/biz/ - Business & Finance

CEO is announcing return to office soon. Should I try to bang out some IT certs, like AWS or Azure, and move on? I am an IT manager that oversees helpdesk and sysadmin but have only held this most recent position for less than a year.

>>51646041
Start applying to other jobs now, and refuse to go in to the office. Don't ever quit, make them fire you. It'll be easy to stand up for your right to work from home when you have a few new offers in your back pocket. Get leverage.

>completely wfh to going to the office 3/month
Just FUCK my shit up senpai

>>51646167
Is it considered taboo to list wfh as the reason you want to switch, or can I be straight forward?

>>51646545
Not at all if you're applying to remote positions. Plenty of places offer WFH as a way to poach talent. Just think of it as a benefit like health insurance or RSUs.

>wants to LARP as a rebel
>the good goy has his profesionnal laptop on his thigs

what a fucking bitch you are
i go to the restaurant and to the bitch during my shift and don't make threads about it

>>51646568
Based. Ty boss.

OP here. I average about 2 hours of work per day. I've got two job interviews this week. Anyone here WFH at more than one job?

>>51646614
>Hourly
>Has to commute to work
DISGUSTING

>>51646663
>Anyone here WFH at more than one job?
You're out of your mind.

>>51646006
it's almost october and still 91 degrees here so i'm not working outside but in the spirit of the thread i'm 7 beers in with fuck all accomplished after 9:30am

>>51646782
cringe
>>51646876
based

>>51646663
>OP here
how fucking new are you breh? bumping for interest anyway. anyone doing any 3d design/printed stuff and wfh? i would love to go to the office with sweatpants on, pic related

I just jerked off during a meeting, FUCK.

I like working from home. Sadly my depression doesn't let me accomplish anything of worth, even with this blessing...

It’s funny how the middle management is like resolutely wanting to keep the wfh status quo even while the big bosses keep intimating they want us back in the school desks. I feel like they are going to wait for everyone to be scared by like 6% unemployment in a few months, then they will actually issue an order.

tfw move mouse every 5 minutes while playing vidya all day so im not yellow on teams

get fucked corpies

>>51646962
depends on the industry and size of the business. most large companies e.g. AMD are requiring 3+ days in office but only because they have to justify the giant fucking campus they're still paying off. our company sublet out about a third of our entire floor because no one was ever in it.

Any other WFH jobs I could apply to for Spics like me?

I am mexican the highest I've been paid is 10 an hour (I know it sucks ) but here in mexico 10 or 11 is kinda good if you are single.

I found this page for spics like me and apparently they are now hiring US citizens too. some rates are okay.

https://app.vpmsolutions.com/login

>>51646954
Have you ever tried doing it on their faces using the Tablet?

>>51646006
185k blockchain architect here. spent an hour in the morning deploying a smart contract, spent an hour this afternoon (30 min helping a coworker + 30 min meeting). feels good man. might try to find a 300k remote job. it'd prob be more work than this though.

>>51647009
phoneposting redditspacers pls go.
using spic 7 times isn't camouflage you fucking tourist

>>51646663
yeah, I have my FT job and two part time jobs, one for a dao one for a VC. it's chill and my resume is rapidly becoming amazing.

>>51646991
i just set my teams to Always-Offline and dare my team to say something. the head of product, a homosexual, confronted me about it. "yes, I don't like being monitored", I said, and he obsequiously dropped the subject.

>>51647014
No, Anon I actually have a gf, but for some reason I haven't been able to get as hard as I´d like to. She was cute when we started dating but the more she unfolded the mroe I realized she was a little od, recently told me she's slept with 10 people, I've slept with 4. Also told me her Best friend is hitting on her and she confessed they kissed before we started dating (she called me during or talking stage and said she was confused because she liked someone else aka me and blah blah blah ) Nigga sent her flowers to her mom's house , she lives like 150 m away right across the street came back criying and confessed her friend was too persistent even after telling him she's dating me.

Sorry about writing my lil diary here, but I wish there was more to life than working , and worrying too much about stupid worthless shit.


