/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>52658992

Why start new threads before the old ones die?

>>52659087
A leftover habit from faster moving times. /biz/ is more quiet now so no need for a grace period I guess.

>>52659096
It just feels kinda odd to me to kill the momentum on an old thread. Then again, I basically just go from /pmg/ thread to pmg thread without ever going to the catalog.

>>52658992
Felt I should post my response here to the previous thread.

Silver isn’t even in the top ten of most used industrial metals.
steel, iron, copper, magnesium, aluminum, brass, zinc, bronze are way wasaaaaasye ahead of silver in usage.

>but precious metals

Silver is the ninth most used “precious” metal by value/weight behind rhodium, platinum, gold, ruthenium, iridium, osmium, palladium, rhenium.

If your thesis is usefulness then you should be “stacking” rhodium, platinum or gold well ahead of silver which is a byproduct of mining actually useful metals.


Is silver cool? Yes. Does it have uses? Yes. Is it the best? Not even kinda close. You’d be better off literally collecting can and melting them down into ingots than buying silver bars on the basis of desirability.

>>52659152
Well, are we here after fundamentals or are we here to make money? If silver is metal with most naked shorting then causing a short squeeze makes money even if silver itself is not "interesting" by any metric.
GameStop was not the most profitable company, did not have the biggest revenue, did not pay the best dividend, etc. But anons still squeezed it.

>stop buying physical silver
>if you still insist in acquiring physical metals, you can buy literally anything else, but stop it with the silver

>>52659180
The issue with that is the fact that JM Morgan is the primary short position in silver and also the markets holder of deliverable silver on the comex. They can cover every active contract like ten times over.

As long as they still have physical silver.
If they have no physical silver left then the price they advertise is meaningless because nobody can get it for that price.

>>52659212
I’m drunk. Ut you get what I’m saying. JPM has more silver than all futures contracts that exists. They also are the primary short interest and also the majority longs. They are the fucking market. You wanna buy silver. Go ahead and take some futures to delivery; they will send em. Wanna sell sell a few thousand ounces of silver? Is it deliverable? They will buy it. What do t you retards understand? This is the market. They are the market. It’s real. There will be no squeeze.

>>52658992
Is that image the dogbat token put through that AI?

>there will be no squeeze

>>52659283
>I don’t understand the commodity markets

Ok bro

>friend asks me about PMs
>start telling him about the creation of the fed, found fathers warning on fiat, social policies that can only exist on fiat, etc
>go into fundamentals of sound money
>sound like a schizo because i didnt prepare for such a speech during thanksgiving
>probably turned him off of silver
>giving him silver santa rounds and goldbacks for christmas anyway

>>52658992
Why do these pics all look like AI d0b0?

>>52659425
>dog knocks on your door
>he has a bat
>anon, I heard you requested "physical delivery"

>>52659367
In fairness, no rational person would sink money into a non productive asset like physical gold and silver anyways.

If he just ends up buying SPY or some mutual funds he will be far better off in the long term. Metals always have and always will vastly underperform all productive assets.

Metals are a cash alternative to hedge against fiat, they are by definition not an investment.

>>52659455
I'd say the line is very much blurred. Gold: bet on commodity-backed reserve currency. SPY: bet on more QE. Stock appreciation is very much divorced from actual cash flows: everyone just chucks 10% of their salary in ETFs and expects to be able to sell for more later. That's the "driver".

>>52659509
That’s has some basis however the stocks in the S&P! DOW and even Nasceap hacruslly generate revenue, growth and pay dividends. An ounce of gold is, was and always will be just an ounce of gold; it produced nothing, is is producing nothing, and it will never produce anything. On the other hand the equivalent value in shares of let’s say McDonalds stock produced tangible revenue is producing revenue and will continue to produce revenue while also growing so your capital will grow while generating revenue. Not only will the nominal value of stock shares be greater than gold and silver in five, ten, twenty years but it will be exponentially so with the revenue reinvested.

The base case for metals is depreciation of the dollar, stocks account for that as well while also generating revenue.

That’s why for metals exposure I invest in GDX. You make more money in owning the companies producing the metals than you do on holding just the metals. The metals are a cash alternative and piece of mind store of value. Holding physical metals is absolutely not an investment. It’s savings.

>>52659455
Gold and silver are actual wealth. They will always be wealth. They aren't investments because they are the end results of investments. Actual wealth.
Why do you think every fucking crypto portrays itself as a gold or silver coin. Because its a primal instinct that gold and silver are money and they want to tap into that. Literally every human civilization all across the world recognizes this. You could find a remote tribe in the Amazon that hasn't had contact with anyone for 2000 years and they would STILL recognize gold and silver as money.
Your stupid ass shilling isn't turning anyone away from buying silver, and no, JPM does not have the silver to cover the contracts you lying faggot. You shills are getting really desperate these days, it smells just like the weeks before GME squeezed. "Gamestop is worthless they will be bankrupt in two weeks. Short interest doesn't matter. Stop buying GME its going to 0 guys!!!"
Sneed.

>>52658992
Well hello there

>>52659658
Yea you’ve got it. Gold and silver are savings, wealth, stores of value. They are not investments.

If you want speculative upinstrumetpmts then but options in them. If you want investments but the miners of the ETFs of miners.

Gold and silver are money. They are wealth. They are not investments. You should value stocks et al in gold AMD Oliver. Ie; I make an ounce of gold today in the market or my house is now worth 250 ounces of fold.

>>52659367
>>giving him silver santa rounds and goldbacks for christmas anyway
This is the way

Anyone with half a brain will wake up once they actually feel it in their hands

Even my zoomer kids got dragons greed when I gave them silver for the first time, despite their initial skepticism

Good morning gentlemen. Fucking cold outside, seems like that winter front is finally going down.

Keep safe.

>>52659640
>That’s why for metals exposure I invest in GDX. You make more money in owning the companies producing the metals than you do on holding just the metals.
All GDX/XAU charts I can find seem to be almost constant ratio. If you don't trade the ratio where is the money coming from?

>>52658992

Where have i seen that pic before?

>>52659764
The main thing you are missing is the dividend.
GDX trades highly correlated with gold price of course but it also pay dividends and is backed by billions of dollars in actual companies and land. So when gold goes down may times GDX goes down less cause margined and assets.

>OP pic for several threads in a row is memecoin
Has confidence in silver fallen so far?

>>52659881
Someone should bake a new one with actual Metal in the OP.

