/biz/ - Business & Finance

TRUMP 2024
Make The Stockmarket Great Again

>>52655124
fuck bulls

>futures

Question regarding SOXL, why are people holding it long? Wasn't there supposed to be a strategy there? From what I recall you are supposed to sell when underlying goes melow SMA 200 and buy when it goes over it again. I never backtested it, just asking if it wasn't the way you are supposed to play it.

It's over. Stocks will never go up again.

where's Oil going from here?
>inb4 Yes.
>inb4 backwards

>>52655144
how about DESANTIS 2024? all of Trump with none of the baggage. i'd love for them to work together but clearly that's not happening with the "Desantimonious" schoolyard namecalling shit again. the guy seriously can't just get out of his own way sometimes and it's painful to watch at this point.

>>52655160
That's exactly how you play it and many did. Others swing it. Others hold forever.

OGI

Hot? Or not?

>Futures

>>52655160
Chart that shows it better than words I guess. Surprisingly we almost touched it, but I would never buy in those market circumstances kek.

>>52655178
literally who

>>52655160
SOXL holders got greedy, they thought the line can only go up and then 2022 happened

>>52655160
some people are irreparably bullish on the underlying semiconductor industry and think of SOXL like it is leveraged SPY

>>52655158
wow he looks like he had a nice nap on the way down that slide!

>>52655158
look at all the people down at the finish line rushing to evil skiievel's aide

>>52655178
>Desantis the Navy glownigger
Nah fuck that.

>>52655176
Maybe

I have $75k in leveraged inverse ETFs like SQQQ and $20k in cash. What should I do with the remaining cash if I'm expecting something worse than 2008? I'm worried about not being able to cash out, as well as hyperinflation because of a debt default obliterating my gains.

>>52655190
>>52655191
true, 2021 was almost like brainwashing. Everyone knew market is overpriced and pumped with fake money, and yet it kept going up

>>52655176
The commodity I bet up on continuing OPEC cuts. The stocks I bet on crabbing until new earnings in two months.

>>52655204
i love how uncomfortable and contemptuous all of the security guards around him are. but they have to still protect him and act like they're not disgusted by this nigger. it's like America in a nutshell.

>>52655191
I'm super bullish on semiconductors in the long term... like as in 2024/2025
The semi companies aren't going to be doing well through the next quarters, anyone in SOXL right now must be insane.

I bet Kanye winning 2024 would be good for the stock market. Now there’s a real businessman who knows how to be successful

Had a dream last night ES hit 3961 and bounced. It bottomed at 3960.25. How do I profit off my dreams?

>>52655232
It is all about timing the market
If they bought the october dip, they would be up by almost 100%

>>52655250
Oh for sure, but if I bought the october dip, I'd have sold and moved to SOXS by now.

>>52655215
TLT
VCLT

Bonds will outperform stocks for the next decade. I have no faith in anything right now other than violent reaction to fomc/cpi data as the fed continues to hike and macro continues to get worse

Patrick Boyle had a good video. It's basically pointless to invest in any long term hold until after the first rate reduction. The market is trying to front run the bottom calling 75bps to 50bps a reduction but it's not... it will be bearish until they actually do a rate reduction and then it will be the green light to buy

>>52655215
If you are worried about not being able to cash out, you should have at least 15% in physical metal

>>52655241
You must ascend, young acolyte

I’m earning $170k annually at a senior level remote job in a very profitable business unit. How much salary should I target for a “technical leader” level on premise job in a normal business unit? I will have worked in my prior position about 1 year

>>52655178
Anon I'm with you on this one

>>52655268
Did I miss the video where Patrick Boyle explains why bonds will outperform stocks for the next decade, or did you just make it up?

I was so sure we would dump today but I didn't commit to anything I said I would do last night. I feel like a moron

>>52655302
>sunk the titanic on purpose (covered call)
My fav

>>52655178
I would vote for him just because he called the coof fake and gay. I wouldn't vote for anyone else. He also stood up against tranny/faggotry in schools and his state is 0% tax. The most based option

>>52655327
You buy in anticipation for a dump/pump. If you feel it's gonna happen that day you are too late.

>>52655268
TLT and VCLT both look like they're about to dump even harder.

>>52655288
Silver? Or should I get something that's more of a commodity?

>>52655312
>filename
>1pbtid
fuck off, shill

>>52655312
i feel like Trump was the necessary battering ram to smash through the leftist bullshit. but his job is done. he cleared the way for DeSantis. he "revealed" the Swamp and the Media for what they are. now a real professional who's young and full of passion can take the helm and steer the country towards a better future instead of destroying it day by day like brandon.

