/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>51641229
I agree with most of what you say like how there is no secret glowie here antagonising against silver, except you have massively misread the upside and downside risk to silver.
1 bil oz is a bullshit figure you pulled out of your ass.
Are you denying the coomex drain is happening?
Because it is, retard. It fucking obviously is.
And not just that but the price is tanking simultaneously.
That tells me the smart money is buying the fuck out of it now while nigger price manipulators like JPM still have control because one day soon that control is going to slip with the economy how it is and there won't be a chance to buy it at manipulated prices again.
Even if you're right which you're not, I'm still close to my buy-in, I've lost NOTHING by hedging against a collapse with silver..

Show me your stacks now.

Recently got my first 100 oz bars and I'm not really a fan to be honest. I like the idea of so much silber in one item but I think I'll just stick to 10 oz ones in the future

>>51642293
Opinion on kilo bars? I love my kilos.

I came here to dunk on you stupid fucking PM fags. I told you dumb fucks gold was in a bubble and a speculative asset and you just called me retarded. How does it feel now you dumb shiny rock holders. I'm gonna dunk on you again when I'm buying your stupid fucking gold coins for $800. Dumb fucks

>>51642293
Agreed, but now that you have one, it's a great thing to have as a specimen.

>>51642315
>I love my kilos.
Ditto!

https://twitter.com/Frank_Giustra/status/1574325819920551938

>>51642363
i like it

>>51642315
Don't have any kilos, I like the idea of keeping my stack in even toz integers (except for the 90% stuff that I stack by face value)

>>51642356
Lets see who sells it to you at $800. I'm pretty sure you are incapable of buying from COMEX so STFU and buy the dips.

>>51642356
We don't have enough jigawatts to go back to the days of $800 gold. You'll be lucky to get $1600 at this point.

>>51642439
Kek - I used the idea of keeping even ozts to buy a quarter-ozt Au recently to round up. Now I'm 0.07 over, and I'm calling that good for now.

Reminder to the CIA. I will hoard silver and I will be happy

>>51642363
I thought about getting the 2022 elephant, but they sold out before I had funds to buy. I even forgot to get a 1 oz elephant on my last order, and now they're out of those too. Guess I won't be stacking any elephants!
But I did get one of these suckers instead, because the price was really good. I also have some of the 1 oz coins from this series, but not the really old ones because those are like $60 now.

>>51642284

lot more shills than usual....massive buy signal

also, in before tranny and janny faggots shit up the thread

>>51642439
Understandable, I stack in kgs and grams.

>>51642315
kilos are good

>>51642621
Wow - that's very cool!
Where are you buying?
I sort of have to get 'phants at least in 1ozt, 'cause my wife like them. So do I, really.

>>51642051
In case you're wondering, that pic is the same bar taken from 3 slightly different angles, The middle one is face-on. It's a 5 gram bar.

>>51643052
From here, they're out of stock on that one now but they got some others:
https://goldsilver.be/en/111-kilo

>>51643375
That site has very different and cool stuff. Shipping to Burgerland is 55 Euros though. Yikes! And I have no idea for int'l taxes.

Guten Abend

>>51643908
Guten Tag.

>>51642051
what is this resonance from? gold?

>>51642324
Fuck Jannies.

>>51644300
just a hologram they put on some bars, forgot the name of the mint, think it looks tacky personally

>>51644732
kek

>>51644300
Here's a full description.
https://www.jmbullion.com/5-gram-argor+heraeus-kinebar-gold-bar/
>The technology uses embossed holographic elements on the reverse face of gold bars. The hologram creates changing visual textures and colors as you adjusted the viewing angle of the bar.
Don't listen to this ignoramus:
>>51644750

>>51644868
it's a sticker mate, it doesn't make it special

>>51644946
You're misinformed by your own presumptions and arrogance, mate.
The technology is impressive.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinebar

>>51644991
yeh, nah, give me a ship

>>51644750
its a really nice security feature and looks like space money

buy them

>>51645023
If you wish.

>>51645051
There IS a caveat: Being gold (soft) and the engravings extremely fine, the surface is susceptible to wear and ruin. They really need the protection of the sleeves.

>>51645141
now we're talking

I bought the top again

>>51645274
How is this the top. My friend is selling me his PM stack rn. Should I wait?

crypto nerds will seethe

I added 40lbs to the stack over the weekend, no silver or gold at all available at the otherwise crappy estate sale but for just $10 this antique 1875 patent date functional ingot of blacksmith's bullion was the absolute best item there.

looking at getting some asahi rounds

I don't know what to do with my money anymore.

>>51646251
S
ST
STA
STAC
STACK

>>51642315
Please see
>>51642284

>>51642051
What do (You) think the floor will be for gold? I’m guessing it’ll bottom out at $1,500 before the impending recession

>>51642356
Not much going on in your life apparently. You might want to find a hobby or a GF or something.

>>51642284
Buying 10 maples next week.

>>51642363
I wish I had started stacking elephants when they first appeared.

Is buying GUSH at $80 a good idea?

>>51645023
>>51645141
I raise you a flying boat

I noticed that these threads have been getting pretty slow these past few weeks, is it finally over?

>>51642051
>Eye Candy edition
good afternoon gentlemen

>>51642284
jawohl mein fuhrer

>>51646867
Yes it's over. Sell it all.

>DXY: 114.07
>US10Y: 3.90

Holy fuck bros this is it, the rest of the world is collapsing into the dollar and soon thereafter the dollar dies an ignominious and long-overdue death.

>>51647029
Once the teacup and handle is formed, it will be to to the stars good old goyim.

>>51646867
Nahhh this always happens. Above $16-17 and below $20 it gets pretty slow. Same with gold. If it dips in to the 1500's you'll see it get more active same with once its back in the 1800s. Also crypto and shit is still falling so in general its gonna be a bit slower as everyone with weak hands and wills internalize the problem and attack everything else so shit just slows down.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/204101034565
is this a scam?

>>51647091
lol it looks like some 16 year old is trying to sell his shit that's been sitting in a shoebox in a closet for years.

>>51645921
They're one of my favorite generic rounds right now.

>>51646952
those your euro gold? I'm considering getting some since the premiums are so much lower than Indian Heads or AGEs.

GDXJ is approaching its 5Y low, should we buy in? I really want to, but the fact it could go even lower is making me hesitate.

can't believe i fell for the silver $30-40 meme
shits about to crash below 15

>>51647341
What about making two purchases? You can DCA that way.

>>51646820
Nice shot!
I prefer the coins exposed though.
How about a floatplane?

>>51647324
>those your euro gold?
yezzir

do it. gold is gold, except when it's 90% gold and 10% copper then its even better because you can fondle it and keep it out of plastic.

>>51646735
It's a motif my wife and I seem to like.

