/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>52402206
>I posted it AGAIN

>>52402206
Just ask questions to your co-worker and listen to them talk to you while nodding every now and then. Notice who are the most talkative people who also get along with management and do that with them especially.
Have lunch with them and run the same routine. You don't have to be talkative, just be a good listener (or pretend to).

>>52402206
Lmao same shit. Biweekly "talk" with female manager. Her constantly getting me to go out for department/team dinners and other fucking stupid social events. I can't refuse because shes my boss but holy fuck. The only feedback from her is that I need to talk more. Bitch im doing my job faster than my predecessor since everyone else is surprised when I get shit done in less than 10 minutes when they ask me to. Fuck the office. Im going to get fired for not being a social butterfly of a female.

>>52402206
Maybe learn a valuable skill and find a real job

>>52402206
you put your effort into the wrong thing, work on the social aspect, disregard all work related shit.

In fact just talk to people for an hour a day, do work for another then come back here to shitpost for the rest of the day.
t. 220k wagecuck at work rn

>start office job
>female manager
>things going well, work being done on time
>job involves generic officeshit, emailing lots of people, asking other people to send or do little bits of work
>nothing but praise from manager
>few months in
>she gives off signs that she wants to fuck
>get to the point of SEX
>her tits are uneven
>about to take her from behind
>her asshole is really really brown
>massive roastflaps
>smells bad
>cant get hard

>>52402284

I feel so fucking stupid for not learning programming. The number of jobs and job security is crazily high.

It’s so unbelievably basic to build rapport in the office. You literally just talk to them semi occasionally. It hardly matters about what, you just make it a point to do that. Humans are very simple creatures. What’s scary is the unknown. So when you drop by, share a thing or two, ask a random question, people just like you more.

>>52402284
>Be me, welder
>Locate most antisocial, aggressively unhelpful coworkers
>Wish them good morning
>Don't speak to them at lunch
>Give them a lift then fuck off
>Become best bros
>Wish them good morning
>Don't speak to them at lunch
>Give them a lift then fuck off

>>52402325
Yes it it, but don't forget that's part of the credit cycle and we're in a big consumption phase, so high demand for products, start ups, and since the internet does things more efficiently programmers are needed.

However it will revert to the mean, meaning good programmers may be in high demand forever, but midwits making $100k/yr for doing no work or web "dev" will be flushed sooner than later in favor or engineers needed in energy, manufacturing, the trades basically and it's gonna happen sooner than later.

In my europoor country I work in the trades and although my job exactly isn't necessarily secure, the skills I have already land me any similar type of job since they are filling them with immigrants who aren't up to the same work standards and have trouble learning and I think the trend is continuing in many western countries

>>52402206
you posted this exact thread a few days ago anon. go read that thread instead of making the exact thread over again and expecting different results. thats insane behavior.

>>52402427
No, that's 4chan for years now, the same threads over and over again

say to HR the principles of your religion encourages being quiet

>>52402206
this thread again

>start office job
>female manager

>>52402476
>how to not get hired

Get an autism diagnosis and play the savant retard. Seriously. It’s better than being unemployed, and you’ll have legal protections against this sort of bullshit

>>52402206
let them know that theyre not a good culture fit and they should be flexible enough to accommodate all types of non neurotypical autismo fart fart fart fart fart fart fart fart fart fart fart fart fart fart fart fart fart fart fart fart fart fart fart fart melk haha and then just walk out

>>52402206
All of your hard work means nothing and people only value likability.
You can cry about it or you can play the game.
I do a lottle of both.

>>52402206
this fucking happened to me when i was wageslaving at UPS
I got singled out for not working fast enough by my nigger supervisor and he kept threatening to haze me with dumb bullshit and trying to get me to work faster for no reason. Every other day threatening to fire me

>>52402206
just become a craftsman of some sort and work alone

>>52402206
Anon, just ask people about their weekend, interests. You can be incredibly autistic and still be fairly sociable.

>>52402427
It's a tradie posting falseflag copes.

The corporate world is dominated by extroverts. You're not going to change this by being a wallflower and crying about it on 4chan. At least pretend to have social skills. Then you can be known as the "weird" one instead of the quiet one.

