/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>52361799
>2 days after the so called election
democracy is great

>>52361799
no refunds lmao
another generation learns never to trust democrats

>>52361830
hoho haha

>>52361799

Time for more Aeva then

https://stocktwits.com/symbol/AEVA

>>52361813
>>52361830
Republican judges shut it down and called it unconstitutional.
Nice try though

why would you want loan forgiveness? pay up u fucking gipsies

>>52361892
And Biden knew very well they were going to do that.

>>52361892
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T GIVE OUT THE MONEY THAT WE PRINT AN INFINITE AMOUNT OF TO THE CITIZENS! THAT IS SUPPOSED TO GO TO UKRAINE!

>>52361892
>republican
*federal
lmao

>>52361931
It's a meaningless gesture as long as tuition remains costly.

>>52361892
>8th court
>Republican
loooooooooool these are the same niggys who blocked the wall for 4 years. Im starting to think they're just the fall guys to get presidents out of their promises. "Sorry goys it's the damn (((8th court)))."

>>52361922
>>52361931
>S-SEE? DEMOCRATS LIED! S-SO WHAT IF THEY TRIED AND REPUBLICANS STOPPED IT T-THEY KNEW IT WOULDNT WORK THEREFORE T-THEYRE TO BLAME AND NOT THE JUDGES WHO SHUT IT DOWN
You poltards are fucking D E L U S I ON A L

>>52361965
I thought the same thing

>>52361892
>>52361965
Same freaking judge that said it was okay for American Airlines to mandate the freaking vax or some shit.

>>52361799
unironically seething

>>52361799
College undergrad should be free, it's all shit you just did in high school anyway which is a fuckin ripoff

>Biden pulls the rug on student loans the moment the democrats aren’t annihilated in the elections

>>52361799
ya'll got played sweaties

You took out a loan. Pay it back.

>>52361976
It means Biden lied because he knew he could pin the blame on someone else who acted exactly as he knew they would act. I'm not a Republican voter, I've never even set foot in the Americas. I'm only interested in truth, U.S. bipartisan retardation does not interest me. This whole thing is so fucking transparent.

>>52361799
They are going to go full Demonrat now, they know they are fucked in the next election

>>52361799
This is fucking people up. Lots of people would have paid off their loans if they'd stop promising to forgive then. You'd have to be an idiot to pay them off and then have Laquisha get 20k when you get fucked.

I don’t really care since I’m basically debt free anyway. I just can’t stand the inconsistency of these neocon Republicans. They don’t actually want to conserve anything. They would gladly write a blank check to fund endless wars or bail out companies. At least be consistent. True brainlet thinking.

Thanks for the vote, Jack.

>>52362101
People who could've paid off their loans that easily over this short period 1. can still afford to pay off their loans, 2. didn't need the relief in the first place.

>>52362102
And good luck trying to remain a viable party. If they don’t learn to pick their battles, there will never be another Republican President again. Solid red states are turning purple and swing states are turning blue. What a great strategy they have.

>>52362102

>democrat lies and makes a fake promise about giving free shit even though it's blatantly unconstitutional
>this is a republican's fault

This is your brain on propaganda. You can't see the puppet master.

>>52362178

Desantis spent his last term securing elections and won by a fucking landslide. Other Republicans are suicidal if they don't do the same. Vote rigging is a nationwide problem.

>>52362186
Their reasoning is not consistent. Read what the judge wrote. Fiscal conservatism is fine. Just be consistent.

The part that makes me rage is the politicians and judges blocking the forgiveness had PPP loans forgiven.

>>52362217
They can secure the elections all they want. They won’t have the votes to win. The demographics aren’t there. Boomer neocons are dying off and young people vote overwhelming Democrat. The abortion shit and this aren’t going to win enough undecided voters over.

>>52362145
I agree but accelerationist tendencies as well as (((opportunistic attitude))) still hopes for free money. If /biz/ was serious it would live off of food stamps in section 8 with a 7 figure portfolio

>>52362237

All we are establishing is that your brain is fucked from propaganda and will not do anything except follow your scripting. You will hate the evil red team and you will hate the evil orange man because the TV said so and your boomer brain will do exactly that.

>>52362186
>>52362217
>reddit spacing
>checks out

>>52362278
That is true but not for Florida, Florida is going to be red for an entire generation now. Florida has become a refuge for conservative boomers and latinos. Even Miami votes Red now

>>52362311
That’s what you got out of what I wrote? I voted Republican across the board. It seems like you’re just whistling past the graveyard and refusing to acknowledge that the Republican Party will soon be non-viable.

