/biz/ - Business & Finance

Should I short the Chinese hopium rally?

>this clown market

>>52678463
they changed the bump limit to 293? I never knew that

waiting for jp

Buy YANG - 24-72 hour swing
Currently trading at $13.94
China has had insane gap up rallies 3 days in a row
Fade the rally
Look at the charts of components / index:
>FXI
>BABA
>JD
>NTES
>BIDU
>PDD
>NIO
>XPEV
>LI
>YUMC
>BILI
Fade the rip

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
2 FUCKING HOURS

>>52678477
a bloo boo blooo shut the fuck up, bitch

>>52678497
n*gger

>>52678486
I wonder what he's doing now?

Looks like the talk is again a private session only for the priesthood of new liberal fascism

>>52678501
Lael Brainturd lamo

wow, every post that was hidden would warrant a 3 day ban

>>52678494

Stagflation Market Engaged - Get ready for 0% gains for the next 8 years

Today is the first day of the rest of India's CBDC
Good morning.

>>52678464

Anon you are fucked.. I guarantee she is on 4chan in the other room looking up what you do all day

>BBC thread
>tranny thread
>young looking animal girls with dicks

It's over.

Is he going to say words that make the line go up?

>>52678510
So help me Lord, I would.

>>52678502
No you fucking boomer retard faggot, it's a web link. The event itself is full, you can register to watch.

what a fucking failure person you must be irl.

>>52678515
do you have to manually filter them? I can only get some

>>52678521
Unless you hold PBR. Then its 50% gains annually.
Your choice whether to re-invest and compound, or spend those gains.

>>52678524
i don't go on threads about trannies or young looking girls, asshole

>>52678527
should be hawkish BUT
if you think something is sure the do the opposite...

>>52678527
Yes, "won't say the words to make line go down" is more accurate.

>>52678524
>young looking animal girls with dicks
Surely none of us is way that degenerate here though,right?

>>52678521
Anon TIPS have 6%+ annual yield. literally impossible not to make money

>>52678530
its quick. One liners, meme images, auto filter - anything such a user writes is worthless and could have been written by a bot

>>52678549
you wrote a one liner post.
you're not very smart are you

>good news is bad news is good news is bad news is good is good news is bad news is bad news is good new is bad news is good news is bad news

>>52678567
Mad Hatter's tea party, Calvin Ball, etc.

>>52678567
So do i buy now?

>>52678510

you just know she was a freak 20 years ago

>>52678567
took you all long enough to figure it out...

>>52678567
Anon it's simple. UP ONLY. Good news is good news and bad news is good news.

>>52678567
I think you got that backwards

>>52678532
Picked up 600 shares recently
Seemed cheap enough

AAAAAAAA
NEWS JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

>>52678490
1/20/2023 $13 Calls on YANG

I hate the chinks so much it's unreal. I'm with you anon. Gonna ease into this position but the retard rally in chink shit should revert soon

>>52678527
everyone is expecting doom so he is going to spark the santa claus rally today. CPI pump, FOMC pump, January apocalypse

I just accidentally spent 400 on 422 spy calls expiring dec. 5th. They immediately went down to half because no one is buying any, asking was 0.01 and buying was 0.00... did i just burn a few hundred dollars? Dont ask how i pulled that off im retarded

>every single commodity green
>natty gas down 5%

>>52678604
Maybe worth noting that PBR-A is an extra 10% gains as well, since you can buy it cheaper for the same divvies.

>>52678622
He's making a list, checking it twice...

Did they really just front run the dip before JP speaks when SPY was at 393? Son of a bitch.

Powell is a faggot

>>52678642
Might just be a coincidence though

YANG GANG WHAT HAPPENED?

>>52678653
what the fuck, I didn't even know cracker barrel was even publicly traded. fucking dogshit restaurant.

i wish my algo was real life
my actual portfolio is such a trainwreck
i should make it rotate to bonds or something instead of cash but meh

>>52678653
>BBW gaping up bigly
Santa rally is ON HARD

>>52678668
It's purdy gud iya aks me

>>52678637
i couldn't stay mad at him even if he obliterates my account today

i really hope JPow surprise pivots finally today just so i can read the bear cope in these threads. im sick of those smug bobo shits. they need to be taught a lesson. and they will. and it will be GLORIOUS.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER

>>52678463
when does powell speak?

>>52678622
>wants inflation to reduce and wages to go down
>will start a retard rally

Why are bulls like this?
>line go up always durrrr after line go up line go up more durrrr
>you can't time the market don't even try just buy durrrr

>BBW is +2000% since the COVID Low
Can't make this shit up.

>>52678686
How could you? Look at this face.

>>52678699
I like this, yagmi

Any reasons not to short BABA? Last time I saw a chart this obvious looking AMZN went up 10% in one trading say after being down almost two weeks straight.

>>52678699
>Build a Bull Workshop

>>52678696
2 hours
https://www.brookings.edu/events/federal-reserve-chair-jerome-powell-the-economic-outlook-and-the-labor-market/

>>52678699
>BBW
>Is actually stuffed animals
I have been misled.

