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get off it before its too late. amphetamine users have about a 2 year lifespan before their brain is fucked
green tea and garlic is all you need fren

>>52422209
Tou take it for medication.

Others take it to get an edge.

There is a difference. You are likely disabled without it.

>>52422444
how does garlic work? is there a risk with long term use (garlic is an anticoagulant)?

>>52422209
>amphetamine
>and it has improved my life drastically
You sure it doesn't just make you think your life has improved?
Weed makes you think your creative, while not actually making you creative.

>>52422521
crush it raw and swallow with water, 1 clove a day
just dont take blood thinners while garlicmaxxing and youre fine

10 mg is fine
Ignore the retards telling you to eat garlic

>>52422816
post nose

>>52422209
10mg is unironically fine and you shouldn't have any worries, it's the retards that get hooked on using ADHD meds to get high that are railing 120mg IR's through a straw that will die early and terribly. Once you start getting up around 50mg doses or so that's when I'd be worried for long-term health.

>>52422209
Is That Sam Bankman-Fried?

That nigga has been on my mind. No cap, I been thinking about that time when I barebacked him raw in a Boca Raton Air BnB. That shit had to be the tightest, kosher, wettest boy pussy I've ever laid pipe into. I swear to God, the most heavenly high is gargling that wonderboy's nuts while going fist deep into his shitter. I had Sam Bankman-Fried screaming in the sheets with head too ridiculous to ignore. That lil jew frotted my cock until he busted on my mouth, I had to return the favor. That jew, SBF and I been fucking non-stop ever since, but keep that shit on the DL. He does that shit for free. If you're gonna ask me how to "long" SBF, I'll be deadass. All you gotta do is ask, be straight up, and get physical real quick. Touch his nuts, get on ya knees, talk your shit. He doesn't play around with no pansy-ass niggas either. He likes his men manly, and his dick thick. Dark skin, 6'5 is the minimum and I ain't talking about height boy.

That jewish boy Sam Bankman-Fried stole my heart and drank my seed.

>>52422209
good. amphetamines just suppress part of you so you can focus on things your entire self doesn't want to. however, without finding harmony (which is VERY hard) between all parts of your mind the shit will ALWAYS hit the fan eventually. there's never a positive outcome from amphetamines, if you look long ahead down the road, you will pay much more than you've gained.

>>52422816
yeah whoever thinks that ADHD can be overcome by willpower or muh natural supplements or training schedule or other BS clearly has no idea what it's like to not have it. willpower cannot be willed. however you should still man up, accept that your brain is much more complex to please than normie brains and that you'll face a lot more suffering in life. then go ahead and deal with your messed up desires and find a way to please it and BREAK THE NORMIE RULES rather than take amphs to become one.

I have adhd, but my psychologist said I have to build a good routine first before giving me the medicine. What do?

>>52423189
ADHD isn't that complex to understand anon, some people have brains that are fucked and either don't make enough dopamine to focus or don't process the dopamine that is there well enough to focus - that's why they take amphetamines, because they give you more dopamine, so you can actually focus. Where it gets fucked up and sketchy is when degen college kids/working class people that don't actually have ADHD start relying on amphetamines to get shit done or get high - they get caught in a fucked up negative feedback loop where without the drugs they basically have ADHD until either their nerotransmitters re-regulate or in extreme cases regrow (to an extent) or their body starts making enough dopamine on its own again.

If someone has a professional diagnosis of ADHD and they personally feel like the meds help them and are trying to use the lowest dose possible, amphetamines are literally fine. If they're a cracked out fraudster cumweasel cracking IR's open to snort the contents through cumstained hundred dollar bills just to have the energy to stare at a screen and try to find another way to fuck retards out of money it has officially become a problem.

>>52423347
They're trying to figure out how bad it is so they can scale the dosage appropriately is most likely. Small chance you have a dick for a doctor that doesn't think you actually need the meds and wants you to prove you do because they see a million and one people that fake ADHD for addy's and are probably tired of it.

>>52422816
Vyvanse is the good shit

>>52422209
Amphetamines fucked my heart.
Going for an ecg because of it tomorrow and getting a full check up
I was on the stuff for ADD for a long time gave it a break and got back on it.
Take nutritional yeast 2tsp or just take a b vitamins stack, chia seeds 4tsp or fishoil, garlic, eat low carb and exercise daily and just look up
Metacognitive therapy worksheets for ADHD and procrastination.
Drink raw cacao or tea instead of coffee, cut down on the caffeine.

>>52422444
Image the smell
How does it work?

>>52423370
nah anon it's not fine. and people with ADHD don't produce enoguh dopamine to do everyday wagie work there are plenty of things one can do today that aren't mundane it's just harder to figure out how to set up your life if you don't fit into the normie schedule
>ADHD isn't that complex to understand anon, some people have brains that are fucked and either don't make enough dopamine to focus or don't process the dopamine that is there well enough to focus
and that's literally just cope. finding out how to lead your life without drugs is an extremely hard task and you tell ursedlf this BS (or let yourself get deceived by it) to not face it.

>>52422570
but why, what does it do?

