/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>52629826
you say that now, but when you can finally afford a little land. you'll want just a little more. and once you can get that, you'll want just like 3 more acres. you know, for extra privacy. and so on and so on til you die miserable and broke

>>52629826
by the time you have those things you will have all the other things you need to play rich people games

then why not be on the other side of the line

You’ll want children. To get children you’ll need a woman. To keep woman you’ll need job.

>>52629844
No, that’s just how you would feel.

>>52629881
>You’ll want children

nope

>>52629844
i don’t consoom or care about anything

>>52629826

this, anything more than $5 million is insanely greedy

with that much money you would have enough for housing, food, medicine and travel and luxury purchase for the rest of your life without working

>>52629895
5 million is literally nothing

>>52629901
This. Can’t even have a good house with that

>>52629908
how? outside la and nyc that’s enough

>>52629901

I would be delighted to have even $1 million

>>52629908

with $5 million cash, just 1% interest gives you $50,000 a year, which is pretty close to median income. Chances are you will invest that money and make a conservative 5% a year return, which would be $250,000

you are insane if you think $5 million is a small amount of money, you could easily live on $50,000 a year.

>>52629919
The only places that matter if I lived in the ancients times I would be in Rome not some hodunk flyover

>>52629935
kek i prefer nature over normies so i’m fine with podunk

>>52629925
50,000 median income? what 3rd world country do you live in?

conservative 5% a year return? buddy the markets are down like 35% this year your return would be negative.

do you have kids or a wife?

>>52629951
>doood my kids and my wife

>>52629951
Median income in the US is around 35k

>>52629951

>50,000 median income? what 3rd world country do you live in?

tell me about the income of your homeland

>>52629826
anon...those things are not enough to stop having to chase money. getting a car, house, and small piece of land is not that hard, but if you haven't banked enough money to not have to worry about money for the rest of your life...you still have to chase it. you can't just walk away from the money game at the humble level you are imagining. everyone over 30 who isn't a complete fuck up has the things you are dreaming of already. its not the end.

>>52629826
In your opinion what is the bar for being considered rich?

>>52629826
>i’d be happy with a small plot of land and small house and a decent car.
Sorry, you missed the boat by not buying real estate before the mass COVID/WFH exodus from cities. Enjoy being a serf until you get rich or we fix the housing market.

>>52630018

I'm 31 and I still live at home

>>52629935
Rome was a shithole, real chads lives in Villas outside it.

>>52629980
>>52629993

the average HOURLY worker in the US makes 60k/year

anything below 60k is poverty in 2022

theres this inflation thing goin around idk if you heard about it but it makes money a lot less valuable

>>52630020
to be actually rich? a nice house in cali with a driveway full of cars, exotic cars, and not worrying about bills.

>>52630027
anon....
>everyone over 30 who isn't a complete fuck up has the things you are dreaming of already.

>>52630043

average is not the same thing as median

median income is more representative of what most people are making because the average is skewed by people with insanely high salaries

>>52630056
>everyone over 30 who was born in the 70s and isnt a fuck up

>>52630056

I have a lot of health problems and the 'tism so it is what it is

>>52630058
What person with an insanely high salary is being paid by the hour?

>>52629901
yeah ok. here they come. stopped reading the thread right here.

>>52630058
it's hourly wages, not counting salaries

>>52630063
kek, this is pure cope. sorry, but go through your yearbook and look up what stage of life your peers are in. 30s is the householder stage. we have kids, a wife, 2 cars, a house, a dog...etc. if you are still living at home crying about how hard the world is...you are the fuck up.

>>52629826
the real reason is survivorship bias. people with an attitude like you rarely get rich. people who do get rich are workaholics. also another thing to consider is that in order to afford property taxes on a million dollars worth of land you need like 3 million in the stock market.

>>52629826
>i’d be fine just getting drunk and growing weed
What age are you? Who the fuck wants to sit around smoking weed after 25? Who the fuck wants to be an alcoholic? Have you even tried MDNA or Ketamine or amphetamine? Now that you want to do that all week either...you see chaild you need money to pay the property tax on the small plot of land and then you have to pay the income tax on thye money you earned to pay the property tax and then you have to pay for health insurance or you die of cancer with no pain killers so you have to pay the income tax on that and then the sale tax. They you need food. They have you. You are someone else's property the minute you develop debt. The very minute

>>52630095
basic math shows you'd have to have top 70% wages to be able to afford a house by 30 bro
im 22 btw if that matters

I thought the average hourly wage would be far less than $32 an hour.
I thought I was finally doing well but turns out I'm just barely average. Damn.

>>52630117
depends on your age
people generally earn more the older they are
if you're in your 20s you're doing fine

>>52630104
to be fair chances are high he is under 18

>>52630043
>private
>nonfarm
>hourly
>average
Why jump through all these hoops when you can just google the median income in the US.

>>52630120
I'm 34.
I spent my entire 20s being a complete loser poorfag with anxiety and depression issues. Didn't snap out of it until I was 30.

>>52629826
>i’d be happy with a small plot of land and small house and a decent car. i’d be fine just getting drunk and growing weed being left alone.
That's precisely why you won't get rich anon. The drive for power and wealth itself is what fires their hearts, not whatever is actually attained with that power. The only exceptions I can think of are inventors who ended up profiting off of their invention, and lottery winners.
Used to have a case of megalomania, when I was a megalomaniac, power and influence naturally gravitated towards me. Covid forced me to shut down and I haven't found a way back to the mania. Hope I will.

