/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>52610430
Shiny rock tongue my anus

>>52610441
Ass related silver isn't a bad idea. I'd like ass on one side, and tits on the other. Then I'd look at my wife a long time and say
>what's the most you've ever lost in a coin toss?

How oversold is paper gold? Factor of 100? 1000?

>>52610551
>Paper to Gold Ratio Now
>The number of paper Gold ounces traded on the major world Gold exchanges divided by the actual world production of Gold (in ounces)
usdebtclock.org

>>52610471
It's stunning when you see a kilo of gold going for $130,000. It really makes you consider that outside of providing you with services and consumer goods, this capitalist country is actually dogshit in providing people with actual capital. $100,000k is a lot of money, but when visualized in physical form it's really not all that much. I feel the need to sit back and reflect on this, as I feel like the larger the quantity of gold the more absurd it starts to feel. Even one ounce of gold is extremely expensive relative to how many hours of work needed to buy one ontop of paying all of your other bills.

>>52610617
Damn. I still remember when paper to gold ratio was something like x8 and people were freaking out back then. I have 2 ounces of gold, I guess that will make me rich.

How rarted is buying Germania Mint bars? I just like how they look...

Also, APMEX is doing hourly deals as if they need any more site traffic for a website that can't even sell anything.

>>52610642
Buying my first ounce of gold and feeling the satisfying but ultimately fairly light weight in my hand was what made me realize that fiat currency is an absolute joke. I recommend anyone stacking silver to get themselves at least one gold coin or bar. There's a moment when you stare at it where the entire history of finance between 1913 and today flashes before your eyes and you can never really go back. I used to hoard paper money but losing thousands simply to inflation in the last two years opened my eyes. Don't let the fudders get to you bros, we won't be millionaires when it all collapses but we will be relative to the other poor goyim

>>52610708
I was surprised by how heavy it was, smaller than a coin, heavier by far.

just picked up a 10g gold at sd for spot, after getting fucked by ampex
feels good

>>52610708
I think you are correct. The dollar system was procuring a seemingless endless supply of goods to buy/sell from abroad that definitely warped everyone's view of what an economy actually is. The financialization of our economy was done partially for the needs of the rest of the world needing more dollars to transact and buy oil, and in doing so there is a balloon full of hot air we are all sitting on while all of these financial intruments are sloshing around. If the world stops sending us boatloads of cheap goods, we still see that "capital units" such as gold are still quite expensive relative to the other types of consumer goods available. Outside of being a consumer, we really aren't all that wealthy unless you are able to lock in paper-ponzi profits.
In terms of conceptualizing actual finance, I believe it is correct to see PMs as "wealth" and not an investment. My stock portfolio is an investment, my cash is cash. PMs are something no one can take from me and can not be confiscated via inflation. All massive profits from things like crypto, stock gains etc you should have a plan to "lock in" and the only way to do that is to stack.

>>52610708
now go get some platinum

>>52610788
The teeny-tiny size of the platinum market is what has me most excited. I believe that before silver and gold begin to rip, Pt will start to run away like palladium because they won't be able to control the price.

crypto nerds will seethe

>>52610904
APMEX customers are seething

>>52610775
was apmex shitting the bed for you when checking out? I bailed on an order because their faggot site broke and wouldn't let me check out

>>52610668
Low premium kilos.

>>52610744
I remember this as well, it felt heavier to me than its size suggested. Something so small being worth so much, I think also lends it some extra weight in your mind

>>52607871
>And i'm getting better at detecting stuff too, so i'm less afraid to dive in when need. In just few weeks i progressively lowered my "wanted" entry price from $18 (yikes in retrospect) down to now not touching anything above $14/oz! I'll be ebaymaxxing everyday and hopefully one day i'll be able to reach your level of cheapies.

You're doing really well frogfren you must have a natural eye and good instincts; many people simply don't possess the traits necessary to be a superior scrapper so keep exercising and sharpening those skills. You'll definitely get your average price lower as you discover new search strategies and become better at recognizing good silver by eye alone when hallmarks aren't clearly visible in the pics, for example I can do that pretty easily with old American coin silver now because of the distinctive way the stuff was constructed. Your big chunky ~1710 silverware sounds amazing, offhand I don't know what old French silver is worth as I don't have much experience with it but would imagine that Napoleon I era and earlier silver is worth good money to collectors, I'd love to see pics. Most silver available in the USA is younger so I don't see much that's from before the late 1700s. Most 18th century silver here is English and usually isn't worth much but I save most of it anyway because the old 100% handmade silver is very interesting and has tons of character. I also save the nice 1850s and earlier American coin silver items, again they aren't usually worth much over melt but I find the stuff very appealing and full of sovl. The situation in France is different so you'll have to figure out what works best, definitely research the old silver and different silversmiths as some may be very desirable, like old antebellum American coin silver made in the southern states, some of it goes for 10-20x melt or more it's pretty impressive. Keep up the good work my scrapfren.

How was everyones holiday, i hope your ready for christmas now. ill have to get my poverty tree up soon.

>>52610935
i never got that far, site wouldnt load and by the time i got it to work evrything was sold out

i dont get it guys, why gold and silver? you can make so much more money in real money, crypto

Looks like first set of hourly deals is numismatics

Best Black Friday deals? Should I wait until Cyber Monday?

First their shit site won't let me check out, then the first hourly deal is literal garbage. Think I'll just order from SDBullion and go back to sleep.

>>52611027

>>52611042
There is no black friday in my cunt so waiting till 15th Dec. Fingers crossed.

>>52611049
Wait are they showing diffrent deals app vs online cuz those aren't the deals im seeing on my app?

>>52611049
Never mind my app just reset itself and is showing them the same deals you posted now as well as the numismatics

THE TIME IS NIGH

>>52611104
nice one

>>52611042
JMBullion has 2023 Britannia's for $4.50 over spot. They also have the gold started pack that is 1oz at spot.
SDBullion has 10g gold bar at spot.
APMEX has buffalo shitters for $2 over spot.

>>52611027
>>52611051
these shitty deals make me think PMs are never going down again

>>52610985
hope you had a good thanksgiving holoanon. I still have my dead tree from 2019 up like a gigachad

>>52611177
Are these uncommonly good? I'm not exactly an expert in precious metals buying; sorry if it's a stupid question.

>>52610985
>How was everyones holiday
Mine was good, fren. Just had some pumpkin pie and strawberry rhubarb pie for breakfast.