First time I jerk off in my job anon, not gonna lie amateur porn of older women gets me fucking going

Can I work fully remote with a cloud cert? Currently in fully remote helpdesk position, its comfy but I hate dealing with the karens and dumb.people.

>>51646782
Of course, you're leaving money on the table, why wouldn't you? I'm already NOT working one job, why wouldn't I just NOT work another one?

Okay to be more realistic, I do like maybe a few hours of actual work throughout the week at my main salary job. Mostly it's just various webex meetings (camera off, of course).

Then on the side I actually do something fun, some web3 dev work for a popular DAO. It's like an extra $5k/month

Anyone here got mechanical engineering wfh jobs?

>>51647097
dangerously based
started noticing some coworkers doing the same

>>51647097
>yeah, I have my FT job and two part time jobs, one for a dao one for a VC. it's chill and my resume is rapidly becoming amazing.
Do you recommend two wfh part time jobs over one full time one? Sounds kinda more chilled if you wanna do oe

>>51647128
>Sorry about writing my lil diary here, but I wish there was more to life than working , and worrying too much about stupid worthless shit.
Anon. There is, try going to church. No joke, shit is fucking off the CHAIN with stuff to make you happy. Fuck work and fuck jews (pray for their conversion).

>>51647097
Based.

'a homosexual' fucking god tier bants.

>>51647565
>camera off
Based

I’m WFH. Just got a promotion, now earning $70k + Bonus.

The amount of pretending I have to do is annoying.
WFH is nice but its not very satisfying.

I enjoy going to the office. Not every day, but a few days per week.
It's my main source of social interaction, and despite being otherwise very introverted I start getting pretty depressed when I go a few weeks/months without seeing or interacting with another person. I also actually like the commute, because I ride my motorbike to work and it feels like a little adventure every day. At the moment I go to work on M/W/F because I use the office gym, and those days work with my exercise schedule.

Recommend me work from home jobs?

IT Consultant here afraid that my next client will force me into their office every day

>>51649442
Programming.
Data entry.
Support.

>>51649222
I’m only in the office on Wednesdays. It’s a pleasant 45 minute drive without much traffic and I get travel expenses for it because I was told I would be working in a different office at first that’s closer to me but a much shittier drive with tonnes of speed cameras. I too like going in but one day a week is enough to fill my social quota.

>>51649828
Are any of those doable for a sperg who has trouble with stuff

>>51649969
data entry is literally grunt tier work if you can post here you can do data entry.

>>51650004
is that just copying one thing from one thing to a spreadsheet

>>51646991
>leave move mouse on 24/7 and teams running 24/7.
>manually set my status to "away" or "offline" intermittently or after hours
>wake up in the morning, use teams mobile to set status to green
>go back to sleep for a few more hours
>if any unread messages "sorry, I missed the notification"
comfy

>>51649074
So you're poor, got it

>>51646962
>execs are preparing for new quarter
>directors are running budget reports
>someone fucked up and went way way WAY over budget
>execs are pissed, and now everyone has to dig deep to cut expenses
>personel on pip are laid off, interns let go, other expenses cut
>someone puts together just how much they're paying for utilities, leases, and insurance to have vacant buildings.
and that's why we're being forced back in to the office full time. Fuck whoever was incapable of keeping a god damn budget in check, it's literally the fucking job of a director but somehow their budget blew way out of proportion. I can't even think of how they fucked it up so bad that it literally cost the WFH policy to implode in a matter of weeks.

How do I get a wfh job? Did you all just transition from working in an office to home via plandemic bullshit? I keep searching on indeed but can't find anything, where are these jobs?

>>51646006
I would take a serious pay cut to land a 100% remote job. I bet there are many others like me, and it amazes me that corporate cunts prefer to dump money on huge salaries instead of offering remote work as a perk.
t. hybrid cuck
>>51646041
My CEO announced increasing office days from 2 to at least 3 a week. I blame all those idiots who brag about doing nothing all day, and the middle management cunts who need to lean over people's backs to feel important.

>>51650683
> My CEO announced increasing office days from 2 to at least 3 a week

Right now it’s up to individual managers but I can see mandatory office working being brought back in my company. They’ve already shut and relocated the head office and now you need to book a desk when you are in so they can keep tracks on office use.

