/biz/ - Business & Finance

Soiboys into this stuff have already peaked in their careers when you consider their average age and more importantly they will all drop dead from the fagcines soon leading to a huge increase in supply.

>steal mtg collector boosters
>Sell for 100% profit
Imagine giving jews of the coast your money

>is MTG dying?
Yes. Pic related.
No, I will not take my meds.

>>51621456
My career is still rising, have to disagree with you. I believe we'll see even more people getting into Pokemon TCG seeing as the younger generations continue to be interested in it. Same thing with video games.

>>51621459
Kek, nice.

>>51621481
I don't play MTG anymore but ive seen that guy. Honestly, doesn't seem OP or anything, especially in modern or something. When i was playing still, WOTC was desperately pushing midrange and creature-based play.

>>51621443
Youtubers were willing to pay for content and deduct the expense. So they bought unopened cases of cards for hundreds of thousands of dollars to make content. The cards are worthless. The content had value. Retro games are similar. Retro content has value and the expense is deductible. If you buy collectibles you are rekt.

Slow morning on Biz. I've noticed this thread picks up in the afternoon when the degenerates wake up.

>>51621785
Sure, the content is valuable. However, the collectibles themselves are obviously valuable as well. Have you ever gone into a shop dedicated to Pokemon? It's crazy. I went to one yesterday and it was full of kids, people in their 20's, people in their 30's...

I bought Rudy's 6.9 kit. I didn't really do it to make money. But at the end of the day, I probably paid $600 for a handful of random shit. Am I an idiot?

>>51621785

lol what the fuck am I even reading

My ROI averages at 145% reselling video games and I only sell the ones I don't think will hold value, everything you just wrote is doomer cope.

>>51622109

Forgot to add, I want to start moving to TCGs like Pokemon and MTG, where's the best sources for historic price tracking? I'm used to videogames but have no clue about TCGs.

I know the next big TCG that is at the ground floor, but /biz/ is completely in the dark as usual. I’m not telling what it is either because I’m still accumulating. I’m selling off all of metaZoo, pokemon, and silver to go all in.

Here are some of my most valuable metazoo cards. They're all reserv list material. Got a few more still.

>>51622146
>Sorcery: contested realms
You can't be accumulating since the kickstarter already closed down lol

>>51622244
Nope. It’s not amateurish Kickstarter shit. It will launch with a top 3 IP right out of the gate.

>>51622263
lol don't tell me you're talking about the fucking disney thing...

Guess I'll post my gamebook stack here too. I bought these from ebay over 10 years ago in big lots of books (came out to $1.50 or less per book). I managed to get all the earlier Fighting Fantasy gamebooks, except House of Hell. I kinda dropped out of ebay after they started raising fees, and I guess now these books cost a lot more, so I'm not going to get back into collecting them anytime soon.
I never really got into M:TG or other cards. Bought a single pack of M:TG when they came out around 1994, but even though I liked the art, the game itself didn't interest me. I was into tabletop RPGs at the time, specifically AD&D, but sometimes we also tried other games like d6 Star Wars, GURPS, Call of Cthulhu.

Don't know about the vintage stuff, but Pokemon purchased a printing factory a few months ago. They can reprint literally any modern sets to death and ruin all the scalpers. There's already a second wave coming for the Charizard UPC that got sold out instantly and can probably go on much longer.

>>51621443
Doesn't matter. There are fakes on par with the real ones now or better, chances are alot of yours are fake and you have no idea. Just because you think you're a pro collector doesn't mean you aren't filled with fake shit. I have a set of 1st edition WOTC holos, they're 100% the same as originals including the texture and smell. This is a dying hobby simply because of this, and once the deep fakes are rampant the company will begin diluting old sets and re-releasing.

Sorry kids.

>>51622145
https://www.pricecharting.com/category/pokemon-cards

>>51622146
What is it? I see Metazoo as the best new TCG, frankly.

>>51622203
Sick, very jealous of the Mothman's and Wendy. I have never seen that North Pole card before. But yeah, jelly, best zoo collection I've seen. Mothman is the metazoo equivalent of Charizard so expect those to go up for certain.

>>51622476
Those books are really cool. Are they worth something now? Never heard of those before. I tried playing D&D with some friends but couldn't get into it.

>>51622508
You're not wrong, however, if a modern set is any good (Evolving Skies) it will still be valuable despite reprints. People cannot get enough of ES.

>>51622618
Show me these world-class fakes then. If you spend any time in TCG's you can pretty easily spot fakes, in my experience.

>>51622476
I loved seas of blood so much

>>51622283
lmaoo that’s exactly what anon is talking about, a friend in my circle is already trying to get the hype train for that going.

>>51621443
good effort OP but these threads are always just FUD central, hard to have a cohesive and constructive thread on /biz/

>>51622618
the cards on this page are probably more than your entire net worth kek

I picked up a bunch of pokemon cards that a mum gave away. How do I look for what might be of some value? Anything specific to look for?

>>51621509
>I don't play MTG anymore but ive seen that guy. Honestly, doesn't seem OP or anything, especially in modern or something. When i was playing still, WOTC was desperately pushing midrange and creature-based play.
most formats are a tug of war between aggro and control. The only heavily midrange based format now is Alchemy.

Is combined shipping on ebay just broken right now? Why is ebay such an atrocious website?

>>51624339
Ebay is dying fren. And it makes me very sad. Member since 1999.

Speaking of eBay, what do you lads think about the TCGplayer acquisition? I’ve already switched my inventory over to eBay since the shipping discounts outweigh the fee difference and selling lots is way easier.

>>51621785
>and deduct the expense
Based CPA anon

>>51622109
>My ROI averages at 145% reselling video games
That's great anon? I'm willing to bet Logan Paul made a cool 10x on his purchase and he got to deduct the expense on his taxes

>>51623895
Lol, yeah for sure. I am going to try and keep it going for a bit to try since it's not a big deal to keep the thread up and check on it. Appreciate you. And holy kek, crazy page right there. Probably should get those sleeved and in top loaders fren.

>>51624308
You want to look for holo's, EX, V, VMAX, and full-art cards and then check prichecharting/Ebay for value.

>>51624704
Ebay is definitely super gay compared to what it used to be. I flip things on ebay and having to report $600+ income to the IRS makes me want to quit.

>>51624805
I sell everything on ebay regardless but I actually didn't know they acquired TCGPlayer.

Ebay keeps trying to push their Vault thing, which i don't even understand desu.

>>51621443
>tfw I gave all my Pokémon cards to my little cousin when I was in high school
>I had a lot of 1st edition cards from when I was a kid
>now all I have is a large collection of yu-gi-oh cards but even the rarest ones aren’t worth shot because no one cares about yu-gi-oh
>the most expensive one is worth about $80, but I can’t be assed to have it graded/certified
pain

>>51625260
like most anons i got pissed at them for fucking me on a $400 international order and a $100 domestic order because of the shit postal service and moved all my business to tcgplayer but now i’m just giving up and liquidating any remaining crap i have worth something

>>51621459>>51621459
>steal mtg collector boosters

how

>>51621481
wow thats actually a really good card whats your complaint? i havent played in a long time, i thought you were going to point out some SJW faggotry about it but im not seeing any on that card you posted

>>51623331
>What is it? I see Metazoo as the best new TCG, frankly.
Lorcana by Disney

what do people see in metazoo lmao?