>>52610617
in what world are you paying 650 for an ounce of gold?

>>52611246
it was very good, came home had a drink set up the black friday sale and now im relaxing. no wagie till atleast monday so im taking care of all my secret santa things
>>52611257
leftovers are the best

>>52611252
Any time you can get gold or silver from a reputable dealer at spot its a good deal, unless we are at the peak of a large price run up then it may just look like a good deal when it's really not.

>>52611252
both generic premiums and sovereign issue premiums are very high right now, ASE shortsge have made them cost 100% premium and the demand is spilling onto other bullion coins such as brits maples phillies and roos. common now to see britannias at 9 dollars over spot, will these premiums go down come spring? who knows. but brits at under 5 dollar premium, thats like price of some generics right now. of course you can get shitty buffalo rounds for cheaper still but it is still a good deal i think

>>52611219
The laypeople think that shit has already hit the fan and that we're currently in the recovery period but the schizos and markets know otherwise

>>52611252
Also you can't learn if you dont ask, so no stupid questions. If an anon is an ass for you trying to learn then fuck them.

>>52611309
Got it. And are we at the peak of a price run, do you think? I keep hearing about precious metals are crazy undervalued and how they're skyrocketing in price, but I haven't seen huge shifts when I check JMBullion or whatever.

>>52611324
So you'd pull the trigger on something like Asahi at $3.50 over spot?

>>52611335
Thanks!

>>52611042
european mint has buffalos at 23 euros (was almost 28).

I need help, frens. I want to get my best bud to start putting some of his wealth into PMs. He knows I stack and mentioned the other night (while he was drunk) that he needs metals, so it is in the back of his mind. I want to send him webm related as I think it will really put things into perspective for him.

Here's my problem. I can't into technology. I've tried sending a webm via email before and the recipient couldn't view the file. So my question is, how the hell do I get this webm to my buddy?

>>52611369
If you want generic, you buy the cheapest generic like those $2 over spot Buffs.
If you want premium, you buy the $4.50 over spot Brits.
If you're retarded, you buy the random Asahi's at $3.50 over spot.

>>52611335
holy fuck that pic

>>52611369
if youre looking to buy, i personally like the asahi rounds so id say yes, but shop around to be sure

we are at a local price run-up since gold moved a bit after "good" inflation numbers (they stil werent good), but this price increase is fresh off the biggest gold price cratering in a long time. we are still far below gold's record highs of nearly 2000 per ounce which was 2ish years ago. price action doesnt fluctuate majorly unless their is news on metrics which affect investors behavior such as cei numbers, changing interest rates, war, etc etc. and when the price moves, it is usually instantly or over the course of a dsy or so. if you are truly in the market for gold, i think its a decent spot price to buy at, and SD bullion kinebar deal is a way to get fractional gold and avoid the crazy premiums right now if its still available

>>52611407
OK; got it. What's wrong with the Asahi?

>>52611369
I dont think we are at a peak here are one and five year charts for gold and silver

>>52611458
theres nothing wrong with them if you like them except that ugly ass buffalos are a bit cheaper so you get more silver for your dollar, for not much more money you can get the brits from JM and i agree with other anon, if youre going to pay some premium you should get the britannias while that deal lasts because it probably wont be for long

>>52611455
Got it. And does silver follow these same rules? (I'm a bit wary of parking so much money in something it's easy for me to lose.)

>>52611478

>>52611478
And you think the price will continue to rise? Given the massive hyperinflation coming and whatnot.

>>52611479
OK cool. And the Brits are just bigger? They both say "1oz of silver" on JM, so I want to know how to spot a difference.

>>52611487

fuck apmex, picked up a bit from JM instead. gonna give the leafs as stocking stuffers

>>52611498

>>52611375
Be wary of companies taking part in satanic events/holidays.

>>52611482
silver is more volatile but generally follows gold price action but not always in 1 to 1 fashion, for example we saw gold dump recently with silver maintaining spot price of around 20, but that behavior doesnt happen often. people stack silver because using gold in day to day transactions is impractical. of course everyone wants gold, it doesnt tarnish and is more valuable, however , silver has been used as money for thousands of years for every day use , it is the peoples money. stacking gold is for banks, governments, and kings. i wouldnt go full retard into metals but i think everyone should have exposure to it as insurance against currency collapse since USD hold kn reserve currency is tenuous

>>52611496
britannias are more recognizable than a generic round and in theory, less likely to be counterfeit because there are harsher penalties for counterfeiting govt currency and there are security features on the coins whereas most generic rounds hsve none (possibly scottsdale reserve rounds could be considered a round with security features). govt issue vs generic also has some tax implications in some jurisdictions but i wouldnt worry about that. in theory, there is also some numismatic value to a coin, even though it is a bullion piece. if someone years from now wanted a britannia from every year, they may have to pay more for older ones. generic rounds do not have this hypothetical upside.

>>52611579
How is Black Friday Satanic? It's a time to buy presents for people.

>>52611664
black = bad
its literally in the first page of the bible I assume

>>52611625
>it is the peoples money
This appeals to me (also I suffer from hoarding compulsions and am terrified of misplacing or accidentally tossing a gold piece.)

>britannias are more recognizable
Interesting; you would recommend things like Krugerrands then?

>>52611717
i personally dont like krugerrands because the design doesnt appeal to me, the springbok is fine i just like other choices better. that being said, krugs are a fine choice to stack if you can find a good price. they are recognizable worldwide. if you are in the us, things like krugs and brits may not be as desirable because people are obsessed with ASE and also they like maples. hopefully this changes over time. i am in america and dont give a fuck about american silver eagle retard premiums, the us mint can die in a fire while i buy beautiful britannias

>>52611664
Its named after their "Black Mass"

Ceremonys they have where children are sacrificed and drained of blood, black friday is a symbolic event for the draining of the peoples financial blood (money) It doesn't make any real sense but thats the level these parasites operate at, everything is numerology and symbology to them. they believe in stupid stuff.

But they still have people taking part in it.

>>52611801
I believe it

>>52611801
traditionally this is the day retailers would become profitable on the year, hence moving from "in the red" to "in the black"

>>52611770
Got it; will pick up a brit or two today.

>>52611801
huh

I was literally at the "checkout/review order" tab and then the fucking thing timed out on me,

Mene is a bunch of kikes.

