/biz/ - Business & Finance

No. He should block any account that pulls advertising.

Citation needed to literally everything you said.

It was telling that the content moderation stayed the same yet the glowies were flooding the platform with nigger. Should sue the govt

You fucked the math up retard, because ANYONE can get checkmarked now, so its more like 15% of 2 billion people. Do he math jewnigger

>>52234673
Www.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Felon-musk-hints-at-8-monthly-subscription-for-twitters-verified-users-11667316378

That post kinda sounds like how Trump tweets. I like it.

yeah but he let kanye drops some bombs before it all collapsed. Honestly impressed with birdwatch right now. He's gonna axe that shit if it contexts him more often

>>52234702

why would a literal who give a fuck about a blue check mark?

>>52234702
If you assume 10 million people will buy blue checkmarks that would be a very generous prediction. Which would still only cover 1-2% of his expenses

>>52234716
None of your claims are in there

this is insane i cant believe he bought twit for 44 bil and completely bombed it. im curious to see how this plays out.

>>52234769
That would be $960m, which is 16% of his expenses

>content moderation

what's this new buzzword they're trying to push?

>>52234673
Learn to Google.

>>52234944
it means you cant say the chosen people are not chosen, or that anyone else is chosen

>>52234951
He literally just made up a bunch of numbers though

>inflate value with bots and pajeets
>retard takes the bait
>WAAAAAAAH
hahahhahaha

>>52234642
They made him buy it to bankrupt him. For a billionaire he's fucking retarded.

>>52234642
> saving $750mil/year
Thats enough to boost them to profitability lmao, their netloss in 2021 was 221 million
Where did you armchair corporate finance fags come from anyway?

>>52234660
anthesis of the alleged goal, furthermore really bad optics

>>52234716
>Farticles
>Felon Musk
lawl

>>52234944
Why doesn't elon just just poach 4chan jannies?

>>52234729

Because 99.99% of tweets are worthless. The blue checkmark gives the illusion that there is a real voice behind the (still worthless) tweet.

>>52234642
advertisers are unprincipled shekel chasers. they won't leave.

>>52234944
It used to mean that you were not allowed to criticize certain groups and have opinions that strays from the main stream school of thought. With Musk in charge it's only the former but not the latter

>>52234642
You're telling me that the world's richest man decided to just up and buy fucking Twitter of all companies with absolutely no plan on how to make it profitable in the next 5 to 10 years? I'm sure the wolves of wall street of this board who made $12 on butt corns this quarter know he's totally boned though.

And inb4 simp - frigg off I've disliked the elongated muskrat for years

>>52235046

right... but only people who want to be seen as "official" would care. The vast majority of users (like me) won't.

>>52235068

I bet he’ll ban things like anti-chinese bugmen posts in the near future, mark my words

>>52235091
>world's richest man
You dont actually believe that, do you

>>52235091
You're retarded if you think the DARPA brainiacs behind Tesla and SpaceX give a fuck about Twitter. Twitter is an Obama/Trump-era (two attention whores) artefact.

Dude, he's gonna get fucked by California law requiring 60 day notice of mass layoffs. It's a $500/day per employee fine. Additionally, employees laid off without notice must be paid their salary for that time, and any medical expenses during that period just be entirely covered by the company.

The fine alone is over $100,000,000: blue checkmark fee doesn't even get close to that. Now, you have to pay those people, which is about $70,000,000. Then you have any medical expenses that pop up.

On top of this, advertisers are starting to fuck off, and Tesla stock is reacting accordingly. According to the terms of the loan Musky took out, he could be required to put up more of his Tesla stock as collateral if things keep going this way, which would only accelerate the issue.

tldr; Elon screwed Elon.

>>52235091
>world's richest man
he might be worlds poorest man rn, poor people do dumb shit

>>52234817
>44 bil
A small price to buy back free speech

>>52234673
It came to him in his tranny dreams.

