/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>51648204
FUCK OFF YOU SCHIZO SHITHEAD I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING SLIDING EVERY GOD DAMN REAL THREAD HERE BECAUSE YOU GOT BANNED OOOOH POOR FUCKING BABY NOW SLIT YOUR WRISTS AND CHUG DRANO

>>51648204
holyt FUCK who is that girl????? please sauce please OP

>>51648204
Regulations. Check your local laws regarding the growing and sales of food

>>51648204
Just imagine her bending over and farting out a huge load, after riding a thick meaty black cock.

>>51648244
I basically live in the [wealthiest] city in one of the [poorest] southamerican countries, which gives me a certain advantageous position when it comes to legality (no one will give a fuck until I to industrial amounts of produce and by then I can afford it)

>>51648217
>>51648271
Meds

>>51648204
After an image search, I saw her unmasked pics, and that is unironically a man.

Especially considering it's Thai, that's a ladyboy for sure

>>51648204
that is a man

>>51648361
Gotta take what you can get in this economy

>>51648204
>>51648361
>Dem chink puss is tight as fuck bro.

It's not a bad business, but early on you WILL lose crops to other microorganisms attacking your poor little fungi. It's part of the learning curve. Keep in mind that no, when bad microorganisms get in the mushrooms aren't salvageable and neither is the mycelium. The rot that's visible to the eye is overshadowed by all the stuff you can't see.

>>51648204
What state are you located in?

>>51648305
I run a mushroom farm, ask whatever.

>>51648694
Tips on profitmaxxing?

>>51648665
A tropical country, not the States
>>51648694
Would buying already colonized bags and putting them in growth tents a good business strategy? I've fucked around with mycology before but I don't feel ready yet to build it all from scratch (petri dish-->grainspawn-->bulk substrate-->fruiting stage).
Also so far the only good substrate at hand would be coco coir and without supplementation I've read it's biological efficiency would be around 40% which sucks ass.

>>51648774
Hit up as many farmers markets as you can provide for, those are the cash cows and you charge much more there than anywhere else.

and of course buy the materials (substrate, bags, etc) in bulk, like get a pallet delivered to a freight terminal and pick it up yourself.

>>51648810
>Would buying already colonized bags and putting them in growth tents a good business strategy?
It's a good way to start and guage the viability of the business without investing too much, but it's going to totally eat up your margins. you can also just buy spawn so the process would instead be bulk substrate-->fruiting stage. buying spawn is often a very, very good business move.

>Also so far the only good substrate at hand would be coco coir and without supplementation I've read it's biological efficiency would be around 40% which sucks ass.
...most gourmets won't fruit on coco coir alone, they are wood eating species. you need hardwood sawdust pellets or some sort of straw

>>51648204
Code? Shaved? Braps?

>>51648810
also, coir is expensive

BWC

>>51648869
>but it's going to totally eat up your margins.
If profit is my main concern then it's all good. Im basically sourcing the colonized bags from a farmer who also found me a cheap ass transport to get it where I am.
>you can also just buy spawn so the process would instead be bulk substrate-->fruiting stage. buying spawn is often a very, very good business move.
As soon as I get some extra cash I'll do this. Thanks for the advice.
>most gourmets won't fruit on coco coir alone
Damn, really? I've seen some substrate mixes on the internet with coco coir and vermiculite. Have you ever tried it?
>>51648943
>also, coir is expensive
It's extremely cheap where I live, I think even more than straw. Remember, tropical country

>>51649018
>As soon as I get some extra cash I'll do this. Thanks for the advice.
it would mean you'd need to build a steamer drum or so to steam sterilize your substrate too, but with coco coir alone this wouldn't be necessary at all. if you start supplementing it though it likely would be. mixing spawn and coir is dead simple though, so depending on spawn prices you might want to look into that soon.

>Damn, really? I've seen some substrate mixes on the internet with coco coir and vermiculite. Have you ever tried it?
no, and i might've been wrong, I've just never seen anyone fruiting anything but king oysters on coir, and usually that's just used as a casing layer. reading further it seems like it'd totally work, and to increase yield / BE you could always supplement with some other cheap, nutritious inputs. i've just only ever used straw and supplemented hardwood pellets, which is the standard here in the states.

and it's really cheap and easy to build the steam drum too btw, just a 55gal drum, heating element and a float valve.

>>51648204
Selling them. Seriously, who the fuck are you going to sell them to? You think you can just show up at a fucking farmers market and say, "Hey, buy my mushrooms." And make enough money to live on? You think restaurants are going to beat a path to your door and say, "Please sell us your mushrooms, oh brilliant urban farmer you." What is your fucking plan?

>>51649098
>no, and i might've been wrong, I've just never seen anyone fruiting anything but king oysters on coir, and usually that's just used as a casing layer
hes confusing oysters with psilocybin mushrooms, the latter use coir/verm.
>supplemented hardwood pellets, which is the standard here in the states
you can cut your sub with cardboard, they love cardboard.

are you growing in bags or buckets?
how big is your grow room and how much are you making a month?

>>51648228
Mika the Mushroom Farmer for Khun Mi Mushroom Farm

>>51649164
>hes confusing oysters with psilocybin mushrooms, the latter use coir/verm.
yeah i know, but i searched it for oysters specifically and did find people having success with it.. i've just never heard about it until now, but in a tropical country with cheap coir it might work well, especially if supplemented.

>you can cut your sub with cardboard, they love cardboard.
i use standard masters mix, hardwood and basedhull pellets. it's automation friendly in pellet form and sourcing/processing cardboard all the time would be annoyign.

