/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>52515456
Not just tech, I work for a Fortune 500 manufacturing company and have the most superfluous, useless job you could imagine. Most of IT for these companies and basically 100% of their HR/diversity none sense positions are bloat too.

>Are tech companies just packed with lattee siping 20 something millennial tech grads who do useless zoom meetings all day?
what do you think HR and marketing do?
do you think they fired engineers? maybe they fired some super expensive senior guys in "new features" divisions, but they've mostly kept their maintenance engineers to keep everything running

>>52515456
more like 50-60%

>>52515480
I’m highly concerned as a shareholder

>>52515456
it's called price's law look it up.

>>52515456
Anon most companies got way to much overhead. Overhead comes when people want to enlarge their importance and position within a company (managing 40 people is deemed more successful then 8). Also you give yourself some meat to cut when times it though. Most companies who doesn't produce any psychical good or service won't need a company bigger then 500 people imo.

>>52515456
>10%-20%
They could probably increase that to 70-80%.

>>52515509
I wouldn’t worry too much. If anything it’s a bit of a sign of health as the company can afford to keep said bloat (obviously you’d prefer more efficiency). Also, if we go into a full on recession we will all be let go.

>>52515456

whats funny is everyone talks about 80% of people don't do any work, but they themselves are NEVER part of that 80%. it's always everyone else, right? never you. btw even with all this overhead most tech companies make a huge profit still. twitter is just a useless valueless company that didn't deserve to exist in the first place. just like if 4chan was a company.

>>52515456
Every tech company has a bunch of experimental projects. In a restructuring they can axe entire projects that aren't really panning out.

>>5251557
>it's always everyone else, right?
Yes

They didn't actually lay anyone off. Ask yourself why the MSM would run these layoff stories on the front pages. When has anything they've ever said been true?
It's rhetoric to either trick the Fed into pivoting so they can take out more cheap debt to buy their own stock, OR they're working with the Fed to throw normies into despair (probably to kill money velocity).

>>52515585
Google has quite a few people have never even heard of. There's an app in there for some 2019 expo convention

>>52515456
yes, most work is adult daycare that keeps people busy and paying taxes
/biz/ figured this out in like 2019 when we shared stories about how fucking pointless and retarded our office wagie jobs are.

>>52515622
And that's outward facing apps. Imagine how many internal apps they have.

>>52515456
I work at a financial institution rather than a tech company, but I'm a software engineer. New projects have lots of staffing but running projects don't. For example, a big data/ETL project starting out will have 3-5dev, 3qa, 2ops, project manager, data owners, project owner. Once the apps are completed you keep the ops people, and assign 1dev and one 1qa to flex into the project as needed for bug fixes and minor enhancements. It goes from 15+ FTE's plus offshore contractors to like 2.2 with the potential for 4. When big layoffs like this are happening they're transitioning projects to a "keep the lights on" status rather than active development. You keep your ops, key devs, and QA people and get rid of everyone else.

>>52515456
More like 90%

>>52515456
That's a man

>>52515757

>>52515760

>>52515757
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>>52515776
Oh gaaawd..... make it stop!

>>52515482
This. Just because someone works in a tech company doesn't mean that they are tech workers.

>>52515520
>then

these tiktoks make me understand klaus swab and trumps op warp speed

Fact of the matter is most companies survive off of the labor of a few exceptional individuals who get all of the work piled onto them. Everyone else is just riding the gravy train.

>>52515757
One day these webms won't make me want to kill myself
Her daily life costs more than what I make all year.
For low tier wagies like myself, idk what joy people get from this life. You sweat your ass off and some roastie says "yeah but what if we got done faster haha" and goes back to her office to sit around and eat the pizza they bought just for the managers.

I'm really thinking I either learn to code or rope very soon

>>52515757
Women just can't stop attention whoring even when it's detrimental to them.

>>52515884
>exceptional individuals
Or idiots could be another way to describe them.

I used to be one.

Now I'm neeting it up & fixing up my home. Comfy in bed right now. Ah. Toasty. Warm.

>>52515585
I am looking forward to companies having to be more selective with the stuff they work on. There's been a lot of trash pushed out to people just to have growth for growth's sake. I swear the company I work for has remade the same product 4 times now with slightly different branding, yet the manager had the engineers completely remake each one. All this and that product didn't net any money! So wasteful!

>>52515456
i wanna go to a club and find a girl like that with some guy all over her who thinks hes tough shit and just fucking cold clock him

>>52515971
>nnNNaaaaaaaaaaay
>[galloping clip clop intensifies]

>>52515826
God damn she's beautiful

>>52515456
During bull market, when the interest rates are low, PR is everything, the better PR you got the more money you will raise. If big investors (think WEF) want diversity, you hire a shitload of black women.

Enter the bear market, interests are rising and investments are drying up. Now your company has to actually make financial sense. You no longer compete on the arena of public perception, but rather on your product, cost efficiency, etc. Regular capitalist shit.

The owners know it but they will lie to your face. Why do you think Elon Musk got such a bad rep the whole time? He wasn't competing in this bullshit game, staying true to capitalism the whole time. That's how he's outcompeting everyone.

Basically, market green - socialism, market red - capitalism

Do you understand why he bought Twitter? The most socialist, diverse company?

>>52515456
Anybody that was able to work from home during covid doesn't have a real job.

>>52515456
The purpose of the tech industry is to siphon off intelligent humans so they don't sympathize with other humans and try to survive the AI machine eradication. We pay them to sit around so they don't use their intelligence to survive.