>no goy, we gave you the discount code because you complained
>no goy, you can't use the discount code during a sale
>be sure to pay your sales tax, goy

Numismatics or flat stacking?
Everyone knows that raw bars are cheaper than the coins with pretty pictures on them. Is it worth it or are we being grifted? Should we place value entirely on weight alone and avoid being lured by vanity?

All of APMEX's customers are literally getting Blacked right now.

>>52611369
I think we are at a temporary valley before it goes back to slow and steady up trend or before we have another record high due to global inflation, war, food/product shortages.

>>52611950
Good, good. They deserve it.

I hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving!

>>52611946
I say both, as long as the world is turning more or less steady numismatics will add value to your PMs, and plain bullion stacking for when the world gets crazy.

i would buy the 2023 brit deal from jmbullion but they use stupid ass plaid for ACH and my bank isn't supported by plaid. is there any option not to use plaid or am i fucked

>>52612231
U don't have checks?

>>52612231
just mail a check, i have a small local bank that cant into online payments, ive used the check method many times it just takes a week extra

>>52611937
what did mene do to make you complain

>>52611265
Where do you get $650 for an ounce of gold? Are you looking at the dollar to silver ratio? Are you retarded? [Genuine concern]

>>52612231
Took them ages to support Chase of all things. Currently just using Paypal since I get 5% cash back from it.
Just mail them a check. You ARE over the age of 50 right anon?

>>52612366
>paypal
>a zionist CBDC supporting globohomo company that openly wants to fine you for posting "misinformation"
Unironically NGMI

>>52612366
Are you suggesting that everyone in /pmg/ doesn't qualify for early bird specials? Because that is going to shatter my whole world view.

>>52612548
I suspect there is a massive age disparity between people who have most of their money in gold vs silver stackers. Basically the boomer vs zoomer meme

Anons, I was thinking about debtmaxxing for PMs if there is an egregious drop like silver to $15 and gold to $1500. Not too much, but something like $12k. What do you guys think?

>>52612581
As compelling as the case is for PMs and the collapse of the bond market and dollar. We honestly have no idea how long it can take for this all to unwind. That event is going to be catastrophic and no one wants to see it happen, so global participation from PREVENTING it is a certainty. The BRICS will garner more negotiating power while all nations continue 10%+ inflationary policies to help alleviate the debt burdens. And I imagine we could simmer in this economic malaise for years possibly. Debt maxing on credit and actually coming out ahead is very tough as you only have a tiny window to make that happen, and premiums+CC fees are pushing your cost basis far higher than what you want.

>>52612581
good idea but you're never seein $15 silver again boyo

>>52612569
In the real world I can definitely believe it, I figured on here it would be a tighter window.

>>52612707
If we have two more .75 hikes, its possible.

>>52610708
And Pt is denser still

>>52612661
Unless we know its gonna 2x its probably not worth it. DCA might actually be the way lol.

>>52611397
That's not a very convincing webm, but here:
https://www.any-video-converter.com/en6/for_video_free/

>>52612731
market has priced those baby hikes in already

>>52612661
Anon, it might even be a good idea to take physical delivery if we buy a futures contract, that can be done without debt. We could save up for 15k in 6 months right? Also, there is smaller delivery unit available in my cunt.

>>52612769
Thanks fren. So uhhh, which format should I convert a webm to in order to send via text message?

>>52613084
go ask your grandson, boomer

>>52611516
in for a roll of brits
this is the worst black friday since I got into bullion 6 years ago

>>52613090
Not a boomer, just never really worked indoors. Never had much use for computers other than email and pr0n.

>>52613084
Ask him - he's the one with the limitations.

>>52613111
yeah, the brits deal is ok but overall this blows

>>52612661
The voice of reason. Listen carefully.

>>52612758
Soliciting opinions - should I add the other side to make a side-by-side, or is it too plain to bother?

>>52613210
your side by side shots are always the best

>>52611516
Anyone know when those 2023 Britannias are going to get minted and delivered?

>>52610985
>>52611273
>>52613228

>>52613210
I prefer both sides anon.

>>52613367
Says they're in stock currently anon. The 10 I ordered a couple days ago already have a shipping label in the system.

>>52613367
I have a few in hand already (bought last month).

>>52613369
Shut up faggot, I like Holoanon, he contributes a lot to /pmg/ all you do is cry and vitch and you have made only one post.

>>52613228
>>52613399
Huh. Not expected. Can't deny dubs though.
I'll probably reshoot - don't like the focus, and that sneaky little logo at the bottom gets a bit washed out by light trickery.
Thanks for the opinions!

>>52613474
kys simp none of those posts needed a trip

>>52613507
Okay... opening myself up for insults etc., but how is a tripcode made, and what's the consequence of having it?

>>52613526
You get gay.

>>52613526
https://www.4chan.org/faq#trip

>>52613369
i often forget to turn it off, i agree trips should be used sparingly,

The j- I mean Silver really can't make it's mind up today huh?

>>52613552
Kek - thanks. I shoulda known to do that.

>Check out these killer APMEX Black Friday deals bro!
>Only 25% over spot for 1 oz Silver Bars! That's 50% off the usual premium!
>And if that's not your fancy, they have Krugs for $59.99 over spot, that's almost the same as the regular prices from other dealers!
>And look at all these great numismatics, they're giving you a whole $10 off this coin from Niue that's shaped like Pacman! you're paying $50 instead of $60, how great of a bargain is that?
>Oh look, here's an insane one, $1.99 per oz over spot on 10 oz bars!
>Let me just click
>Come on, it normally doesn't take this long to load
>Any minute now...
>Finally!
>Add to cart and check- hey it isn't letting me check out!

>>52613631
I read this out loud laughing to my wife while she tapped her foot in annoyance. Thanks for the laugh anon.

>>52613631
kek

>>52613422
>>52613455
Oh shiiii noice, why are they so cheap then? Im in NC how bad is tax guna fuck me?

>>52613631
Fucking kek

>>52613631
Is the much younger age and lower attention span of silver chadlets to blame for their lack of long-term thinking and eagneress to fall for small deals and DOOMP at a moment's notice when Youtube personalities instruct them to?

>>52613710
we get it, you're trying to D&C with silver vs. gold
you can stfu now

Hey bros I have a question about a marking and maybe some of you can help me out.


This is a platinum ring with pearls and diamonds, a little emerald in center, is vintage possibly antique. Belonged to my great grandparents, but do not know when they acquired it. Anyone know about jewelry?