>>52423664
And that's fine and good and dandy, but for regular people that have to earn a living to pay rent and go to work they don't have that choice. Amphetamines are cardiotoxic and neurotoxic and can fuck you up over time or if your dosage is too high, but getting evicted and divorced and never getting to see your kids again driving you to put a bullet through your brainpan will kill you a lot faster. I'm glad you can manage without the drugs, shitloads cannot.

>>52423370
I got diagnosed with adhd myself but I'm starting to think that it's a bs diagnosis. no way 10% of the population have a disorder like that. There must have been an evolutionary advantage for that type of brain patterns to appear so one should rather learn to use the strengths that come with it and ameliorate the "weaknesses" that only appear in that clusterfuck we call society anyway

>>52423484
>>52423712
it makes you a man that doesnt rely on girl drugs like adderall just to feel something
>>52423722
mega cope, you sound like any other drug addict
WAAAAHHH I NEED TO BE HAPPY ALL THE TIME
MY BRAIN IS SO FRIED FROM STARING AT SCREENS ALL DAY I THROW A FIT IF I DONT GET MY EASY DOPAMINE
GUESS WHAT NIGGER, DOPAMINE ISNT SUPPOSED TO BE FREE

eat some garlic faggot

>>52423722
okay to be fair i took ritalin for 5.5 years and made a 5 million dollars before finally stopping drugs and it's true it's easier that i don't have to work but i feel like if i could go back i would 100% choose homelessness over that poision if it came to that.

>>52423773
i eat loads of garlic, even grow it at home

i'm just wondering why you're suggesting raw garlic specifically as a replacement for amphetamines lol

>>52423804
it unlocks parts of your brain that you didnt know existed
also gives you a bigger dick instead of a deflated little stim dick like half the fags in this thread

>>52423772
The advantage of it was lost when we stopped hunting and partaking in glorious battle. Now we are expected to sit at a screen clicking buttons for 10 hours a day and an inability to concentrate on a task more mundane than our ancestors could even fathom is seen as a mental health disorder than needs to be fixed in the name of economic output.
t. ADHD counterstrike God who would have slaughtered you all on the battlefield

>>52423394
>Small chance you have a dick for a doctor that doesn't think you actually need the meds
I have this feeling too, but she really wants to help me so I don't feel to dump her.

>>52422209
There's psychedelics like psilocybin and LSD; they have neurogenesis properties; microdose.

As mentioned, if you diagnosed with ADHD and you feel good taking it then keep on taking it. Please don't abuse it and stick to your dosage.

>>52423776
I stopped taking ritalin when I was 12, mum caught me smuggling the pills in my lip like a dog that didn't want to take medicine and heard me out. They legitimately helped me a ton and I still stopped because I didn't like the side effects. I don't regret making that decision, nor do I regret taking amphetamines to manage a medical condition I had diagnosed by two separate doctors, but motherFUCKER there are days when I wish I still had the pills. If my life was just a little bit different I'd be in a situation where it was take them and be productive and dealwithit.jpeg or just kill myself because death would be inevitable anyways - for that reason I get a bit heated when people mouth off online about how they don't help anyone. They help millions. It's the exact same argument as welfare; do you help people even if some of them are going to be shitters and abuse it, or do you just tell everyone to go fuck themselves and figure it out and come what may? Or do you just have the welfare and go after the folks you catch abusing it and let the poors decide for themselves if they want any assistance?

The latter seems far preferable to me than the alternatives.
>>52423773
For someone that hates stims so much you sure type like you're on them right now.
>>52423871
Sounds like she's a good doctor then. Just do the best you can, and if she thinks the meds are right for you talk to her about keeping the dosage low to prevent negative side effects. Too high a dose isn't good for your brain or your heart, you should aim to take as little as you need as sparingly as you need it.

>>52423949
no my brain just works at 110% because of the garlic

>>52423871
She's a good doctor, every doctor should always use medicine as the last resort.
unrestrained use of antidepressants and adderall is the reason why modern western adult got so fucked in their head nowadays

>>52423457
Most likely not the amphetamines. For one you haven't even had an ECG yet which is the initial preliminary check to even know if anything is off. But other than that you'll encounter BP issues long before anything cardiac with amphetamine abuse.

t. known people snorting 100mg+ daily for years, know someone who had a stroke and someone else who had a seizure but never any heart issues

>>52423949
Ritalin isn't an amphetamine you moron.

>>52422444
>green tea and garlic is all you need fren

dont listen to this idiot. if you are prescribed adderal, take it.

>>52424019
>Ritalin isn't an amphetamine you moron.

yes it is.

>>52422209
>fake dopamine pills so you convince yourself your work is fulfilling and enjoyable
yeah why not
what's your plan for when tolerance shoots up? (it will)
meth?

>>52424054
lmao

>>52424043
>shilling for big pharma jews for free
absolutely pathetic
ill live for 200 years and youre gonna be smoking meth under a bridge in 2

>>52424054
ADHD is usually caused by too much dopamine, ADD by too little. It's just easier to use the ADD example of not enough because then you don't have to break down drug interactions to explain shit. It's methylphenidate which is closely related to amphetamines but isn't strictly an amphetamine.