>>52630095
what is with old white people and dogs

>>52630113
you are going to teach me math now? I bought my first house when I was 25 (12 years ago)... and believe it or don't, had no money at the time. you are just retarded.

>>52630095

honestly, having a kid and wife sounds like hell

ditto on the mortgage payments too

>>52630146
its a better hell than whatever tf you all are crying about. I know that at least.

>>52630143
the median house is literally 3x as expensive as it was 12 years ago fat nigger

>>52630153

honeslty, no.

I wish I wasn't in constant pain from my health condition, but I don't want a kids and wife.

Do I want to coom in a woman from time to time? sure. But I don't give a fuck about a white picket fence and wife, I'd be happy with an apartment.

>>52630146
dude just have bought a house decades ago then ur mortgage payment isn't 3k a month

>>52630163

I turned 18 in 2009 and I have been neet for most of the past decade due to health issues and autism, it would be cool to afford a house but I'd be happy with just a simple apartment.

>>52630146
incoming the cope

imagine being able to buy a 3 bedroom 2 bath house for 75k like my parents did

>>52630177

kek, everyone yelling at me about how great having a kids and wife is is the real cope

if something is really great you wouldn't give a fuck or start proselytizing if someone went without it

>>52630095
>kek, this is pure cope. sorry, but go through your yearbook and look up what stage of life your peers are in. 30s is the householder stage. we have kids, a wife, 2 cars, a house, a dog...etc. if you are still living at home crying about how hard the world is...you are the fuck up.
Not really, it is not 20 30 years ago. My observation is that a great deal of home owners develop no savings to retire and just re-mortgage and remain debt slaves until they die, the final orgy of re-mortgage being for medical bills. You feel smug and accomplished because you have some shitty building (I do to) and you feel 'grown up' you are at that age where people try having dinner parties and discover they are shit. You think you are the smart one but you are carrying debt behind your fragile smile, credit card debt, property debt, auto loan debt, student debt so here is you future. The child gets sick, the wife develops mental illness or cheat, the redundancy happens, the tax miscalculation, the, kid gets caught with weed or pills and the legal bills start rolling in, the payment on the mortgage does not get made. A lot of this shit will on happen in your 40s 50s. That kid living with its parents will probably be in afar better place than you with your big boy pants but in the end, the odds of escaping misery in both your lives are vanishingly low because it comes in a million predictable forms from cancer to car crashes from arrests to tax defaults to divorce through to fraud, unexpected pregnancy, household fire, addiction, birth defect etc etc. What tells me you are ngmi it though is the smug. That's how I know you are going to get nailed. I'll be there with my red right hand giving you the dream of getting it all back too if only you could get X and I'll have X and you will give me or another demon your soul. That's the way it goes.

>>52630146
How can I get kids without the responsibility of dealing with a wife?

>>52630184

to be fair you have to account for inflation, 75k decades ago had much greater purchasing power

>>52630196
i was on your side

>>52630184
My parents bought my childhood home for 80K. It was on 2 acres, 3 bed 2.5 bath. Was heaven.
They divorced like retards and now my mom lives in a dilapidated strugglehut in a hollowed out 5k population rust belt town and my dad is literally a seething wojak meme paying almost 2k a month for a 1 bedroom apartment near atlanta lol. unreal.

Constant search for safety and comfort.

>>52630206
yeah thats the fucking joke
I'll leave college making 60k a year if im lucky and a house will be 5 times that
but im supposed to own a matchstick box to live in by 30
i cant fucking wait to massacre boomers holy shit

>>52630203

bastards are a thing, anon

>>52630214
it really is unreal just how good our parents had it
and how badly they fucked it up
not a single member of my family in my mom's generation is a property owner, they all rent
inflation has obliterate their purchasing power and their bills take up almost all their money even though they are in their 40s and 50s
unreal, indeed

>>52630214
>They divorced like retards and now my mom lives in a dilapidated strugglehut in a hollowed out 5k population rust belt town and my dad is literally a seething wojak meme paying almost 2k a month for a 1 bedroom apartment near atlanta lol. unreal.
>>52630199
>t. You think you are the smart one but you are carrying debt behind your fragile smile, credit card debt, property debt, auto loan debt, student debt so here is you future. The child gets sick, the wife develops mental illness or cheat, the redundancy happens, the tax miscalculation, the, kid gets caught with weed or pills and the legal bills start rolling in, the payment on the mortgage does not get made. A lot of this shit will on happen in your 40s 50s. That kid living with its parents will probably be in afar better place than you with your big boy pants but in the end, the odds of escaping misery in both your lives are vanishingly low because it comes in a million predictable forms from cancer to car crashes from arrests to tax defaults to divorce through to fraud, unexpected pregnancy, household fire, addiction, birth defect etc etc. What tells me you are ngmi it though is the smug. That's how I know you are going to get nailed. I'll be there with my red right hand giving you the dream of getting it all back too if only you could get X and I'll have X and you will give me or another demon your soul. That's the way it goes.

>>52630207

oops, please forgive me, anon

>>52629826
the more money you have the best looking girl you can rent

>>52630203
>How can I get kids without the responsibility of dealing with a wife?
You then come to be in your 50s or 60s or 70s asking me how to get rid of them because they bully or neglect you or steal from you or are getting released from prison and coming to your house and you are scared. Seen it all before. You will give me your soul. So few of you make it. 1 in one million.

>>52629980
And the poverty threshold for a family of 4 in Califonia is $96,300.

Cause biz is full of degens simple as. For me its stacking bitcoin on my btc core wallet and hodling until its 10 million a coin or being poorfag anyways. I just want enough to afford an airboard like in eureka seven if they ever invent one.