Anons let me get your opinion on something. I was the anon who bought the 4 fake coins earlier.
So Mercari wants me to return them to the seller. They say once the tracking says delivered I’ll get my refund and to get a receipt from the post office incase there’s any issue.

Here’s the thing. I wanna be a nigger and keep the coins. Why? Because fuck you that’s why. (I’m not gonna sell them just think they’re neat)
What do you think will happen if i send an empty/lightly weighted package and get the receipt and when he says it was empty i say idk bro? He was the cunt selling fake shit anyway why should I send them back?
Will post the coins in next post. They’re pretty good fakes honestly if you didn’t know any better.

>>52659984

>>52659984
>>52659997
Posts like this fuel my suspicion that silver stackers are teenagers fresh out of Holocaust Class who can't afford and fear gold and treat silver coins like funko pops. How fucking dumb do you have to be to try to scam a website out of returning fake coins by sending them back an empty box? Have you been sold several fake silvers that are actually lead and have been handling them excessively and sucking on them for long periods of time?

>>52660015
Nah i bought them on purpose i just wanna keep them
I’ve got 20k in legit silver faggot

>>52660015

>>52658992
Not buying your bags d0bobaggies.

>>52659997
Those 1921 have the shittiest stamping of liberty I have ever seen in my life, holy fuck. The 1927 is actually at least a attempt to look like a real one, and assume all morgans are fake wish.com has too fucking many sellers of these, also scratched up face but minty everything else is RED FLAG. Now any gentlemen in the chat, do you have any good sources online outside ebay for barbers excluding the nickles?

>>52659984

Do no buy silver goys, buy any other metal except for silver.

>>52659714
> Yea you’ve got it. Gold and silver are savings, wealth, stores of value. They are not investments.
Yes. However, with the current shitshow there’s a non-negligible chance that they can be a speculative play that pays off and/or help you getting started in some fucked up future.
Hence, I’m doing both (well, thrice, also got me some crypto, for another speculative play).
So, since I missed the last thread almost being dead:
I’ve got an itch for a kilo bar. Seems like the cheapest I can get is pic related.
Seems like it could even become a collectors item in the future, but I dunno about coinvest and silver-to-go.
Any (germ)anons can wheight in? (Thanks >>52660010, let’s see if anyone else can chime in. Apparently they currently have fucked up shipping times, would suck if it arrives at Christmas , when I’m not home)

>>52659984
> What do you think will happen if i send an empty/lightly weighted package and get the receipt and when he says it was empty i say idk bro?
He might just eat the loss and ban you from future purchases.
Or he might forward the case to the police and then, dunno…
Do your really wanna find out, kid?

This is like the last hour to buy Megumin silver coins just so you guys know.

little bit of silver stacked

>>52660707
Every fucking time its sideways. Time for a new phone

>>52659984
How do you fags even manage to buy fake coins? How hard is it to buy from a reputable dealer? They have good prices anyway. Even on ebay ive never got a fake. Just look at their sales and feedback....

Someone should contact Ye and tell him about silver and how it will destroy JP Morgan because of their manipulation and short position. If he tweets it they will do it. Hell they are beating up Jews on the streets of new York now because of his tweets. If we could get all the Afro-Americans to buy silver it will drive the drain faster. Don't worry about them having wealth after the collapse. Fool and his money...

What do you think about this post:
>>52647748
Is it glowing or true?

>>52660270
Fucker blocked me immediately after i bought them all so no worries about that
And what’s he gonna do? Call the cops over him not getting his counterfeit coins back? Lmao

My offer was rejected on pickle Rick. Honestly I can’t see them selling many at regular price £79 or about $125 according to websites. It’s limited edition sure, but it’s ridiculous.

I’ll probs just grab a couple of 2023 Britannias instead now which is actually better value.

>>52659152
where are you getting your info? you seem to be a cornucopia of knowledge yet you yourself lack self awarness that would let you know you are a huge faggot

>>52659997
Lol
How much did you give for those 21 peace

>>52660815
Honestly im just hoping to god someone like ye or elon doesnt tweet about silver just yet. I still have a lot more stacking to do. Only just passed 100oz

thinking about getting into the copper stealing business

>>52659984
>>52659997
Send the coins back but carve into them COPY or FAKE on both sides. Then he cant rip people off in the future using those same coins at least.
What's his username on there btw?

>>52661294
3$ a pound at the scrap yard.

>>52659984
Could be mail fraud

Look anons, gold and silver macarons, looks like a meme

https://www.monnaiedeparis.fr/fr/pierre-herme

Ok this is the 2nd time now. Why is the op shilling dog with bat?

Good morning my foxy whiskered friends

>>52659455
"No rational person would sink money into physical gold". Meanwhile Central Banks are buying gold at historic levels. Hmmmmm.

>>52661437
your gold looks silver

>>52659984
Thieves like you disgust me. It's as if the part of your brain that distinguishes right and wrong failed to develop.

>>52661294
Theres more money in wage slaving. Better to not think of it as a business but rather a sidequest that you dont go too far out of your way to do.

>>52658992
Anyone else longing Iron ore after the china news?

>>52661467
Thats because its not pic rel

>>52661437
Pretty nice selection, it mirrors my own taste. No English royalty present.

>>52661622
>no english royalty
it pains me knowing they've been controlled by jewish financiers for centuries

>>52659455

>No rational person would…

>>52661761
Interesting wedding ring.

>>52661776
It's not, I wear mine on the right so it doesn't clash with my watch; it's a Slavic thing too so that works for half of me

>>52659997
So you are not talking about fake silver. You are talking about a numismatic fake. No ping test, magnet, acid, electromagnetic, or even xray test will detect a numismatic fake that is made from the proper size, shape, and metal alloy. You must examine the coin closely, and even then experts get fooled.

Here are the rules you broke:
1. If it is too good to be true, it probably is not true;
2. Buy only from reputable dealers (especially if you expect numismatic authenticity).

>>52661815
Wow I like those little gold button loaf things too. You have very good taste. Not asking what watch you have, it might spoil my high opinion of you.

>2 threads in a row coopted by crypto in the OP
>onions filled PMGers just let it happen

Does this look real? I've been burned by fake jewelry stamped before, and this piece doesn't look quite right.
It's 18cm long 3mm wide and weighs 3 grams

>>52661858
>You are talking about a numismatic fake.
I think those are not real silver fakes anon

>>52661910
Might be a fake piece real clasp situation, this needs tested due to large 14 Kt mark alone.