>>52424079
Never got this line with any meds. When tolerance rises you just take a break then restart. You're in no worse position during the break than before you were treated.

I've never had adderall but I had a similar talk with a doctor for sleeping pills. He said that eventually i wouldn't be able to sleep without them and I said ok but i can't sleep now so no issue. He then gave me 5mg diazepam which frankly have worked great since and i just take it as and when.

>>52424085
They're not even closely related. Chemically very different and the way they work biochemically is very different, just with a similar final result.

I got diagnosed with ADHD as a kid. My parents decided against meds. I had trouble reading, I failed a grade, high school I had to study for hours to get 70s. I dropped university. I dropped junior college. I never went out or partied or anything. Ni friends. No coffee. No drinking. No drugs. No girlfriend. It’s just a huge huge learning disability. I spent years working at block buster and studying programming. I got an entry level programming job that paid minimum wage. I didn’t realize I even had ADHD until I googled what was wrong with me and asked my parents. Moved around a ton and got better and better jobs, but life is fucking tough when you’re retarded. It takes me twice as long to learn things as a normie and work takes forever when your focus is fucked. I think in retrospect the meds would have made my life better. Coffee alone helped me a ton. ADHD blows. Like at least with some forms of autism you get to memorize a fuck ton of dinosaurs facts or whatever.

>>52424312
drink chia seed porridge
like 4tsp of chia and pour in hot water add honey
it will help with memory, only memory though
your working memory and long term memory will work as well as if you're on the meds
wont do anything for concentration or motivation though

>>52423370
they inhibit the dopamine reuptake, they literally stop your brain from discarding dopamine so quickly. clearly you dumb cunts have not actually done your research.
>>t. ADHD diagnosed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaQRLkvvp48
oh ye and exercise a lot
btw amphetamines repress testosterone
they'll give you bitch tits and make your body goblin mode
higher testosterone = higher motivation
go to the gym, build a nutrition and lifestyle around the fact you have adhd and accept you can't be the next mark zuckerberg or SBF
focus on doing something you naturally hyperfocus and obsess over

>>52422209
I used to take Adderall and it made me SUPERHUMAN at work and playing vidya but I slowly realized that it negatively impacted my ability to have normal emotional relationships with people around me. I quit it and now I make more money sober. I've learned to be productive without it. Its part of growing up and not becoming a junky.

Please dont eat raw garlic lol. its literally an antibiotic.

>>52424312
I feel you bro

you're all fucking retarded

meth/amphetamines are not that bad for you, whats bad for you is sleep deprivation. take all the amps you want just get good sleep, stay hydrated, and eat properly. you will be 100% fine.

of course most people that get into the stims cant manage them and end up neglecting everything except wanking off 13 hrs a day

t. smokes meth all day every day going on like 12 years now. i have absolutely no intention of ever quitting. no interest in life without it

ive been perscribed every stim under the sun but finally tried meth and it was the thing ive always been searching for. without it im a lazy useless fuck that sleeps all day stays up all night cant make it to work on time. with meth i sleep regularly eat regularly reliable and have interest in things. its a much better existence.

too bad you faggot retards gotta paint everyone who does meth as some homeless spun out flailer living under a bridge with no teeth

>>52425113
afraid i would end up gooning for 48hrs a day if i took meth kek
neet btw

>>52423413
Taking Vyvanse since a month now after being diagnosed recently at 32 and it doesn't do anything for me anymore already. I had some minor successes with my adhd in the first few days though. Even already took a break for a week but it didn't help. I took once 45mg instead of my 30mg but it only made me feel like shit. Ritalin and Strattera didn't help either. How fucked am I?

>>52425113
Do you get meth from legal routes?

>>52423712
It gives you an irresistible body odor

>>52423347
Build a good routine first.

>>52425898
Why not try a higher dose?
t. 140 mg daily.

>>52428970
When I was smoking literal meth with my hillbilly friends in the woods for a year I didn't take that much in a day, holy fuck anon.

>>52422521
no, but its benefits are very slight and most relevant to longevity, not sure who in their right mind would shill it over amphetamines. bromantane might be more your speed.

>>52422209
ADHD?

I am being assessed soon anon. Do the drugs work?

>>52425113
Written by a 3 letter agency melanin enriched individual

I take methylphenidate now. I stopped taking it during school because I hated the side effects, so I tried to make my life work without them for the better part of a decade.

But I got back on it about a year ago, and now I finally have a decent job (software job with no post secondary education), I'm going to be moving out soon, I've been exercising a lot, and my life is finally looking "normal".

I don't like taking ADHD meds, it feels like ingesting literal poison, but I can't participate in modern human society without them.

>>52422209
>green tea and garlic is all you need fren

Actually all you need to do is drink your urine which is not waste like we’ve been lied to but ultra filtered blood plasma that has all your critical antibodies, stem cells, minerals, vitamins, salts, hormones, enzymes, and amino acids to heal from anything.