I’ve posted this pic before, you may remember me, but incoming pics of the markings inside.

>>52613793

The first marking indicates it’s platinum, as far as I know, but what does the “Petai” mean after? Can anyone make that out or know of similar markings?

Really disappointed in APMEX. The website took 3 minutes to display the BF deals, and when it did the site was so overloaded that I couldnt process my payment for my Tube @ spot. Note the time. This 3 minutes after the BF deals went live.
Oh well. I will scour ebay and LCS and pawn shops for junk silver next week at tad over spot

>>52613816
Best image I can get, and Happy Thanksgiving famalam

>>52613819
you can only blame APMEX so much to be fair
the real story is there's so many fucking people desperate for a good deal on physical PMs

>>52613631
The best one was the 1kg gold brit coin going for $2000 over spot per ounce>>52610179

Fuck these paid hoaxster shills and their new gayhorse.

>>52610430
Bought 50 2023 brits at 1309.00 how bad did i do?

>>52613228
Can you post both sides of the sample?
I'd like to see how the face looks, i was the guy who suggested shorter nose and different eyes.
I ordered anyway, because i really like how Holo and Yotsuba turned out.
So i kind of have faith in your judgement even without muh fixus.
What looked weird to me in the render might look ok on the actual coin.

>>52611246
photo?

>>52614243
gj
it's definitely a good enough deal to splurge on

>>52613914
I dont know why you are upset that was one of the greatest deals I've ever seen.

>>52613399
I missed out on 2021 apputania. Maybe some day for collector sake I’ll find one

Newly created version.

>>52614254
Hey, we still have your images and we did talk to the mint about how it would be reflected if we went with those changes, their concern is the decreased nose size will cause issues in striking and finishing. The sample they sent was sent to the same people that did their normal plating and their QC is a bit shit unless you hound them (i am assured by our guy at the mint they will be hounded because they dont want a repeat of the yotsuba situation we had). so whatever the process is on the plating does some weird stuff to the coin. the eyes turned out really good though despite the plating process giving her skin cancer. We have noticed it happens to the side opposite that gets the gilding which is interesting but preventable.

>>52614397
Can you post your setup again? I recently bought a DSLR

>>52613746
Silver is a meme and I am tired of teenagers comparing it to a metal they cannot afford

>>52614850
You claim to have one ounce of gold, although you have provided no proof of any owned precious metals. You are new money cringe.

>>52614850
Based

>>52614424
>>52614424
Looks better than expected. I ordered the regular silver version, so the skin cancer shouldn't be an issue.
Delivery in Q1 '23 i guess? It's a waiting game.

>>52615043
yep Q1 at the latest, right now we are waiting on email responses for the boxes we want to get. we have a few ideas in mind but if we can get that order in soon and the coin order itself done as soon as PO ends we might have a package out before newyears

Guys if you haven't seen Died Suddenly, you need to watch it. The great COVID die off is going to make sure we need to double our stack size for the same relative wealth.

>>52614850
If you are so "tired" of people talking about silver, maybe you should fuck off pmg?

>>52615124
two more weeks and everyone vaxxed will die bro
yawn

>>52615124
Most of the vaxxed cattle are invested in real estate, stocks and crypto. Vast majority of stackers are unjabbed so your purchasing will increase anyhow and you’ll probably be able to find a free house to requisition. It’s free real estate

Just ordered another tube, brings me to 100+

No dip, I know, but things could get higher with no dips like we saw a few months ago. Crypto imploding could have unforeseen knock on effects also.

As an aside I strongly recommend you guys buy coins with security features, with the way things are going not everyone is going to want to spend $1000 hyperinflated zogbucks on an ounce of silver without Britannia/maple style assurances of authenticity.

>>52615162
Get boosted faggot.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/SlyEzfNxsvOr/

>>52615201
>he doesn't think everyone with the vaxx will die?? HES A FAGGOT
you are wasting your life with this stupid conspiracy stuff. and no, i didn't get the vaxx.

>millenials have left the stock market
>Buy these things that millenials are totally buying
>R*al es*ate
>Fine art
>"Private equity"
>Crypto

>Nonononono.... Gold and silver? Pfffft... No don't buy those

Holy fuck I hate Jews with a burning passion. There is literally NO worse asset in this economy than "fine art". I'd literally rather invest in STORED FRESH WATER than fucking "fine art"

>>52615233
Yes you did.

>>52615263
nope. but let's go ahead and assume the vaccine is a poison. now tell me why would the powers that be want to poison their most loyal and trusting supporters? and leave unscathed the people who distrust and hate them the most? it makes no sense. you are a schizo retard.

>>52615233
>>52615294
Just stop, you are only embarrassing yourself.

>>52615306
>doesn't answer the question
>just says 'ur embarrassing urself'
very feminine and low energy

>>52615251
Thanks jews! More time for /pmg/ bros to acoomalate. And that's a good thing.

>>52615134
Fuck apmex

>>52614847
(whoops - jpg now, not png)
You betcha.
I've since made the backstop for the coins more robust and it's placed so when a coin is in place, the minimum focal distance is a few millimeters closer to the camera. This allows some leeway for focus and for a possible thicker coin, like 2ozt coins.

>>52615294
Because they believed 95% was loyal you fucking retard. They were wrong.

>>52615294
>>52615431
By the time 5% are left, no one can undo anything or bring them to justice, and they go live in isreal, Ukraine etc and make slaves of the last 5%. You're a gay fucking retard and you're coping because you took the clotshot.

>>52615294
>most loyal and trusting supporters?
You do realize that the majority of Americans getting vaxxed are elderly and left of center
>A.K.A the NON WORKERS - NON TAXPAYERS - NON CONTRIBUTORS TO SOCIETY
makes sense for the power that be to want to cull the dead useless weight from society, even if they are the most brain dead and "loyal" (obedient blind trusting sheep).

>>52614390
Sucks to suck anon
Anyone who has them now will not part with them except for a ridiculous premium. If someone offered me an oz of gold for mine I would still have to think about it

>>52615539
>If someone offered me an oz of gold for mine I would still have to think about it

I would sell mine for 10 grams of gold. lol

>>52615603
so you dont deserve one

>>52614390
I missed it by a few hours. Never been so unlucky, too.
>>52615539
I'd almost offer you a gold maple leaf but that's pretty stupid.

>>52615539
>I would still have to think about it
This. I really don't know either.