>>52630259
i just want enough money to afford the loli catgirl sex bot when they get made

>>52630199
you are projecting quite a lot. you can complain about how unfair life is and spend forever wishing for something better... or you can work towards creating something better for yourself. By 30, you should have figured out by now that the world isn't going to take care of you and if you haven't gotten off your ass yet, you aren't going to get what you want.
ffs.. the cope in this thread is off the charts. you are imagining my whole story and future. im anon here... that story is you... not me.

>>52630269
i m here anon

>>52630258
look man not everyone wants kids and some bitch around

>>52630058
Yeah, just make yourself feel better by taking all the winners out of your stats. Do you not think they are real people?

>>52629826
say you know how to save the world and you are a very zealous type a personality kind of guy. always looking to win and get your way. you realize you'll need a lot of funds and a lot of manpower(slaves/employees) so you set out to aquire them. them you can implement your grand charity plans. and then you can set up your family for the next 3 generations, perhaps more if they're not dumb.
it's a fight to get the bloodline ahead in life.

you and me always have a very slight chance of dying with no heirs but they have all the stem cells, the apocalypse bunkers and the bodyguards they need to ensure their safety against the fates of common man.

this is mostly rationalizing but also greed is a hell of a drug, and some people just are incredibly unstimulated and miserable in regular normie life if they don't feel like thei achieved something, they won something or took something(money, pride, women) from others. its a healthy drive but also a disease in its very extreme forms

>>52630269
based fellow anime lover. These figure chasers are just SBF wannabes. I'll keep working odd jobs with people I enjoy and being a leech voting for more government.

>but muh net worth wealth
lmfao you arent a chairman of microsoft or apple or an executive at vanguard in this lifetime your net worth is small fry piddly shit tryhard CZ ass lookin' larper.

>>52629826
>why does every rich person just keep chasing money endlessly?
To pay the interest on their debts is the final answer OP. If only you could just make that one payment maybe that thing will come though that will pay it all and you will be free. Except you won't and it will all come crashing down and you will end up covered in piss in a doorway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT1xSceG7O0

>>52630294
even just owning a shack in the woods to plow your sex bot in is rapidly becoming unaffordable for 90% of people
god forbid you have a biohole draining your bank account

>>52630277
Stupid boy. Look at you threading the infinitely small needle. You come and see me when you need a hand...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT1xSceG7O0

>>52629826
its what drives them, they always want a bigger house, a nicer car, or maybe just a legacy. Once you don't have goals or a purpose life quickly loses its meaning. If you had enough money to retire in a nice house with a decent car and just lounged around smoking weed and getting drunk with no goals whatsoever you'd kill yourself

>>52630092
if you've never been there, you can imagine, but you'll never actually know. you have no cause to sit in your ivory poverty tower and dictate how people whose shoes you've never walked in should feel

>>52629826
Because people want more than what they are used to. If you grew up poor, anything more than that is an achievement. Many of those richies are crashed psychologically for having no success compared to their successful parents, even if they are doing rather well in life. As a poorfag I had 1000x more issues than those rich bastards, but I have never had that pressure to do better because of comparing myself to my parents. Because I know even if I end up being an alcoholic homeless, I still wouldn't be a big fuck-up considering the family standards.

>>52630289

are you fucking retarded? median includes all the same samples in the set, you're not excluding anything, read a fucking book.

>>52630289
>We are sharing a board with people who can't understand basic algebra.

>>52630143
god you're just the biggest nigger on biz

>>52630143
Buying a mortgage is not buying a house.

>>52630466
yeah, no shit. paying your landlord isn't either. the difference after 30 years though is significant.
>>52630434
stay poor faggot

>>52629826
>I'd be happy with scraps
not a buy signal but getting close

when you get rich you have to actively defend your money from all sorts of jews trying to take it.

>>52630475
ur probably fat and balding faggot

>>52630475
>paying your landlord isn't either
I didn't claim it was. But claiming you have a house just because you paid 10% of your mortgage is just cringe. Housing is extremely expensive due to corrupted boomers limiting new housing facilities, and you are traitor to your generation for defending this shit when all you have is a loan.

>>52630253
I'd love to bang Grippy.

>>52630285
And most of the people with that attitude live in San Francisco, which is even more expensive. HIV meds aren't cheap.

>>52630548
you can do me once you have 20 billion

>>52629826
The people who don't endlessly chase money rarely become rich.

>>52629901
Every thread crawling out of the wood like termites

>>52630611
enjoy divorce and misery. soon.

>>52629951
kys retard nigger

Because it's not about the money for many, especially the ones that still have cheap cars and shit while rich, but the fact that you have indepence, can tell anyone to fuck off and do things your way.

The others do it because they chase something impossible. For example, if you live in any western country you're better than 99% of the rest of the world, probably your case, and it isn't enough, because that's not what brings happiness. In my opinion that happens when you realize you can do what the first group does, like tell your boss to fuck off if you don't like him without fearing for not paying a debt, going to the store and buying things and not wasting time looking at the price, going on a road trip and not thinking much about the cost. That's freedom for me and you don't need that much but requires long term thinking and having finances in order

>>52629826
Because you don't get rich if you don't chase money endlessly you disgusting poorfag, retards like you should leave this board and go back to r9k

>>52630095
You are up to your neck in mortgages and loans, you are living on debt

>>52629826
weed is nigger tier, rather just smoke cigars and lift weights in my home gym with my national socialist flags hanging up

>>52632668
You sound like a massive faggot.