>>52662017
Yeah I'm just going to leave it alone then. It's a new seller with few ratings. I don't want to go through the hassle of returning it when it's inevitably fake. They have other stuff too that I'm just gonna ignore as costume jewelry

I recommend an actual baker make the next thread. Crypto nerds are taking over with their AInigger pics. So someone make a competing thread when he inevitably makes one early again. And then just use the non-low key crypto thread.

>>52661976
How can you tell that they are not silver from a photo?

>>52661891
>>52662286
What’s “crypto” about the OP? It’s a shitty pic, yes, but I don’t see any coins shilled.
If I find some time when the current thread’s dying, I’ll do a proper one.

>>52662323

>>52662367
Sorry, I’m not following the current shitcoin scene too much, so I don’t recognize any logo. I’m an OG /biz/coin guy!

https://youtu.be/o5qMluS45jY
Rudy is now up to 2 large bars of silver in his background

>>52659283
It was <35M ozt a month ago. I haven't seen an updated version since before halloween.

Dog bat 50B

>>52662322
checked

the shoepolish looking fake "tarnish", usually chinese copies have that

Why did the cheapies vanish?

crypto nerds will seethe

>>52660050
Nah, JHkDJuPe is right. You are, in fact, a massive niggerfaggot. White people do what's right for no other reason than that it is the right thing to do. Niggers on the other hand are always scheming and only do what is right when forced to by fear of repercussions. You are undeniably, indisputably an unmitigated, incorrigible niggerfaggot.

>>52660956
Did you buy the rope instead? Your digits from the previous thread are not to be denied anon.

>>52662526
Right, but Chinese copies of numismatics can still be silver. They are going for the numismatic premium, not the bullion value. And the fake patina is part of the numismatic ruse.

>>52662696
>Right, but Chinese copies of numismatics can still be silver.
Yes, but this one isn't at least the morgan dollar and the 1927 peace dollar is made out of something else than silver, I can't really explain but it looks fake and I have held and seen these type of coins more often

>>52661910
The density of gold is 19.32g/cc. Assuming it's roughly 1mm thick, that's an appropriate weight. At that length and width, if it's 14k, it should weigh approximately 3.2g.

>>52661910
The seller sent another photo showing the same thing on the bracelet itself. This looks like a diamond tester I've never seen gold tested like this. Am I rarted or does this check out. The test over the main part of the bracelet had the red bar all the way to the top

>>52660123
Thanks for confirming what we knew immediately.

>>52660123
Thought it was weird last couple threads where not only AI but also shitcoin images instead of something shiny or informative.

Let's speculate for a moment. Imagine you are China. The USA is now in open trade warfare with you. They are undermining your key manufacturing capability. On top of that, you are having economic problems unrelated to the US fucking with you. And domestic unrest, which may or may not be stimulated by US covert activity. What are you going to do to retaliate?

China seems to have expertise in counterfeiting. Why not counterfeit trillions of dollars and smuggle them into the USA to trigger massive inflation? The USA did it to Iraq and other "enemies". The main reason is that China holds trillions of dollars and would suffer huge losses with a dollar collapse. For now, China needs the dollar to hold its value. But the equation is changing.

China has been steadily unloading its US bonds. It must be careful not to start a stampede. But the tide has shifted and China is divesting itself of dollars. So let's assume China rids itself of most of its dollars. And lets assume, as is likely, that it is using those dollars to buy gold anonymously. Having turned its dollars into gold, why would it not, at that point, dump counterfeit dollars into the US and world market? It could maintain plausible deniability. The reason it might not is because the USA could retaliate and dump counterfeit yuan into the Chinese and world markets. How could China avoid the inflationary collapse of the yuan?

By issuing gold yuan coinage. It is very difficult to counterfeit gold coinage. So suddenly, the USD is undermined and the yuan becomes golden. The USA would have no choice but to also issue gold coinage.

>>52662781
lmao, he's using a diamond tester. look at the scale it says DIA, it looks like a hardness tester.

Stay away from that scammer.

ps. i could be wrong but im probably not

>>52663137
Maybe they aren't a scammer, maybe they are just an idiot.

>>52663322
so not only is he a scammer but you are potentially being scammed by a dumb one too? hmmm...

>stacks silver
>stacks gold
>Jews seething

>>52659984
>He was the cunt selling fake shit anyway why should I send them back?

While I don't agree with the anons calling you a nig, you shouldn't engage in petty fraud yourself. I like the suggestion of scratching, hammering, or otherwise ruining the fakes to make it impossible for the scammer to sell to a different noob. I think the seller will be on the hook for refunding your return shipping for the ruined fakes too. Send a tip including all address/contact info of the seller to the secret service and Treasury/mint about him selling counterfeit coinage and include a printed copy of the note along with the statute outlining penalties for counterfeiting in the return package to make him extra anxious in addition to being butthurt about the ruined coins, that's how you get your justice.

I've circled some of the obvious indicators on the 1921 fakes (a key date worth hundreds if real), the matching irregular bumps in the field in various places, most clearly the ones above "In God We Trvst" would never be present on genuine pieces and the matching dings on the neck are also obvious tells, the coins certainly came from the same mediocre quality die/mold. Anon was right about Chang sometimes making high quality forgeries using good .900 silver for rare pieces but these aren't specimens of those more sophisticated kinds of fakes, they're certainly just plated junk metal. If you know what you're doing it's safe to buy below-market coins jewelry and silverware from anywhere and thus get cheapies never available from dealers, but most of you anons don't know diddly-squat so will have to pay coin dealer Goldberg's goytax if you want genuine numismatics.

Horsefuckers are primed beat Yotsuba's record.

>>52663348
That's just an example of how dumb some people are without having any malice behind it. That pic is a real and current posting on Craigslist in my area, they truly think they have a 200 year old coin, they aren't a scammer just an idiot. In my opinion if you where to buy that coin you scammed yourself.

wife said she bought my xmas present and it is likely PM related. what tf did she get me? I prefer pre 33 US AU and bar form AG

>>52663594
your a terrible person for trying to ruin the surprise. for shame.

>>52663594
Really can't tell, price isn't quite right for a sov, franc, or 2.5 indian head unless she got a great deal

If it's silver it's an undeterminable mix

>>52663594
Just bought picrel for GF for Christmas. The fox has sentimental meaning for us.