>>52678688
you redditors are going to lose everything

>>52678725
infinite loss for being wrong in the relative short term
something something stay retarded longer than you can stay solvent

>>52678737
>requires registration
>full name
>organization
>job title
>location

>>52678688
> im sick of those smug bobo shits
Bobos are benevolent beings that only want to warn fellow anons of impending financial turmoil. Look beyond the smug demeanor and you'll see a bear that only wants to protect your life savings from the grip of diabolical market participants. Mumus on the other hand are psychopaths that want the Fed to unleash parabolic inflation so that their meme company stocks go up. Bobos are the good guys.

>>52678737

>>52678741
>redditor

uh, sorry pal but i voted red down the ticket. never bet against America.

>>52678749

>David Cohen
>blackcreek mutual trust
>funds manager
>new york

>That's right, cocksucker, go back to the wage cage!
>Giant crab, what are you doing?
>Take your piece of shit portfolio and get off my market.
>But we just talked about this.
>Well, crabbier heads prevailed!

>>52678768
me except I voted dem :)

>>52678755
get fucked bobo, this economy is fine. the people who are losing their jobs are the ones who were deemed non-essential during the covid time line and they should have seen the writing on the fucking wall instead of spending a shit load of money they didn't have. corporations are trimming the dead wood and coming back leaner and meaner. also fuck niggers.

>>52678697
>bull
watch your language m8

>>52678749
>requires registration
>full name
J Pow
>organization
Fed
>job title
Chair
>location
DC

>>52678768
how did it feel to get absolutely rekt?
t. fellow massachusetts victim

>>52678725
>AMZN
I'm expecting it to pop soon. It might be at its 100MMA or its COVID Low

>>52678738
Sorry, Pierce. Maybe try shorting PLNT?

who's hoarding all the geforce 4090, btw?
what's the holdup?

>>52678783
Aren't you buying TLT? You realize that TLT will outperform next year because of the recession we're heading into right? QE is not coming back until the economy crashes.

>>52678463
Finance and economics are pseudoscientific make believe gqrbage and capitalism is inherently unstable, exploitative and unsustainable with a built in expiration date. Ever escalating recessions, poverty, debt, wealth inequality, monopolies, disease, pollution, exploitation, slavery, conflict and wars are fundamental, necessary and intended principles of it, NOT glitches. Greed, selfishness, lying, cheating, stealing, competition, conflict, slavery and war are behaviors highly encouraged and incentivized under capitalism. It is LITERALLY cancer and i dont mean it metaphorically, i mean it literally, it shares the exact same functions and principles as a cancer cell.

You know how all of you parasites always say "HuRr durr gommunism maybe good in theory but always 'fails'"? Well capitalism doesnt even work in theory and unfortunately for financier parasites like you, we live in a mathematical universe and if something cant be expressed in a theoretical/mathematical way it WILL not appear or be maintained in the physical world.

The freer the market the more enslaved everything and everyone else is and the more blood sacrifices need to be performed to "the Line god". An economy needs to be as regulated and planned as possible to serve the living beings needs and desires and be able to be adjusted according to our needs at any given moment/period.

4chan parasites, financiers, rightoids and nazis like you will seethe and cope and scapegoat "the lazy subhuman useless eaters" or whoever but these are the facts and the longer you deny them and bury your heads in the sand the more you will continue leading lonely, sad, hateful and painful lives into even more miserable and pointless deaths as the proud, obedient, compliant, insecure and submissive bootlicking proud modern day slaves that you so desperately want be

>>52678738
>>52678811
Wasn't there a clothing retailer that caters to fat women recently IPO?

>>52678768
nice i think i saw that ballot in a postal workers bag thrown into the side of a ditch.

>>52678798
Yeah im almost positive they threw the third quarter earnings to pop in the fourth.

>>52678834
stale pasta

>>52678840
Torrid (ticker: CURV) might be what you're thinking of. Looks like they IPO'd in July of last year.

>>52678811
It's OK; I'll keep buying MCD and KO.

>>52678840
Yes, Torrid CURV. Chart looks like shit, but may have (4xl) bottomed.

>>52678831
I'm buying TLT because TLT is going to be better than what ever soft landing bull shit we get forced into from the boys over at the f.e.d.

>>52678834
Hurt durr stonkies only go up.

>Finance and economics are pseudoscientific make believe gqrbage and capitalism is inherently unstable, exploitative and unsustainable with a built in expiration date. Ever escalating recessions, poverty, debt, wealth inequality, monopolies, disease, pollution, exploitation, slavery, conflict and wars are fundamental, necessary and intended principles of it, NOT glitches. Greed, selfishness, lying, cheating, stealing, competition, conflict, slavery and war are behaviors highly encouraged and incentivized under capitalism. It is LITERALLY cancer and i dont mean it metaphorically, i mean it literally, it shares the exact same functions and principles as a cancer cell...
-Ackkk

>>52678749
https://youtu.be/yYUIt6FtIB4

>>52678831
>>52678888
and im not buying tlt i'm buying TMF because 3 times leverage is better than 1 times leverage.