>>52632287
lol blast your head off angry incel

>>52629826
Its the same with women, money, cars. Once you have it, you get used to it and want more.
When I had nothing I thought I'd retire at $500k.
When I had $500k I just wanted to hit $1m.
When I had $1m I thought $3m would be all I need to retire.
When I had $3m I started doing the math, and thought $5m would be enough.
When I had $5m, I said I just need $5m post-tax now ($7-8m).
When I had $7m, I just wanted to reach 8-digits and call it a day.
Now I'm back to $2m.
> with $5 million cash, just 1% interest gives you $50,000 a year, which is pretty close to median income.
1% is the wealth tax in my country (Switzerland), so theres that. Then 50% capital gains on top, so youll already need $200k so get your $50k a year.

>>52632675
you sound brown. post hands or body

>>52632760
/pol/ needs to burn

>>52629826
>i’d be happy with a small plot of land and small house
so you'll never end up rich, only people who chase money endlessly break out of the middle class

>>52632764
post hands

Well, OP it doesn't always work out. Here's case in proof.

>>52632226
>>52632226
>>52632226
Just as depicted in the Vuvuzela Scrolls...Caroline is getting BLACKED!

>Be comfortable with risk, Caroline. Enjoy the Big Black Mirror Walk of Shame. Baka.

>>52629956
...yes?

>>52632764
yea I'm thinking its brown

>>52632760
You literally are a nigger
You post your nose and I'll post my hands deal?

You also type like a jeet.

>>52632865
look how it squirms when it's called out.

>definitely brown or jeuden

>>52632879
>Definitely brown
Actually a white american something you'll never be faggot.
>Oh my god guys I'm just like Andrew Tate I suck down BBC big brown cigars and I'm a National Socialist! see my flags I also mentioned them in my post so pay attention to me
Like I said you're the biggest faggot I think I've ever seen make a post here and that's saying something.

>>52629826
Rich people aren't chasing money, you might be thinking of the upper middle class. Billionaires do manage their portfolios, but they're not grinding 12 hours a day.

>>52632890
post body, you are either a skinny DYEL fag or a neckbeard reddit moderator

>>52629901
ask me how i know you are a poorfag

>>52629826
>i’d be fine just getting drunk and growing weed being left alone.
Because potheads have no ambition or imagination.

>>52632936
Burden of proof is on you ranjesh.

>I know of someone who wanted 1m, and when they got that they wanted 5m and then died somewhere around their 4th.

Its like a drug. Most people who are rich have to invest all their time to keep it and this keeps them away from what they really want to do. Everything comes with its price. Its important to have a good attitude towards money. Its just for making things happen, you can make things happen without money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urFChdLN6nA&list=LL&index=4

>>52629881
>To keep woman you’ll need job
I know everyone on here is some incel loser virgin besides me but this is hilarious.

>>52630086
A lot of technical workers in offices pull 40-50/hour.

Why is it so hard to find a business partner? I just want to help some small business operate.
Looking at investment groups near me, they offer 5-15K for the best pitches.
I'm willing to offer that amount plus be more involved and mentor. Guess I just have the wrong last name? Not a member of the club so my money is no good.

>>52629826
Silly post. Rich people are rich because they want money. There’s plenty of people living on what they have you’re just not focusing on them

>>52629826
>it’s a real mystery, goy—I mean smith. Doctors baffled. Scientists perplexed. Keep chasing that printed money.

>>52633187
It’s life telling you don’t get a business oartner unless you want to loose it

>>52633240
your mom is loose

>>52629826
Define "rich" and also state in what country you live in. 1mil usd in the US is not the same as 1mil usd in india.

>>52629826
and this is why you're not a millionaire

>>52629892
You say that now, but that attitude changes with time, I promise you. I spent my 20s and 30s traveling and making money. I have money now, and I'm miserably lonely. I date, but there are few women that want a family. Also, I'm basically addicted to work now, I just work. A few nights a week I play in chess clubs and I hike nearly every day with my dog. I write speeches for Republican candidates every few years. Most of the women I meet 'can't believe you're single', until they date you. It becomes apparent real quick. I do my own business' sales and crush it, and I can easily convince a woman to give up the poon, just....starting a family is a something different entirely. I'm hoping one of the zoomer chicks I fuck just gets pregnant one of these days. I want a chance to raise a kid of my own. Don't date single moms anons.

>>52629901
>I NEED $50 MILLION MINIMUM TO SIT ON MY ASS AND PLAY VIDEO GAMES 16 HOURS A DAY FOR 60 YEARS

>>52629826
>YOU WOULD
So would I

Problem is women show up and need your money. Pretty soon you have kids and extended family who depend on you.

>>52629895
Inflation and dividing your estate between children will vaporise that.

>>52629882
>>52629892
People with your mindset just don't get rich. Someone who aspires to be a loser doesn't have the intelligence, drive, or creativity needed to make it.

Various reasons; most stem from either greed or power. Making money obviously feels good, so even when you reach a goal of "If I had $X then I'll be satisfied" your brain still wants $2X. It's basically just pure greed even if you don't really need it. In addition, once you get past a certain threshold of richness it starts to become less about material and comfort and more about power and what you can do with that money. Billionaires don't care about money really, they want power. Once you pass so many millions of dollars it's no longer just about being comfortable and never having to work again. I'd imagine it would seem like this could never happen to you, but when placed into these situations our reptilian instincts consume us from within.

For most people it has to do with daddy issues

“Daddy wouldn’t show me love unless I was good and worked hard!”