>>52515456
>Are tech companies just packed with lattee siping 20 something millennial tech grads who do useless zoom meetings all day?
yes
t. FAGMAN engineer

>>52515757
>w
isn't that wall street's logo?

>>52515456
Who is this semen demon?

it just doesnt make sense to me, dont women know they're fucking useless at these jobs? Don't they feel a little bit of shame? Or do they actually think they're needed?

also, isn't a bunch of amenities like a coffee bar and shit a telltale sign that the company has little qualms blowing money on useless shit but will have absolutely no problem axing you and your favorite "day in the life intern tiktoker" once shit hits the fan?

>>52515826
all this and she still looks fucking haggard

Yes.

Because 99.99% of companies pay more attention to how employees 'feel' as opposed to kpi figures.

On top of this until shit actually gets really bad 99% of companies won't lay people off because it's hard with the nightmare that is contract and employment law.

So we go in cycles of fuckery.. endlessly repeating..

Life is just a bunch of cycles as we do well.. too well.. then cool off... sometimes with more extremes.

Rinse repeat.

>>52516166
women are fucking oblivious
they've been told their whole lives they are special
they spent their entire schooling getting worshipped for being female
they spend their entire 20s and 30s being worshipped for being female and getting diversity hired
its only when they hit the wall that they finally get what they deserve

>>52515575
>they themselves are NEVER part of that 80%. it's always everyone else, right?
go ask >>>/g/twg about that LMAO
most of us just don't care

>>52516259
it's literally adult day care for smart people so they don't use their intelligence for anything real.

>>52516263
nah, it's not that. the thing is, we tech people are the ones running the show under capitalism now, so you might as well pay us well and keep a bunch of us employed, just in case someone finds a way to make millions or even billions, otherwise things might get ugly (servers disconnecting, whole networks falling, ...)

I bet elon musk is currently making many, MANY enemies...

>>52516188
I think the next "cool off" will be catastrophic.

>>52516287
Beyond searching for information, the internet is totally useless. You are in smart people day care so you don't try to resist the AI/machine take over of society.
"They" are afraid of you all becoming "cypherpunks" or worse.

I’ve been talking about this forever. Google literally could run on 1% of its workforce. That’s actually bullish for tech.

>>52516298
Essentially you are a fool-whore allowed to think you are a king while building the same systems that will end you and every other human being.

>>52516066
why did he? please expand?

First off, some of these software companies are extremely efficiient in what they do so they can have a ton of garbage and do well.

Also, we're at the end of a credit expansion cycle, this last phase could last a few years more, the population growth demands more from natural resources and energy and productivity doesn't keep up. I live in a europoor country and in every town I go to I see a skyline of cranes, you have a guaranteed job in construction and the trades. In the following years the trend will continue with the hiking interest rates and "real" jobs like mechanical, oil engineers, trades, etc. gaining in value and good tech job will get more scarce.

Once this period ends, another "catastrophe" will arise, rug everyone and stimulus deployed again to expand credit once the "real" resources produces are abundant, but can take more than ten years.

If you prepare correctly you have investment ideas for a lifetime switching between leveraged debt stocks, commodities and bond exposure (and perhaps some crypto moons).

>>52515511
>price's law
interesting

>>52515757
I'd rather be the sandwich making guy x1000 than have to live the pretentious life of whatever the hell those "tech consultants" are doing

but not gonna lie, i find it strangely and uncomfortably fascinating and mesmerizing to see the images of these women's seflie videos of them staring into the camera and self obsessing self worshipping themselfs

its repulsive and disgusting to see the narcissism but i cant look away

>>52515456
Software developer here. The difference is that the remaining staff is overworked now. This is the second time in my career that I survive layoffs and everyone else is pushed to the edge. It is NOT sustainable and people just burn out and either quit, or problems start to pop up because quality drops. Creativity also drops to zero and everything is just about surviving.
Yes, tech companies have a lot of bullshit jobs and they throw money around, but that is the environment needed to keep the cream of the crop of talent around.
>>52516074
I was literally programming software that your ISP is very likely using.
>inb4 I don't need internet
You don't need air as well, you can just neck yourself and die in under a minute and the world will keep turning.

>>52515607
The goy need to think they're winning so they don't realize how hard they've been getting fucked

>>52515456
I hate women so much.

>>52516665
You need air to survive, I can live without twitter and youtube just fine.

Sounds like you need a special packaged shipped to your mail box.

The interesting thing is if you're idling in one of these jobs it can easily destroy your self-esteem. Most normal people aren't shameless parasites and can tell if they're actually not useful, but aren't going to let go of easy money. The problem is you can't use the extra money to buy back good feelings. Hence the widespread antidepressant use etc.

I get paid 200K to cut and paste SQL from the Internet. It's Magic.

>>52516699
That's like saying that you don't need electricity because you can survive without TV. But guess what, whatever place you live in won't last a month without electricity. We need electricity to distribute energy efficiently because unlike the past, we can't rely on woodfire. There are just too many people, even where YOU live. If you want to cook food and have clean water, you need electricity.
You have no idea how vital the internet is to the world economy, and not only the first world. The internet has become almost as important as electricity.
People will literally start starving to death without the internet. Internet is not just youtube and twitter. It is the foundation upon which the economy runs. We don't have the equipment, the infrastructure, and the talent to go back to 70s style economy that was based on paperwork and telephony.

>>52516166
They believe that the work they do is the same work men do. Women are entirely oblivious to the fact they play life on Tutorial Mode.

