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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shutdown/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. When P2Pool reaches 51% of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET!

If you have a PC or laptop:

1. Download Monero GUI
https://i.imgur.com/ZGefPef.png

2. Pick 'Advanced' mode
https://i.imgur.com/4c0uSE4.png

3. Set up your wallet
https://i.imgur.com/4lMKh00.png

4. Keep the default Daemon settings "Start a node automatically in the background"
https://i.imgur.com/maACmmT.png

5. Once sync'd, go to Advanced->Mining and pick 'P2Pool'. If you have a laptop or low-end PC (~50 kH/s) pick "Mini" pool, else pick "Main"
https://i.imgur.com/E60JeMG.png


>YOU CAN USE P2POOL-COMPATIBLE REMOTE NODES IF YOU DO NOT HAVE YOUR OWN LOCAL COPY OF THE BLOCKCHAIN
https://xmrvsbeast.com/p2pool/monero_nodes.html


OTHERWISE SWITCH TO A SMALLER POOL, IT TAKES YOU 30 SECONDS AND YOU CAN JUST SOURCE A DIFFERENT CONFIG FILE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FUCK UP YOUR EXISTING ONE.

Many inexperienced miners think that big pools give better profits which is not the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

DCA is for suckers. XMR at $70, BTC at $7k. Don't forget it.

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://monero.com/marketplace
https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/
https://acceptedhere.io/catalog/currency/xmr/

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (currently US only)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>AlphaBay
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market #
>Cloud Market #
>Dark Matter #
>Darkmoon #
>FilthyFellas
>Mellow Market #
>Retro Market #
Onion links: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/fs7ax


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Kilos
>Majestic Bank
>Elude
>Infinity Project
https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/8cunb


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Poker Club: play no-limit Texas Hold'em in real time with 2-8 players over the safety of Tor with the privacy of Monero! No user account required.
http://pokerggxmrvzecuo6afhucjwdljuve5eoavxdxdr6zedyejd6mvz5wad.onion

>XMR Poker
http://xmrpoker3icphjr7c6dgct3by44ph4xvxrds4jzwjkjh7h2owdf6icyd.onion


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://magicgrants.org/funds/monero/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

>>52434335
just so you guys know, if XMR goes to 70$ the fumo is on ice since ill spend all my money buying that dip.

>The irrational exuberance of cryptocurrency investors

Irrational exuberance is characterized as a hype-fueled mania that causes investors to massively overestimate an asset's real-world value. In this delusional state, investors tend to become so smitten with expectations of greater profits that they disregard the assets’ potentially weak fundamentals and drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.

This then leads to them recklessly and repeatedly buying into whatever asset is currently rising in the charts, thereby triggering and/or sustaining an asset bubble. This bubble is kept inflated solely by the mass delusion that the market price is justified and will only keep going up in future, effectively becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Note that bubbles can last for years, especially in an age of easy investor on-boarding. However, when history inevitably repeats and the bubble bursts that optimism invariably turns into panic as the asset crashes back down to its real-world value.

In finance, the "greater fool theory" suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets—items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value—if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.

In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, hoping that he can sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit. This only works as long as there are enough new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value, which in some cases could be zero.

This effect is often further exacerbated by herd mentality, whereby people hear stories of others who bought in early and made big profits, causing those who did not buy to feel a fear of missing out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g

Tapping in.

>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

>>52434276
Can Monero actually help me dodge paying taxes?

>>52434302
Based.

>>52434435
I thought glowies were tax exempt.

>>52434435
The tool is there. It is up to you to be creative in using it.

>>52434435
probably. if you have taxable income and want to transfer it to monero you could probably buy monero and "use it to buy stuff" (from yourself).

>>52434276
I think it's time to start thinking about a simpler summary for the /xmr general/, maybe the same 6 long posts every single thread are not necessary.
I believe we've reached a point where most people on /biz/ already know what monero is and we could make it a more compact and user-friendly introduction. just throwing something around for you bakers to think about.

Make it stack?

Question for you guys: with the total collapse of FTX, I'm seeing a lot of Bitcoin people call for a return to fundamentals; popular sentiment now seems to be along the lines of that everyone got carried away investing money in centralized products that obviously ended up being scams and that we need to return Bitcoin to what it originally was, anonymous digital money.

If this happens, say because institutional money leaves and miners no longer have a stranglehold on the Bitcoin devs, do you think there's a chance that Bitcoin implements a lot of Monero's features, like CPU mining, variable block size, encrypted transactions, etc? And what would happen to Monero in this situation?

>>52434607
>Make it stack?

>>52434624
>If this happens, say because institutional money leaves and miners no longer have a stranglehold on the Bitcoin devs, do you think there's a chance that Bitcoin implements a lot of Monero's features, like CPU mining, variable block size, encrypted transactions, etc? And what would happen to Monero in this situation?
no.
you have to understand that bitcoin's most prominent feature is that its code base is ossified. apart from catastrophic bug fixing it's simply impossible to propose any fundamental change on bitcoin without creating schism in the community (more forks). having the blockchain being transparent is a feature, the status quo, and it's simply not going to become opaque no matter how much you or anyone else want it.
people, institutions, governments, regulators, influencers, all of these people operate under bitcoin being transparent. it won't change. it can't without causing a "civil war" of sorts like it happened with bitcoin cash, and the transparent-version will win because it will be what all exchanges will list because they're in bed with regulators and the government.
it's really that simple.

>>52434534
Sandy vagina anon back at it again, bitching about the fucking OP. How are you doing,m8?