>>52662472
oh god, he has a decent audience too.
if anyone understands the shittines of centralized economy its msgic the gathering players
>yes yes, spend 200 dollars on a playset of 4 goy[f]s you need to play modern
>powercreeped set released every 3 months
>-sorry your 800 dollar modern deck is now obsolete because we PRINTED more bullshit

cant print silver

Regretting not buying when it was sub $21 yesterday

>>52663708
sweer lookin coin, how large?
i wish us ameribros had access to more austrian coins, some of the designs are very nice

everyone who said black friday deals were just going to be discounts so that we would be paying normal prices for silver coins was right. look at us jumping for joy that brits cost 26, and now roos are 26 as well. this whole 'squeeze' and high premium fuckfest was just a ruse so the dealers didnt have to give any cYbER wEeK deals

Is Aeva stock sensors going in excavators?

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20221110005499/en/TIME-Magazine-Recognizes-Aeva-Aeries-II-4D-LiDAR-as-a-Best-Invention-of-2022

>>52663793
1/2 oz.

To the anon i said britannias were gay to earlier, i kneel
Got my first today. Damn they’re nice

>wanna buy silver
>can't bring myself to spend the money
How do I fix this problem?

>>52658992
I might have bought fake silver from a rather reputable coin dealer in town. When measuring against a known real round (SMI Morgan Copy), both the walking liberty copy and Buffalo from Mason Mint are thicker and ever so slightly wider. Ping test on the Buffalo is mediocre but the walking Liberty is highly suspect. Do rounds really vary a few millimeters in diameter and thickness? Going into the coin shop to confront them on this today.

>>52664185
Always have them test on a Sigma.

The crypto crash is really bringing in the noobs, eh.

>>52663777
Checks out

>>52664159
Think of it as transferring digital dollars to physical money. You can always sell it pier to pier for what you bought it for providing spot doesn't go down.

do people really pay a premium for poured silver

>>52664330
Depending on if they like the design or not, usually the premium is lower than minted products.

>>52664310
Thanks fren, makes it all easier.

>>52664220
I’ve been stacking for a couple years now. I have exclusively gotten SMI rounds until the physical location didn’t have any more. Now it’s all buffalos and a sprinkling of the most ugly random rounds. Mason Mint is new to me and I grabbed some, decent price from a known source. I’ll find out today and post results as to if they’re real and I’m a paranoid schizo that’s worried about a couple mils of difference in specs.

>>52664412
Get a scale

>>52661546
Dog ID.
>>52662500
Dubs.

>>52664431
And calipers too, no?

>>52660123
>>52664490
reminder that we are under a Telegram coordinated attack by some crypto nerds

>>52659984
Just send the coins back you nigger

>>52663501
Never underestimate the finical power furries and bronies have.

>>52664518
Yes. Get a digi for drugs, they go down to .01 grams. It's fairly easy to get dimensions correct, but rarely will the weight line up with everything.

>>52663616
kek true
>>52663667
good analysis, it's a real crapshoot
>>52663708
very cute, reminds me a bit of the "protect our world" russian set from the 90s would be a life goal to get the whole thing but havent started yet.

>>52658992
Need some krugs

>>52661910
Buy a stone and acid and test it. Its super easy and less than 20$ to set yourself up to test stuff.

>>52664901
I bought 2x 1oz 2022 silver krugs yesterday for $55
Good deal?
I also keep buying shit loads of junk silver at spot, think I should stop.

>>52660815
no, I want no negros to make it.

>>52664159
I justified it by not really considering it to be spending money
It’s really just transferring it into another asset
You’re not buying useless funko pops. You could take whatever you have and go get cash for it nearly anywhere. Albeit you may get a little less if you sell it like a retard but still, you’ll pretty much get your money back.

What i like to do is scope out good deals, buy them, resell them, and just add to my stack with the profits
Feels Good man
Some dumb nigger is buying a Morgan and a silver dollar from me on eBay for $100 at auction
Dumb fuck doesn’t realize you could get the Eagle for $35 and Morgan for $30 separately lol

>>52661076
They were $15 but i knew they were fake
I’m just trying to get them for free like a nigger lol
I decided I’m gonna send some back and shittily wrap the rest and say oh well they fell out in transit suck my cock

>>52660050
I've seen so many fake 1927 coins with that exact wear, be careful bros

>>52661493
How the fuck am i the thief he was selling fake coins nigger

>>52665646
meant to reply to>>52659997

>>52663432
Based. Will do exactly this. Thanks anon.
I’m gonna keep a couple of them though, I’ll send the rest back. Fuck em

>>52663432
Where can I learn more about how you easily spotted stuff like that aside from “lurk moar”

How are you supposed to celebrate entering the pirate class?

Made it there today.

>>52659984
Doesn't he have your address? I don't know if the $100 or whatever is worth the headache of some disgruntled guy out there possibly going postal on you.

>>52665677
I found a ton of them on Alibaba the exact same as the ones i posted lol
I never even considered the fact that they also do barber halfs, quarters, etc
Now it’s got Me checking everything

They even had this 1955 double die pennie
Honestly how could you even tell if that was fake if they used real copper? It sells for $3000

>>52665183
I'd take junk at spot over bullion coins w/ a premium. Not a terrible deal though, but you could've done better with Brits yesterday

>>52665734
That’s true. You’re right. On second thought i won’t fuck with them, I’ll just send them back (minus 4) and be done with it. Not worth.
He’s only 2 hours away

>>52665721
You show your stack. I'm hoping to enter conquistador tier early next year as I'm aiming for another double sovereign with King Chuck on the obverse.

>>52660590
Where can I find that? I haven't been on pmg in a while.

>>52665721
By stacking more

>>52665721
Fuck yeah I’m Roman Tier
I just wanna fill my bathtub and jump in like Scrooge mcduck one day anons

I’m looking for a mahogany pirate chest, because why not.

>>52665870
Nvm found it, thanks.

>>52665721
By going with a better chart

>>52665870
>>52666086
>>52660590
Megumin was extended until the 30th at midnight EST(?) due to the self serve ads being available. IIRC

I have been looking all day for the ad but I haven't seen it yet. I seen plenty of horsefucker ones though. Which you also have until 8pm EST the 30th for that one as well.

Should I buy some platinum? I have almost 50oz silver. My mom says she prefers platinum and maybe it would make her happy to see some.

