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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shutdown/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. When P2Pool reaches 51% of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET!

If you have a PC or laptop:

1. Download Monero GUI
https://i.imgur.com/ZGefPef.png

2. Pick 'Advanced' mode
https://i.imgur.com/4c0uSE4.png

3. Set up your wallet
https://i.imgur.com/4lMKh00.png

4. Keep the default Daemon settings "Start a node automatically in the background"
https://i.imgur.com/maACmmT.png

5. Once sync'd, go to Advanced->Mining and pick 'P2Pool'. If you have a laptop or low-end PC (~50 kH/s) pick "Mini" pool, else pick "Main"
https://i.imgur.com/E60JeMG.png


>YOU CAN USE P2POOL-COMPATIBLE REMOTE NODES IF YOU DO NOT HAVE YOUR OWN LOCAL COPY OF THE BLOCKCHAIN
https://xmrvsbeast.com/p2pool/monero_nodes.html


OTHERWISE SWITCH TO A SMALLER POOL, IT TAKES YOU 30 SECONDS AND YOU CAN JUST SOURCE A DIFFERENT CONFIG FILE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FUCK UP YOUR EXISTING ONE.

Many inexperienced miners think that big pools give better profits which is not the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

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Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://monero.com/marketplace
https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/
https://acceptedhere.io/catalog/currency/xmr/

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (currently US only)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>AlphaBay
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market #
>Cloud Market #
>Dark Matter #
>Darkmoon #
>FilthyFellas
>Mellow Market #
>Pygmalion
>Retro Market #
Onion links: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/fs7ax


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Kilos
>Majestic Bank (exercise caution, possibly exit-scamming)
>Elude
>Infinity Project
https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/8cunb


>Poker Club: play no-limit Texas Hold'em in real time with 2-8 players over the safety of Tor with the privacy of Monero! No user account required.
http://pokerggxmrvzecuo6afhucjwdljuve5eoavxdxdr6zedyejd6mvz5wad.onion

>XMR Poker
http://xmrpoker3icphjr7c6dgct3by44ph4xvxrds4jzwjkjh7h2owdf6icyd.onion


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://magicgrants.org/funds/monero/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

>The irrational exuberance of cryptocurrency investors

Irrational exuberance is characterized as a hype-fueled mania that causes investors to massively overestimate an asset's real-world value. In this delusional state, investors tend to become so smitten with expectations of greater profits that they disregard the assets’ potentially weak fundamentals and drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.

This then leads to them recklessly and repeatedly buying into whatever asset is currently rising in the charts, thereby triggering and/or sustaining an asset bubble. This bubble is kept inflated solely by the mass delusion that the market price is justified and will only keep going up in future, effectively becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Note that bubbles can last for years, especially in an age of easy investor on-boarding. However, when history inevitably repeats and the bubble bursts that optimism invariably turns into panic as the asset crashes back down to its real-world value.

In finance, the "greater fool theory" suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets—items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value—if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.

In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, hoping that he can sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit. This only works as long as there are enough new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value, which in some cases could be zero.

This effect is often further exacerbated by herd mentality, whereby people hear stories of others who bought in early and made big profits, causing those who did not buy to feel a fear of missing out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g

>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

What's Monero chan's price?

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>>51652689
>3dpd in OP.
boooo.

>>51652689
Would

>>51654051
>implying you wouldn't

Sats holding up nicely. Breaking the 2021 bull market high still on the table.

>>51652689
sauce on girl?

>>51656085
https://www.monerochan.art/cosplay2.html

>>51656217
>>>51652689 (OP)
how much monero for the X rated photo shoot?

I would let Monerochan torture me for my seedphrase

>>51656737

Based.

Any 7000 series benchmarks yet?

>>51653456
Bout tree fiddy
JK, she is priceless.

>>51653565
Based

Is it worth mining with an i3 6100T? I want to buy a Dell Optiplex 3040 micro to act as a miner/server. Is it worth it?

How do I fix this error on cake wallet. I am trying to get a subway gift card with xmr.

>>51657852
It's not worth mining even with high end cpus.
That's by design and the currently very low price.
Also Intel processors are slightly worse at mining in general.
The question is do you want to support the network? Great! Mine with anything.
Keep in mind that you won't make any money tho.

>>51652689
Too high market cap it wont go much up + NIGGERS dont use it. Thats like half the usecase.

>>51653565
based

>>51657852
it is ALWAYS worth mining Monero. Helping securing the network has no price. Look at P2Poll Mini if you want to earn daily chuncks of XMR

>>51658928
i can too spend 20$ to have 4 niggers dancing with Monero tshirts. means nothing

>>51658928
kek.

>>51658928
>jogger team six in da house
OHNONONON MONERO BROS WE SHOULD HAVE PAID REPARASHUNS INSTEAD OF THOT-COSPLAYS

>>51659609
>i can too spend 20$ to have 4 niggers dancing with Monero tshirts. means nothing.