>>52655343
No I was gonna buy 401 0dte puts at open but I couldn't bring myself to do it.

>>52655323
Boyle never said that. It's my personal thesis. Boyle is a fan of equities over bonds but his analysis of rate hike environments showed it was better to just not even hold stock until the first rate reduction

>>52655178
I love Trump but he’s not a politician. It was a fluke that he won in 2016. I’m going to have me and my wife vote Desantis in the primaries. Trump should stay around as a mascot

All Bizraelis are on the Kanye train

>>52655366
I like schizo posters, you need to make some original memes though. I still remember druid anon for example. He had his own style. You can't just post copypasta, because noone will remember you in a year.

>>52655340
just look at his record and that's all you should need, his actions speak volumes. hell just getting communism taught in public schools with real survivors of the gulags and such is huge. i hope he makes that a country-wide policy.

>>52655351
Eewwwww, we joke about being retards, we dont actually say retarded shit, shillanon. Tell Milo hes still a faggot by the way.

>>52655336
not even a conspiracy

CMC Markets keeps rejecting my order for no reason after saying it has been accepted. What gives?

>>52655391
Naw, ill vote democrat if the kanye/milo/fag nick/cia shill campaign works.

>click on random /tv/ thread
>chudposting
>click on random /fit/ thread
>chudposting
>come back to /smg/
>chudposting

I can't believe I closed my apple shorts early FUCK

>>52655372
i've heard a lot of conservative talk radio hosts floating the idea of a 12-year MAGA reign with a Trump/DeSantis ticket in 2024 and then DeSantis becoming president for another 8 years after that, and i liked that idea a lot, but Trump just has to start the namecalling shit already, getting defensive, feels bad man. they should be working together, but i guess it just isn't meant to be. it's already hard enough dealing with the leftists and the media, no need to attack each other too.

>>52655392
I need to do something for sure.. some faggot today tried to steal clout for the KOLD play I shilled despite me having screenshots of earlier buy dates and lower cost basis KOLD. I really don't want to name fag but it might get to that point

>>52655428
>I really don't want to name fag but it might get to that point
oh please do, then my filter will work

>>52655419
weird shadows under dat dress. must be a trick of the light or sum'n.

>>52655426
Trump and Desantis are both leaders. You can’t put a leader in a lieutenant role. It doesn’t work well

>>52655443
Its called a DeSantis shadow.

>>52655311
21% higher than what you make now so $211,750 is what you hit em with, and ask for me as a remote part time but on call assistant consultant. I only charge $2k per month and will give you advice, creative solutions, startlingly accurate intuition, and a fresh outside perspective when you need it.

>>52655426
Trump is driven by ego instead of lust for true power. He has never wanted for anything except fame in his life. That's why I trust him more than career politicians, because he just wants to be loved, but it's also why he won't win.

>>52655347
Gold is less volatile, that's what I hold a majority of. Not sure I buy into the G:S ratio conspiracy nonsense.
>>52655422
>contributes nothing
WOMEN, EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>52655422
Maybe you are the chud? Go take your hormone blockers tranny

>Futures
https://youtu.be/-PCdu2PHjwA
Well shit, was Cyber Monday sales that bad?

>mpox happens a few quarters ago
>take a 1100 share position on CMRX
>make a little money writing covered calls on it
>decide to scale down to 300 shares
>sell aggressively ITM covered calls to get a little extra premium
So far I'm up $100 or something like that

Anyways, I see that Rubric CM (8% shareholder) wrote an open letter stating that
the company is discounted compared to it's liquidation value, and that it has the mpox drug, but it's putting all its eggs into one basket to fund a Phase 3 trial for ONC201, a cancer drug.
CMRX responded that it was an untapped market with little competition, which to me sounds like the drug has an extremely high chance of failure.

Can any FA anons offer their insight?

>>52655449
Then DeSantis will not run if Trump does, just like he said he would. Weird how people forgot he said that.

>>52655455
are those fucking bad dragons on her shelf

>>52655455
fat people are disgusting.

Kek. gotta give credit where its due. Stupid lawsuit with zero chance of winning but least it's creative.https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/28/business/florida-kraft-velveeta-mac-and-cheese-lawsuit/index.html

>>52655422
i just want line to go up again, anon. please, im so tired of "winning" under the Brandon administration...

>>52655482
Please tell the class how you know of such things. Kek

>>52655428
Kek, in previous thread there was some bored anon that was willing to do some graphics, you could probably use his help. If you are right, you will get all the glory, if not then we will at least have memes and memories.