>>51650792
Sorry, to clarify I mean mandatory two days a week is most likely. Definitely can’t see a return to full-time office based in the future.

>>51650806
right, but that still means you have to live within a reasonable distance to work, or end up having to spend a lot of extra dough on commuting/hotels. a lot of faggots thought this was going to be forever and moved far away from where they used to work, physically

So how do all you niggers get these jobs? What did you study in university? I have an in person job making bout 65k but I’d rather do wfh but I also have unmedicated adhd and my attention span is fucked for learning new stuff

>>51647097
I have two full-time positions myself, not sure what to put on my future resume. I guess I could put both since one job is more technical and impressive sounding, while the other is one I just got a big promotion in. Could just lie and say I'm consolidating into one position if they ask if I plan to work two jobs with a future employer.

>>51650998
You could go the non-tech route and of something unskilled. Most remote jobs in general I think can be learned in about a week or so if you're mildly tech literate like most younger people tend to be.

>>51650851
Oh yeah, I know. There are three offices I could potentially be based at and they’re all within 45 minutes drive from me so I’m not worried if they do force us to go in two days a week.

>>51650998
I’m a quantity surveyor. I don’t think there’s an American equivalent. I manage the financial and contractual side of construction projects. I studied quantity surveying at uni then did a masters in construction project management.

cant wait until you pussies are all dragged kicking and screaming back to the wagecage

>>51646006
Middle toe larger than your big toe. NGMI.

>>51650998
I studied physics and just got a wfh job as an analyst at a consulting firm. All I did post college was teach myself a bit of SQL, python, and tableau.

>>51650013
Yeah its "typing" the job.

>>51650998
Studied graphic design and art, but I built up my web design skill set outside of school and took part time jobs on the side so I'd have a decent portfolio and job refs out of college.

My first full time cooperate gig was a digital specialist, but it was hybrid. So, I had to commute to the office 3 days a week. Then the pandemic hit and I got to work remotely for two years. Eventually this year they made workers that lived close to a main headquarters return to the hybrid work model, but I didn't bother following orders as no one was tracking it. I used my WFH time to find a true remote job and landed a 6 figure Senior UX Designer & consultant position this same year. There's a lot of UX Designer positions I saw in my job searching that had options to work remotely, but they're competitive and tough to get without the right type of job refs and portfolio. General consultant jobs are also mostly remote as well.

I just consumed 12 beers. Getting ready to be a productive member of society tomorrow developing software from home.

>>51650998
accounting - tax. got lucky and interviewed during "delta", late 2021. new interns are now in person, but they liked me and are keeping me around. I also just happened to get lucky with the team I happened to interview for, because they are spread around a few states anyway and some were even remote before covid.
long story short, it was easier to set up this arrangement 1 - 1.5 years ago, but it's still possible in white collar sweat-shop types of positions (that many people don't want to do).

>>51649828
that's it?
which is easiest?

>>51655897
Probably data entry since it's the most monotonous.

>>51651156
example(s)?
please help anon

>>51655086
what do you consult?
"general consultant". I want to eventually become a consultant, but there's so many routes and am lost.

>Have meeting with HR manager about getting me back into the office

>"Anon you have two choices, you can go on a return to work schedule for 1 day per week increasing every month, or we need your doctor to sign off on a lot of forms for us so we can make a decision.

>Forms please.

>A week passes and no forms from HR.

I don't think there are forms. I think they are wondering how they will overrule doctors advice as HR monkeys.

>>51656061
there probably are no forms and you called their bluff. They may never do it because they don't want said forms on the record because then they have to afford you even more 'medical rights.' Just watch them sweep it under the rug, lol

>>51647002
Lol AMD told me to go back in so I went back in for a day then said the cubicle they provided me was inadequate so I'm back to wfh for now. Wonder if they'll eventually force me back.

>>51646041
I don't know what you like to do, but you can also work on blockchain tech like QANplatform. If you don't want to work with them, you can even deploy your own projects with the QVM, but you'd have to know some feasible programming languages for this.