>>52615603
>Poorfag alert
They tried to turn Apu in to a symbol of hatred
Less than 1000 oz minted
I can buy an oz of gold whenever I want/ can afford
Can never buy Aputannia unless it appears on a secondary market, which I am sure some bullion stores wouldn't even touch because the "hatred" bullshit (((they))) tried to pull
Aputannia is more rare then gold, lightning in a bottle and every coin thereafter will never reach Aputannia heights

>>52615539
>>52615603
My one and only Aputania is coming to the afterlife with me.

>>52615539
I'd trade for an ounce of gold in a heartbeat, but only my "spare." I'm dying with the last one.

>>52615632
I have 2 fren.

>>52615835
Picrel

>>52615862
still wouldnt give them away
no chance you get them back
and i am sure you got a lot more silver to sell when we reach 1000/OZ

>>52615936
>1000 / oz
….

>>52615862
I want one, man. sell

>>52615936
>1000/OZ
>>52615936
Sadly that will never happen. If it does I have lots of silver to cash in.
I only want to sell 1 of them. Thats why I bought 2.

>>52615944
yes
i did not say when
but bif you think thats impossible in our lifetime you should buy bitcoin or Pokemon Cards

I regret only buying one Aputania but I guess it just makes the one I do have even more special.

>>52615973
Around 10 grams of gold and its yours.

>>52615190
They'll buy what they can get, and it won't be much. :D

>>52615998
What is your time horizon on your silver investment

>>52615998
>Imagine trading when it hits 1000/oz and believing that is a good move
When silver is 1000/oz is not when you sell but be fucking thankful past you planned for future you

>>52616032
I will convert it to a large property not fiat .

>>52616013
This, it was a gamble at that time which was even better and that is why Apu is ever more special, if it was a safe sure thing a lot more would have been minted. God bless mintanon, and his future endeavors but Aputannia was lightning in a bottle that will not be recreated

>>52615936
>>52615944
$1000 per ounce is fud. $5000 per ounce in current dollar purchasing power once all the paper silver goes poof.

>>52616004
In our lifetime, I will give you that. We’re 30ish right?

Hey guys, do you like infinite fiat? Because the banks since 2020 only have to have zero fractional reserves. That's right, banks don't have to hold money to lend money. Money printer go ∞.

>>52616084
31

DTDS posted a very interesting chart today. It's JPM's silver flow in/out of Comex.
>stopped = boughted
>issued = solded

We can see they massively slurped from 2015 to late 2019, while the price was maintained under water. Then the scamdemic occur, inflation quickly follow through, ppl panic, and since then JPM couldn't buy anything, but were forced to dump over and over again.
Their war chest is getting seriously depleted. They still have some, but how long can it last?

>>52616084
Sure anon

Credit suisse is shitting it's pants again? Is next monday the day?

>>52616176
It's ok papi, you are in a boomie safe haven here.

>>52610430
Whoa I got 2 op images in one week. All stackers will be blessed this holiday season.

Well, after much debate in my mind, I finally decided to pick up this up. Truly disappointed in APMEX for the bs with their sale, but whatever. I also decided to get some Britannias from JM.

>>52616122
based silver star eagles enjoyer

>>52612900
Are you talking about ICE 1000oz contract? I know they say physically settled however that just covers the Receipt. You'd still have to pick it up and I have no idea how difficult/expensive they make it.
I haven't seen any stories about someone trying to pick up silver from an ICE contract they are always about Comex.

>>52612661
>That event is going to be catastrophic and no one wants to see it happen
No anon. I do want to see it happen. The world has strayed too far from God for too long. The destruction of the empire of usury must happen and it must be catastrophic to inflict maximum psychological trauma into the population that survives it. The scars left on the psyche of those that live through this event must be so deep and so severe that anyone who would ever dare mention a return to a system of usury for the next half millennia will be lynched without second thought. I don't know if we'll reach levels of cataclysm like this, we shall see.

>>52613631
Haha so true, I did get some of their crypto rounds though. In fact, I bought way more silver than I should have from 2 different sites to get a variety and also save on taxes, shipping and volume price breaks.

As Churchill once said about parliamentary defense spending
>I suggested the building of three new dreadnaughts and the opposition countered with five so we settled upon seven.
Something like that

I just bought 8 ITALprezciosi 10oz bars

>>52612661
I want to see it happen

>>52616499
good idea.

>>52616499
Nice, where at?

>>52616030
The only time horizon I am waiting on is the collapse of the bond market. During the Weimar hyperinflation, many people sold items thinking they were rich, only to watch asset prices not stop moving higher.
The thing to remember is that you cannot create a "free lunch" with finance and accounting. All of their power lies in being able to shift losses around, and the $46TN bond market represents a literal fuckton of losses. Also, I fully expect the system to watch to ease us into the boiling pot of water rather than ripping the band-aid off. We could very well simmer in 10% inflation economies for far longer than we expect if there is international cooperation.

>>52615190
>As an aside I strongly recommend you guys buy coins with security features, with the way things are going not everyone is going to want to spend $1000 hyperinflated zogbucks on an ounce of silver without Britannia/maple style assurances of authenticity.
That's a good point. But more like easily recognizable silver. Security features are a nice plus, but won't be a determining factor. Having well known, easy to identify gubment minted coins will.
I always said this, the standardization of coins (marking for origin's tracability, value and weight denominated on the surface) was the most important factor to the adoption of precious metals as medium of exchange. And if there is three things you should avoid like plague while stacking, it's silver shots, unmarked 'fantasy' jewels and home-made hand-poured bars. With no marking, thus no guarantee of origin, who will trust you when the time comes to trade your silver for other stuff?
Sure you can test it in front of the buyer with nitric acid, but the the cycle repeat.. and what a pain in the ass.

I really hope, with demand ever increasing, that soon a company will develop a cheap, pen-shaped spectrometer who can fit in your pocket. Just like mini fiat notes testing machines exist nowaday, but used to be the size of a printer.
The firm who can develop these will make fucking bank, and i'll be among the first customers if it is priced below $100.