>>52678834
Jerome splashes water on his face in a seedy hotel bathroom and straightens his tie in the mirror, his right eye twitches a few times. He gives himself a shake and steps out of the bathroom. The scene is grim, needles and bongs litter the sleazy hotel room not to mention all the condoms and semen everywhere interspersed with the most rancid whores imaginable, the kind 2scoops would hire. All the Fed presidents, women included, just ran the biggest drug fueled train on the market imaginable. The market is whimpering in the corner about shrinkflation while jizz leaks out of every hole. Once the condoms ran out everyone just fucked the market raw, he smirks as he remembers the market begging them not to. Several of the other junkie prostitutes are passed out about the room and he has to step over them on his way out. It won't be long before they start to wake up and find the pile of dead chinese ones with Evergrande branded on their asses in the bathroom tub. Jerome walks over to the market and bends down and whispers, "Come back when you need more QE, bitch." and spits in her face. Smiling as he walks out he remembers he needs to return some video tapes. He heads down to the hotel office to pay them 9 billion dollars for the hotel stay on his fake CC under Hunter Biden's name. "What about black unemployment?" he says out loud on his way down, mimicking Janet Yellen's raspy old woman voice and laughs to himself.

>>52678834
>>52678897

My son's stocks are taking another hit, it's been a rough week. I had messaged him Sat saying that if we had control over his accounts (other than making the picks and the semi annual sell one and buy another) we would be selling everything at opening bell while it was all mostly at ATH, and move everything into bonds for a bit.

>>52678900
>unironically linking to a second hand stream
>unironically it being cnbc
fuck off new liberal fascist

>>52678843
>Amazon Announces Biggest Holiday Shopping Weekend Ever
>"This was a record-breaking holiday shopping weekend for Amazon. Customers shopped millions of deals this weekend and we have many more amazing deals to come," said Doug Herrington, CEO, WW Amazon Stores.
There is still going to be more shopping for Christmas. The only windfall could be analysts revising their earnings estimates

>>52678790
the election was stolen (again) but yeah it's a blue state what can ya do. i've been pretty staunchly in the "you can't complain if you don't vote" but i've gotta admit i've been pretty demoralized since the 2020 election, and now they even squashed the red wave with their fucking mail in ballot kikery. idk. i did my part, but idk anymore.

i had covid and coughed all over the voting place at least. best i can offer the current situation.

>>52678921
Now this is pasta that doesn't get stale.

SELL SELL SELL REDDIT SELL

>>52678834
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_MXSE3wUT4
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEwVdu_vhLc

Educate yourself.

>>52678945
Post your link then. The only other one posted required kyc tier info.

> hyper crab

Bobros....

>>52678989
>Peterson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbZZyVyEHGo

how do I profit from kanye west exposing all these right wing internet guys as tiny hat simps

from last thread: someone what to explain why this current market is so similar to dot-com bubble? --and then explain why it won't play out the same from here on out??
--note, corporate profits seem to be ready to drop after this current 3 years extreme bump: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=X0Th
....this is usually followed by a recession. Any wise anons out there want to comment on this?

VIX……………….

>>52679029
Is this it?

>>52678653
Oops... I do business with some of those companies

Why is YANG dumping so hard, it's bullshit, it didn't pump on yesterday's dump at all either.
>>52678475
based townsends enjoyer

>>52679053
Me too. Had a Country Boy Breakfast last week....

>>52679000
>>52678737
now go back to wherever cnbc watchers usually dwell, I assum reddit or another new liberal fascist platform

>>52679010
crab before speech is more bearish than red before speech.

>>52678950
>i had covid and coughed all over the voting place at least. best i can offer the current situation.
you only hurt your fellow republicans, the commies all voted early and by mail like 5 times before election day

>>52678148
>https://am.jpmorgan.com/JPMorgan/TADF/46641Q332/P?site=JPMorgan
Read the summary prospectus. They buy ETN/ELNs with 20% of the fund, the holdings listed spx_n, which are comprised of strip-bonds & covered calls. Then they sell the calls inside ETN for premium.

>Inb4 counterparty for call buyers
Tell me who buys the calls XYLD, QYLD sell?

Maximum rugging would be the ETNs counterparty can't pay the note maturity, which puts 20% of the portfolio 0, but leaves the 80% stock equity untouched. There is your risk.

>>52679016
>Be noted academic who reads and talks about Solzhenitsyn
>Willingly ignore the fact that Solzhenitsyn blames the Qui
>Get called out in front of thousands (public and online)
>Have mental breakdown, go to Russia, fry your brain on benzos, let your daughter get sneeded by Andrew Tate
Never follow any publicly-propped up "thinker"

>GUSH
OH N-

>>52679024
Shut the fuck up, you know the answer, quit your confirmation bais

>>52679016
>it's so difficult to disentangle
>first of all, i haven't read this book
>but i do want to read the book, so thank you for giving me the book

idk sounds reasonable to me. also probably smart not to touch that sort of stuff in general considering what the MSM would obviously do with it. if there's some video of someone revisiting this at a later date after he has read it i'd be interested in seeing that, but this video you posted seems completely reasonable. he literally hasn't read the book, so how can he comment on it?

>>52679089
They should have sold last week.

Buddy look at the VIX

>>52678549
Dang, guess i'm filtered for sure, I mainly post one liners and contribute to the thread with memes cause I'm still learning and usually don't have anything insightful enough to warrant anything other than a quick comment or question

>Oil equities vastly outperforming oil price
hur dur, oil price must be going up

>>52679089
CRAK's holding up but XOP, XLE, OIH all have Maisie Williams-looking charts.