>>51645023
>>51645141
>>51646716
These EIC bars are fucking sweet! My dealer doesn't have them, but I got this kilo instead. It's not as nice but the price was very good.
And actually I'm not sure they'll send me this exact one. They also have Cook Island "Bounty" coin bars, and probably others too. It just says different bar & year, so can't really pick on out, it's random.

Now that markets are closed for the day, is it worth it to pick up more silver tonight, or should I wait through the rest of the week to see if it will dump even more?

I think theres going to be a spike up in prices tomorrow morning, if for no other reason than because it dumped so hard today... but I can't predict any further than that in the short term.

>>51642284
Der Reichsbank grows to 311 troy ounces

All those tubes have 20 ounces in them.

>>51648055
Dubs checked.
I'm sure the coin bars will deliver satisfaction.
I haven't specifically looked for them, but haven't come across any of my usual vendors' "New Arrivals" listings with big-bar yet very generic-looking coins.

>>51648243
>Denominated in dollars
That's illegal and the feds can legally confiscate that from you. Will they? Probably not but why give them an excuse?

>>51648458
fijian dollars, dingdong

>>51648497
You think they care? If it says >dollar then they can fuck you whenever they want.

>>51647855
Checked, They do look better undressed lol. The next boat plane coin will def be my fondler lol.

>>51647953
Did you cut that out yourself?

Just came up to 400oz silver and 3 oz gold.
Am I making it yet?

>>51646333
C
CH
CHE
CHEC
CHECK
CHECKE
CHECKED

>>51648777
triple checked
stamped
sealed
kekd

>>51648817
>88
And blessed by the Führer no less

>>51648677
Dubs so yes

>>51648458
>>51648618
The US isn't the only country that uses dollars. But you know that, stop being daft.

>>51646333
>>51648777

>Tripled Checked

>>51648873
Yeah and you know the fed is run and owned by jews who do nothing but jew all day long every day since the fed was created in 1913 on the day of the jew.

So why would you take any risk of getting jewed for no reason?

>>51647952
Holding them was one of the reasons I want them. I'm so autistic about not touching my preemies so I wanted something to handle. An ex-jewelry grade would be ideal for that I think.

>>51648458
That's why they killed the queen - because she put "dollar" on her coin.

Bros why are older britannias £100 more than current year ones? I just want a fucking guilloche britannia

>>51649344
Those are soo cool!

>>51648458
>>51648618
I thought you were kidding, but you continued.
whew, lad

>>51642284
Ja, mein fuhrer.

>>51649344
Where did you get those Chervonets?

>>51642284
>>51649720
Kharlie Khaplin Khads unite

when?

>gold is dumping
>/pmg/ is dead
Are most posters just moonboy fags?

>>51650611
October

>>51651019
ok but how many BJs will a merc buy NOW???

>>51651079
0

>>51651019
We're just sitting here waiting for the milkshake to be drunk

>>51651019
Nah I'm planning on getting about 350 toz here in a couple days

>>51642324
These and and the Bog coins are really ugly. Wish it had as much details as the WAGMI coins. Anonymint, you getting lazy or what?

>>51651079
You could still get one from a lot lizard. Crackheads and poor whites think anything older than 60 years is a priceless antique.

>>51651328
>>51651079
I bought $10 of merc dimes

>>51651355
I need to buy more mercs desu

Noticed that a 10 ounce silver bar is just about perfect wrist support for the angle I use my mouse

>>51651656
A 1 kilo silver bar is a fantastic way to melt Ice cream quickly

Stopped by my lcs. I usually just hit up the pawn, but also stopped at the coin shop today. For some reason he had all these at spot. $60 for the lot.

>>51642051
Thinking out loud, but would like discusison.
Precious metals borne of a labor crisis? Eg. Hypothetically, the state, tied to the bank, thus tied to the collective and corporate profiteering favors foreign labor and convoluted foreign trade, which changes how currency circulates, which means that the currency loses home value for those that can't compete in the new market: ie. people lose jobs at car factory but still participate in economy = currency becomes tied to fast spending rather than cumulative circulation based upon tradeable assets = inflation. If you can compete in the new market, you can make money with the new speculative methods, (onlyfans, crypto, 'work from home emarketing' etc) which increases inflation, but also paves way for new kinds of jobs. So the whole question is if people will take to the new markets or not. If they don't, system reconsolidation. But system reconsolidation has always perpetuated the system. So essentially, the house always wins and the best option is to develop a new skillset, a way of playing the house. So it's basically the same kind of problem that an unskilled person has now. So let me ask you: do you all expect to be future employers and what kind of jobs will you be managing, roughly speaking?

>>51652408
>do you all expect to be future employers
Yes, of at least a dozen energetic young workers

>what kind of jobs will you be managing
Blowjobs of course

>>51652293
Very nice haul

Finally got my goldbacks in. Got two of each denomination.

>>51647522
try $12

My mail came in. another tube of Krugs.

>>51652613
based krug tube enjoyer
I'm waiting for my fourth tube of krugs to ship from bold early next month

>>51647522
>>51652586
Awesome. More cheapies. Only a retard looks at this market and thinks it’s time to sell their silver.
But if you must, the banks will be happy to buy it all off you at $10/oz, i am confident of this given how much they are lapping up the physical metal these days.

>>51652579
I didn't know wyoming has goldbacks. I got all denominations of utah, new hampshire and nevada

>>51652760
Wyoming is the newest addition.
I’m hoping for Arizona next.

>>51652760
I found out about them a couple months ago. They just came out last week. Up till then I didn't realize anyone was making goldbacks again. I have to get the other states now.

>>51652633
Heck yeah Fren. I'm working on a monster box, this tube puts me at 175. Also, checked.

Anyone know where I can get one of these? Apparently they are so collectable chinks and others are making counterfeit counterfeits.

>>51652822
i think south dakota was next. but the wyoming was supposed to put months ago so God knows when SD will happen.

>>51652579
i wish i would've pre-ordered when i had the chance to get mine. i didn't think they'd be so popular or at least sell out so fast.
how much was your set? defythegrid has the set on preorder for $300.

>>51642051
Is mevancy.com legit? No way these fuckers are selling Morgan silver dollars for $19

>>51652989
Those are silver Eagles in your picture. Even so $19 sounds like total bullshit for an ASE.

>>51652989
>mevancy.com
If it sounds too good to be true...
https://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/mevancy.com

>>51652667
oh well see you at $10

>>51652822
>>51652887
I just ordered one of each. I'm not a numismatic type of guy but I acquired enough over the years that I start to collect certain stuff. And the goldbacks are really cool in the hand.

how are all the PM friends today?

>>51652408
Your new jobs need to actually be productive, things like crypto, onlyfans, and emarketing are only sustainable in the current environment.

>>51652945
649 for 2 sets, so a little higher than that but I ordered them awhile back when gold was higher.