>>51655086
>6 figure Senior UX Designer & consultant position
very based. I'm in the same field but doing my masters at the moment.
Care to give any career advice? Any secrets or things to do/not do during interviews?
My ideal would be to become a freelance consultant after having enough xp to do it on my own and basically be paid for my taste kek
Judging from your post, it does sound feasible right?

>>51652435
>>51655086
So swe type work is probably the best bang for the buck. Which is what I figured, usually they are the most lucrative careers with fewest training requirements.

>>51646006
bump

>>51655945
I'm more UX/UI designer than consultant, but it's all part of the same package. The consulting part comes mostly from me giving design advice for my company's workflow software. But yeah, consulting is a very wide field that covers a lot of industries, so you have to figure out what job field you feel you can give solid advice to. You'll be mostly interacting with individuals or companies looking to improve a certain sector of their core business. Digital design is one of them, but you got to whittle it down to something you're at least partly passionate about in a way that you could explain it outside of work without any issues.

>>51646663
I'm triple dipping right now. Massive income increase for minimal additional effort.

>>51657869
A lot of these companies want you to know how to use wireframing/prototyping tools like Figma, Sketch, Invision, and/or Adobe XD (Though XD might be on the way out now that Adobe just bought Figma), so just having those applications on your resume helps a ton. Knowing how to create wireframes and working prototypes is a big part of the job. I didn't have a lot of experience on any of them, so it made finding a UX/UI job harder. I suspect if you're doing your masters that's all part of the learning process now. Having examples, especially mobile and web app wireframe/prototype designs on your portfolio site will also help. Like I mentioned before, the UI/UX Design positions are tough to get and there’s a lot of competition, even more so if they’re remote since you’re competing against the entire country or other countries most likely, especially the senior positions which pay the most. It might take a while and a few companies you’re not too keen on working at, but just rack up the exp and portfolio fodder until you got enough that you can go into these interviews with confidents, so that you sound like you know what you’re talking about. Just don’t get discouraged if you don’t get the job you want at first. Even when you’re done with final round interviews, just keep on applying for other positions while you wait to hear the results. In the end of the day, it’s all a numbers game when applying for work, and so apply for as many positions that are listed wfh and sound like something you can actually do as you can until someone bites.

>>51657869
Also, a lot of these companies expect you to have good communication and presentation skills to explain through your design process to stakeholders/clients. Those soft skills are what these companies pay you the big bucks for. Usually in the final rounds of UX/UI designer job interviews, they’re going to want you either to explain the entire design process of a past project you did or they will give you a design assignment and expect you to give a case study in front of the hiring manger and a few others you will be working with. It's still something even I have a tough time with, but I'm hoping to get better with enough experience.

If you do these kinds of jobs enough, I think getting out and just becoming a freelance consultant on your own is entirely possible, because you’ll have the design process down to a science by then. I’m looking to move out on my own once I acquire enough assets to enable my financial freedom. It probably won’t be in UI/UX design since I got some other skills, I’m more passionate about developing, but, if need be, I’ll be able to do it.

>>51651401
>Tfw assistant to a quantity surveyor, also wfh

latest routine

>wake up, smoke joint while coffee brews
>sign on, watch market open
>check email/daily meeting
>welp almost lunch time might as well jerk off and shower
>eat lunch
>do a lil work that the pace of corporate bureaucracy dictates (typically 1h)
>could use some fresh air ill go for a walk
>check email, nothing
>welp might as well start prepping dinner

i will remember this time period fondly when it all comes crashing down

>>51661610
Hey anon, do you like it? I’m just a fresh graduate only in the job for three weeks but it’s good so far.

baffles me people are still insistent on coming back into the office, such a waste of time and energy

>>51646991
god willing how the FUCK do I get a mfh job? what do you do?
i'm not particularly skilled, have some customer service experience, ok at art, getting a marketing degree

>>51647128
I want a young qt bf :3 ditch ur gf she sounds like a hysterical cunt

>>51650004
feels like there aren't available data entry jobs to be honest

>>51649222
checked and same
Ive been doing wfh for 10 years it really sucks aftera while. you have to go out of your way to emulate the social interaction you get from an office. like I used to work out of a coworking space for a while, went to sports clubs and all that shit. its tiresome, I like my coworkers and would much prefer to just go into the office a couple of days a week. will hopefully go back to an in house position next year because Im sick of it. i actually tried to go inhouse 2020 but corona fucked that up and it sucked big time.