>>52616603
yes absolutely
But you should never forget that the end of silver mining is near
and we need so much more for solar technologie, cars and other electric stuff
its the most potential linvestment rigth now
its undervalued and thats rare in our time
i dont know how the future will go but whith a natural resource thats at the end of its limits you couldnt bet wrong

>>52616603
>We could very well simmer in 10% inflation economies for far longer than we expect if there is international cooperation.
How exactly? Are you assuming that there would not be severe perturbations in the system that have not yet happened? For instance I can see a long drawn out decline as a possibility, but not when you consider all the catalysts that could cause massive default cascades. Things like gas pipelines getting blown up, China fucking with Taiwan, that massive raft of oil tankers Russia and China are using to circumvent sanctions gets fucked. Plus the deindustrialization of the entire European continent as its too expensive to run any equipment of any kind. These people are not God, they cannot predict everything and they cannot make the base commodities we need magically appear out of the ground.

Look at this copper deficit they're predicting, this is just one commodity
https://www.mining.com/codelco-sees-copper-deficit-at-8-million-tonnes-by-2032/
And whatever the actual catalyst is in the end I promise you it will be in the one direction that no one was looking, it always is.

>>52616586
bullion exchanges, I couldn't find cheaper bars anywhere else

>>52616733
Yeah, they usually have pretty good prices on bullion.

>>52615539
It would cost a lot for this set -- As I was his official first customer ever.

>>52616614
>I really hope, with demand ever increasing, that soon a company will develop a cheap, pen-shaped spectrometer who can fit in your pocket. Just like mini fiat notes testing machines exist nowaday, but used to be the size of a printer.

What will actually happen is that a lot of places will install XRF thermo coin machines where you top up your store credit then use your card once you've done your shop. This won't apply to small businesses because that would be a barrier to exchange, but places like Aldi will be able to as they are pretty much guaranteed to get the same customers every week.

>>52616801
I had been waiting but I missed the start by an hour or two. I only bought one though. I suppose being the first and having my pick would of been cool. Very nice set fren

Anyone else stacking wetbacks in anticipation of having to bribe your way across the Mexican border when the US collapses? Even though I live in the Northeast and stack Maples, fuck Canada.

What is /pmg/ opinions on this years black friday sale?
Expecting anything on Cyber monday?

>>52616709
Until we are blind sided by something big enough I would count on the can being kicked. And what I mean by that is in every which way the system can attempt to put a band-aid on some systemic issue it will do so. It will try to survive.

>>52616929
Wish I would have bought some back when premiums were like 5-6 dollars on these. Preferred lower premium silver then as well, but seriously, what in the actual fuck is going on with libertad premiums now?

>>52616955
The can may very well be simply taken away if enough countries decide they want a gold backed global currency.

>>52610430
Apmex has Original Engelhard Prospector 1oz Silver rounds available now.
they also have Sunshine mint Original Silver Eagle design 1oz Silver Rounds available right now

>>52616972
I paid the stiff premiums. Looking at past years, they're only going to go higher. At some point I plan on getting at least a couple tubes of the 2023s. Call me stupid, but price has rarely stopped me from purchasing the things that I want.

>>52616944
Overhyped.
The absolute best you'll see (and we did) is spot.
Next month or so when the stock market goes up due to the Santa effect, PM prices will drop as investors move to stocks. Then even with standard premiums in play, PMs will be less expensive than this weekend.

>>52614390
you guys know theres 2 for sale on walletstack right?

>>52617013
love me some prospectors, simple as
it was satisfying to get the meme year by chance

>>52616955
Yes of course. But all our macro economic signals are telling us that we are beyond that point already. There is no way that the FED can raise rate to a level near 20%, at the last time we saw inflation like this, that is what it took. If they try that now, the music stops very quickly. So if we know they can't do that they there is only one other possibility, a pivot. At what point is unclear but they have already begun to slow rate increases because the pressure is building. The near implosion of the Gilt market a month ago gives us an idea of how high the pressure is. When they pivot this time, foreign held USD denominated debt will start to default because as bad as the American economy might be, the rest of the world is unimaginably worse. All of the foreign worthless paper is built on top of the US useless paper. In the business they call that a double-whams.

>>52617100
>foreign held USD denominated debt will start to default because as bad as the American economy might be, the rest of the world is unimaginably worse
whats gonna happen afterwards?

>>52617100
I'm assuming the only reason the currency isn't hyper inflating right now is that so much USD is held overseas and hasn't come back home yet. The dollar dies the instant foreign nations decide to stop holding it.

>>52617100
What does the scary blue line represent?

Okay fellow niggerz and european-americans, which is the best investment of these - dollar or gold? What will happen to xau/usd in the next year? And why? Thank

>>52616709
I agree. Just in the USA alone we have enough pent up political instability and hatred to trigger civil war. And there is a huge pile of dollars sitting in China and Japan that they are itching to unload. China has already started, probably using the dollars to buy gold, and you can bet they would be happy to trigger an inflationary conflagration in the USA. Japan can't hold out much longer.

>>52616985
You can bet the BRICS and the Islamic countries are not going to help kick the can if they have an alternative, and they seem to think they do.

>>52617118
>what's gonna happen afterwards?
If the foreign held debt defaults, the FED will need to print dollars to keep the USD exchange rate stable. If those countries facing default of their USD debt start dumping treasury bonds in order to prevent default, the FED will have to buy those bonds off the market (by printing dollars), as the bond values will drop as they are dumped on the market, resulting in more countries entering default. This is the default cascade and the FED will desperately try to stop it.

Both of these things will accelerate the hyperinflation of the USD because the FED will be printing fuckloads of money.

>>52617125
China is already unloading US bonds and is very likely the secret gold buyer blowing up the exchange. And I imagine they are in the mood for a counter-strike to Biden's chip embargo.

I bought. Brace for gold to drop to 1680 before the end of Monday

>>52615251
Milloneals gave up stocks because they're not smart enough to invest in anything. Especially long term things like stocks, index funds, gold, and sweet sweet silver. I've heard them go "life's about experiences, not things" so many times. And "things" applies to money as well. Sorry molaoneals, but us zoomers are different, and we WILL be richer than you. And yall will STARVE in GOVERNMENT FUNDED RETIREMENT HOMES IN 2075. Or even better, they'll starve on the streets where the belong!!!

>>52617264
based

>>52613816
>>52613830
>>52613830
Edward Petri maybe? Looks like there work and has similar name.

>>52617125
>I'm assuming the only reason the currency isn't hyper inflating right now is that so much USD is held overseas and hasn't come back home yet. The dollar dies the instant foreign nations decide to stop holding it.
Yes. The foreign nations will either default or dump in a effort to avoid default. All the debt comes home to the FED, and the USD spirals.

>>52617293
when?
>2 weeks

>>52617293
>and the USD spirals
Can't wait.