>>52362101
that's correct. young people care about INFLATION, but the polls don't reflect it because they answer first about their student loans. well, fucking DUH, the problem with their loan isn't that they're in one, it's that they can't get out of one while paying for shit which is skyrocketing in price.
who the fuck ever got upset about BORROWING SIX FIGURES and paying it back in $1000-a-month increments during years where $1000 goes from "a paycheck" to "chump change?" absolutely nobody, not even minimum wage employees. YOU WON THAT. you already FUCKED the banks (on an individual basis anyway). you can defer student loans more than any other kind, practically endlessly, until you have substantial income.
a cash flow problem is never a leverage problem for a young person, it's the same in businesses: growth vs. value. growth companies don't give a fuck. it's always an expense issue and its always the established value companies that have a long debt schedule they have to figure out.
so students actually care about inflation, they just are totally blind to the idea that, in fact, they don't have to pay more for food and rent endlessly. they don't even know capitalism not only doesn't always do that, but that it constantly relieves that while the fed constantly makes it worse for them. they think it's baked in so they turn around and yell somewhere else.
but once they start getting some durable goods, saving up some money, building a family maybe, they'll change their tune. they'll realize they have something to defend, and what (inflation) and ((((who)))) to defend it against.
welcome to the right side of history, young guns.

>>52362268
PPP was authorized by Congress, including the forgiveness aspect. The president does not have the ability to unilaterally give out money.

>take out a loan
>pay it back with interest

This concept confuses and enrages the Millennial

>>52361813
Republican Texas judge struck it down after a MAGA plaintiff took it to court and claimed debt forgiveness is "unfair"
what's hilarious is that the same plaintiff had $50,000 in PPP loans forgiven

"debt forgiveness for me but not for thee!"

Good. I have 50K I need to pay back and I'm glad I won't be paying a dime of anyone else's loans too.

>>52361919
>how are these roasties supposed to pay their loans back without abortion?

>>52361976
>Hillary lied
>People died
>Obiden Lied
>Incels cried

>>52362058
/thread
death to commies

>>52362380

PPP loans were a sham, but big difference is from the start the plan was always to forgive them if certain conditions were met. Meanwhile student loan borrowers signed a paper that said they'd pay their loans back after getting out of school, and now they want to change the terms and shirk their obligations. That's not how it works and the two situations aren't really similar.

>>52362355

>concern trolling

faggot

>>52362355
>America will become a one party state
Yeah you’re a dumbass.

Also, imagine falling for red team blue team in the current year.

>>52362480

Correct. The illusion of choice is what's important. It already is a one party state but they have to keep normies thinking that they have some choice.

>>52362473
If the midterms didn’t open your eyes, I don’t know what will. This should’ve been a slam dunk for Republicans, and they barely gained any ground. Keep your head in the sand and continue to lose elections.

>>52362480
Currently the pro israel party is in charge

>>52362480
Tell me how Republicans will have enough votes to win the presidency over the next few years. Demographics simply aren’t there. Sounds like you refuse to acknowledge basic data.

>>52361799
There are better ways to help people struggling with student loan debt than stealing from the middle and working classes.

>>52362363
I get that the approvals and legal standing for the loans are different, but when you look at a guy like Republican Vern Buchanan who had $2.3 million in PPP loans forgiven say $20k in student loan forgiveness is wrong it makes you want to find blueprints for a guillotine.
Either way between the abortion shit and student loan forgiveness the Republicans have done a good job of enraging 30-40 million Americans. The red wave that didn’t happen this week is only going to get weaker. If your party can’t take meaningful power in Congress when inflation is 8% and the presidents approval rating is in the 40% range, you are in serious trouble.

>>52362102
the neocons are all gone, you are literally hallucinating. they were liberals that left the democrat party for reasons just like this: "nothing ever gets done, when it does its not done right, we can just be republicans and still push part of our agenda because look they will defend x y and z too."
start reading, fag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Strauss

>Demotards getting fucked by their own people again, right after the midterms

Thanks for the votes! No refunds

>>52362570
>muh demographics
who's racist now? hahahaah

>>52362527

I see you're too stupid to understand what I'm saying. Stop replying to me, dipshit.

>>52362480
He's a dumbass for using future tense.

>>52361892
>Republican judges shut it down and called it unconstitutional.
republican judge challenged it, but higher courts stayed their decision until a day after midterms.
nice try though.

>>52361799
AHAHAHAHHAAAH
finally some good news

>>52362623
You still haven’t acknowledged a single point that I’ve made. Tell me how Republicans will win the presidency again when GOP voters are dying and millennials and below continue to vote Democrat overwhelmingly. There’s no signs of them shifting conservative as they get older, either.

>>52362621

Yeah the other guy is off base. Hispanics aren't blacks. They can be assimilated into traditional conservative politics. The Irish and Italians were both Democrat groups until they assimilated too. Blacks are unique in that they're utter fucking handout loving retards who are willing to live in perpetual muck and rot as long as you feed them.

>>52362702

>shill
>shill
>shill
>shill

>>52361799
>>52361813
Just stop paying l m a o. It really is that easy.

>>52362702

The young have always been leftists, this isn't a new phenomenon at all. They get conservative as they age. This is a retarded argument.

>>52362621
Don't forget Florida becoming absurdly red. This sort of talk has been going on for a very long time.

I definitely see a lot of political realignment coming, but that's it. The real problems are that democracy is an abysmal system, and that the GOP (at the federal level) only pretends to be an opppsition party.

