/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>51650486
Nothings happening , take your meds and go to sleep

>>51650486
Hi brainlet here. Who dunnit?
Rusians can just turn it off so why would they!

>>51650486
Western countries can't even comprehend how fucked they are.

>>51650705
It was this guy:
>>51650503

>>51650486
Gas is running fine in Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbSONCdOrNs

Update: It's not just NS2: according to Reuters, Nord Stream AG, the operator of the Nord Stream 1 undersea gas pipeline from Russia to Germany, said Monday it was looking into causes of a drop in pressure in the pipeline.

"Tonight, dispatchers from the Nord Stream 1 control centre recorded a pressure drop on both branches of the gas pipeline," it said in a statement. "The reasons are being clarified."

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/nord-stream-ag-operator-says-looking-into-decline-pressure-nord-stream-1-2022-09-26/?taid=633220e6fad38e0001f13859&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

>>51650486
good, Europe needs to feel max pain to overthrow every last one of these globohomo vassal regimes.
Oh and this is probably a maintenance thing, sanctions prevent proper maintenance.

isnt nord stream 1 already turned off? why does this matter?

>>51650486
How does your image manage to repeat itself so much in so few lines of text and what fucking idiot thinks it's okay to write like that?

>>51651024
>why does this matter?
you need pressure to empty the storage. also, not there is a certainty that there will be no gas from russia until spring. and russian gas is pure, other producers have impurity's which means you have redo everything for example in chemical industry (BASF)

Imagine being this comfy.

>>51650486
WTF!!!!!!!

THE POLLUTION FROM THIS IS GOING TO COMPLETELY UNDO ALL OF THE PROGRESS FROM THE MERGE! WE MAY AS WELL HAVE KEPT POW IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO THIS CRAP

UNREAL

>>51650762
>>51651375

>>51651375
kek

Holy shit, no way this isn't a USA/UK operation. Europeans can't waffle on the Russian gas embargo and go back to buying their fuels if the pipeline is ruined. Who else has the sub/divers in the region that would actually benefit from doing it? If one of the LNG ports goes up in a fireball this week, that's the anti US reprisal.

Long US gas I guess.

>thread theme
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFFr2BIft-c

Why don’t euroniggerfaggotasses get their gas from somewhere else like Canada or America? Are they that fucking stupid and inept?

>>51653376
>that image
When memes arent updated

>>51653603
It costs several time more and is diffcult to get enough

>>51653626
What choice do they have? Plus they get to give money to le western democracies

>>51653609
you should see the Euro's chart

>>51653649
All of that is done at the moment. You're saying nothing new
But gas isnt lying around just waiting to be picked up. Its difficult and expensive

>>51653656
Pound is doing worse

>>51650705
It's not turned off, it's broken now, and it's not just NS2 but NS1 too
They need to stay pressurized, otherwise leaks can develop when repressurized, the russians kept them pressurized so it could send gas with little or no lead time
Now they need to be repaired, good luck getting that far in this geopolitical climate, it's over for euroniggers and it's bull for every fossil energy company out there

>>51653724
Sure, but whoever did it, basically just declared war

>>51653724
They were not in use, though. Nothingburger.

>>51653830
They weren't in use because the Europeans pinky promised not to buy Russian gas. This ensured that they can't go back on the deal. Very big deal.

>>51653891
Yes, its a big deal, because its a declaration of war.

>>51653830
NS1 was until august iirc, without it there's simply not enough gas without deindustrialization, good luck printing money to keep business "powered off" and subsidizing household energy in the midst of an inflationary/fx crisis
>>51653782
Yeah, guess those msm rumours of a formal war declaration in september 30 were pushed by glowniggers in anticipation of this

>>51653891
>>51653919
Yet prices haven't budged. If this event changed anything important, prices would skyrocket.

>>51653954
Because it already happened over the last 6 months or so, this development has ensured that prices will stay like this for years, the German PPI did a near 50% print this month iirc, prices have barely started to reach consumers and they will absolutely reach them now

>>51653919
>rumours
Blimey m8, u bri'ish? im craving some crisps n a nice tall pint meself

>>51653603
>why do they get their gas from a nearby country with land access instead of from across the Atlantic

>>51653919
Interesting

bump

>>51650776
wasn't NS2 not even operational?

>>51651375
Hahahaha

>>51655497
Yeah, but even though it's not running you still need to pressurize the pipes to keep them stable.

Baffles me how stupid the german government is, they are suprised something like that happened? Who shutdown ns2 again? Who didnt want any gas anymore from russia? Did they really think russia will just maintain ns1 because they feel like it? Fucking morons, "attack" Lol lmao


t. kraut

bump

>>51655599
why are germs so retarded? why did they vote in greens (aka the biggest political retards on planet earth)?

>>51655619
Their cattle that get easily brainwashed, this time that they are the only hope to save the planet, especially zoomers thank god half of them cant vote yet, when i heard these retards be interviewed on friday for future demos i felt like i had to throw up

>>51655599
how can you believe for a single second that your governement is legitimately trying to get out of this situation and not destroy your people.

>>51650486
Germans are such stupid uppity niggers.

They got what they deserve for going all in Russian gas and closing all their nuclear power plants.

I'm really happy that these vatnik threads will decline now that the posters are all getting sent to die in the war that they helped worsen

>>51655599
It's probably not the russians either because they're the ones who invested billions into it.
It's probably CIA glowies as they're the ones benefitting from it.

>>51650486
who would carry it out though? Russians doing a false flag?