Instead of your basic ass 1st Ed vintage I invest in error vintage, picked this up, there’s only a dozen in the world that have ever been on market

Error cards are more niche but definitely has seen a big increase in demand since the explosion but these cards have always demanded higher prices, next up is non holo holo error dragonite from team rocket set

>>51625648
Honestly out of all the cards since Kaladesh/Eldraine that could have been posted that was probably the most benign. This fucker on the other hand warped every possible format and was honestly the sign that R&D/playtesting just flat out stopped checking cards before printing food token is gain 3 for 2 mana

just sold some Dreamcast games for 400$

>>51628459
nice, which ones? planning to get the VM2 if you still have your console?

>>51628432
that was 2019…..magic is alive and well despite the way you personally feel about the game.

>>51621443
I'll take my odds on collectibles and tangible equities over meme stocks and electric chuck e cheese tokens.

>>51628511
Sold everything but Sonic, Shenmue and Sega Bass Fishing.

No im selling because after playing DC upscaled on my series S there's no point other than nostalgia. Sega Bass Fishing is prob the funnest game of the lot. I have another Dreamcast with Virtua Striker for my nostalgia. The console noise is my childhood sound.

Just googled VM2, lol would never pay 100$ for that. Most games barely even use VMU other than sonic amd a few others that had some animations

Anyone got info on the One Piece Card game? Is it out in English yet? Any money to be made? Might buy some boosters anyway

>>51632491
Decent hype. I think it will be just as successful a Dragon Ball Super TCG. Some very high value cards in the first set.

Don't see it denting the big 3 but should have enough following to make some money.

Iam going all in on the charizard collection box (if I can get some)

>>51625775
Begone you fucking moron.
You think there's money to be made on the mass produced shit that will come out from disney lol. The only one making money on that will be disney itself as they reprint marvel globohomo bullshit to mars and back.

>>51632685
Should I get he booster sets japanese or english ya think?

>>51623331
>I see Metazoo as the best new TCG, frankly.
For more serious stuff, check out Sorcery:contested realms but I agree. Metazoo isn't going anywhere.

>>51632491
I’ll be buying a case when released one piece has a decent fan base so should go up in price

>>51632685
>>51633141
Wonder if the game is any fun. I like that the use the manga art. Think they're doing a "Super Pre Release Event" so might try to get in on that

>>51632882
>>51633225
I'd say its worth the risk. First printed sets usually do very well for any TCG. Don't really know which language to focus on but english usually holds a higher premium for most TCGs.

The biggest draw for this TCG is the exclusive artwork produced by the people who do the manga. They are painting brand new illustrations just for the TCG.

This nami card is selling for $$350+ and is one of those exclusive illustrations. Believe or not its not even the chase card of the set.

>>51629513
that was just one example but clearly if every format-warping card from emrakul, aeons torn to new boseiju didn’t bother you by all means have fun with your weekly secret lairs and 6 different sealed product per set and rotating modern and legacy formats
record profits!
>>51632252
whoa good stuff, as a fighting game fan I could go on about virtual on and power stone, as for the gum i was thinking about getting one mainly to have chao adventure on not dated hardware but you’re right for the same money i could get one of those sweet 25th anniversary v-pets or a vital bracelet
>>51632845
lorcana is honestly the only game that will threaten mtg/pkmn/ygo in terms of sales but 1) we have no idea if the game is even good and 2) it doesn’t matter because we have officially jumped the shark and there will probably be a massive tcg crash soon just like the 90s
>>51633093
hot take: both metazoo, sorcery and every other hypebeast kickstarter tcg is going nowhere, even the lone indie top-10 tcg flesh and blood is struggling and calling attendance keeps slipping
>>51632882
english for sure, bandai somehow doesn’t have solid logistics for a company of their size and those boosters will be very hard to find at first

>>51633436
Damn thats wild, wonder if I can still buy anywhere. Think all the pre orders are gone

>>51633225
I don't even play cards or watch One Piece and there's a release event happening at a comic shop near me. Should I go?

>>51624805
As a seller on both it almost certainly means higher fees on tcg player. and it’s obvious tcg players acquisition of Channel Fireball was at the behest of EBay who is trying to monopolize the card selling market. Hopefully they bring $.50-$1 standard envelopes with tracking to tcg player. It’s too easy to lie on tcg and say your card never came because there’s no tracking for most cards.

>>51621509
>Honestly, doesn't seem OP or anything, especially in modern or something.
That the point. Compare it to twenty years ago, ten years ago, even five years ago and it would truly astonishing.
>>51625648
It's an amazing card by historical standards. Downright unplayable in any format because it doesn't immediateoy replace itself, have haste, or have protection from counterspells/removal

6/6 for 5, that's already a discount. Has four positive abilities. But it's unplayable in competitive, because power creep has gotten that bad.
How many 5/5 for five creatures have been rendered irrelevant due to this objectively better card. What reason is there to ever slot a green fatty in your deck that is worse than this one?
By printing this strictly better card, WotC made 100+ cards in the past strictly worse. This is the poison of power creep.
Power will continue to creep because WotC has gone to the dogs, and Maro is a silver tongued liar.
Any good card you buy today will be worth less and less in the future, not just because they get power creeped by new variations, but also because the vast majority of players don't want to have to replace half their deck every block just to compete.

>>51622263
One piss :)

Will the pokewalker from Soul Silver/Heart Gold be worth something in the future?

>>51621509
I think you are missing on board games. One sector that's still undervalued and it is springing forth. Gamestar+ is revolutionizing the industry with streaming tech and more entertainment.

>>51622203
>Headless Annie

Based sir you have a good collection

magic is dying fast, and everyone is jumping ship already

>>51621443
Also guys new game coming out soon I backed their Kickstarter it's called Academy of Arts

>>51630940
Neo shinies, very nice. Lot of overlap with PM people and TCG it seems (I would never buy PM personally)

>>51632252
Great games right there. Shenmue is one of my favorite. Might have to try the fishing game lol.

>>51632491
I've been hearing about this one. I love One Piece and considering it is the best selling manga of all time, might be worth speculating on.

>>51633436
Wow, thanks for the insight. Going to def keep my eye on this.

>>51635954
No, not really. Maybe up to $20 for people trying to make a complete copy.

>>51638208
Interesting. I'll check Gamestar+. There's so much competition in board games, seems to me.

bump

>>51621443
has anyone here tried god unchained

>>51635064
It’s pretty clear Maro is beyond jaded by hasbro shenanigans and is just going through the motions. The real death will happen when he finally retires and gavin who has only known the wrong way to design cards steps in.
>>51640678
isn’t that some nft bullshit that went nowhere

>>51638262
got some more

>>51640986
Cards are selling on the marketplace, so it seems active. I heard Gamestop will be launching on their marketplace.

>>51625624
not that anon but I steal yugioh shit by using the self checkout at Walmart.

>>51622476
>Fighting Fantasy gamebooks

these are the choose your own adventure books?

How are my wow bros doing?

>>51641224
No those are different gamebook series entirely. There's actually quite a few different ones, and probably thousands of gamebooks in total.
I have a few dozen Fighting Fantasy books (including their 4-book "Sorcery" saga) but only have #2 of the Choose Your Own Adventure books. Someone on a prior /pmg/ thread posted his collection that's got dozens of them (top shelf on the left in pic).

>>51623331
Apparently those books go for a lot on ebay nowadays. I didn't check, and I haven't use ebay in a very long time (in fact my account expired because I didn't log in for years).
But I can't say I'm surprised if these books cost a lot now, because most "retro" stuff is in a bubble. Otherwise I'd be buying old computers, games, books, and other cool stuff.