Please don't. It would be bearish.

>>51658344
Cake wallet released an update today, have you tried it since the update?
As far as I know Cake Pay was/is on pause temporarily, I receive the same error.

>>51659787
Yeah this is post update. What a piece of shit.

>>51658928
https://youtu.be/Km1mZdyavCU

>Trusted technology, growing adoption

Zcash was launched by one of the most respected technical teams in the world.

Zcash is the 'https of blockchains,' protecting your freedom to save and spend as you like.

Zcash was the first project to implement zk-SNARKs, a novel form of zero-knowledge cryptography that gives its users the strongest privacy available in any digital currency.

Multiple, independent organizations are funded to innovate on Zcash.

Zcash is already available on top exchanges, digital wallets and a growing number of applications.

Can someone explain to my how Monero works so even devs do not know how to trace transactions apparently. Also wouldn’t it be easy to find out how to trace them when the code is open source? Where can I read about this?

This is what Monero chuds don't want you to know.

Buy Zcash if you actually want to make it.

>>51661249

Monero's ring signatures have been cracked by the NSA, use Zcash for ironclad privacy.

>>51661313
Tell your CEO hello for us

>>51661249
>Can someone explain to my how Monero works so even devs do not know how to trace transactions apparently.
I don't know how these two things are related.
There are mathematical proofs the prove certain calculations give correct output even without knowing the actual result.
>Also wouldn’t it be easy to find out how to trace them when the code is open source?
No. Math is strong. There are many math problems we don't know the solution to when not given all the inputs.
>Where can I read about this?
Start with some basic crypto courses, like how works RSA, DH and so on so you get comfortable with cryptography. Then you can of course read the monero book.
Ring signatures are hard to understand without having strong math background so be prepared to get frustrated. I personally don't want to do this kind of math ever again.

>>51661249
>Can someone explain to my how Monero works so even devs do not know how to trace transactions apparently
Public key cryptography. Monero actually uses (a modern version of) cryptography developed in the 70's so that spy networks could send confidential information over an insecure channel that is likely to be monitored by an adversary. Monero takes this well-understood cryptography (known as a Diffie-Hellman key exchange) and uses it to generate a "stealth address" so that the only thing actually stored on the blockchain for receiving address is an encrypted string of characters no adversarial party trying to view transaction flow could derive information from. The cryptography of Monero has no dependence on special dev knowledge any more than Whitfield Diffie and Martin Hellman have any secret power to decrypt a D-H key exchange. This just covers one aspect of Monero's privacy (stealth addresses) but it's arguably the most important aspect and is based on iron-clad, very well tested cryptography.

https://www.comparitech.com/blog/information-security/diffie-hellman-key-exchange/

>>51661313
fake niggggggggggger

>>51662639
As a hint for newbies: public key cryptography underlies nearly all serious modern encryption. SSL/TLS (HTTPS, IMAPS, OpenVPN, Cisco SSLVPN, etc.), SSH, PGP, WireGuard, etc. all use public key encryption. It's basically the one underlying technology behind using the Internet for anything more than sharing public documents/messages.

>https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1574762845648322560

>>51664299
When you work for the boys from the bank you have a get out of jail free card.

id g91MLY0g
Do you want us to make a Zcash thread, or do you want to make your zcash thread? Or as a third option, you can to shut the fuck up.

>>51666293
>Not giving a (you) to a znigger.
Based.

>>51666293

>>51666293
zcash just wants to hurt the community, so they don't want a thread, they want to actively go to the only place that offers privacy and destroy it.

>>51658928
Firobros... we lost
https://www.getmonero.org/2021/12/22/what-is-seraphis.html#what-about-lelantus-spark

>>51661313
Is this true? Are there maybe some altcoins that have more advanced technology than XMR? (don’t tell me Zcash lol) Trying to buy some good privacy alts if we see a privacy run

>>51668825
Kys moonboy

Are you guys really not afraid?

>>51668825
There is firo (zcoin), but it has its own problems. Firo's cryptography is better, but their implementation is lacking and buggy, they have almost zero usage, they just aren't battle-tested like monero (zerocoin-based cryptocurrencies are bitcoin forks, they usually don't have that much thought put into them beyond proof-of-concept), they will mostly be made irrelevant by monero's planned seraphis upgrade, and they recently introduced PoS because they were getting 51%'d by miners.

Monero is the de-facto privacy coin. It is the only one actually used on the DN, it is the only one that gets properly audited, it is the only one that has a sufficiently large anonset, it is the only one with decentralized mining, and it is the only one with community-driven development (donation driven, not taking a percentage from miners).