>>52515511
doesnt apply to most situations, only jobs are network based like sales or research

>>52516765
millions of humans live quite normally without internet right now

You and your job are not necessary for survival.

I will say again, you need a package shipped to your mailbox.

>>52516838
what this 1990?
even the poorest shitskin in non wartorn 3rd world country has internet in 2022

>>52515575
I work 1h per week but invoice says 50h
I am the useless kubernetes engineer senior architect made from devops
Ill start working more when 90% of useless fags are fired
Until then
Fuck off Im busy with 4chan and reading my books

>>52516858
having access to internet =/= needing it to survive

Not only do you have a bullshit job, but you have abysmal reading comprehension.

>>52516889
>I work 1h per week but invoice says 50h
>I am the useless kubernetes engineer senior architect made from devops
>Ill start working more when 90% of useless fags are fired
>Until then
>Fuck off Im busy with 4chan and reading my books
h-how do i achieve this level of awesomeness?

>>52516900
>live quite normally
no u faget

>>52516912
Have a brain, stop fapping to cartoons

>>52516958
>cartoons
They're not "Cartoons", Dad!
It's 'Anime'!

>>52515456
>Is our workforce really that redundant?
Yes
>How can tech companies fire 10%-20% of staff and continue functioning normally?
Marketing, recruitment, diversity and inclusion
>Are tech companies just packed with lattee siping 20 something millennial tech grads who do useless zoom meetings all day?
Yes, see above

>>52516889
I am studying to get into devops / cloud computing. Do you have any tips on how to secure an entry level role? And do you have any tips on how to achieve wfh-do-nothing later in my career?

>>52516007
*PUNCH* go back to India.

>>52515826
did this retard just go out to get a coffee while working from home?

>>52516838
>ESL-tier reading comprehension
Is there a point in explaining this further? There is internet for consumers and there is internet upon which a country's infrastructure runs on. Even most African countries rely on the internet. Unless you are North Korea or Swaziland, your country heavily relies on internet to move goods and infromation around.
Moron.

>>52515456

this is the most perfect girl ive ever seen

can you imagine how soft and sweet her little perfect perfumed puss puss would be

oh my god

oh my fucking god she's perfect

just imagine getting to tuck your raging hard pre-cumming cock into that poosay for her first time while her dad secretly watches through the window

imagine bros imagine aaaaaaaghhhhhhhhhhhhhh im cooming aaaaaaaggggghhhhhhhhh

in the future when it gets like detroit become human im getting a robo girl just like this

>>52517114
>while her dad secretly watches through the window
wtf is wrong with you?

>>52516294
Yes, to the latte sipping subhumans.
If you have any functioning brain cells, you would have seen the writing on the wall and prepared accordingly.

Am prepping hard and hoping that when shit finally hits the fan, i will be on the winning side.

>>52515885
I feel you heavily anon. I'm so tired of stomaching this broken world, I can't cope with the fact that there is a better life out there, and yet it seems like for the people like us, it's out of reach, and any glimmer of hope I seem to find always ends up the same way, with someone selling you some miraculous course on how to get out of this hellhole, same bullshit over and over.

imagine if hitler got his way and there were hundreds of millions of aryan cuties like these?

>>52516765
wow, sounds like an extremely valuable job. surely you get paid 100k+ even mechanics can make that much if they have a ton of work to do

>>52516263
>adult day care for smart people so they don't use their intelligence for anything real.
This is true it serves to deny more fags like Aron Schwarz deny breakdown of copyright and "intellectual propertah"
The smart ones are also in the trap>>52516287

>>52515575
most tech do not make profits its 95% bankruptcies

>>52515760
this person likely makes several times the average wage. let that sink in

>>52515456
Yes

>>52516188

kpi is actual autism. worked at gnc years ago and everday some retard roidhead higher up would call in and flame us about how we didnt sell shit. it was a shit location but even the best location barely makes money cause its an obsolete business

>>52515776
>9-5
>arrives after 10
>leaves before 5

I still have no idea what happens between 12:35 and 3:30, but if her punctuality is any indication, it's probably absolutely nothing useful, or else there would be a problem with her arriving over an hour late as the norm.

>>52516912
Dont have a life as a teenager or college student, while everyone else is at party and fucking you are compiling linux kernel and recompiling gentoo with better gcc flags.
>>52517063
See ^

>>52515575
It's positions held by women so yes.

>>52517100
Why wouldn't you?

>>52515826
would love to see a talichad come in at the end and whip the living shit out of her

>>52517503
I can make my own coffee that costs around 15 times less and taste better.

>>52517374
>Americans are fat, lazy, retards who are over paid.
No shit? I hope Putin just sends a few nukes to America, even if I'm in the blast radius.

>>52515520
>(managing 40 people is deemed more successful then 8)
This is also why crypto autists remain virgins. No amount of millions can compensate for having a complete lack of underlings.

>>52515456
Twitter is no longer obligated to fulfill government propaganda contracts.

>>52515575
Some anon yesterday was complaining about the useless women employees at twitter, and then said he wfh and only spends 10% of his time working and the rest doing his own shit. He spent a lot of effort trying to justify it.

>>52516665
doesn't matter. you will finish the work. oh, you can have another job in a day that pays even more? you have recruiters sending you job offers all the time? that's good, because you're done. get the fuck out.

>>52515607
I think this Anon is onto something.
Based noooticer.

>>52515456
Tailless women are redundant.

someone post the software engineer pastas

>>52515456
you faggots continue to seethe day in and day out about people who actually make money

>>52518331
>spamming /biz/ multiple times with this shit

i'm sorry your step father shoved his fist up your ass every night from ages 4 to 14, the effects of which yielded this deranged furfag fetish, but the rest of the world doesn't want to see this shit. fuck off back to /b/.