>>52665701
>Where can I learn more about how you easily spotted stuff like that aside from “lurk moar”

Unfortunately I don't know of any quick easy resource to direct you to, knowing what to look for and be on guard against comes with experience. Studying pictures and coin forum discussions of all sorts of different known fakes, handling fakes IRL (a LCS might have some on hand they'd be willing to show you) and learning about the art of genuine coin production as well as the methods of making forgeries using hydraulic presses or casting and the telltale characteristics of coins made by different processes all helps to build your understanding and expertise. Sometimes genuine coins like a plain 1916 merc dime would have a "D" mint mark taken from a dime of a different year and applied/soldered then cleaned up, they can look convincing but upon magnification one can usually tell Jewish tricks were involved. For the flaws on the 1921 fakes that jumped out at me, I know to look for irregularities in the fields which aren't present on genuine coins like bubbles, pits, bumps etc., lack of crisp definition between the background/field and embossed elements, and other evidence common with fakes but not present with genuine articles. The fake applied then brushed "toning" others referenced is another red flag. Seeing the exact same irregularities on a different coin of the same year further confirms the fakeness, so for example if you see a "good deal" on a bunch of 1921 Philadelphia Morgans, study each one for repeated flaws in addition to other traits typical of counterfeits. Most of my collections have been built cheap and many superb scores I've made others might overlook because they seem "too good to be true", but that's a rule of thumb not universal law. If you know what you're doing one can do very well hunting down cheapies. Thousands of coin dealers make a living buying low and selling high, there's no reason anyone else can't also buy low for themselves.

>>52666280
the patrician's platinum starter kit

>>52666105
what is with that awful text placement

>>52666427
have an even worse chart kek

>>52666127
we mostly have it running on mobile, past data shows most people have an adblocker that works on PC while phone posters are the best target. its a footer ad.

>>52666437
nah the other one is worse

>>52663777
Checked. I made a small purchase yesterday, 'bout 'bout 35ozt total. Shouldn't have, really, what with it bein' Christmas. I was actually there buying gifts for my little nephews and nieces. But I couldn't resist and bought some for myself too.

Precious metal forge porn.

https://youtu.be/ztrZZdaLg6c

>>52666757
Woah cool!
It always upsets me how few views videos related to metals have on them
Oh well

Aside from checking on taxes on PMs in your region, as well as charges related to importing, is there any reason to buy stuff made in your country? Or is an ounce and ounce no matter what when the stacks finally have to be used?

>>52665651
Because you are trying to get something for nothing by lying. Were you raised by wolves or something?

>>52666930
>he’s literally selling counterfeit coins

>>52666857
Here in the states, you'll get paid more for eagles and buffalos. In some states, coins with monetary value can be sold immediately after they are bought. Something like a bar of gold or silver is considered "used goods" and must be kept for a period of time, for theft verification reasons, in some states. This is why coins are considered more liquid in some cases. If you were to sell to some of the online dealers like SD or JM, this wouldn't matter. You can check their "buy" prices on their websites to calculate the spreads on products. You could call your local dealers to do the same.

>>52660123
Funny how it switched from "AI will remove workplaces" to "anyone good with prompt engineering?" in less than a year.

>>52667139
I appreciate the insight, thanks.

Sometimes I hate you guys. I just woke up from a sinus infection fueled fever dream/nightmare where a father coin (Morgan dollar) is in constant states of panic and anger with his daughter coin (walking liberty) because she is always bringing home counterfeit, electrum, or mixed alloy coins to date, and he can't abide to see his daughter dilute her pureness with these inferior mixed metals. In the dream it all made sense and was hilarious, now that I'm awake I think I've been here to long with you guys.

>>52665092
Yeah I really need to do this. If I can sniff out a fake before even purchasing it saves a bunch of hassle

>>52667255
Good catch.
I really need a golden morgan dollar (yes, I know...) to re-do that pic.

is it better to buy coins or bullion? I like the idea of having a lump of precious metal

>>52658992
Bullion dealers are willing to pay more over spot for your silver than your gold

>>52659283
2008-2011 shows a 4x in price while inventory went down 60%. 2020-2022 shows inventory falling by 80% with price declining 30%. So either silver is has the shelf life of boy band merchandise or price is being suppressed for reasons related to Fed printing. I'm betting the latter. In which case there's a rebound price discovery moment regardless of a physical squeeze. It may not make a 30x but I'll take a 1x with no downside other than the liquidity premiums of PMs.

>>52663051
Same with Russia. It could probably explicitly peg the ruble to gold at the moment.

>>52663501
That's a comfy design. Might throw in on that.

>>52666477
Makes sense. And would explain why I didn't see it on PC. I have Kiwi browser on my phone so I have ad block that works on it too. And I forgot that the ads work that way.

also checked

>>52667699
>That's a comfy design. Might throw in on that.
checked

And yes the design is what sold me on it. And I know a 100% you haven't even seen the eastereggs on it. The autists on /mlp/ poured a lot of effort into it.

>>52665721
>How are you supposed to celebrate entering the pirate class?
10 hour long goon session (10 hours for every ounce) and gas station kratom. Well done stacker!

>>52667815
it looks terrible unironically, but the other side looks great

Just ordered this little beaut for about €50 lads, how'd i do?

>>52667979
Never buy chink coins

>Out for delivery
>Alert: Awaiting delivery scan, the delivery status of your item has not been updated
Does he understand I know his route, his facial expressions, dietary habits, and fetishes???

>>52666280
My sense is Pt is slightly high right now (1000).
It's reasonable at about 950, and a strong buy at 850.
But yes, Pt is a nice metal to have.
I think it's nice to have a sample of each, though it's kind of too late for Rh - it has mooned and settled back to what you see today. It's a real wild card.

Why is this place so slow today? Is it the bullshit OP pic from a cryptofaggot.

>>52667999
Checked and go get him.

>>52669038
Does anyone have her nudes so I can make an antisemitic, anti-crypto merc nation meme of her? Like this but without the bars? Thanks.

>>52669119
That pic is fake. I have seen it without the bars.

>>52667414
Kek. Grab your pan or metal detector and get some fresh air for some days.

This is how it's going to feel when someone's fiat suddenly flatlines

>>52663501
It's really unlucky that both them and Megumin have campaigns in the same month. They even compete for self-serve ad spots.

>>52669361
Nah, horsefuckers are running desktop

Magumin is running mobile, so they aren't competing for ad spots.

Unless have you seen mobile ad for the horsefuckers?

>>52667623
This guy was saying premiums are gonna go down soon but I’m not convinced
https://youtu.be/uj1DGqkgkuQ
>>52669038
Might be

When are the prospectors going out?