>>52655455
that's fucking terrifying. and why the Republicans need to win. thanks for reminding me.

>>52655438
>t. hates money

>>52655500
I've been using this website for long enough

>>52655555

The corporate money wants desantis which means they know they can buy him off better than trump. hard pass

>>52655458
I will be reaching out, thanks

>>52655482
I've seen that webm so many times and was always so disgusted by them that I didn't even notice the collection of dozens of dildos prominently displayed in their home...

>>52655477
Then slow Joe will win again. Idc. It makes the democrats look incompetent with how he’s ruining the country

>>52655422
hide and report

>>52655518
Thanks for the (You).

>>52655516
Ok thats an acceptable.

>>52655500
Its in the OP

>>52655554
owned

>>52655555
nice get

>>52655555
checked

>>52655555
At least it was in /smg/, I guess.

>>52655534
Where did you get your crystal ball? Ive been in the market for one.

>>52655555
Impressive

>>52655521
No problem. Only reach out if you're ready to move up to executive VP within the next year and a half. You know where to find me. Best of luck in your endeavors, anon

>>52655519
It's grim when you consider that the only conservative presidents since the late 80s are the Bush royal family and the Trump royal family. So much for bootstraps.

>>52655519
Trump was the ultimate shabbos goy. He sold his daughter to a Jew to get elected and then shilled Johnson and Johnson and play pretended covid was real like the nwo told him to. He is a life long Democrat and controlled opposition the left used to destroy the image of the right. Most people on the right are fucking retards and it blows my mind they still support him. Obama deported more Mexicans than Trump

>>52655668
Uh oh, looks like we've got a rat in our midst.

>>52655668
Well thats settled. Now get over here and deepthroat my bwc. I know you can do it because it was on your second resume you turned in.

>>52655555
powerful, bullish numerals

>>52655178
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKsoXHYICqU

For me its obama (girl). Zoomies get out.

Santa is bringing coal this year

Completely ducked up by not buying SPY put debit spreads like I planned on doing. Everybody really is a millionaire trader in their head.

>Oil

Does /smg/ lend any credence to truflation?

>730pm est
>markets closed
>time to go prune 50% of /smg/ talking about politics
>politics are in no way related to financial markets
>this forum is for serious discussions of dogbuttrug coin only

>>52655844
Not at all. Every subscription service I have (Hulu, psplus etc) have all raised their prices this year. Housing is more expensive, gas is more expensive, food is more expensive.. what is decreasing?

>>52655856
Jannies also banned a guy for posting a YouTube link even though the YouTube video was about stocks and FTX. Very interesting staff here on /smg/

>>52655358
I've found 1 dte to be easier to deal with and less risk of getting the PDT mark of shame.

>>52655844
its a trend

>be canadian us dual citizen
>never knew i had to pay taxes for america
>my tfsa is no longer tax free
uhhh wtf. how raped am i gonna get if i file for the first time this year

Rate my positions

>>52655124
>Biden asks congress to help avert rail strike, per Reuters

Again? I thought the railroad strikes got cancelled, what happened this time??

>>52655892
what broker tells you what option strategy you are using?

mine just use the weird ass call symbols with numbers and letters

>>52655891
lol dude better renounce your American citizenship because Uncle Sam is about to shake every penny and break legs if they have to.

>>52655871
>What is decreasing?
Plenty of things are decreasing anon. Your quality of living, your freedom of speech, your privacy, your sperm count, your happiness, your life expectancy, etc etc

>>52655885
In the 18months or so I've been on smg on and off it seems like all the moderators here hate /smg/ and are lefty (probably transexual) retards that are seething their nfts/crypto is down 90%, think covid is real and you need to get 5 vaccines for it and mass prune/ban /smg/ whenever they want to have fun or are talking about anything that isn't "hormone blockers for children" tier lefty faggotry

>>52655891
US always gets taxes, how else would we pay israel?

>>52655871
not decreasing, but increasing less fast

could the chatter squad take their /pol/ gayops to /pol/? Thanks

>>52655917
there is no way im renouncing fuck canada, i'll move to the usa if i have to

>>52655921
Is there an easy way to get your sperm count checked?
How much would that cost?

