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i couldnt deal the absolute headache it was to get a new battery, wouldnt charge fully, sold it for a KIA

Charging infrastructure is still shit, although it's getting there, I'm seeing a lot more superchargers pop up at major gas station chains along the interstates.

I'd consider an EV if I didn't live in an apartment complex currently, have no way to charge it.

>>52616674
Newer apartments are starting to be built with EV charging stations

>>52616685

For sure, but even when I see charging stations at apartments or offices it's usually only a handful at the most. Going to be a while before the infrastructure will be available to support most people on the road driving an EV.

>>52616685
>>52616695
My complex has a couple of chargers, but they aren't super chargers. I usually see the same few cars parked there days at a time, and the chargers are by the office and not the actual apartments.

>>52616636
How did your battery die? Was it a nissan Leaf?

>>52616674
I agree it's not perfect. But I just drove from SA across NSW entirely for free using NRMA supercharger network, and one council 11kw tesla charger.
It just requires a bit of trip planning.

>>52616685
At home electricity prices I hope. Home charging is dirt cheap and you just top up over night.

>>52616732
>parked there days at a time
Shit cunts

>>52616452
You are going to die in a lithium fire when the battery shorts from water intrusion and experiences thermal runaway. You won't be able to open the doors when this happens. Do not drive an EV through water.

>>52616806
Lol. Hello again. See >>52615420

>>52616887
>akschually you can disassemble the door while on fore and pull a -ACK

>>52616974
That's not a model 3.
Model 3 has a manual release in arm rest like all other cars.

>tfw getting another free tank of 'gas'
Feels good

>>52616685
even newer buildings usually only have maybe 4-5 ev charging spots and then its just a normal parking lot. maybe in the next generation of buildings they will fully integrate EVs into them instead of just shoehorning them in as an afterthought.

ive noticed that people with EVs never stop talking about them
ive seen pencil neck nerds turn into "car geeks" overnight after buying an EV

>>52616452
sadly teslas have become the new age bmws its a car for douchebags and faggots

>>52617386
my fist car was a V8 muscle car that I rebuilt. Far from a pencil neck or nerd kek.

Only the high IQ know why I'm posting about tesla :)

Tesla's a stupidly expensive for what they are now that there are competing EVs in the space from other companies. There are just as good cars at much lower prices.

>>52617408
I have to admit, I hate them being associated with soi hipster faggots. But the pros outweigh the cons.

>>52617448
>There are just as good cars at much lower prices.
Such as?

The lucid is probably the closest competitor spec for spec, and it's way more expensive.
The leaf is junk as is the chevy bolt.
Hyandi and kia aren't as good as tesla.
The mach e select? Slower, less range than base model 3.

But competion is good. I hope companies can out do tesla.

You faggots act like these cars are really the future lmao
>brake fluid
>transmission fluid
>gear oil
>electrical grid powered by coal
>rubber tires(lmfao)
>insanely awful mining
>terrible battery recycling process
Literally another money grab scam to fool le science enjoyers

>>52616452
I too have driven through puddles in my car

Saw these on side of road.
Thought of you

>>52616452
>OG car
2-3 minutes to refuel
Can carry gallons of fuel to use for cheap in emergency case
>Tesla 'car'
3-5 hours to recharge
Very expensive to have another battery as spare parts in emergency case

>>52616452
If shitty 30 minutes charge times and horrible infrastructure aren't enough to make you stay away from evs then you're just some faggot doesn't value their time and love having gay status symbols. If you care about actual utility and gas mileage then a Prius is what you'd use.

Anybody that thinks electric cars are the future, and not alternative forms of fuel to burn in ICE cars has fallen for the ultimate midwit trap.
>t. knower

i remember 10 years ago when seeing one of these things was kind of a neat novelty
now they're just as fucking prevalent, if not more so, than toyota god damn camrys where i live
very fun to drive but god damn i cant wait till the market is less saturated with these things

>>52616452
>No fuel costs
wrong
>No servicing
wrong
>Loads of free charging
wrong
>Hold their value extremely well
wrong

>>52619061
Well day to day, you just charge at home and wake up to a full battery. No waiting

Being forced to stretch your legs every 4 hours on a road trip really isn't so bad. Grab some food, drink, and your back on the road in 30min.