>>51651375
i saw this, there was maybe 900-2k viewers at any time, i am shocked twitch blocked it, thats so gay

>>51655708
>that they helped worsen
I generally don't post all that often, but every once in a while I come across a retarded nigger. In regards to Russia's conscripts, they're only doing what Ukraine has already done. In regards to Russia's prisoners fighting in Wagner, again, they're only doing what Ukraine has done. The only people who have worsened this conflict and made it worse than it needs to be are the NATO nations, who have pledged to fight to the last Ukrainian. They are considering a bill in their parliament as I write this to draft women, and have blocked men from over the age of 60 from leaving. Russia has all of the leverage in this conflict, and this winter is going to be a very cold one for Europe. Say what you like about Russia, and say what you like about Putin, but time has shown one thing specifically about his tenure at Russia's helm - he is cold, calculating, and doesn't make mistakes. He has emerged from every single issue facing him throughout the years unscathed. There's a reason people were speculating about his health or mental ability when this happened - because they didn't want to recognize the harsh reality that he wouldn't have committed to this "special military operation" of his if he didn't have full confidence that it would succeed. And as it turns out, electing a corrupt comedian to the highest office of your nation who pledges loyalty to internationalists who would rather see the death of your people over Russia (the world's largest nuclear power) retaining its traditional sphere of influence wasn't the best idea.

>>51651375
>1.44 EUR/month
So your average monthly wage in Russia

>>51655708
>>51655834
>cont.
Don't get it fooled, retard. You can hate Russia all you want, and want Ukraine to win and restore control over its borders, but it's undeniable that the blame for escalation in Ukraine lies solely on NATO and the hubris of the clowns us Westerners opted to elect out of infinite comfort. This war would have been over in April, and much death avoided had we recognized that Ukraine is a line in the sand for Russia. But instead, everyone gets to suffer because the West can't afford to lose the government it's been money laundering and trafficking with, whilst staging military exercises near the Russian border for the last decade.

>inb4 putin bot
The only thing I can say is thank goodness I work for Lockheed, I won't be too concerned about the incoming layoffs over the next year or two.

>>51650705
It was USA who sabotaged it, get europe more depended on us gas

>>51650734
and you cant even comprehend how retarded (You) are.

>>51653724
>it's bull for every fossil energy company out there
Wait for the price cap.

>>51655667
And the DAX opens mega green lmaoo

>>51655834
>>51655844
based take in before glownig cope

>>51655599
Putin wants the ability to turn the pipes back on. Otherwise he loses all leverage. Putin didn't turn off the gas to spite Germany, he turned off the gas to pressure Germany to reduce sanctions. That doesn't work if he can't turn the gas back on again. Russia wouldn't destroy the pipes.

>>51653686
short term.
euro is worse overall, been dropping for years. be glad wee got out of the EU

>>51653603
These retards could have got gas from underneath their feet by fracking but they decided to listen to a 12 year old swedish girl.

>>51653603
Dunning-Kruger in full effect

>>51655844
if that's true, why did russia start this?

>>51650705
>Hi brainlet here. Who dunnit?
Doesn't matter. All that matters is the escalation of war to weaken Europe politically, both America and Russia benefit from instability.

>according to circles informed about the first assessment of the situation

Why is Petrobras getting huge option volume?

>>51656035
I could easily fill 5 posts up to the maximum character limit explaining the Russian position to you, and I'm sure I would get jackshit in response. You should do your absolute best to try and understand both sides in this conflict, the world isn't as black and white as it seems. Ultimately, conflict is the goal for both the US and Russia, as it generates us both large amounts of money and prestige. "Freedom" or whatever in Ukraine isn't it. As far as the average citizen is concerned, conflicts should be evaluated based on what you specifically will receive from your government spending the money the forcibly took from your pocket, and what kind ROI you'll be receiving on it. The Europeas are receiving a very poor return. The Russians are doing fine, so long as China acts as a middleman for the goods they can no longer acquire normally (which, shouldn't be a problem this decade). The Americans are doing okay, thanks to currency exchange rates being favorable to both the dollar and the ruble, however a Ukrainian victory is unlikely to result in a great benefit to American citizens, whereas Russia is projected to add 5-10 million highly nationalistic citizens to its population once these referendums are complete this week. But since I doubt you're posting in good faith, I'll end this post with a "slava ukraini!!" to keep you happy, since that's the level of discourse you would likely prefer.

>>51650823
You must be retarded, this is to for globohomo even more. You will eat the bugs and live in a pod.

>>51656202
russia has destroyed its economy and its reputation and its military all for a few million people and some radioactive land from a neighboring country that now hates it. If putin is not toppled by the end of this year and the war isnt finished then things will only get worse. Its OVER

>>51656202
Since this guy is a flaming homosexual I'll summarize it.
Russia thinks its a big powerful empire and demands 100% compliance with its neighboring countries. That's why Belarus is a puppet government, chechnya & georgia hate the fuck out of them and none of their other former soviet states want anything to do with them. If you don't give in to their demands they'll crush you.
There's no deeper things to think about russia just thinks its way stronger than it is and doesn't care about cooperation, its all about top down niggerry and you can see that at every level of their military & government.

saying this is NATOs fault is just more of their typical gas lighting. they only know how to lie and be abusive. They act confused why no one likes them but really they don't care they wish they just could nuke everyone because they can't control them.

>>51655845
Freedom gas i member. Look at that, like they all planed it all along. What a coincidink.