>>52655891
>Can/US dual citizen
That's not exactly how it works. I believe your US taxes are only the money you've earned IN America.
You might owe like, $200 over your lifetime. Worth getting sorted, not much to get stressed about.
Your TFSA is fine.
t. Also Canadian born dual citizen

>>52655892
I think AAPL is going below 100 in a couple months

>>52655892
Did you really put up $29,200 of cash for a couple hundred dollars premium... Holy fucking retard

>>52655917
Aren't we like the only country that taxes it's citizens no matter where they are, and regardless of the taxes that France for example charges for your job in France? We are slaves anon. Won't they charge an 'exit tax' to renounce citizenship as well?

>>52655954
yeah i wont owe any taxes cause i have never earned over 110,000 USD, but i'm still spooked that they wont believe me about not knowing since I work in finance (lol). And to be honest i did hear about it I just assumed it was for rich people working in UAE and other hostile countries, thought canada had exemption via NAFTA or something.

>>52655952
nakadashi in a girl's pussy and see if she gets pregnant, it's free

>>52655952
Yea you just coom into a plastic bowl thing they give you and then they look at it under a microscope. They had me do that after my visectomy to make sure I had no swimmers in there

missed the whole day was watching the world cup games

>>52656000
>watching the world cup games
Uh, that's pretty problematic Anon.

>>52656000
Good morning over there and nice digits, kind sir

>>52655972
That would take the whole market with it.

>>52655974
hehe

>futures

>>52655977
you are one of two countries. the other is probably some weird tax haven like luxembourg

>>52656041
>that would take the whole market with it
Yes.. exactly..

You really shouldn't be managing your own money.. that portfolio is really fucking retarded

>>52655924
that's why i still try to talk about it despite getting b& occasionally. it's worth it, and it helps my mental health being away from this place 3 days at a time sometimes.

>>52655899
how do they rail workers not just get literally everything they want if they're all working together? "if you don't give us what we want we will literally shut your entire economy down", like they are holding a gun to the economy's head. how do they not just get whatever pay they want or they crash the economy by not working?

FRIDAY was literally the top

>BIll Ackman now spends a lot of time trying to defend his bagholding of HNT, a pump and dump in the dump phase
What the hell? I can understand VCs and "growth focused" tech hedge funds being clueless retards but Bill Mememan?

>>52655124
I sold 1238 jars of cumjam this month. Bow before me wagies.

that was the bottom.

>hope you bought.

>>52656121
Yeah actively trading in general is pretty mentally exhausting. I made enough realized gains today and I'm letting the rest of my puts ride until sub 3900 that I am taking tomorrow off to go hiking and not look at charts or read autism here all day. I'm not doing anything until the jpow speech on Wednesday. I have no longs only long dated puts and bear etfs that I'm holding till 3750-3850. Honestly I don't plan on doing much trading at all until after cpi/fomc mid December. I'll just bag gains when we finally finish the bart down and sit on cash until tmf pulls back

please join me in shorting ROST

why the fuck is a discount retailer worth $40B

>>52656179
>10k for repackaging vegetables
wow

nikkei…………………..

>>52655924
Only some power craving lefty would even want to censor and control or moderate speech for free on a forum like this, so of course they are all leftist control freak commies and actual fascists.

>>52656146
The railroad industry has a long history of the most corrupt, richest, hardass, power hungry faggots in the history of the world. Rockefeller literally had to invent oil pipelines because the railroad jews (Vanderbilt etc) refused to negotiate even a penny on transportation costs

>SMG: Monday Night Football Edition

>>52656179
Nice. Do you live near some tourist destination like Gatlinburg or something?

>>52656237
that doesn't answer my question. i mean they're literally threatening to not work right now. what happens if that happened? so how the fuck do you negotiate with that? and don't tell me they're breaking kneecaps in 2022 or some shit. pretty sure we'd hear about that in this day of social media.

>>52656206
Well technically 9739. About 7k after expenses.

I POST FALSE INFORMATION FOR FUN

How bullish will this be for food stocks?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/11/28/netherlands-close-3000-farms-comply-eu-rules/

>>52656257
by paying them more, retard. if they dont do work then gas prices will skyrocket due to no coal. as much as im willing to spoonfeed

>>52656257
Robots and AI will replace most workers eventually. Probably sooner than some think

>>52656268
based me too
i remember when 4chan faked steve jobs death

>>52656257
It's a game of chicken
>job pays well but sucks
>union says they will strike
>railroad jews will never offer crazy things Iike "vacation" or "sick days" they just fire you if you miss a single shift
>government is cucked into two more weeksing the railroad employees to prevent a crisis
>railroad workers refuse to actually strike because they will get fired

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIlNIVXpIns

>>52655124
>futures

Magic 30th Anniversary flopped, time for Hasbro puts

>>52656246
Helen, GA. As far as overpriced tourist traps go it's pretty kino and white.