I have fixed myself from several issues drinking it. If you anons drink your morning urine (mid stream) for a week straight I can not tell you how good and how at peace you will feel.

Also if you are fucked in the head from drug use or whatever, urine re-grows new brain neurons.

>Urine could be used as a powerful source of brain cells to study some disease, and could even be used one day in therapies to study neurodegenerative diseases. Scientists have found a way to persuade the cells discarded in urine to turn into useful neurons

https://scitechdaily.com/using-urine-to-make-brain-cells/amp/

Also I am the TRE anon. So I have some clout here.

>>52424312
>>52431775

Take the urine pill fren

>>52422444
>have about a 2 year lifespan before their brain is fucked
took it for 10 years, 20mg daily, can confirm. life after adderall is super fucked for years, possibly forever

>>52422511
this is what drug addict cope looks like

can I get a quick rundown on 4F-MPH? I'm priced out of pharma grade addies

>>52426813
Might try this sar.

>>52428970
>140mg
Jesus Christ. What do colors smell like?

>>52422511
Nice reddit spacing, coping addict

>>52423457
Caffiene is a meme productivity drug on its own.

It can just make you edgy and nervous and not more productive. I find high quality homemade coffee is alright, but the coffee store stuff is too strong and of dubious origins.

>>52424480
Chia seed pudding is good. Chia is low carb/keto. I like it with frozen blueberries.

>>52422511
>Oy vey you have ADHD because Dr. Shekelburg said so in the DSM V, better take my poison goy

>>52431775
How does it taste?

>>52432221
like literal piss

>>52422209
>it has improved my life drastically in the past year.
let's see if you make it another 10 years to come back and tell us how much its improved your life then

How do i get more amphetamines? Do i need to be a fake billionaire?

>>52422209

guys they're making fun of us over on /pol/ wat do

>>>/pol/404402647

;_;

>>52432214
My guy you clearly have no experience with adhd people. They are literal retards when theyre of their meds. Its true adhd meds turn you into a fucking zombie but I'd rather be a zombie than a disfunctional cunt

>>52432430
Man, it's fucking true. It's hard to care that a drug will eventually fuck you up when you were already an absolute failure without it

>>52423915
Those mushrooms are amanita muscara, they're neurotoxic and contain no psilocybin.

>>52423915
This stuff insinuating Christianity is a mushroom cult is fucking stupid. I read all the books. All a lot of wishful thinking hippie nonsense. Also, Amanita muscaria (the mushroom pictured) is a terrible “high” that no one does recreationally except for a few homeless Russian crackheads living in the mountains.

That being said, psilocybin is fun.

I used to binge snort adderall every weekend during my adolescence, even doses as high as 100mg, over time the good effects stopped and now it doesnt give euphoria anymore.. This seems to be permanent.. Did I fry the dopamine receptors? After this abuse my motivation was fucked for several years..

>>52423370
>>52423772
>>52423866
oh ADHD is most definitely a meme.
>12 yr old boy can't concentrate on the task at hand when asked to to sit behind a desk for a 8 hrs a day and listen to a nagging obese female public school teacher drone on and on about curriculum conjured up by affirmative action hire bureaucrats from their state's capital.
>"it must be he has a brain disorder! It's him! Not our totally ludicrous system!"

Some people just aren't wired to be happy little bugman drones of the system. They require more stimulation.

>>52431775
Lmao the jews dont want you to know this secret!! Eating poo poo is good for you!!

>>52423712
it gives you vim and vigor. also take a small spoonful of raw honey everyday

>>52432578
Yeah, it gets misdiagnosed. That doesn't mean the entire concept is a meme. Do you spend your entire life swinging between extremes like this?

>>52432525
perma-tolerance is real with some drugs. ketamine is one i know of for sure

>biz is shock full of (proud) drug addicts
Jesus, this place is a complete den of degenerates, faggots (literally), druggies and complete losers overall.

>>52432705
>t. bluepilled npc

>>52422209
I'm coming off of it. Kratom helps when you really can't focus. Take doses of ketamine once a week and it will give you a new perspective. It cured my depression and gave me motivation to work hard.

>>52432618
>Do you spend your entire life swinging between extremes like this?
Wdym? This is my first post of the thread.
>That doesn't mean the entire concept is a meme
Maybe. But there's definitely a trend psychiatry to try and pathologize everything that deviates from "normal".

>>52432763
I mean do you apply this very extreme take to all facets of your life? "The System abuses it, therefore it's bad in all cases" Feel free to ignore psychiatry on this, i didn't get diagnosed by a psychiatrist. I went to my personal doctor after seeing other people with my problems improve, asked for a prescription for Ritalin, and immediately got what I was looking for. This is the longest I've ever been able to hold a job, because i no longer just stop doing my work for no reason.

>>52424079
This. Also, why not just drink a strong coffee?

In my opinion being a midwit and self researching psychology, mostly ADD and to a lesser extent ADHD, and its reprocussions in adult life is linked with lack of attachment

The term literally refers to having a lack of attention. Also in a sense of being in lack of having receiving attachment. This fucks you up
But in my opinion being that fucked up will form your personality, and this just will be your true self.