>>51656287
Anything that helps destroy the globohomo vassal state known as the EU is a good thing
kys

>>51653603
The atlantic is full of sharks, you need armed escorts for the divers building a pipe and it costs a lot.

>>51655968
It was because germany started giving ukraine weapons. you're saying that russian sanctioned itself to reduce sanctions

>>51656087
Well US wanted to sell gas to Europe a long time ago. But no one would buy expensive gas. Now they can sell as expensive as they can. Russia lost all buyers in Europe.

>>51656387
> he fell for the sharks-attack-humans-with-any-significant-frequency meme

>>51656171
elections, bolsonaro is promising full privatization

>>51656424
Privatization oh no. Infrastructure, energy food and medicine should be under state controle. As much as the state is incopetent, corporations just fuck everyone over.

based

>>51656341
>>51656313

In the past 500 years, Russia has been invaded several times from the west. The Poles came across the European Plain in 1605, followed by the Swedes under Charles XII in 1707, the French under Napoleon in 1812, and the Germans—twice, in both world wars, in 1914 and 1941.

Gee, I wonder why the Russians act the way that they do. The west is no saint, and to think so is pure tribalism, nothing more.

>>51656514
Oil and gas up = stonks up. Check futures for proof. This is gay. I have equity puts

>>51656514
Yeah you think they'd learn to be more cooperative like 100+ other countries have done instead of just trying to control everyone with force.
and never updating your thinking over 800 years tends to doom yourself.

or maybe you disagree and this strategy is working well for them lmao

>>51656313
>Ukraine is a shithole full of peasants with nothing worth taking
>Europe needs to destroy itself to save the indispensible nation of Ukraine

>Russians sent 20K troops towards the 4M pop city of Kiev, not as a feint, but because they believed that their propaganda and hacking had swayed the population to their side and they could stroll in unopposed
>Russian propaganda and hacking is responsible for Trump, Brexit, Meloni, vaccine and lockdown scepticism, anti-trans brainwashing for kids, anti-deindustrialisation, and essentially every non-centrist political opinion in the Western world

>Ukraine's conscripts are super-soldiers who are going to march on Moscow after two weeks of training in the UK
>Russia's mobilised reserves are cannon fodder, having only had a year of mandatory service and two months of refresher training

>Intervention in foreign nations is abhorrent
>We need to go to war with Iran in order to protect Israel, a nation that doesn't even border it.

>Nations are an outdated concept. They shouldn't even exist. Why does it matter if you replace your population with niggers and pakis?
>Slava Ukraini! Sacrifice everything for the national sovereignty of the Ukrainian people

It's the hypocrisy that gets me.

>>51656341
Since this anon is a tranny I'll summarize it. Putin shares the same sin as Saddam and Kadhafi : he wants to stop trading oil and gas in US Dollars. For that capital sin he has to die like the others.

>>51656539
Ukraine wasn't the one preventing them from doing that, kill yourself retard.

>>51655834
Noone wants to be in russia "traditional sphere of influence", that's the problem. Ask the finns, the balts, the poles and now the ukrainians.

>because they didn't want to recognize the harsh reality that he wouldn't have committed to this "special military operation" of his if he didn't have full confidence that it would succeed.
The initial offensive has been a gigantic failure and now they're stucked in a war of attrition getting their hardware btfo while NATO use the war as a playground to test their hardware.
Their economy in shamble and losing their biggest leverage on the EU mid-term (because they sure as hell won't go back to russian gas after this episode).

It's another episode of the russian tragedy where they manage to stay an isolated and underdeveloped shithole despite having everything to be a successful and prosperous country.

>>51650486
>>51650705
this

>>51656524
Yeah it's not as if the USA broke their agreements to not attempt to incorporate Ukraine into Nato/EU by performing a coup on a democratically elected government or anything lmao.

>Disclose.tv
This isn't pol, my guy.

>>51656539
he's already doing it with great success. Near 100% of Russian oil and gas are now paid for in Ruble, Yuan or a mix of Ruble and local currency, like Turkish Lira. And that will not change. And Saudi Arabia is looking to finally get Rials for their oil from the Chinese. Likely to happen within six months. The dollar as a reaerve currency is done for. What is happening to Euro, Yen and Pound is engineered, the US lashing out at their vassals to enslave them to what remains of the reserve. Since they are looking to sell them oil and gas instead of Russia at much higher cost, this is to soften the blow. Their intent is to keep the dollar as reserve currency for 'the golden billion' as Putin calls it; the other six billion will trade in other currencies. It's a dying empire holding on to past glory and could last as long as nobody stands up to the former hegemon who will become more ruthless in its relationship with its vassals.

>>51656667
The US is so ultra powerful it can mind control billions of people in every country. If you really believe that why are you trying to resist?
and the US never broke that agreement, they're not in NATO.

>>51656682
https://www.rnd.de/politik/nord-stream-pipelines-durch-druckabfall-unbenutzbar-was-steckt-dahinter-GPL3E77KY6OANVOUZUBQKJVL54.html

Kys

>>51655968
Exactly. Brainlets don't think so deep

>>51656522
And for the bitcoin bros, mining may be banned in EU soon because of energy demands. Best thing to move over to lower energy demand chains like QANX DOT.

>>51656827

It doesnt make much sense. Now there is no fast resolution. Maybe it was done to try force Putin into withdrawing or winding down the war faster. If he knows he has work to do to renew gas flows he will factor this in now that it cant be resumed immediately. Pretty sure Russia will starve themselves of revenue if this continues.