>>52234642
You mean we can finally get a nearly ad-free Twitter experience? Sounds nice, for once.

>>52235122
>like me
There are a huge number of people on 4chan who would pay for a twitter pass for the lels, we know you say you wouldn't because you're one of the leftoids who have been seething for the past few weeks. Your time is over.

>>52234660
This would be so based there is no way.
In fact? A corporate entity? That's $20,000/m per million followers.

>>52234979
Optics doesn't matter. But instead he should just let fake accounts stay up. We will see what tranny Inc. has to say when people are using their name to shitpost.

>>52234642
Is this the official laugh at Elon thread? I love seeing this faggot crash and burn

>>52235272

why the fuck would a casual user buy a checkmark? I literally only use twitter to floow a couple people who I think have good insight into the market. I don't give a fuck if they have a checkmark.

>>52234642
he pushed for the tech guys to reduce infrastructure cost significantly

twitter mainly runs on expensive cloud services on googles farms
if they migrate to conventional metal farms they could save after initial investment alot of money.

might look bad now but after some tough cuts it could become sustainable

>>52235296
I havent used twitter in years and I'd buy one to shitpost. Make my Twitter handle PantsShitter @shitpants or something

>>52235179
>moves twitter headquarters to texas
>republicans give him asylum
>refuses to pay california

>>52235322
ok Elon, thanks for sharing

>>52234729
Need one in order to trend.

>>52235296
His other idea is even more ridiculous. Charging a fee to let you DM celebrities. Only psychos would use this service which is useless anyway because you can't force a celeb to read your message, and they'll just leave the site because it'll become unusable.

>>52234769
>If you assume 10 million people will buy blue checkmarks that would be a very generous prediction. Which would still only cover 1-2% of his expenses

I get such a headache now reading /biz/

>>52235261
the fuck are you talking about nigger? I never saw a single ad on twitter

>>52235322

you don't need a checkmark to do that

>>52234642
I don't think he really wanted to buy twitter

>>52236012
There's a theory that he only suggested the deal as an excuse to cash out some Tesla stock without spooking the market, but he didn't realise backing out after signing would be impossible.

>>52235048
>>52235091

He should make it cost 8 dollars for a posting account. It’s a low tax for the price of freedom.

>>52236136

>1 billion

$8/month * 12 months = $96/year

1,000,000 subscribers * $96 = $96,000,000

>>52234930
A check mark is $8 not $96 fucking 75 iq Somalian nigger

>>52236218
Bro you're talking about Netflix noone is going to pay to use visible 4chan

>>52236270
>8$ a month
8x12 is what dipshit?

>>52235177
Twitter has had a huge impact on our society.
Twitter has helped shape the national conversation since Trump.
Twitter is why individuals and companies are afraid of online mobs.
Twitter is why gangs of losers have social power like they never had before, or will have again.

Why do pols go along with 37 genders? Twitter.
Why don't people speak out about trans women in sports? Twitter.
Etc.

If you have a name, and the twitter mob goes after you, you could be "cancelled" in real life.

>>52234642
how do i short twitter? robinhood doesnt have it listed for some reason

>>52236270

10,000,000 subscribers * $96/year = $960,000,000

so he would need roughly 50,000,000 annual subscribers to break even without ad support.

>>52236351
Hahahaha

>>52236351
>I can't wait to renew my Twitter subscription

>>52236364

yah, I think he is a moron

is 50,000,000 subscribers even remotely possible?

>>52236246
A billion in america means a hundred million, only an ESL wouldn't know that.

>>52236351
>>52236364
>>52236380
>>52236388

okay, kinda going out on a limb here, but bear with me

>Spotify had 182 million subscribers in Q1 2022, a 15% increase year-on-year. It surpassed 100 million in Q1 2019.

Spotifty charges, what? like $10 a month?

Is twitter comparable to spotify? I don't think so.