>>52679024
use log scale
this time it's different
we are already in a recession, it started in January but no one wants to admit to it because then there's blame to be assigned
oh and as a side note, inflation isn't because of the supply chain, if you see someone saying that then immediately discount everything they say because they are selling you something
particularly if the above advice or theory is free
also fuck you nigger
also also like the other anon said, confirmation bias

>>52679112
VIX computer is overbought, nothing ever happens in December. Hanukah is soon after all.

>>52679066
Unfortunately, that's the one company in that chart that I want to but can't do business with... There aren't any in my state

>>52679061
yang moves based on the chink market, dimwit

>>52679134
delayed shemitah dump

>>52679115
I hate it to be meta, but for the sake of it. Ask questions, if they are not lmgtfy you might get an answer. But if you are new, dont engage with shitpost bots "talking" about their day or other off topic bullshit and dont just post "4chan" memes because a bunch of bots have spammed them for 10 years

DRIP being up despite oil mooning... even the oil jews are dumping shares before JPOW heems this retard rally

>>52679107
>probably smart not to touch that sort of stuff in general considering what the MSM would obviously do with it.
This is some unreal cope.

any mathematicians care to explain this

>>52679169
specifically how the risk free interest rate affects the vix

>>52679024
the markets are way more efficient now than they were in 1999 and profits have nothing to do with stock prices. back in 1999 they had to physically mint coins and physically move them from one safe deposit box to the other for the quantitative easing, this process is now replaced with just a few key strokes at light speed. recession will be over in a few months and the time to be buying is now, the place to be buying is here.

>>52679024
>muh dot-com bubble
>at the beginning of digital age of the 21st century
>literally everything in tech was "growth"
tell me you're a zoomer who doesn't know how the 20th century was without telling me you're a faggit who missed out on the best time

>>52679119
Oil was trading around $70 a year ago.
Oil companies were priced to earn ~20% cashflows if that level was maintained.
Oil spend most of the year closer to $100.
Oil is back down, but still at $80.

When will people learn that oil equities earn money continuously as long as the price stays above their breakeven? When will people learn that oil companies do not need a perpetually rising oil price in order to profit?
Oil stocks today are as cheap as they were last year. Last years investors got paid. This year's investors will likely also get paid.
There's a paradox where as long as the broad market remains convinced that oil stocks are uninvestable (due to ESG or w/e other bullshit), these companies will continue to buyback stock and compound because that's the most profitable action they can take. Stocks stay cheap, capital returns remain high, production never grows. The most bearish thing that could happen for oil stocks is that the share prices suddenly pump massively. That's when you'll know the cycle is done.

>>52679169
Try /sci/

>>52679029
IIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSS...................................................

>>52679184
Lower R, smaller e factor. Smaller e factor, smaller sigma squared (the circle on the left of the equation). Smaller sigma, lower VIX.

..y waY MUMU FUCking sh...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>One more hour of faggotry before the real faggotry begins

To the shroom growing puts Anon that I have been learning from, last night I did 4 paper trade 1/20/23 puts and I could sell 3 of them right now for around $80 in total gains. I've been constantly studying trying my best to lrn2. Very much appreciated to all of (You), I screencap everything I see that seems useful towards my studies.

>futures

AAAHHHHHHH

>>52679169
What specifically do you not understand?

>>52679208
>When will people learn that oil companies do not need a perpetually rising oil price in order to profit?
Except with inflation they sort of do. 10, 15, 20% cost increases up and down the supply chain mean that $80 is the new $70. I agree that energy's still a good long term bet though.

>14% day on Monday
>took some profits
>all in bear again today
>about to have another 10%

mumu?

>market dumps as people sell before a press conference

im just waiting for spy 370.

>>52679247
They are already up to +$100 just since that post.

Bros when do we buy back into Zim? I can't believe it's about to fall under $20 when they have $30 in cash

>millennials and Gen x making fun of zoomers
>meanwhile they’re completely emotionally unattached sociopathic robots running a giant tiktok/YouTube ponzi scheme together stealing investors and companies money
Zoomers seem based to me

>>52679267
You just wait until the bots start parsing his language and movements.

>>52679083
picrelated.
Can you answer me from the highlighted text alone the potential risks which occur when the "written call options" (synthetic, as the might well be or even real) go ITM who's taking the losses (buy them back at higher prices or have them exercised on your ass)?
From the prospectus it sounds as they are only earning money from this.
These are genuine questions that I have which remain wholly unanswered yet.
And how they're able to dosh out these fat dividends from their supposed ETN/ELN plays with only investing 20% of their fund into it is still a mystery.
They seemingly figured out something the others haven't. Which is highly suspicious.

>Tell me who buys the calls XYLD, QYLD sell?
At least they are genuine exchange traded CBOE S&P 500 cash settled call options and not some synthetic mystery brew as in JEPI.
So the answer would be other market participants in the exchange traded CBOE S&P 500 cash settled call options sphere which are at least "real" as the options have a bid and ask most of the day.

>Maximum rugging would be the ETNs counterparty can't pay the note maturity, which puts 20% of the portfolio 0, but leaves the 80% stock equity untouched. There is your risk.
So last month or so, they (JEPI) received the options premium, get to keep it, and the ETN counterparty covered all the occurring losses as the 2% out of the money options were running ITM heavily? So basically free money?