>>52619130
I just did did 2000km without paying a cent.
There is no engine servicing to be more specific (the main maintenance cost)
Cheapest telsla in my country last time I checked was a 2019 and it was only $2k bellow retail.

All true for my country, maybe not yours..

>>52617346
oh you won't murder them this way anymore with your retarded designs.
how many iterations until it becomes a normal car, and doesn't kill you?

They're great. And you should get one if you can. The truth is that 95% of drivers still can't afford them and the infrastructure to charge that 95% will be non-existent for decades no matter how much esg bullshit people try to shove down everyone's throats. I would gladly rock a Tesla if I had the money to burn. Tesla's still use brake fluid and tires though so they still pollute. Ideally we would have more commuter rail and streetcars but the cities will collapse soon anyway once the diesel runs out.

>>52616452
Every car after 2030 is mandated to have an internet connected kill switch built into the engine.

>>52620646
aka you're gonna crash on the freeway after you tweet wrong think
google. biden passed the bill

>>52620646
Every car built after 2030? I don't doubt it.
I still commute in a 2004 Honda shit box and I am about to put a rebuilt engine in it just roll it for another 18yrs. That's the fucking /biz/ move. My per mile cost is maybe 12 cents.

>>52620690
https://hothardware.com/news/bidens-infrastructure-bill-mandatory-backdoor-car-kill-switch
All cars after 2026 have a mandatory internet connected killswitch made readily available to law enforcement at all times.

As soon as they ban guns they are going to start killing everyone.

>>52620707
But they already started killing everyone with fent and the clot shot. And the cartels are already killing hundreds a day with guns. The gun bans are simply to prevent taxpayers from protecting themselves. Law enforcement is only there to keep score.

>>52616452
Why do Americans can't into assembling cars right ?

As a sidenote, you also don't have the right to try to open or disassembly electronic parts like the key or Tesla will blacklist you.

>>52620744
>And the cartels are already killing hundreds a day with guns
source or troll.

>>52620766
They're built in California. You should see what the average Californian looks like and you'll understand the quality issue.

>>52620785
They have the tech ready to move forward with total extermination.
The one hundred million American gun owners are the only thing stopping them from moving ahead.
China has finished it's brain computer interface experiments on their muslim population and is ready to move their people into surgery camps for conversion. The only reason they don't is they don't want to shock the 100 million american gun owners into a combat ready state.
Once americas guns are gone we can move ahead with the BCI surgery camps.

>>52620780
Whatever Pollyanna. You have no idea how fucked up things are in the cities. It's open warfare in the streets and the news doesn't even report on it half the time. 200,000 Chinese fentanyl deaths/yr is a widely acknowledged number and that works out to about 500/day in any case.

>>52616452
I wouldn't own one or any other EV.

>>52620804
They keep deleting threads I post in.

Id rather have an ioniq 5 or a polestar 3. But ill be honest the cars are to expensive for me since my City has a good public transport (albeit full of plebs and gypsys)

>>52618437
You driving on the wrong side dude watch out

>>52617430
>t. low iq

The best part about my model 3 performance is humiliating faggots driving Porsches or high-end Mercedes and BMWs. Sometimes I even give them a headstart to make it more painful.

>>52620923
>hacks your car

>>52620690
>I still commute in a 2004 Honda shit box
Non-internet connected cars will be priced out through raising insurance rates.
"We are not banning guns, you just have $10k excise tax!"

>>52620999
>car insurance
Oh so they're gonna stop giving illegals driver's licenses then?

>>52621022
doesn't matter: you have something to lose so you will buy car insurance. they don't :(

>>52620999
>Sir the fact that the cops can't kill your engine while you're on the highway is a serious safety risk so we need to raise your rates from 1200 a year to 25000.

>>52621033
>Sir, I understand you are exercising your right to have an individual consciousness but that is against our policies so we are gonna have to put you in a concentration camp.