>>52434624
>Question for you guys: with the total collapse of FTX, I'm seeing a lot of Bitcoin people call for a return
to fundamentals; popular sentiment now seems to be along the lines of that everyone got carried away investing money in centralized products that obviously ended up being scams and that we need to return Bitcoin to what it originally was, anonymous digital money.
The bitcoin fundamentalists are few and far-between. The have been outnumbered by the get-rich-quick types for a while now. This will not stop the price of bitcoin from sliding.

>If this happens, say because institutional money leaves and miners no longer have a stranglehold on the Bitcoin devs, do you think there's a chance that Bitcoin implements a lot of Monero's features, like CPU mining, variable block size, encrypted transactions, etc? And what would happen to Monero in this situation?
No. They won't even raise the block size since the BCH dispute, so now they need to justify that and will only make soft forks going forwards. Anyone who thought hard forks were a good idea has moved onto BCH, XMR, LTC, others. The remaining bitcoin users are religiously against hardforks. That's what the lightning network is all about, it's about arrogance and brain drain. Go on bitcoin forums like stacker.news and see how ignorant they are. Bitcoin is perfect apparently, and always has been. And this is just the minority of bitcoin users which understand anything about it. Also they think coinjoin works, or at least its very existence makes them feel like strong privacy-by-default is unnecessary, because privacy is just a check-box for them. So no.

>>52434624
>do you think there's a chance that Bitcoin implements a lot of Monero's features, like CPU mining, variable block size, encrypted transactions, etc?

lol no, maxipads have been reminding us for years that BTC never hardforking is a feature, not a bug. The loss of credibility would be immense.

But say they did: it would just be seen as a desperate attempt to stay relevant, Team BTC has had many years and multiple opportunities to show that they take privacy seriously e.g. ZeroCoin, Confidential TXs, Dandelion+, they passed on ALL of them.

When the tech you're relying on to keep you out of prison is being by developed by people who treat privacy as an afterthought that they'll "get to eventually" it doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Conversely, Team Monero has an obsessive commitment to privacy and it is prioritized in every consideration and trade off, even if it means getting delisted or outright outlawed.


>And what would happen to Monero in this situation?

Nothing, darknet admins ain't fools.

>>52434891
i have no idea who this person is and i'm not 'bitching' about OP, i'm just suggesting something that could be talked about because i personally find it too long and i can only imagine retards with a 20 second attention span (everyone) won't read all the content. you don't need to be a such a tight faggot.
also i'm doing fine thanks for asking.

>>52434534
I agree. the 6 long posts are unnecessary and spammy. OP should just link to https://www.monero.how/why-monero-vs-bitcoin and make a couple bullet points. Or maybe just make our own website that is actually organized, readable and useful for new users. But all the information we want to say should be in the OP. Whoever makes these threads is a sperg.
>>52434756
>having the blockchain being transparent is a feature
This is what I mean, bitcoiners have already developed these copes. There is no going back now.

Can someone debunk the “lack of transparency”/inflation bug thrown at XMR

They ought to make an onion network that uses RandomX for sybil resistance, and just make it so that every packet takes 256 hops. That's probably why all the markets are down. Like who minds waiting a couple minutes for a site to load if it prevents future assrape in jail?
And also have bittorrent-like or ipfs-like system for static pages.
And don't port firefox, like just port libcurl and have some minimal HTML viewer without JS. The bloated browser probably gets a lot of people caught, and who the fuck uses onion sites with JS.

>>52435620

>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug

>>52435701
Thanks anon

>still can't buy this coin on major exchanges
well why not buds

>>52435620
It's not debunkable, because you're asking me to prove that something doesn't exist. There could be an inflation bug in BTC for all we know. But until there is no evidence of an inflation bug so far.
Monero's cryptography is more reliable than that of Zcash and others, and the monero devs take great caution where other cryptocurrencies don't (for example https://www.ccn.com/cryptonote-currency-bug-allowed-creation-unlimited-number-coins/).). The code is audited by multiple parties (https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/2751/what-type-of-security-audits-has-monero-received).). Monero's codebase is not very bloated, there is no scripting system for example, which was responsible for a BTC inflation bug. But that doesn't make it impossible that there are bugs, just very unlikely.
The bigger picture is that an "inflation bug" means the currency is fundamentally broken because you can probably double spend. So "inflation" is really the least of our issues if it comes to light. It is a bitcoiner talking point

>>52435868
Why the fuck would I want to buy this on an exchange?

>>52435931
Why not? Scared of EAE?
In any case Kraken, Binance are fine. These "big" exchanges like Coinbase and Crypto.com are all like FTX, they spend all this money on billboards and stadiums and football ads. Any cash you leave there is gonna get Gox'd.

Reporting in,
fuck Bitcoin.

Debit card topped up by Monero

Love that every time I open a monero thread there's new thot posting I haven't seen before
Good work nerds

anyone tried borrowing xmr and sent to cold wallet?

>>52435868
>exchange
A what now?

Someone redpill me on how exchanges like FTX going bust affects crypto prices? I never interacted with an exchange before and I don’t see what’s the deal if you buy and sell with crypto

>>52437954
People get scared and dump crypto. Liquidated exchange dumps crypto trying to scurry like Jew rats. Price goes down

>>52437954

It'll be fine.

>>52437954
Nothing to see here.

>>52434276
friendly reminder to not give (You)'s to Z-trannies
just let them sperg and flail as the market casts its' vote, month after month, solidifying the only thing that matters: people trust monero more than Darpa/Israeli-backed trusted-setups.
>pic very related

>>52436402
Holy shit that is awesome

>>52436402
Requires KYC, doesn’t that defeat the purpose?

POOMPA
*BANG BANG*
POOMPA
*BANG BANG*
POOMPA
*BANG BANG*

>>52440493
Why would it require kyc? It would basically be like a prepaid giftcard.