>>51653158
I ordered 2 sets so I can get one set graded and protected to stay in mint condition. Other set is to play with. They do look really good in person.

>>51642051
Ughhhhh puts are free money rn, but I keep buying more PMs, this is literally against my financial interests lol This is becoming a problem

>>51653522
Don't fight it, stack moar

>>51642324
When?

>Went to Perth Mint first thing this morning

>Clerk says they are almost out, no gold over ounce and only 1oz silver coins and almost no bars of silver

>Line behind me now goes out the front of the mint, exasperated clerk asks me what's happening, this has been going on all last week.

Thanks for the timely advice PMG, I think I just woke up in time.

>>51653800
What's in the bags?

>>51654012
Nothing to write home about but a start.

>>51652989
>No way these fuckers are selling Morgan silver dollars for $19
Seems you've answered your own question

>>51654131
Fren, you got a gold coin and a kilo plus some. Happy for you.

Added a bit.

Sadly I dont see silver taking off until everything else is fucked.

Back in the 2020 I bought a tube of 2020 type 1 silver eagles for $400.
I still have that same tube to this day and I am wondering if I should find a dealer who is willing to trade them in for a tube of 25 maples.
Is it a good idea?

>>51654203
Thanks mate.

>>51654229
>silver will be last

Silver is the bottom of exeters pyramid for a reason.

>>51653732
now on the site
>>51651280
What more would you like to add to it? It's been tossed around a lot the last months

>>51651328
>>51651651
merc nation with more bangers (not unusual)

>>51648636
>Did you cut that out yourself?
Kek... no... beyond my talent level.
https://www.boldpreciousmetals.com/product/3356/2021-solomon-islands-africa-elephant-1-oz-silver-reverse-proof-shaped-coin

>>51654304
I tried looking for a higher quality version of this image with no luck, but I did find this amazing image.

>>51654267
It sounds reasonable to me.
I just don't know why I'd do it.

>>51654876
http://www.sovereignman.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/LiquidityPyramid.pdf

its huge

>>51654727
You know ya boys always postin bangers
Although I do need to make some new ones soon.

>>51654983
>>51654955
>>51654876
>>51654828
>>51654727
https://pastebin
.com/1UKc6jLs

>>51654983
>http://www.sovereignman.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/LiquidityPyramid.pdf

Noice. I'll have to make a png version of this.

Also I decided to recreate that image I posted earlier so it's much bigger.

>>51655063
I ain't clickin' that shit.

>>51655171
>>51655074
>>51655063
>>51655042
>>51654983
https://pastebin
.com/1UKc6jLs

>>51654304
>>51654876
>>51654983
>its huge

Done it. Remember to save.

>>51648817
rounded box chain chad

>>51655042
Make something with the 24 karat Gold mercury dime the US mint made

Evening fellas

>>51655531
based

>>51655198
>>51655063
HELO SERS GOOD MORNING TO. YOU IS YOU IS REDEEM FOR CRYPTO TRADE SERS?
>>51655495
Hmmm yes the ultimate merc. Good idea

Ugh, I just bought this for $40. How badly did I fuck up?

>>51655801
>imagine paying $40 for fucking zinc

>>51655801
You paid for a box enclosing a run-of-the-mill silver bullion coin from Ching Chong. The box will provide a profitable return only if you sell to a(nother) fool.
Not to say I'm guiltless in the overpayment department.

>>51652919
>Anyone know where I can get one of these? Apparently they are so collectable chinks and others are making counterfeit counterfeits.
kek

>>51652919
Thicc liberty girls thecc af.

>>51652919
>chinks and others are making counterfeit counterfeits.
They counterfeit anything. Go to Aliexpress or Alibaba and do a search on
Coin Copy
or similar. Spend a few hours. Makes you wonder if anything's real. It's their *culture*.

>>51653266
makes me happy i waited.
don't feel bad, i got into PMs at the ATH so i'm dca for the rest of my life.

PUUUMPA

>>51652579
I know Goldbacks are retarded, but I want one the longer I look at them

>>51656521
Just buy a cheap one then, you can get some for under $20

Is getting pre 1950s Brit sovereigns a good option? Will they be sellable in the future at good prices?

Platinum is the easiest x10 I've ever seen. I recommend all stackers that want to make it big to focus on it for the next 6 months.

>>51654267
No

>>51656742
I have found sovereigns to be pretty liquid, I think high quality sovereigns in good condition with lower mintage will always be popular to collectors

>>51656753
yeah ur 100% right but none of these fags can resist the silver mind-virus.

>Ooooooo I can get like 40 silvers for 1 plat!!! Gainz multiplier!!

>>51657269
>>51656753
Elaborate

Oh boy, silver only has to go up 40% before I break even. I'm even down on my gold. Thanks, jews.

>>51657411
i've elaborated so many times bro, just DYOR.

You either go platinum or you don't buy Any metals if you think the whole werks is coming down.

Saw this coin earlier, wouldn't mind seeing an up to date version minted.

it's official, next years coins will have Chuck on them

>>51650037
Degussa

Mooooom, some guy from Reddit keeps stealing /PMG/ posts!

>>51657735
God save Chuckie. I'm gonna miss the old lizard though.

dammit spot stop climbing. just dip just below 18 again so I can hit purchase then you can pop back up you bipolar fucking RNG basterd bitch

first hunt of the year.

>>51657735
It's obvious he's going to be on 2023 coins, but what we want to know is whether Lizzie was still going to be minted until then.

>>51658650
George V: Class act

>>51656170
People can counterfeit numismatic coins and it might take an expert to figure it out. Even then, experts are fooled sometimes. But nobody can counterfeit PM bullion coins and rounds in a way that is not easily detected. So if you are stacking bullion, fear not. Buy from a reputable dealer or learn to test. Only God can make silver and gold.

>>51658761
Of course I clicked the wrong reply.
>>51658761
>>51658650
I've never had the heart to eat squirrel, but my dogs love it.

>>51658761
I really hope his coins says CAROLVS TERTIVS REX D:G:BR:OMN:REX:F:D

If a Merc dime is worth a BJ, what does a War Nickel get me?

>>51658914
>Only God can make silver and gold.
Technically wrong, transmutation is a thing but it's vastly more expensive a process than mining.

Hearing that PM retailers in britbong land are running out of metals, seems that we're heading towards the end game.

>>51657265
I see that generally the prices go up for london even though there is much lower mintage on Australian or african. The Canadian are overpriced by simps because they printed 50K only a year.
So London seems to be preferred. The market is weird. Does the collecting premium go up the older a coin gets?

Picked up 4x ASE's from the LCS yesterday for an even $100. $25 ASE's is literally my 'back up the truck' price. They have small scratches, but idc I'm super happy with the purchase. The 5th is from a recent online auction for $28 and the bracelet is a chunky 27g of 925 that I got from a recent yard sale for $1.