>>52517533
based home brew enjoyer

>>52515575
Lots of people admit to anyone except their own boss or coworkers that they don't do much/anything productive. The whole "bullshit jobs" thing came from people admitting their own jobs are bullshit.

>>52515456
>Are tech companies just packed with lattee siping 20 something millennial tech grads who do useless zoom meetings all day?
Yes, yes and yes.

And I say that as a millennial tech grad that has wasted half his life in awful meetings and sips quite a lot of coffee per day too.

>>52518550
based coffee sips

>>52515456
this really makes the case for unions. These babies at Twitter would still be employed if they had a union.

>>52515456
Post-industrialization politics is all about "job creation". Creating pointless loops where one guy digs a ditch and another fills it up. Importing more ditch diggers counts as GDP growth.
Public tech companies are all about creating the impression of a lot of stuff going on. Buy fancy buildings and fill them with roasties pretending to work.

>>52518629
>GDP
imagine 10 hasidic jews sitting in a circle, passing a shekel back and forth continuously for 1 year.

>>52516298
You are a dumb nigger if you think the internets only use case is searching for information lmao. The absolute state of Polcel pseuds.

>>52518916
>search for info is a win win
>social communication comes at the price of hyper surveillance so it's a net loss
>ease of commerce, but oh, it's all under surveillance and centralized into mega corps and you will own nothing and be happy
Internets only non-conditional win is the web search engine.

>>52515456
There was an old saying that if someone in the office took a year's vacation. No one would know they were gone. If the guy who swept the floors called in sick for one day. Everybody would know he was gone.

>>52516725
Money actually can buy happiness, but people are too retarded to know what happiness actually is. It's also not instantaneous, but availability of funds means you can invest in community building projects that stimulate your brain naturally and help you build a holistic lifestyle, by which I mean both mental, physical and spiritual health.

>>52515776
>9-5
>doesnt get to work until almost 11
holy fuck

>>52515456
>Is our workforce really that redundant?

Yes, of course.

>>52515456

It's even worse than that. Most large companies (not just tech) have fallen into the superfluous corrupt bureaucracy trap.

Insanely top heavy companies where administrators, admin assistants, assistants of assistants, and various HR personnel dominate the upper echelons of a company. Especially tech companies.

Meanwhile the productive group is understaffed and overworked to help bloat the salaries of the useless facebooker, tiktokker, and twitterer vermin. They send a few emails, check a few web stats, hold a meeting or two, then fuck around the rest of the time.

Working Exec support really opened my eyes as to how utterly fucking useless business major leeches and their HR lapdogs are. Most of our companies are insanely overvalued, and held up largely by name.

>>52515456
>Are tech companies just packed with lattee siping 20 something millennial tech grads who do useless zoom meetings all day?
Yes

>>52515885
These fucking yuppie bitches are souless husis of human beings. They're on autopilot.

>>52515456
10% of employees produce 50% of the value

>>52516166
They don't care so long as the money is pouring in and they can make tiktok videos of their pointless lives. Also 100% are on antidepressants

>>52516633
This. Watching these yuppies princesses go around eating and drinking coffee is really fascinating guven how meaningless their existence is. They'll all likely have existential crisis but be confused why their hypermaterial fake social lives are so unfulfilling

>>52517405
>what happens fir most of the day
She makes social media posts complaining about men

>>52515456
I'd say in the companies I've worked in 30%+ of employees add no value. Particularly those working in product management/BA roles, team leads and low performing developers. Firing 10-20% might actually result in increased productivity.

>>52518618
They'd have to do real work if they were unionized

>>52518629
>Buy fancy buildings and fill them with roasties pretending to work.
yuppie capitalism since the 1980s

>>52519762
based and true
>t. high performing dev

>>52517405
2:00-3:30 is the actual work performed
probably making a powerpoint if we're being honest

>>52515884
Yes this is about right. Just yesterday, there was an outstanding task that wasn't my responsibility. No one did anything abut it for 48 hours, so I suggested a plan via email, with me doing 40% of the work.

I swear 5 minutes later, 3 women sent emails "organizing," and "elaborating" on my plan to complete the task.

>>52519458
>Working Exec support really opened my eyes as to how utterly fucking useless business major leeches and their HR lapdogs are
Dan lyons wrote a couple books about this. Tldr its basically drama fueled hell with yuppie bitches constantly making life worse for everyone

>>52515456
Most office jobs entail supporting alot of unnecessary mind numbing bureaucracy.

>>52515456
Also the investment banks have been doing this since the 90s. Getting rid of your dead wood is not a bad thing, despite what the left would have you believe.

>>52515520
Now imagine all of these have human-tier consciousness and self-awareness. And then imagine feeding them all one by one to a hungry wolfgirl who swallows them whole and pats her belly every time one arrives inside.

>>52515760
>Black girl but with the body and hair of a white girl
Imagine being this cursed, like you are already born black but on top of that you dont even have the good features of black girls (curvy body, fat ass, nappy hair, etc.). A true curse

>>52517606
>praying that worlds biggest pussy will not be a pussy
lmao

Source?

>>52515456
>Is our workforce really that redundant?

Yes, you're lucky to have 1 coworker in 5 that actually puts in any effort and is skilled and knowledgeable.

