/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>52644385
W-what is this chart? Please explain as if you're speaking to a very stupid person (me). Thanks.

>>52644405
Reverse Repo is bankrupting the Fed.

>>52644385
They’re literally pumping banks so they can buy the bottom

>>52644433
Ha! Great. Fucking stupid jews. So what are there options now, to print or to go bankrupt?
Either is good. I'll be a millionaire with crypto or I'll live to see the Federal Reserve go out of business just in time for the regular centennial rise in counter-semitism. Brilliant!

>>52644405
if you are holding crypto or stock you finna get rekt

Explain, I'm retarded

>>52644480
Not if they do QE as the response
Which they always do

>>52644471
>the Federal Reserve go out of business
Unlikely
That deficit will probably be passed to the treasury and be paid by taxpayers

>>52644372
>>52644405
>>52644483
With Jews you lose.

Get the fuck out of USD. Put it literally anywhere else. Anything.

Bitcoin/eth/icp/land/cars/guns/whatever the fuck. Anything besides liquid cash.

You finna get assraped by inflation.

>>52644372
Fuckkk not yet I need my student loan money to dump into crypto

>>52644651
Also, get out of euro's.

>>52644665
The money printer turning on to save the economy will cause the relative value of your debt to collapse in on itself like a dying star.
Hodling anything liquid or based in UsD value will get rekt.
Flee you fucking idiots. This is the alpha you all keep coming to biz to find.

Tldr for retards;
>the treasury sector is insolvent
>US bonds are rugging
>economic crisis is here
>only way out is money printer to inflate away debts.
Prepare your anus for venezuela, us dollar edition.

Happy cyber monday, niggers.

>>52644651
the default will be hidden out of sight, everything is managed demolition.
>everyone, here's your new CBDC dollar

>Central bank default

they can print money guys

It's probably a nothingburger like always

>>52644801
seems comfy going all in btc at 16k
what a steal

>>52644814
They are crashing the economy on purpose to enforce a new standard

>>52644866
>They are crashing the economy on purpose to enforce a new standard

They could actually do this. Destroy the dollar and switch to CBDC. Crazier things have happened last few years.

>>52644816
this lol

>>52644433
The Fed cannot go bankrupt THOUGH.

>>52644372
what were there really people seriously thinking that powell would go to 10% interest for a decade will doing QT at the same time

of course they would fold, the only question is when exactly, as i am not insider or galaxy brained enough for it i went in on the june capitulation and since the ftx crash am just putting all spare cash into eth/link to be on the safe side

>>52645199
No the fed charges it to the treasury according to the chart op posted

>>52644816
imagine be able to print infinite money and still make -10B$/day.
fucking kek, the shitshow gonn abe epic, and it will be chrismas, because jews hate chrismas and because of 24.12.1913 (burger lowiq date: 12.24.1913)

>>52644433
>bankrupting the Fed
The Fed doesn't have to be profitable, it can print money.

>>52646240
While it is true that the Fed can print essentially infinite dollars electronically, that does not in any way prevent the consequences of such an action. Right now the Fed is paying near all-time record high rate in the overnight Repo market to soak up liquidity from the member banks that ended up holding the vast majority of the dollars printed in the last few years. If these member banks fear that the value of the dollars that they have parked at the Fed are going to tank in purchasing powe, due to money printing; they will dump those dollars in the market to buy, any and all commodities they can to save that value. This is one of the potential triggers for hyperinflation and the death of the dollar.

>>52647570
I doubt the dollar will hyperinflate. We can be mad the at the US, but it just is what it is: it is the world hegemon and is extraordinarily blessed in terms of geography and resources. The decay is clearly visible, but given that the dollar is still the reserve currency, it's every other currency that'll hyperinflate first. According to the dollar milkshake theory, which I find credible, the dollar will eventually lose its status as the reserve currency because of its strength; because no one will be able to get it. After that, foreigners probably will dump all of their US Treasuries, but that might be decades in the future.

>>52644372
>>52644385
>>52644405

this board is actually filled with morons.

The chart shows the Feds balance sheet. They are in the red. Why? Because the Fed bought MBS and bonds all the way up while pumping everybody else's bags during QE 43. Same as if you bought stocks at the COVID top and held them until today. You'd be red, too. They're not allowed to sell without causing armageddon to financial liquidity. It's an admission that QE was way overdone, but it had to be done to normalize market conditions. If anything, it tells you QE is NOT coming back.

Congress may give Powell shit for it but given a democrat president and republican congress, both sides will be fine pointing fingers at the other side for the cause of America's problems.