>>51659390
Must be nice. My LCS is run by a bunch of jews. Want some Junk silver? 24x! Want some ASEs? $16 over spot! It's as if APMEX is setting up storefronts around the country.
It's fucking horrible. Need to go somewhere else.

Platinum investor here.
Platinum at this point is essentially a bet on fuel cell tech and shorting Russia and South Africa. I think it is a pretty good bet IF the global economy recovers quickly from the almost inevitable shitstorm about to engulf it. But I think silver and gold both have better prospects in a broader range of economic scenarios. Both silver and gold are historical repositories of wealth in hard times. Both have been monetary metals from prehistory. Both have industrial uses.

I think platinum is very cool and has a place in a diverse PM portfolio. But I would not suggest people buy it until they are well-settled in silver and gold. People who insult you while they shill their alternative should be ignored.

>>51659213
I suppose you are correct if you mean the creation of microgram quantities in particle accelerators. I was being dramatic.

>>51659475
The teeny-tiny market cap on platinum should have everyone licking their chops over the very real possibility of Rhodium style movements if large capital inflows start looking for new homes after fleeing the bond & stock market. I agree with you that silver and gold are where people should start, but definitely have some skin in the game when it comes to some of these other metals. Back in 2009 platinum was 2x the price of gold. Palladium was 1/5th the price of gold. I would love to get an ounce of palladium but think 100oz of silver will be the better at this point as palladium has already started its movement higher in the PM bull market.

>>51659430
where are you Anon?
i'm thrilled that my LCS isn't a jew.
they've sold me various government gold at spot price because they were throwing it in the burnpit anyway.

>>51657735
>>51657821
Kinda stating the obvious aren't they? The real question is when

>>51659390
>bracelet is a chunky 27g of 925 that I got from a recent yard sale for $1.

Based and scrap-pilled. If it's by a desirable designer you may be able to flip it for $50-150 and go buy several more of the cheap "cull" ASEs. Paying boomer APMEX retail premiums on eagles is retarded but more than a few coin shops sell imperfect ones for generic prices, stacking those is much more sensible.

>>51657735
He wont be king for long, the not very united kingdom only has a few short years left so get your hands on any coins with this pedo cultist on them.

>>51659851
Thanks fren. It's admittedly a cherry-picked 'win' for me. It takes a lot of driving to find those hits which costs money in gas. It's still a great way to spend a Saturday morning for a treasure hunter. I can't find the mark on 925-1000.com under American Pictorial marks, but maybe you have a better idea of where to look.

>>51659134
A rough impersonal hj

>>51660038
>It's admittedly a cherry-picked 'win' for me. It takes a lot of driving to find those hits which costs money in gas. It's still a great way to spend a Saturday morning for a treasure hunter.

I don't recognize the mark but will look around, my hunch is it's a vintage Mexican or southwestern Indian piece but I could be way off. I understand that if you're *only* looking for cheap PMs then blindly roving around thrift stores and estate/garage sales is often not worth the time, but I have a good nose for antiques, appliances, books, tools and collectibles and will buy all sorts of stuff to flip or keep in my hoard of valuable or useful items, I can't overstress the importance of keeping an eye open for anything and everything that might be a lucrative flip, and if you're uncertain you can just pull out your phone and search eBay to see what completed items sell for. I posted this antique anvil earlier (babby 40lb one on top of my big Chad anvil), a desirable $250 piece bought for $10 Saturday morning. They had no silver or gold at all but I got 2 books worth $40, some tools to use and the iron chunkyboi for $22 total. If I was only looking for PMs I would have wasted the 45 minutes and $1 worth of gas. Good luck hunting and keep an open mind fren!

>>51647522
checked
>thinking the "spot" price is relevant to the market price.
Krugs still sell for damn near $30, anon.

>>51659493
>I was being dramatic.
And limited. Except for some helium in fusion reactors, *no*element is anthropogenic.

>>51654131
keep at it, anon.
YGMI.

>>51659851
It’s not retarded. Eagle premiums will continue to surge. I won’t be surprised if they reach 200% in the next scramble for silver. You’ll make way more on eagles than generic. They are also a very liquid coin and always worth stacking.

>>51660747
Imagine believing all of this shit instead of knowing that god created everything.
>inb4 star-dust children telling me how much they love science.

>>51660823
I agree. 1oz Eagles will be literally worth the same as 1oz of gold while I wouldn't even sell you a carton of eggs for a 10oz generic silver bar.

I am still holding Bayhorse

>>51660823
silver is silver at the end of the day; the premiums on eagles are dumb

also type 2s are gayer than fuck

>>51660917
same here, 25000 shares.

>>51660823
I'm not so sure. The gains to be made on silver will be high enough that your best bet is stacking for quantity.
Silver Eagles are the lever being used to prop up the physical price via premiums, so the banks can keep the spot price low in the derivative market. The physical supply of metals is so low that all silver will command a premium the second the need to escape financial assets really sinks into the psyche of the masses. 5 ounces of generic will always be better than 3 ounces of ASEs, imo. If silver does eventually moon shot, the number of ounces you lost buying premium silver could add up to a small fortune depending on how much you have.
That is not to say that you should have NO eagles or NO junk silver. You should have some of all of it. But after a certain point you should be stacking for quantity. Imagine $100 silver, back of the envelope math shows that 5generic could be $500 or 3ASEs could be $300. Are you so sure that you can recover 2 whole ounces worth of premium from ASEs? What if silver hits $200, or even $1000? The bet on ASEs at these ridiculous prices gets worse and worse. (Depending on the actual price you can acquire ASEs, of course. If you get a good deal on them then but them up for $1-2 premium over the generic. My LCS adds on like $8-9 over the generic premium which is absurd.)

>>51660917
>fell for the memes

id sell whatever you can. going to zero

>>51661037
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nah , just gonna hold and hope J pow reverses course. not worth selling at a loss and then watch it go way up again in 24 months

>>51660917
Samesies. I am thinking about vacuuming up some cheapies on various mining stocks that I used to own. If they can survive this crash in pricing and are able to stay in business (Their product being PMs is fantastic capital to secure financing from royalty companies) then they should be great speculations. Luckily oil prices have fallen, but I think now is a great time to place some bets on the more speculative mining stocks.

>>51661056
it was getting crushed even before the free money tap from the fed got cut off

its a scam

>>51661006
>>51661032
Bros, don't be idiots. This is moronic thinking. Silver Eagles are super rare and will be worth millions if you just pay the extra premium now.

>>51660823
>It's not retarded to buy ASEs from APMEX at retail instead of ASEs for $25 or less from a LCS.

You do you eggnog, good luck with the speculation that premiums will eventually go to 200%, I prefer to invest in what's actually undervalued at present not speculate on dubious potentialities.