Most other privacy altcoins are shitcoins. Stay far away from the likes of ARRR, GRIN, DERO, etc. and shitforks like XMC. As much as people shit on zcash here, there are are many worse privacy coins, and there's a reason why zcash is at least in second place: you get some points for showing up and not being a complete scam.

Really, it's monero in first place, then firo at a very distant second, then zcash at an even more distant third, and then a monsoon of scams behind them.

>>51669085
Tornado is an ETH mixer which ETH Niggers need because their transactions are open for the world to see. XMR does not need or use mixers and is just private by default. Send/Receive XMR and you're done. The government can regulate all they want but they can't stop people from transacting in XMR.

>>51669148
They were able to sanction Tornado Cash because Tornado Cash was set up as a business. The one time they tried to sanction XMR they got a 5-address which is just a TX ID.

>>51669173
>They were able to sanction Tornado Cash because Tornado Cash was set up as a business.
Institutionalized crypto/crypto services will always be at the mercy of the law.

whats the best exchange for monero if i don't care about kyc and kraken can't do business in my state? is binance fine?

>>51669415
Binance is the single worst offender at locking people out of XMR withdrawals, and you'd need a VPN anyways because US Binance doesn't offer XMR at all.

>>51669427
aye good to ask then. what exchange should i use? i'm not planning on actually using it for anything so fees>privacy, i'm just going to accumulate while the economy's shit.

like.. what exchange would be cheapest to buy a small amount every month in usa and send it to a wallet?

>>51669415
>whats the best exchange for monero if i don't care about kyc
LocalMonero, and yes I read that correctly

>>51669458
TradeOgre, KuCoin, ChangeNow, and after that it's DEXes.

>>51669473
A small amount? I don't know. If I was in a state that didn't have kraken, I would probably just do on any fiat-to-crypto exchange with LTC, BCH, or USDT and then take that to a crypto-to-crypto exchange like tradeogre.

You get burned a bit with all the transfer fees between exchanges and stuff. So I would stick to doing a few big payments. But you can do localmonero too.

Which wallet mobile app do you guys recommend for Monero?

>>51661313
meanwhile

>>51669695
none, use the official wallets

>>51669644
thanks anon i have a kucoin account, that works.

>>51669695
I like Cake Wallet, but that was the only real option when I started with XMR (old habits) and Cake Pay is broken for XMR at this time so I wouldn't rely on it yet (emailed the devs; pic related but there's no documentation on the glitch which pisses me off)

>>51671617
I'm considering changing wallets, but I like the prospect of having Cake Pay in the future so I'm going to give it time to be sorted before swapping. Plus the wallet is working fine for it's intended purpose since I only use it for Monero transactions at this time anyway, so I'm trying not to let my irrational anger of an undocumented bug regarding a function I don't use sway my hand. Keep in mind it doesn't take your XMR when it bugs, it just fails with no transaction being made.

>>51652689
I want to make the 69 with Monero chan.

>>51669132

>>51668825

Zcash is objectively the superior privacy coin, you can't expect the pedos here to be honest about the competition.

DYOR and you'll see, Zcash is the future while Monero is already obsolete.

Does using Exodus make it less private? I'm using the GUI wallet currently, but storing the blockchain has gotten a little strenuous on my computer resources, so I'm looking for a better option. Ik that Feather wallet is an option, but I don't want to sync to the blockchain every time I open it and Exodus also supports other cryptos and swapping in one app (I do liquidity mining to stack more XMR and I swap w/ Godex currently).

Asking for a friend.

Monero is not a bank. Monero is an Internet archipelago full of buried pirate treasure. Your seed phrase and block height are the treasure map. Fog between the islands prevents tracing the path of ships laden with treasure.

>>51674008
based

>>51673929
I dislike Exodus because it's not open source. I wouldn't personally feel comfortable putting money in it. Probably fine for privacy though.

pic related is the only viable hold right now

>>51673929
not necessarily, but its a closed source wallet. also I wouldnt swap there as it got high fees

you can set up the GUI to use a remote node so you dont have to store it yourself. this would make it somewhat less private as the node can see your IP when submitting a tx

>>51652689
monerochan looks like THIS?!

>>51661249
>even devs do not know how to trace transactions apparently
that's because it's not possible to track monero transactions and link them to an address/person by default. you have to explicitly give someone your view keys and only then you can see incoming/outgoing transactions for a certain account.

>>51653456
>What's Monero chan's price?
an unknown amount

>>51669132
Why is DERO a scam? What do you think about SCRT? Not necessarily looking for the best privacy coin but looking for the coin that could pump the most if there was a privacy run

>>51676163
There is never going to be a privacy run, and Monero is the only coin with a Schelling point in the space.

This sounds snarky but is serious, but if you want pump potential just stack Doge. It has low fees unlike ERC20 shitcoins so it means even the most marginal retail normies can buy it without getting destroyed by fees, and it's very attractive to retail people as it's huge supply makes people think it's cheap.