Morons also talk about the Reverse Repo operations, but they are actually one of the few GOOD ideas the fed has had. They drain excess liquidity out of the system, akin to tightening financial conditions without the long-term damage of raising rates.

>>52644801
The USD will lose reserve currency status and we will go into hyperinflation. Look for 2025 to be the worst year. Start preparing and stocking up now.

>>52647748
Thanks big brain

>>52647748
So what will happen in the next few years if QE infinity and hyperinflation aren’t on the menu?

>>52644385
lmao what a shitshow of a graph
some lightweight BPS is enough to send this to the grave

>>52644372
Let me guess, he's shilling gold.
>pull up his twitter
>even worse, it's GME and BTC
I'm not buying your bags faggot.

>>52648577
The disdain this board has for gold is laughable. You pretweens are going to love working four hours a week at McCricket’s for Fedcoins you can spend on whatever zoomer shit you like (only if you’re up to date on your monthly boosters).

>>52644372
Imagine being this retarded.

>>52647748
The morons on this board are allergic to facts.

>>52648607
I'm 35 and get distributions that pay out more than McDonalds managers make. I don't give a fuck about gold because it's a shit tier asset that is useless for anything outside of trading. Sorry you fell for the meme and actually put your life savings into illiquid shiny rocks.

>>52648646
>useless for anything
Does your middle school teacher know you’re shitposting right now instead of listening to the tranny lesson?

>>52644816
>they can print money guys
and it's worse than a default, smarty pants

>>52644433
impossible they jsut print more money

>>52648831
death spiral of the currency is worse than a treasury bankruptcy
a bankruptcy would level the accounts and bring responsible physical policy to the table
they're never gonna be responsible and shitcoins will replace the dollar as the reserve

>>52648646
>I'm rich
lol no you are not

>>52647645
The dollar milkshake theory is correct in it's analysis of the relationship between other fiat currencies to the dollar. However it does not take into account the supreme currency of gold. Hyperinflation of the dollar seems unlikely when all fiat currencies are falling together, but when all fiat currencies start to fall versus gold then the value of fiat becomes suspect.

>>52648859
bullish for XRP

Ignore fed, dollar gongo up

>>52648318
It has to be, otherwise no tax revenue, then austerity. Usually fiat is simply debased til it's worthless. Probably why they are testing a CBDC.

>>52648318
Line continue to go down.

>>52648318
>So what will happen in the next few years if QE infinity and hyperinflation aren’t on the menu?
Crypto bear market until 2025 at the very least

>>52649135
A CBDC if implemented would hyper inflate much faster than the current system could ever could. CBDC's are essentially ransomeware money that every single person will spend as soon as they get it just to get ride of it. Saving at that point would be have to be done through commodities. The digital funny money would have no utility to anyone above a room temperature Iq.

>>52649135
This. The CBDC is your New Reichsmark. Nobody says it out loud, it's managed destruction, a demolition operation since they know they can't pull out of it anymore. Can is at the end of the road.

>>52647790
that's why they are 'testing' CBDC now. They're not testing at all in the sense of gathering information, they are preparing for the downfall of the USD. The CBDC will simply replace it and with fractional reserve banking they will jew themselves out of the USD and into the CBDC. By the time they're ready, people will have no choice but to accept it. End of privacy, end of crypto for US holders, end of a lot of things. All through the back door under the guise of saving families' purchasing power.
There is no alternative, the world is breaking free from the USD as a reserve, thank Russia for that who is pulling in China more and the Saudis more and more every day. It's irreversible.
With jews you lose.

>>52649224
>Saving at that point would be have to be done through commodities.
>Your iPhone 17: You have received a transfer of $6,500 NUSD in your account. As per Federal Reserve guidelines, your daily spending limit for 2026 is set at $100, excluding your preapproved credit cards and mortgage payments.
They will save for you, chuck.

>>52644665
>>52644801
Best thing to do in this situation is to debtmax with fixed interest.
The assess you buy into with debt will only appreciate whilst your loans effectively become worthless

>>52647748
Cope

>>52648318
Normalized prices? Economic carnage. 100k can actually buy something again besides a new SUV

>>52650188
nigger in 2021 the faggot FED literally said that they would keep interest rates near zero all the way through 2023. They LIE about it

>>52650188
>Muh tweet of fed dove saying maybe in a year mumu
Kek

>>52647748
>Morons also talk about the Reverse Repo operations, but they are actually one of the few GOOD ideas the fed has had

>>52650140
I believe that any contract with a fixed interest rate will be torn up and reinstated at a higher or adjustable interest rate as hyperinflation worsens. Don’t like it? Too bad, nothing you can do. Don’t rely on a fixed interest loan remaining fixed interest as inflation gets into triple digits. You’ll have no recourse when your mortgage all of sudden has a 50% interest rate