>>52621042
I'm not in Canada.

>>52616452
They need to fix the battery issue, like 3 years ago. It's unironically a timebomb waiting to go off, crashing Tesla. If I buy a 10 year old used car for 4k dollarinos, I might need to spend another grand or two to get it up and running. If I buy a 10 year old Tesla I need to spend 30k for a new battery. That alone should scare anyone owning a Tesla, Tesla stock.....

>>52621090
Doesn't matter, Tesla doesn't need to be market competitive because they are going to outlaw the competition.

>>52616452
retard aussie faggot, your tesla was made in china kek. and you paid far more than what a US made tesla 3 is worth..

>>52621050
The fact is, electric cars are cool, but the "oppressed" class that gets all the low wage jobs, gibs, and low cost housing are never gonna be tooling around in anything but used cars with 100k miles or more that leak every fluid and are uninsured. So all of this utopian jawboning about the green revolution is delusional lipstick on the pig which is the society their immigration policy created. These lawmakers will basically have to include carve outs for construction workers and landscapers or they'll have to mow their own fucking yards and build their own she sheds. Neither of which is ever gonna happen.

>>52621157
>take the guns
>throw everyone in jail
>lmao who cares what car they use they are in jail.

>>52620923
>Having a car with higher acceleration
>Humiliating others
Autofags are so retarded

No fuel prices! (Because electricity is free)
No servicing! (Until your battery explodes)
Hold their value extremely well(until you need to replace the battery for 25k)

I have an electric company car because I could place a charger at my house and have a fuckoff amount of solar panels to charge it for free, but anyone living in a city or appartment is gonna have a bad time. If they can even afford an EV at all.

>>52621311
>electricity is free
did you get your solar panels for free?

>>52621179
Michael Burry is ALL IN on private prisons.

>>52621338
No but I have so much electricity and any excess is going to the grid and is effectively wasted anyway.

>>52621338
No, but the roi on them is less than 4 years in Belgium. With latest price hikes that's sub 2

>>52621385
>>52621388
i am happy to see my copper investments pay off

>>52621422
And I'm glad I got panels before this energy shitshow started. Price has 4x'd in this shithole.

>>52621472
>Price has 4x'd in this shithole
i am happy to hear that

>>52617346
Model 3 is the poorfag model, that's why you get mechanical door handles. They probably fail after 100 pulls. Always keep a glassbreaker in your car.

>>52621247
Do you think someone buys a Porsche to drive slow?

>>52617770
you never felt obliged to make a social meedja video and multiple posts celebrating the fact, you never burned to death in the process tho. You, Sir, are no Tesla driver.

>>52616452
I own a rivian and lost 5% of the battery in 2 days because it's cold outside and it auto heats the battery to avoid damage.

This means you can't take your EV to the airport, can't take it on road trips, can't take it cold camping, etc.

The best part about electric cars is going 0-60 in 3.5 seconds in a truck that weighs 7,500 pounds

It's a total novelty

>>52617346
SO its only in the (moar!) expensive model Teslas you slowly burn to death in, trapped toasting after a minor bump?
Maybe Elon should introduce a multi-colored tick system. That'll fix it.

>>52620923
That faux wood is fucking awful. Cheap cheap cheap.

t. Taycan turbo

>>52623482
real wood is the last thing you need in a Tesla.

Electric motors are based but you have to be a brainlet to drive a car that locks you inside when it catches fire.

>>52623522
>he trusted Musk

>>52623531
>and now he a Husk

Road trip complete.
Back home.

>>52620881
Kek, hey dear..

>>52620707
That's fucked.
Just like we flash roms, well have to start flashing car ECUs. At the very least remove the sim.

>>52622868
Most often no but where's the humiliation part. Do you buy a car only for its acceleration and speed and do drag races with it?

>>52622868
I think they buy them because they are going through a mid life crisis.

>>52620873
As the sub-proximital orbital tilt of the planet is actually diametrically reversed when considered from a given polarity, the roads of Australia indeed can appear as though traversed in an inverted directionality.

>>52616452