If a college kid for example is diagnosed with ADD, its just because of having fucked up attachment -> low self esteem -> trying to live out your desires while day dreaming, because you are unable in the real world.
Medication just tries to overwrite this line of thinking
I think you arrive at a point where the side effects of taking it outweigh the benefits and you just make terms with you, while at least being in clear thoughts

But dont take my advice for it, I am a ADD dropout, living in basically poverty

I spent 10 years on 10mg of IR.

I was 10000% sure of 2 things:

1. I could not work without it
2. If i stopped, my work would suffer
3. The work i was doing was high quality

I abruptly stopped after being laid off and took a prolonged vacation.

I can say without a doubt - every one of those things was 100000000% false.

I am able to do the same work, much better, and for much longer now. I do not crash or get irritiable. I do not snap at people like i used to.

I sleep better like a normal person and my overall workflow has improved as a result.

The qualify of my work is so much better its not even funny.

I am never going back to that poison and I advise everyone else to get off it immediately. You don't need it, I promise you.

>>52433038

>>52422209

>take some adhd medication
>eat it snort it and boof it
>makes me extra horny and jerk off to tranny porn for 12 hours straight

>>52432054
It's literally ritalin with a fluorine atom stuck to it.

It is very good for focus. Having done both amphetamines and ritalin, I'm of the opinion that methylphenidate (ritalin) is probably the more 'medicinal' of the 2. You can focus easily on boring tasks (e.g work, study), there isn't too much euphoria and it doesn't last forever.

I love amphetamines but they feel too good. You become high as fuck, insanely happy regardless of what is happening, and super horny. Not only that but they last a long, long time so it's very easy to fall into the habit of masturbating for insanely long sessions (think 12h+, easily).

Perhaps worth mentioning however that here in the UK we do not have access to the same dosage-controlled, professionally pressed amphetamines (i.e adderall) that yanks have. I will concede that perhaps correctly dosed amphetamines yield better results as medicine as opposed to just sniffing keys of dutch amphetamine powder out the bag or parachuting eyeballed doses in the middle of a 15 hour wank session.

>>52433116
should've been i showed you my dick answer me desu famalam

>>52432870
>I mean do you apply this very extreme take to all facets of your life? "The System abuses it, therefore it's bad in all cases"
I never stated that tbf. Maybe I unintentionally implied that when I made my original statement in such an affirmative tone because I've been posting here too long. (outrageous and proactive post get (you)s here, not nuanced takes)

But if you want my honest nuanced take I'd hypothesize ADHD falls in the same category as depression and anxiety disorders. Some people have underlying genetic compositions that predispose an individual to them, but they don't come into full fruition until adequate agitation by the system/society/the modern world. So they are real in that sense but they're a meme in the sense that they are brought about by the system, and that very same system tries to attribute blame to those individuals who suffer from said mental afflictions.

>This is the longest I've ever been able to hold a job, because i no longer just stop doing my work for no reason.
But this doesn't seem to address my underlying and fundamental point that there's a 'mismatch' between some individuals and some societies that they're in. Maybe under a different society and in a different time, one not as nearly as monotonous and sterile as ours, you would've functioned fine without drugs. You're kinda just admitting you have to take drugs to function 'normally' in a system that you were born into by sheer chance.

>>52432054
I would generally avoid "RC" type substituted amphetamines due to the unknown receptor affinities and that sort of thing (I'm unsure actually what class MPH falls into chemically, as I can't really remember the structure)

I even generally am happier to stick to "clandestine" amphetamine of a reqsonable quality vs "lab grade" (well chinese lab lel) "exotic" amphetamines

>>52422209
It's a performance enhancing drug, do you use cheat codes when you play games? Have you no honor or pride?

>>52422209
If you have sex i don't recommend adderall, my wife wants sex all the time so I cant do it, i just like to relax with THC better as it doesn't affect sex much

>>52433038
Side effects of withdrawal may include: unnecessary namefagging and reddit spacing

>>52432083
It was a joke. Garlic makes you smell like you're 100 years old and it's only good as a light seasoning for your food. It is probably one the worst things for body odor only surpassed by tobacco and curry.

I eat like ten loaves of garlic per day, fuck you alll nerds

>>52434990
have fun with your internal beleedings and subarachnoid haemorrhage lmao

amphetamines should only ever be used in the same way that antidepressants are used: for a short period of time to get your life back on track.

using either of them long term is asking to get JUSTed

>>52422511
>You are likely disabled without it
FUCK OFF

>>52432221
If you eat a cheeseburger and do it 3 hours later it’s gonna taste like shit. If you drink a lot of water and eat clean for a day it’ll taste like coconut water when looping

>>52422209
I have it so bad I am literally a useless human being without my amphetamines. It's a cruel thing to have a fucked up brain.

>>52434391
Man that amphetamine dick sure is a bitch ain't it?

>>52435289
do you just drink your pee in the morning? why then specifically?