>>51650705
JewSA obviously, why even ask lol

>>51655834
>Russia's traditional sphere of influence
You vatniggers only have a sphere of influence in the first place because one was handed to you by Churchill and Roosevelt
An error that will shortly be remedied

>>51651375
The first twitch streamer that isn't a faggot

>>51650705
CIA

Maybe a crab did it. Go back to sleep, goyum.

>>51656313
>radioactive land
Retard.

>>51650705
usa most likely they are the ones who stand the most to profit short term from this china doesn’t have any bone in this fight and russia could just shutdown the pipelines so as usual look to who wants europe impoverished and poor and reliant on them the most.(USA)

>>51653603
this is literally why the CIA did this are you dense

>>51650705
How long are you here anon? This your first day? The jews anon its always the jews...you'll do well to remember that

>b-but who could have done this???

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-meet-german-chancellor-urge-united-front-amid/story?id=82712888

>>51650486
How difficult is it to repair the pipeline?
How much time does it take?

>>51657953
Ask Chyyyyna. They probably have cool robots and definitely have synthetic fossil fuels based on production expansion charts I've seen. Peak oil was thatta-way, man.

>>51656700
Golden billion with no interaction with brown people would be lit af. Let Putin be king of the pajeets

>>51656976
You're replying to a pajeet shill

>>51651375
kek saved

>>51650503
Oh my God my eyes, the fucking glow coming off this post.

>>51653376
>MAGA
Kill yourself

>>51656700
Anon I have a simple message for you: you should stop glorifying Russia and China.

It was already turned off. Nothing burger. Or maybe another retarded, 4D chess false flag given the amount of russian shilling hitting 4chan these days.

>>51658897
Read the fucking the thread retard, doesnt matter if was "turned off"

>>51659098
Right, doesn't matter. Everyone already expects Russia to never turn the gas on again. Its "broken" (probably siphoning) now and it doesn't mate any difference.

>>51655834
>I can take Kiev in three days

>>51655834
based and clarity-pilled

>>51655844
its by design
This is what Victoria "Fuck the EU" (((Nuland)))
and the banker cabal she represents wanted

>>51656202
>>51655834
based effortposter
it's been funny seeing how the supposed "free thinking" crowd quickly adopted the reddit-tier propaganda about Ukraine instead of trying to understand both sides of a complex and nuanced situation.
Anything beyond "we good they bad" black and white thinking is much too confusing for the normalfags

>>51659569
Using your brain to think about stuff is gay

>>51656700
Why is US dollar going up like crazy then? Everyone wants to hold US dollar because it’s safe heaven amongs the currency. You’re a dumb fuck

>>51655834
LMAO could you dick suck Putin's any harder? So smart and cunning yet has ran Russia for decades and its still a shithole out side of maybe st. petersburg.

The russian shilling is off the chart today, I'm starting to thing this was actually a double false flag from Russia (russia doing it, then saying the US secretly did it). Putin loves retarded 4D chess bullshit like this even though it never works. In reality is a nothing burger that no one cares about.

>>51659243
>Everyone already expects Russia to never turn the gas on again
damn nigger ur stupid
Russia would like to turn on the gas again as soon as it's possible to do so without losing face or bargaining power. You really think they want to lose a main customer forever by withholding the supply long enough for Germany and other nations to find their own supplies? They'd be losing one of their strongest persuasive tools, as well as a major income stream.

Anyway I am done throwing pearls before swine

>>51659640
I hope they're at least paying you decently for your reddit-tier rebuttals.

>>51655840
cope and freeze fag

Well, your stoopid baka pipeline is broken no matter what pontification goes on.

Deal with it.

>>51659640
>if it contradicts the Official Reddit Narrative on Ukraine, it's hecking propaganda from Russian Bots TM
verification not required for this post, nigger

>>51651285
>other producers have impurity's which means you have redo everything for example in chemical industry (BASF)
heh and you know what the main impurity is? it's sulphur.
lmao fart gas

>>51650705
>Rusians can just turn it off so why would they!
We all know it was the US that did it because it benefits them the most - however there is no point in pointing this out

>>51659695
They already lost Europe as a customer. You're a fucking idiot if you think Europe is going to continue relying on Russia for energy anymore after this.

Remember Russia already turned off most of the gas to Europe. German already halted suspended certification of NS2 in Feb, it was never going to be used from the beginning.

>>51650762
Hope he remembers to turn it off when he gets sent to die in a cold ditch

>>51655834
>>51655844
Kind of autistic but also based

>>51655834
>he is cold, calculating, and doesn't make mistakes.
Shit bait but it worked anyways

>>51650776
That is some next level machavellian shit.
Russia has extreme interest in NS2 being opened, meanwhile all American presidents have been opposed to the construction.
When the flow of gas through the NS1 fell because Russia cut the supply and other shenanigans (this shit is broken and we can't fix it because of the sanctions etc.), they repeatedly said to the Germans "what about NS2? we can get that operating in no time".

It would be pretty obvious if only NS1 was damaged that it was the Russians, and if it was only NS2 it would be obvious it was the US, but who has any interest in damaging both pipelines?