>>51673215
Glad to see that Zooko is still paying for your bills! Was worried you might have starved! Advertising fund well spent!

>>51676328
There was kind of a privacy run already, most privacy coins Im looking at are down 90+% from a year ago..
I’d argue that if Monero manages to go to new ATHs with the CBDC narrative, then privacy altcoins could probably pump even more and outperform XMR

>>51669085
ban and subsequent dump of xmr would be a good thing long term since it would help with coin distribution. naturally short term it would bring a lot of pain but what's the alternative? fiat? cbdcs?

Anyone got any tips on spreading SilentXMRMiner around, if you know what I mean?

>>51677187
>Anyone got any tips on spreading SilentXMRMiner around, if you know what I mean?

>>51677606
Do people just learn this stuff through telepathy?

Captcha:
> WY0 XMR

>>51676546
xmr is winner takes all

>>51677696
You're going to end up going to jail for $1 a day.

i started mining in p2pool from the GUI wallet of monero...

and i don't receive any xmr coin from y wallet... :(

>>51677854
You need to find a share within the window, otherwise you will not receive anything. Also, if your hash rate is low you may wish to use the mini pool.

>>51677970
my hashrate is around 1059, is it enough ?

and ow can i make the share ?

https://youtu.be/9VF1eyncZMY?t=1289

Monero will win.

>>51679724
I miss being above 0.01btc

>>51680187
soon, brother.

>>51679724
zoom out

>>51677793
In which country?

>>51680370

Long-term trends, genius.

Fungi girl spotted

>>51683435
Nice degrading Monerochans's sanctity and virtuous holiness with 3dpd yeast infested roastie thot.

>>51683522
She seems like a nice lady.

>>51683835
Yes, I love yeast infested roastie thots. Just no LARP as my waifu.

when're we getting rich lads?

>>51684638
>when're we getting rich lads?

Next Thursday.

>>51677696
>Do people just learn this stuff through telepathy?
by asking on russian CS forums not on english imageboards hosted in the US

>>51678000
hello fren, if you mine at 1050h/s be sure that you chose to mine on P2Pool Mini as it is considered as "low" hashrate
to receive payment you need 2 things to occur: you need to find a p2pool share and p2pool needs to mine a monero block. both things need to happen within a 6h window.
this explains better -> https://github.com/SChernykh/p2pool#how-pplns-works-in-p2pool

this can take a while, sometimes days, and sometime you have multiple P2Pool share while P2Pool finds a block or more. you can calculate you average share thime here -> https://mini.p2pool.observer/calculate-share-time

also if you mine on windows, see this tutorial to mine with Xmrig rather than the GUI, it seems more efficient -> https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/bjk9r

>>51652689
>3d monerochan
>actually halfway decent looking
I'll allow it

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https://www.pishop.us/product/poe-ups-mini-computer-designed-for-raspberry-pi-cm4-gigabit-ethernet-dual-hdmi-quad-usb2-0/
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Good or bad idea?

>>51652689
just finally give us the total collapse of the markets. i want ultra cheap coins again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzbLODUb1sA

>>51689707
for monero node? terrible idea. get something with physical AES like a rockpi 4 or a rockpro.

You guys remember the guy behind the GTA6 hack and wanted BTC for it? He got arrested because his OPSEC was shit, I don't think he even got to the BTC step lmao

>>51683435
just photoshop that and the background out

>>51689566
That's a dude.

>>51692049
we need an actual trap to do the next one.

>CIA bros are pumping xmr harder then NSA BTC niggers pumping BTC

wtfwt LSD profits are going well? NSA lost contracts?

>>51692049
>>51692797
>no monerochan private view key
you'll never know

xmrmemes.com is not responding anymore. Seems that the owner has let it go down.

Pretty sure the code was open source for anyone to host similar platforms. I would but I'm too retarded to know how to use it. Perhaps someone in the future will take over for him though since he seems uninterested in the site anymore.

For the trillionth time this may may currency is irrelevant and forgotten no matter how you shill this you disingenuous bastards.

>>51695815
thank you, very insightful.