>>52644433
>clearly shows that the payments are now going to the fed instead of from the fed.
>bankrupting the fed

>>52644433
>brankrupting the fed
You mean the fed is prepping the congress bailout bull

>>52650650
at that point civility won't be offered, the people would just stop making payments and the machine would rapidly run out of cogs. even the bugs revolted and stopped making mortgage payments to pending construction condos, and those are the most docile of all populations
i also dont buy the cbdc dystopia completely, it is a system so vulnerable to disruption. a single well placed cyber attack, bullet in transformer etc. for a motivated attacker it would be easy to just halt operations with little effort expended

>>52644433
>t. literal retard

>>52644471
>stupid jews
they made their money, we will be left holding every garbage bag in the world, aka we are the stupid ones for not making the holocaust real yet

>>52644372
QE is dead. long live QE

>>52647748
>If anything, it tells you QE is NOT coming back.
and that is a GOOD thing. we don't need the fed to pump the market to fucking eternity. things go up, things go down. but noooooo. fucking addicts.

>>52650804
You have a lot of faith in Americans. I think they’re much more tolerant to bullshit than you think.

>>52647748
the only thing holding the ponzi together is the job numbers m8, as soon as the jobs show weakness the printing will begin. its a game of musical chairs.

>>52650928
just dont pay. if digital money can be taken from you by force its no longer money. since there is still alternatives in cash, pms and crypto, the black market will eventually be the only market. its not like the elites are going to be using cbdcs, it will quickly enter the collective consiousness as company scrip. just think about how poorly the information flow was able to be controlled thanks to the internet

>>52647645
>it is the world hegemon and is extraordinarily blessed
imagine actually believing this bluff

>>52649224
>The digital funny money would have no utility to anyone above a room temperature Iq.
So what you're saying is that the vast majority of people will happily use CBDCs.

>>52648639
cope more bobofag

>>52647748
Are you praising the fed for creating this problem to begin with?

>>52647748
it is just more can kicking, the Fed ends up with Toxic assets on the books and decades of stagflation, in a best case scenario. reverse repo and QE are last ditch MMT attempts to save a fiat system. its intellectual squatters like you that enable fraudulent fiat systems to Empower totalitarian western nanny-states.

>>52644372
I agree that there is a financial collapse coming and that the fed is printing off an absurd amount of money, but I'm not sure that the "Peruvian Bull" is a reliable source of financial information.

You stupid cocksucking slob retard

>>52648859
death spiral of currency is definitely not worse than treasury bankruptcy (from the govt's perspective)
currency deathspiral can be orderly spread out over years and can kicked etc etc. a treasury bankruptcy is catastrophic and renders the usa a banana republic overnight. not to mention a bankruptcy would cause the entire planet to dump all their usd denominated assets back into the US which would cause hyperinflation itself anyway

>>52644372
>>52644385
This is a GME thread niggas. This guy is saying this is bullish for GAMESTOP

>>52647748
There’s no MBS’ in that
You got a lot of things wrong but you’re good at repeating what central bankers tell you
Selling securities at a discount to banks ( the reverse repo market) is not deflationary
Yes it means money left the economy to buy that bond but it means the holder is going to earn extra money and actually increase inflation
If the fed wanted to remove excess liquidity why not just raise the interest paid to banks on reserves? They could remove liquidity a million different ways
Selling bonds at a discount is inflationary long term
fucking retarded larper acting like he knows shit

>>52647748
It's a chart on remittance payments to the treasury, not the fed's balance sheets. The chart is literally labelled you nigger.

>>52647748
>drain excess liquidity out of the system
like sending trillions to the void via ukraine/ftx scam? Great idea, burning coins

>>52651923
sup brother, see you in the other thread. wagmi

>>52644471
Hello and welcome to the new digital Dollar monetary reform! We know things didn't go so well with the paper dollar! We totally get how printing Money is BAD now. Thats why we're introducing the Digi-Dollar controlled by the federal reserve! No bank account needed, no banks needed! See how we defeated capitalism in one fell swoop?

But I get it, you're not really sure whats going to happen, so we made it simple: Any regular ol' greenbacks you have will be exchanged at a 45USD to 1 DIGI$ ratio up to 35.000 DIGI$ total. above that the rate goes up to 61843USD to 1 DIGI$.

Thank you for doing your part in this new monetary world!