>>51656700
>the dollars reserve currency status is entirely based on oil being traded in it
AHHH I HATE YOU DUMB RETARDS SO MUCH

>>51656700
>>51659635
>Why is US dollar going up like crazy then?
We are basically consolidating/cannibalizing our allies/vassal's currency to push ours up. Meanwhile India, China, Russia, and a few other nations are completely dumping their USD reserves. So we end up with a strong currency in our vassals, a weak one at home due to our GDP paying off the money printing we did, and too many third world shitholes completely out of our control

>>51659703
Russia = shithole

>>51650734
lol why would it be? gas supplies for residential heating this winter are already covered with a safe margin, the battle right now is only for how long will the german chemical industry need to pause operations - optimistic scenario is 1-2 months, pessimistic 4-5. that's it, that's the whole economic impact this will have. on the other hand it'll make it politically easier (thus quicker) to transition to renewable/nuclear mix which is optimal long term. we'll have slightly higher energy costs for ~7 years and then we'll have clean energy basically for free forever. thanks again putin, you're a truly genius strategic mastermind

>>51659854
>but who has any interest in damaging both pipelines?
any EU country that wants to force germany to start acting reasonably and accept that russia will never be a reliable partner again

>>51659949
How easily can Russia build ng pipelines to other countries like China? It's a huge chunk of their economy, no? I get that people want globohomo to lose but I don't think they realize just how rigged things are in its favor

>>51650486
>Disclose.tv

>>51651375
he opened another stream
https://www.twitch.tv/russiangas1

>>51659984
they don't make that much money on gas anyway, most of their exports is oil etc. but actually almost nobody is buying their oil either because tankers carrying russian oil are refused insurance (dick move but that's war I guess). they are building some pipelines to China but it'll take like 5 years until they have the capacity to sell as much gas/oil there as they've been selling to EU. economically there is no outcome of this war that's beneficial to russia which is kind of a problem because they may feel like they have nothing to lose

>>51659984
Russia is already selling gas/oil to China and India but at steep discounts and probably with geopolitical concessions, because there is a risk of China / India not wanting to fuck up their trade with other countries just to get some slightly cheaper gas. Like China's trade with Russia is a lot, but its nothing compared to China's trade with the US + Europe. So China can demand a sweet discount for the risk from Russia, with cherries on top, and favors China probably expects to cash in the future.

>>51650486
>be person
>have milk man bring over milk
>milk man (not her bf) fucks my wife
>I cancel milk subscription
>weeks pass without seeing milk man
>I break my milk box
why did the milk man do this

>>51655844
Hello Nick Fuentes

>>51655844
>lies solely on NATO
Ok vatnick.

It's pretty sad how many NPC tourists/Langley shills we have spilling even on fucking biz.
>anon goes in depth to explain the Russian point of view and why the conflict is nuanced
The response
>ok vatnick

It sounds schizo, but I swear that glowies are more effective than we give them credit for.

>explain the Russian point of view
>We wuz good bois we dint do nufinin.

I'm impressed to see the shilling campaign by vatnicks managed to sway this many anons to work against their own interests.

>>51655834
>>51655844

you are a retard.

Russia is the aggressor. It was Russia that annexed Ukrainian territory. The Ukrainian don’t want to be part of Russia. The Baltics don’t want to be part of Russia. Nato is a defensive alliance because everyone who has ever interacted with Russians knows they are subhuman niggers who need to be contained.

It’s no secret that Russia wants to take over all of Europe. Dugin and Putin wouldn’t stop at Ukraine.

Putin bit off more than he could chew this time around. His incompetent military losing territory after 7 months of stalemate is a testament to Russian failure.

Unironically kill yourself Russian shill.

>>51650705
these two pipes went to the germany directly, repairing them can easily take months and month.

>>51661596
This webm is from NATOkraine territory.

I'm getting a little worried about you Krauts.
I suggest you go to your nearest military surplus store (if this isnt just an American thing) and buy some wool blankets. A couple of these will keep you cozy all night.

>>51661865
>you are a retard.
>Russia is the aggressor. It was Russia that annexed Ukrainian territory. The Ukrainian don’t want to be part of Russia. The Baltics don’t want to be part of Russia. Nato is a defensive alliance because everyone who has ever interacted with Russians knows they are subhuman niggers who need to be contained.
>It’s no secret that Russia wants to take over all of Europe. Dugin and Putin wouldn’t stop at Ukraine.
>Putin bit off more than he could chew this time around. His incompetent military losing territory after 7 months of stalemate is a testament to Russian failure.
>Unironically kill yourself Russian shill.

>>51659780
>Be PoW Russian in Ukraine
>Standing against wall waiting for the end
>Ivan why are you smiling
>Even in death you can not defeat me
>My live stream still shows I have working gas and water

It's pretty sad how many NPC tourists/RT shills we have spilling even on fucking biz.
>anon goes in depth to explain the Ukraine point of view and why the conflict is clear as day.
The response
>Greentext the response

It sounds schizo, but I swear that glowies are more effective than we give them credit for.

>>51662095

Russians and chink scammers infest this accursed board like flies

>>51662095
>In depth
>Repeats tired cnn talking points about how Russians are the real niggers and NATO is defensive
>Gets responded too appropriately
>Nooooo you should have been convinced!
Both sides are controlled by banker kikes. Either find a way to profit from it or leave this board. If you want pro Ukie cheering go talk to the glowies on /k/

>>51661596
Sadly NATO shills lack creativity. I mean look at this one
>>51661865
>It's no secret that Russia wants to take over all of Europe
LMAO I CAN'T BREATHE. With what fucking army you dumb nigger ? You can't push that theory anymore, the Russian army already struggles against the Ukrainian one, why should I fear them ? It doesn't makes sense. We also have 0 proof that Russian nukes are fully operational, and considering the state of their army, they certainly aren't.