Then they act that out for the rest of their lives without understanding why they do it, and because they haven’t done any real introspection they fall prey to the hedonic treadmill and spend everything they make on utterly irrelevant things without it actually making them happier

and then they wonder why they are miserable

>>52633751
i don’t want to be rich you fucking retard can you read. i want a relaxed life.

>>52634207
im miserable because I don't have a cute middle schooler daughterwife
and no amount of money can buy that
at least not any amount of money I can possibly hope to obtain

>>52629901
you could invest 5M into the most sterile boomer shit like JNJ, P&G, CVX, etc and you could easily get an average dividend yield of 3%, and then price appreciation would make sure your folio keeps up with inflation. that’s $150k in passive income. you wont be riding around in mega yachts or private jets, but in what fucking world does $150k in annual passive income not constitute having made it?

>>52630199
Now this is kino. Checked and based

>>52629826
It never ends anon. Once you get your stack, you have to defend it. Inflation never stops, corrupt politicians never stop, taxes never stop, malicious actors never stop; it's a lifelong fight.

You stop engaging with the markets, you lose

>>52630113
I'm 25yo and bought a house in mid 2021 that I rent out to normie 30yo's
I live with parents (next door to my house) and continue to save my 100k salary working from home
No college debt, had scholarship

>>52634346
>bought the literal top of housing
so your parents shelled out 300k for you
unless you multiplied your money on crypto or something its completely impossible for someone a couple years out of college to pay off a house

>>52634357
Rock bottom interest rates 2.15%
My parents refinanced as well and rolled all the debt into our primary home
I live in the hottest area of my State where RE prices haven't dropped at all because of coastie transplants
They didn't help at all for the down payment
On paper, the house is entirely paid off and owned by me.
Cope loser.

>>52634392
>Cope loser
why do you come here to larp

>>52634410
It's not a larp
It's fun bragging to get (you)'s from seething betas
I'm not a jew either, about to volunteer at my church in an hour

It's amazing how threads like these show how many assholes on here don't understand the value of money. They've probably never worked a day in their lives and/or live rent free in the basement of hotel mom.

>>52630384
This is very true, never thought about it.

>>52630289
Median salary is representative of the tip of the bell curve. Median weekly wage is $1070 or $55k annual. Takes into account layoffs. So half of all people make less and half of all people make more. Average takes into account the extreme ends of the tails of the bell curve which skews perception, they are essentially outliers.

You should learn statistics.

>>52629826
To get that rich you need to gain a skill, and most people that are skilled enough to get rich aren't going to quit practicing their skill just because they hit some arbitrary dollar amount. They're in it for the love of the game at that point.

>>52629826
Because they are full of nothing but greed. Prosperity doesnt bring satisfaction, in fact it brings just the opposite, and their sins will find them out to be sure. They have destroyed the earth in the pursuit of riches, not being satisfied to simply survive. No, we had to have "currency", and etc etc. You will all burn in hell for the raping of the natural resources God entrusted us to ensure for later generations. Thanks kikes and boomers

I think it's because on one hand, wealth needs to be maintained and on the other hand, it frees you up to do actually do things, and as a business leader, you naturally feel some sort of sense that you should do those things, like how the eldest brother involves himself in family affairs, or a father does the work around the house that needs to get done.

Ironically the people that think "I need $Xmm and then I will be satisfied" are the shallow greedy ones because they only think about how they can just sustain themselves and consume until the end of their days. People that actually make things happen in the business world get paid as a side effect of the value they create.

>>52629826
Fear. Fear that the state will tax them some how, even though it never happens.

>>52630199
/thread
All it takes is one bad minute for your perfect, meticulously planned-out life to come tumbling down and with it 30 years of effort are wiped out in a flash. Buddhists are right, if your attached to anything then its over for you because you're going to lose it. If you can't stand to watch yourself lose everything you've ever worked for and still barely flinch then you're ngmi in this life. In the old days everyone understood this which is why people were able to carry on when half their families would die in a war or famine or such.

>>52634870
do most of these guys actually create value? Or are they just deceiving people to think they need x item/service?

>>52635304
that's a blurred line, i'm sure there's a lot of useless grifters out there but don't hate the player hate the game

>>52630199
>you are at that age where people try having dinner parties and discover they are shit
Honestly I think that whole normie family lifestyle is just something women want and men go along with. It can't possibly be something nobody wants at all and yet we're all somehow tricked into living it, right?

>>52636226
nah I'll hate both. It's a rigged game fueled by sociopaths

>>52636307
that may be, not an excuse to not get rich though

>>52636359
why should someone get rich? I'm good with being a financially free NEET. Freedom to do whatever you find exciting is worth more than endlessly pursuing money.... for what? to impress your peers? to get gold diggers? I wasn't neglected by my parents, so I don't care for that shit. I also grew up poor as hell and was the only person in my family to graduate college (in STEM), so I've already exceeded whatever I used to feel insecure about. I can afford everything I enjoy and am on track to retire sometime in my 30s with a modest lifestyle

>>52629826
All I want for is to pay off my mortgage early… need about 20k then I’ll have all 150k and I’m gonna pay thst shit off and chill

>>52633751
>wanting to own your own property and not answer to anyone is "aspiring to be a loser"
INSECURE POORFAG ALERT
INSECURE POORFAG ALERT
WEE WOO WEE WOO WEE WOO
GUESS WHO WILL NEVER BE HAPPY UNLESS PEOPLE VALIDATE HIM AND HIS MATERIAL WEALTH ITS YOU WEE WOO WEE WOO WEE WOO

Because nothing is ever enough. And if you're a retard like most of us here you'll burn through a few mln faster than you realize and you'll be in an Oh Shit situation that can only be remedied by making more money somehow.