>>51652735
>START MINING IN P2POOL
>>START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
>>START MINING IN P2POOL
>P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.
>P2Pool has no central server that can be shutdown/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!
>Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. When P2Pool reaches 51% of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.
>>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET!
>If you have a PC or laptop:
>1. Download Monero GUI
>https://i.imgur.com/ZGefPef.png
>2. Pick 'Advanced' mode
>https://i.imgur.com/4c0uSE4.png
>3. Set up your wallet
>https://i.imgur.com/4lMKh00.png
>4. Keep the default Daemon settings "Start a node automatically in the background"
>https://i.imgur.com/maACmmT.png
>5. Once sync'd, go to Advanced->Mining and pick 'P2Pool'. If you have a laptop or low-end PC (~50 kH/s) pick "Mini" pool, else pick "Main"
>https://i.imgur.com/E60JeMG.png
>>YOU CAN USE P2POOL-COMPATIBLE REMOTE NODES IF YOU DO NOT HAVE YOUR OWN LOCAL COPY OF THE BLOCKCHAIN
>https://xmrvsbeast.com/p2pool/monero_nodes.html
>OTHERWISE SWITCH TO A SMALLER POOL, IT TAKES YOU 30 SECONDS AND YOU CAN JUST SOURCE A DIFFERENT CONFIG FILE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FUCK UP YOUR EXISTING ONE.
>Many inexperienced miners think that big pools give better profits which is not the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
>https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
>https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
>https://www.supportxmr.com
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>>51652756
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
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>Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying storage and wallet guide.
>>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature explained
>https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org
>>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
>https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable
>>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
>https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin
>>Breaking News: no Monero still isnt traceable
>https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD
>>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTraces magic crystal ball
>https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail
>>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isnt being inflated
>https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug
>>Pssst wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
>https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero
>>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
>https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill
>>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
>https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill
>>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
>https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill
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>- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
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>- added a new section about traceability FUD
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>>51652775
>Never forget what this is ultimately all about.
>https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
>>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!
>https://monerica.com/
>https://moneromarket.io/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
>https://monero.com/marketplace
>https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/
>https://acceptedhere.io/catalog/currency/xmr/
>>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (currently US only)
>https://cakepay.com/
>>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
>https://coincards.com/
>>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
>http://monerosupplies.com/
>Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.
># = recently launched, exercise caution
>>AlphaBay
>>Archetyp
>>Asur Market
>>Chimera Market #
>>Cloud Market #
>>Dark Matter #
>>Darkmoon #
>>FilthyFellas
>>Mellow Market #
>>Pygmalion
>>Retro Market #
>Onion links: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/fs7ax
>Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service
>>Kilos
>>Majestic Bank (exercise caution, possibly exit-scamming)
>>Elude
>>Infinity Project
>https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/8cunb
>>Poker Club: play no-limit Texas Hold'em in real time with 2-8 players over the safety of Tor with the privacy of Monero! No user account required.
>http://pokerggxmrvzecuo6afhucjwdljuve5eoavxdxdr6zedyejd6mvz5wad.onion
>>XMR Poker
>http://xmrpoker3icphjr7c6dgct3by44ph4xvxrds4jzwjkjh7h2owdf6icyd.onion
>>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
>https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
>https://magicgrants.org/funds/monero/
>>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
>https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/
>>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
>https://www.monerochan.art/
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>>51652798
>>The irrational exuberance of cryptocurrency investors
>Irrational exuberance is characterized as a hype-fueled mania that causes investors to massively overestimate an asset's real-world value. In this delusional state, investors tend to become so smitten with expectations of greater profits that they disregard the assets’ potentially weak fundamentals and drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.
>This then leads to them recklessly and repeatedly buying into whatever asset is currently rising in the charts, thereby triggering and/or sustaining an asset bubble. This bubble is kept inflated solely by the mass delusion that the market price is justified and will only keep going up in future, effectively becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Note that bubbles can last for years, especially in an age of easy investor on-boarding. However, when history inevitably repeats and the bubble bursts that optimism invariably turns into panic as the asset crashes back down to its real-world value.
>In finance, the "greater fool theory" suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets—items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value—if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.
>In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, hoping that he can sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit. This only works as long as there are enough new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value, which in some cases could be zero.
>This effect is often further exacerbated by herd mentality, whereby people hear stories of others who bought in early and made big profits, causing those who did not buy to feel a fear of missing out.
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>>51652816
>>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked
>Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.
>If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:
>$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC
>$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap
>The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.
>Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.
>And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.
>So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.
>https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value
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>>51653565
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>XMR General hidden service IRC-

>nmwddc6ghgvt7kjzjncoxlv7g3febo6hkvqibqo5gx5p5dgt5e6uztqd.onion

>On any Linux Distro
>>run tor in background (you cannot connect without it)
>>on hexchat go to the "hexchat" tab and open network list, add a network, add that .onion link as the only server
>>go to the "settings" tab, click preferences, go down to "network setup" and under proxy server add
>>127.0.0.1 for hostname
>>port 9050
>>SOCKS5
>>once connected enter "/join #XMRGeneral"

>Windows users can also join the chat, they just need to
>>download tor browser
>>go to "tor" folder
>>Launch Tor.exe, which will run the tor service in the background
>>repeat steps 2-7 from the Linux instructions

Who the fuck still uses IRC to this stop with these larps

>>51696052
your mom was in the chat the other night it was pretty sweet.

>>51696063
Most likely than not you actually use discord or telegram if worse.

>>51696135
you might be retarded

>>51695815
Weird, I actually use it to buy things.