>>51662095
>>51662146
NATO shills are also too obvious. What do you gain in encouraging WW3 ?
>Muh dead Russians ! Kill those subhumans !
You're worse than them and are probably coming from some eastern European shithole, guess what no one likes you either. No sane person wants to die a worthless war against them, fuck off.

>>51661865
There is no way in hell Russia wants to take all of Europe. That'd be extremely retarded.
>But what if they are?
Then they would undoubtedly cause WWIII by directly attacking Nato nations. No one will win WWIII, and hell Somalia might just be the most sophisticated population.
Making this /biz/ related: long Somalian/mudhut tier countries stocks if you honestly think that Putin is going invade more of Europe.

>>51659984
>How easily can Russia build ng pipelines to other countries like China? It's a huge chunk of their economy, no? I get that people want globohomo to lose but I don't think they realize just how rigged things are in its favor
Power of Siberia - The total length of the pipeline, when fully completed, will be 3,968 km (2,466 mi).[7] The full capacity of the 1,420 mm (56 in) pipeline would be up to 61 billion m3 (2.2 trillion cu ft) per annum of natural gas,[5][19] of which 38 billion m3 (1.3 trillion cu ft) per annum are supplied to China.[20][21] The export to China starts with 5 billion m3 (180 billion cu ft) per annum in 2020, and is expected to increase gradually to 38 billion m3 (1.3 trillion cu ft) per annum by 2025 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_of_Siberia

>>51650486
This is the problem with biz. Not even the most basic understanding of economics or supply and demand. Destroying a pipeline like this reduces the supply of gas to europe. However, is the actual production capacity of gas lessened? Nope. So world supply actually goes up at the expense of Europe. Gas prices will go down everywhere except europe due to this.

Moscow says Power of Siberia 2 pipeline to China will 'replace' Nord Stream 2 - Power of Siberia 2, something Moscow and Beijing have discussed for several years, will take the place of Nord Stream 2, said Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak on Thursday.

Nordstream 2 is a proposed route for bringing Russian gas to Europe, particularly Germany. Construction of the controversial pipeline was completed in September 2021, though its certification was suspended following Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Speaking on Russian state television, Novak was asked if the Asian pipeline could replace its European counterpart within Russia's energy strategy -- to which he replied "yes".

Earlier in the day, the minister indicated that Russia and China would soon sign a deal to deliver "50 billion cubic metres of gas" per year via the proposed Power of Siberia 2 pipeline.
https://www.euronews.com/2022/09/15/moscow-says-power-of-siberia-2-pipeline-to-china-will-replace-nord-stream-2

Japan's JERA signs new LNG deal with Russia's Sakhalin-2 - August 26, 2022 TOKYO, Aug 26 (Reuters) - Japan's JERA has signed a deal with thenew operator of the Sakhalin-2 energy project in Russia to maintain long-term deliveries of liquefied natural gas (LNG), a spokesperson for the country's biggest power generator said on Friday.

Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree in June taking charge of the project, creating a new legal entity to deal with for buyers and shareholders, which include Shell (SHEL.L) and Japanese trading houses Mitsui & Co (8031.T) and Mitsubishi Corp (8058.T).

Japanese gas and electric utilities with long-term contracts to buy LNG from Sakhalin-2 have received a new contract offer from the newly formed operatorhttps://www.reuters.com/business/energy/jera-signs-deal-with-new-operator-russias-sakhalin-2-keep-lng-contract-2022-08-26/
it is no no biggie. russians are just start exporting in asian market. and get whatever they want from china. japan...

>>51661865
cia niggers are not sending their best. sad! many such cases!

korea...

Oil covered 35% of the energy needs, coal 24%, gas 18%, primary electricity 15% (of which nuclear 14%, hydro, wind, and solar 1%), and biomass 8%. Since 2017, the share of coal has decreased by 4 points, while that of gas has increased by 3 points. Korea depends on imports to meet its entire oil demand.
and supply of Liquefied natural gas is very limited because of different factors.
Newbuilding Orderbook Filled with LNG and Container Ships - https://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/newbuilding-orderbook-filled-with-lng-and-container-ships/

>>51662289

wants to take over does not equal to “can take over” you dysgenic retard subhuman filth FAGGOT NIGGER

>>51661596
seethe shill, hope us and uk get nuked

and china, japan and korea are producing all the shit we buy and use....now all that will be powerd by russian energy and russians buy from china, japan and korea all the stuff russia needs. EU (german industry) is not necessary to russia. there are other producers. and then...EU will sell to who ? if Eu does not export there is no production. if there is no production...prices of energy go up...food goes up...and there are no gibs for peasants

>>51663138

can’t believe I used to respect Putin and Russians, now I hope everyone of his supporters die, you are a blight upon the Earth

>>51650705
US obviously

>>51655834
Good to see you Dr. Mearsheimer.

>>51663201
>US obviously
well....maybe as a contractor...but there has to be some other powerful entity behind this who hired them to do the job. who could it be...it is mystery wrapped in an enigma

>>51663452
hmmmm good point im not sure who it could be though

>>51656539
>stop trading oil and gas in US Dollars
I knew vatnigs were retarded and they never fail to remind me that.

>>51661865
LPR, DPR, zaporozhye and kherson regions all just voted at like 90% "yes" to join the russian federation

>>51655834
Based jannies putting vatnicks in gulag.