>>52515456
Everything is redundant OP. We dont need tech. We dont need to live like this and its destroying itself for us. Humans lived fine for several thousand years before the industrial revolution. We dont need such a big workforce they are just there to be paypigs to be drained in useless service/junk selling companies to cater to the worthless workforce. Tech is dying along with the post industrial society. Isaac newton could have never existed and we would be fine. Civilization was working without any big crashes and economic problems in the 12th century. Most humans belong on a farm farming and reproducing others to farm until the end of earth they dont deserve the jobs of the 21st century its a blip in time and we are going back to 17th century levels where things were more stable. People will be trapped in local areas again and global communications will fade away to be remembered as myth beyond our lifetimes.

>>52518618
They wouldn't have been hired in the first place, the only reason they overloaded on employees is because they knew it would be easy to fire them eventually. Trade unionists are room temperature IQ, they never think about how people would actually make decisions in a unionized industry, they just assume everything will be the same except with more pay and no layoffs. Morons.

>>52519877
Scratch that, imagine >>52518331 feeding this fine dame. Hot as hell

>>52519977
>Civilization was working without any big crashes and economic problems in the 12th century.

Holy fuck you have no idea what you're talking about. Their economic crashes were called 'famines'. In the 17th century people invested in trade expeditions to the other side of the globe. The past was not so different, zoomer, you should try reading about it sometime instead of making assumptions based on the way peasants are depicted in your fantasy video games.

>>52520247
Famines were necessary external pressures to keep society in check and genetics healthy. Everything post discovery of laws of mechanics is an attempt to keep famines away. The decay is necessary and tech will go away in time so we have these famines again. Several billion need to starve and physically fight for food then we see a real return to normal. These laid off workers are the start, without fiat for their starbucks drinks the games begin.

>>52519762
>Particularly those working in product management/BA roles
My internship this summer was under two product managers and my degree is in business analytics.
I hope you're wrong or at least managers don't wise up because I'm scared of the recession that's supposed to come.
I will say Funnily enough my desk was right beside a work spot of the engineers at this orthopedics company. To be honest they were not 'hardcore' at the very least like Elon Musk would demand. They were creating implants and seemed to pretty much be winging it. They wouldn't know what to create if we didn't have our market research to inform them either.

>>52520382
He means business ADMINISTRATION not analysis you tool

>>52520396

>>52520396
No, I meant business analysts.

>>52520408
Is this the power of big data analytics

>>52515456
What do I even say to a girl like that?

>>52520434
Well fine then but then the other guy has a point. Don't say i didnt warn you

>>52515456
yes.

>>52520450
You show her your apu meme collection

>>52515456
They're not laying off the engineers. I work at a B2B tech company. We have tons and tons of staff who do internal IT, Human Resources, diversity, purchases, policy compliance and a host of other functions which has NOTHING to do with servicing our paying customers. They're all internal roles, all coasting off the money we make from what our product and engineering teams build, and that our account management and sales & consulting teams sell. Some of them are alright (like payroll, thanks for paying my salary!) but I'm wondering how much a 20-something "digital transformation consultant" really contributes to our bottom line.

Disclaimer: I'm in engineering but for political reasons my projects usually get scrapped. So in a way I'm as useless as an HR girl.

>>52520450
Depends on how attractive you are.

>>52520450
In this day and age nothing. No not even "Can I buy you a drink", they expect that. If she doesn't give you direct or strong indirect signals she's intrested, then don't do anything.
t. a guy who actually gets laid

>>52520450
if she's eyefucking you the same way as the camera, then you can say literally anything
your foot is already in the door

making her laugh within 10 seconds of locking eyes will cement her interest

>>52516765
I'm a software dev too and I say you're a faggot

>>52520323
Enjoy your starvation I guess

>>52519458
This hits so hard you cannot imagine..

>>52516689
based
Only reasonable reaction to that webm

>>52515575
I've done around an hour of work in the past 3 weeks.

>>52516889
So you have a made up job just like HR roasties? A regular SWE can do your job retard, stop deluding yourself.

>>52515520
>Overhead comes when people want to enlarge their importance and position within a company (managing 40 people is deemed more successful then 8)

I always wondered and that actually makes sense, thanks

Not just redundant, but actively harming the business

>>52520450
"How old are you" is the only thing you should ask her

>>52515456
Good thing I had the foresight to get a government job right before all of this.
Slightly less pay than other jobs (even though it's similar per hour), but guaranteed pay rises through even the worst recession and it's essentially impossible to fire me.

>>52517713
>underlings
Literally kill thyself.

>>52515456
Millennials aren't in their 20s anymore. That's Gen Z.

>>52515456
> what is Price's Law
>50% of the work is done by the square root of the total number of people who participate in the work.
In a company of 10k people, only 100 are generating half the output, the challenge is to know who these 100 are and not fire them when you fire half the company. You drop a few useless projects and then you re easily back on track

>>52522776
The youngest millennials are about 27-28.

>>52515480
Why is it so impossible to actually get one of these jobs? Is it really just a matter of distributing favors propping up associates?

>>52522891
price's law is bullshit

>>52515456
some personnel were to fill in for roles needed as the company grew. as growth dims, the need for excess people diminishes

>>52515545
Yeah. I usually find about 20% of the people are carrying the load. The rest are freeloaders.

>>52516665
>everyone being pushed to the edge
unlikely, pussy. keep waging. gotta pay for that 2 million dollar shit shack you live in. you do have equity in it even in a down market, right anon?
>software developer
useless. upgrading for upgrades sake is the snake eating its tail.