>>51623757
I played it long ago (late 80's) and don't remember a thing about it. But that'll just make it more fun to play again. The only one I played recently is Forest of Doom, and I got slaughtered by some bandits on my way out near the north of the forest. These books are pretty deadly if you're honest and don't cheat. Especially so if you had bad luck with your character generation and ended up with shit stats.

>>51642957
Anyway here's #2 of the "real" Choose Your Own Adventure series (Journey Under the Sea). Got into these in the early-mid 80's, they were basically the first gamebooks. Around the same time I also played my first computer text advetures, and those were a lot of fun too!

So I know buying boxes in order to pull cards is basically retarded, but I have gotten two evolving wilds booster boxes and havent gotten shit. Not to mention that I purchased a few BBs a year or so ago and got jack shit. Evolving wilds is the most bullshit set of any card game I have purchased.
That is all.

>>51642957
Based

I just started learning and play MTG Arena. I have no clue past the basics but winning matches with these starter decks is endless fun so far. I'm not paying for fucking cardboard that's mass printed or playing lottery with drafts.

Any plans for an electronic version of metazoo or flesh and blood? I wouldn't mind supporting a cheaper card game.

That Disney game is gonna be marketed as if it's the new pokemon and quietly forgotten. Normies have to migrate to new things.

Signed shadowless. Was psa 9 when I took it out of the shell.
Wonder what it's worth now.

>>51642957
Didn't spectral tiger come in those???

>>51645600
>>51645268

>Be an Interplanetary Spy
I loved these in the 80's. They were like CYOAs but better.

>>51646590
Was awesome...

Comic flipper here. I dont hop on /biz/ that often but its Super cool to see a thread like this so i'll provide some insights

Yes, TCGS, sports cards, all collectibles are basically dead right now.

>why?

Well to understand that, you gotta understand why collectibles make for a decent way to store capital. They perform a little like stocks except they have an insanely low float. There usually is never a ton of one collectible available for sale at any point in time. So even small gains in demand can cause the price to rise dramatically.

The other secret to success is that these things are easy to store, easy to hold and they often have emotional components to them. You don't see a lot of AF15's floating around because people WANT to own spiderman's first appearance. which acts sort of like a gas pedal on the price of a book like that.


Right now the collectible markets sobered up and realized that they are MASSIVELY overcapitalized. Things are just worth way too goddamn much. So now the prices are theoretically falling. I say theoretically because it takes volume of sale to "price in" an adjustment. Stocks are easy because there are thousands of transactions a day for most stocks. people make money long and short so there is a lot of incentive to buy and sell all over the place.

Collectibles don't have that. Negative changes in price bring the volume of sales down, which means that it takes longer for the market to adjust and adapt to negative price adjustments. People have to die/get sick, collections need to be liquidated, etc.


The forecast? A lot of crabbing as these low volume markets bleeds their excess capitalization at a snails pace plus the usual downturn in activity that you see during recessions. Assume these shitty lowball offers you've been getting won't seem to be so bad a year from now.

>>51646025
fugg :DD

>>51621456
based

>>51645741
Have fun in casual magic while you can.
Maybe get a friend into it and face off with cheap $6 meme decks you build from a commons bin
Also, once you start to learn how the game is played, I highly recommend playing Shandalar. It's a single player mtg game where you wander around with your deck and face off creatures to get more cards and gold. It's a broken, buggy piece of shit, but it lets you play mtg like it was back in the day, meaning power nine, strip mine, black vise, mishras factory, ancestral recall. And then you'll laugh when your shit gets pushed in by a scryb sprite with divine transformation enchanted on it

>>51647289
Thanks anon, I'll check that out!

>>51645741
/bgg/ likes to shill sakura arms. Its a 2 player dueling game with sets. Its fairly cheap and the game is very fun if you like deck building. Finding players is an issue.

Netrunner is a dead card game, which is currently being printed by a 3rd party iirc. It s quite deep and the cards are sold in predetermined chunks. Again finding players is difficult

>>51621443
Any Metazoo buyers?
Its basically pokemon with Cryptids. It started on kickstarter and blew up earlier this year on tiktok

>>51647627
damn i should have read the thread first

>>51647627
Metazoo is a shitcoin in tcg form. You should look into some of the controversy with Topps. The company clearly does not care about the game being accessible to potential players either.

>>51623895
Such a random array of cards to flex. The duals make sense but all the other random crap? Don't tell me these are your top 9 cards anon. . .

>>51645741
Hearthstone illustrated years ago that physical card games were not going to be around for much longer. Digital card games are overall a better product and they have the ability to do things that physical card games cant do (like randomly generate a card that is not in either players decks). At this point we're just waiting for the game to emerge that really illustrates just how much better a fully digital experience can actually be.

>>51647801
Hearthstone is for retards though.

>>51641140
HOW, NIGGER?

>>51622106
I like Rudy and was interested in buying the 6.9 kit but ultimately didn't though I do own an alpha investments shirt so that's cool also fuck mtglion.

>>51621443
what can i get for these bad boys

>>51650226
>tree fiddy

Im debating on just buying a few hobby boxes of prizm and calling it a day

>>51650226
these are cursed

>>51647779
imagine solely caring about value and not appreciating the assortment of beautiful old cards, and nah my binder isn’t sorted at all, and i play with my cards so most of my good shit is in my decks. also all of these cards listed are NM

>>51647801
>Hearthstone illustrated years ago that physical card games were not going to be around for much longer.
>Hearthstone came out in 2014
>every single physical cards game is still around, and more have come out since
seriously where the FUCK do these brain dead room temperature iq niggers come from and why are they so drawn to these threads

>Has Pokemon peaked?

Yes, same as crypto.
When the quarantine stopped being important normies went back to touch grass leaving aside all those collect hobbies they saw on social media and tried to copy during the confinement. Now you have exactly zero demand, wait for the next pandemic to sell everything.

As far as SNES games go I have CIB Chrono Trigger and Gaia. Used to have LOTR cib as well but sold it.


Wish there was a general for antique collections though I have one of the best on /biz/ with that. Or maybe just top 20.

>>51621443
You ruined TCGS
Death to the reserved list

>>51623331
>What is it? I see Metazoo as the best new TCG, frankly
MetaZoo is the next Pokemom; Flesh and Blood is the next Magic the Gathering.

Both are great to play and collect. I don't believe MTG will die however WOTC has the game on a downward slope.

Meanwhile Pokémon is just played out at this point.

I have a 50k collection of tcg products. I enjoy the hobby.

I recommend all anons who want to jump in purchase Kickstarter MetaZoo cards; and Welcome to Rathe Alpha (first edition) Flesh and Blood cards.

Feel free to ask questions and I will provide further guidance. Would love more anons to jump into the hobby. It's amazingly fun and can be profitable.

>>51645741
>Any plans for an electronic version of metazoo or flesh and blood?

MetaZoo you can play on TTS (Table Top Simulator) but you need you get into a mz server to find matches which can be annoying. MZ is planning to create an official tcg client on par with mtgarena here soon.

There is a new online site to play flesh and blood called Talishar.net
The ui is pretty clunky but the site is otherwise functional and I'm able to find marches at any hour of the day.

FYI, I've been Mythic in Mtg Arena. Don't waste your time on that game. FAB and MZ are light-years better.

>>51647120
Your entire take is awful. Collectibles are essentially high risk assets and volatile in nature. The vast majority of investible assets became bear markets in the last year and collectibles were no exception.

The only point you were correct on is wild spice swings can occur based on relatively low volume. Collectible portfolios will return juicy multipliers during the next bull market.