>>51663555
is this an AI image of a kike? wow

>>51655834
>>>that they helped worsen
>I generally don't post all that often, but every once in a while I come across a retarded nigger. In regards to Russia's conscripts, they're only doing what Ukraine has already done. In regards to Russia's prisoners fighting in Wagner, again, they're only doing what Ukraine has done. The only people who have worsened this conflict and made it worse than it needs to be are the NATO nations, who have pledged to fight to the last Ukrainian. They are considering a bill in their parliament as I write this to draft women, and have blocked men from over the age of 60 from leaving. Russia has all of the leverage in this conflict, and this winter is going to be a very cold one for Europe. Say what you like about Russia, and say what you like about Putin, but time has shown one thing specifically about his tenure at Russia's helm - he is cold, calculating, and doesn't make mistakes. He has emerged from every single issue facing him throughout the years unscathed. There's a reason people were speculating about his health or mental ability when this happened - because they didn't want to recognize the harsh reality that he wouldn't have committed to this "special military operation" of his if he didn't have full confidence that it would succeed. And as it turns out, electing a corrupt comedian to the highest office of your nation who pledges loyalty to internationalists who would rather see the death of your people over Russia (the world's largest nuclear power) retaining its traditional sphere of influence wasn't the best idea.

how to guarantee glowie replies

>>51663769
>voted
Even vatniks don't believe those numbers are real, and even if they are, these referendums aren't legitimate even by russain law

Biden literally said he was going to do it, lmao.

>>51651375
absolutely mega based

MOSCOW. Sept 27 (Interfax) - The new arbitration proceedings initiated against Gazprom by Naftogaz of Ukraine put the Ukrainian company in jeopardy of being sanctioned by Russia, which would mean an automatic ban on any relations with it, Gazprom said in a statement.

This could mean in practice a suspension of gas transit through Ukraine. Ukraine's gas transmission system works on the principle of substitution. Transit gas is consumed in the country's industrial east, while gas from underground storage facilities goes to the west. It is therefore precisely maintaining transit of Russian gas to Europe through Ukraine that has been Kiev's main goal.

At present, 42 million cubic meters of gas are pumped through Ukraine per day.https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/83379/
When the flow stops, the storage runs dry quickly.

>>51663555
>the grapes of usury

>>51664400
checked and kek'd

I don't see anyone shilling any gas companies. Who stands to benefit? EQNR was getting popular in /smg/ but seems to have faded. I'd imagine a price cap would affect the euro companies the most so not sure that's such a good play now. Is /biz/ doing any slurping off this news?

>>51651441
Haha, thousands of tonns of very energy intesive steel just pointlessly laying on the sea floor

>>51665179
Would have slurped EQNR but got burned on gas and oil too often so wont touch it for now

what did he mean by this

>>51659780
Shouldn't it be the exact opposite? If he leaves it on he makes Europoors seethe eternally.

>>51665460
It sure is tempting but too many wild cards and I'm just not familiar with the industry

>>51653901
problem is, it is very unlikely we'll be able to find proof mutts did this
it's obvious, but it would take a miraculous stroke of luck for they to fuck up so badly as to leave undeniable proof

>>51653376
why would russia damage there own pipeline, they already control the gas supply...100% this was damaged to remove the option for EU to purchase 'red-man bad' gas.
i'd imagine it is whichever globalist entity controls the current US admin, whether or no it was a US-sponsored operation remains to be seen.

>>51655834
>>51655844
So, this is what the unadulterated, purest Russian cope looks like.

>>51650486
lol this is peak clown. Why do they even bother with the optics anymore. At this point it's ridiculous.

>>51666217
>problem is, it is very unlikely we'll be able to find proof mutts did this
who has submarines that can get to around 80-110m) who has submarines that can carry mini subs ? who can operate deep inside NATO waters without being detected ?

>>51653603
America continues to hinder LNG discovery and production and that's not going to stop. We're as dependent on bug bux from China as Germany is on Russian gas.

This thread proves how retarded Americans are. This was done by the US & Germany and possibly Scandinavian knowledge. Idiots.

>>51666612
You are talking to the plethora of shills paid to shit up this board.

>>51655997
>These retards could have got gas from underneath their feet by fracking but they decided to listen to a 12 year old swedish girl.

no they could not you mong, hundreds of test wells have been drilled in europe and fracked and so far zero commercially viable gas has been producecd

>>51655599
They were involved you mongoloid

>>51656539
I think Putin did a 4D chess move by getting Russia kicked off SWIFT rather than leaving of his own accord. It's harder to justify doing a Gaddafi on him that way, because it's of their own making.

>>51656976
>Pretty sure Russia will starve themselves of revenue if this continues.
Kek, the soon-to-be BRICS countries can't buy it fast enough. I think they're even getting discounts.

Fuck they blowing up pipes to suppress smartcon

>>51655599
>German gov doesn't want NS2
>German people are slowly in favor of NS2 as the winter approaches
>NS2 miraculously destroyed

You wouldn't understand it, Ahmed

>>51664094
>if i don't like the election result it is either rigged or illegal

chainlink SUCKS

>>51657607
How can the Euros be so fucking dumb not to see Marshall plan 2.0 and still aligned with the kikes in America.
I guess they're going to wait until they can't feed their kids before they start killing any Jeweseay plant politician over there.
At least Italy kicked started the revolution

>>51656313
Yes you know exactly what and why.

>>51656514
Hahahahahah you stupid FAGGOT. Every European nation has been invaded and subjugated several times. It is no excuse at all. Silly fucking monke. Go hang yourself but you're too stupid to tie a knot.