>>51696135
You are retarded period.

>>51688752
NTA is monero ocean a fine pool to mine in if i have 7000-10000h/s depending on what pc's are running? Or should I do p2ppool mini?

>>51696508
p2pool mini is good for the network, but you can use a small pool and it's OK.

>>51696052
>>51696037
>>51695958
>>51695927
>>51695893
>>51695871

sperging out

>>51696537
thanks. how much hashrate until i should switch from mini to p2ppool?
i'll probably add to it next time i come across some dumpster dive servers now that gpu mining is dead. electricity's "free" to me as long as i can fit it in my reptile room and use it to generate heat :^)

>>51652816
>>its value accrual tokenomic system post-merge will actually make ETH a tremendous store-of-value.

lol

>>51696165
>>51696448
IRC has been dead since 2015 and that is a good thing ironically.

>>51697020
you might be retarded, unironically.

>>51652816
Wait does this mean that Bitcoin is going to die? The energy costs and rewards are unsustainable.

>>51696748
I'm not sure but it should be quite high, I remember someone told me if you're below 100kh you should go to mini.

>>51697114

>>51697217
Unironically fuck you. I say what I want, bitch.

>>51695815
>>51695871
>>51695893
>>51695927
>>51695958
>>51696037
>>51696052
>>51696135
>>51697020
>>51697217
Pic rel Unironically.

>>51697217
>let alone, is it a legitimate word.
What did the esl mean by this?

>>51696508
MO is fine and is a 'little" pool. But honestly anon if you like Monero, take a few minutes and set it up to mine on P2Pool Mini. You help the network and receive bits of XMR very often (especially with your hashrate)
You can also mine on P2Pool with a remote node if it's what you prefer

>>51653565
>based as usual
I don't hold any monero or crypto whatsoever and as a matter of fact I don't know who is monero, but I still come to these threads because of monerochan and wireyboi. With that being said.

Based

>>51697217
It's not a word yet I and others will continue using it to converse. Linguistics retards (fake degree) can fuck themselves. Words are words if people use them. I don't give a shit if "oh no, you can't use that word it's not real because it didn't derive from people using it's root word in 842 while they starved and died!"

Linguistics departments are dead and a waste of societies resources.

>>51697985
Unironically this.

>>51652816
can anyone check this maths? is it actually accurate?
To be honest the "The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.
" seems weird.

>>51697985
You're conflating linguistics and prescriptivism.
Linguistics is a science that gives you insights into how languages work.
Prescriptivists suck a huge colourless green idea while autistically scREEEEching.
Not the same thing at all.

But Chomsky deserves some dick flattening no matter what.

>>51698050
>Linguistics is a science

Get the rope, it's over.

>>51698042
Honestly this is impossible to properly calculate. A would be attacker has more to gain with increased price per coin, so are more willing to secure the network.

You could just calculate the price for all miners to secure the network right now as the cost that must be paid each day/month/year/timeframe (but it could change if electricity costs change and if ASICs improve, which will probably happen), but then you have to realize even if electricity and ASICs don't change this, increased market cap will.

That being said, the price to secure the network is way too high to be sustainable with this decreasing reward model (eventually 0). It will fail in time, for now it's a tool for degenerate gamblers to "hodl" onto because "muh limited supply" as if anything they say makes sense for a worldwide currency.

>>51698111
So people are more willing to secure the network*

Or moreso, people need to spend more to secure the network in terms of hardware

MONEROMARKET.IO

Bamp

>>51698654
Perfume labels are out for delivery...
Dawn of the final day...

>>51705148
That's a good one

>>51705747
>5'9"
>308lbs
whoa, momma

>>51694758
It still works for me, but I uploaded a meme early this month and it's been in purgatory awaiting approval. Should I just launch an alternative as an Onion service?

>>51706150
he's a thiccy

HELP

I keep getting this message when I run the daemon
>Invalid DNSSEC TXT record signature for updates.moneropulse.org: validation failure <updates.moneropulse.org. TXT IN>: no signatures from 192.168.1.1 for trust anchor . while building chain of trust

I have the full GUI software (on Windows) but most of the time just run the daemon with the text interface in cmd

It wasn't happening when I was on 0.17.3.2
But it has happened since I updated to 0.18.1.1

What does it mean and what should I do?

I already ran ipconfig /flushdns. Did nothing.
Then I ran it in an elevated cmd. Still did nothing.
Ran it again in an elevated cmd then restarted Windows. Still did nothing.

It seems like it's still syncing even after that message. However...I ran it less than 2 days ago until I was fully synced up. Today I run it again and it says I'm 14 days behind. How can I fall 14 days behind in just 2 days...unless I didn't get fully up to sync 2 days ago, even though the daemon said I did. So confuse.

>>51706586
>no signatures from 192.168.1.1 for trust anchor . while building chain of trust
Your network is being MitMed.