>are you growing in bags or buckets?
>how big is your grow room
i grow in bags, in a 5'x9' grow tent. it can fit up to 300 bags in at a time, so around 360lbs per week to ten days. i haven't maxed it out yet though but we just found a wholesale buyer who said he'll buy everything we can grow all winter long, so im working toward that rn. also have a space im considering renting that would be a 500sq ft fruiting room.

>how much are you making a month?
maybe
i make about $300/market, and have maybe another $50 in side sales per week (so about 300 profit/week). it's my first year, and next year I intend to hit up 5+ markets a week along with pursuing wholesale buyers to start making some decent money.

>>51649160
first you get the mushrooms. then you get the connections. then you get the money.

>maybe
that line wasn't supposed to be there, anyway it's been a lot of fun and we'll kill it next year. just stoked to be paying my bills legally by just goofing around growing shrooms.

>>51649286
>i make about $300/market, and have maybe another $50 in side sales per week (so about 300 profit/week). it's my first year, and next year I intend to hit up 5+ markets a week along with pursuing wholesale buyers to start making some decent money.
any luck selling dried oysters? what do you do with spoiled product? if I recall, oysters are only fresh for about a week after harvesting
are you selling in grocery stores? my local safeway sells oysters/king oysters. must be a local guy supplying them

>>51649286
Only $1200 a month?? No offense but what is your weekly time commitment in hours? Seems like a lot of squeeze for very little juice...

>>51649539
I only recently figured out (after extensive back and forth with the state) that I can sell dehydrated product without a commercial kitchen and separate licensing. i wish i had known that earlier, cuz in May-June I was throwing away like 30 gallon trash bins worth of product that didn't sell. since then, we moved to a bigger market though and dialed things down a tad, and now we essentially sell out every week or come close enough to it. if you store them well you can get 2 weeks of them still looking sellable ime. i find paper bags dry them out pretty bad.

we have in an with one store, just have to bug the produce lady more (she's lazy). we were in another store for a minute, but they haven't contacted me again in some time despite expressing big interest. im gonna give them a call next month and hopefully work something out. next month is the last market month for us, so im gonna be calling up a lot of stores. even Winco said they can't buy enough rght now, so they may take any excess blue oysters we grow.. hopefully.

>>51649295
Then the women?

>>51649647
usually around 8-10 hours, including time at the market. if we grow more, we don't have to spend much more time either (aside from time at the markets, which we can eventually hire out for).

yeah it's not much, but like i said it's our first year, our first real big market was in august. im pretty sure next year we'll kill it, there's a lot of undisputed turf around me and we're making good connections every week. like that one guy who said he'll buy everything we can grow all winter, which would be at least 5k a month.

>>51649723
Well thanks on your honest reply, good luck man. Hope you hit that 5k mark and beyond.
I'm thinking of growing magic mushrooms so all these non-shitcoin topics are super interesting.

>>51648204

Work them butterface girls till they are drenched in sweat.

>>51649799
Yeah it's been a lot of fun, I didn't expect to be able to pay my bills with it so quickly, and we're still so young and small, lots of room to grow. Just hoping to get a ton of grocery store / wholesale and restaurant buyers this winter.

I grow cubes too and definitely make way more with that lmao

>>51649653
Whats the licensing and permitting process been like? I assume the first step is to form an LLC. I know that food has to be packaged in a commercial kitchen (which you can rent by the hour). But what about the grow space? Any permits required there?
What variety of oysters are growing? If I had to pick three, I was thinking pink, pearl and kings would be a good place to start

>>51649833
too many ridiculous ear piercings

>>51649867
In my state, there's a farm direct that enables me to run without a license of any kind, I haven't even made an LLC or anything yet. But yeah, if I want to start packaging the stuff for grocery stores, it will require a commercial kitchen, but so far the two stores I've been at haven't asked for anything more than liability insurance.

>variety of oysters are growing
Kings, black pearl kings (king/blue hybrid), blue oysters, elm oysters, yellow and pinks, but the pinks don't do good in the winter and I'm not sure how the yellows will do. We also do lions mane, and will soon have chestnuts and reishi, maybe beech, maitake and enoki too. But for the winter, when we don't need 'booth appeal', I think we're gonna switch to mostly blue oysters, black pearls and kings so the wholesale volume works out better (big stores like Safeway etc don't tend to stock the more exotic stuff).

And one thing we're gonna next month too is set up an online store, for grow kits and lions mane / reishi supplements.

>>51649944
>too many ridiculous ear piercings

How do I know you are gay?

>>51649953
>set up an online store, for grow kits and lions mane / reishi supplements
not a bad idea. you can sell on ebay/amazon. you can sell pre-poured agar plates on ebay, maybe even some LC syringes. selling LC looks pretty profitable if we're talking $10 for a syringe.
in a year or two I hope to be in your position. I'm still building the capital required to buy or build some kind of facility

>>51648416
this is why you'll never find love. kek.
seethe and cope.

>>51649018
Learn to make your own inputs, unless you want to be a slave/consoomer instead of being a producer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIRvmA2Gkgs

>>51648204
>>51648361
>>51649833
would

>>51649098
>it would mean you'd need to build a steamer drum or so to steam sterilize your substrate too,
What about cold lime pasteurization?

>>51649160
>Selling them. Seriously, who the fuck are you going to sell them to?
I'm acquainted with chefs and cooks. Chinese restaurants seem to be the most obvious choice.

>>51648204
How much cashish for a girl like that?

>>51650240
>Learn to make your own inputs, unless you want to be a slave/consoomer instead of being a producer.
Expand on this

>>51648416
It really is. You should take a sex trip to Thailand once in your life, incel.

>>51650407
About 2 shrooms

>>51648204
>>51648361
literally BUILT for BBC

>>51650240
>4:53

my fucking sides! xD

what happened to her shirt?

>>51650394
worked fine for me when i did straw, but i think there's a reason it's not the go-to method for larger farms