>>52656269
This is very bearish for humanity, unless you are one of the top 1/100th of 1 percent, you and your offspring will be eating ze bugs before you know it

>>52656309
>Magic 30th Anniversary flopped
Ha...

>>52656211
Sup?

the fuck with this pump in futures?

>>52656299
Jpow has been saying soft landing all year but bulls don't understand what that means.. this has been the easiest year to make money swing trading ever

>>52656201
why the fuck did it go up so much recently

>>52656321
Yea those buildings look like something out of Gatlinburg. That seems comfy selling shit like that. How can you keep the 87,000 new IRS agents from trying to steal your money?

>>52656257
Legally, POTUS can order them back to work.

>>52656109
So what do you suggest.

That's not my whole portfolio, just my options.

>>52656356
My butterfly spreads that exp tomorrow need it to go up a tiny bit for me to get max gain, after that, it can tank to get my spreads that exp on Wednesday near max gain, and so on. I'm unique in the fact that the market actually cares about what I want

>>52656356

>>52656395
Bullard just said that he expects the fed funds rate to stay between 5-7% until 2024... if that happens spy will be like 3000 next year. You are playing around with 10s of thousands of margin on stocks I think will be down 30% by next year. Good luck dude

>>52656280
I think thats the crux of the disagreement -- the workers aren't getting laid enough since they are never home, so they don't care about the money so much as time off, and the railroads keep offering them pay raises, and they just wanna get laid.

>>52656411
Based Bullard.

>>52655891
>>52655954
well ackshually I think there is a us-canada tax treaty. If you paid taxes in canada, pretty much all of it can count towards US taxes owned as a credit (and vice versa)

so, it's not like you have to pay taxes _again_ if you've been paying in one country already

>>52656403
cursed image

>>52656412
more time off without a change in pay is technically still increasing their pay... but yes they are mainly about working conditions, which is related to a lack of pay. Some shit jobs like underwater welders get paid a lot for their shit life balance.
>>52656422
yeah there's exclusions, and credits.

>>52656257
They all individually decide to resign and get better jobs, which is not illegal.
The railroad companies bring in the national guard, illegals, prisoners, or something to man the railroads.
The railroad companies get their victory of not giving in to union demands.

>>52656433
Checked and agreed

whenever SPY goes over 400, I go bear mode. Simple as'

>>52655484

>>52656456
I waited for the crab this time. I got in way too early shorting the retard rally in August and learned my lesson

>>52656467
Heinous

>>52656295
If they actually forced zero hour before the election, they would have had serious leverage. Of course, their business agents would never have let that happen as most of them were volunteering in that election.

>>52656309
>>52656345
Already had a short combo, though I should've waited until today because that meant I'd have saved $200
Also, do you think wall street knows that? I mean they obviously got fucking railed by articles, but I don't expect the average investor to know the implication of today, eg sentiment could still go high

Anyone here traded 0DTE Options? Whats your W/L Ratio?

VVIX. Going up. The volatility hedges. Being bought. Forest. Starting to get louder.

Why is the forest getting louder.

>>52656528
so nobody bought their $1000 pieces of plastic?

>>52656528
Hasboro is already down 40% this year/23% in last three months. everyone knew the $1000 pack of cards wasn't going to sell

>>52656544
0 and 1

>>52656184
Just popping in what happens on Wednesday. I’m loaded up with calls regardless I suppose

The VVIX conundrum. The VVIX Black Box. They can't figure it out.

The Gordian Knot Of The Volatility Of VIX. The Pandora's Box That Opens Up The Foul Stench Of Heteroskedasticity.

>>52656544
Only played with 5DTE, back in august when it was easier to tell which way it would go.
3-0. I don't think I'll touch them again

VIX 23/25.5 call spreads. Late January expiry They didn't listen.

>futures

>>52656544
Over my trading career I've spent almost 20K on 1DTEs and only made 200 bucks

Im starting to believe alot of the people shitting on the dollar and shilling crypto currencies don't actually know much about either. Or how banks and businesses are run. Or how governments work. But they talk like they're some economic and geopolitical expert making wild predictions without much to back them up.

>>52656544
I only do 0DTE options because I blew up my account once on 2DTE based on FOMC. Recently I've had 80% winrate, but I do get out super early so I miss out on huge gains sometimes like today.

>>52656590
I'm just sitting on $9 1/20/23 uvxy calls.

>>52656283
I wish. I don't want to work anymore.