>>52362742
>The real problems are that democracy is an abysmal system
Fuck off.

>>52362729
They not shifting conservative as they age, as I just said. Millennials and below aren’t like prior generations. Boomers and Gen X shifted conservative because they had built a good nest egg as they approach late 30s and 40s. That’s simply not the case now.

>>52362774

You're a moron. The trend has never, ever stopped. Millenials are already scratching their heads at the shit Gen Zers do. By definition, older people want to conserve the life they've always known. Gen X is not rich at all and they're already conservative. These were the people who were radically degenerate in the 90's.

>>52362772

Democracy as it was built in the US is severely outdated now that the population is nonwhite.

>>52362592
The neocons aren't gone, they've just been laying low since Trump hijacked the GOP. They want the Democrats to get rid of Trump for them so they can once again regain power over the GOP.

>>52362808
And yet millennials—even the oldest ones—still vote overwhelmingly Democrat. Try again.

>>52362774
brainwashed.
>Boomers and Gen X shifted conservative because they had built a good nest egg as they approach late 30s and 40s.
no, they become conservative because they had to get a job and become racist.
zoomers will get there too.
reneging on free $10k is gonna piss off the kids.
really going to put them at odds with their teachings of democracy in high school.

>>52362844
maybe you should take a look at the midterm results before talking.

>>52362844

No they don't.

>>52362772
Democracy is a joke in non-white countries like JewSA and euROPE.

>>52362824
>Freemason hand signal

>>52362914
>countries like Europe

>>52362844
>>52362910

Also, in case you didn't notice, the national popular vote was R+6, even if Republicans didn't manage to retake the Senate (due to a very unfriendly number of seats to defend this cycle).

>>52362774

Millennial are ages 26-41. They still lean a bit left but exit polls show they're pretty nearly split D vs R.

>>52361892
>the president can just spend money without congress approval
lmao, lol even
they knew it wasn't legal, so he tried to do it under the guise of "covid relief" executive order (still outside what congress agreed to)

>>52361799
No refunds.

>>52362927
...yh

>>52362702
considering that shitskins vote overwhelmingly democrat, that will just mean the kikes have imported enough shitskins to where the tipping point of third world status is reached and collapse will soon follow. Oh, well. Who cares at that point?

>>52361799
Good.

>>52362772
It's absolutely retarded on every level.

everyone becomes a staunch fiscal conservative when someone else is getting gibs. "m-muh balanced federal budget! the debt ceiling!" crabs in a bucket.

but continue to stay silent about the checks to israel and ukraine, bids for fighter jets that will never be built, corporate gibs for "green energy initiatives," or any of the other billions/trillions of tax dollars that get wasted on stupid shit every year.

BTW, your tax dollars are the source of federal student loans in the first place. as a staunch fiscal conservative, I am sure you've been petitioning your senator about that.

>>52362820
Democracy with a predominantly white voterbase gave us Wilson and FDR. Wilson was elected by a white male voterbase.

It's only even remotely passable as a system with extremely severe restrictions on who can vote. Even then it's stupid.

>>52363313

Correct. As demonstrated here you can completely shift the vote just by emotionally manipulating the horde of howling retards that want free shit.

I can spend hundreds of hours understanding every proposition and candidate and vote intelligently. DaQueesha can spend 10 seconds voting blue on the entire form for dem programs. And our votes count exactly the same.

Democracy is a terrible system when you have such a wide variation in population.

>>52363282
Im a fiscal conservative and im mad about all of it, so stfu faggot

>>52361799
No it isn't. It's been appealed, and nearly every other court has ruled that these challenges lack standing. This ruling will be overturned, mark my words. It was also a Trump appointed judge, so not surprising.

I don't mean to split hairs when we broadly agree, but it's terrible when you have a homogeneous population as well, just slightly less so.

I mean, at the point where only European males who own property and pay more into the system than they pay out can vote, you're basically just trying to work around the shittiness inherent to democracy. And even under those circumstances, I'm not convinced that you'll do more than delay the decline. Again, our absolute worst Presidents (Lincoln, Wilson, FDR) were elected with demographics that resemble closely what I imagine you would want.

>>52363486
Meant for >>52363387

>>52363486

It was outdated as soon as the US became an empire. As a small collection of colonies it made sense.

>>52363282
>Mr Government, we need you to loan tax dollars back to citizens (with interest) so they can continue to pay our ever-increasing tuition.
>Oh, that endowment fund? Just saving that for a rainy day, don't worry about it.
>Oh, the new professor? His department had to get a grant to pay his salary (we took half).
>Oh, the new building? That was paid for by a donor.
>Oh, the new 100,000 person capacity football stadium? That was paid for by issuing bonds.

Also, what's to stop the Biden administration from ignoring the court and just going through with the forgiveness anyways?
>inb4 impeachment
Will NEVER happen. Even with a narrow House majority, there likely wouldn't be enough votes. And the Senate wouldn't be able to convict him, just like they weren't able to convict Trump. Fuck this judge! Just do it!