>>52617273
Brilliant uncirculated?

Doubt.jpg

>>52617352
I was going to say JM Bullion never steered me wrong before but I did have to send back a Queens Beast that was pretty badly scratched up.

>>52613210
>>52612758
Looks so sexy it's unreal
Plus right as I'm deep diving on Randall Carlson's Kosmographia
Luv synchronicity simple as

>>52616972
What make it extra weird is Mexico being the biggest silver producer worldwide, and it's not even close!
How come it's impossible to find silver from the country extracting the of it? Meanwhile you can find philharmonic pretty much everywhere across the world and Austria probably mined it's last silver oz 60 years ago..

Do Americans have CGT? It was lowered to something ridiculous like £500 a month here recently, really makes sense to only stack Britannias and sovs.

>>52617018
>Next month or so when the stock market goes up due to the Santa effect, PM prices will drop as investors move to stocks. Then even with standard premiums in play, PMs will be less expensive than this weekend.
Yeah sure...
Did you factor in how the CME Group paid SLV owners who wanted to take deliveries $2k per contract if they rolled out (delayed the notice issue) until end of december, nostradamus?

If there is one thing i learned with silver over the years, it's that's basically impossible to make prices' predictions because the market is under so many layers of kikery and shenanigans. It's both the only commodity who can pull a x100 out of nowhere or go below extraction's cost.

Death of Derivatives video.

https://youtu.be/q4MJ2FVpq-0

>>52617485
Yes, Americans have CGT. It is an especially onerous tax during times of inflation because you are taxed on nominal gains when you may have actually lost real value.

Got a baby EngelHARD to keep the bigger one company.

>have 15% networth in metals
>or about 3.7 months expenses
>considering bringing it up to 25% of networth
Should I bros?

Also got this little chunky 1oz A-Mark and a couple more culls.

>>52616972
Libertads are devoid of face value, yet are still accepted as currency and guaranteed by Banco de México based on the market value of its gold or silver.
it's the only coin i know that's like this

>>52617741
>>52617757

>>52617755
>still being below 90% of networth
ngmi

>>52617547
>only commodity who can pull a x100 out of nowhere or go below extraction's cost.
Not true, oil is notorious for this as well. Although the average person cannot buy a barrel of oil, it was not that long ago here in cucknada that the barrels the oil came in were worth more than the oil inside them, and it wasn't too many years before that a barrel of oil was nearing $200

>>52617773
Why does that make 1oz libertad worth 2.5 ozs of any other government issued oz?

>>52617890
it got titty power anon

>>52617890
most silver coins have a face value that is laughably low and makes them useless as a currency. a silver eagle is worth $1 for example

a libertad's "face value" is worth whatever the spot price of silver/gold is. so a 1oz silver libertad can be spent in mexico like it was a 21.50 USD bill.

>>52617922
Do they actually spend them like that?
>>52617855
You're right. I'm swallowing my copper coins tonight to kill myself from copper poisoning.

>>52617922
But no one buys government issue for the face value anyways. They buy government issue for instant recognizability. No one is going to sell it for face value

>>52617755
Why not? If it moons you are in the money. Think of it as a slightly less liquid savings account.

>>52617551
>Creating new financial derivatives based on esoteric valuations of things we do not own or cannot ever own in order to collateralize debt they we never pay
Jesus Christ this is crazy. This fuck is trying to financialize "biodiversity" into a form of tradeable collateral. This system is so fucked its unreal.

>>52618002
Yeah if I buy what I'm thinking on buying it'll put me at 6 months living expenses or 3 months of income saved up. Which is a good amount to have in a savings account I suppose. Just not sure if I wanna bite the bullet on this lol.

>>52617372
Everyone save this pic and send it out to people you know, the more people know about it the quicker it fails and the quicker we get these khazar parasites out of power.

>>52618104
It shows that they want to corporatize everything, that you can only get access to essentials for the price of a ticket. They will own everything and they will be happy.

>>52617755
Your net worth is 2 years of expense?
Do you have unusually high lifestyle?

Hey precious metal friends.
Where do you store your treasure ?

Do you have a safe at home? Do you leave at the bank? That would defeat most of the purpose I suppose ?

Would it be possible to re-run the Aputannia? I mean I assume the creator still has the dies, so it is possible right?

>>52618198
Nah I actually barely spend any money lol. I save almost everything but a decent chunk goes to bills and food.
I've only been working for about 3 years haven't cared about finance for an even shorter amount of time. Not very wealthy (yet) as I'm only 20 haha.

>>52618206
if you're looking for suggestions, get a gun safe if you don't have one and bolt it to your basement floor and wall.
if you don't have guns, prioritize that.
if you need advice, I'm sure there are plenty other /k/ refugees that can help

>>52618216
>Would it be possible to re-run the Aputannia?
No. It was part of the deal. If you want one, you'll need to convince a current owner.

>>52618218
>Not very wealthy (yet) as I'm only 20 haha.
That's great, you are still very young and a lot of opportunities will arise during the coming chaos.
It will be up to you to seize them, and being young allow you to play it risky.
Are you vaxxed?

>>52617938
>>52617960
yeah it's just a neat thing about libertads
the main reason they have a high premium is their limited mintage (and that they look sexy)

>>52618216
pretty sure he destroyed the dies afterwards as part of an ancient kek ritual, as you do

>>52618281
How many were created?

>>52618218
Oh okay! That's pretty good for a 20 years old.
Don't focus too much on hoarding shit right now and live your life to the full.
Being financially savvy is nice and savings and rainy days money will come in handy. But you are in your best years and there's nothing like travelling and living life to the fullest
Going out of your comfort zone, meeting a bunch of people and living new experiences will make you wiser, it's a great investment in yourself

>>52618280
>>52618206
I don't have precious metals. I'm browsing because I'm curious.
But here in Mexico things are a bit hectic and burglary is quite common. I'd be worried sick if I had that much money in untreatable form at my house.

>>52618280
>/k/ refugees
What are you trying to say?

>>52617938
Big of fan of the sterling 10 peso coins. I wonder if they were actually used back when their FV was more than melt

>>52618388
820
(saved from MintAnon's post in 2021)

Well, I decided to buy some Britannias on JM today. I really wish I didn't need to spend $1500 to avoid paying sales tax (thanks CA) but you gotta do what you gotta do

>>52618216
No
>>52618281
This
>>52618357
Not destroyed because it is a cool thing to keep/have. But marked with a line ground into it that would prove it was not an original print. And trying to reprint by making fakes I am sure would be extremely difficult to replicate because of endearing unprofessional not perfect detail of the original

>>52618477
Looking very nice

>>52618417
the board's become insufferable.
old /k/ is long dead.