>>52647748
THIS IS FUCKING INCORRECT HOLY SHIT
jumping jesus on a pogo stick the mental gymnastics required to arrive at these conclusions are expert level.
The Fed has destroyed the fucking country! Healthy economies and banking systems don't need QE, Repo or Reverse Repo operations, they don't need special credit facilities and most importantly in a healthy economy all of (YOU) stop pretending you know anything about economics and publish retarded interpretations of the facts!
For the love of god, anybody reading this, please understand that if the Fed keeps rates high with this much debt in the system, public and private, the US will need to default on the debt, or inflate so that it can reduce the debt manually. The debt is NOT being inflated away, it is bigger than ever!!!

The fed can lose money forever. Its meaningless. They just print money while the accumulated "loss" piles up forever. Its just a accounting figure. You idiots are retarded.

It also didn't matter when the fed "made money" because it was just paid by debt from the government. So instead of the national debt piling up, the loses at the fed piles up (called differed asset). It is fucking meaningless, retards.

The deferred asset + national debt is just the total amount of money printed.

>>52654017
"Healthy economies" don't need central banks at all. IOR and RRP are just the latest flavor of ponzinomic tools the fed uses to manipulate interest rates. They are the "solution" to the broken system of fractional reserve banking before 2008. When this system collapses they'll think of a new regime, IF they aren't finally replaced by bitcoin.

>>52654022
>they are printing unlimited money
>Everything is fine nothing ever happens relax
>You idiots are retarded
lmfao

>>52647748
not true but go off king

>>52654114
Healthy economies don't need anything centralized except maybe national defence!!!
The entire purpose of having a US government was to PREVENT it from getting too big; to avoid a power vacuum that would inevitably cause somebody from seizing control like a warlord or noblemen.
This is not capitalism!!! Everyday people, fucking soccer moms that drive their jeeps to open houses to be part time realtors, are now tuning into hear the CHAIRMAN of the CENTRAl bank of the USA talk about interest rates.... that IS NOT CAPITALISM WHAT THE FUCK GUYS.

>>52654124
Yeah its a bad system, but its not like anything changed. Its not like the point at which the fed started losing money is the point things went bad. The problem is consistent excessive and wasteful government spending. When one artifact of accounting crosses 0 is meaningless.

>>52654156
lol I agree, 100%

>>52654179
WAGMI
>>52654165
The problem went from being consistent excessive and wasteful govt spending in 1970's to something way more convoluted and embedded in this thing. The good news is that capital doesn't WANT to leave the USA, but if people go fucking crazy and start wearing red bandanas and talking about Lenin and Marx we're going to starve until we die.

>>52644372
>true interest expense is 111% of tax receipts
>conveniently said after bragging about record tax receipts
>conveniently said as they are begging for MORE money to hire 10 million new irs agents

My finely tuned bullshit detectors says they are fucked and it is over.

>>52644372
Why do these guys never post their short positions?

Now THIS is doomposting.

>>52654249
>The good news is that capital doesn't WANT to leave the USA
The USA is still the least shitty so there is not much place to go.

>>52654249
>The good news is that capital doesn't WANT to leave the USA,
Because US markets are an elaborate ponzi scheme and backed by the biggest military in the world kek.

>>52644433
>bankrupting the Fed
It's bankrupting you. You pay for everything. The fed is just a meme without any responsibility. Fed members are all millionaires and spending your money.

>>52644372
so did this guy make any concrete predictions that already were prove correct? not in a mood for a manifesto

>>52644651
Can't wait to use bullets as the new currency like my cool vidya games.

So lets assume they do pivot to doing QE to infinity. Does that imply that the price of equities and crypto are going to moon?

But doesn't that also mean everything else will get more expensive too. So is the fed just going to crash the market in nominal terms?


I wonder how fast prices of real world assets like food/housing will catch up to the price of equities and crypto...

Does this mean we should load the boat and wait for stocks and cryptos to moon, cash out, and transition into real estate?

>>52644372
Its easy.
We simply wont pay taxes or debts. I withdrew all my money from the bank and keep it in a very secure location. Also, fuck your wagie slave job, I quit. Ill be living rent free and getting at least $20 an hour panhandling in my new under-the-overpass cardboard box.

Fuck kikes.

>>52655894
It might be reminiscent of Weimar, everyone holding stocks thinks they’re getting rich but they’re really getting fucked

>>52649135
Austerity by the feds would be a massive policy win for the GOP. The only way to do it right would be cutting gibs.

>>52646240
>>52648831
Inflationary spiral leads to.... hyperinflation

>>52644372
> two more weeks

>>52655936
You’re so retarded
The GOP started this money printing
Actually JPow printed more with a republican president
You idiots who act like politics are sports teams are missing the point
Both parties are controlled by the same people

>>52647748
Thank you for the input

>>52656226
cope

>>52656226
>Both parties are controlled by the same people
much like sportsball teams

>>52656274
careful you don't write more than 50 words here, bud.