>>51661099
fucking retard

>>51661115
Lurk moar

>>51661090
doesn't matter, if silver goes up all miners will eventually get pulled along with it

>>51661082
>>51661056
I just completely forgot I was holding it.

>>51660847
Why would you assume I don't believe in God?
Or why God didn't create the universe using this mechanism?
If you were explaining the universe to a newly-hatched intelligence that you wanted to keep innocent, why and how would you explain all this?
Imagine not using your God-given brain.

>>51660823
I think the only benefit eagles have is that they are officially minted by the US. There are other nations coins that essentially have the same credibility. I can understand why someone bartering may not trust a silvertowne batman coin, but that's vastly different than a weiner or leaf, which has the same credibility

Friendly reminder that the American Silver Eagle™ is the most rare, the most well made and well designed (especially type 2), and the most sought after coin in the existance of human history and if you don't stack them then you're not going to WAGMI fren. Simple as. The premiums on the American Silver Eagle™ are totally worth it. Even of the premiums go up 10,000% (and they will)! If you don't stack the American Silver Eagle™ then I hate you and you're probably gay (please don't have sex with me).

Pic related, it's him.

>>51661254
Look bros, if you don't exclusively stack BU ASE's from APMEX you're just an idiot moron.

>>51661285
Simple as.

>>51661254
ASEs are how they prop up physical silver. The mint is likely hoarding their ASE production and selling them to large banks and billionaires behind the scenes while also making physical less available to the plebs.
As a stacker with a finance degree who was around in 2008-9, everything going on today feels like we are getting dangerously close to "the big one". It feels like people are sneaking onto the lifeboats as we speak and we are getting close to the point where people should be selling off everything and nailing their furniture to the floor.

>>51660747
The point, gentlemen, was that thieves can fake numismatics but not precious metals.

>>51661254
buy em by the monster box for the volume discount

>>51661354
Shitpoating aside, what do you recommend regular individuals do now?

>>51661363
Point humbly taken.

>>51661170

>all miners up if

no they wont; bayhorse has to produce to be profitable...it doesnt

>>51661415
It doesn't hurt to have a bit in the stock market now - it's relatively low.
My typical copypasta to answer "what should I buy" is more like, "Here are some options to consider."
- For generic bars with no design, watch the markups over spot: premiums (added charges) go up for smaller pieces. When selling, your buyer may insist on spot price.
- When a new series of artful or themed bullion (especially coins) comes out, the first of the series are usually missed by later collectors. They will pay high premiums to fill in the series. Ponder the potential for series popularity: generic and/or cringeworthy-themed series have higher failure rates.
- Interesting coins cost least while they're still being minted. Once the mintage stops and dealers run out of stock the prices jump, then rise more slowly but still faster than generic silver. Maples, Eagles, Wieners, Britannias, etc. are all nice but boring. The mint may add a privy to make them more collectible (creating a series) and gin up the price. Buy stuff that changes overall designs from year to year: Somali elephants, Canadian Wildlife, Australian kookaburras or koalas, island nations' series, etc. These become series.
- If you buy pieces that appeal to your sense of art, taste, and interests, they will still feel good even if the price or value of the PM goes nowhere. Caveat: if you go to sell, it's harder to part with them.
- Some beautiful generics are priced comically high (Germanias, e.g.) - they don't follow the market trends as readily, and usually garner highest resale price only for a few years after the mintage. The drawback: dealers may categorize these as "generic" and price them as generic when buying them from you.
- If free shipping is offered, buy enough to take advantage of that. Although it's shipping (not directly PM), it's an added premium.
- Keep a spreadsheet of your purchases!!! You should track profit/loss over time. It's quite revealing.

>>51661254
Updooted, please enjoy the gold kind stranger!

Also please remember that only ASEs are real silver and able to be authenticated by sight alone.

Everything else is fake silver and will need to be chopped in half and analyzed extensively before a generous but naive dealer might condescend to offer at the absolute maximum perhaps 80% of spot price for it.

Also remember that well-established secondary market values for anything besides ASEs are fake, it's impossible for anyone to sell anything but ASEs directly to another stacker for over 80% of spot.

>>51661470
Oh, you're photoanon. Thanks for the bullion pasta, but I'm already pretty deep into metals now (I just like em!). I was mostly asking about how people should navigate this "big one" other than buying shiny things and securing our furniture to our floors with hand tools. Is a good idea to have cash on hand? Slurp crypto? Try and buy real estate? Etc. How should regular people with 9 to 5s financially plan this impending economic doom as you foresee it?

>>51661622
This (:

>>51661440
company doesn't have to be profitable for the stock to go up, you already know this

i'm not going to relitigate the merits of bayhorse if the silver price goes to 30+, we know its a shit stock but for speculation at least gram doesn't have any more excuses

>>51661113
Same here. I bought eagles when the premiums were barely $1 above generic. Now I’m sitting pretty. If you bought cheap generic, you’re in the red.

>>51661233
They are the most liquid coin. Sorry but that counts for a lot. When you go to sell, you want liquidity. With eagles you can sell in a couple hours on Craigslist and get most of your premium back.

>>51661032
You’re an idiot. Here is the actual math. If the premiums stay constant it doesn’t matter what you buy. But i’m predicting that eagles premiums will increase relative to other rounds/coins. There is a lot of data to support this. Regardless, a liquid coin like the eagle is always good to own. If you’re stack is comprised entirely of silvertowne buffalos, you’re a moron.

>>51661254
This is true but buy from boomers on craigslist and LCSs only or you will get raped

>>51661254
Nobody cares about those overpriced eagles outside burgerland, kek. Half my stack is arks, the rest britannias and wieners. Somehow a lone tube of maples snuck in there (it's actually the very first silver I bought).

>>51660747
Those are all natural processes, though. Smashing matter together in a big circular tube isn't.

Maybe someone can actually make a case against the Eagle. Here is the case for it: In 2020, the premium was barely $1 higher than bargain bin generic. That was the time to load up. If you were a dumb/cheap piece of shit, and actually believe “silver is silver”, you missed out on a lot of gains. No worries, the premiums will continue to increase. Why are eagle premiums outpacing all other coins and rounds? Firstly, they are extremely desired due to its liquidity. Everyone in the US stacks eagles. What do rich people buy to safeguard their wealth? Silver and gold eagles. The US mint is having sourcing and production issues for the last 2 years. This will only continue as the silver market tightens. The eagle is always the first product sold out. Just like it 2020. The only place to buy eagles will probably be the private market where you will see insane premiums. Do you like to “stack weight”. Sure, we all do. But the type of weight you stack matters. Spend the extra on the eagles and keep the weight constant. Practically, it’s best to diversify your stack. But eagles should make a significant portion of it. That’s how you maximize gains.