>>52402206
Office jobs are 95% cheerleading and 5% productivity. I used to work IT for a call center and had insights into the workforce. Of 100 agents, only 3 did 80% of the entire workload. The other 20% of the workforce was divided between the top 30 and the other 67% of the workforce existed only to provide gossip, create drama, suck the boss's dick, and inflate our employment numbers to get better subsidies from the government. It was mostly a game of farce and illusion. Doing the actual work is for suckers when all you have to do is put on an act every once in a while.

I just do my job and nobody cares that I'm not social. I guess I'm lucky.

>>52402206
you already made this shitty thread

>>52402206
It JUST HAPPENED TO ME for the first time.

So... last week I went on a MANDATORY 2 DAYS TRIP with the whole division. not "business trip" but "holiday trip" with co-workers, like with 60 of them. We went to remote province and sightseeing... everyone was having fun with their own cliques except me who just walked alone, wandering randomly. but no one actually cared, so It's all fine.

And then the final event of the trip... A DISCO PARTY WITH QUIRKY COSTUMES with everyone at the hotel's ballroom. everything went well, the mini games were actually fun and the foods were delicious... AND THEN.

>FASHION SHOW!! EVERY DIVISION GO ON THE STAGE AND SHOWCASE YOUR STYLE!
I'm the only one with kind of regular clothing. my co-workers of the same division wore quirky costumes. we then went to the stage with some weird hopping, spinning, clapping walk and made some poses... except me. EXCEPT ME. I DIDN'T HAVE THE GUTS OR THE WILLINGNESS TO THROW AWAY MY PRIDE TO DO EMBARRASSING SHIT IN FRONT OF EVERYONE. as a result, because I'm THE ONLY ONE who did NOT do the stupid embarrassing shit thing, I ended up being THE EMBARRASSING one. I was the odd one.

but that's fine because the next entry was so wild and high energy that everyone forgot about my "performance" (hopefully).

AND THEN
>EVERYONE! NOEXCEPTION! EVERYONE GO TO THE STAGE AND DAAAAAAAANCE
everyone just start dancing like crazy "WOOOOOOO" jumping around with hands up laughing... again, I; WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO DIDN'T DO THAT. literally everyonewas acting like a party people extroverted maniac EXCEPT ME. I was the only one standing doign nothing because I can't get myself to do something soooo stupid.

Then I ran away to go back to my hotel room and sleep. I'm 100% sure no one noticedd because they were too focused having too much fun dancing around like retards.

I DON'T GET IT
I DON'T GET HOW NORMALFAGS ARE SO EXTROVERTED AND DANCING AROUND

60 PEOPLE AND I'M THE ONLY ONE, THE ONLY ONE WHO ISN'T LIKE THAT?

>>52404617
I'm 25 years old
It was my first corporate job.
Everyone was so "family oriented" and best buds with each other.
I don't get it. I just don't get it.
I want to work... to work, not have fun and make friends and families... STOP FUCKING PEER PRESSURING ME INTO JOINING YOUR CULT
I HATE IT
I HATE IT
I HATE IT

any job where I can ACTUALLY WORK 24/7 so I wouldn't even have time for social bullshit? I'm working in Finance industry by the way...

>>52404617
Trannies like you can't have fun kek

>>52404668
Your "fun" is torture and extremely stressful for me

>>52404617

Nightmare fuel, I would have had an anxiety attack.

>>52404664
>>52404714
As an autist hiding among normies, I can very much relate (although I'm now 34). I've had very similar experiences twice in my previous company, where we'd have "summits" abroad, with close to 3,000 people joining from various countries.

The one thing that helped me bigly is to learn to enjoy getting drunk. Before I'd never drink as I'd fear getting drunk and losing control. But once I broke that barrier, I learned to use drinking as a tool to loosen up, and that did wonders for me. Even ended up kissing for an hour with a qt3.4 colleague from some central European country I'd never heard of kek

Not sure if that would work for you... But for me it was a big help. Now that I'm older though, I've just learned to say no as I realized I value my time too much, and getting drunk isn't as fun as it used to be. But that ability to say no without spilling my spaghetti is only something I started getting after like 10 years of so of experience.

>>52402206
Here's the trick dude: ask to get coffee randomly with your managers. You don't have to actually go get it, but the fact you asked will make you seem more social. If they say yes just ask them bs questions about themselves and listen for ten minutes. Retards and females love droning on about rheir meaningless existences.