Monero GUI is shit, should I try Feather or is it even more shit?

>>52441093
He said debit card. Debit card requires payment processing so I figured it’s a Visa/MasterCard that requires kyc when it first gets issued, no? Otherwise how would the payment processor work?

>>52443032
The gui is perfectly fine. You are probably just retarded.
Feather is easier for retards.

>>52443209
It's not fine. I've tried a dozen nodes and it gets stuck while synching. I've just tried feather and it seems more responsive. I'm waiting for my full node to sync so I don't have to deal with this crap but in the mean time I need a light wallet that actually works. CakeWallet is absolute garbage too.

>>52443333
Damnit. I wasted quad shitting on Monero.

>>52443032
>>52443333
Never had this problem. Not even while using it over anonymity networks. Seems like you are probably fucking up somewhere or connecting to a shitty node.

>>52434302
All Is Fair In Wirey's Hair

>>52440496
Cute AI drawing, eyes look a tad bit wonky though.

>>52443032
works fine with mine.

Bump for Seraphis Jamtis.

Justin Berman - Seraphis/Jamtis: Feature overview of the proposed upgrade to Monero & Closing

https://piped.video/watch?v=EhqHyaqC8-c

>>52443163
You’ve never bought a prepaid giftcard before have you?
https://coincards.com/ca/product/prepaid-visa-non-reloadable-standard-gift-card-physical-delivery/

Insider here. The Monero Foundation was badly tied up with FTX and have just lost years of runway. There's 6 months left of funding until operations have to shutdown at current prices.

>>52444102
>2 more weeks

>>52436362
based pixiv anon

>>52434276
hot

>>52434607
Has it ever changed?

>>52444102
Literally not my problem. I hope it's true though.

>/xmr/ tell me to keep my coins off the fucking exchanges
>follow advice from anons
>ftx collapses
>not my problem, don't lose a single sat
Thank you frens

>>52447011
Checked.
Glad you got your neros, anon.

>>52434534
>I think it's time to start thinking about a simpler summary for the /xmr general/, maybe the same 6 long posts every single thread are not necessary.
i actually want to share my story with recently taking the orange pill (earlier this year)
i have benefitted in several ways by the standard 5-6 regular posts at the beginning of the XMR general threads, and in fact when i see other anons asking questions directly about XMR or indirectly i find it quite useful to link to the XMR general thread which usually involves a reply to one of the standard first 6 posts in these threads. Also to this day, I still find something useful in these 6 posts and often refer to them myself to recall certain info. Just a couple days ago an anon made a thread asking if there was a place he could gamble or play poker using XMR. Guess what thread/post he was directed to

>>52435044
A website could work, or alternatively some pastebins/pastebin alternatives that can be embedded via 4chan X.

>>52434435
monero can be exchanged for goods and services anonymously.

>>52447151

Long time lurker here. Just wanted to concur, the OP info posts were very helpful when I first started looking into Monero. Easy and rapid access to key information is never a bad thing, especially with all the FUD these days.

>>52444091
I have. Do you not have trouble spending from those? I bought one to pay for a VPN and it wouldn’t even accept my prepaid giftcard. So is that what it is, a prepaid giftcard?

>>52447151
>>52447470

Pretty much. We're in the midst of a ruthless information war and certain geniuses actually think we should make the compelling info *less* visible to curious n00bs discovering Monero for the first time.

PRO-TIP: you can filter out the offending posts by image MD5 hash. Problem solved.

>>52434534
Excuse my romulan, but if they're not willing to read they can fuck off.
Keep it info heavy people need answers.
Use will remain parabolic fashion as masses continue to become familiarized with these new financial systems.

>>52434534
the walls of text are a tool to weed out people who won't read.

>>52449402
>the walls of text are a tool to weed out people who won't read.

i.e. moonfags who are barely literate enough to enquire "wen lambo?"

>>52449555
Wen lambo tho

>>52449911

Next Thursday.

>>52449555
>>52449402
>>52448024

this

Is there any pitfalls one should know when using Bisq? Wanted to onramp cash and went through their FAQ so I get it generally. Would use localmonerro but nobody is in my area. Plus being able to boot it up regularly to drop parts of my paycheck in on the regular would be nice.

can someone please drop the "invest in XMR to invest in the black market" meme please fren

>>52450821

>>52450851
my man

>>52447734
>Do you not have trouble spending from those?
Nope I don’t see why they wouldn’t accept it
>So is that what it is, a prepaid giftcard?
No idea, going from cryptocurrency back to fiat seems backwards to me but I get it when people want to pay for goods and services that are not accepting cryptocurrency yet

>>52447151
>>52448489
>>52449402
Fair enough

>>52450529
That was a hands ball and the ref should've whistled

>>52434302

>>52449402
We should extend the general post sometime soon. I already saw 5 of them get added, why not a 6th, maybe further elaborating on the major design flaws of Bitcoin, similar to the CryptoNote whitepaper's beginning. Privacy/ASICs/irregular emission curve/hard-coded constants/difficulty to upgrade the coin/static block sizing/bulky transaction scripting. Stuff like that.

As a crypto cynic, the only coin I hold is Monero since it has significant real value over fiat. Bought in December 2021 (RIP) so ready to sell in 5 years.

That is all.

>>52452470
>We should extend the general post sometime soon. I already saw 5 of them get added, why not a 6th, maybe further elaborating on the major design flaws of Bitcoin, similar to the CryptoNote whitepaper's beginning. Privacy/ASICs/irregular emission curve/hard-coded constants/difficulty to upgrade the coin/static block sizing/bulky transaction scripting. Stuff like that.