>>52363535
I'd argue the US became an empire in large part because of democracy. The Wilson administration did a lot to make that happen. The American people had non-interventionist instincts for a very long time. But "spred muh liburl dumucrucy" became a big rallying cry.

I'll add that any system can work if you're dealing with a small enough pollity.

Bidensisters...

>>52363634
I cant wait for this to destroy property values in LA

>>52363634

fucking insanity

>>52362380
PPP loans/grants were codified into law by Congress, student loan forgiveness was wished up by a dementia patient in a desperate bid to buy votes. a president cannot discharge debt by adding it to the tax burden, under the constitution only Congress has the power to tax

>>52361799
Don't you mean... it's not over?

>>52363634
Not like this!
Not like this!

>>52362058
Nevermind that multiple government officials received millions in PPP forgiveness. I assume you’re talking about them as well?

>>52361830
They won't learn.

>>52361813
It’s republicans who shut it down though like always. Nice attempt to change facts, people are more aware than you pretend.

>>52363972
Apples and oranges. PPP loans were always meant to be forgiven. If you're talking about specific people who took out fraudulent PPP loans, that's a different conversation (and yes, they should have to pay the money back).

>>52363882
Simple as. The retarded delusional ilk will buy the same story during the next election cycle.

>>52362076
No it means biden proposed a plan to forgive debt to students in need, and republicans like always took the money away from it to give to their criminal buddies. We all know the truth, it’s why the red wave never happened, and why next election will be a blow out, people are very aware which party is screwing them over the hardest while taking as much as they can from the system and it ain’t the democrats. Republicans days of power are numbered.

>>52364194
Like the last two years of complete Democrat domination in the house, senate, and executive branch oozed power. Get real. You are being grifted. You’re the sheep they laugh about behind close doors. The dreamer. You are nothing but cattle to them. If they told you to go out and kill your political rivals for X reason, you probably wouldn’t hesitate. Have fun in the gulag you wishful simp.

>>52361799
Election is over

>>52362268
That’s because republicans are always okay with social welfare so long as it’s not benefitting common people. If Biden’s plan forgave student debt but provided a lions share amount of huge tax breaks to multinational business syndicates, republicans would have been all over it.
The Republican Party does not want any one but themselves and their criminal buddies to get government assistance. It’s get time we start planning the side dish when we eat them all.

>>52363282
I wouldn't even mind the smug retardation republicans are projecting over this issue if they actually stuck to fiscal conservative ideals. If we as a country are just pissing money away at everything the least we could do is piss some that has a positive direct impact on citizen's lives and who have a stimulatory effect on the economy

Student loan forgiveness without any actual lowering of tuition cost is the most regressive policy proposal ever and the fact that it passed without much scrutiny, by dems no less, is a sign of the times.
Not actually fixing the problem (or even attempting to do so) while subsiding lifetime high earners sure is a double whammy.

>>52364194
That the Republicans are crooked doesn't make the Democrats less crooked. "Students in need", fuck outta here. A one time handout that won't cover any substantial amount of debt doesn't help anyone in need. It's the shittiest, most obvious lie, and wouldn't make a difference even if it wasn't a lie.

>>52363282

We don't stay silent about that you fucking retard. The axiom is simple: cut taxes, cut the budget. That means everything. Shut the fuck up with your pilpul and strawmen. We don't like big fat state colluding corporations either. We want to limit it all across the board as it's gone unchecked and corrupt.

>>52363387

It's very disheartening. And now there's this stupid idea that every vote is valuable and everyone needs to vote regardless of ignorance level. As if some homeless retard who knows literally nothing and has paid absolutely no attention has the same quality of vote as someone who studies the state and society avidly.

You should only qualify to vote if you have a net worth of $10K. It's so small, and yet it immediately weeds out all of the trash across the board without going after any particular gender/race/subgroup. It would knock out like 30% of the worst quality of voter that exists out there.

anyone who still believes in representative democracy and voting is a retard.

>>52361960
>meaningless
something that will actually help people, even with as small as it is, is meaningless?

>>52364268
“Complete democrat domination”
Has no idea how are government and congress runs, nor about majority vs super majority. Read a book you don’t have to be this ignorant of government processes, that’s your choice to stay that way if you are. If democrats had power to ram things through congress they would have, unfortunately they did not, but they will by next election I’m sure. Go regulate womens bodies, or remove books from classrooms like a good little right winger. One day you’ll wake up and see it’s the poor vs the rich and nothing else I hope.

>>52364489

>they will by next election I'm sure

Biden is still President, and we are only just starting the economic pain. This is going to be a long winded bleedout on a Congressional level even if they manage to hang on to the Presidency.

>>52364064
>to change facts
>aware
Aware of you trying to get banks a bailout because you're a faggot who won't pay your debt when everyone else did? Damn that sucks. Did you know most millennials voted for the republican party because they're sick of your fucking shit?