LMAO at all you fucked up losers

>>52422444

Take lion's mane mushrooms

>>52435541
based and mushroompilled. i combine that with a rotation of microdosing psilocybin/lsd every 3 days, use ketamine (NMDA receptor antagonist) for its ability to keep tolerances low and prevent withdrawal while being a lasting antidepressant and fun, kratom for energy or fun, benzos for the rare tough situation, cannabis, and some apple cider vinegar+vitamins to top it off. i try not to use the same substance more than 2 days a week. fuck amphetamines i have a weak heart and alcohol is literally poison

>>52436058
Do you have C-PTSD or something

>>52424043

>>52436663
there may be no MD's in this thread but there is an MB

>>52436629
yeah maybe. first time i've heard the term

>got off of adderall about 8 years ago (after 5 years of use for ADHD)
>lost all motivation to do anything with my life and am now stuck at a job I hate with my creative outlets drained
I’m so bored of life man

>>52423915
I cant get nothing from amanitas

But with cubensis I was received by a tribe of humanoids made of golden light, was showed an step pyramid with codes at every step, saw a modular structure made of triangles, was taken to a portal and trought it I saw myelf, older, tending some plants... The older me looked to me, and smiled and the vision fliped and I saw the eyes of a woman and she smiled too.. i could see by her eyes

Then I was droped into a pool of purple light
And came back to this world... Kinda off..
Lasted more 3 hours

Was ... I cant express ... They talked to me and I understood everything but even so I cant translate any word

Why me? From everyone there is... Why me?

There was also a giant reptile humanoid and that was the 1st vision... But I asked him for some directions and he got angry with me

>>52435541
Based and literally shroompilled. I combine with those rehydration tablets and an energy drink for maximum gainz.

>>52437524
If you have a history of trauma/ abuse in your developmental years it would stem from neglect, physical/ sexual abuse, etc. Then I would recommend MDMA therapy, you can do it solo as well. There's a solo guide by the Castalia Foundation:

https://castaliafoundation.com/

>>52423772
>evolutionary advantage

Mal adaptive traits get carried on all the time, all that matters is that you reproduce

I don’t get it maybe I’m just lazy and not materialistic enough to be on uppers.

>druggy for 15 years

I hate coke, speed, meth and even fucking coffee. It just makes me anxious, tight, nauseous and uncomfortable and that is not to mention the horrible dopamine comedown, constipation and suicidal thoughts.

I’m more of a ketamine freak. I like to be wonky and just cut off my brain from everything once in a while.

Just the smell of speed makes my stomach churn and my gag reflexes starts acting up.

>>52437702
>Why me?
That's exactly the same question I was asking after a strong revelation. My guess is that we're all capable of receiving higher knowledge, but we also need to be ready. Sometimes it can be too strong for our fragile psyche.

>>52437943
Forgot to mention is to [ignore] the recommendations for holotropic breathwork and the frequency of sessions, the frequency should be at least a 6 week break

There's also books

>The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma

>Healing the Shame that Bind You

>>52438016

Euro? What kind of cats do you guys have? Rotexchad here

>>52437943
>>52438125
thanks anon. mdma is on my list to try but haven't gotten around to it yet

>>52438231
Your welcome.
I'll be doing it solo for the first time, I've done it with facilitators present 3 times but I had trust issues and realized I can't do it with people present (facilitators) so I'll be doing it solo.
Hope you find that inner peace.

>>52435157
Long term use is justified if there is a real and permanent deficiency in dopamine or serotonin. Real non-snowflake ADHD and depression/anxiety secondary to TBI/similar justify long term use. These brains will never return to a 'normal' baseline with time.
For the tiktok sheep who think they have ADHD and the depressed people who are just going through a rough patch in life, you are 100% correct

I have moderate narcolepsy and adderall makes me “normal”, no more no less
so tired of all of the actual addicts and people that should have never been on it making it hard to get

>>52422209
i have concluded that stimulants are pretty based given you take them strategically.
while maybe they fuck up your brain or leave you dependent, in terms of maxing yourself out at the right time, its prob the best way to get ahead. most people reach their peak mental ability around 20s, younger than that really but depending on the field you need more time to absorb information. so sbf enhanced his bankman abilities with stimulants and truly became
'the ultimate bankman'

>>52439833
I have chronic major depression, SSRI's don't work for me, only SNRI's (I imagine because of the noradrenaline function). Should I ask my doc to look into stimulants?

I actually got tested by a legit ADHD evaluation doctor a few weeks ago. I struggle with procrastination, anxiety, etc. did fine in school but never picked a real work ethic so would always cram and never do shit on time. Was told I don’t have adhd as he believes it’s a developmental problem and I didn’t show signs of not being able to focus in elementary school. If other anons are like me, don’t do drugs. Meditate and work on yourself. Some anon made me aware of “mahamudra for the modern world” I’m 6 sessions in and my last one was quite profound.

>>52422444
>low tolerance/testfag detected
I've been smoking meth off/on since 2017 and nobody would know unless i told them. Never had any withdrawals either

>>52440443
its not like they would tell you

>>52440443
based

Ex girlfriend started 15mg/day— didn't really recognize her after a while

Distant, cold, ever increasing narcissist tendencies

Don't trust the shit now, part of having a soul is life isn't awesome all the time

>>52432112
kek

>>52440536
That's just women. Estrogen is much stronger.

