so you need to get 8800 lpl to stake your entire stack.

>>52711493
Where does it say this

>>52711466
No one to sell because it has low liquidity, because u can’t sell. LMAO

>>52712282
Johnny forced us to be bag holders to make all make it. Kicking and screaming. That's pretty based of the pig fucker

>>52712297
Jonathan has no incentive to sell LPL or provide LPL liquidity. If he sells LPL he loses LINK revenue and if he decides to sell he can do it OTC.

>>52712355
It was a joke. Most LPLers have autism (which isn't a bad thing) I went hard on this instead of link. I'm not an ICO buyer but have managed to get 19k LPL. Buying from 12 down. Never once did I consider selling, just staked it always. Plus I saw it as a way to secure gains.

The description about no inbuilt mechanism for staking really clicked with me and I saw more value/exposure with LPL than Link as it basically guarantees top tier node staking. I have no regrets.

>>52708359
13 years for a project to get out of beta. If you told holders from 2017 they would have never believed it

Never seen soo many anons optimistic about receiving 100 LINK a year for a 15k LPL staked stack

Joke.

>>52712509
yeah its a joke
remember all the optimism from 2019/2020, that all seems a distant memory of a long forgotten time now
it was never supposed to be like this

>>52712730
the whole space really
who would have believed that for eth that pos would be implemented in 2022 and scaling would be so slow

>>52712730
>>52712820
2025 was always the year we make it and 2030 the year we become global elites. Always was, always will be

>>52712264
I don't know where it was, I think some Linkpool post on medium. Can confirm though, 400 LINK per 1000 LPL (before the migration it was 0.4 LP = 400 LINK)

>>52712931
The amount of LINK you will be able to stake will be determined either by the amount of LPL Allowance Tokens you stake in our staking contracts or by the amount of linkLPLA you borrow from the allowance lending contract. According to the initial estimates we made when we wrote this article, and taking into account the new token supply, we estimate that 1 LPL will eventually allow you to stake up to 0.4 LINK.

NOTE: This amount is simply an estimate. The real world amount will depend entirely on the demand for collateral on our nodes, and will be determined by economic demands.
https://linkpool.io/faq/
>>52712890
yeah agreed, we're just benefitting from early speculative waves at this point, about time we got another one though

>>52712931
I remember what anon below you said. 0.4 link per lpl was the estimate. But I imagine in the short term that 50m allocation or whatever being spread over 100m lpl tokens so something more like 0.02 link or something.

Either way I stake my entire stack and lend the rest out or stake everything and hold link. I really just am tired of waiting because I want to live my life somewhat and this is some genuinely fucking good news

Bump to make the hives of fudding jeets in the 5 other LINK threads seethe

>>52712970
Shill me more on this "allowance lending contract" and process please.

I have way more LPL than LINK so what apr on lending my LPLa?

>>52714728
no info out but i think we'll get it on the 5th
i might do this as staking with lpl will be a taxable event, but interesting to see how they design it

Will my real life begin in 3 days boys?

>>52714728
You lend your LPLA to another staker. How they can't rub off with it I dunno.

Anyway, obviously LPL staked with Linknhad more value than just LPL staked. So you can lend your LPLA to allow another person to stake with premium nodes who otherwise wouldn't have access to it. They get a cut, you get a cut and LPL gets a cut but it's more than if you just didn't fully allocate all LINK that could be

>>52713154
50 Lpl per link is atrocious. This can’t be right. I’d only be able to stack 160 link with my stack of 8k lpl if what you are saying is true…

>>52716342
It's for initial staking. There's what 25mm or 75mm? So stake.link won't have all of that access even though they will have access. That tiny amount over 100mm LPL tokens. All it does is guarantee retail a spot at staking and earn some revenue of the node

>>52715998
2 days

Ok so I got a stack of linkpool, staked it. I can stake a full 7k with chainlink official staking then will I also have another option on linkpool to deposit my link? Totally out of the loop just bought this shit in 2018 and been lazy

>>52716900
Yes

It's all now a waiting game. Pool's closed.

>>52716985
Based horserimmer

>>52716342
You don't need LPL to stake in stake.link, you can use others' unused staking allowance for that but you risk being left out of the pool if it reaches max capacity

bros another big one joined the alliance. 12 announced. interestingly thats 12 without dextrac

>>52717544
secured 3 out of the top 5 earning nodes, 7 out of the top 10. EPIC

>>52717580
It's over.jpg

>>52717410
I certainly will use up my own allowance easily.

>>52717724
Smart move if you bought early, now the smartest move is being quick getting in and paying a fee to LPL stakers

>>52712616
Those 100 LINK came from the 650 million that aren't yet released to the public.
In a way, it protects you from inflation by giving you the inflated supply directly. It's nice and the LINK we get has never been available to the market.

>we often say the past four to five years that we've been building has been leading up to, you know, the amount of growth and scale we're gonna see over the next two years and beyond

>>52712890
no this is false

>>52717544
Oh fuck yeah I was hoping they'd join. Consistently the top node op

>>52712509
It's fucking frustrating. I have moved to a project that builds actively in the space. The Data Tunnel product is a must to watch out for all.