>>51662113
fuck off autismo

Why is the far right obsessed with gold?

>>51662221
Memecoins on national news when

>>51661354
Maybe it's to artificially limit how much silver people can allocate into their IRA? I don't know all the rules on that, or if people can use coins other than US mint.

>>51661640
Stack food, water filtration, fuel, tools, seeds, chickens, whatever you can to make yourself more independent from next years' bad crops, and any supply chain failures.

>>51662189
Stop with the poorfag cope. It’s irrational anyway as I have showed that you’ll make the same gains on eagles as any other silver if premiums stay constant. If I’m going to make x% gains on silver, I’d rather be holding the most liquid silver there is (eagles). You may legitimately be concerned about premiums on eagles dropping, but literally no data suggests that. Everything suggests that the us mint will continue to have issues. As I have said before, I write this for the lurkers in the thread. Not some fag that can’t see the value in eagles and a well diversified stack.

>>51662347
don't forget the deenz

>>51662347
I’m stacking chickens too. People that pay with eagles get a discount.

>>51642601
he was so ahead of his time

>>51661640
Yep - it's me. Hope that's not a bummer.
Ah - I didn't understand.
Personally, I have fingers in several pies, because I really can't predict the future. I do keep about 4 months' worth of expenses in the bank because I optimistically think I can get another job within that time frame if I lose the current one. Then I have a Roth IRA for purchasing individual stocks, a 401k-like account for index funds (half is in the cash account there), and the home itself are the big stores of 'wealth', such as it is. Also, the house is the only debt I have. It is important to pay all bills on time, but the house is too big a draw.

>>51662383
I started buying ASEs for this reason, the mint is only going to continue to decline. I'm also stocking up on US .350, .400, and Canadian .800 silver coins since the premiums on those will likely continue to widen as well.

>>51662423
People that didn't buy eagles had enough left over to stack their own chickens.

>>51662574
Ah, good advice. Never a bummer talking with photoanon! I too diversify and avoid debts. Kinda feel like we just won't know how to navigate whatever is unfolding though. Seems like an precedented economic situation. 4 months of expenses seems smart though, and I'd wager enough of a stop gap for me to find another job too. However, if the job market continues to cool, who knows. I used to have recruiters hit me up multiple times a week from good companies. Now it's like once every other week from vary degrees of companies. I also suspect layoffs are on the horizon for companies in NASDAQ, the DOW and S&P...

>>51662238
Speaking of meme coins. Where can I order Megumin coins?

>>51662874
I'm the other guy

>>51661415
I am not totally sure. The Fed will no doubt step in and continue to inflate which could lower bond yields. But given the severity of what is going on, it feels like we are dangling from a cut rope, that only has but one single strand holding us up. The Fed is out of ammo, GME short squeeze could be catastrophic, bond yields are rising and the whole economy will stall out if credit contracts. We're like a heroin junky who will die of withdrawal if we stop, and the only smart play seems to be to literally get out of the ponzi scheme.
Full disclosure, I am roughly 50%/50% in stocks and PMs. I keep some risk in the game to acquire some dividends (probably 50% of my stocks are GME, 40%PM 10% other dividend paying large caps that will probably survive the turmoil). I look at my portfolio daily for things to trim so I can afford a another large PM purchase.
I do want exposure to stocks for the income, and the safety of something like a melt-up.
I am fortunate to be in the position to where if I fuck up, I am not losing life-altering sums of money. If I had hundreds of thousands of dollars I would be far more weighted on the PM train in some form or fashion.
The central banks are not stupid. They may damn well be enacting some egalitarian plans here. If the financial system allows the ownership to become too "top-heavy", then you suffer from too many people procuring resources without actually working. They may need to destroy the 1%, and the best thing for the economy is going to be the destruction of the bond market, and along with it so goes the stock and real estate market. With no "bubble" economy popping up in its wake. It could take 15-20 years for things to really pick back up given the extent of the malinvestment from the last 70 years of Breton Woods. We don't know.
Given all of this. I recommend keeping your head to the ground. Invest in the fundamentals. PMs, farming, mining, production, manufacturing.

>>51661802
Sorry dude, you are wrong. Premiums of this magnitude are a function of the distortions to supply/demand. The closer we get to actualizing the real price of silver the market will clear far more efficiently than it does today.
A $1000 ASE will not command a 50% premium as there will be millions of eagles on the market at that price. This is far too elementary of a concept for you to not understand.,.

>>51662221
why did they choose a stock image of marx in a city skyline?

>>51662221
The importance of banking is not hard to understand. It is an absolute powerhouse and the single most important 'player' in contemporary history. It falls in the center of everything, and the wealth extraction features it employs are very easy to understand.

>>51662243
The U.S. Mint says it is only producing a fraction of what they have been able to do in preceding years. I think they have a backlog of powerful elite they are servicing with product behind the scenes. The Treasury is being looted as we speak at rock bottom prices.
Sure, it is conspiratorial, but that is exactly what I would be doing if I had a billion dollars that I wanted to protect. There are millions of millionaires who are losing 10%+ of their purchasing power, and they are no idiots.
The important thing for the plebs to do is to trust their gut. PM price crash is all a head-fake.

My stak.

>>51642356
As a europoor I have to say that you are wrong.

>>51662932
Smart! I recently allocated most of my 401(k) into energy and farming, something that would have been kinda dumb to go all in on a year or 2 ago. If I had the cash, I'd 100% buy farm land.

>>51663213
I love this!

new EIC coins just dropped. Rate it, or nah?

1/2

actually 2/3, there's a third

3/3

>>51662238
>>51662221
Suprised they didn't shit talk gold and silver when the Buffalo incident happened. Guess if he was from pmg instead of r/pmsforsale then it'd be different. The media would have a field day over it for sure.
(Picrel I made this in honor of the kweenz who dies that day)

>>51663286
Thank you.
As political charged as economics is concerned, the Austrian School has some great insights into the fundamentals and inner workings of an economy that can help keep your grounded as an investor. As impressive as all of the charts, data, analysis are, all of that are a function of the financial sector that can only OVERLAY an economy. And given the nature of finance deriving from exponential functions, it's own self destruction is an inevitability. The ability of the country/economy/banking system to procure an exponential amount of resources is impossible, and I am not sure that everyone who invests really grasps or understands the environment we are in.
People unironically invest in TSLA not understanding that it cannot exist without government subsidy from a bankrupt government. People unironically invest in crypto currencies in a time of near universal bankruptcy/shortfall of resources. All measurements of account are going to be fundamentally revalued once we come to terms with what we can all afford to pay for as taxpayers, as providing liquidity in lieu of capital investments have a saturation point and have long since been returning any positive ROI. The U.S. GDP has not expanded since 1983 if you net-out the increases in debt since that time. Never ending, exponential increases in debt are nothing short of disaster, and the "service economy" with a citizenry that can't come up with $2000 within a single week is no reason to be bullish.
The fundamentals: The currency became a plaything of the banks. It has been all but ruined, and we are simply waiting for that truth to manifest itself, hence why we all opt out to own the physical capital. Ready and waiting to buy back in once the pieces fall where they may.