>>52515456
Companies hire workers in anticipation of growth and turnover. When times are good, this can lead to a lot of redundant hiring and quality of hires can be low. Through a combination of nepotism and office politics, these low quality hires are able to remain with the organization. But, when times get bad, companies are no longer able to tolerant redundant and useless employees, so they get laid off.

>>52516074
>doesn't have a real job

What the hell is a real job?

modern leftist realized this years ago, anarchists specifically
look into "bullshit jobs"

>>52520450
turn 360 and walk away
that woman will bring you nothing but pain

>>52524332
>What the hell is a real job?
the kind where you actual do real work
now get a haircut, and get a real job, clean your act up an don't be a slob, get it together like your big brother Bob.
why dont you
get a haircut
and get a real job

>>52524453
But you haven't answered the question. What is a real job? What is real work? I'm not trying to troll or start a fight.

I've worked manual labor before. One of them was a gig. There were strangers who jeered at me for not having a real job. I thought was because the job wasn't enough to make a living on.

Now I've a full time job that's work from home, and people like you say I don't have a real job. :/

>>52523278
>upgrading for upgrades sake is the snake eating its tail.
lmao
have fun dealing with your next security vulnerability that can and will literally bankrupt your shitshow of a company

>>52522933
No they’re 23

>>52515730
Jesus fucking christ.
fucking tech companies are no fucking different than dogshit Hollywood.
>get a job anon
>pay your taxes and save up for real estate anon
>who cares if they violate your civil right's anon at least your getting paid for them to violate your rights
kek what a circus.

>>52518349
you're that guy that sits on his ass all day and doesn't actually do shit but stare at a computer monitor, clown.

>>52516074
>who the fuck made this anon the arbiter of real jobs
You're that clown that probably has kids and tells them blue collar work is better than white collar.
You fucking indigent piece of shit, clown. They're the fucking same except about .001% of the population is laughing at all you.
You bitch baby.

>>52518283
Ever hear of technical debt? You are aware that it is common for large software projects to fail catastrophically because they rotted out from the inside, right? This can happen even if they appear to be working fine from the outside.

Quit jerking off fantasizing about being a boss.

>>52519877
>>52520184
Based

>>52517713
tfw Corporate Feudalism is real

>>52517533
Youre a virgin aren't you

>>52525222
>>52525000
checked.

>>52515776
Do women just see the world in terms of what they ate on any given day? Like is food the meaning of life for them and everything else is just background noise?

>>52525343
Are you 6 years old? Of course women are infantile and produce nothing of value outside of their biological imperative. Holy fuck you newfaggots need to go back

>>52515456
most white collar jobs are indeed redundant. New Fiscal year happens, the dept, gets more money, and a chunk of that is spent of recruitment. Why? so more of the work is spread out lightening the workload of everyone. This is how you end up with people that get nothing done. because there is nothing to do. So they read emails and have meetings for a majority of their day. the rest is spent in excell looking over data, or delegating tasks.
I work in Trucking now having previously worked in and around tech. the level of task saturation i experience would be considered inhuman by most tech workers. Most trucking terminals, in terms of management, work on the most skeleton of crews. one person is generally responsible for 20 dock workers, planning routes for 30+ LH drivers, load factor, freight management, equipment levels, and processing data that is generally an hour late. Any other industry, 10 people would be dedicated to all of that.
again, yes. most jobs are redundant and can be done by a vastly smaller crew.

>>52515776
Man I’d sack her so hard the interns she took to lunch would never work again

>>52517273
We would still be cucked becuase they would be dating SS Chads

At least now you can fuck escorts like her if you spend and look around enough, but soon they want to ban escorts too

>>52516689
>I hate not being a Chad that can fuck girls like webm
fixed

>>52515456
what ethnicity is this

>>52515850
It actually only takes 2 weeks to develop an rna Covid vaccine. More than they to manufacture. All the rest of the time is testing.

>>52515909
>Or idiots could be another way to describe them.
>I used to be one.
>Now I'm neeting it up & fixing up my home. Comfy in bed right now. Ah. Toasty. Warm.
Fist bump. I'm sitting in my computer chair buck fucking naked eating cookies. I worked out today, made a dentist appointment, Christmas shopped, and prepared for a new kitchen oven to arrive. I shudder thinking about the giga-waste of my old life.
>gotta shave to "look professional"
>better tie this tie correctly to "look professional for clients" (that I don't see)
>better make sure I coordinate my clothes... gotta look professional
>good thing my suit was dry cleaned .... to look... you guessed it... professional
>1.5 hours in the car every work day so I can suck myself off reading news articles for half the day ... but in an office to... you guessed it... look professional
When I think about how much of my time I wasted each day to "look professional" for imaginary people that "needed" me to look "professional" just to relive high school in a "special building downtown"... it really pisses me off.

Then I think about how I was the "best" analyst they had working right under the chief credit officer (who was an absolute gangster of a person, very hard worker)... and when I would finish my work within 3 hours I would have to look busy the rest of the day while secretly reading news articles... my fucking god. Fuck American corporate culture.

>>52516166
Do wives feel shame for leeching off their husband’s? Women don’t care about being productive for the sake of contributing to society. They feel their co tribute on to society is to conform to societies rules and to produce a kid if they’re sensible. They don’t even feel that much of they’re full leeches. Women feel that reality owes them safety. That’s how unrealistic they are.

>>52517114
I’ve saved the webm so that when we can get robot wives I’ll send it to them as my request. When I fucked an 18 year old blonde like her she had massive beef curtains. Imagination is usually better than reality.

>>52515884
>companies survive off labor of exceptional individuals who hard carry corporate
Those individuals are called illegal immigrants.
And if they're not illegal they got hired through immigration firms and corporate sponsored federally governed contracts, clown.