The more technical stuff is better suited for the Info-Dump, that's why it was created in the first place.

>>52452554
perfectly normal, most people here are "crypto" cynics ever since "crypto" turned into what it is today.

lol

>>52453521

>>52453521
Is there a bigger scam than the AML?
So much money was spent, so many laws yet people still have no problem dodging it.
It seems to me about as effective as war on drugs, where drug dealers are laughing and making millions, but regular person can't even enjoy a weed in peace.

>>52453587
i can tell you exactly how this will go.

ill upload a 2 minute tutorial video voiced by some anime girl from fiverr showing you how to go from fiat to xmr in the same amount of time.
this leaked thing that probably won't pass anyways doesn't even attempt to ban p2p transactions and that's why it has basically zero effect (besides maybe killing off paper xmr but ZC doesnt give a damn about EU law anyways).

>>52453521
>what is the streissand effect

>>52453699
will it be the same anime girl who voiced the trocador tutorial?

the only viable holds right now

>>52457165
most likely. she did such a good job

>>52434435
>paying taxes
inflation is a tax on savers, so yeah.

With the recent pixiv happening, do you think XMR will ever gain traction with artists? This might be another niche that it is suited for.

>>52458587
>pixiv happening
QRD?

>>52453521
i love that the eu is such a beacon of democracy that they constantly have to leak law proposals to let ppl know whats goimg on.

>>52458682
Something similar to pic related may or may not be happening to pixiv.
Details are unclear atm and japanese are asking for more clarifications on what is really allowed or not.
It's a trending topic on pretty much all social media in Japan right now.
Many are hoping for pixiv to imitate DMM and tell both Visa and Mastercard to fuck off.

>>52458587
Dunno, faith in crypto lessened a lot all around teh world because of the various recent crypto drama and that include Japan.

>>52459246
Don't forget that Pixiv recently adopted a "Diversity, Equity and Inclusion" policy.

>>52459487
Inb4 mass exodus of nip artists to Pixelfed instances

>>52459487
>"Diversity, Equity and Inclusion" policy.
Every. Fucking. Time.

>tfw personally commission the person who designed and made the first wownero chan image all the time

It feels so good bros

>>52459579
I prefer putting Inclusion before Equity so the acronym spells out DIE.

>>52459743
y-y-you should donate some of your exclusives to the art fund.

Why is there a seething sticky about us?

>>52460006
I'll keep your monero boy funded but i myself am commissioning other things, the payments are made in monero if it means anything

>>52460095
oops wrong one

>>52460095
>>52460110
no that's pretty based. That artist was great. Happy to hear he is getting Monero to make more art!

>>52460620
last one for now but he's too good

>>52443333
Like we're gonna trust your Illuminati quads about Monero.

>>52434276
very hot

sex with monerochan

Bizzump

>>52453521
bullish

>>52463442
Imagine seeing this and thinking public ledgers aren't cucked. If your coin doesn't threaten the government status quo then your coin isn't good enough.

Public ledgers not needed.

>>52447011
good. fuck all exchanges.

>>52461690
I WILL have sex with monerochan!

>>52434276
Did the recent hardfork of Moenro create a new Monero coin? Can I still use a Trezor Model T hardware wallet for the new Monero hardfork?

>>52464760
Monero*

>>52464760
>Did the recent hardfork of Moenro create a new Monero coin?
No it didn't.
>Can I still use a Trezor Model T hardware wallet for the new Monero hardfork?
Yes, I read on the /r/Monero subreddit that Trezor has updated its software.

>>52464856
Okay, thank you so much!

>>52464760
No. Hard forks in Monero are almost never contentious. You may need to update your software to use your Trezor. I don't use hardware wallets so I don't know.

>>52436013
>Kraken
Based.
including metamask
and sylo smart wallet
>You own your data, assets and you hold the keys.

>>52447011
Good, Monero ftw.

>>52434276
It's happening. The EU wants to ban us from exchanges.

https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/eu-proposal-calls-for-privacy-coin-ban

>>52445385
cute boy.

Also, is it a good idea to use tails (live) usb stick with a little persistence storage to install my monero gui and carry my wallet?

I remember when about last year there was talk of $50k, but it's so low these days :/

>>52466001
can't wait for this to happen, i was hoping to buy some monero today but this is great maybe in the near future monero will drop a bit more because of this.
ofc it will recover in the short-mid term and we will be finally free from those speculators.

>>52466102
>is it a good idea to use tails (live) usb stick with a little persistence storage to install my monero gui and carry my wallet?
Yes. The peristent USB disk partition will be encrypted in TailsOS anyways. Pick a good/strong passphrase for it, and you will be OK.

However, I would receommend using Feather Wallet instead of the GUI one. Feather is a lot easier to use with TailsOS imo. CHeck this guide:
https://xmrguide.org/tails/feather/install

The same guide also contains using Monero GUI with TailsOS, too. Check that too and decide for yourself.

>>52466185
it's already priced in, this is old news, just check on fagoogle

Where will you be when Monero gets replaced?
>Y-y-you stupid poo
Cry about it, Monerboomer!

>>52466285
>it's already priced in
Nothing has or ever will be priced in from the beginning of time until the heat death of the universe.

>>52466293
Discreet has private and public wallets just like zcash.
kys

>>52443722
its the imperfections that makes her special

>>52447011
Same here. No Keys No Coins

>>52447011
See what happens when you listen to the advice of people who actually give a shit?

>>52434276

I just bought my first [UNKOWN QUANTITY] monero/s.

>>52468843

Withdrawn to my Monero GUI wallet, will probably lose it soon tho, have to go on a boat trip in the weekend.