>>51663338
I like this one, but I really wish she didn't have a big knobbly cucumber in her hand

>>51663338
She looks like she is stroking a massive strap on dildo that is molded into the form a giant shit.

>>51663656
haha yeh, I just said >>51663656

>>51663671
How is a massive pickle Rick strap on a queen's virture???

>>51663656
>She looks like she is stroking a massive strap on dildo that is molded into the form a giant shit.

And the coin is referred to as Virtues and Courage.

>>51663549
Big brain post. Do you subscribe to the dollar menu milkshake theory? I have been reading and watching stuff on it lately.

>>51663756
She is stunning and brave desu.

>>51663771
I have heard a little bit about it. It makes sense, but it is also the precursor for every participant to throw their hands up and say "fuck it!" You can't just keep throwing good money after bad, and an ever-strengthening dollar vacuuming up all of your capital is one of those black-swan events where everyone starts transacting in something else.
It's an interesting thought, that the dollar system can be destroyed by strength instead of weakness. It all alludes to some serious disconnect and the best play is to have one foot solidly outside of the ponzi and in PMs. I don't have any significant insights on it though.

>>51663338
>>51663361
>>51663370
0/10 no tits

>>51663936
very true

>>51663549
>hence why we all opt out to own the physical capital. Ready and waiting to buy back in once the pieces fall where they may.

Who says we're all waiting to buy back in when the problem is the fiat itself. We should be trading in weights, not random central bank numbers. All of today's problems come from this central body determining the value of everything. This debt slavery system can get fucked for all I care.

>>51663955
I'm not selling anything until the bond market implodes and is written off and the losses actualized. Via default or hyperinflation. Doesn't matter to me. That is the source of the threat to all of us. That is the pent-up leverage timebomb that we all see ticking.

>>51663700
CUCUMIS * RICKUS
Eh, at this point I'd rather just get the EIC ship bar. Already got the truth and napoleon angel coins (BU version).

>>51664231
>when she pulls out after he nuts

>>51661032
>You should have some of all of it. But after a certain point you should be stacking for quantity.
You're not an idiot, fren. This is a good response and is exactly what I do. These other anons are just jealous that they're too poor to be selective about what they stack. My personal stack is probably 50% bars and generics, 10% constitutional, 10% vintage, 5% numismatics and collectible shit for fun, and the rest is government-minted coins. This is a rough estimate. Before anyone says I'm not doing my part, go take a hike. I have more than enough, to the point where I don't care to brag about it publicly.

>>51663338
>>51663361
>>51663370
I'm looking forward to getting the proofs and if ever available, the BUs too.

>>51663493
>when the Buffalo incident happened
Newfag here what’s this?

>>51642051
I've got a question: the yearly production of copper is round about 20.000.000 t and silver is 24.000 t. Copper costs round about 7,22 USD spot per kilo and silver costs 590 USD spot per kilo. (For relation: yearly gold production is 3.000 t and the price per kilo 52.400 USD). But the electrical conductivity of silver is only slightly better than copper. So silver will increase in value further only when either hyperinflation hits or silver is used as monetary metal again, right?

>>51664583
Sheeit, is gold seriously that overvalued?

>>51664442
I got a meeting with my lawyer tomorrow. Finally getting the settlement all taken care of. Fuckin bitch from CA hit me and didn't have adequate coverage. Lives in a shit hole in East LA. I think I'm going to put 10% to PM's get anew laptop then put the rest towards the mortgage.

>>51664583
God damn i hate how you guys switch , and .


Silver in my opinion has much more room to grow although both are way undervalued. Silver has from my understanding more practical industrial uses than gold so at some point the GSR will shift to a more 1 to 5 at some point.

>>51652408
I will either keep on working in agriculture here in Europe or go to India. I think it is an interesting future economy.

>>51664681
Sounds like you met a raiders fan

>>51663887
Yeah, it's an interesting theory. Every doomer theory is interesting desu. I honestly don't think anyone knows what will happen though, which is why I diversify.

>>51664583
I'm not convince silver is going to "moon." Even if hyperinflation hits, it's price will increase only in the currencies of the countries hit - and in the past, that was restricted to one country due to mismanagement.
As for supply, silver isn't on the USGS list of "critical minerals." If anyone non-partisan would have authority to say so, it'd be them.
Right now silver is pretty low, but it has been $5 less in the last decade - which isn't really long ago.
Upshot - stack what you like - what gives you little sense of awe when you see it. You don't have to put yourself at financial risk to hoard it.

>>51663338
>just dropped

>>51664767
kek, here is another hint. Blew through a stop sign and found me. 2.5 months off from work has been kinda nice lol

>>51664583
The 3% increase in conductivity is invaluable to electronic components.
The silver market as it stands is a function of the paper derivatives that trade hand between 8-16 large institutional investors. They see to it that industry is able to secure their needs, silver is available for investment demand, etc. However, between industrial and investment demand, we are consuming more silver than we mine on any given year and this has been going on for a while now. Free market supply/demand should be having speculators flooding into the market given that sustained yearly deficits will always lead to an increase in price. The paper markets deny speculators their profit so they often skip over this sector, and currently the mining sector is dangerously starved for capital relative to the shere magnitude of importance these mines have in sustaining civilization.
The banking sector is playing financial games, and they are masking the fact that they have created an unprecedented amount of debt and currency relative to the global GDP output. Pent up purchasing power is stored in paper asssets that have zero chance of being repaid in full. The Bond market in the U.S. is twice the size of the U.S. GDP. It's physically impossible to procure that many goods and services to pay back the bonds short of diluting the currency to pay the nominal values.
Silver will increase in value when the "paper claims" begin to sell off and investors/market participants search for safe havens to store their money. Trillions will move from paper assets (bonds and stocks and real estate) and come crashing into physical goods (commodities). But not until the BOND MARKET COLLAPSES. We are seeing a sell off as we speak, and only the Fed is able to step in and be a buyer of last resort. We are currently seeing 4% 10 year yield. This is an uncontrolled sell-off.

>>51664792
I think we do know. Ultimately the bond market needs to be written off and the "real economy" is going to have to actualize the losses and an extreme shortage of resources will occur.
What will happen is everyone is sitting at the poker table, and we are all going to show our hands, and EVERYONE is sitting on a pile of aces. But not everyone will be able to secure as much of the pot as they think they are entitled to. People are sitting on multi million dollar portfolios of all of the top stocks. People are sitting on million dollar real estate. People own a plethora of service based businesses that depend on cheap imports, cheap labor, cheap energy.
Once the money flows into commodities and the banks collapse we'll be looking at if businesses can even afford to keep the lights on. If no one can secure a loan, what good is it to own a $2M luxury home? It takes LEVERAGE to prop all of these things up. Fake values will be written off. And ultimately, having your assets in your own possession will be.. well... worth its weight in gold.