>>51621443
i have a cgc 9 machamp 1st edition, found it in an old trainer box i had. apparently they're super common so it's only good for a few hundred $
i think pokemon will peak in a couple more decades as some millennials get older and richer

>>51651350
>I recommend all anons who want to jump in purchase Kickstarter MetaZoo cards
What makes these so special?
I have touched metazoo btw just curious

I wish I could short sell metazoo

>>51651537
>What makes these so special?
MetaZoo KickStarter cards are essentially first edition Pokémon cards, except even rarer. The only way to acquire the KS cards at release was to fund MetaZoo from its initial KickStarter Campaign that ended in the summer of 2020 iirc.

Here is a link where you can find more relevant information:

https://metazoohq.com/faqs#hfaq-post-5309

I might add: whats great about MZ is the team behind it is dedicated to transparency and collectibility. They are very open with print runs and what their plans in the future are.

>>51651529
Iirc there was a promo Machamp and all of them were stamped 1st edition. You likely have one of these and they are relatively without value. Definetly not a few hundred even if a psa 10.

If your Machamp is shallowness however it's worth a few hundred bucks.

>>51622146
It’s the one with the German name

>>51651649
Are there any cards that were one per case (1 card per 12 booster boxes)?

>>51650819
>because prices aren’t skyrocketing there is 0 demand
weird how 30 minutes ago i was in a bid war against 6 other people for an obscure graded card then. fuck off

>>51651275
invest in $ROPE

>>51651475
this.

>>51651529
i agree. i’m 30 with a career, and my collection isn’t anywhere near where i’d like it to be, and the prices aren’t anywhere near where i want to let what i have go.

>>51622146
The TCG ship has sailed. Any game without an established market already is doomed, especially now that most of the tcg community is already invested in their games of choice.

The tcg field is feeble and great companies will fail simply because the current market state is bad and their timing was off.

It also doesn't help that numerous kickstarter tcgs have outright scammed their founders and big stories have dropped on this topic over the last few months. Even sorcery pushed back the release date of their products because they were unable to secure a contract with cartamundi on a workable timescale. Now they are having their cards printed in China and backers are pissed.

>>51651850
>Are there any cards that were one per case (1 card per 12 booster boxes)?
The big hitters in kickstarter will be Mothman, full holos in general, and any of the reserve list cards.

If you want the ultra rare cards, I recommend looking into red ink / blue ink/ / old scratch / and the green man.

These cards aren't from KS, but they are 1 /100 iirc and each is worth thousands.

So.. is this general about any other "collectibles" or is this just a /vp/ scapegoat thread not allowed over there?

>>51645741
>I'm not paying for fucking cardboard that's mass printed or playing lottery with drafts.

>>51647289
>face off with cheap $6 meme decks you build from a commons bin

>>51651275

holy shit i thought this was the business and finance board not the poorfag and typical seething /tg/ poster board.

>>51632845
Retard

There is a promo card set with a print run of only 900, and I own 1% of the print run. Stay poor

FUCK JUMPSTART
FUCK RUDY
FUCK SALES TAX

Are shoes worth getting into selling? I keep hearing about people hitting 4x their money in the space of like 2 years.

>>51652177
>sealed nujotc trash
>falling for rudyberg's tricks
NGMI fren

Feel comfy having a big fat old foils collection i bought before the spike ngl

>>51634328
I think most pre orders are sold out now, so the event may be the only way to get cards, I'd say go for it, that's what I'm doing

>>51651997
reading the thread explains the thread. it’s for all collectibles that are vehicles for monetary gain.

>>51652177
LOL i also fell for the jumpstart rudy pump and dump. my records indicate i bought a box for $190 ;-;

>>51652267
>>51652322
that is definitely a comfy position. i started buying out NM odyssey foil basics around 2021 and have easily 3x my money.

Did anyone preorder some singles from the W40K commander decks?
Personally i couldn't resist and got myself few dozens of pic related. It was on sale for only 3 bux on first day, seemed too low for a card who's banking on an ability who got tons of supports lately (tokens' production) and who is a self value enabler + infinite comboer with common pieces like ashnod's altar and nadir kraken.
So far it's a good bet as the preoders are now at 6 bux min, but i fear the demand for this set will be crazy high due to the hype and i end up getting fucked.

>>51651275
Who gives a shit? Unless you're wanting to play competitively just proxy everything

>>51652454
>i started buying out NM odyssey foil basics around 2021 and have easily 3x my money
Nice low risk-good reward position fren. Can't really go wrong with old foil basics, and now they are quite difficult to find in good condition too.
I expect ppl to get fed up soon enough with all the new "special" basics jotc is sharting out almost on a weekly basis, and a nostalgia fueled revulsion for new trash will push the old pimp lands higher.
I myself have quite a few of them, even though i mostly targeted the basics from 7th and Invasion.

>>51652267
>french mtg
really?

>no booba on an anime forum

Paid 1$ for each of these little buddies

>>51652982
Very nice, I own a ghost rare Omnimon and it has been going up a lot lately

There is going to be a new ghost rare coming out next month I wonder if it will bottom at 400 like Omnimon did

>>51653046
Jelly AF. I don't invest in many cards over 50$ so I didn't go for him. I'd just much rather buy a bunch of 10-20$ cards because I like collecting so much. I started selling on tcgplayer recently - getting rid of my non max rarity cards and picking up alt arts- its been amazing. I've flipped 2$ digimon prerelease cards for 40$ in just a couple months. Reinvesting has snow-balled so quickly - along with doing research for the right cards. Best side business / hobby alongside music gear.

Here's some original digimon demo cards. Not worth much atm...so if you're a fan I'd cop em

>>51653046
Also in case you haven't seen the anime alt arts

>>51653164
He was 1 per 20 cases so it was a must for me.
Alphamon will probably be the same, I don't think I am going to buy on release day though because he is less known than Omnimon and Omni did crash hard during the first few months.

>>51653199
I'm familiar with all the arts my favourite being the BT-06 alt one with his waifu

>>51653333
Good taste good taste. I remember seeing omnimon sold on tcgplayer pre-sale for like 50$? There were 3 of them sold at that price i think in a day. The recent sales history never disappeared - they generally do if returned. I've always wondered if they got delivered.

sports fag coming through

>>51629513
Damn I want that Dratini as phone cover

Lets keep having this thread, I love trading cards but haven't photographed many.
I want to get Ragnarok Online point-charger cards, but they're never on eBay.

>>51655112
now this is podracing

>>51652139
game isn't even out lol

>>51652764
It might come to be a shock for you, but the US aren't the only country on planet earth. I know, i know... you need some time to digest it. But it's true nonetheless.

>>51652924
i have a pretty healthy collection of Force of Will sealed and singles.

>>51651076
Antiques are a fantastic way to make some money, and to decorate your place and self like a gentleman with some class. I dabble a bit into this and the vintage market for profit and things to keep at the same time, honestly I multiply my money constantly off the things I buy around here. No idea why biz is avoiding this opportunity, it's literally selling items to the rich, old people, museums, and foundations for massive returns, preferring to buy things that are only selling to a few wealthier people in their 30s-40s instead of the ones that drop 5k on a ugly piece of art or a shiny piece of costume jewelry. Good on you for having some of your favorite snes games, Gaia will always be a gem.

>>51652514
Last time I played magic was 12 years ago so I don't know enough to buy the right singles but I could tell the W40K decks are going to be hot so I actually bought 3 deck sets. 1 regular set to play and mess around with, 1 regular set to put in storage for a couple years and then the 3rd is a collector set that will also being going in storage. I'm sure they'll appreciate in value very nicely especially if that W40K movie that Henry Cavill keeps pushing for gets made.