>>52656607
that's terrible

>>52656609
Crypto is a 0 sum game, for people to make money off of it, there has to be a greater fool to sell to
Turns out there's a lot of fools out there.

>>52656616
Youre serious right now . The UVXY. Idiot. Idiota!. Bastard. Bhenchode.

>>52656561
They didn't have website-crippling demand and the option to purchase it went away after like 30 minutes "Sorry this product is no longer available"

>>52656631
This. Buy Tesla

I fucked up, I margin called the wrong person. They’re gonna break my kneecaps now bros go on without me

>>52656580
We need a VVVIX.
Financial stability is a distant daydream without volvolvol.

>>52656631
>Crypto is a 0 sum game
Negative sum. Some of that "capital" has to pay the energy, data, or labor costs.

>>52656411
Fidelity marks it as margin even if you're not borrowing money.

I have 34% in cash equivalents. I'm comfy either way it goes.

Bullard also said earlier that they would cut rates in 2023. If rates go to 5%+ the system will break and the government would go bankrupt. It won't happen unless Venezuela tier inflation happens.

>>52656664
Dvegadvegadvega. A Hindu God.

I'll be honest. i don't know what the fuck is going on with this markets.

US market trading like CHINA is about to put on lockdown forever and supply chains will get broken again.

China market trading like China is about to re-open.

Good luck figuring out that one. It's a coin toss. Essentially it's just gambling at this point.

>>52656670
Rates will peak in February 2023, that's my prediction.

>>52656546
The Tigers. They hidden.

>>52656682
it's not gambling if all i do is continue to buy in regular intervals and hold for a really long time.

>>52656467
how do i profit off this

>>52656682

Judging by Warren Buffet buying TSM and the Taiwan election results. I'm leaning towards China is preparing to re-open soon.

>>52656687
The Korean Whore. Her Tits. Are Hidden.

>>52656630
Wait oops, my history doesn't calc spreads. It's only like 1100 dollars.

>>52656467
anon, gluttony and sloth are sins...

>>52656670
Okay that makes your portfolio a lot less retarded. I still think that's a lot of money to put up for such minimal returns and I would never buy nvda or aapl

>nvda
70 p/e, the ultimate redditor zoomer stock that they all buy for some reason, wayy too closely related to crypto, will not perform well during a recession and rate hikes

>aapl
I personally just really fucking hate this company. They are the embodiment of globohomo faggotry and I will never buy their stock or products. Their slave factory is rioting right now and 50-70% of iPhone product is fucked. They are going to take a massive haircut

>>52656708
Patricks. Not hidden.

>>52656670
Whoops, not 34%. This is my actual AA. Although slightly off b/c I rebalanced recently.

>>52656716
I think ur a dumb fag for hating on AAPL's *Stock* (remember, valuations are all relative, consider AAPL's unlevered FCF going into a recession.


NVDA i agree, the P/E means it belongs at 80/share given current float. Not nearly enough FCF to facilitate bond payments. Semi prices are literally dropping faster than the two towers on 9/11 given crypto crash

Elon is really just using too much cocaine and hanging around too many Republican childfuckers these day

>>52656739
>I think ur a dumb fag for hating on AAPL's *Stock*
they are run by a fag, easy short

>>52656739
A 20 p/e cellphone company shouldn't be the most valuable company in the world and bedrock of the American economy especially when all their manufacturing is reliant on China not sperging out

>>52656739
I think AAPL is setting themselves up for long term failure by pushing locked down hardware, planned obsolescence, censorship, etc. Monopolistic and anti consumer practices. I think it's plausible they get trust busted if they keep growing.

Also, while their P/E looks OK right now (25ish), it will compress due to the recession, and recessionary bottom P/Es are usually more like 10 anyway. I expect a big haircut in the next 3 months.

>>52656754
they are moving to india, and they are also creating the metaverse glasses. deal with it chud

>>52656762
I rarely trade tickers. I don't see the point. Just swing trade leveraged indexs and stop worshipping literal globohomo faggots

>>52656749
Go back

>>52656775
cool cope for being wrong on apple, didnt ask though

>futures

>>52656756
You're a conservative guy on 4chan who fails to see the bigger picture; AAPL has gargantuan cash float to service bonds in a recession. Stocks are a voting machine and over the period of 2+ years in a recession, the equities market votes on a company's ability to service their outstanding bonds and their unlevered free cash float.

They will get sold off a bit but a flight to value will come >>52656754 but I think semiconductors have a LOT to fall.


You guys need to start think in relative terms, not absolute terms. Yeah, AAPL will go down. Not nearly as much as shit like SHOP or NVDA or TWLO.