>>52515575
ive automated my job. i go on meetings and keep my mousemover.exe and go to strip clubs during the day and grope titties

>>52520450
Well I would start with "Hi!" and go from there.

>>52515456
Yes.

All these foodies tiktok are a clear macro top signal. Tech is starting his worst depression. Short tech long defence, weapons, strategic resources
Short feminization all the way to the bottom. In 20 years the balance will be restored : men doing dirty work and women at home with children.

>>52525797
> Imagination is usually better than reality.
The truth! Even if they don't have beef curtains, they're just people. Parts of them smell. Sometimes you like the smell, sometimes you don't. Sometimes they're drenched with sweat and makeup all fucked up and nasty rubbing a vagina that smells like dirty milk and coins on your face and you think to yourself, "It wasn't supposed to end like this. I don't know how I'm going to get through it." Then you take off their clothes and their tits manage to sag like bananas even though they're only an A cup and their nipples like like helicopter landing pads. And they really, REALLY need you to make them feel beautiful so you're pressured to lie to them like "oh gawd ur so hot" even though you want to chuck them into the closest shower and yell, "It puts the soap on the skin or it gets the hose again!" And even IF you get through all of this.... there's no guarantee her pussy will be tight enough to squeeze through the cocaine and zombie death grip dick you've induced from months of shameless masturbation at home. So now you've got a caked out banana saggin wizard sleeve begging for your love while her face melts all over your sheets bent over taking a mauling from your coke dick praying to God you could just nut already. But God can't hear you.

People are people. OP's girl looks delicious... but only God knows if the sex will be a dream or a nightmare.

>>52525994
I used to only work half the day and spend the other half playing video games. Now those were the days.

>>52526280
>Short feminization all the way to the bottom. In 20 years the balance will be restored : men doing dirty work and women at home with children.
Meanwhile in reality fertility is all time low and the rate of decrease is accelerating. Sexual activity is the lowest on record. Boomers killed sex, there's no gender role revolution coming.

>>52515456
2/10
She has a baby face

>>52526316
Yes right now but after a generation (20-25 year) people will have no choice : you want electricity to avoid freezing to death and letting your kids die in the cold ? Now take that coal out of the mine quick!

>>52526377
no the system will keep people at some level of comfort right up until it completely, irrecoverably collapses, around the time when 70-80% of the white population is over 60
short western civilization to 0

>>52526280
>in 20 years
try 60-100

>>52515456
I estimate that we could easily fire 30% and it would have no affect whatsoever.

>>52525575
>not trying to get into the waffen ss
Hitler did not ban prostitution aswell
Also it would be normal that woman get married in the early 20s so a lot of people would get one. Also woman would choose better since now they mostly choose from criteria what the media tells them, and well it would be similar i think but the media would be good

>>52525575
>not trying to get into the waffen ss
Hitler did not ban prostitution aswell
Also it would be normal that woman get married in the early 20s so a lot of people would get one. Also woman would choose better since now they mostly choose from criteria what the media tells them, and well it would be similar i think but the media would be good

>>52529945
But yeah manlet need not to apply

>>52529945
But yeah manlet need not to apply

Tbh I think it might me a burger issue. I used to work at a burger company's office in eastern EU and we had like 15 people in our part of the 'marketing department.' The weight was pulled by me and two other guys. Later one of them quit and a girl took over his duties. The rest were just dead weight that did the occasional task once or twice a week. Funniest part is that the three of us that carried the weight needed just 3-4 hours a day to finish our shit. I have no idea how the company (it is small) is not bankrupt yet with their management. We could have literally been 3 people in the office and would be getting the same job done. If they paid us like 30% of the wages of the unnecessary dead weight, we could have done miracles I assume. But this culture or whatever it is kills any desire for progress and development - day after day seeing people being useless, arriving 3 hours late, leaving 2 hours early, and taking 2 hour lunch breaks. I mean I did the same but at least I got some shit done

>>52525575
even a surplus 6/10 aryan then would be like a 9/10 now

>>52515575
As someone who doesn't do much of the work and just does design and quoting, I can identify the people who do work. I don't but I can justify my role very easily still. If I was ever fired I could get a productive job easily.

>>52516166
kind of >>52516769
Women think they do the same work, they get themselves overly stressed over simple or repetitive tasks, then demand more money due to their stress levels which would be 1/10th of a guys stress level in the same job.

>>52526280
This would be a best case scenario
more likely the way i see it everything going on now is going to put us right back into the dark ages
the elites think its funny playing their mind fuck games on the world pushing the radical left wokism and LGBTQ+s2BLM and every other identity politics cards they can play

it is utterly destroying the world. cancel culture. if they don't succeed in rebuilding it into whatever fucked up fantasy ideological world they have planned, it is going back to the dark ages. and well be 1000s of years climbign our of that mess again.
just look how long it took "modern man" to get where we are form our most recent primitive livings. not that long a i suppose, 2000 years, with the last 200 years being the exponential advancement of course.
but if these idiots put us into the dark ages, we could lose everything and be back to square one of 2000 years ago

>>52519879
Every negress dreams of having the hair of white girl you fucking retard, that's why that one went to so much effort to straighten hers, weave for blacks alone in the US is a ten billion dollar a year industry

>>52531330
That’s kinda sad black girls should just accept themselves fuck Jews man

>>52531260
Lad, in yesterday it was easy to burn library's and erase history. Today it's much harder to burn the internet.