>>52466293
>Where will you be when Monero gets replaced?

>>52469086
It is gradually being replaced; Zcash and Railgun have an on/off privacy switch, which will more than likely allow both to survive the looming regulation.

>>52468861
>boat trip

>>52469963
>Railgun
go back to working tech support, pajeet

>>52466209
thanks sir, ill proceed with the plan

Dropped by to say that Monero fags in this board are the most based, thundercocked Chads and the only ones that are going to make it. You have to be a literal retard to not see it.

Increasing regulations due to FTC collapse and CBDC bullshit will smother the more mainstream cryptocurrencies. Also with the collapse more people are cold storing their cryptos which will eventually lead to low supply.

>Pedos are still gonna buy kiddie porn from the FBI
>Drug and arms dealers will still be trying to silkroad 2.0

Monero is the crypto to go for that. With the regulations and the supply being slowly locked due to all that’s happening, we won’t even need a bullrun for this to take off. It’s going to happen.

>>52469963
imagine being worried about regulations.
kek the absolute state of shitcoins, enjoy your non-adoption

>>52469963
>It is gradually being replaced; Zcash and Railgun have an on/off privacy switch, which will more than likely allow both to survive the looming regulation.

how on-brand.

>>52470059

Based and commonsensepilled.

>>52470059
Ty fren.

>>52469963
When the devs are forced to turn off shielded transactions, or worse, reveal that they have some backdoor key funded by some big government, will you actually orgasm then?

today is the day we break 0.08 BTC.

>>52473068
inshallah

Also anyone have any advice on DEXes for a newfag? I am trying out BISQ but idk if im just poor or what but the asks are extremely high in quantity and I feel like I need to have a large sum to exchange.

What's the downside of using changeNOW? Like, am I retarded or something? Please tell me what's the con of just using that to exchange.

>>52473245
ChangeNOW seems fine.
I usually use sideshift.ai which is similar.

>>52473068
I hope not. I haven't accoomulated enough yet. I hope we go back to 0.004.

>>52473331
The moment XMR becomes banned in western countries and/or yurop is when you'll witness a major catalyst to a downfall that could go down to $45.

However I think XMR is genuinely one of those coins that you don't actually care too deeply about the price. Because it has real utility and the anonymity you get is... it's worth any price loss to be honest, as long as it doesn't reach 2016 levels of fatal, it should perform well in the long-term.

People have this misconstrued idea that regulation can stop a blockchain, those same people have no idea what tor or i2p is and that it's pretty easy for anybody with at least an SAT score of 400 or IQ score of 65 to have a functioning tor node.

anyone know why my hash rate will drop to almost nothing sometimes, like 38 H/s? im mining on the mini chain in the official gui wallet with half threads on a ryzen 3600. when it runs normally i get about 4000H/s. afaik i have all sleep settings etc disabled. when im using my pc it never drops like that, only when i leave it idle.

Bulletproofs++ research paper is going to be peer-review'ed. If it is mathematically sound, it has the potential to reduce the transaction size ~27% !

Current 1-in 2-out transaction in monero is around 1.5 kB in size. So, this would bring the size down to around 1 kB.

That would be great.
https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/358

>>52473419
>The moment XMR becomes banned in western countries and/or yurop

Banning XMR is an admission it works too damn well at hiding your money from authorities in general and the tax man in particular.

>>52473520
amen, this is only good for XMR. blessed positive take.

I think the only challenge from there is finding exchanges, but DEXes will be our last bastion.

>>52473490
That's pretty cool but I'm too dumb for this kind of math.
This works with seraphis too right?
If I recall 128 members seraphis tx were about 1.5-2kB right?

>>52473245
I've never used bisq but I think you need some extra bitcoin as collateral or something before you can start exchanging. But DEXes are better for privacy. Using a swap service like ChangeNow works fine too, but just know that it's clearnet and they log all transactions with your IP and your browser metadata. This is important because if you bought your bitcoin from Coinbase after doing KYC verification, and you swapped it at an instant exchange, that's considered a taxable event under US laws and could fuck you over down the road when the IRS wants that tax money. Not reporting that trade, coupled with the fact that it was exchanged for monero of all coins, is enough for them to charge you with tax fraud and/or money laundering.

This hasn't really happened to people yet but you know it will.

2+mil spike in volume on tradeogre right now. .008 has been breached.

>>52473420
Dunno, check yout thermals or get some kind of log that record cpu usage by proccess

>>52473490
Amazing!

>>52473735
alright, but what if you use whonix? IP problem solved.

i have all my XMR on a Monerujo wallet, are they gonna fuck me

>>52473912
do you have the seed phrase? is so ur prob fine. if not, ur a moron.

>>52473928
yeah of course i have the seed phrase

>>52473936
then stay comfy king.

>>52473913
Why not just buy from localmonero?
I feel like you are over complicating things

>>52473970
likewise, king

>>52473554
Atomic swaps will be the ultimate last resort. Nothing they can do about that. We can meet anywhere online and share our tor addresses and swap risk free.

>>52473987
I don't want my kidneys to get stolen.

You're probably right though, cash --> localmonero --> monero is optimal

>>52473736
So you are telling me lambo in two weeks?
I know people that bought at 0.009 so it would be cool if it passed it this bear and keep up when bulls are back in town.

>>52474021
Ah I did not think about that, will uniswap ever support XMR?

>>52473736
Waiting for 0.01 BTC. Monero is such a comfy hold.

>>52474036
idgaf about lambo.
just saying big pockets are reading the writing on the wall, been doing so all year, and they have been accumulating. even buying at a yearly top. future looks pretty promiosing to me.

>>52474036
shit it might even be forming a cup and handle on the btc ratio..