>>52669144
I know it's fake but I'd like one where it shows some more skin. Alas, I suppose I'll just have to keep searching.

evening all!
Have some great gold sniping from Pauly, as its too deep cold here to play!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg-j5uJeG0A

>>52663594
How does buying a financial asset count a present?
>honey, I bought some stocks today as a present for your bday

>>52669687
>buying cheap chinese crap at walmart is more the spirit of xmas
does fud even think?

>>52666477
I saw one of the ads yesterday, looked great. Congrats on selling out of the gilded btw.
Has there been an uptick in sales with the ads?

>>52669435
Was supposed to be this month but the gold plating is causing a delay

why yes, I do stack rare brits. don't you anon?

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Been waiting for 9 days for my ACH to clear only to find out just now that there was a problem and they weren't able to receive funds. Ended up having to pay with my debit card that resulted in an extra $40 tacked on to my total. Now I wait even longer, and for more money. I just want my gold and silver, bros...

>>52666280
>My mom says she prefers
mercs
ftfy

>>52659732
It's God's money. It's literally perfect. It's spiritually connected to our minds and souls.

welp, i hope the fiat currency crash occurs before chrstimas. just had some talks and emails with company people above me, not great. a lot of us are about to go on half time or furlough. damn shame, had a good thing goin

>>52670252
I'm getting laid off on Friday for the winter, only doing snow removal. FUCK YEAH!!!

>>52670348
i havent seen snow in probably five years. maybe some time off would do me good, instead of worrying about trying to fill the hours with some bullshit part time hourly job. i dunno man

>>52669727
a bit, we mostly wanted to have data on the new ad system 4chan has and be able to run one,

>>52670369
If you're a burger, you can apply for "underemployment" benefits. Don't stress, fren, everything will work out. If not, you can always become a glory hole operator, or be a rent boy.

>>52669793
I didn’t order any with plating!
(Although I probably should have)

i have physical silver

ama

>>52661454
If there was no risk of confiscatory taxation, theft or expropriation... well that wouldn't be humanity.
So when they come to take all your shit, you're glad you can move to xyz and bring 'money' with you.
It's shiny, it's fun just go with it, we've been cool with it for 1000000 years

Do you think silver will go up to 100 or even 1000,if so why would you think that,no screenshots of others research just your own reason ,if you believe it you should be able to back it up

>>52671330
It won't, but USD will go to 0 when CDBC is introduced. It's a hedge about "owning nothing and being happy".

>>52658992
Anybody every think about buying ancient Romans?

I'm going to an estate auction to buy up a bunch of silver for pennies. What's the best way to flip the silver into fiat (so I can buy more silver)?

pmg SUPER slow tonight

>>52671412
I was listening to Doug Casey's podcast and he brought up ancient coins recently. He said one of the reasons that they never go up in price really is that people keep finding more and more of them all the time in buried caches all over Europe from different time periods. It's a good reminder though of how things used to be and how they will be again.

>>52661815
>golden wedding ring
My man. My wife got me rose gold

>>52667962
What’s in the spoon

It shipped

>>52663501

after getting my foot in the doir with silver the past few months, I think it's time for me to get my first gold coin.

my challenge for you /pmg/, among the .9999 1ozt coins, convince me with a photo which one to buy.

>>52672404
I'm an elephant fan.

>>52672404
Canadian gold is underrated. 9999 fineness, has that classic "gold colored" gold unlike 22k gold coins like krugs or AGEs

Bombshell posted by Ditch on WSS :
https://www.reddit.com/r/Wallstreetsilver/comments/z85u0q/the_bankers_desperately_pull_the_efr_and_efp/

It's a bit complex (as always with Ditch), but basically if we haven't seen any movement from Comex's registered for the entire month of november, it's because the banksters used a kind of derivative instruments called EFP and EFR, which are synthetic OTC swaps. They are being used as delivery warrants by the issuers (CME Group/JPM/etc..) to play around silver deliveries via registered vaults.
In short, instead of delivering the physical silver, they are convincing the buyers to get yet another kind of silver IOUs, but unlike SLV it's being settled OTC, probably with some interests or cash incentives on top of it.

This is how we went from registered vaults bleeding over half a million oz every single day between May-October down to literally 0 for november. Meanwhile for 70Moz (2x what's left in comex vaults) of EFR were sold by the banksters this month.

Ditch believe that's it. The vaults simply are empty. But to keep the illusion alive, the banksters are inventing all kind of paper shenanigans acting as silver... at least on paper. And in the meantime, thanks to the price being suppressed via those derivatives, all majors participants exited their silver short positions. Like rats leaving the sinking ship.

But something broke down today. The last day of the month, this is not by chance. The physical machine restarted. And not just by a little : -1Moz in registered, and the same in eligible.
Do you know what it could be? The banksters consider they bought themselves enough time with the EFR/EFP to exit all their shorts, and now they aren't leveraged anymore, they don't care what's about to happen to registered (ie force majeure settling). The run for the exit is now allowed to continue with only few scraps left in the vaults. December might be interesting.

Frens, Santa might gib us a very special gift this Christmas.

>>52672584
>Santa might gib us a very special gift this Christmas.
One can only hope.

>>52671412
The elephant one is awesome, but too expensive

Picked it up from the doorstep yesterday (today)
What do you think? (You WILL rotate your phone)

>>52672584
>The run for the exit is now allowed to continue with only few scraps left in the vaults. December might be interesting.
>Frens, Santa might gib us a very special gift this Christmas.

Sorry bro, but our resident alcoholic shitbrained FUDlord says that's impossible:

>>52659212
>JM Morgan is the primary short position in silver and also the markets holder of deliverable silver on the comex. They can cover every active contract like ten times over.
>This is the market. They are the market. It’s real. There will be no squeeze.

As convincing as his frantic kvetching is I'll probably *not* take the advice of a drunken retard and instead continue trusting my gut and hoarding as much silver as I can get my hands on. Got about 9.5 kilos to pick up from the refinery in 1 week and another nice batch of scrap to drop off when I go get it. Couldn't be comfier stacking beautiful magical silver rocks at my pace and at my price, WAGMI fren.

>>52672809
I don't have any but really like seeing the Monarch Egyptian pieces, the individually pressed antique finish bars have a lot of character and look really cool.

>>52665092
What if it’s plated

>>52671477
Pawn it, preferably for over spot. That way if silver moons 200% you can get it back from the pawnshop for the same price, then immediately sell for more.. that’s my exit strategy.