>>52644801
I hold this:
80% Vanguard Global Stock
10% Vanguard Emerging Market
10% Vanguard Global Bonds
Am I ok?

>>52656226
>le “blame one party instead of both” gambit

It’s all so tiresome.

>>52644433
And regular repo. The iron lung of a zombie monetary system based on inflation and endless debt.

>>52644651
i hold yen am i gonna be alright?

>>52656704
You are already dead. It fell off the 100JPY=1USD peg and there's nowhere to go but down since BOJ won't raise interest rates.

>>52644801
I only come on BIZ for threads like this

>>52644372
Why does absolutely fucking no one in the West give a shit about productivity any more?

>>52655909
>Fuck kikes.

Exactly, that's what they fear the most that we stop playing 'the game'

>>52647748
>QE is NOT coming back
Heh, the boomers had to just put the final nail in the coffin for younger generations eh? One last coupe de grace before they exit center stage

>>52655909
>my money

>>52656916
QE has only made young people's lives miserable
if the money supply contracts and then continues to grow at a REASONABLE rate and not QE money printing retardation then you'll live like the boomers did

>>52656992
who cares about that shit, i need my speculative exit pump to 200k bitcoin so I can be a feudal lord

nothing ever happens you doomer faggots

>>52656864
It has become impossible to increase productivity further without undoing all the diversity hires and the state religion forbids that.

>>52655920
>>52655894
But wouldn't all fiat currencies tank when the dollar dies? I wonder which would do best on a relative basis

>>52657145
The ones backed by commodities. Be it oil, gold, food or whatever. The old currencies just have to die first so that they can be reevaluated relative to their actual value instead of in ponzi financialization bucks.

>>52647748
Fucking retard

>>52657145
Would sort of seem that way, that or a new currency will replace its reserve status while it bleeds. This is what happened to GBP.
It depends if people give up on fiat or just give up on a particular flavor of it.

>>52644521
Against*

>>52644801
Space is fake and gay anon <3

so this technically means the US isn't going to collapse right? because some financial advice woman on tiktok told me there's a greater chance of the sun exploding tomorrow than the US collapsing

>>52644503
>she doesn't know

>>52657258
>Bottom signal

>>52644372
>the fed is gonna hike until they "break something"

they break themselves

>>52647748
this. op is probably joking, but it is (in theory) possibly for an op to be this stupid
>>52648318
minor (major) pain in 2023 recession, and then a renormalization leading to ever greater ATHs. the next bull run will continue until the jews fuck it all up again with a fake war or a fake virus or fake home loans or whatever

>>52644712
GET OUT OF CAD

>>52654156
Realtor soccer mum's live off debt, you bet they tune in

>>52656864
> Work hard
> Get paid enough to exist
Fuck that

>>52647748
Incredibly based. All the thirdies started seething. None of them understand how the global financial system works.

>>52657166
> The ones backed by commodities. Be it oil, gold, food or whatever
Good fucking night GBP

>>52644372
hi niggers

i just want to point out the news article being referenced is

>an opinion piece, an editorial

that's it

>>52647748
>The chart shows the Feds balance sheet
No it doesn’t
It’s remittances from the fed to the treasury

>>52645781
Crypto will rug as well
The only things left standing will be commodities, most important for you silver, gold, rhodium, palladium, uranium, and metals in general (buy while you still can)

>>52659720
Ain't buying your rock bag boomer.

>>52660108
There aren't even enough boomer rock bags for everyone anyway.

>>52660918
>he doesn’t know JP Morgan prints silver certificates like fiat
There’s more than enough for everyone

>>52660958
They print paper silver certificates like fiat, but they can't print physical silver, they can't even mine enough of it to keep their stockpile from depleting so fast, they lost 75% from ATH in less than 2 years lmao, since a small number of people started buying it seriously and telling everyone to do it too.

>>52660958
Buyers are wanting the silver delivered to them rather than owning paper derivatives, the trend is that COMEX will run out of available silver mid 2023.

>>52657306
You’re pretty stupid
>>52660993
>>52661038
You idiot’s realize Comex is lying about silver certificates but you trust them still?
No one is stupid enough to buy your manipulated metals
Banks keep metal prices low for a read

>>52661174
You buy the physical to drain comex and trigger a default, which then ends the manipulation and causes a price moon.
No one is suggesting buying a comex certificate.

>>52661174
>You idiot’s realize Comex is lying about silver certificates but you trust them still?
Who said anything about trust. This is a game, it's all about forcing COMEX to show its hand.