>>52422209
Take more. I wish I could get my hands on some. Drink coffee to cope

>>52422209

Switch to moda, the limitless pill.

>>52422521
ignore that retard. $100 says he doesn't know what a synapse is and just spouts dudeweed herbal "medicine" advice

>>52432655
all dissociatives, pcp and especially dxm.

What is the deal with Ritalin vs Vyvanse or Adderall?

>>52431574
Kek

>>52423000
post filthy dreadlocks and unwashed bong

Not amps but I am dependent on energy drinks and nicotine to function, otherwise i’m always tired and can’t stop zoning out.

>>52424085
ADHD and ADD are the same thing you retard

>>52433139
who is this

>>52424312
I love you even if you're retarded
I wish we didn't have to medicate people to be productive

>>52422209
I've been prescribed high levels of amphetamines since I was 8 years old. Concerta, Vyvanse, Focallin, Adderall, you know it. I have no interest in anything without my daily. Is what it is.

>>52431775
>The practical method of urine cell isolation includes the centrifugation of the collected sample at 400 g followed by an antibacterial wash of the pellets (to avoid contamination) and later seeding them onto culture plates

Yeah, I don't think you know what you're doing

I have ADHD too (not professionally diagnosed, but my uncle has confirmed ADHD and everyone says I act exactly like him). I refuse to take Adderall or other meth-lite medications, because I don't want to become dependent on meds just to function. I want to overcome this naturally.

The best medication for me is music. I noticed that it's hard to focus on mundane 9-5 work like people here mention. When I get home though, I can spend hours practicing and playing classical music. There are so many different hidden gems in Western classical music. Especially J.S.Bach. As silly as it sounds, it feels like I'm playing a beautifully constructed mathematical equation when I play Bach. His music feels like solving a big math problem in a beautiful way. I've gotten very good at piano now. It's the only time I can ever feel like I can focus on an important task.

Oh, and lots of coffee/energy drinks too. Like >>52441177 said.

>>52422209
the more scandal on twitter the better for everyone, I never saw this affecting the market in a bad way, even now I can take advantage of nfts with zoodao, everything is going quite well kek

>>52432920
So how do you regain attachment?

Moda helped me when I was working 1st and 3rd shift jobs simultaneously 80 hours a week. It keeps you awake and slightly zombifies me. If you need to focus on some gargantuan task stimulants are crucial. methylphenidate is better than amphetamine because it isn’t as damaging to your dopamine system. If you regularly take stimulants like this you will create a new baseline. Most chronic go-getter type A, usually business owners and entrepreneurs use cocaine because it “keeps you sharp between the ears”. For people that have used and abused Adderal their entire life and only sleep 4 hours a night it appears to serve a purpose.

In my experience the people who fall off are the ones who don’t sleep and don’t take care of themselves. If you’re cooking your brain with exogenous chemicals you should supplement max and literally eat your veggies + touch grass. Take turmeric to protect your cardiovascular system bros. Take NAC & ALA if you’re playing hardball with your receptor sites, they protect the mitochondria and allow you to stay reasonably not retarded for longer. Exercise to upregulate dopamine receptor sites. Stop masturbating. Eat psychedelics every day

If you've reached this adivce all you need to know and trust is you own god-given ability to heal.
The only two points of adivce I want to give you is, that no matter what comes up, just let it pass and recenter your focus on your breathing. Prayer works well with this, and peace.

Besides that, it feels great afterwards. It took me years but everything reconnects, and the more painful work I had procastrinated came up totaly in order of importance. The healing process truly is mariculous. Godspeed.

>>52441477
Can confirm the music alpha, also you're probably too paranoid about Adderall if you actually have ADHD. Personally my life would have been over without it, destitute with not fitting in with normal wagie morons, nor being capable of a STEM degree.
With:
Multi-vitamin + adderall + coffee + classical music I can achieve perfect focus tirelessly, achieving the opposite of what was to be my fate.

>>52422209
He was taking other stuff that was fucking him up, it wasn't solely or even mostly the amphetamines

>>52424085
ADD is no longer even a diagnosis dumbass.

>>52425794

when you first start doing meth you will be very high. i think i stayed up for 9 days straight once during my first using days. you'll be very spun out but its a good time. people will notice somethings up for sure

eventually when you keep doing it every day, day after day, you basically stop getting high. your brain only has so much dopamine. this is a good thing, because life isn't really managable when youre spun outta your fuckin tree all day every day.

eventually it mellows out and you just feel good. not spun, but focused and awake. energized. interested. i can basically smoke a huge bowl and pass right out after if i had a hard days work that day. i would argue it makes me fall asleep even easier.

if i for some reason run out the come down isnt even a problem. its just like being really tired for a couple days. the sleep is amazing so its almost enjoyable in its own way.

for me ive been holding steady at an eight ball a week like clockwork. a guy can only smoke so much meth.

and to the other anon above, no ive had the same dealer the entire time, some hells angels biker i met somehow forever ago. really good dude. i would love a legal means but the doctors would never give me an eightball a week worth of perscription. plus the shits dirt cheap, probably cheaper than any pharmacy. i pay 80 a ball.

doubt the pharmaceutical shit would even be any better anyways. as i sometimes for shits and giggles run the meth i buy through an acid base extract (acetone and methyldrate) and end up with the same amount of product as i start with, indicating its basically pure as it is.