>>52362380
>shit that bails out people who didn't pay their loans is unfair to the people who did
Yes, faggot. The world doesn't revolve around you, you're not a special boy deserving of special attention. Give me 10k or tongue my ballsack.

>>52364365
How does 20,000 dollars of debt relief to people who received pell grants (meaning they are at poverty levels of income) not make a difference to them? These are the people being shafted while Ukraine gets bipartisan support of billions.

>>52364121
Orange chud should just say he'll write the debt off and cuck the banks (which are public anyway why do public banks need to suck american blood huh?).

>>52361965
Yeah, good cop bad cop. Now that it’s blocked the administration can use it in ad campaigns but never deliver and R’s can say they did something while their base gets fucked.

>>52364106
So they’re just gatekeeping, got it. Never mind investing in young adults and education, the literal future of the country, better send billions to Ukraine and PPP forgiveness for actual millionaires!

>>52362186
>It's your constitutional right to be saddled with crippling debt owned by Jewish bankers for the privilege of educating yourself further than what the dreadful public school system provides

Amerislobs everyone

>>52362178
>Solid red states are turning purple and swing states are turning blue.
Because of spics, nothing else.

>>52362468
>>52363882
>>52364543
>no see it's ok when MY loan gets forgiven cuz...
kys

>>52362774
Millennials aren't conservative because they have no money. Used to be generations became small gov as they started to build wealth. Now the younger generations have no wealth so they don't pivot.

>>52364565
Call me whatever but you need Congress to do loan forgiveness. You are screaming into the void.

>>52364543
>When everyone else did!!1!1!
Must be nice to grow up in the 70’s when student loans were laughable after graduation and the job market for graduates was the greatest in history.

Republicans took 20k from me, I will be voting democrat every single election for the rest of my life.

>>52364660

He's not really correct. Formerly purple states like Ohio/Florida are now solid red, and formerly blue states like Wisconsin/Michigan/Pennsylvania are now purple battlegrounds.

Republicans have only lost Arizona/Georgia to purpledom. And nationally speaking, the country has been shifting Republican. Democrats have needed all time levels of 99% turnout in sympathetic precincts to hang on in some of these states, like Michigan. That's not a viable long term strategy, they aren't creating any new voters.

>>52364543
Millennials overwhelmingly voted democratic this election lol. Get off info wars and read actual news with facts not hyperbole. The young voters this election are being called the blue wall that interrupted a supposed red wave. Next group to vote next election will do same, progress is coming, cats out the bag, sorry boomer.

>>52362705
Kill yourself, spic. The Italians and Irish didn't have handouts like you.
>Medicaid
>EBT
>Section 8
You're the same as niggers. You don't work and refuse to learn English, you just collect and smoke weed. KILL YOURSELF.

>>52364711
Frankly this shit is subterfuge, the real reason these states are turning is because their tired of seeing their sons castrated by the public school system, which became literal in recent years

>>52364762

I mean, a big part of it is that middle American states don't give a shit about weird coastal idpol politics. They're working class, traditional people and Dems have lost the traditional blue dog union voter.

>>52364747

I'm not a spic, dumbfuck. It's a readily observable phenomenon. Dems market themselves as the immigrant party and always enjoy the 1st and 2nd generation's support. But as one assimilates and identifies more as American they drift rightward.

>>52364744

No they did not: >>52362910
>>52362979

Older Millenials are basically the same as the Gen X vote. And overall, this was an R+6 national vote, which is still considered a big R victory. The Senate didn't go favorably because Republicans were defending 2x as many seats. 2024 is looking a lot more hostile for D prospects as it will be their turn to defend 2x the seats.

both sides hate you and want to see you physically, mentally, financially, and spiritually enslaved. they are conspiring to steal your tax dollars and give it away to big jewish corporations and lazy niggers, whether it's business bailouts and "job creator" tax cut gibs, or section 8 housing and food stamps. neither side has ever balanced a budget. both sides want to truck in millions of illegal and legal (H1-B and H2-A) brown niggermonkey slaves provide cheap labor to businesses, with the express goal of undercutting american wages. every legislative action on the topic of healthcare and education has been a watered down failure, ultimately fixing nothing. i would say they want to murder you, but it's far more profitable to be strung along and tortured for 80 consecutive years.

>>52364747
Delusional. Mexicans will call themselves "white Americans" in 20 years like every other brown mongrel that's been coming here for 150 years

>>52364881
problem?

>>52362910
How can you not read that chart?
18 - 29 vote democrat 63%
This is why republicans are unfit to run the country they can’t even read 2nd grade level bar graphs.

>>52361892
Democrats had full majority in both House and Senate the last 2 YEARS, and could have if they wanted drafted and passed a proper bill for student debt relief but instead Joe Biden like an absolute retard did an executive order to authorize himself a half trillion dollars guaranteeing this would never pass a lawsuit.

Nice try though faggot

>>52362621
God bless America
T. Euro

>>52364932

18-29 is mostly Gen Z you fucking retard. It's 2022 now, sweetheart.