>>52404617
>>52404664
You’re afraid of showing who you truly are because you’re afraid of rejection, so you play the role of the impassive guy who is above all that and who doesn’t need others, and so you end up being alone, but it hurts you less because it is of your own making, rather than you longing for human connection and others rejecting you

Though deep down you probably do feel alone and sooner or later you’ll have to push against that fear or the loneliness will eat you from the inside

>>52402863

This nigga gets it

You guys are lying faggots a kid on my team is a sperg lord with 0 social skills for anyone outside our team yet is a fucking work horse and just got promoted within his first year despite never talking to anyone and when he does talk can barely look people in the eye. Or maybe it’s because you willingly take on a position with a female as your boss lmao.

>>52404048
Even if so, OPs hypothetical is within the realm of possibility. I have seen massive corporations assign two project managers to the same project, one enterprise, on technical. That's how these retarded women have jobs. Their entire job could be accomplished by outlook task reminders and due dates. And when women aren't kept sufficiently mollified they start shit and try to get people fired. It is how they are.

>>52402206
Tel them you’re diagnosed autistic.
They will leave you alone.

>>52404818
not possible since I'm in a muslim country (though I'm a kaffir beacuse Im too autistic to believe in some stupid religion).

>>52402206

last job I left I was told that I "wasn't networking enough" and "didn't seem like I cared about the company" the very next week I requested time off to attend a networking event and was denied as "I had too much work to do"

Leave toxic piece of shit companies as soon as possible. They set you up for failure and the gaslighting will only get worse as time goes on. Also don't be a company man... they were upset that I didn't work past 5 PM and showed up at 8, and took an hour lunch every day. They will fire you the second they find some other sucker or their bottom lines are at risk.

Needless to say I quit within a month of that exchange. I work a government job and make the exact same amount of money with about half of the drama. I also work harder because I actually care and have a supportive work environment.

>>52404617
I hate corporate cult mentality type shit where they want so badly for everyone to get along they force these cringe ego sacrifice rituals. I have seen it done so many times. I am ashamed to admit that I did engage in them when I essentially younger, just to fit in.

>>52404907
Wait so all of this shit, the costume dancing, quirky costume contest etc, it's all done with everyone fully sober?
If so then huh.. yeah, I'm sorry anon.

>>52404907
>>52405019
This sounds like an advanced and nuanced kind of cringe hell. I would pay money to see video.

oh look it's this made up story copypasta thread again

>>52405005
What I hate the most is that my co-workers are actually nice people. I feel like they genuinely want me to "open up" and be part of their big family. WELL I DON'T WANT THAT AND I ALREADY OPENED UP SINCE DAY 1. I'VE BEEN THE REAL ME SINCE THE BEGINNING AND I JUST HATE OVERSOCIAL STUFF.

I actually love WORKING together with people in team, but not for this non-work shit.

>>52405019
>t's all done with everyone fully sober?
yes.
crazy isn't it?
I can't believe all these normalfags, half of them with fucking hijab and none with revealing outfits are bunch of party animals.

>>52405055
I have a lot since all co-workers share tons of videos on their social media. but i don't wanna dox myself.

>>52402206
How many times has this thread been posted?

Can’t relate.
While I am an introvert and fairly anti-social, I am also hilarious so the few times I do say something it’s usually a joke so everyone likes me.
Had a big presentation for my department head just this week and while I nervously rushed through my slides, I capped it off with a joke about only ditching WFH when someone celebrates a birthday and earned big boomer laughs all around.

>>52402206
Larping as a normie in a professional corporate environment is the easiest most prescriptive thing ever especially if you communicate on teams a lot. You are expected to be smiley and fake, try working in a blue collar environment as an autist where they don't have to pretend that they don't think youre a weird unfunny piece of trash.

If you get a manager that expects you to not just try but succeed in tickling their specific sense of humor then it's easier to just reroll and find one that doesn't have that demonic constant need to sus you out socially.

>>52404617
Can't relate desu
i just coldly reject normies focus on being the best at my job so i become unfirable and any other compliant wouldn't matter because i'm good at what i do.
>come late to work
>don't socialize with co-workers
>get my work done faster than anyone else
>play weeb shit on my laptop, once i get all my work done.
>tell normal fags who invite me to, places, to fuck off ( it typically only takes 1 or 2 rejections so they won't fuck with you anymore)

take initiative dude, be assertive, stop being such a ball of fear, it's honestly disgusting.