>>51645600
Wow, super cool man. That copy of The Hobbit is beautiful.

>>51647120
Thanks for your input. I know next to nothing about comic books. I think your view on collectibles reflects the larger asset 'bubbles' we're seeing in traditional markets. I am still very bullish on collectibles for the reason that I believe nostalgia is going to command a premium in the Information Age and with rising wages and standards of living globally, more and more people will pour money into these things.

>>51647627
Yes, lots of MZ folks here, love to see it.

>>51650226
First time seeing GPK here since I've started this thread lol. Funny enough, my GF, a 24 yr old Zoomer, loves these things. These are the OG's right? Probably worth something but have no clue desu. I showed her these and she was jelly.

>>51650819
I went into a Pokemon TCG store this weekend and based on that, it's far from dead. People from all ages geeking out over cardboard. They had a whole room of people in the back playing digimon or some shit lol.

>>51651076
I flip things on ebay and dabble in antiques very little. That is a beautiful ring though anon.

>>51651350
I agree with you. I think Metazoo needs to push into anime/video games to extended their footprint but after cracking packs and watching gameplay, yeah there's something about this game. I am very excited for it. So far, i only have some Nightfall, Wilderness, and UFO cards. I will definitely have to pick stuff up from the Kickstarter, just started with MZ like a week ago lol.

Should i just buy a sealed 1st edition cryptid nation? I see them for like $500.

>>51651997
Feel free to post about any collectible you like.

>>51655112
Never seen those, neat. I'm going to keep thread going.

What's the charizard/black lotus of Metazoo?

>>51659308
some people have said Mothman

>>51659308
Mothman and Prism Aura.

Anyone else buy pokemon booster packs at Dollar General?
They are $3.50, cheapest Ive ever seen. They sell out quick.

>>51652267
>>51652322
>>51652622
Very nice man! Post some more porn for us old-school stackers!

>>51659308
Current latest mothman chase is the Hiroquest zombie mothman. If you are willing to take a chance on a 30-40 pack you could get one. This price I attached was an outlier most of the other recent ones have been 400-500

>>51659521
>Anyone else buy pokemon booster packs at Dollar General?
I have but it's not ideal. Modern pokemon is not something that should be perceived as an investment. Buy vintage cards if the newer tcgs with bright futures aren't appealing to you.

How much?

>>51659071
>Should i just buy a sealed 1st edition cryptid nation? I see them for like $500.
Kickstarter MetaZoo booster boxes will be the premium vintage product in the future imo. If you can afford it I'd recommend joining metazoo buy/sell groups and try to pick one up for around 2k - 4k. If that is out of your range the crypto nation first edition will age nicely as well. I'd compare mz cn 1e to shadowless pokemon cards.

>>51660230
>Modern pokemon is not something that should be perceived as an investment
>evolving skies stacked to the literal sky with alt pulls

Yeah sure bud, moonbreon is going to 1k raw

>>51660367
Now tell me how the last 5 - 10 pokemon sets are fairing? The Pokémon company has the explicit right to reprint the fuck out of any modern pokemon product. In fact they already reprinted evolving skies and likely will again in the future.

That's what's great about games like metazoo and even flesh and blood. Mz announces upfront what their print runs will be then the set is out of print; and flesh and blood announces when a set is out of print.

Meanwhile the higher any modern pokemon goes the more likely it will be reprinted.

>>51660472
False the set will go out of rotation in a couple of years, the last reprint got eaten like a whale eating plankton and you have no clue what you are talking about. They are not going to reprint Astral Radiance, Brilliant Stars or Evo Skies or fuck probably even Chilling Pain so much that holding a box for 5-10 years wont be a GURANTEED 2-3x in value if not more. Go look at sun and moon set, sure base sun and moon is only at around 250-300 per box but team up is going for EASILY 1k a box because it is so popular a set and NO they will not be reprinting it because the era is OVER

>>51657086
Any suggestions on how to get started selling to foundations or museums? I have some great pieces but besides selling on eBay I have no clue. I have been told auction houses might be a good place but if I could directly sell to a museum that would be great. >>51659071
Thanks here’s another

>>51660621
>False the set will go out of rotation in a couple of years,
And the Pokémon Company reserves the right to reprint anything at their discretion

>They are not going to reprint Astral Radiance, Brilliant Stars or Evo Skies
They already have reprinted these sets and if market conditions were better and these sets were increasing in a noticeable way they would be reprinted even more.

>Go look at sun and moon set, sure base sun and moon is only at around 250-300 per box but team up is going for EASILY 1k a box because it is so popular a set and NO they will not be reprinting it because the era is OVER
Your problem is you are only focusing on the 1 or 2 sets that are doing well over the last 20 - 30 sets that were printed in the same timeline.

Modern Pokemom is a dogshit investment and aside from 1 of 2 cards per set, the newer cards are all generic and soulless. Most of the tcg whales abandoned pokemon because there are better games with more upside available nowadays.

>>51621443
Invest in Panini

Not a single mention of Parellel Alpha? Yikes.

>>51660704
Talking out your ass man, if the cards are desirable people will go for the set. Am I telling people to invest in shit like battle styles? That's why i think evo skies, brilliant and astral will do well and yeah sure the pokemon company reserve the right to print anything going back to BASE SET but will they? Absolutely not and saying they could is just disingenuous when historically they have allowed sets to go out of print.

>>51660472
Moderns barrier to entry is so much lower and, depending on the product, has so much potential for growth.

Japan modern is what I'm heavily invested in. For example the eevee heroes gym set was going for about $250 when it first came out last year. Now you are hard pressed to find one under $650.

Even sets like tag Allstars, which is only a couple years old, have seen 300% + growth.

>>51660247
Is that German? Probably $5

>>51621443
Started a telegram channel for anons that want to keep talking TCG's

t me/+MvWeBnD3lss5NzUx

>>51660812
>Parellel Alpha
>faggot shit
no fucken thanks.

>>51660949
Join the tg if you wanna chat cards

>>51621443
This reminds me of playing board games such as Scene It? These are the types of cardboard games that need to be transformed to Web 3.0 gaming just like Gamestar+ is revolutionizing the board games industry

>>51660732
What's Panini? Unless it's more of P2E. Board game like you know.

>>51660247
Ah yes, Glurak, he was an pokemon.

>>51660317
Thanks fren.

>>51660367
>>51660621
>>51660814
>>51660704
I think you're both right. There's no doubt that Evolving Skies is going to go down as a chase set. There is actually a reprint coming/recently dropped for the set but yes, it has been gobbled up and for good reason. The moonbreon may actually go to 1k in the long run.

But in general, a lot of the modern sets have been lacking and won't be worth keeping sealed product of.

>>51660845
This is good alpha, thanks.

>>51660949
Nice. I don't have tg but will keep these threads going.

>>51661775
lmao, Glurak.

>>51621443
Metazoo right now is doing ok. Its really funny to see how much hate it gets but at least the team makes their print runs available.
>sample cards
rarest ones, ideal collecting. only like 100 of each card or something.
>Kickstarter MZ
good investment
>CN1
most of the full holos here are collectable, good hold
>Nightfall
the whole set is underrated, people need to stock up on it
>Wilderness
not a good set. too big a print run, only one good card that sells for $70 in the whole set
>UFO
still not too great but not as bad as wilderness

all promos and limited items are definitely worth collecting.