>>52364881
I know they will. But they won't be. And the country will continue to get even gayer and shittier, with more handouts.
If we can't kick them out, I want spics to be regulated to VR pods for life. God bless that kike Mark Zuckerberg

Yeah, there was a time limit on applying. I got mine in as soon as it opened. Imagine turning down 20k cash out of laziness

>>52364641
Again, if you took out a loan, simply pay it back. If you want to talk about education being more affordable like it is in certain other countries, that's also a different conversation.

>>52361922
Exactly. There's a reason he was a 30 year Senator, 8 year VP, and now president. Very few politicians as successful as him in US history.

>>52365618
>if you took out a loan, simply pay it back.
Then how are people supposed to become woke social justice warriors with irrelevant to the world majors?

>>52362278
>zoomers vote democrat
Lol
Lmao
>demographics
Arizona and Texas spics just flipped red. These are wetback Mexicans, the bluest of the bunch, not Cubans or Salvadorans fleeing from socialist totalitarians.totalitarian.
Now here's your penny, ShlomoBlue

>>52364489
>we have control over the entire government but can't do anything because of the systemically excluded rethuglicans!!!
Pathetic bro just pathetic

>have some money, I know life is hard jack
>just be sure to vote for the good blue guys
>whoops would you look at that there was a fascist judge out there, yeah sorry chum there's no money
>but be sure to vote for me next time

>>52364672
>all those years in expensive edumacation and you couldn't think to take out a PPP loan to pay off your student debt

>>52361892
>>52361976
>>52361998
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>>52365881

LMFAOOOO HAHAHAHAHAHA PAY OFF THOSE GENDER STUDIES DEGREES BOIS PAYMENT PAUSE ENDS IN 2 MONTHS HAHAHA NO HOME OWNERSHIP FOR YOU BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH PAY IT BACK PAY IT BACK LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLL

>>52363282
nobody wants their money going towards that globohomo shit either. We want the money printing to stop.

>>52364699
Based

>>52364699
you got yourself into that kind of debt through your own terrible choices. Did you think any old degree would bring you money??

>>52364641
Dont bother. Hes a fucking retard.

>>52365297
kek. youre not getting $20k either, retard.

>>52364711
Thank god.

>>52362058
If only our government said that to all the companies it's bailed out.

>>52364477
It doesn't help anyone on average because it raises the debt burden on all of the country while telling the corrupt and bloated education industry that they can charge even more next time.
The only way to fix things is to stop subsidizing loans and giving grants without strict limitations on their use.

>>52362380
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX

>>52364871
Finally someone with a brain

>>52364871

>The problem is the government

That is correct. So vote for anyone who will do even the least to downsize or limit it. Even if they still hate you. You know you really can vote people in and then scrutinize their actions while in office...

>>52364871
>>52362824

>>52364194
And your life will still suck because you’re a delusional npc.

>>52361799
Don't worry there is still a fool-proof way of ending student debt going forward:
>Step 1: Don't issue student loans

Even in europe, even in wondrous "socialist" paradise scandinavia people take on 100.000 EUR on student debt to achieve their dream of becoming pilots. This continuously escalated as fuel prices, insurance and the overall syllabus all increased the cost from about 60000 almost 2 decades ago. Meanwhile there are no shortages of people willing to sell their soul to do this job, while the job opportunities are scarce. 50 jobs for 3000 applicants, something like that. Multiple day assessment centers that you won't even be invited to unless you know the right people. It got so bad you had so-called "pay to fly" schemes. New graduates without a job were not only working for free, they were giving their employer (officially called the training organisation) 500 EUR/hour or more to work at an airline until they get experience (measured in flight hours). (Idea for Jannies maybe? Have them pay for the privilege?)

Now ask yourself: How are they affording that? First you take on 100k of debt fresh out of school and then you spend even more on "training" which is actually work. The answer is somewhere between daddy's credit card and banks giving loans like it's candy.

Was this fixed overnight? No, over time people realize that it's a shitty job choice that literally only rich kids could afford to lose money on. Suddenly you had the same employers that previously were getting paid for the privilege of hiring you paying for your training. Nearly all reputable airlines have some sort of agreement where they front the cost of training in return for your willingness to work for them.

IMHO thats how it should be. Employers who want a workforce need to pay for that training. In the meantime secure your jobmarket so the rest of the world doesn't fuck up your cheap labor supply.

>>52362278
I walked in to the voting booth and selected R for everything and voted against every proposition. Every zoomer ik did the same.
T. 23 year old zoomy

>>52364934
>California
>May Issue
In practice it was impossible to get a permit for concealed carry in California until the recent Supreme Court ruling. Even if the law stated otherwise.

>>52363482
>appeal
this, seems like it's still g2g. sure hope so.

>>52361976
Seething lol.

PAY IT BACK

How do I declare myself a Bank so I can get bailed out like they do?

>>52361799
Have fun collecting any debts from me with no jobs. Kek. Thanks for the tax payer's money, suckers.

>>52366436
Payments on your women's studies degree resume in 2 months :)

>>52366373
I make 90k/yr as a Cloud Sysadmin and only took out 19k. The republicans took 20k from me. I will be showing up to every election and voting downticket Dem for the rest of my life.