This is not work from home but it is work related.
I'm a fresh civil engineering graduate. I graduated from university a couple of months ago with a HIgh Distinction (GPA >3.60/4.00). I was not able to do an internship during uni because of covid when everything was shut down. As a result, no company is willing to hire me because I lack the necessary experience. "Alright then", I said, "I'll just apply to internships". They're only taking students, and not fresh graduates. To those who are taking in anyone, the pay is horrible, and some don't even pay.
I need experience to start my career, but I don't know what to do. The Air Force in my country has a two-year contract where I essentially work as a civil engineer, learning very important civil engineering skills. I would also become an officer. I was thinking of doing this for two years (and earning a good amount of cash at the same time, benefits, etc.).
I'd like some opinions on this matter. Thanks, anons.

>>51662984
>>51649222
Are you sure you belong on the chins? My happiness literally increases every single day I don't have to interact with someone.

>>51663188
Based 21st century schizoid man

Any WFH /Sales/ Chads here? What do y'all sell? Actual work week?

>be me
>sell saas into hospitality industry
>work 3-4 hours a day max
>20-30 calls a day
>hold a couple demos
>send contracts out as needed
>never went to school
>talk to people however i want and set the status quo of all interactions
>play politics internally to be irreplaceable
>point of contact for all accounts i bring in so i cant be fired without ruining relationship between my company and their clients
>spend all my free time playing classic wow and studying aws cloud for a cloud practitioner cert
>only revenue generating department so we are last to be laid off
looking for a new job for more money kek

>>51662910
Try a staffing agency. They might be a little schiesty on work-from-home th9ugh

>>51646954
I lol'd hard at this
Sorry anon

>>51661320
>>51661350
Thank you. Yes, I'm realizing those jobs are highly sought after but luckily I seem to be progressing with my portfolio and recently got a student working job at a quite prestigious institute, so I guess I'm getting it done!
Did you guys ever have a mentor who was a senior designer who taught you shit that no one talked about? I really wish I had someone like that to mentor me but it seems most jobs are you lecturing other people on the do's and don'ts, especially people who don't work in your department.

>>51663188
Checked, based, and hh pilled. NORMIES GET OFF MY BOARD!

>Fully remote SysAdmin job
>Only work a few hours a day
>Feel very isolated, but I'm not sure I could return to office hell again, although I'm pretty sure I feel more depressed now than when I worked onsite
>Major imposter syndrome. Worked here over a year and a half, still don't really understand all the systems, don't know shit about AWS
>in my review my boss said I'm doing fine with the projects I've been doing

Not sure what to think. I've gotta go to some office social event and conference in a month and meet coworkers for the first time, major anxiety. May just fake covid but that'll make me feel like a bitch

May just quit, though I know I'll regret it.

>>51665394
Fucking kek

>>51663169
>>>51601755
You’re just a young man trying to make a living

>>51665394
If you feel underqualified at least use the time you are given and do some courses, learn some stuff so that when it ends you will be able to actually work next time.

>>51651401
>I’m a quantity surveyor. I don’t think there’s an American equivalent. I manage the financial and contractual side of construction projects.
Sounds like what a project manager or administrator does here
t. Civil engineer fag who deals with construction

>>51668424
It’s similar but the project manager is distinct from the QS in the UK and tends to get more of the blame when things go wrong.

I've got to ring 10 people today, I think. I'm lying on my bed, I haven't rung any yet. If i can ring 5 in the next hour then have lunch then ring another 5 I will call it a day.

Just ate a THC-O edible. Was pretty productive today so Im taking off early.

>>51665394
>feeling bad because you think you're fucking over your company
Honestly this sounds like slave mentality. You should be happy that you're getting paid to sit at home, do a few hours of work, all at a job you don't fully 100% understand. If your boss says you're doing fine then there's nothing to worry about.