Sorcery:contested realms is going to be a big hit I feel, it looks tight.
The Disney TCG might be good if its done right but who knows.

right now MZ is top dog in indie card games. Flesh and blood is really more for playing than collecting. Neat game but I would'nt collect or hold it.

>>51651982
Hey Anon, I just looked at MetaZoo and it looks pretty cool, I want in. Any advice for someone starting out on what packs to buy?

>>51659317
>>51659338
>>51660218
There are a bunch of mothmans, which in specific?

>>51663506
see
>>51662231
I bought a UFO pack locally. The only card I really wanted was Polybius which i got.
Walmart sells them.

>>51664435
All the sets with a mothman

Kickstarter
Kickstarter Blister Promo
CN1
CN1 Blister Promo
Nightfall
CN2
CN2 Blister Promo
Magicast (Has two a butterfly style mothman and a kid in a mothman costume)
Cryptid Nation REVIVE
Nightfall REVIVE
Hiroquest

I would highly rec keeping an eye on Magicast mothman if you can. Print run was between 5-10k roughly with 5 packs per box and the price has held steady since release. Another good one is the Nightfall mothman which is steady 40-60 on ebay. I recently picked up a RH mothman for 50 bucks, now is the time to scoop them cheap. Avoid CN2 for now unless you buy the boxes sealed it isn't worth holding the singles.

I dumped all of my Metazoo because I simply don’t believe it has a future. The only way I see it having a chance is if they force Mike out. And even then you still only have the same couple thousand people buying the product over and over. I don’t see how Metazoo is bringing in new people with anything that they do.

>>51665166
I have to agree with you in regards to metazoo. I like the idea, but it really just seems like crypto shit coins in card form.
I just do not like the investment first mentality for a long lasting card game.

>>51660672
Anything of extremely high value will have to get a appraisal for said piece, then you have to start manually contacting auction houses with this info to find one that does really well selling said type of items, look into their past sales on similar items to see the prices they normally fetch.

>>51665166
I wish they could force him out. I think the recent lead Art head stepped down cause mike is too demanding. Shame because the artwork and concept is legit. I am still holding and still bullish but I wouldn't blame anyone for dumping after all the shit that faggot owner has done

YOUR CARDBOARD IS WORTHLESS

>>51665012
This is one card I am keeping a close eye on the price movement. Hiroquest had a 30k print run, each pack only has 1 card

What's a good game to buy up boosters and hold into for 5 years?

>>51665570
If you want a really safe investment and looking for pokemon just do your best to get a good allocation of Charizard UPC coming out soon.

>>51662231
>right now MZ is top dog in indie card games. Flesh and blood is really more for playing than collecting
[citation needed]

>>51660126
Ok fren!

My favorite creature

A classic for the black Chads

Some 7th painlands (super rare nowaday)

I've too many to post, so another favorite of mine and i stop. Request specific cards if you want more (can't guarantee i'll have it tho).

I found 5 packs of unopened shadowless Pokémon Base Set blister packs, my father bought them and had them all this time. All great condition. What should I do

Guys what are the next Magic singles to go up

I don’t want to be left behind anymore

>>51667864
get them graded

I got a few boxed n64 games and a few rare ps2 games that I bought just holding on a hunch but I'm sure i can at least turn a small profit. Pic rel

Most expensive thing I have is Authentic Super Bowling for N64 which is about 1k$. If I kept the box sealed it would of been worth 10k.

>he doesn't know about Disney cards
>older than magic alpha
>older than pokemon
>recognizable characters loved by funko pop collector types with disposable incomes
>1 single print run
>ebay buying TCGplayer and looking for more types of cards to shill
>boxes cost less than jumpstart
>currently undiscovered and waiting to pop

If just a small group of people buys out the ittie bittie supply or shills the normies just a tad this shit is going to explode

>>51669322
some certified classics there. those should definitely be printing in the next run.

>>51669430
>learns about disney cards
>doesn’t care just doesn’t buy them anyways
>old as shit
>older than shit
>recognizable characters loved by babies and toddlers
>single print run
>nobody cares to the point that boxes are cheaper than jumpstart
>still doesn’t care
thanks for sharing! i encourage you to take the leap of faith and corner the market on this undiscovered treasure

>>51669430
thats just crap.

>>51669322
Mystical ninja for Super Nes is one of my all time favorite games. How was this N64 game?

>>51669579
>that's crap
>posts games you can literally get for free

>>51669609
I would still rather have the games over those lame ass cards.

>>51621443
how expensive are the machines that make holographic cards?

>>51669322
the rarer these things become, the more people are just going to either give up on collecting them, focus more on improving and getting the code 100% compiled and making them better than the originals, learning how to repackage for cheaper for people that want the nostlagia of physical consoles over emulators, people who think these are valuable still have a consumer mindset not a finance one, it's the materials themselves that matter and before long you'll be able to recreate these old nostalgia products for nothing and better than the originals

>>51647801
>generate a card that is not in either players decks
those are called tokens, also physical is better for social aspects, it's one of the last remaining hobby's that gets people out and meeting others at local shops

>>51630940
shining tyranitar is one of my favorites, still have him, and rocket's mewtwo which turned out to not be as rare as I thought it was as a kid but I still think having 3 attacks was the coolest thing ever

>>51669988
>the rarer these becomes the more people will give up on collecting them
>doesn’t understand how supply and demand affects pricing

>people who think these are valuable still have a consumer mindset
>doesn’t understand his customer base

any other retarded takes you’d like to share? what does your collectible portfolio look like?

I've got a shadowless charizard and unlimited blastoise, plus a few other random shadowless and unlimited. I'll probs wait another 20 years before selling anything

>>51669609
> free GBA games
Tell me more, I have a DS Lite and no games for it.

>>51671212
emulators sir.

I have some t-shirts which are from the late 90s that are "Official Pokemon Trainer" shirts that official tournament judges wore. I cannot find another photo of these shirts for the life of me on the web. I'd really love to know exactly what year they are from and if it was a regional shirt design or national tournament design. Some of those "vintage" 90s pokemon shirts sell for a chunk of change and I might have a rare gem, but I can't seem to find any other info on it.

>>51621443
Not cards but I'm buying a few model cars that I expect will rise in a year or two.

>>51660247
probably a few kilo if graded well based off ebay comps

>>51660732
all new panini stuff is overprinted garbage that will be worth nothing eventually with few exceptions (your Ronaldo auto for example)

>>51660621
>guaranteed 2-3x
kek, sure thing mate

>>51625260
I do ebay as my second job and I was doing the taxes back when it was $20k+. It's tedious but doable.

>>51630940
Based collectible and pm chad

>>51660814
Less than 1% of pokemon products/cards have any real value. Opening pokemon booster boxes is almost always disastrous from an ev perspective. The chance of earning a positive return on cracking pokemon products is exceedingly rare. Even the pokemon youtubers that open pokemon sealed everyday point this out. It's no secret. I don't think you're being very persuasive pointing out the 1 cards/products that are desirable out of 100 products that are worthless. If pokemon is your thing then that's fine but holding any of the modern stuff is extremely risky, especially after the pokemon company announced they printed BILLIONS of pokemon cards throughout the covid Era.

>>51673352
based and truthpilled

>>51663506
>Hey Anon, I just looked at MetaZoo and it looks pretty cool, I want in. Any advice for someone starting out on what packs to buy?

If you want to play metazoo, id recommend getting the dingbelle cn2 themedeck to start, and perhaps a booster box of each metazoo set.