>>52667414
Your now immortal

>>52658992
Why’s the price of silver staying about the same? I want it to doooomp so I can slurp.

>>52672720
>>52673088
Don't forget what (((they))) did back in October : private participants asking their SLV to be redeemed in physical were offered $2K in cash per delayed contract (5,000oz) up to end of December (last day stop).

Now it all make sense if by end of december the vaults are completely emptied already! Imagine getting fooled out of your 1000oz comex bars for 40c/oz lel.
Of course it was too good to be true!
Usually i tend to remain pessimistic to avoid deception, but this time my guts are telling me something big could be brewing. Like silver doing a nickel.
No matter what it WILL happen eventually, but i wouldn't mind this happooning for Xmas. I reached my 1500oz goal last week, so it would be the perfect timing.

>>52673320
You need to read my post here >>52672584, it will answer your question about the current price stalling.
tl;dr : price might see some big action around late december.

Psst, fellow kids... wanna know about the future?

>>52674021
>Silber ist im Verhältnis zum Golde so sehr entwerthet, wie dies im ganzen Verlaufe der neueren Zeit nicht der Fall gewesen ist.
~
>>Compared to gold, silver is so much undervalued, as it never has been in modern history
…and that book is from 1892. Seems like the whole
>Muh GSR
>it's gonna moon any time soon, cause undervalued
stuff has been around for a while (and didn't come to much). So don't be too overexcited >>52673383

Morning gents.

Yesterday i grabbed 1 sovereign, 2 indian liberties and 2 spanish gold coins for 1650€.

Waiting for the courier to arrive.

>>52659180
you fags need to stay on reddit

>>52672584
>>52672720
At last, we will have revenge.

>>52659283
>>52672584
>still above 2011 and 2016 levels
Have fun holding those heavy bags for another decade or more.

>>52674277
I trust the plan, we will all get loli harems it has been foretold many threads ago.

>>52674277
Heavy bags make for strong muscles.

>>52672523
9999 is the only way to go. Philharmonics are great too.

>>52672584
Holy shit

>>52665721
Conquistador here.

You're gonna make it. Just keep stacking. Little bit here, little bit there, and one day you'll wake up and wonder why your stack is so big.

And then you'll ask yourself why it isn't bigger.

>>52672584
This makes me concerned about ordering online from places that will ship beyond December 7th, or should I not be?

>>52674398
You should never be ordering online IMO.

>>52669870
Trying to grab the one on the left atm. I like that later one with the arse from 2014 but it’s priced too high

>>52674433
Is it the anonymous element of going to a shop, or do you get every piece tested in-person?
Frankly, my best deal right now for single ounces comes in assay packaging, but can that even be tested without taking it out? Are dealers equipped to repack those properly if they take out for testing? I might just spend extra for stuff without assay so it's easier to test.

>>52671690
Looks like 100% pure columbian street corn to me.

>>52669201
Called in for a couple days to get some rest, would love to get some fresh air just feeling to shitty right now.
>>52673210
Kek why would you do that to me in my weakened state.

>>52674021
>>52674057
2 more weeks

>>52671477
How did the estate auction work out for you? Anything good or did a cash for gold/silver fuck show up and cuck you out of bargains.

>>52663501
Wait, horsefuckers are stackers now?

>>52671412
I think about Marcus Aurelius daily.

>>52673166
>>>52665092
>What if it’s plated

It doesn't matter the acid test will be accurate .

>>52675214
They are boomers now, the show started 12 years ago.

No more dips, no more cheapies, it's over

what is the liquidity of these around the world?

do non american dealers/people like buying buffalos?

>>52675469
Kek
If they were boomer when they started to watch the show, yeah probably, but I doubt so.

Anyway, aren't furries/bronies/whatever, supposed to spend huge amount of money without thinking?
Is the flipping profit good with these coins?

>>52675451
I guess I'm testing 100 pieces sometime this week. That'll be an experience. Haven't bought them yet, but as long as I see the store allows for returns I figure it'll be faster to test it at home.

Any thoughts on having 1/2 ounce rounds if you can get them for the same price as the same amount in 1 ounce rounds?

>>52676188
Might as well. Only place I know that regularly sells 1/2 rounds at same premium as 1oz is first majestic silver. They are sold out right now though.

>>52676203
Thanks for the input. I also didn't know about that place so thanks for that too.

why dont more businesses accept goldbacks?
virtually no one will accept them
my neighbors kid cut our grass and i gave him some goldbacks, he came storming over and threatened to kick my ass for giving his son "fake money"
fucking idiots and their fiat

>>52676235
For the same reason they don’t accept crypto, crates of eggs or your BJ services:
They don’t have to and they don’t want to, because they’ve got a business to run and bills to pay. And they need fiat for that.

Oh, don’t get me wrong, I’m all for stacking some pm, but goldbacks? Sure, they look neat, but you might as well collect funko pops.

>>52672584
NO NO NO NO NO I ONLY HAVE 40 OZ'S I NEED MORE TIME STOOOOOOOOOOOP

>>52676235
>Goldbacks
A currency more worthless that shitcoin.

>>52675971
wont know until the kickstarter ends and products are shipped. however, i dont think they're serialized. i pledged cos cos fuck it, who doesnt want niche brony board silver

We pumping

>>52676109
Watch a few vids to learn how to do it. Its very easy and accurate.
I stack scrap gold.

>>52676390
You had 5000 years

>>52676359
I have about 25 or so singles and 5s. I like them but now I have a few I look at them and think I’d rather have bought a couple of grams of gold

>>52672584
This is gamestop all over again isn't it?

>>52676410
Hum, you got a point, I should pledge one too.
I checked, they are not serialized, does it change the resell value?

>>52676390
That might be enough for a harem breeding farm in a rural area

>>52676462
For sure, there's no way I'm placing acid onto stuff without researching how to do it.

I've seen it said that an ounce is an ounce, but is it best to stay away from coins that have a dollar value on them?

>>52676698
Nah the most common coins have dollar value on them

>>52676493
they could pump out a bunch more, we'd never know.
>there will only ever be one 188 Apu

>>52676489
I’m strapped in and I’ve got the popcorn ready.

>it begins

>>52676489
Yes. As planned since robinhood froze the GME buy button and Wall Street started to sell fake shadow shares. The silver squeeze started solely because we knew kikes can't print their way out of a commodity squeeze.