>>51669316
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with taking pride in one’s work as long as you don’t let it get to your head. The anon you quoted does sound a bit paranoid though.

>>51668953
Ah I see
Yeah here roles tend to get combined. Pay one salary instead of two and just give em a little more time in the schedule to do their tasks so that's probably why we don't have anything like that

>>51665394
I am an IT manager and I love mentoring the folks below me. At the end of the day, if you have even a modicum of trust in your manager (which you should, because he's supposed to be a leader), I'd express how you feel and get some real critical feed back. He may say there's no room for improvement, that you're doing great, or, ideally, he'll help provide feedback that helps you grow with confidence. If he doesn't do this, it's not entirely game over. I'd just say you may need to look for a new job where you can get more feedback and mentoring.

>>51656993
I'm a sysadmin turned IT manager. My scripting is okay, but definitely not programmer level. I've considered looking into blockchain tech, I heard the salaries and growth are amazing. Thanks for the recommendation.

>>51646006

I know you're in here Erik. Was cool seeing you in the office for a change with the rest of us cagie wagies.

>>51647128
Well, you go talk to her friend and start making out furiously (with your gf of course) in front of him

>>51665394
Kek I'm working tech support and been WFH since March 2020. Management tried to get people back but a huge covid wave hit and they dropped it.
My coworkers always talk about shit I have no clue about. I just nod and pretend I understand. I can do all the tasks assigned to me though.

WFH is comfy AF. My boss doesn't give a fuck what I do during the day as long as I do my assigned tasks.

>>51646006
Wfh is comfy but the work itself is massively unfulfilling. Maybe I need some hobbies other than vidya and jacking off. Has anyone gotten into 3d printing?

>>51646954
Did you jack it to female coworker? If so, based

>>51647598
Haven't heard much of that myself
>t.quality engineer stuck at the factory though they do let me wfh on Wednesdays

I've barely had any real life interaction with other people since I began WFH two and half years ago. How do I prevent myself from going insane?

>>51664823
Not a sales Chad but you sound based

>>51671831
Idk if you work out but if not consider the gym, perhaps during the day on lunch if close by?

>>51671831
want to be my friend? I am totally sane but just a little needy haha but sorry if that bugs you it's just cause I've WFH for 10 years now with home gym and don't go anywhere or talk to anyone besides my family and I get so nervous at normal things like talking to someone I don't know irl that I shake visibly but I'm not going to take anxiety meds I just have to practice breathing anyway haha what do you say to my offer?

>>51664823
>play classic WoW
Based. Hope you enjoy Ulduar.

>>51646006
>in sprint review/q3 ending meeting
>scrum master wants to do some "team building" activity
>its to increase our interaction in meetings!
>"tell us fave food, the last tv show you matched, and a class you wish you had taken in college"
>it comes to the contract worker from Belarus
>"whys is yours blank?"
>'I dont do this kind of thing. Lets get to meeting please'
>"you don't want to tell us more about yourself?"
>'No.'
>silence feels like minutes
>"well your are supposed to do it to help build team cohesion which is important, i expect them to be done in the future"
>dude fluffs it off

Gotta admit it was pretty based but keeping up appearances is not that hard if its wfh. I turn my camera on once a week and do the normie bs.
Also got an interview with a range of 130k-150k remote onwards and upwards, always interview if you can bros.

I have several WFH options from the federal government.
The VA wants to pay me $70k a year to answer phones to explain benefits to vets and is fully remote. The other option that pays 65k-90k is verifying immigration status of employees (I-9 form) for USCIS and is also remote. Another position is processing FOIA cases for the NSF but they want me to come in 1 day a week, but pays $75-110k.

All of these are a fuckton better than working in retail manager hell. But which to choose?

>>51647025
be careful anon. I switch from 150k comfy to 200k where i had to really work. not worth it

finished my anime at 3pm. Director ping me on teams "urgent question. can i call you" immediately answer "yes"....and save the day for PROD load. Sometime i m lucky....but now overloard S4 is over and i don t know what to watch...