>>52405314
This is exactly how I am. I WFH and I hardly participate in the social stuff but whenever I do it's just to make a safe for work joke and everyone likes me because of it. Not going to the office party, rarely show my face on zoom, rarely have something to say in the meetings or when they're joking around. Just drop a one liner here or there and they love me. Plus I'm handsome. Get fucked OP you're just too retarded, and they're not "over socialized", humans are social creatures, we ARE the weirdos.

If this keeps happening, instead of ruining your life how about you just learn how to fucking socialise

>>52402206
The only solution to this is to create your own company and be your own manager. You just have to understand it.

>>52402264
this. people LOVE talking about themselves and their stupid bullshit. Just keep asking questions and they will talk forever
>>52402206
or just work remote anon. min human contact

>>52402273
>I can't refuse because shes my boss
Kek, wagies. I have never been at the office and I worked at the same company for five years now. At most once a quarter zoom meeting

>>52402206
Just make friends you fucking narcissistic loser.
You're not the only one who fucking hates being there, we all know the work is shit but we make it bearable by being good to each other and asking about each others lives.
Literally get your head out of your ass and start practicing your social skills, it's not that fucking hard to ask about someone's hobbies.

>>52404617
sounds pretty cringe anon, I wouldve done the same. I think it shows how good of a leader you are too. those who blaze their own path and do what they want are leaders. My friends who would join in are very kuh followers.

>>52406652
Kys normie tard

>>52402273
>I can't refuse because shes my boss but holy fuck
yes you can just say no faggot.
read my post >>52406109


>>52406652
>You're not the only one who fucking hates being there, we all know the work is shit but we make it bearable by being good to each other and asking about each others lives.

boomers like you are the worst, you guys are pathetic needing the validation of others to feel accepted, if you need friends at work you need to get a life dude. I have real family and friends i have back at home, not co-workers as friends. if your entire life revolves around work i feel sorry for you slavie wagies.

>>52407031
I'll reeeee on your grave you fucking roody poo

I wish I wasn't self-aware.
And I don't mean that good side of being self-aware, but literally crippling, and I mean crippling levels of self-awareness of every little miniscule detail. When I interact with someone I over analyze that interaction to the smallest possible detail afterwards, small talk is almost impossible to me because of it. I am aware of the speed I am talking, the posture I am holding, the tone I am expressing, the eye contact I am holding, the body language I am expressing, my brain is literally working on overdrive 110% every single time and as soon as I do something "wrong" in any of these things I feel like I did something terribly wrong. Every single second feels like an hour and I am constantly in fight or flight mode. And later I deconstruct that same interaction for weeks and months to no end.
Every social interaction is like Q&A conversation in a RPG game, but instead of 3 possible questions/answers and endless time to pick the correct response there's like 3 million possible questions/answers to choose from and a deadly awkwardness timer going on, where if you don't quickly pick a response in milliseconds and not picking the right response results in me nearly dying right there on the spot.

I want to erase that, to just be able not to think about any of that and not act manually. To be able to just talk about the weather or something dumb like that without thinking much about it.

>>52407515
>have a real family and friends
>never hang out with coworkers or go to corporate events
>still probably the most liked guy in the office because I ask questions and remember peoples stupid fucking things
You're an actual retard if you don't become king of the normies the day you walk into the place.
Enjoy never getting promoted and having a hostile work environment for the rest of your life.

>>52407657
>Enjoy never getting promoted and having a hostile work environment for the rest of your life.
nigger you probably work a meaningless job if thats how you get promoted. I've actually been promoted several times within the year i've work at my job. thats why i can afford to be cocky about my position, because i'm actually useful. In a real job if you take the responsibility that no one else wants to do you've pretty much become unreplaceable no matter how much they hate you.
but again you're gonna probably seethe, about it because you literally have no real meaningful life outside work, MANY SUCH CASES.
sad!!!!

>>52407581
Welcome to the neurotic autist club. No, you can't leave. Sorry.

>>52407737
You double nigger, I have the best of both worlds. I do good work and get promoted over seniority, but the normies don't hate me because they think I'm their friend.

You can have your cake and not be a cunt about it too.
You're clearly a larping faggot either way because you don't want to operate in the real world and want to pretend you live in a meritocracy. I guarantee you're sniffed out in first round interviews and are the one projecting your insecuries about your own dead end life on to me.

Enjoy frog posting and larping about the life you'll never live.

>>52408253
>I guarantee you're sniffed out in first round interviews and are the one projecting your insecuries about your own dead end life on to me.
sure dude, i'm the one projecting. thats why you will make up fake situations about me LOL.