>>52656762
Yes ser, aaPL India because India super power now. We are the dealing and they are not wit et.

China is pumping, i hope anons didnt fall for the protest fud

>Futures

I don't even know what I will do with the money at this point.
I'm too adapted to the goblin life.
3 months now without a day off.
People talk to me but I don't really listen.

>>52656788
>metaverse glasses
>synch them with your digital vibrating iButtplug for a fully immersive experience

>>52656807

>>52656793
The bigger picture is that they are actively squeezing their consumers, who have less and less money every day, for profits while pissing people off with their anticonsumer shit. On top of that, new phones, especially new iphones, have been offering more and more diminishing returns as the tech matures.

If right to repair becomes a big meme or even gets passed, or AAPL gets trust busted, that will rape their free cash flow. It might not happen, but it's a good reason to not anticipate AAPL 10xing, like, ever. Even regardless of the more general stock market deflation with fed tightening. Basically, it's no longer a good growth pick and has no dividends.

When I say haircut I mean like -25 to -50%. You know, pretty normal stock market crash drawdowns. Not shit like NVDA and SHOP that will -95% from their ATHs.

I am experiencing my first ever cluster headache. It feels like someone is poking behind my eye with a screwdriver. This makes me VERY bearish. I'll be purchasing SOXS and perhaps some more SARK. You've been warned.

Also it looks like many anons actually got in and out of KOLD at the PERFECT time. Well done.

AMD and NVIDIA are both way overvalued
The amd stock reddit is like a cult

I'm just gonna buy more sqqq and drv heading into the recession while redditors baghold globohomo tech stocks

>>52656837
All ticker communities are cults

>>52656824
From a beta perspetive this makes no sense dude, L/S funds trade on relative value. As >>52656837
indicates, this is what will get sold off first. AAPL can be growth and value simultaneously. Welcome to post Dodd Frank regimes

SKYT Bro's
>"If American business wants the federal government to buy their products or services, they shouldn't be using the kind of Chinese-made chips that, because of Chinese government involvement, put our national security at risk," Senator Chuck Schumer said in remarks opening the Senate after its Thanksgiving holiday recess. "We need our government and our economy to rely on chips made right here in America."
>https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-senate-eyes-tightened-restrictions-215205153.html

>>52656687
You're such a worthless wastrel.

>>52656856
the amd one is especially feverish though

>>52656837
>tfw I was all hyped for Zen and built a desktop with an 1800X in 2017 when AMD was $10/share and knew it was better than Intel but didn't know about investing back then

>>52656870
>Schumer and Republican Senator John Cornyn introduced their proposal as an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act, or NDAA, an annual bill setting policy for the Department of Defense expected to pass the Senate and House of Representatives in December.

>>52656870
waiting for this to drop more, i can see it hitting $6 again before i buy

>>52656009
dont worry there was a pitch invader with a pride flag, and shirt talking about ukraine and iran.

reminding people of the current things pretty well.

>>52656031
gm sir

>>52656875
Cults don't move markets they are liquidity and every cult is shrinking especially ticker cults

>>52656089
>the other is probably some weird tax haven like luxembourg
I believe it's actually Eritrea lol: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/nov/04/stop-eritreas-war-funding-diaspora-tax-say-mps-and-lords

Why was KOLD up despite NG being up?

>>52656910
Let's keep the antisemitism to none or we won't have these generals any longer.

>>52656909
damn youre right. who tf would be stupid enough to pay tax to africa

>>52656888

>>52656929
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1669688506257770.webm

>>52656924
>The tax, levied on Eritreans living abroad to fund, according to the Eritrean government, development projects, is collected by Eritrea’s diplomatic and consular offices around the world. Failure to pay it in effect bars people from receiving consular help or assistance from the state, for example, if they want to get a passport or sell property in Eritrea.
Ngubu paying 2% of his $10k salary in order to get help leaching welfare? Probably a great deal for him.

>>52656799
A communist nation pumping while locking people inside so they can burn to death and sticking with covid zero policy. Print all they want but powpow will in the end send them back to the early 90's.

>>52656879
I wish I got into investing back then too, AMD seemed like an obvious buy not because of the rumors of how good zen was, but because intel was going to be stuck on 14nm for a long time to get

Until I started researching investing past few months my idea of taking advantage of a stock market downturn was to stay cashgang until the drop occurs

And now I'm buying up SOXS as fast as I can

>>52656874
No need to project your mothers and yours problems onto me anon. Need a hug?

>>52656910
KOLD was barely up, as was nat gas. The price action throughout the day makes total sense. You're just being an idiot.