Buddy look at the VIX

>>52679282
NICE PIC LOSER

LMAO

>>52679270
FUCK OFF YOU SICK PERVERT

>>52679282
>picrelated

>>52679262
>Except with inflation they sort of do.
This is true. I've simplified to ignore inflation because at the moment energy is the leading cause of inflation.
A big issue previously is that all these companies were debt trapped, churning out higher and higher production but watching prices fall as they struggled to fight an endless pit of debt.
Nowadays, oil, coal, gas companies are largely sitting on net cash positions.

Whats the next Theranos or Nikola Motors? Thanks

Give me vix 40 already you faggot ass market

>>52679282
[addendum]
>So last month or so, they (JEPI) received the options premium, get to keep it, and the ETN counterparty covered all the occurring losses as the 2% out of the money options were running ITM heavily? So basically free money?
Also how's JEPIs counterparty is making money from this trade?

>>52679206
>>52679200
>>52679128
>>52679103
bizarrely harsh crowd today, to bad you angry fuckers couldn't actually bring anything new to the table. My guess is that over this last year you're down. I'm actually 39yo t.boomer faggot. In 1999 they WERE using keystrokes to move money, same as in 1980's. This time is different..sure, in some ways. From the chart "confirmation bias"
>>52679024
(undeniably following same ramp up to start of decline, as multiplied by X number), the decline this time is much faster, hence likely recovery to be much faster. BUT, J.Powel has said he wants unemployment higher, inflation down, and wages down. America can't grow and stay competitive based on financial numbers growth: we need real productivity to have a desirable future 5 years, 10yrs, 30yrs from now, and I think he's going for that. I'd put the trough of stock market recession sometime between 2 months from now and end of first quarter 2024.

>>52679321
There will never be a next fraud queen.

>>52678535
What are you, gay?

Economy destroyer Jewrome Powell speaks today anyone of you disgusting mutts got a livestream link?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MOMMY POWELL IS FUCKING ME

>>52679321
BYND

Let’s check in on the HUI

>>52678950
I feel ya. I won't vote ever again after 2020. They will just steal every important election until they're caught.

>>52679225
creative

>>52679267
That means we’re pumping

>>52679332
You forgot 9/11. You're an asshole, also this environment is completely different than it was in 1999, this market is fueled on 2 things, greed and inflation. so powell is going to kill the inflation, but how does he kill the kikes greed? checkmate boomer faggot.

>>52679278
Psychologically they are fucked, Millenial iPad parenting is outright abuse

>>52679358
not exactly at an ATH right now

>>52679157
Alright I'll try
>>52679208
Oil and oil stocks seem so manipulated I'm afraid to get into it. Just because you figure out the game the manipulators are playing doesn't mean they won't suddenly change the rules to fuck up people who aren't in the know.

IS THIS THE DIP BEFORE JP SPEAKS?!?!!

>>52679270
The problem with buying that $30 in cash with ZIM is that you're paying 25% withholdings to the jews (of Israel) on every dividend they pay out to you.
So you're really looking at 30 x 0.75 = $22.50 that you'll eventually extract, not $30.
They're not gonna liquidate or sell the company, and they don't seem interested in doing massive buybacks. The only return of capital will be dividends.

...and then there's the risk that they don't fully distribute that wealth. Why would they siphon all their money when they're about to enter a multi-year period of losses? Management wants the company to continue to exist, so they can continue to take their own paychecks.
I wouldn't buy ZIM for more than $15 right now.

>>52679332
You're almost 40 and you need people to fucking spoonfeed you shit? God damn you're hopeless

>>52679347
The meeting of the Fed presidents is underway and Jerome shifts uncomfortably trying not to let any emotion show as Lael is droning on about Modern Monetary Theory and how they need to print more. It's made exponentially more diffcult since he's naked from the waist down and the market is quietly deep throating him, the occasional "hukk hukk" sound faintly audible on the video conference. The other Fed Presidents slowly realize what is going on and as it dawns on them they express surprise then approval at Jerome's clear dominance over this troublesome market. Jerome casually interrupts Lael when she eventually mentions black unemployment, "Look Lael, we all appreciate your input on this but the minorities are at the highest employment ever. It's clear we need to continue with rate-". He grabs the markets head and slams her down to the balls. *cough* "Excuse me, rate hikes. That is what we promised the American people and we are damn well going to deliver, the market will be stronger". Jerome starts ejaculating down the market's throat as she instinctively swallows each load. "after we are done. That is the only path toward recovery and another bull market. We've made sacrifices for the covid hysteria and now it's time to unwind them." The majority of the other Fed presidents nod showing their approval not only for his strong monetary policy but also for maintaining his cool during business discussions while being not so secretly serviced. The video call winks out and Jerome finished, pulls his massive member out of the market. He gives her a hard slap, a bright red hand print appearing on her cheek within seconds and tells her to go put the largest plug she can find in her ass. Training the market has been tedious but well worth the effort.

the only time the market dumped before powell speech and then dumped more after he spoke was....jackson hole.

Crabchads, we win again.

>>52679279

>thinking megacorps are going to let AI exist outside of well controlled petri dishes

>>52679404
Wrong. The market rallied the day before Jackson Hole then gapped down the day of his speech.

>>52679332
you're retarded enough to compare tech 20 years ago with today's tech companies. the only one in a bubble is (You) anon

Hey convince me of not going balls deep on Paypal. They are trading below 2020 pandemic low. Shit is insane and it is expected to keep growing for a few more years.