>>52408571
>comes into thread
>makes shit up about me
>then claims I'm the one who started the fictional storytelling
You're pathetic

>>52404617
A lot of people are pretending. I can fake it for about 25 seconds, which is often enough. Or I go with the 'boring people' (usually much better, you find them around the food usually), or with the smokers, or I just go wandering around the venue or in the woods to pass time, avoid the cringiest moments, and recharge some energy.

On some rare occasion I found a like-minded girl to pass time with, fake being social and avoid stupid comments.

Then again my company isn't nearly as retarded as yours. The obligatory part of the get-together usually last 1 hour, and you pass the test if you drink one drink, talk to 1 guy, and stay long enough to hear the boss make his speech. So when you're lucky you can leave honorably after 15 minutes, together with the women who have kids-waiting-at-home etc.

>>52404617
If the government didn't exist, we would be slaughtering normies by the thousands. But government monopolized violence and these animals are allowed to breed.

>>52404617
>EXCEPT ME. I DIDN'T HAVE THE GUTS OR THE WILLINGNESS TO THROW AWAY MY PRIDE TO DO EMBARRASSING SHIT IN FRONT OF EVERYONE
Stop mistaking your fear for pride. Do you think they feel embarrassed? No you dumb fuck, they aren't experiencing what you're experiencing. They're not suffering like you are because they aren't as fucked in the head. You're so stupid. They can COMFORTABLY do that shit and actually even have fun with it, and people like them more. They have positive feedback loops, which then gives them more confidence to do things which morons like you find embarrassing because you're so full of fear, ego, and narcissism.

>>52404617
>>52404836
Only one with the proper assessment. You are not better than them, it is not "so stupid", you are just a social inept fucking retard and your woes are entirely narcissistic.
>>52409615
No you would not you fucking loser. Delusions of grandeur are delusions for a reason. You would be the first to die because you are weak and timid as fuck.
>>52406749
Fucking delusional as fuck. Leaders are very sociable and can woo people. Leaders take full accountability and don't consider their weaknesses as things that make them so special. You can't lead shit, you don't get laid or have friends, stop deluding yourselves. You have a PROBLEM, the world isn't wrong for being able to interact with each other comfortably, it's YOU that is the anomaly, and not a good one.

I don't like any of that normie shit, but I don't delude myself into thinking I'm better for it. And if I am, i would be ahead of the game, I'd be the one running the company wouldn't I? Because I'm so special and smart. Yet you fucking losers are at the bottom of the hierarchy, genuinely convinced it's because you're exceptional. Fucking lmao. I'm so self assured i make people around me antisemetic.

Install a network wide kill switch and flee to Mexico when they fire you.

>>52410481
I never said leaders are not sociabled and can't be.
>laid, friends
why are you so projecting so much anon? I have plenty of these and a good life.
>youre at the bottom because you won't dance with stupid Normie's!
I'm not and I won't because its stupid. I do what I want. I'm a chad, I dont really care

>>52410757
>I'm a chad, I dont really care, im above dancing, having fun and socializing
I don't have a reaction image strong enough to express how fucking retarded and unconvinced anyone is of this statement. So a simple LMAO will do.
LMAO

>>52402206
Do trauma release exercises and/or drink your urine and you’ll open up and not be such a anti social weirdo

>>52404617
just drink the alcohol you teetotaling retard

>>52410835
why do I care? you wrote a long retarded post just angerly projecting. Dont care, I could best your ass easy nerd

>>52410993
>don't care I'm so cool and above it all
yet you keep responding you fucking low IQ gorilla nigga. Shut the fuck up, go back to your reclusive cubicle you loser, just make sure you don't talk to one of the females at the office or you'll have a visit to HR you fucking troglodyte.

>>52411066
>cubicle
I work from home, lmao. I live the comfy remote life.
>females
All the females try to talk to me, lmao. I'm a tall chad, they wanna get with me and I gotta beat them away. unless they are marries of course that would be weird

>>52402206
I know the feeling lad. I have generally been and felt 'outside the group's unless I created the group. It was like this in school, when I tried to become an army officer they said I was 'peripheral to the group' and didn't show enough team membership.. now I am learning/working in a trade and I don't really spend lunch with the lads preferring to be alone despite getting along with everyone.

It's difficult but atleast not female manager bullshit