>>51656539

>>51656573
beep boop beep beep ping brrrttt beep. I wonder if this retard realizes he is literally copy-pasting what he heard from the black box in his domicile.

>>51650486
Sorry about our glownigger ops, Yuros.

>>51651375
Can this asshole be located and fucking arrested? Black Bag this motherfucker!

>>51663993
Yep these AI images are gamechangers for memes and esoteric shit.

>>51660035
banned

>>51650503
who the fuck still says this shit besides glowniggers

>>51659973
Sure, any EU country has the leverage to bully Germany

>>51668132
I do, because whenever there is a happening I'm always disappointing

>>51659854
>but who has any interest in damaging both pipelines?
QUI?

>>51666564
>666
it's over

>>51655840
bluish hand typed this

>>51650486
>GO ALL IN OIL AND NATURAL GAS COMPANIES ON THE OPEN

do it, a nice little bulltrap for retards like yourself. Commodities spiked earlier this year.
This doesnt change anything

>>51650486
Op is not even a midwit - truly a nitwit. Let's look at the situation:
Supply of gas: unchanged
Ability to deliver supply: reduced

Now what would that yield? Surplus inventory = lower prices. Sure prices will be high in Europe but produces will not be getting that money.

>>51650705
D.C. The great reset only works if all countries are under its boot. You think Putin is going to allow himself to be cut out of power? Fuck no. So (((they))) have to declare war on him.
>t. American.

>>51650486
I don't know why everybody is freaking out, my NordVPN is still working fine.

>>51659949
I wish I was still this naive and full of hope
I really wish europeans embrace nuclear energy but leftist love to use solar/wind which are useless

Based Americans playing with their """allies""" like a cat with a mouse lmao

Imagine unironically being a shit-tier US puppet like GERMany, fucking cringe

>>51650705
It makes perfects sense that it was Rustards
>The pipelines were going to discontinued anyways as Europe votes to cut it off
>Get to sow discord
>Get to call a mulligan and get out of contract fees
>Get to claim it was the enemy and rile up dumb russian rubes at home to carry a rusty 100 year old mosin nagant into Ukrain and become fertilizer.
Like what else was Russia going to do with the pipes other then let them rust and break down under the sea.

>>51671973
kek he is copy-pasting it every thread, slightly changing wording to get past filters
based shill, hope you're not doing it for free

>>51650486
I hope Putin lights that baby and dries them eurotards. I’m sure big daddy government will save them like during covid.

>>51650486
I hate americans so much it's unreal

>>51655818
yep this garbage is on https://youtu.be/w7w3oEi6NWI
it's clear who (((they))) want you to watch

>>51650705
It was Estonia.

>>51660024

Russia should accidently cut a bunch of fiber optic cables.

I just wanna see these jews faces now

>>51674754
They will have heat this winter.

>>51674691
this could well happen in this year.
russia build long ago the infrastructure to run their part of the internet disconnected of the internet. but they could still try to disturb global routing traffic when they "disconnect" by doing some BGP route stuff. it happend before and could again because i dont belive every ISP has taken messures to secure their network blocks

>>51656495
third worlders think free markets will make them white

>>51674641

>>51668132
>who the fuck still says this shit besides glowniggers

>>51650705
Germany did it. Now everyone will be mandated to share their body heat and ensure their wives sleep 5 to a bed with foreign men this winter to stay warm. Brilliant move, honestly.

>>51668132
even as a joke it’s stupid and annoying

>>51656976
>Pretty sure Russia will starve themselves of revenue if this continues.

why exactly would russia need our fake digital euros that we print?

>>51666564
Australia?

>>51659949
>how long will the german chemical industry need to pause operations

many plants can't pause without having to be demolished

the only somewhat believable argument that i've seen which would suggest this was the russians is that they are using this attack as a message to the west saying that "no matter where you get your gas we'll blow those pipelines up should you start a war with us". basically reminding europoors that they are more vulnerable that they think.

still think it was the US though.

>>51667054
>green text as a reply
Thanks for proving me right

>>51674754
Wasn't this a vid where the whole UN laughed at some statements from Trump during his speech

makes just as much sense that the US would risk nato cohesion at a time like this, as it does "le russia would just turn the pipeline off!". im not buying the claim the US did this

>>51650705
>Rusians can just turn it off so why would they!
Um, because they're crazy? And they don't follow the science.

I think it has been confirmed that only one of the two NS2 pipes has been destroyed. So one is still useable somewhat maybe. Even more bait to use the last one standing? Would the US really want that

>>51650705
>you can just demolish the towers why would you fly a plane into it

>>51671511
Isn't Putin actually helping ze great reset by creating supply chain issues and energy, oil, gas issues and also by generating fear which causes people to turn to the government.

>>51656341
>russia is the anti conquerer
>can never take land in a war
>but can never be truly defeated in war

Russia just has a pissing match with random countries and trades clay. The transaction cost is slavs.

>>51656524
>Yeah you think they'd learn to be more cooperative like
>Why don't you just let your country get conquered & colonized, bro? It would be so much easier if you didn't resist. Why don't you just lay down and die, bro?
Are you stupid?

>>51655840
So you're telling me I can give this guy $1.50 (or €1.60 soon) in tips to keep his gas running and laugh anly euros? Based.

>>51653901
It's almost like CIA/Mossad wants to pull another 9/11 shemitah happening.

>>51655708
same, their shilling is obvious and tiresome, it like trannies and reddit faggots combined their delusions
>le based
>uppity german niggers
>globohomo

>>51655708
Phoneposters as well are getting drafted.