>>52234642
Anybody else remember when Sansa was raped by Ramsay Bolton on Game of Thrones?

https://www.vocativ.com/news/194971/data-people-really-hated-that-game-of-thrones-rape-scene/index.html

This is where I first recognized the power of Twitter.

>>52236388
Fucking no

>>52236399

>this is who is giving you financial advice on /biz

>>52236136
>I know math is hard
Her own math is off by a factor of 10. Twitter is still overrun by imbeciles

>>52234642
free speech on twitter is some of the most backwards shit normies unironically believe

>>52236399
wasted dubs nigger

most people don't use twitter because it's an awful place, even more awful than here
99% of the traffic are bots

“You’re right. I did lose a million dollars last year. I expect to lose a million dollars this year. I expect to lose a million dollars next year. You know, Mr Thatcher, at the rate of a million dollars a year, I’ll have to close this place in 60 years.”

>>52236136
Look’s like math is indeed hard. I wonder how many people read that and believe it, without checking the numbers.

Anyway, it should be obvious he fucked up, didn’t want to buy that shithole in the first place but it backfired. I can’t believe people how people can see him as free speech advocate either.

>>52235202
>he might be worlds poorest man rn, poor people do dumb shit

>>52236439
>Pol types promised return to 4chan freedom but on Twitter
>Advertisers decide to leave
>Elon musk can't figure out why advertisers don't want their products advertised next to pol types
fucking lol

>>52235175
>implying jews are people
Elon Musk is the world's richest man.

>>52236485
Is /pol/ in the thread with us now? Did he touch you on your axe wound?

>>52236345
It’s private now you asshat. What did you miss by musk buying the company.

>>52236388
Hell no. There's only like 20 million active users.

>>52236345
Short Tesla instead. It's inextricably linked to Twitter now because of Elon going full retard.

>>52236485
the good thing about this is that means both Twitter and Elon Musk will eventually fuck off in the next 3 years

4chin keeps winning bitches

>>52236508
Hurt your ego when I attacked pol do you have it tied to that shit board like you do musk and trump

There are people in this thread, at this very moment, who bought a 4chan pass.

>>52236509
so what you are saying is musk has an opportunity to raise money by going public again?

>>52236542
>YOU'RE FRAGILE EGO IS INTERTWINED WITH POL
>MUH TRUMP
ok retard

>>52234642
You have to take into consideration all of Musks companies when looking at his twitter investment. It’s highly probable that he views being able to put his thumb on the scale of public discourse as advantageous to lobbying efforts and the impact of elections on all of his businesses.

no one gives a shit social media was a mistake

>>52236575
>Even when he loses he actually wins .what compels you to act like a battered housewife

>TRUST ME BRO FED WILL SOON RAISE INFLATION TARGET AND MOON WE GO

When will the room temp IQ retards learn that Fed ain't playing Volcker's rollercoaster game this time?

>>52236136
Math is hard given that 1 mil x $8/month x 12 months is only 96 mil not $1 bil. Someone misplaced a decimal point…

>>52236599
*fuck, better not have /smg/ and some other biz thread open at the same time

>>52236479
why would you reply with that to me? elons networth is mostly derived from his tesla and spacex stock, he is a paper rich, not real rich, considering half of his tesla stock is now pledges as collateral he isn't even paper rich anymore, considering he bought twitter and twitter straigh up gonna cost him 5 bils a year he is fucking broke unless he sells twitter or shuts it down which he is doing rn with his staff layoffs

>>52236338
It's a globohomo consesus generator full of bots and shills. Only woke and "redpilled" NPCs use it.

>>52235179
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't telling people you're going to fire them before you fire them count as notice? Or does California only let you fire people after a year's notice? I honestly wouldn't be surprised with that state, the only reason it still exists is because it sucks billions of dollars out of productive states every year.

>>52236485
funny thing is twitter actually does have a thriving far-right community. If you avoid slurs, harassment and fedposting you can say pretty much whatever you want. The only people getting silenced are 90iq retards.

It was never about free speech in the first place.