>>52616440
Silver Micro, Jeetland.

>>52618330
>It will be up to you to seize them
Yes I hope to be able to when/if they arise. >Are you vaxxed? Nope. Never vaxxed and never tested
>>52618464
I never thought of that. Maybe not at first but I do know they quit after 3 years so it probably went above face within those 3 years.
>>52618347
>and that they look sexy
Indeed. I need one for the coom stack.
>>52618397
Noted. I travel when I can (been to 25 states) and when I can do so for cheap. I had a vacation out of state this year for the first time in a while with family and it was quite fun.
I hope to get a wfh job eventually to enable more travel but I'd still like to save lots of money too when I'm young haha. I I feel like I like saving (and stacking gold) more than fun most of the time desu. I'm uncertain of the future and would like to be a little more prepared in case some shit goes down. But I'm not a full on schizo either and understand that living a litttle bit is good too.

>>52618206
>Where do you store your treasure ?

>>52618696
IDs, NOW

>>52611027
Are disney dollars worth much? I have a few

>>52618832
>Are disney dollars worth much?
More than the USD.

>>52618478
>I really wish I didn't need to spend $1500 to avoid paying sales tax
GSM and GEC give no shits about sales tax. Just buy enough to avoid paying for shipping and you're golden.

>>52615539
i'd have to be offered 100 acres of arable land, grove of fruiting trees, with a clean stream, beautiful house, and a 1000oz brick of gold before i thought about trading my Aputannia.

Anyone that can recommend some capsules to buy on Amazon for my incoming Britannia's?

So now that I'm shopping around for silver, I see 4Chan has somehow tapped into cookies or whatever and they're targetting advertising.
Creepy.
I hate this cross-web site referencing tracking glowie stuff.

>>52619014
uhhh what is an adblocker?

>>52619033
Yeah, fine can turn off, but the fact there are ads wasn't the complaint. It's the cross-site linkage, whether ads are turned off or not. Shit goes on in the background. Not seeing the ads is a bit ostrich.

>>52618985
Other than what can be found with a search for
"39mm coin capsules"?
Well, there *are* 20-count sets of 39mm capsules that come in a red cap tube, or cheaper yet you can get the clear cases of 60 capsules 40.6mm.

>>52618477
>>52618544
appended information

>>52619099
Truth. There was a NewsAnon who tracked sales of all sorts of memecoins until it got to be a real job.

>>52619014
Use brave browser and ad blocker

>>52619099
I may never get around to owning an Aputannia but I know for a fact that I will never part with my trips Wagmius ever.

>>52618985
Congrats on the Brits. OnFireGuy capsules are probably my favorite, and they can be bought on Amazon with a tube that holds them. I'd probably leave most of them sealed in the mint tubes though, unless you are having scrooge mcduck fantasies.

>>52619123
He stopped because tranny jannies were banning him

>>52612569
>>52612728
38, so technically a millenial, literally at 800:1 ratio, I buy silver when I can, I buy gold when I feel bold, which isn't often. I've had more gold, sold it to keep my business afloat during the lockdowns. I'll buy more, but it's slow.

>>52619222
That ear placement

https://pastebin.com/PFMse8fe

>>52619123
newsanon was based, /pmg/ has lost quite a few good ones in the past years
>>52619198
this

>>52617755
Fuck bros I boughted
I don't spend this much money very often so I feel hot, have pit in my stomach and my muscles are tense
But at the same time I feel a sense of euphoria and vigor. Very excited. I feel the same way as the first time I touched breasts.
But after this I ain't buying gold or silver til June at least lmao.

>>52618477
Technically it's 818 now, since one coin was lost in the mail and one was destroyed.

>>52617278
Based, death to all millennials. I say we zoomers ally with boomers.

>>52619395
>Fuck bros I boughted
You traded.
Fiat for real money.
YAGMI

>>52618870
Fuckin kek, sad but true

>>52618870

>>52616208
What's that in the bottom center?
I'm just a tourist but that really activates my neurons.

>>52619502
Literally every single one of these are bangers
Good taste

>>52618696
Most of them are queen's virtues but the best ones are the trivium girls rounds and a mount everest mint 1974 (formerly jewel encrusted, 125 ever minted) mother's day bar. The crowned jewel of my shiny harem. Oh how I love her.
>>52619474
Yeah boomers have their problems (some they even share with millennials) but even they are better than millennials. Especially the country ones that didn't necessarily get the post war boom/acted like retards in the 60s. All the coolest boomers I've met are poor, rednecks, or both.
>>52619502
Well in that case:
Fuck bros I traded

>>52619837
>Most of them are queen's virtues but the best ones are the trivium girls rounds and a mount everest mint 1974 (formerly jewel encrusted, 125 ever minted) mother's day bar. The crowned jewel of my shiny harem. Oh how I love her.
This was for >>52618778
Oops. Oh well, gives me an excuse to post another pic.

>>52619395
Congrats!
I feel your pain - I'm spending more than usual this weekend, too. But there's *so much* cool stuff out there, and it just keeps coming!

>>52618206
I just leave them on my shelf

>>52620005
based

>>52619837
i like that art bar a lot

Tokelau coins are so cheap at my place right now. Should I just stack like actually whatever that is the cheapest?

Wait are Black Friday deals just for 1 day in the US? In Europe we have them last Friday-Sunday so I thought I had time left to buy stuff

>>52619395
based endorphins enjoyer

>>52610430
Just got 28 2022 eagles for $32 a pop
Feels good anons
Also some keklord on eBay must be in a pinch bc i snagged all his shit for dirt cheap
Maples for 26
Eagles for 30
Etc
To that person, thank you. I will only fuck your wifes mouth in the collapse.

>>52620378

>>52613228
Since I have order 369 and you just said there are less than 400 Megs that would mean 90% of orders are singles, completely opposite situation from Holo and Yot. Was your marketing rugged by jannies or are you the rug opertor?

>>52619758
>PMG
>Paper money guarantee
Kek.
Also, as a millennial working with zoomers (and millennials):
Yes, we millennials are bad, but holy shit, zoomers… how do they even manage to keep breathing?

yay/nay?

NEW THREAD

>>52621168