>>52655340
lol imagine thinking a 94% survival rate in over 70s is a good stat to point at.

You guys realise outside the US, people live to be older than 70 right? oh i forgot thats communism.

What stock for this feel?

>>52657011
I am so happy i work in a fucking bunker.

>>52657002
boomer detected

>>52656966
Wasn't /NG up 4% today? Or does KOLD track some other nat gas future?

>>52657011
skyt

>>52657021
>>52657002

>we need to lockdown the entire world and print tens of trillions of dollars so obese diabetic 75 year olds can have a few more years

Yeah definitely a boomer "fuck you I got mine" faggot

I SOLD ALL MY CHINKMAN STONKS WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THANKS FOR THE PROFITS XI

NOW WE CAN CRASH THE MARKETS TO ZERO I DONT CARE.

>>52657027
>>52656966
Oh they're short Jan23 futes, which were barely up. Weird but OK.

WHO renaming monkey poop? is this shit making a comeback soon? Why would you rename if it's disappearing?

>>52657080
NYC changed it to MPV (short for "Monkeynigger Pox Virus") months ago. WHO just now doing it doesn't mean it's coming back. It means nobody bribed Tedros enough to care.

>>52657087
The official name is MPOX not mpv. so it's not even the same name.

Who is up for anther round of that SIGA PUMP!!

>>52657103
>>52657080
if youre gonna post kpoop can it at least be the cute girls

Are you niggers really shilling SIGA again?

>>52657118
RIP Tinny. Too soon.

>>52657118
Okay USA!

>>52657103
Lol, apparently NYC is going with MPV, and not even updating its urls, (https://www.nyc.gov/site/doh/data/health-tools/monkepox.page#surveillance)) while the Gay Area is going with MPX (https://sf.gov/information/mpx).). What a complete mess.

Anyway don't seem to be any upticks but also no eradication, which mean we can't even get headlines about The Return of Monkepox. How lame.

>>52657126
That would be exciting. Mutations are fun. Alas, seems it's just wordcels being wordcels. No shilling or profit to be had.

I don't do this often, but I guess I'll help you all make some money. Bonds will melt up. TLT, grab shares or LEAPS or anything just get in. 60/40 is back, but in the form of 60% bonds 40% cash.

You know reading some of the things on this site (https://www.marketwatch.com/column/the-moneyist?mod=personal-finance)), makes you realize just how good you got it sometimes. Just look at that story about the 72 year old dude springing that surprise kid on the family. (And yes, the kid is young, real young; shocking kinda that the old geezer could even get it uh "working" you know)

>>52657162
Buddy check National Debt Computer

>>52657126
>>52657103
I don't care for SIGA, I have CMRX see >>52655476

>>52657162
I have an 18 month cashable GIC at 5.25% right now. Feeling pretty comfy

>>52657162
The Fed pays 3.9% interest on reserves and is going to continue hiking rates. Even if there is a rush to safety because of recession fears, the rate at the Fed sets a floor on bond yields.

I tried to make 4 different buys today and it was all rejected. Do I just have to buy higher numbers or is it also the system rejecting me because of low availability?

>>52657162
Ill jump in when we get to 6.25

>>52657254
why did it reject? it should give you a message on your ticket, if not call your broker

i'm bagholding some shit preferred stock until 2024 boys. AQNU wtf is this horse shit nigger utility company doing to warrant such deep dumps on a preferred stock.

>>52657162
THAT ALSO MEAN STOCKS GO DOWN TOO SO I THINK IM GOOD IN SPXS

I'm going to start taking ice baths to help my trading. Anyone tried this?

>>52657254
youre probably being a retard and entering your oder wrong

New

>>52657366
>>52657366

>>52657372
She's only 292 posts old you sick fuck

>>52657413
/smg/ and coming early, name a more iconic duo.

>>52657413
>>52657429
kek

>>52656879
Haha that's nothing, I was like you only I actually bought AMD at around $2. I owned the shares on options house which then got bought out by E-Trade. Since I already had an E-Trade account I sold all my options house stocks which included amd for like $3 and never bought it back. Hahaha kill me.

SOXL chads who bought at 3:30 yesterday will inherit the NASDAQ

>>52657310
Wrong, bonds going up means bond yields going down. Lower yields means stocks go up.

>>52656817
Kek

>>52657136
Niggerpox?

But it really should be faggotpox. Let's be honest

>>52654850
>this is what Mumus actually believe
>they lost their shirt in 2022 because they believe shorting cannot work
topkek