>>52236876
How was that funny

>>52234642
if anything now is the time for weaponized twitter trolling
pay some neets in monero to blackball all the companies that pulled ads and they dont even have to lie jsut expose the bullshit every big corp does without the thought police patrolling and see them come beg on their knees to be allowed into the new 100k/month corporate rehabilitation program

this boomer managers in pepsi or whatever that is pulling have no idea how hard their brands can be tanked in todays world

>>52234729
They already do.

>>52236546
Indeed, and then everyone could short it.

>>52236902
Seethe

>>52234642
It's literally the jews.
>It's always the jews

so what do you think? Is Elon figuring out these people can't be negotiated with? Will he try to play by their rules still and continue to lose or will he start calling his enemies out and attemt to work around them? Did he know all along that they weren't worth talking to and only did so to show everyone that it was futile, as a way to get more people on his side? it's hard for me to tell if Elon the retard we see at the surface level or a genius playing 4D chess

>>52234718
What if it’s just the same ghostwriter that works for both of them

He's going to push the operating costs down, way too many useless eaters and inefficiencies for a shitty website to cost 6 billion a year.

>>52234817
What if it dies but he refuses to sell?

>>52236462
He’s doing it for the lels

>>52236485
This whole situation reveals that it was more of a patronage system between blue checks and Twitter.

>>52235046
That was only true when you couldn't just buy it.

>>52236351
>so he would need roughly 50,000,000 annual subscribers to break even without ad support.

Running Twitter doesn't cost 44 billion every year. 44 billion is needed to make his investment back, and theres no way he's expecting to do that in the first year. Operating costs will be significantly lower because he's firing so many people. As long as he can make MORE money than operating costs each year, by a fair bit, it was worth it. Just getting 2% of Twitters userbase to pay $8/month would be more than enough to bring Twitter into profitability, and that's with ZERO advertiser support. Getting it to a goal of 5%, with a decent amount of advertiser support, and Elon would absolutely make good on his purchase in less than 10 years.

>>52234769
Don't underestimate vanity. Also businesses. I'd charge 20 for that jpg

twitter has ads?

>>52238078
People aren't going to be buying it for vanity, they're going to do it to impersonate celebs and brands, and then the only reason the celebs or brands wanted a checkmark goes out the window.

People will return to active post to Facebook with their verified real name. Twitter will die when those self-crowned important people leave because like it or not they are the ones producing content keeping people on platform.

>>52236047
He had an option to pay $1 billion to back out

>>52236546
he could but he'd lose tons of money doing so. He over-paid for the company so he wouldn't get what he paid.

>>52237884
The bank lent him money based on his Tesla shares so he would be forced to sell those to pay it back.

>>52234642
>>Monetise Blue Check for $8. If 15% of current 400,000 Checkies sign up to pay , that’s about $6 mil per year.

how ritarted are you? Anyone will be able to purchase the blue checkmark. Definetly more than 400k signups.

Regardless of that it's still a dogshit purchase, unless he's able to expand the platform by beyond anyones expectations.

>>52236975

because only celebrities have them dumbass

there's no point giving them to npc's

he will most likely make the money back easily
nobody in this thread has mentioned that cashapp and Twitter are basically integrated already, him and Dorsey are friends and coordinated this
cashapp transfers are basically treated as gifts, and if he implements dogecoin and charges a small fee for instant payments from a tweet, he will have a head start at crypto integration. think of all the parasocial relationships on Twitter, all of the actual prostitutes. he will probably exclusively advertise Tesla for vehicles. everything is slowly converging into one super app, and he’s banking on Twitter to be that app. its a long game to play, but he will probably win. his only competition is Facebook/instagram, and they seem fairly incompetent. tiktok is Chinese, they will be shut out at some point. Google is awful at social media other than YouTube, but YouTube style integration is an inevitability

>>52237857
This. I bet Twitter only needs 5 people running it plus some supervisor cuck. Run it like Craigslist before it get fbi. Then have pay to play mods like special/collectible items like in d&d and Pokémon and shit that only last a month at most and then goes to another person. People will love to virtue signal they got a +5000 word post ability or +5 min video ability.