>>52368766
>dems increase taxes
>you pay $500k more over your lifetime
thanks for the tax dollars anon!

>>52368926
I can smell the seething tradie wagie in your posts. Have fun with the crippling medical bills youll endure after years of hard labor while I coast to an early retirement. Still voting Dem though :^)

>>52362583

How does forgiving loans that were given out years ago take from the middle and working class you fucking brainlet

>>52362808

You're in denial.

>>52361892
you dumb fuck... haven't you realized yet that the whole thing is scripted?

>>52363282

This.

>>52366488
So start a fucking business retard. Everyone is tired of your whiney commie shit. The fucking government shut down businesses and many businesses needed that to survive and reopen. They could have just stayed the fuck out of everything and businesses would be happy. Now go make my coffee and get ready to work some overtime to pay your bill. You have less than two months left.

>>52363634
>act homeless to get free rooms and save money

>hotel books all vacant rooms for $1 for the night so they always are at full capacity

>>52362726
Can’t they hit your credit? I want a house eventually.

>>52363387
>Democracy is a terrible system when you have such a wide variation in population.
Which is why the founders limited it. The assumption being that white land owners would be intelligent enough for politics. Owning land for everyone isnt going to be easy now but can at least be land or positive net worth. That would help fix out most of the retards. And can make a mortgage count as liability not positive net worth.

>>52368762
You know it's gonna get extended again. They already said last time that they won't resume student loan payments until there's some type of forgiveness in place.

college students got scammed again

>>52369611
the person you are replying to would probably say something retarded, like taxes

but the correct answer is inflation

>>52364744
Jesus, this is like someone reading off a CNN teleprompter

>>52363882
>discharge debt by adding it to the tax burden
nothing about loan forgiveness has anything to do with taxes

>>52370553
tbqh if you went to college and didn't come out with a 6 figure career, then yes you got scammed

Welcome to US politics thanks you for playing.
Congratulations on your marketing degree. That will be $150,000 plus interest plus tip.

>>52364064
>control the presidency and congress
>do absolutely nothing to make it legal so a judge can easily just say no
Hmmm....

>>52371000
Republican judge is merely pissed about the midterms imo. This is the result. I will be voting a straight (D).

>>52361892
They'll strike down the repayment for being unconstitutional, but never the act that made it non-dischargable in bankruptcy in the first place

>>52369951
what happens in 2 months?

>Silly goy that money is going to Ukraine, Israel, and the 2.5 million illegals that invaded the country this year. Did you really think we would help out American citizens?

>>52371549
Qanon and the dark patriots take over.

>>52364744
Go back
>>52368964
People use smileys with a nose should be taken out back and brutally murdered

>>52361799
>Politician goes back on promise days after getting votes
How is this /biz/ newsworthy? Even other democrats mentioned offhand there was no way this was going to go through, but they pushed it for ez votes.
Not even really a partisan thing, this is just *THE* standard political move of all political moves. It's like calling water wet.

>>52361892
why didnt they do it before the election then, because dems knew it wouldnt go through... so they either tricked you or played stupid. eitherway you got getted

Get owned faggots

>>52364677
Conservatism is genetic. Plenty of broke republicans living without running water in Kentucky and Tennessee. Plenty of wealthy white shitlibs in Massachusetts who just voted to raise their own taxes

>>52362705
>Hispanics aren't blacks.

Bullshit.

>>52371753
This, nothing can stop what is coming in 336 hours.

>>52362399
when the tides turn and trad life is the new progressive movement, these witches will be screaming in the streets and getting beaten by immigrants in care homes with no one to turn to, thats what they want and voted for and thats what they will both get and deserve.

I’m sure all you based fiscal conservatives returned your stimulus back to the gov :^)

>>52362359

Sam carter is my waifu

>>52372417
TWOOOO WEEEKS

What in the actual fuck is wrong with conservatives

>>52373165
Exactly, vote blue save a jew!

Why do republitards ITT keep calling forgiveness unconstitutional, what's unconstitutional about it? None of these businesses have a right to live off of interest rate gibs for eternity like a fucking parasite. Fuck off.

>>52374134
so let them die retard
don't further entrench their shitty eternal gibs by having gubment pay you to pay them absurd rates

>>52362824
>child molesting brainlet that didn't understand time preference theory
lmao

OH ZOOOMIIIIIES
TIME TO PAY YOUR DENBTS LIKE AN ADULT

>>52373165
>What in the actual fuck is wrong with conservatives
Tuition is expensive due to government student loans.
Yet you retards support it. What the fuck is wrong with YOU?

>>52362380
this is a basic cheerleaders outfit these days godDAMN

the ride never ends

>>52374213
i will NEVER pay back my 12k student loans

>>52361799
obviously, it's after midterms already

but 2024 for sure, democrat gender-neutral siblings!

The entire reason tuition is so expensive in the first place is because the government has been providing these loans.