>>52679404
-4% day and I would cum so fucking hard. It would be like a year of wage slaving in 3 hours

>>52678950
The only options are to make sure elections cannot be manipulated (impossible) or start doing the same shit dems are doing and cheat elections to elect who we want (Republicans won't do that). We are fucked.

>>52679332
This, so much this. The US has been drunk on cheap debt and stimulus for too long (thanks fed) creating massive speculative bubbles, fraudulent companies and a massive missallocation of capital. If a company is not profitable or doesn't have a clear path to profit soon, it should be liquidated

>>52679421
AI always becomes racist

>>52679428

If their latest 'accidental' release is anything to go by, you might want to wait.

>>52679428
bad company probably wont exist in 10 years with apple pay and google pay ifykyk

>>52679440
Based and liquidate pilled

>>52679401
I don't see a link. I hope pirating CNBC will be enough.

>>52679424
>the day before
i didnt say the day before I said the day of. the market was red, then went redder. usually for FOMC meetings the market inverses what it was before powell spoke.

>>52679421
Robot Hitler when?

>>52679401
Kek

Looks like the VIX is gonna break out boys

I want off Jerome's Wild Ride

Why does my stinkyhole smell EXACTLY like my mother's?? I don't get it.

>>52679444
It becomes racist because being racist is inherently natural. Woke culture is constantly swimming against the current and it's fucking stupid.

>>52679458
2988

>>52679447
What if apple and google don't exist in 10 years either? (This is me doing wishful thinking)

>DRIP still pumping

This is the only indicator I need.. insiders are dumping profitable companies with low p/e and oil doing well because they know EVERYTHING is getting heemed when jpow speaks and confirms that bulls are fucking retards

>>52678463
Mmmmmm LMT so yummy, SLLLLLLLRRRRRP

>>52679444
Checked, blessed trips of truth

whos slurping this obvious bear trap?

>>52679377
lucky digits, you're right, idiot, about what [has been?]/is fueling the market. How does he kill your greed? By beating the market down, that's how.
>>52679401
good shit, but needs more of a "dark brandon" feel to it but mixed with republican values.
>>52679426
was I comparing the tech companies of old to that of now, you dumb fucking nigger? I was comparing the rate of increase up to point of decline [multiplied by X] being very very similar. Tell me something I haven't thought of yet, or are you too fucking stupid?
>>52679397
Oh, is that what you read from my post you retarded monkey, god damn you are fucking dumb as shit. Bring something new to the table, faggot.

It's up

Market is gonna rally leading into JP speaking and during then start immediately dumping when he Jackson Hole's it

>>52679500
AQB is going to be bigger than google in another 15 years.

>>52679560
>AQB
I hope that means they're bot just mid sized companies. I'm sick of these fucking huge tech companies, they have too much control by virtue of owning and running vast swaths of tech. We need lots of mid sized techs, makes it harder for anybody to abuse the whole system at once

>IWM literally bounces on its 200-60 minute moving average
Can't make this shit up

Best days to scalp Calls/Puts when JP speaks

>>52679560
>start genetically engineered crickets side program to feed their mutant fish
>the crickets become more profitable than the fish
>drop the fish altogether
>become the number one source of food and largest company in the world by 2050

>>52679553
You obviously think that they're the same thing so no matter what anyone says you what-if it because you're looking for people to agree with you. You're like a dumb fucking autistic wall.

Neither of these we're better times.
>>52679592
Were only now unraveling the obamas administrations failings. Ukraine started under obama remember.
>>52679606
Dont even know where to start with this one, theres too much.

>The rate hikes will continue until I hear retail capitulate.

we need MORE bepis

>30 minutes

anyone got a link to jp speech?

>>52679676
I got you brother
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYUIt6FtIB4

>>52679657
Have they found this Pivot guy yet or what? Seriously, how long does it take to find this Frenchmen?

>>52679676
supposedly here: https://www.brookings.edu/events/federal-reserve-chair-jerome-powell-the-economic-outlook-and-the-labor-market/
...or give the vile CNBC the views: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYUIt6FtIB4

>>52679657
>INFLATION could be here he thought, with TOOLS you can fix anything.

>>52679673
/smg/ in one webm

35 MINUTES UNTIL WE GET JACKSON HOLED

>>52678834
Finally, a fellow intellectual.

This nigger is cooked if rates stay where they are

All his businesses rely on cheap money

>>52679686
>>52679689
thanks bros
undecided if I'll watch on YT or Brookings. YT has worse latency, but last time I watched a Powell speech anywhere other than YT, they didn't have the bandwidth to actually broadcast it so I had to go to YT. Meanwhile I'm sure algos have a transmitter in his voice box and a speech-to-text algorithm running at GHz so it can front run retail. fuck this fake and gay market

>>52679704
lol, you bears are so fucked, like lmao, so fucked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEcqHA7dbwM

>>52679715
god I can't wait

>>52679715
you sure that isnt sarcasm?

>>52679715
>Musk struggling to pay his TwitsRus loans

>>52679715
>severe recession
at this point we are looking at a Greater Depression

>>52679706
This is unironically an accurate quote for my experience.