>>51697217
lexicography is descriptive, not prescriptive, faggot

>>51706611
How/at what point in the chain, and by whom? I am connecting via WiFi to my all-in-one ISP supplied box. Yeah it's shit but whatever, has always been good enough for me, I don't have 10 gorillion devices all streaming 10 gorillion-k res vid all in my house. I have good security on the box, I am the only admin. A quick scan of the wifi network shows no devces I am unfamiliar with.

>>51706766
>to my all-in-one ISP supplied box.
That's probably what's fucking you.

>>51706811
I don't understand though, is it something malicious?

And it wasn't happening on 0.17.3.2. Can I uninstall 0.18.1.1 and go back to 0.17.3.2 (even if just to check), or do you think it would cause problems?

>>51707194
You can't go back to 0.17 due to the network upgrade.
Maybe try 0.18.1.0?
Sorry don't know.

>>51707194
ISPs have a long and storied tradition of fucking with DNS results for business reasons, or to block sites. Try again on a VPN.

>>51706766
outside of your current issue i would get rid of your isp supplied all in one. you pay a monthly fee for it anyways, its not free. just ask /g/ what the best current router is for dd-wrt whenever you get around to it. or turn an old computer into a pfsense/opnsense box. it might seem complicated at first but anyone who can RTFM can figure it out easily and there's even pretty good non pajeet guides for brainlets on yt for all three these days.
if you have cable internet you can almost always buy your own modem. they're dirt cheap used or open box. your isp probably has a list of supported modems. make sure its rated for the speeds you need.
if you have fiber you will probably have to use your isp provided ont box. i've been able to get some isp's to work without one using a sfp+ card, and some don't work, but don't tell your isp you're doing it. unlike cable companies they'll shut your service down if they find out you're not using their ont. they don't give a fuck if you use your own router though.
be aware you will get basically no tech support from your isp if you don't use their hardware.
but your isp provided hardware spies on you 100% chance if you're american and a high chance if you're european or elsewhere.
also as anons said, probably the root of your dns fuckery.

>>51706586
it shouldn't be too much a problem and it seems to be DNS related. see -> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/8452

and yes it is still synching and working after the message
and i guess you are synched by now

>>51706586
>>51706611
>>51706766
>>51706811
>>51707194
>>51707332
>>51707354
>>51707859
>>51707940
thanks guys
ok i tested thru vpn and yes no error message there so my default isp dns thingy is blocking moneropulse.org?

there doesnt seem to be a way to change the dns servers in the router settings, stuck with what they provide. but i guess i can change it on a per computer or per program basis?
on windows i think i remember how to do it (for my entire computer), but how would i go about changing it just for monero? is it possible? (i know changing it computer-wide would probably be better but im just a conservative guy when it comes to changes on the spot. call it boomerism, call it autism, whatever.)

as for changing the isp box wth my own hardware, thats a big project that i just don't have the time or energy or stomach for right now.

>>51708739
I think you'd have to do it for your computer unless there's a command line arg. I forget the exact steps for Windows, but on Debian-based systems you edit /etc/resolv.conf

>>51708739
are you sure?
if you look under your box or the documentation they usualy provide you with a control panel (adress like 192.168.0.1) and there in the settings you can modify the DNS for your router
and you can change your dns per computer at least, it's easy on linux or windows, just google that
for dns i would advise https://www.opennic.org/ but take any you want

>>51709054
Yeah I tried looking for some kind of config file, can't find one.
>>51709078
>are you sure?
>if you look under your box or the documentation they usualy provide you with a control panel (adress like 192.168.0.1) and there in the settings you can modify the DNS for your router
yeah, it's a really basic shitty router. it shos me what the dns servers are, but no way to change them.

Yeah so if there's no way to do it just for monero, I'll just do it for my whole wangblows system.

Ok I'll just change it computer-wide - well, at least for my home wifi connection. I'll try cloudflare or google first, once i'm comfortable with that i'll look into opennic.

(also yes i am aware that windows is fucking botnet and the opposite of private (monero), seems like an oxymoron, but i have to use windows for specific reasons for now)

ok yeah just tried cloudflare and the dns error message is gone

oh wait hol up

will changing the dns servers for this connection on windows have a (bad) effect on vpn usage? when i use my vpn, could this leak my real ip address or some shit?

>>51709470
>my whole wangblows system.
This is also part of your problem. Windows DNS handling is notoriously bad.

>>51709521
Short answer, probably not.