>>52673209
>t. Retard who's never been to a kike shop before

>>52676798
I wish i had an aputania.

Based anon and good stack. Keep doing gods job.

>>52663322
I wonder if he takes Google play cards

>do a little more research
>could get a better design for 100 bucks less
patience is truly a virtue

>>52676235
>fucking idiots and their
C'mon. You knew at the time using notes was a provocative move so you could segue into a fake money rant to feel superior.
I'd have kicked your smartass, too. Wait til the collapse. Then brag.

>>52676235
LMAO goldbacks

In light of >>52672584 can I expect silver prices to go down ever for the next 30 days or will they only go up from here?
I already noticed a purchase I was thinking of go up by 200 dollars since a week ago, but I wasn't watching the price every day.
Definitely not an expert with these matters; is it common for silver prices to shift up and down by a dollar or two each day?

>>52678100

Forgot the text “simple as”

>>52678274
>>52678288
why would you get those over actual physical gold

besides the pretty pictures

>>52678313
>You just Au

>>52678322
yea but how much physical gold do those even have? a 1/20 of a gram? and I'm just assuming there is even gold content. And I'm thinking that may be foolish to begin with.

Money metals gave me a free goldback with my order. I only bought some PMs just so I can say I bought some silver this year.

Why does no one stack plat?

>>52678313
>>52678322

>>52676462
>I stack scrap

Hey scrapfren, I have a tip for ya. Since you are already looking at silverware while out hunting for cheapies you should keep an eye open for vintage stainless Oneida flatware marked with their "silver cube" hallmark. Those were their premium quality pieces and they go for decent money on ebay. Some are better than others, the sets I got sell for $40 per place setting but other patterns are more desirable. I got 6 unused sets and 8 additional loose pieces yesterday for $14.84 total, should be an easy $200+ in the pocket after fees to put toward more cheap sterling. Since you're already out looking there's no sense in ignoring other worthwhile flips while hunting for PMs.

>>52678313
I bought the horse one specifically because of “you just know”

But yeah thought they were cool little fun things. But then ended up trying to grab one for each year from each state. I won’t get any larger ones because yeah, I can just buy gold.

>>52678313
Goldbacks ARE actual physical gold. You seem to be unclear on the relevant facts.

>>52678401
Platinum is primarily a bet on the future of hydrogen fuel cell tech. I think it is a good bet IF the global economic meltdown doesn't last too long. I would say silver first, gold second, platinum third in order of allocating a limited budget.

>>52678568
Yea I wasn't sure.

>>52678424
Heh

>>52666105
$1k-$30k makes you a Barron with land and servants?
Lol, lmao.

>>52658992

I buy storage units and resell things as a side hobby, it makes you appreciate gold and silver a bit more when you can dig through an entire unit of stuff and find nothing of any value.

It also makes you realize silver is undervalued when you can sell an old shitty gaming console and buy a pure silver bar with it, quite a good trade if you ask me.

>>52678423
Will do. Thanks for the tip

>>52678603
>I would say silver first, gold second, platinum third in order of allocating a limited budget.
Definitely, the larger the budget, the more you can dive into the later.
For a newbie trying to start stacking i'd advise the following depending on the budget ;
>1-5K ; 100% silver
>5-10K : 70% silver, 30% gold
>10-20K : 65% silver, 30% gold, 5% plat
>20-40K : 60% silver, 30% gold, 5% plat, 5% rare coins

Personal stack
>35K (at spot value) : 100% silver
But that's becuz i'm a schitzo.

>>52679224
Happy to help, here's a better pic of the mark which is very easy to remember. I think their simple "American Colonial" pattern is one of the best ones with single used pieces selling for $15-20 each; damn near sterling prices for stainless ain't bad especially if you come across a box full for a few bucks. Good luck out there anon.

>>52678603
>>52679459

thanks frens I'll stick with silver then.

>>52679539
Don't pay attention to zealots, get to 100oz silver. 1oz of gold first.

>>52679722
>1pbtID

The horsefucker coin is setting the bar high.

>>52679967
Shame the left hand side is an absolute clusterfuck. I pledged for two when it was via email. Then the demo coins came and the front looks crap as you can’t read any of it. And I didn’t bother doing the indigogo. The reverse is perfect. Ynaw0

>>52680186
Cool, I got 12. ^:)

>>52680211
>20 posts of horsefucking

>>52680390

>>52680432
thats a lot, hope there arent 100 of these on ebay the day after thry ship

>>52680477
I expect there will be anyway. When people started posting their BOG coins i was annoyed I’d skipped it. The photos people took in hand looked better than that on the website.

>>52680477
I expect people to list all the extra ones. And the market becoming over saturated the first couple months. But as /ss/ and cons happen more will be given away and sold. Also I'm not buying them for resale, I just want a bunch of mare silver.

>>52680524
what is /ss/

>>52676235
Kek bet you're the guy who tipped the qtpie waitress with goldbacks too huh?
>>52680521
My little brother stared at my bog coins autistically for like 5 minutes straight. Not saying a word. I think when I die I shall will them to him. (they will be worth $2500 each by then)
>>52680643
Straight shota???

>>52680643
/secret santa/ on /mlp/

A lot of people said they were buying for future /ss/

>>52659152
Anon....silver is FAR rarer than nickle or copper at .075 ppm versus 84 and 60 for nickle and copper but not as rareas gold, platinum and other PMs.

Hence the term poor mans gold

>silver which is a byproduct of mining actually useful metals.

Anon...you do realize silver is a critical component for PVs right? You also realize that silver is among THE most elecrically and thermally conductive metal right as wrll as being extremely low on the chemically reactive end.

Most of silvers co sumption is in industry and technology. Not useful? Christ....

>>52659455
Warren Buffet investes a billion in silver at one point smooth brain

Guess ill bake then

Next One Up!!!!

>>52680949
>>52680949
>>52680949

>>52676235
as >>52676359 said, bills need to be paid in dollars not goldbacks. Plus, I imagine the accounting/taxes for being paid in goldbacks is a nightmare. Maybe a private sole proprietor could accept goldbacks, but it's not really feasible for a large company to do so.

Also, it's kinda a dick move to pay the neighbor's kid in goldbacks unless you specifically agreed on it beforehand.

>>52659152
You're a retard for putting silver an iron in the same category.
Also, if silver was as abundant as copper it would replace copper in every application, making it #2 on your list (steel/iron are the same thing).

The ONLY reason it isn't higher on the <most used" list is precisely because it is too valuable.