>>52636767
you can't support a family, you can't make a change in the world, you are going to live consume and die

>>52629826
Rich people are spoiled brats and fried their dopamine receptors so they have to BINGE everything.
What would be a great day of smoking pot and swilling beer makes rich people upset because others aren't upset like them.

>>52629844
>CONSUME MORE.
Goy Slop Americans are the worst.
Nah, I am not dropping a quarter of a MILLION USD to live in nigger jew clown world when SEA is legalizing weed.
THE ONLY reason to live in mutt land is the firearms but even then it aint worth it.

>>52629871
>play rich people games
Keeping up with the Jones is the lamest shit ever, giver balls a tug, fag.

first, people just try to survive (poorfags, 3rd worlders), if their survival isn't threatened anymore they seek happiness (normies) because they aren't happy, once someone is happy or at least have this baseline level of dopamine that supports constant contentment and happiness, only then they can strive for success
>I just want to live meagerly all my live at the poverty level and not to work to develop my mind, is that too much to ask?
it's clear on what level anons who talk like this are

>>52633166
I banged 50 women, yes that involved alot of amphetamines.
As a brown man I have personally blasted a nut on multiple blonde hair, blue eyed women.
But yes, you need money to keep a women.

>>52633240
>unless you want to loose it
My fucking Good God.
L O S E.
Not "loose" you fucking nut.

>>52633240
>unless you want to loose it
My fucking Good God.
L O S E.
Not "loose" you fucking nut.
>>52633687
I want 50 million dollars so I can build machine guns, cook meth and bang barely legal teenage puss puss.
Fuck your fucking bing bing wah hoos, I play games because this fucking country is so fucking boring.
Can't get laid nor paid in this fucking shithole.

>>52634207
Daddy fags are the worst, my dad lived down the block from me my whole life, never met the fucker, couldnt care less, he told my Gran he was surprised I turned to such a CHAD.
Yeah, turns out spoiling your kids just makes em weak.

>>52634303
>you could invest 5M into the most sterile boomer shit like JNJ, P&G, CVX, etc and you could easily get an average dividend yield of 3%, and then price appreciation would make sure your folio keeps up with inflation. that’s $150k in passive income.
Or? Or? Here me out? Not invest the 5 mill and just fucking keep the 5 mill and not be a fucking spend thrift.
Do you niggers really need more plastic shit filling up your plywood box of a "home".

>>52634870
>People that actually make things happen in the business world get paid as a side effect of the value they create.
Okay, trust fund.
Maybe stop being a fucking faggot and your dad wont call you a pussy.

>>52637276
Pure cope, go get laid and watch a sun set, you fucking Netflix watching goy slopper.
The Jews are right about you nerds.

>>52637390
this is me getting laid while you're shitposting in poverty

lots of angry bitter old incels in here. rotting away trying to drag others down with their PSL talking points.

>muh dont get married
>muh dont get a house
>muh dont have kids

do not listen to these miserable faggots. they're fucking losers that gamble with ponzi crypto bullshit (see: all crypto). find something youre passionate about and make it a business.

>t. has an amazon business, wife, house on 2 acres, kids eventually

the fuck else are you gonna do? wait around and be sad? complain about jews on 4chan having the same convo every day? fix your shit

>>52637374
Hail victory, that is my goal in life.
I do not care about your faggot fucking opinion, you keyboard warriors.
Go kneel to a nigger, mutt...
Oh, P.S, Jews own your country.

middle class life (ugly wife, stupid ugly kids) are slaves life
kings have harem and just pump and dump all days, rich successful people are modern day king

>>52629951
doesnt matter what happens to the principle the dividends keep rolling in
>t. 8th generation dividend aristocrat

>>52637341
Please don’t have kids.

>>52637433
based green id of truth and hope

cockroaches are happy if someone dump waste food garbage in the sewer, free food, what a heaven the cockroaches say
>what I want is rotting free food dumped on my sewage, is that too much to ask?
eagles aren't happy unless they soar the sky
you're a cockroach, I'm an eagle

>>52637414
Did you really post a pic of yourself fucking a mid asian girl?

>>52629826
Survivorship bias, a lot of rich people DO stop chasing money, you just don't hear about them because they are quietly enjoying their small plot of land with small house and decent car.

>>52637414
Yeah, notch count at 50, that guy is not you, fat boy.

>>52637619
check the pic on the wall

>>52629826
let these trips be a sign that you will get what you want but only if you buy XLM. It has been chosen.

>>52637197
>you can't support a family, you can't make a change in the world
I already help my parents/brothers on a regular basis, which helps the world a little bit. I also help out a few groups for dog shelters/kids with autism sometimes on the weekends, prob will do it full-time once I'm retired. If I have more than enough money, I'll build out my own family, or help my cousins/kids in the community without good families
>you are going to live consume and die
same as everyone

>>52629844
can't say i share that sentiment, and i made money
i had a much, much greater sense of urgency when i was in 5 figures
with the way money is created, i must say i'll never understand why anybody gives a shit

the cockroaches multiply, the cockroaches mutter "generational wealth" while eating the garbage, I'm happy and I'm reproducing, this is the meaning of life
a planet of smelly, ugly, bitter cockroaches, that's what their aim
the purpose of life is to be beautiful and successful, it's not to be ugly and stupid and multiply uncontrollably like niggers
do you know that the higher the income the less likely someone is to reproduce? so is the higher the education, so is the higher the standard of living, so is the opposite, look at africa
reproduction is a desperate attempt to pass your gene because you're about to die, only your death is meaningless because you didn't achieve any success in your life, reproduction is for losers

>>52637851
Why don't you just reproduce enough so you can spread non shitty people? It isn't hard to balance your ambitions and maintain a family if you actually tried.