You may want to checkout websites such as the castersociety.com in order to get ideas concerning what decks you could build.

The next metazoo set: seance is going to introduce dual auras. This will disrupt the mz meta significantly as there are 10 different auras which can be blended together.

As it stands the Metazoo 2023 Casters Cup (basically the world championship) is planning 1.25million in prize support. $500,000 going to the first place winner alone.

No other tcgs offer anything close to these amounts and the plan is to increase the prize pool each year. The team at metazoo is aiming for global reach and plans to be around for decades.

Anyways, if you're asking what product to buy you can't go wrong with cryptid nation 1, cryptid nation 2, and nightfall. Those are the first two sets, and both are out of print.

>>51665561
I have 20 of these packs sealed. Wanna open them bad

>>51673591
Open 5 of them and post the hits anon ;)

I ordered a few myself and ripped them right away. Much fun.

>>51621459
Imagine being a retarded gentile.

anime dvds are the next bitcoin

>>51622618
This desu. Even top graders are fooled now. Besides there is minimal info on what exactly went into making the early cards.

Also reputation is everything in the tcg community. If a high rep collector and a nobody take a convincing fake o te same collector there is a good chance the guy with rep will have his graded.

>>51623331
You ever seen a fake card irl bud? I know you pretended a semi valuable card was fake one time but have you ever actually seen a fake card?

>>51672178
treat them all as gems. i was at a thrift store recently and they were asking $100-$300 for vintage nintendo shirts

>>51622618
>>51674880

Amateurs. With a jewlers loup it's easy to tell the difference between authentic and fake cards. The print dot patterns are impossible to replicate perfectly without the master image file used to print the cards, the precise mixture of inks and materials used to create the cards.

What you are postulating is outright misinformation.

>>51675092
>they can fake money but not Pokémon cards
Retarded nigger has fake shit lmao

>>51652322
Premodern foils are literally porn

What do we think of the banlist Yuhichads, Anyone got an ulti cyber jar and cashing in?

>>51674830
Blu ray and vhs horror can be. Both can have pretty small print runs.

The market just doesnt know much about anime dvds or what makes one more valuable than another.

what ya guys think of picrel. Does it makes sense to buy some sets and hold for some years?

>>51677294
ask yourself
Will it have collectors value
Will it still be relevant by then
If both no you know what to do

>>51665879
>>51665908
>>51665934
>>51665970
>>51666031

Incredible collection man. Those are really amazing. Clearly you put some time in years ago. I'm gussing you probably have near 6-figures of cards haha

Just saw this in a shop in Japan when i walked in. Anyone know about it?

Its a mcdonalds 2002 pikachu. Worth much. Says large fold but i cant see anything

>>51673352
>>51673436

Okay but look at X/Y evolutions. How much of that shit was printed and even with the recent market dip it is still above 800 USD a box? Am I telling people to go out and rip every modern set? No but if you are careful with picking your sets you can do very well and if the set has a lot of alt hits like evo skies it stands to reason it will do well in the long term. Again I am talking about holding sealed product over a 5-10 year term.

I get your point about modern being highly reprinted but you guys are forgetting the card inflation to pull these rare cards too. You would need on average to rip almost 2k packs to guarantee a moonbreon hit. The ratio for vintage packs was 1/10 of that. It's okay to not think modern is a good investment but when there is clear evidence certain sets have performed well and now out of print sets have continued to rise you are just arguing with a brick wall

>>51662231
I am looking to buy Nightfall box next. Already bought Wilderness since it was very cheap. I don't know if MZ is 'top dog' in the sense of sales, popularity, etc, but I do have a good feeling about it's future. Go look at the Metazoo IG page and check their story if you have doubts of people playing/caring about the game.

>>51664148
Extremely based. The summer islands cards are gorgeous - the Mew one is one of my all time favorite artworks for Pokemon.

>>51665570
A lot of us would say Metazoo. But the anon below who mentioned the Charizard UPC is probably right. Be warned, they will print the shit out of it but it probably won't affect the price because MUH Charizard.

>>51669322
Very nice. Some great games there. CIB Nintendo games are going to continue to increase exponentially, imo.

>>51669430
Interesting, thanks for sharing. Seems like a viable option to 'corner the market' on something like this.

>>51672178
They're definitely worth something. Do some comps on ebay and put them up for auction.

>>51673477
One of the reasons I want to learn to play the game is to participate in that tournament. Excited for online play to come as well, where I live i don't think there is much of a scene...

>>51674880
>>51674892
You don't think PSA can determine what constitutes a fake?

>>51675092
Seriously. The dude above is talking out of his ass.

Wow this thread has hit 200+ !

I dropped 200 and trying to talk a seller down to same price on sealed ufc booster boxes.
I'm slowly becoming the Rudy of ufc.

>>51665570
I checked my local walmart and they had some first edition ufo boosters, and a mystery box with 3 booster packs. I bought it and it contained two first edition nightfall and a first edition cryptid nation packs.
Ive loved paranormal shit all my life so finding Indrid Cold was pretty cool. Also found some beasties local to my state. It sucks because I want to buy and hold some first ed boosters, but i also want to play the game.

Why aren't you guys getting into metacosmix?

>>51675793
>impossible to replicate perfectly without the master image file

Can you even read?
I think you're a salty bitch who probably sold your collection for $20 and now you come in here to talk shit

>>51626710
>there’s only a dozen in the world that have ever been on market
>two on the market in two months
you are a sucker if you think there's only a dozen

>>51676429
Blu Rays are the new laser discs. Zoomers would rather stream for HD. DVDs hold nostalgic value like VHS. They're dirt cheap at the moment so if you're collecting, DVDs is the best entry point.

>>51681265
There’s been only 3 sold in the last 2 years. And previously to that only 6 sold in the last 10 years.

>>51680167
because that looks gay and fake

Is this Metazoo shit gonna give me AIDS, or will this be another dead TCG in a year?

>>51684942
Metazoo has Rudy involvement, which means it will be around for quite some time

>>51685167
wtf is a rudy?

>>51685167
So did Force of Will and look at it now.

>>51685447
He was involved with its start up and design?

>>51685447
no, rudy carried force of will and believed in it and also made a video calling it force of fail and basically killed it off. i still have a couple sealed boxes that have skyrocketed from what i paid them, doubt the market is liquid though. i still love the aesthetics, characters and the gameplay but i think it need a “commander” format to develop. pretty sure it’s a dead game anyways so w/e

>>51685606
no.

>>51685432
A dude that quit his financial job to sell cards and now makes YouTube videos on card investments. Because he has an actual financial background his videos are actually pretty good and I think he's the biggest channel for that kind of thing. His main focus is Magic but he does a little bit of everything and basically MetaZoo reached out to him and somehow convinced him to support them so now all of the people that follow Rudy are now also buying MetaZoo because he's shilling it. Honestly if they didn't get Rudy I think they probably would of shut down and went out of business already.

>>51673477
Checked. Where are some good sites to hunt for deals? Is eBay a good place?
>>51664627
Based, going to get one too

>>51686306
Metazoo apparently is selling directly on ebay with ebay branded boxes

>>51680279
>I think you're a salty bitch who probably sold your collection for $20 and now you come in here to talk shit
That was exactly my thought anon. Isn't it funny how in the TCG world the misinformation and fudders all come from a similar background? Really is a case of 'I missed out, and therefore I want everyone else to also.'

>>51686306
I have a ton of old pokemon cards to get rid of i would be willing to give a fairly good deal

>>51677294
>what ya guys think of picrel. Does it makes sense to buy some sets and hold for some years?
No. If you want to purchase MTG, then ignore the new stuff. Load up on Alpha MTG cards. They are essentially blue chip assets.