>>52474028
Why not just bank transfer?
Do you live in a very authoritarian country?
Buying monero is not a problem anywhere

>>52474126
less paper trail, more comfy.

>>52474126
It's mostly for tax purposes my friend. Bank transfer is the easiest but convenience is a sacrifice for security. Just buying XMR with anything is no guarantee to be safe, you have to assume you're being tracked by every move, it's silly to give the benefit of the doubt and leave tracks for anyone to find and ponder about.

>>52474153
Also, mostly tax but uh... just fill in the rest :).

>>52474179
that alright, well if you are too worried about your kidneys you can use cash by mail in a high reputation seller.

>>52473735
So if getting XMR will ever be really considered money laundering world-wide, there seems to be no way to get it 100% safely, isn't there?
Someone will always know you bought it

>>52474398
Actually localmonero cash transaction seems safe privacy-wise, if you do it right of course

>>52474398
face-diaper, glasses and hat are the ultimate form of anonymity when buying monero with cash from a stranger.

I can't mine monero with a i5. My search showed me I need a amd threadripper.

Now I just want to ask: can I mine wownero with a i5? Or do it also need a threadripper?

>>52474519
XMR mining is not profitable. If you're doing it for the sake of donating to the network you're doing just fine. You're better off hacking into some server and using their resources to mine, in a video game obviously.

>>52474519
you can mine monero with a potato, now the processor you want to use depends on the profit you want to make. Check how much hash rate you need to get the amount of monero you want to mine.

>>52474567
Yes, but what about WOW? It looks cheaper. Would it be possible to make a profit on it?

>>52474567
Within an autistic children's block game.

>>52474641
ah im braindead and slept 5 hours, I have no clue on WOW; sorry to waste your time fren

>>52474641
it needs improvment. worth to have a bit of a bag just incase it pulls a doge. but dont dump massive funds into it. its a meme coin. mine it if u want.

>>52474398
>So if getting XMR will ever be really considered money laundering world-wide, there seems to be no way to get it 100% safely, isn't there?
>Someone will always know you bought it

Yeah, just like buying weed from a dealer. There's safety in numbers but no 100% guarantees, like anything in life other than death and taxes.

>>52474579
You'll get more cash by selling the potato than mining with it.
Then you can get more pototatos...
Then you can mine with them

Lets not forget this is /biz/

>>52474654
log4j

>>52440323
Thats a nice chart. due for correction though?

On the edge of breaking .008

>>52434276

Anons your participation needed, post advices and monerochans

Global Hyperinflation General /GHG/ >>>/pol/404763139

How to get monero easy:

https://trocador.app/

Select providers with A, that is, the ones with no KYC.
I have been using it to wash my bitcoin, to avoid future taxes (my country is transitioning to communism). I run a pruned node for monero.
So far, I have a good experience with it, with less fees than in most CEX's and no KYC, which is a huge advantage.

Anybody here also looking into discreet? Seems like a completely legitimate project, with a good development history, solid devs, and could be a nice chance to make it with privacy. Thinking that having a good amount of both will become important in the coming years.

Sold everything.
You are welcome.

>>52475576
ambadakum

>>52476336
>launch token via BSC ICO months before even having a testnet
nono, seems perfectly legit

Monerochads knew it all along.
SBF finally telling the truth:

>>52476558
Yeah it does seem legit

>>52476336
It's the most blatant pump and dump I've ever seen.

>>52476336
There has never been a project that launched on BSC that wasn't a blatant scam

>>52476681
>>52476836
I see so this is why XMR is poor

>>52474693
would mining on a potato spoil the potato?
or better yet, could you mine on potatoes and then after you've gotten all usefulness out of them, plant them for MORE potatoes?
You may have stumbled onto something big here, anon.

>>52476336
>>52476654
>>52476954
Discreet shill is not discreet

>>52476336
Discreet has the same problem Z-cash does, in that it's not private by default. Worse, it's selling presale tokens with the plan to later premine their blockchain and redeem the BSC for the premine.

Obviously, stay far the fuck away from something that has tokens you CANNOT SELL YET. That's just common sense. If it turns out to not be a total waste, you can grab a small bag later, once the market can actually price the tokens correctly.

Also offtopic for XMR general, unbelievably they have their own thread already, despite not having a blockchain yet lol.

Dumping my best SD monerochans

>>52478049
Sucks that I can't get it to work will on AMD even going down the voldy rabbithole.

>>52477678
>Also offtopic for XMR general, unbelievably they have their own thread already, despite not having a blockchain yet lol.

that is generally how you shill ICO tokens. how else will the devs scam the idiots of this board if they don't make fake threads over proxies?

>>52440496
fixed the eyes and earrings

>>52478312
wow!

>>52478312
>>52478252
>>52478415
>>52478235
>>52478158
>>52478100
>>52478066
>>52478049
jesus who made these, amazing talent!

>>52480209
Computer made it

>>52478235
I never knew how much I needed Monero in a sundress

P2P pool mining should be mandatory for Monero. Either that or solo mining.
It's the only thing that makes any sense for a P2P currency.
The Monero "community" shouldn't have to worry about corrupt mining pools and 51% attacks all the time, and having mandatory P2P/Solo Mining would make them literally impossible. Miners shouldn't have the freedom to harm the network.

Why hasn't the P2Pool project been fully integrated into the Monero project?

So... why does the US government allow Monero to trade on Kraken/Bitrue again?

>>52480647
Because Monero is compliant and they don't have a stake in Zcash like all the other cucked exchanges.

>>52480630
p2pool is a series of side chains merge mining with Monero

>chain reaction of ponzi platforms collapsing and killing one another

FUCK it is comfy in here.