>>52629826

Because, you are not a psychopath, you are similar to me.

You would literally be my ideal neighbor. We both own little ranch homes, on a couple acres of land, out in a rural area. We leave each other alone most of the time, but maybe every now and then I invite you over for a beer by my campfire. I'm totally fine with you growing weed. In my spare time, I make homemade wine, and bring some over for you to try.

All I want it this. But, other people are not like us OP. They have an insatiable thirst for power that can never be quenched. All they care about is control, money and power.

>>52629826
I know this won't be taken well but my hope is that someone who sees this understands my struggle and could help raise a hand to lift me out of darkness, I'm unhealthy I don't know exactly but I'm only twenty six years old and can't seem to get through a single day without crippling pain, my family doesn't believe me or care the state won't help without a proper diagnoses and I can't see a doctor because I don't have insurance, the ER just gives me pain medicine to help but just refer my to a specialist that requires insurance.
If anyone has the means to be able to assist me in getting enough to pay for insurance for a couple months so I could get my foot in the door you would be my hero for the rest of my life, I've tried the site we all hate and was quickly revoked any access to posting for help.

I'd do charity sites but I'm a total autist with no friends or social media so nobody even viewed my page when I would make it.

Thank you friends for taking the time if you actually read this far and i genuinely hope you all have a good week, I know mine has been just awful.
If you choose to help I have an ETH and BTC address I figured this would be the best route if someone could if it's not a good way let me know, I can't thank you enough for any help at all.
0x8E91a40DE28488256F35c6A1F9596F392990F080
Or
bc1qasa80p9ydzfq9tqa5zr804t37qm0nqr7sjggav


I just want to give up now.

>>52638022
the instinct to reproduce is from your subconscious realization that you're a loser so you need to spawn somebody else to try again, get it?
again the purpose of life itself is to achieve beauty and success (not necessarily money), the more you have achieved success the more you fulfill the purpose of life, THE LESS DESIRE YOU WILL HAVE to spawn somebody else to do what you've failed to achieve
it's happening subconsciously, it's like some people like goyslop others are disgusted by it, some people desperately want to reproduce some others see no need for it
if the world lacks people then i'd take that responsibility to reproduce, in reality the cockroaches are multiplying uncontrollably, they keep crying why can't I just have this and that at the expense of others, the cockroaches are ruining the planet

>>52638108
I am declaring war. The grapevines will be mine.

>>52638249

I just buy the juice from a winery, in gallons.

>>52629826
At some point money means nothing, you can do anything you want to anyone you want, you can have anything you want, and it gets boring if you don't know how to live life properly and many of these people who are hyper successful are hardwired to not know how to leave that life.
Their life goal is to see how far they can go, to essentially find their "high score" before they die

>>52638266
Fine, then you shall pay me winegeld as tribute to stave off my attacks

>>52638409

How about we just have a bottle by the fireplace anon?

>>52629826

>>52629901
It's enough for me :)

>>52630277
you got owned hard anon, time to call it quits

>>52629826
>why does every rich person just keep chasing money endlessly?
You don't become rich by being a stay-at-home do nothing loser. You have to take risks, and work hard to make good money.

>>52629826
Being rich doesn't mean they're smart. Most wealth is the result being born to the right people in the right place with a pinch of luck. Stupid people can't appreciate existence or create hobbies beyond consuming. Rich people become.obsessed with the numbers in their bank accounts because their stupid monkey brains get a dopamine rush with how high they can make the number go, while they waste their existence still going into the office or trying to instill political puppets and worrying about scams instead of just being a beach king banging instamodels and owning an entire building of top tier penthouses right on the shore to party in and pursue their passions in.

>>52637519
redpill me on dividends, friend

>>52638126
Random angel here,
You either have mercury toxicity from dental fillings, extreme candida infection, parasites(yes even in america some people get them), food intolerances, autoimmune issues, thyroid issues etc.

Having extreme fatigue out of nowhere isn't normal, something is wrong with you.
Normal doctors won't help you. At the very least, stop eating gluten and casein, nigger.

give me your disc addy for more

>>52629881
>rich
>job

Pick one

>>52637276
>>52637414
>>52637466
>>52637582
>>52637629
>>52637851
>>52638135
>the purpose of life is muh heckin coom. I should know, I have the watch that shows up when I Google "which Rolex should I get?" Seethe, cockroaches.

>>52639827
>look at me i'm poor and have an opinion, if you agree with my opinion and do what I tell you, YOU CAN BE A POOR MISERABLE BITTER INCEL JUST LIKE ME, isn't that great? haha..r-right?

>>52638126
this guy is a fucking scammer
If he was really sick, he would have responded to my post trying to help him

>>52629826
That us why they are rich and you are poor. You literally answered your own question but your mongoliod IQ prevented you from understanding yourself.

>>52633687
This but unironically

>>52633674
I'm in my middle 30s, KHHV and content with my life.
There was a sudden uptick of horniness just before my 30th birthday & for the first time I fapped and yearned for pregnant porn. But then it suddenly vanished after I reached 32. Hormone is a strange thing I guess.