Get government out of higher education entirely and the cost will radically decrease.
Leftists don't want this though, they just want something to complain about.

>>52374213
>boomies have never paid a cent back to what they owed to the greatest generation.
Kinda based though, gotta respect the hustle of trying convincing the younger generations.

>>52374346
This is as retarded as saying that taking away government subsidies to farmers will lower food prices.

>>52374346
Ban foreign students and see how fast prices drop. The US educates half the worlds elites kids.

>>52374546
this is completely fucking different you absolute retard
farm subsidies are paid to farmers to grow MORE food, pushing down prices

student loans are given to students to artificially bid up the demand for college degrees, raising their price

It's as simple as fuck and it's mind boggling why nobody is pointing this out.
Why do you think tuition used to be so cheap before the 80s and 90s?

>>52374637
But you're talking about gubment loans, so private lenders will still be handing out loans, except only the free mason/Rothschilds of the world will get those loans, so you end getting india tier caste system in western education.

>>52362077
>they know they are fucked in the next election
Yeah, just like they were so fucked in the last 3.

How fucking delusional do you have to be to keep saying this shit?

>>52374737
>But you're talking about gubment loans,
Almost all of it is government loans you absolute fucking retard. It ALWAYS was government loans.
Holy fuck this country is so doomed. Most people unironically think student loans come from evil greedy bankers or something.

https://www.forbes.com/advisor/student-loans/average-student-loan-statistics/
>Federal student loans make up the vast majority of American education debt—about 92% of all outstanding student loans is federal debt. The federal student loan portfolio currently totals more than $1.6 trillion, owed by about 43 million borrowers.

>xcept only the free mason/Rothschilds of the world will get those loans
It's incredible how brainwashed you people are. If the price of college drops dramatically, the vast majority of people wouldn't even need to take on loans, they would work summer jobs or whatever to pay for their college. This is the way it used to work before the government started propping up higher "education" for the own benefit and making all of these useless degrees.

>so you end getting india tier caste system in western education.
We already have this thanks to the system you leftist cuckolds created.

>>52374737

>>52374801
Most student loans are by the feds because private companies can't compete, that would change under what you propose. These companies would obviously use harsher collection and accreditation practices since they'd have virtually no oversight.

No point in "debating" you republitards further though since you basically admitted you want it to remain a class-based caste system. That solves your question as to why leftist don't want it, retard. We're antifascism.

>>52374346
it's predatory lending at its worst. Sadly it preys on the best and brightest, especially those who don't have their parents paying their tuition.

>>52374914
You have to be 18 to post here.

>>52374914
>Most student loans are by the feds because private companies can't compete,
Yes, that's exactly my point. The cost has skyrocketed so much due to government providing these loans to the point that it's a bad business decision for private lenders to lend students money they won't be able to pay back.

How do you see the government creating a massive artificial increase in demand and think that it would have zero affect on prices? Are you retarded?
Do you really think some overpaid marxist cunt talking to you in a big room should cost 80 thousand fucking dollars?

>These companies would obviously use harsher collection and accreditation practices
If it were fully private, you could actually declare bankruptcy. Also most people would be more reluctant to take these loans if the terms were harsher.
More people would pay out of pocket for their tuition, which would be easier because it would be a lot cheaper.

>No point in "debating" you republitards
I'm not a republican, I'm a Libertarian.
You people are in a religious cult at this point. Even the most basic of logic is lost on you and you will continue destroying the country and working against your own economic interests. Kill yourself.

>remain a class-based caste system.
LMAO this is literally what you want

>We're antifascism.
You ARE a fascist. Fascism developed from syndicalism which is a socialist movement. You have way more in common with them than us.

>>52374982
The dude is legit saying the government not providing student loans is fascism.

>>52361892

babby's first Democratic election

>surely these millionaires wouldn't promise me something they knew they had no ability or intention to deliver, for literally exactly as long it took to get my vote in the box!

lol i just remembered all the hours I spent knocking on doors for Obama, good times

>>52361799
test. ftx

>>52371774
seethe

>>52375001
>us

>>52361892
Dumb monkey nigger lover thinks there are teams in the government just like niggerball on the tv, get played

>>52362384
Goyim mentality

>>52362058
Why don't you cool it with the anti-semitic remarks?

>>52375049
>he actually committed activism
Genuinely sorry you had that experience, anon. I hope it at least taught you not to be someone's pawn.

>>52376435

yeah lol, it was extremely instructive

we built up Obama For America as an independent grassroots org, it raised a huge amount of money, registered millions of voters, knocked on millions of doors, got people out to vote etc. It was supposed to be grassroots leverage against corporate Dem power

pretty much the day after the election, they turned the whole thing over to the DNC.

>>52361799
what strange timing! must be a coincidence!

>>52362621
white guilt from over socialization

>>52364677
This. You have to own a house first to be able to start getting mad about taxes being too high and niggers on your property. Barely any millennials have reached the point of owning a home

>>52365001
Same because seeing masses of short fat brown beaners in real life is demoralizing as fuck