>>52481178
Where is your picrel from? Looks comfy.
Reminds me of some good times playing Comedy Night.

>>52481192
Looks like some custom vault lounge build from fallout 4 or 76

>>52481178
Everyone losing money to these exchanges deserve it. Fuck the moonfags who have no interest in crypto outside of "muh investments". They're just losing shitcoins anyways.

>>52474036

>>52480647

Monero isn't illegal.

>What do you think about Monero?

Realistically, do you foresee this scenario ever happening?

>IRS figures out peoples' wallet addresses to non-private crypto like Bitcoin, Ethereum, etc
>If they send or receive any amount, this is subject to scrutiny AND becomes a taxable event

>>52482738
>IRS figures out peoples' wallet addresses to non-private crypto like Bitcoin, Ethereum, etc

Implying this isn't already the case.

>>52482738
>Realistically, do you foresee this scenario ever happening?
Every feature Monero has incorporated into its protocol (from Stealth Addresses to RingCT) has been done so in order to guard its users against that scenario.

So, I don't foresee that scenario ever happening.

>>52482761
baseless fud.

>>52482761
>>52482795
oops, sorry fren, I misread your comment.

Yes, IRS is probably already at it with the help of chainanalysis in tracking the non-private crypto users' finances.

>>52472472
The devs do not have to turn off the shielded transactions retard, the option is already there for audit and regulatory compliance purposes, jeet. Besides, only criminals will want to have absolute privacy without any such provision.

>>52482876
So what's the purpose of shielded transactions if only criminals use it? Why not turn it off now? A fully transparent chain is better for auditability.

>>52482876
>only criminals will want to have absolute privacy without any such provision.
Yeah, you wouldn't want to stop us from watching every financial transaction you make, right Anon?

>>52483078
Read in between the lines, you can shield your transactions but with the option to switch to a transparent mode when the need arises: auditability or litigations. Regualtions will surely frown at protocols that do not have this view key options

>>52483218
A transparent chain is still better for regulators as there are no uncontrolled, unwanted "side-effects". Stuff like Discreet and Zcash are in the burning pit between transparent chains beloved by investors, and fully private chains like Monero that have high inherent value, and organic price action and userbase.
These coins have neither and are just plain scams and/or pump & dumps. No reason to invest or use it.

>>52483117
I am big on privacy, I am only of the opinion that it is more legitimate for privacy platforms to make provisions for view key options. Does that stick in your skull?

>>52483266
>>52483218
>auditability or litigations.
Monero has this without weakening the protocol's privacy by publicly displaying the transactions.

>>52483261
Regulators won't keep permanent tabs on your transactions, they do so only when there is a flag on your wallet and if they can have access to your transactions with the view key options, I see no breach with that. Would you rather have your transactions open to public view by some unathourized persons?

On the contrary, privacy protocols will enhance blockchain adoption because some normies have not adopted crypto because of privacy concerns as it is an essential trait of an average human except for a few chuds like you

>52483336
>Regulators won't keep permanent tabs on your transactions, they do so only when there is a flag on your wallet and if they can have access to your transactions with the view key options, I see no breach with that. Would you rather have your transactions open to public view by some unathourized persons?
I consider "Regulators" to be unauthorized persons.
Also, Monero already has view keys.

>On the contrary, privacy protocols will enhance blockchain adoption
More things using blockchain technology would be inefficient.
Blockchain's only real use-case is as a Decentralized Peer-to-Peer Payment system, anything else is unnecessary, and can already be done better with programs that don't use blockchains.

>because some normies have not adopted crypto because of privacy concerns as it is an essential trait of an average human except for a few chuds like you
Normies haven't adopted Cryptocurrency because normies are too confused in this space as they don't know what Crypto is supposed to be, they see shit like Doge coin, Etherium, NFTs, and Web3 as confusing, and rightfully so.
They don't care about any of this shit, they just know that Crypto = Bitcoin, and that Bitcoin = scary internet hacker money, and everything about Crypto in the media reinforces this line of thinking.
If a normie actually cared about privacy, they wouldn't be a normie.

So the next time you want to come into our thread and claim that you care about "privacy platforms", then why don't you get off your tranny discord, and run a fucking node.
What kind of node? idk, but clearly you are very big on privacy, so you'll figure it out.

>>52483336
>On the contrary, privacy protocols will enhance blockchain adoption because some normies have not adopted crypto because of privacy concerns as it is an essential trait of an average human except for a few chuds like you
This is one of the most retarded pseudo smart thing I've ever read.
Please fuck off

>>52434276

Anons your participation needed, post advices and monerochans

Global Hyperinflation General /GHG/ >>>/pol/404838321

I don't have enough brainlet wojacks to quote all the retarded posts itt, holy shit.

How many here know kim dotcoom?

>>52484448
he is influential.
we would get a boost in the public attention if we pull him to our side.

>>52484448
He is a known scammer and manipulator. I wouldn't want his name associated with Monero.

>>52485107
>scammer
source?

>>52485139
The entire megaupload debacle about ~15 years ago.

I STILL haven't gotten a refund on my lifetime subscription that I paid a lot of money for even though it was stated in the contract I would be compensated. Kim ran with the money, founded MEGA.nz which he then promptly sold to Chinese investors so that he wouldn't be liable for the fallout.

Fuck that scamming piece of shit.

>>52484448
who doesn't?

>>52445385
wmnbaw

>>52485352
Oof. Sorry about your loss anon.
Torrenting (especially on I2P) is nowadays my go-to method of downloading files.