>>52238385
It's weird how youtube streaming is still so shit

>>52234979
I totally agree based ADL poster.

I’ve never met a zoomer who uses Twitter for actual social media. The ones who do use it are thots promoting their porn/only fans.

>>52238514
ironic and subtle

>>52238560
zoomers definitely use Twitter, just mostly anonymously. for some reason millenials and older generations forgot that you shouldn’t put your real identity on the internet

>>52238650
I mean maybe in other states, all my friends use tiktok and reddit, I know a handful that use Twitter

>>52238514

HOLY FUCK, I just noticed it

AI has gone too far

>>52238695
*not far enough

>>52234979
If they are pulling ad support from the platform because it's so reprehensible now then why do they still need an account there?

>>52238708

no seriously this is giving me schizophrenia, I keep looking for patterns

>>52238730
better getting used to it then

>>52234642
>posture as free speech champion
>we did everything to appease censorship-lovers!
>literally no change to moderation policy, still "fact-checking" wrongthinkers, still no trump
???

>>52234642
80% of all advertising in the US goes through the AAAA a completely jewish organization, this is also why every commercial is made to demoralize whites

>>52234817
if twitter dies pol might actually become usuable again

>>52238730
Once you notice they are everywhere.

>>52236900
because it draws attention to the fact that you're a seething retard

>>52238730
take meds anon, it's just a picture of a building
seriously, I'm worried, seek help

He's always been a midwit grifter, propped up by dumb retail, the tech bubble and gov subsidies. Look at his takes on crypto for example, backing doge of all shitcoins, instead of betting big on smart contracts and defi, etc. doesn't even understand the block size debate. All he had was his "brand" and his image as a pioneer when he didn't invent anything or even started tesla himself, all the midwit reddit leftists who propped him up, muh real life tony stark, the irony is now he's alienated the leftist crowd because he went full pol after grimeth cucked him with a tranny. EV was the perfect front for ESG investing eg jewish accounting, but now he's gone into crypto and free speech he's become counter semitic while barely even realizing it. He bowed down to the ADL for nothing, the ad groups will still leave because it's all about the tribe owning the social engineering power structure from top to bottom. The guy sent his shit to support Ukraine and the msm is nonetheless calling him a Putin asset. The fact that he barely even realizes what game is being played is the proof he's a moron. Henry Ford at this point would have already released his manifesto instead of posting stupid memes on twitter.

>>52236543
I did. Got tired of the fucking captchas. Best btc i ever spent. Other than buying chainlink with it

Some of the people posted pictures showing that they were locked out of their Twitter-issued Macs. That basically proves that they didn’t do any real work. Macs are toys for personal use. I have a MacBook and love it. However, I couldn’t imagine getting any actual work done with it. Windows is for actual work.

>>52239151
>Look at his takes on crypto for example, backing doge of all shitcoins, instead of betting big on smart contracts and defi, etc
>instead of betting big on smart contracts and defi, etc
why did 4chan love playing on Habbo Hotel servers? why wouldn't we as a collective storm the fronts of more technical game design like Dragon's Dogma!
you're a retard

Did he really not know going in how it would work? That it's the ADL that controls ad revenue? That twitter was just one of its many disposable puppets? That it all always boils down to the JQ? Marvelous how this is unfolding at the same time as the Ye shit, and so few can still see the big picture.

>>52234970
Well, considering he paid 44.000 Millions on it, it is just:
44.000/(750-221)=83 years to break even

A Bunch of Anons Who Suck at Math: The Thread. Y'all sounding like you're on Twitter ffs

>>52239397
you fucking foreign cunt

>>52239397
you realize he can sell it again right? Which he will do on the next bull run, screencap this.