Long answer, when using a public DNS (like google, for this example), the DNS server will have a list of whatever you look up. I'm not sure the exact intricacies of it, but they may be able to do some sort of correlation attack I guess (to determine that the VPN IP is also you). At the end of the day, the trackers that are embedded into every website are a greater issue than your DNS. You shouldn't really rely on a VPN for serious privacy, especially if you aren't using a completely different browser to change your fingerprint

>>51709674
People misunderstand what VPNs are supposed to protect against. They protect against malicious local networks (public wifi, etc.), or against ISP shenanigans related to tracking which IPs you connect to. I run my own VPN tunnel out to a server I physically own because it works well for that and I don't have to risk the VPN operator turning against me. Does that prevent websites from personally identifying me if I allow their tracking resources to load? No, but neither does NordVPN.

MONERO CHADS, I'm doing gods work right now and need immediate support

>>>/pol/397572839

>>51710015
lurking nao

>>51709880
this
>>51709674
>>51709521
gonna slightly disagree ime those shitty soho routers especially isp ones will leak your dns all the time. some do some don't. in theory they shouldn't though. anon's right that vpn's don't offer anonymity in the way people think though, so how much it matters is up to you. any of the various browser leak test websites should tell you if you're fine or not.

>>51709078
this is a shitty normalfag meme format, but it is relatable. I almost spent 2 days trying to extract a part of monero's cryptography implementation, until I just gave up the monero-cpp library.
It would help if MoneroPy was updated and shit. There needs to be more implementations.

Surprised we haven't had the ztrash shill(s) show up yet

>>51712282
The Ztrannies and maxipads are over on the /pol/ thread doing damage control.

>>51676546
Some other privacy protocols sure will outperform Monero in the next bull run because the projects are making use of modern technology and are more innovative as well.

>>51713389
What stops Monero from hardforking to adopt them?

>>51713407
Monero is old tech

>>51669458
>>51669473
https://kycnot.me/

>>51713451
Cope harder. Monero uses trusted technology as opposed to new/experimental and potentially broken technology. When you guinea pigs ensure it's safe we'll switch over : )

> Some other privacy protocols
such as?

> this

>>51715510
The only coin I am bullish besides Monero is Ergo. But it's not a privacy coin. So I would only invest like 5% of the portfolio I don't have.

>>51716297
That's fair, I don't really like smart contracts so I wouldn't personally but I can understand the reasoning.

Can you do fan art commissions and have a patreon like subscription service for monero while still remaining anonymously

>>51717876
Get a real job, newfag.

>>51717876
We had some talks about a creating something similar in the past, but there isn't anything like that currently.

>>51716297
>5% in Ergo
>95% in Monero
So, uh, what's the total value of your portfolio? I'm not a fed, trust

>>51718716
I have no crypto and never will. I am just a passive observer and inlove with Monerochan.

>>51719158

Based.

>>51717876
BTCPay Server supports subscription type payment modes, so you could build something like that yourself (BTCPay Server supports Monero), but there's always a risk of deanonymization when you run a web service. The only things I can think of for automatic payments with the way Monero works involve escrow accounts or shared custody, so you're going to have to trust a third party or host it all yourself.

https://docs.btcpayserver.org/PullPayments/

>>51713451
>Monero is old tech
said whom?

>>51719158
>I have no crypto and never will. I am just a passive observer and inlove with Monerochan.
Literally me.

>>51716297
Ok thanks, Ergo is pretty interesting.

I have a temporary stable diffusion instance setup at https://10521.gradio.app/ that is trained on monerochan if anyone wants to play with it. It'll only be up for 72 hours tops.

The token is "monerochan" and the class is "girl", so use both in the prompt.

The prompt I used for picrel was:
>(((monerochan))), girl, full body, waifu, top 10, highly detailed, pixiv

>>51723183
Holy crap that's a genuine Monero-chan

>>51652689
how much XMR do I need for Monero-Chan to become my wife? Serious question im deeply in love with her

>>51723456
1 more than you have
t. knower

The face looks quite repetitive

>>51723121
Too busy to toy with it (working on weekend sucks) but all of thoses pics are very nice and cute.

>>51723183
This one is lewd as hell.

>>51723954
Only used these 12 images for training. Once someone figures out how to export models to a .ckpt file for use with local instances I'll try to retrain with more variety.

I was just fucking around, didn't expect it to work as well as it has. Imagine if someone who knows what they're doing took a crack at it!

damn they shut it down

I want to build more mining rigs but I am getting fucking ROLLED by my energy bills.

I hate this timeline.

>>51726254
Are solar panels viable for you, anon?

>>51726301
If I had the money for solar panels I'd just pay my power bill in full and then leave the country with the remainder so I no longer live under this monopolistic power provider.

>>51726301
Mobisun lets you buy solar gear with XMR, but their biggest setup tops out at 600W. For running a bunch of miners you'd want a full solar roof.

>>51717912
I Got one already it’s barely enough to keep up with the bills this is just a side hustle

>>51726822
Yeah, my PC alone consumes 850W so that wouldn't be great

Monerochan with big booba in an apron grilling you some chicken and leeks for dinner because you worked real hard 2dey

>>51727992
that's literally my fantasy