>>52485107
stfu retard

>>52484448

jberman has submitted a ccs request for helping the seraphis jamtis network upgrade work:

https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/359

This upgrade is an important one as it will improve monero network's capabilities, and it will include major changes to the network.
Thus, the more eyes are on it, the more coders are working on it, the better.

based crab coin

>>52487678

>>52434958
Bitcoin was taken over by blockstream jews. They saw where btc was going and that it would be a threat to their system so they used blockstream to take it over and control it. That's why they didn't raise the block size. they didn't want bitcoin to scale so they could collect more fees from the network. then they created LN which is too complicated to use and that was just a distraction anyway. Bitcoin Cash is unironically the true bitcoin but no one cares so whatever. Monero is better in every way so.

How can I buy without a KYC? Don't want to have any evidence I'm stacking this coin. Or am I being too schizo and it doesn't really matter?

What's the sentiment regarding that here?

>t. tourist

>>52490453
>How can I buy without a KYC?
Good.
>am I being too schizo and it doesn't really matter?
No you are not being schizo and your concerns are definitely sound ones.

For buying without KYC, you have several options:
- localmonero.co
- bisq.network
- coinatmradar.com (check for monero atm's)

Or, you can buy btc, ltc, and swap those into XMR without KYC:

- orangefren.com
- trocador.app
- monero.com

And many more.
Welcome fren. Keep it no-KYC. Keep your keys on your own monero wallet.

>>52490453
For convenience, I think a lot of people are already signed up on major exchanges like Binance. So we just used Binance to buy XMR. No reports on glowniggers or any bullshit yet.
If you're willing to go zero trust and zero kyc, check OP >>52434276
And use the non kyc

>>52490555
>So we just used Binance to buy XMR.
Binance sells paper-XMR. Did you transfer your XMR's from Binance to your own wallet?

>>52490581
Yep of course. That's always the way to go. Fiat -> Binance XMR -> own wallet. No keys no coins bro. Honestly, I wanna delete my Binance account soon if that is even possible. Do you know a non-kyc service that does Fiat -> XMR directly? Localmonero sellers from my country wants me to use bank transfers. I think that's fine but I was wondering if there are better ways than this for privacymaxing

>>52490730
>Do you know a non-kyc service that does Fiat -> XMR directly? Localmonero sellers from my country wants me to use bank transfers. I think that's fine but I was wondering if there are better ways than this for privacymaxing
Apart from localmonero, I don't know.
There, I found a dealer that takes cash directly. And I have been buying from him, without any KYC.

>>52490785
Dang. If I had the time for it, I'll sell XMR on Localmonero directly using cash with KYC too. Even with just a 2% fee it's probably viable enough

>>52490546
>>52490555
thanks for the warm welcome frens. I have Kucoin right now, my only problem is that the exchange I'm KYC on my country is the on ramp and send my coins from there to Kucoin. I can easily be tracked that I bought monero in my Kucoin account right? Even if I transfer them to my wallet instantly.

Or am I missing something?

>>52485503
>Torrenting (especially on I2P) is nowadays my go-to method of downloading files.
What? Someone indexed I2P?

>>52475299
considering grayscale/DCG's recent announcement and involvement in zcash but not monero? i doubt it.
furthermore, zcash is going to switch to PoS in the future -- no sane investor will invest in a dead PoS optional privacy token. I anticipate 10:1 XMR:ZEC by 2026, conservatively.

>>52482876
You illiterate fuckwit.
The devs of Zcash and other CENTRALIZED CORPOCOINS will be FORCED by GOVERNMENT POWER to disable the ability to send shielded transactions. And they WILL comply, because they aren't fully open decentralized things.

Also did you have to sign a form to call someone a racial slur, or does "jeet" not count yet? Also are you calling Monero people pajeets? That's the stupidest thing I've read in a general thread on biz ever, and that's quite a prize really.

>>52443032
maybe you should try keeping all your money on reputable exchanges, like FTX and Voyager

>>52487795
Who is this semen demon

>>52482876
In a world that outlaws privacy, only outlaws will have privacy.

>>52490853
Yes, the only facts that glowniggers will know is that you bought a specified amount of XMR from Kucoin to your wallet. They don't know the current amount of said wallet nor any other transaction performed.

>>52490991

Is this what passes as FUD these days? My sides

>>52434276
About the only fuckin crypto I trust right now.

>>52490453

Consider buying Zcash instead, its more private than Monero and has better tokenomics.

>>52490973

PoS is pretty much the only thing investors will be allowed to touch 5 years from now, dipshit, the environmental patients will see to that.

Enjoy getting legislated out of existance.

>>52490546
one of my local bitcoin atm requires a bank account to use and the other have to comply and agree to its AML policy + number OTP verification.

Are both of these good options?

>>52491241

They won't outlaw privacy, they'll just outlaw blatently crime-enabling tech like you know what.

>>52492014
>>52492154
Fuck off. Your proof of stake shit will soon collapse as there are no buyers and the centralized corporation has to continually sell coins to keep the lights on. As DCG will soon be belly up they can no longer funnel funds into this.

Aside from this make your own marketing thread and stop being a parasite here.

>>52492391

Buyers will come once ZKP becomes the hottest buzzword in tech.

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>>52490925
Anon, can you define "index" please? Also, i2p has a few torrenting sites in it, which is what I think the anon is referring to

>>52434276
BAMP

Hi guys, brand new to crypto.
With the FTX implosion, I figured now would be a good time to buy in.
Is monero a good coin to invest into or is it more for transactions?

>>52457274
based folio
>XMR:anonymity
>BIT: decentralization
>ETH: dApps

>>52496462
I'm a value investor with a lot in Monero, but I'm also a religious zealot and can stomach realized and unrealized losses without much difficulty. It's a long term play with massive potential upside but also serious risks.