>>52679720
>waiting until speech to react when you know you can't be faster

Place your bets now dumbass

>>52679720
Original link
https://youtu.be/5s6ZihWKyhw
dont give cnbc fascists clicks

>.50 priced in.
>lower than .50 we pump.
>higher than .50 we dump.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IT'S OVER

>>52679688
>pivot
what do (((they))) mean by pivot anyway?
is it a pivot if Jpow decreases from 75bps to 50bps? or he does 0bps and wait & see with a 5%+ terminal rate? or after he is literally cutting again?

>>52679743
thanks anon, just came into the gaymarket thread to ask this

>>52679592
Yes the moron that signed dodd-frank into law and allowed unlimited money printing in times of "emergency" leading to the absolute shitshow of an economy we have now. Dipshits.

>>52679743
Cheers anon. I was worried I might catch the gay if I clicked the CNBC link.

>>52679766
The "pivot" at the bare minimum is a signal that rate hikes will stop. A hard "pivot" would be a signal of rate cuts. One is more likely than the other.

>>52679751
If I dip, you dip, we dip.

>>52679766
No one knows anon. It's just a buzz word low iqs toss around while they keep getting rugged on every bear market rally pump and dump. They constantly redefined their expectations and anything that happens is bullish

>we can't hike because the economy is bad
>the economy is so good we don't need to hike

>>52679715
I never knew how much I loved recessions. I have people applying to work for me in droves and there is a certain desperation in their voice that makes my dick diamonds. I hope this recession goes on for a decade.

>>52679766
A pivot is a 180 from the current policy. In this case it means the Fed will start dropping rates down to zero and restart QE. It's not going to happen.

>>52679769
I used to play golf with a boomer in MBS and he always tried to tell me Obungo did a really great job with Dodd-Frank. Of course it was his kike boss that had that opinion

>>52679769

>>52679638
I'm looking for intelligent disagreement, got any?
>>52679715
you may be right, but I hope not. I like Elon for the commotion he's caused and support of free speech (even though admittedly it has and will cost him). He's right about the interest rates, at least to a degree. But to me, it seems any pending recession will not be nearly as severe in real consequences as the '08 one was (though yes, the fear seems palpable).
>>52679739
why?
>>52679743
thanks so much based anon
>>52678834
it's a shit-show, probably basically a money-harvesting scheme by those in the know.
pic-related is case-in-point.

dem bollie bandz looking tighter than a gookfus asshole

shill me on what should I buy biz

>>52679715
good, i hope space karen gets humbled
he's the most arrogant unlikable cunt imaginable
>>52679727
ur dum

>>52679751
It's just a fed statement
> committed to lowering inflation to 2%
> we will be data driven
> rate hikes will not increase forever
And the market with schitzo out and break 10% one way or the other

>>52679751
The market should take comfort in 75bp, its the new normal. Inflation isn't easing, employment is still too strong; 75 is in the chute.

>>52679622
Not really, premiums are JUICED. If you are wrong you will be dramatically and irrecoverably wrong.

>>52679788
Fine. I'm one of your workers. I quit!

>>52679688
Look at this nigger, he's going to buck break the Pivot'eers

So do I just go balls deep into trains now? Getting real tired of this 2 more weeks crap.

>>52679808
>ur dum

Sell signal confirmed.

>>52679814
>It's just a fed statement
Shit my bad. I thought it was another rate hike announcement.

>>52679833
I would if i were you

>>52679788
I would sound desperate too if I need to apply for a literal toilet scrubbing position

>>52679788
What the hell is wrong with you?

>>52679797
I think the crux of your question is will the results be the same as 2008. The reasons that the bubble got inflated were different as other anons have stated but we are in a super bubble nevertheless. Whether the result will be a recession or run away inflation depends on whether the feds can scare the market enough to get inflation down to a reasonable level. I'd actually look back to the 1970s where inflation was a serious issue to see how markets reacted then.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I'm up 3% today but everything in my portfolio red

>>52679851
Made me look

LOOK AT VIX COMPUTER

i am once again asking for some help fellas, i wont be greedy, just get me out please, thanks frens

>>52679851
Stop it.

>>52679851
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

JPOWELL SPEECH LEAKED

>>52679833
Strike on December 9th unless congress intervenes.
I hope the workers have the balls to go full 1877 if congress tries to stop them.
>https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-house-set-to-approve-bill-to-block-rail-strike/ar-AA14KgIF

>>52679879
if it did, /pol/ would have it

>>52679715
we will be in a recession after (((Musk))) gets margin called
looking at TSLA should be soon

>>52679879
What does he think of Janny wages on 4channel?

>>52679888
only thing /pol/ has is a tranny's ballsack on their face

>52678834
>1 pbtid
>copypasta

Stop responding to bait, newfags

>>52679788
I know a retarded tranny that's like that. No one will hire him because of the obvious looming hr nightmare.

>>52679897
He got trips, you got shit

>>52679873
I am once again asking if you can buy my options, I promise they will pay out for you, I just need the premium.

>>52679904
report the baiter and the baited

New

>>52679906
>>52679906

>>52679897
these days yes, but they did have an outline of president joe's speech about withdrawing from the sand dunes before he got up to speak. and the HB laptop pics and the AB diary in pdf format before it was deemed illegal for anyone other than official media to possess it

>>52679909
only pol schizos give a shit about gets anymore
i laughed when their faggot get about trump 2020 failed

>>52679911
I'll giya a nickel for em

>>52679923

>>52679882
...how the fuck does congress block a union strike? Its a literal constitutional right.