>>51684942
>Is this Metazoo shit gonna give me AIDS, or will this be another dead TCG in a year?
MetaZoo has a 20 year plan. The game will release in ' 2-3 year blocs' each depicting cryptids native to a particular region of the world. For instance, the 1st bloc is called Cryptid Nation, and focuses on the cryptids of North America. The 2nd bloc will be called Yokai Island, and will focus on cryptids native to Japan and Asia. The 3rd bloc with be Grimm's Kingdom, and will focus on European cryptids. And so on...

What's most important about MetaZoo is it is NOT just a card game. The creators plan for it to have an IP similar to Pokemon. There are already comics, characters, a story, books, and a Netflix series in production. The team at MZ is truly shooting for the moon.

>>51686306
>Checked. Where are some good sites to hunt for deals? Is eBay a good place?
There have been amazing deals on eBay recently if you keep an eye on auctions ending soon. You can also purchase on TCGplayer. However some of the best deals are found in MetaZoo Marketplace groups on FB and Discord. I've done hundreds of deals through these venues and have yet to been 100% ripped off, but I have had issues with orders and had to send stuff back on occasion. Just make sure you properly vet whoever you're dealing with if you decide to go through these channels.

>>51680279
>collecting cards like a queer
>collecting fake cards
You’re a fucking retard with fake cards aren’t you

Do you guys Yugioh? What does its future look like?

>>51690315
I actually recognize you. You started a few threads about your inability to distinguish fake cards
You were screaming in all caps for like 10 posts I remember. Sad

>>51690315
>You’re a fucking retard with fake cards aren’t you
>>51691100
>I actually recognize you.
Lmao. Anon has been identified after only typing a handful of words because the salt behind them is very particular.

Anyone in the adult trading card market?

I was thinking of investing in Juicy Honey trading cards but I don't know if I'll be able to sell them when the time comes since I don't read moonrunes.

>>51621443
people were reporting a shitload of factory errors from the 2022 yugioh tins apparently.

>>51646590
>tfw no choose your own adventure archtype where the opponent chooses between two powerful effects to activate
goosebumps art would make decent yugioh art. it has that ominous vibe.
Enough with the HERO support
When are we gettin' some VILLAINS?

>>51690480
Big money, few understand. Everyone always talk about should I invest into pokemon/magic or if a new card game will beat magic/pokemon but they always fail to mention Yugioh despite it being in the top 3 for pretty much forever. My personal favorite thing about yugioh is how 99% of players don't give a fuck about PSA/slabs and it's all about having raw so you can play the cards.

>>51621443
>Metazoo

ngmi

>>51673591
Opened 10 and my hits were decent Got the snipe horseman and the grim. Rest were meh. Bought akira sam and now I just want the mothman and i will be happy. The set really is cool though I am glad i picked them up when it was announced. Also metazoo sisters what do we think of this latest mini set announcement?

Doesn’t psa cost an arm and a leg to grade one fucking card?

>>51652177
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>51621443
>>51621443
Antique Dealer here, anywhere in the United States still have areas with cheap vintage video games and retro toys? Vintage games, comics etc have been increasingly expensive post pandemic though I assume some market correction will happen.

>>51691100
I don’t collect cards faggot. I’m from smg but checked

>>51693070
so you say buy some psa blue eyes whites?

>>51693451
i see first editions here
https://tactcg.shop/products/metazoo-wilderness-1st-edition-booster-display-pre-order

>>51690480
We are about to get into 2x-3x territory with the release of a certain card next month.

I will post more details about it here 3 days before it comes out.

Reason I won't post about it now is because I don't want to get it bought before it even comes out and we also need confirmation on the card's rarity.

Once we know what I will make a quick guide of how the card will 2x-3x in a few weeks after release date so people here can make a quick buck.

>>51690480
Iam in pretty deep for yugioh
(All preorder buy in)
Magical hero booster box x10
Secret Slayers BB x10
Toon Chaos BB x10
Rage if Ra BB x10
Genesis impact x10
King court x20
Brothers of legend x10

Ghost from the past x15 displays
Ghost from the past 2 x 15 displays
2019 tins x6
2020 tins x12
2021 tins x6
2022 tins x20

Collector rare psa9 emperor dragon
Collector rare psa9 pot of desires
Ghost fire wall
Ghost cyber dragon

>>51691535
Like what ??

I opened 4 tins got
2 pots
1 red eyes

>>51695772
I wouldn't buy from there that is way to expensive. Check black border society for way better deals.

I've always been a big yu gi oh fan but always sticked to the videogames, i'd like to start collecting some cards mostly because i like the designs and having a chance for profit would be a nice extra on top, which packs are worth getting nowadays?

>>51693070
>>51697359
All the cheaters in the tcg world are known to play Yugioh. It's the only one of the big 3 tcgs that is likely going to outright die. There's a reason no one talks about Yugioh and thats because the market action and gameplay are subpar.

>I have information about a card that is a for sure thing to 2x - 3x
>stay posted for more information

Lmao what a perfect example of the type of person that composes the Yugioh community.

>>51695675
thrift stores in the middle of nowhere where owners dont care about checking ebay for toys and video games because they think the money is in furniture

>>51624308
the cooler they look and the more colorful they are is generally when they are more valuable
if you see ones that don't have holographics on them they are usually worthless unless old

>>51699446
I'm not going to shill a card that might be a $1 super rare retard.

Metazoo did an exclusive blister pack for target that includes a smokey bear beastie.
I fucking love it. I may buy a few to hold on to, Smokey bear is still iconic and has a surprisingly big fanbase after decades of just being a PSA mascot for the forestry service.

>>51700260
*artifact, not beastie. Not that it's even a playable card

Tips for keeping your snes games safe? Someone recommended a VHS case to put them in.

>>51674793
Seethe kike lmao

>>51703251
search "Universal game case" for loose carts
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1189478393/retro-video-game-cases-artwork-custom
for boxed games, you can buy box protectors
https://www.ebay.com/itm/233013878281

>>51693070
Mine isn't Ulti but I have one!


How long til Starlight Stratos is 1k?

>>51704147
Thanks man!

>>51621443
This year I got into pegging against inflation somehow, so I've been selling some cards. My old collection I accumulated in the 2000's was stored at me mum's and never moved, so tons of classical cards, over 200 rares, but also all kinds of conditions because kids are fucking retarded.
Recently, sales have dropped sharply. When I'd get 2-3 requests for pictures a week for the first 2-3 months of selling, right now I have been without even a message for over 2 months.

>Has Pokemon peaked?
Definitely not, I think people just have better financial decisions to make right now than buying cardboard, and those who STILL are blissfully unaware of world events and buy cards probably go for pristine quality.

>>51678850
Japanese gradings are MUCH harsher than even European ones.
I once bought a perfectly fine video game (was it Tales of Eternia, PSP?) for 200 yen because the box had a visible scratch and the manual was missing.
Japanese "C Condition" is roundabout American "Mint"

>>51621443
I'll buy your rarest carton cards for a few dollars when the recession really hits the markets. Stay mad.

I really want to buy pokemon card packs I'm not going to spend any money on it I know this but the back of my head keeps telling me to buy how do I stop this

>>51706170
I don't think people here in the west give a shit about Japanese grading companies.

I'm from Europe and we have tons of a grading companies and yet people still choose to grade their cards with PSA/BGS

>>51650226
Hi scott