In the end, I know I'll die alone & I'm okay with that. Actually I always know I don't want to die surrounded by family like in the movie (it always seems awkward to me)

>>52629901
you are literally my autistic 32 year old brother. let me guess you never had a job and leech off your mother.
>just kys

>>52640760

>>52637414
Post more of her, she looks cute

>>52634218
He's right though, and I don't say that to put you down. Those with the desire to take the money and relax typically don't make it and wage for life (unless they inherit). Those who do make it are usually sociopathic grinder types who never have enough.

Yes, money really is wasted on those with the means to acquire it.

>>52629826
I know a guy who just wanted a small plot of land away from the city, and general self sufficiency. Unfortunately, he's a dumbass, so it took him until almost the age of 70 to finally retire there.

I know another guy who lives it up, but finances everything and is terrible with understanding risk. Constant lawsuits. Even though he has a fair amount of money, he can't use it wisely.

I have plenty of money and could technically retire, but it would be boring. I just left a cozy and high paying job for one with more interesting work, smart people to talk to, etc.

It's all relative. Hopefully you aren't stupid, it'll just take time.

>>52629895
This post simply won’t age well

>>52630320
>>52630306
>>52630256
>>52630236
>>52630199
>>52630104
>>52630104
Dangerously based wise-retard. The kinds of posts you come to /biz/ for.

>>52629826
>why does every rich person just keep chasing money endlessly?
If you have to ask this question, you'll never be rich.

>>52637355
That 5M will end up devaluing until it only buys 1 condo if you leave it alone for decades.

>>52639133
Maybe he doesn't want your bullshit scam ranjesh

>>52642514
>That 5M will end up devaluing until it only buys 1 condo if you leave it alone for decades.
This only affect newfags who leave their assets in banks, i will rather have it in stables on Aave or Curve earning yields to beat inflation.
To stay on the safer side, i don't mind using tools like SpoolFi to diversify the hell out of the funds.

>>52634303
>an average dividend yield of 3%
>3%
bitch my savings account gets 3% ibonds are better than this trash.

>>52634218
Based as fuck.

>>52634218
>relaxed life
Tell me you've never lived on actual land before without telling me.
You'll be whining inside of a week from the chores alone.

>>52643335
Small apartment with a huge stock portfolio and a gold/BTC stash is peak comfy

>>52643942
Gold in apartment is asking for trouble.
Nice condo somewhere near a city but far enough away where you're 5 figurative minutes from farmland is ideal.

I'm glad I saw this thread today. I will now leave biz. Yikes.

>>52629901
>literally
That does not mean that you think it means.

>>52640760

>>52630199
holy fuck. Pure kinography. Which supervillain monologue is this?

>Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!

>>52630199
>you are at that age where people try having dinner parties and discover they are shit
lmao what a self report

>>52645593
This is basically it.

>>52637414
>normal bmi
definitely not an American poster

>>52643335
i've lived 25 miles away from society for 12 years now, stop projecting your insecurities onto others

Same reason people play video games and try to level up endlessly. What else are you going to do in life?

> why do the people who always want more money get more money
Are you stupid or something?

>>52638567
this dude died horrifically and lost everyone that cared about him after getting money/power. Not sure why people post this quote unironically

>>52648015

Because it's concise and explains why men do everything they do

>>52629826
because of inflation and taxes the twin millstones the commies use to grind you into oppression

>>52630095
>providing for your boss and a roastie and her kids is being normal

yeah pussy and wage laves should think twice before tlaking

>>52648056
yeah, maybe dumbasses. Anyone with any awareness realizes most people today would benefit from avoiding shit instead of piling "goals" on their plate and pursuing them superficially
People fall into this shit because of random grifters, talking heads, celebrities, etc picked up by brainless internet/TV consumption

>>52648841

Benefit how? Most of us just start to rot if we aren't chasing things.

>>52629826
>>52629888

>>52648863
wow this board really is dead. doggonormoids have bounced out. yet the demoralization posts continue.

>>52648856
big difference between chasing things for status and chasing what you genuinely find fun/exciting

>>52639984
I'm hot and have a hot gf, you'll never have a gf at that you didn't pay for because you never stop working. You'll be on r9k wondering what you're doing wrong since you make $250k+/yr and have your shit together without ever having considered making TIME for relationships in the first place, all while seething at families making 100k combined because they're somehow happier than you.

>>52638135
Most people are incapable of achieving any works of art that will remain with humanity forever, do you know why? Because said geniuses don't breed, if you're smart enough to create works of art it's a moral duty to copy paste your talent so it lasts. Best part is, that should be trivial thing to do for a superior intellect.

>>52629844
I seriously wouldn’t. I’d be happy with just enough so that I wouldn’t need to work ever again. I wouldn’t change my lifestyle even if I won the lottery.

>>52629892
Everyone and I do mean everyone that I know with kids is miserable and hate their families.

>>52647377
But you find the time to hike into town to shitpost on 4chan.

>>52650469
>what is satellite
>what is hotspot
>what is an office

>>52630043
They include salaried employees in this to you mongoloid. They just take a good earnings and divide by 2080 to get an hourly rate.

>>52640358
Hilarious a jeet scammer calling a white guy a scammer typical /biz/

>>52649164
>>52637466

>>52629826
when you're rich its easyer to get richer.
the world isn't fair, banks will land money to rich people on a whim, but if you're broke banks will spit on you

>>52629826
Thats why you are not rich

>>52629826
I will get to live the life I want once I hit my make-it stack on Loop DEX. Once JUNO hits 100x in the next bull run, that will give me enough money to spend more time with my family considering how heavy my bag is.

>>52630259
How about adding some good Cosmos gems to that. They will give you faster returns than Bitcoin. Wgmi