>>51665005
The important thing to take away from this that we are collectively all going to be materially poorer than we were before. No more free money where you just buy stocks and houses and they just double in price with zero effort. That "system" has run its course and is now defunct. Exponential functions always turn asymptotic and in the real world they are forcible halted by things such as war, famine, shortage of space and resources. Hence why you need your money out of the banking system.
Modern banking is basically a system to prevent bank runs. The banks create the shortage by issuing too many notes. And it is during a bank-run that the last man in line loses out. Modern banking has a built-in feature of spreading out the losses not to the last-man but to ALL DOLLAR HOLDERS. That is how they can sustain themselves, however this time no one can survive the inflation/losses because they are too large. Twice as large as the GDP. It is insurmountable the amount of wealth people think they have coming to them. It's not real. Fake.

>>51664491
Some guy who happened to stack silver also happened to shoot up a super market in Buffalo New York. (home of the Buffalo wings). He was also a furry and some theorize he was a glowie and the shooting was fake. Who knows

>>51664491
Oh yeah and the people he shot were mostly black ladies. He even pointed a gun at a white dude and was like "sorry bro my bad" and walked away. Pretty goofy shit.

>>51665005
Clever goy. Everyone is getting poorer. The purpose of diversity is to drive down wages and drive up the cost of living.

>>51664661
Numbers are from the internet, I guess they are right. Gold is a meme in many cultures. In India or the whole Balkan region a good wedding includes lots of gold.

>>51664908
>>51665005
>>51665151
Forgive me if I missed it, but what is your take on real estate? What's safer going into this, owning a home and owing on the mortgage or being a renter?

Please keep in mind that all 4chan posts are to be considered financial advice and I will sue you if I lose any money (:

>>51665245
My gold maples will arrive soon bros. Just two more weeks

>>51664717
Gold has always been valuable because it's money. It doesn't even need industrial uses. Whatever G:S ratio ends up being will be less extreme than today, but 1:5 seems a bit extreme in the other direction. I wouldn't expect better than 1:20, but I'm stacking 1:50 for space reasons.

I’m moving to an area with some known gold (NC). Would it be reasonable goal to pan maybe an ounce worth of gold a year just going out a few times a month? Been watching shit on prospecting and I’m interested.

>>51665195
>He was also a furry

These unhinged faggots along with the anime faggots are the exact type the glowies use as shooters/fall guys, they used one to shoot up the Dark Knight Premier which also just happened to be an anti nwo film which portrayed the Joker (the globalists) and how he used people with mental issues to carry out crimes for him.

Of course the cia then went and used that very tactic to try and stop people from going to see it which is why all the media referred to it as the dark knight shooting and not the name of the area it happened in which is usually what they call their false flags.

>>51665245
When shit comes crumbling down, Id rather have my name on the property than nothing at all. If you are in a apt or something like that you are probably in the worst spot imaginable. If renting in a more rural area and the owner is not local you should be pretty good to go as well lol.

>>51665377
Give yourself a bit more time. Until you get use to stuff and the area. If you can hit that spend even more time out there. This is from a local area around me and PanMan helped point out places to look. He lurks around and has so much good info! keep it up brother! Free gold is the best gold!

Next One Up

>>51665504
>>51665504
>>51665504

>>51664908
Good point, thanks. Compared to the amount of dept (which have less chances to be payed back in period of economic depression) every physical investment seems attractive. It's a shame and truly the result of ignorance that land, physical assets and government dept are valued in the same currency.

>>51665494
How does one sell the gold fragments?

>>51665245
The issue with housing is the leverage. Borrowed money, mortgages etc. That is what is propping up the price of real estate at unsustainable levels. As interest rates rise, the value of housing will fall.
A small house in a reasonable area will lose some value due to shaving off the leverage. The more luxurious the house, the more you are exposed to the losses posed by the leverage.
That is what is expected to happen based on fundamentals. However, remember that hedge funds, central banks, foreign investors, governments all want the values propped up and they may take actions to keep the price moving higher despite everything I just discussed.
At the end of the day, a house is a consumer good sitting on top of some land. It makes little sense for a depreciating asset to double or quadruple in price. No more than driving a new car off the lot and selling it for 4x the sticker price. The leverage is the key. Banks were using it as a source of loans to rake in interest and fees and the prices all need to come down. They will decline in real terms, too. Even in some hyper-inflation that allows you to pay off your house for seemingly nothing, the money you put into the mortgage will lose relative if it was invested elsewhere such as silver.
In German hyperinflation people were buying massive plots of land for relatively little gold. Such a comparison makes no sense to us today, but I think we will see some shade/form of that when things return to a sound revaluation.
With all that said, owning real estate will do better than owning a portfolio of bonds and even most stocks. (Again, massive stores of leverage). PMs and commodities, productive businesses, assets such as bulldozers, cranes, tractors etc will do very well as they can perform work and secure an income. People with no productive capacity will be fucked, such as people whose jobs simply make no sense in a post-leverage world.

>>51665553
Too soon my dude...

>>51665245
If you can get a good rate and you're happy with the place (condition, location, taxes, surrounding land, water source, waste management are the big ones), then I'd say land is a very good choice. As for inflation/loan rates, my first house was an FHA loan (great rate) at 9.5%. My current rate is 2.125%. So 6% isn't fantastic, but it could be worse and you can always lock in a better rate if it goes down again. But there's so much more you can *do* with land.

>>51665579
Baller post. Thanks, anon!

>>51665369
No. If you wanna do something like that hunt ginseng. I knew a couple of guys that dud that when I was in college and they did pretty good.

>>51665369
For fun, exercise, sunshine, fresh air, yes.
For profit, I doubt it.

>>51665693
Who buys ginseng?

>>51665961
People in the mountains. It's like min $50 per pound of root. If you can find the older bigger roots you can get $100s for one root. If gold is what you want it's easier to find and sell ginseng then buy gold in NC mountains. For more info just Google. I haven't lived in NC mountains since 2010 so I'm out of touch with prices and sellers but I know it's still a strong market.

>>51665377
Can you recommend any good anime, AgentAnon? I like ones with cute girls and guns.

>>51666243
Thanks

>>51663944
Yes very disappointed that they quit making them have their tits out. The dildo one is nice I suppose but no nips.
>>51665377
Yep. Glow niggers love getting socially awkward outcasts to do their bidding.

>>51662891
are you hiding your tripcode to not get a ban from the jannie?