>>52445266

acetone and methyl hydrate* (also known as methanol, wood alcohol, denatured alcohol)

meth is extremely soluble in the methyl hydrate, but it wont dissolve whatsoever in acetone. so you rinse it with both of those, i do acetone first as its just a simple gold panning type operation then you dump off the excess acetone and let it air dry/evap. the you dissolve it in the methanol, really cold methanol, and just let the whole plate evaporate preferably in the freezer without disturbing it and the meth binds to itself and forms one big crystal again. after the acetone stage its literally fine powder so its pretty neat.

anyways rant over.

>>52431574

oh yea i forgot to mention im not sure what you're on about here lol. can't figure out the joke.

oh and one last thing, all the other stimulants fucking suck ass. vyvanse, adderal, dexedrine, cocaine, caffeine, ritalin, are the ones ive been on heavily until i tried meth and it was everything i wanted those other stimulants to be. its literally in a league of its own. you couldnt pay me to take any of the lesser amps anymore.

>>52425113
Meth is absolutely terrible for you, pretty much every homeless person is some previously normal person who had their life destroyed by meth. 'New' meth is fully of neurotoxic chemicals that cause damage that can't easily be recovered from https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/the-new-meth/620174/

>>52445362
you'll lose all your teeth

When i was kid the whole aderall scene wasnt there yet. Parents thought an extra beating, strict raising and less candy would help.

Got the diagnose in early 30's after years of self medicating with all kinds of shit to feel normal. At some point i even thought i was bipolar because of the retarded euphoria, zero attention span and hyperfocus at times. Energy for days even though i slept like 3-4 hours of sleep (no stimulants).

At some point found some balance in work/personal life etc by having an enormous hangover everyday from booze. Thought mill slower, energy maintainable. When i stopped drinking for a few weeks because of the health issues; high blood pressure and daily shitting regime of the gods the people who havent seen me without a hangover in years thought i was on drugs when sober.

Went to the doctor to check out some lumb in the gut because i've experimented with hgh for sleeping for a month as well. She mentioned adhd and suggested to get tested.

Got pills, never felt better and organised. If you think something has been your entire life get a test. They know what they're doing

>>52423772
I have diagnosed ADHD and I’ve always noticed shit in my environment that normies miss. Walking in the woods I’m the first to spot animals, berries, mushrooms etc. Can’t focus on a computer or TV screen for shit though. We would have been based hunter gatherers.

>>52434440
Kek

>>52446200
It's called the "hunter vs farmer hypothesis". People find it incredible when they're reminded that were weren't supposed to be trapped in modern hellhole dystopian societies but still have the audacity to wonder why they're miserable depressed, anxious, feel isolated or like they don't fit in and over all just plain fucking miserable even when we're hyper connected thanks to glowing plastic and glass rectangles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_versus_farmer_hypothesis

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7248073/

>140 mg
wow, that's ridiculous. 50 mg was enough for me to fuck off and ignore everyone in my life. 6-7 hours of jacking off. Vyvanse fucked me, 10mg of amphetamine salts ended up being the right thing for me, but I'm off that too now for the last 2 months. I finally feel like myself again. I'm drinking way more coffee and eating worse afterwards, but I think it's worth being sober.

>>52433139
this seems to be a very common step in the addy pipeline

>>52433038
based and agreed after fighting a similar battle for 10 years

>>52434440
lol

>>52423111
>countless exertions of effort involved in ascending to a much higher elevation

There's no way this bitch hiked anything other than some sub 1000ft west coast style flat dirt trail considering she took off on a whim with 0 planning.

>>52422444
>>52422521
>>52422816
>>52423804
>>52423963
>>52424043
>>52424748
>>52434990

what are some garlic stocks i can invest in? I want to go long garlic. Or should I start a garlic pharma company

I take 5mg Adderall IR. I don't drink alcohol/caffeine/processed sugar I only take it on days I need it. It's a godsend for getting mundane boring shit done and learning. I'm taking a 70 hour course aiming to get my AWS certs.

It's been great so far, but I plan to only use it to the point where I achieve financial independence.

To the people in here with actual attention issues, do not listen to the trolls ITT. The routine I'm on with it is great. And yours can be too

>>52441477
As someone else with ADHD I want you to know that self medicating with caffine is basically taking a lighter version of adderal, people with adhd unironically process that shit and adderal different than normies. It's why they destroy their brain when they try to take it. Adderal brings adhd people to the same levels normies are at without it

>should i get off a hard drug that is not sustainable w/ long term reprocussions?
what do you think retard?

>>52448743
do you have a single fact to back that up? nigger?

>>52422209
>10mg every other day
Holy shit. Calm down Tony Montana.