>>52679827
You're easily replaceable now. Oh by the way, I'm gonna need your work shirts back
>>52679847
Well what can you do. Cubicle cucks are finally starting to understand their jobs are fucking worthless
>>52679848
I get a certain pleasure from torturing the pathetic institution that is lazy entitled American labor.

>>52679911
i would fella but im all tapped out for the trip to the rollercoaster park in t minus 13 mins

>>52679888
>He doesn't know /pol/ is COMPED

>>52679942
The Constitution doesn't mean anything chud

>>52678834
basado

>>52679850
Basically, Carter appointed Volcker and the Senate approved him, Volcker raised rates which stayed high until Reagan replaced him with Greenspan. JPow quoted Volcker at Jackson Hole, which should be a sign to bulls (along with Biden endorsing JPow’s Fed policy moves in recent months) that the rape hikes and QT are here to stay.

Once again, and this should be obvious to everyone now that tech is laying off workers in droves and the housing market is dropping faster than ever before, the Fed is rightfully more concerned with inflation sinking the entirety of American hegemony than a recession or even a depression. The dollar can survive without the market but the market can’t survive without the dollar.

>>52680045
>tech is laying off workers in droves and the housing market is dropping faster than ever before
stop watching cnn and cnbc
housing is printing new ath in medium home sales prices and tech layoffs have been over a month ago

bears don't want you to know that volcker was also the biggest rate cutter in history.

>>52679850
Thanks for the level-headed reply, anon.
At least according to investopedia, inflation in the 1970's was caused by "oil prices, currency speculators, greedy businessmen, and avaricious union leaders".

IMO, current inflation is caused by [government-caused shutdowns] supply shortages, and money-printing/benefits, the later which lead to vastly increased market speculation *based on knowledge of pending inflation*. Self-reinforcing prophecy. Ironically, I think increasing rates can't decrease inflation much, because the inflation was caused by increase of money supply and supply shortage (both sort of flip sides of the same phenomenon, too much money chasing too few goods.) Seems to me interest rate hikes will only slow inflation a bit but mostly by putting companies out of business or dragging down their bottom line for a short while (but many will then see that staying in business is not worth it, and quit), therefore, temporarily less-inflation than current, until either rates decrease or the market becomes less competitive, at which people will simply swallow the price increases that have happened. The question is: is inflation persistent or not?

fuck yo puts nigga

wew lad, we're going DOWN bros lol

pivotbros...

WAIT WHY ARE WE PUMPIN NO HE'S NOT SAYIGN ANYTHING BUT BAD THINGS STOP PUMPING

Everything he is saying so far is bearinsh but my puts are dying

>>52680286
the 50bepis is a pivooot ccrowd is having their party it should be over soon

>>52680271
Time to buy SPXS!

Jpow wants current wagies to make less money and to force neets back in their cage. How demoralizing it must be to have your life ruined to make a metric normal again

>>52680045
>the Fed is rightfully more concerned with inflation sinking the entirety of American hegemony than a recession or even a depression
Inflation didn't threaten hegemony at all.
Dollar appreciated wildly, and foreign governments didn't really dump their treasuries much (holdings down mainly due to valuation effects, and were net buyers during peak inflation).

The fed saw the labor market start to get a bit to uppity, and decided to crack the whip and use a recession to tighten it up.
You don't have as strong of a negotiating position when people aren't hiring anymore.
Get back in the cagie, wagie.

Voters are fucking stupid and will blame everything on Brandon anyways. So JPOW has 0 incentive to not just wild out.
As long as he tells his buddies if they should buy calls or puts the day before they don't give a fuck what happens to the market.

>>52680286
market is irrational/insane
there will probably be a dump after he shuts up like there usually is, sit tight

why the fuck is he reverting the rate hikes by pumping the stock market?

>>52680151
>IMO, current inflation is caused by [government-caused shutdowns] supply shortages, and money-printing/benefits
Unironically, it's literally just a massive bubble in the cost of shipping goods. Which yeah, is largely attributable to zero-covid policy shutdowns in China.

It's likely QE had an effect, but probably not as much as people like to think.
It's not exactly "money printing", it's FOMC buying FI securities off the balance sheets of banks to inject liquidity & grow money supply.
This was probably unnecessary because it's not like the banks had any issues with capitalization, but they were just running back the 2008 playbook.
The fed hoovering up securities crowded out the market for fixed-income, which is why you see a flight to equities/crypto and an explosion in prices.
Tech employees with stock-based compensation saw huge windfalls, and increased consumption because they thought the party would go on forever.
Plenty of businesses also got huge windfalls from the PPP loan forgiveness too, which was the actual money printer since those $742b was completely financed by adding to the deficit.

Combine the effects of supply shift from overseas supply chains with demand shift from sudden windfalls and you get rapid price increases.
Then the media narrative around inflation starts, and even businesses that aren't particularly impacted by inflation use it as an excuse to jack up prices anyways since the consumer will accept it.

>Ironically, I think increasing rates can't decrease inflation much
It depends on if people believe it's transient or not.
Required rate-of-return (RRR) calculations take into account the risk free rate.
When that rate goes up, the math changes and suddenly certain projects stop making sense. That's why tech companies are starting to do layoffs.
You will eventually get a demand shift, but the timing and scale of it is hard to get right.