>>52237772
Elon just needs to tweet the word "Sneed" and all his enemies will reveal themselves.

Current Twitter discourse is that Musk is snking the company and everyone there is saying that they are leaving.

Still, haven't seem any of that happening.

Do we actually have data of Twitter accounts decreasing? Or any hard evidence that a significative number of people are running away from the site?

The issue is that all these eople saying that they are leaving, are still posting on twitter, about how much they wont be on twitter, so I cant be sure.

>>52236876
Let's not pretend that on Twitter, conservatives weren't held to a higher standard than progressives.
>Fuck Trump and anyone who voted for him
All good
>Fuck Hillary and anyone who voted for her
Instant ban

>>52239842
Settle down Elon

This moron forgot that the goyim go whereever the jewish media tells them to go. All the jewish media has to do is create a new social network and then make news stories about how "everyone has been flocking to the hot new social media site.", etc.

>>52234642
$200k a year? For twitter?
What are there spice/pajjets interns?

>>52236746
>the only reason it still exists is because it sucks billions of dollars out of productive states every year.
actually they pay more than they use, but they get all that from agriculture that they steal water to grow and use mexicants to harvest for basically free

>>52238514
Holy shit this is the best one yet. Not even a human could design this!

>>52238169
>People will return to active post to Facebook
Go to bed mark.

Elon just threatened the advertisers who pulled out with a "name and shame" campaign. Good luck getting business with that strategy.

>>52240060
He meant that people will return to active rooms in the metaverse

>>52235091
Then why us it such a shitshow with Elon Musk constantly backtracking on everything and complaining about everyone? Is it merely an act?

>>52240172
To be fair he's always like that, it's not really indicative of anything

>>52239921
>Settle down Elon
Wut

I just asked for data regarding that. I'm curious to know what is the alternative that fulfills the same NICHE.

>>52238514
>>52238708
>>52238737
>>52238885
Please post these all over twitter

Just another person who life get ruined because he fell to right-wing grifters meme. Many such cases.

>>52235179
>Dude, he's gonna get fucked by California law requiring 60 day notice of mass layoffs. It's a $500/day per employee fine. Additionally, employees laid off without notice must be paid their salary for that time, and any medical expenses during that period just be entirely covered by the company.
Good thing he fucking gave everyone he fired a severance package until end of Feb, which is 90 days not 60 days you fucking mongoloid.

>>52239842
>Current Twitter discourse is that Musk is snking the company and everyone there is saying that they are leaving.
There is a lot of people showing up on Mastodon, Kathy Griffin showed up on mastodon.social.

>>52240941
>There is a lot of people showing up on Mastodon
Yes but...

>EVERY Mastodon user I have seem, said that the site sucks
>Mastodon doesn't even fullfill the same niche as Twitter, being more of a Discord, than a place where you can outreach wider audiences and new people

To me it looks like the people who say that they are going to move to Canada if their politician of choice is not in charge.

>>52234716
>Farticles

>>52239842
>>52240941
Sounds like classic newfaggotry. Every few years something happens here that makes people seethe and they say they're all going to nu-chan that anon just made, and a few people migrate over and seethe together for awhile before coming back because you're here forever. The twits will now discover this phenomenon.

>>52241231
The exception to this being when Tumblr banned porn. As long as Elon leaves the coomers alone he'll be fine

>>52234642
the $8 is spam prevention you doink

>>52241804
he needs to turn off the annoying fucking signin popup

>>52234729
trust me, your are not as intelligent as you think you are

>>52235179
that's still less than the cash Twitter was burning through will all those shitty made up departments kek

>>52236407
spotify has vastly more competition than twister has

>>52238514
nice improvement. thats really the best so far.

hoes mad Elon. keep em sizzlin'

>>52241452
Thats what I was thinking too

Porn has such a massive power on Twitter, nothing that Elon plans to do seem to have any effect on the Hentai artists, they have no reason to leave or care about USA politics. Hentai artists will keep posting on twitter.