It's dire -- but they lost and know it.

>>52515456
I've just started this book called Bullshit Jobs. Honestly, I think 75-85% of white collar jobs are bullshit and there to tick a box or look busy, providing zero value to the actual business. I say this as someone with a massively bullshit job (I charge £600 per day to write sql/python for reports that business users will never open)

>>52516763
are you a data engineer ?

>>52515776
And here I am commuting 140 miles round trip, anywhere from 12 to 14 hours on any given day, busting my ass sampling concrete and logging boreholes, and I'm probably making 1/3rd of what this useless foid makes.

>>52532463
You’re the retard that keeps this charade going kek

>>52520450
"Grug like you bunda. You want humpa humpa?"

>>52532292
i would bet most of those bs jobs have a purpose. either on a "social manpower" basis ie HR, networking basis or regulatory basis.
their role is not to create revenue but avoid costs.

>>52515607
Noticing things is antisemetic

soijack

>>52532512
Avoid costs whilst being a massive cost centre themselves. I was a management consultant before I went independent, believe me, I genuinely feel that any corporate company could cut their headcount by 75% and still remain fully operational. Adopting streamlined software to replace pen pushers is much easier when the friction caused by said pen pushers have left the company.

Look at an early-stage tech startup and their team might consist of several engineers, a sales lead and maybe marketing. HC is low and output is high; plenty of these have turned into scale-ups without significantly increasing headcount (Notion for example, or Instagram before they were acquired). It's when they get a plush funding round is when the bullshit jobs come into play, that then inevitably leads to massive cuts across the board when the good times end (cashflow issues, negative macro economic outlook etc.).

Then, take a look at the giants who are pushing $500k-$1.5m profit per employee; Amazon, Microsoft, Apple etc. PPE justifies all the positions, but as soon as that starts dipping, cuts begin to happen - so they can rebalance and get back to the previous PPE they are at.

>>52531260
Maintaining our knowledge on technological advancements is all that we need. Just because one side of the globe loses its civilization, it does not mean that the whole world regresses. Ancient Rome collapsed, East became the predominant center of development while Europe was plummeted in the Medieval ages until the Portuguese discovered the seas and created new trade routes for Western Europe to gather resources and accumulate wealth and catapulted the industrial age which cemented the West again as the revolutionary force of technological progress. Anything short of a Bronze Age Collapse, humanity will find its way back - just at a steeper pace until something clicks again. It's been like that from time immemorial.

>>52532260
>Today it's much harder to burn the internet.
turns off the electricity
pssht, nothing personal kid


there are some key findamentals involved. to wit, the dumbing down of civvies is drastically and dangerously reducing the percentage of qualified techincally and mechanically skilled person who are able to build, repair, maintain and operate computers, machinery, etcetera

there has been studies of course, to evaluate this throretical scenario, whereby, once you have below the minimum percetnage of popultion comprised of said skilled persons, electriations, mechanics, doctors, nurses, lab specialists, machinists, carpenters, plumbers, engineers, botanists, chemists, biologists, foresters, mason, foundry workers, artisans of all sorts, farmers, ranchers, blacksmiths, etc
the service and he skill and ability is gone, lost and can not practically hold up civilization at any status quo
i.e., the world crumbles around us

>>52532463
get a new job. if you put up with commuting hundreds of miles a day for business purposes in the year 2022, you're an idiot. no one cares if you have a """real job.""" society sure as fuck doesn't care, which is why you make fuck all for money despite working like a niggerslave.

>>52532709
>startup funding
well in that case they have a clear purpose: pad the numbers so they can get more funding

>>52526495
America is like Sears and racist white people who have disengaged from society are Amazon, and it's roughly 2002

>>52532874
>"muh racist white people"

>>52532292
the only bs job was the job that guy got for writing that bs book

running a business is fucking hard and there's no room for slack when times get tight like now

>>52515456
Happens at the end of the cycle. The oil industry was forced to cull much of its white collar bloat. Centers like Houston and Calgary still have very high office vacancies despite the companies largely having much better bottom lines.

>>52515456
>How can tech companies fire 10%-20% of staff and continue functioning normally?
Because when everyone was staying at home they saw more traffic and retards like Zuckerberg and co thought this was going to continue growing for eternity

>>52523099
because you and your family did not worship moloch over the last few generations.

>>52532292

Aren't most governments jobs BS then? How is the government even still running? Its all paper pushers jobs.

>>52515456
She looks a lot like the girl I asked out in high school
I got rejected

>>52531330
That makes no sense to me, their black hair is exotic and theres something attractive about that, Why would they want to look like everyone else

>>52515826
grim

99% of gen z / younger millennial bitches just want a life that consists of gorging on food, traveling, chugging starbucks, getting a wasp-like body with a tiny waist and huge fat ass, and taking selfies of all the above

The only project I'm using rn is Bspin. coz:

>Strong casino with a Bitcoin as the playing currency
>Coming giveaway with $15K Prize Pool
>Huge amount of games, slots, LIVE, spins etc

>>52515456
every mid wit i knew in highschool that could maintain at least a B average has become a financial advisor at some mega bank

>>52515456
Majority of production now comes from computers/machines/robots. Employing as many people at 40 hours a week as we did in 2021 is pointless, unless of course you're at the top and need to keep the perpetual wealth transfer alive and well

>>52515456
Who is this angel? I need a name.

>>52516074
thank me the next time you use medicaid at the hospital and my sepsis algorithm detects your infection hours before the doctor does

>>52515456
I hate women so fucking much

>>52515760
holy fuck look at that side profile