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That's a barn.

>>51619898
Wtf housing Shrinkflation

>>51619898
What happens when your trees are gone? Your resources become more expensive. In addition, bullshit semite business like "codes" and such drive up costs to far beyond chopping some fucking trees down and building a big structure.

>>51619898
ya but they had no ikea furniture or craftsman style interior design bro...

>>51619898
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

>>51619950
>sent from my device produced by industrial revolution.
Shut up idiot, humans always had shit times like these. It's just a cycle

>>51619950
this

>>51619907
and?
only rich people can afford a barn today

>>51619971
not this

Bump and added to watch list so I can read in the morning
Goodnight!

>>51619971

>humans always had shit times like these. it's just a cycle

I hope you are being deliberately daft. The industrial revolution is unprecedented.

>>51619898
Well it would likely be a property that had been passed on for generations. Not only that, but their would be multiple generations living under the same roof. This way a house would he built on and improved over decades.

Small towns and villages would have been quite comfy really, at least in a certain time period. Everyone would know each other, work would be traditional or easily gained locally, close family ties.

The problem of housing near cities is an age old one. Rome for example had huge slums on its perimeter.

>>51619971

>>51619971
> humans always had shit times like these. It's just a cycle
Correct, the last time was Atlantis

Peasants also only worked half the year.

Modern society was a mistake.

>>51619898
lmao knaves. Dude Germany was about to become the world's economic powerhouse in 1870.

>>51619898
that image was probably created by AI

Yeah but did they have wifi, plumbing system and air conditioning? I don't think so

>>51619898
>>51620059
>>51619971
>>51620197
Humanity has done this several times. The people whose lineages survive are all the same groups of people over time. These are the keepers of knowledge and human progress. During the stage of human development and growth, knowledge and technologies are passed down over generations by these groups and more advanced technology is leaked little by little via their own descendants. As civilization improves, it draws near the “cutting edge” where the knowledge being passed down now is irrelevant. This can not go on for long because the selected group of people no longer have secretive technology to leverage over the population, thus they have no way to control or guide the outcome of humanity. It is at this point that they usually kill off a massive amount of people under the guise of cataclysms and climate catastrophes, squirrel away the ancient knowledge, plus what has been learned, then do it all again after a several generations again.

>heating with farm animals
imagine the smell

>>51620333
> Be me
> Not being able to heat at all
I would swap with farm animals in a heart beat anon

>>51620041
That chart has got to be the biggest sell signal on Humanity I've ever seen. Devs are about to rug and most don't even realise it.

>>51619898
It's irrelevant to me. Peasants in my country used to live in houses such as pic related, couldn't own land and were pretty much slaves.

>>51619898
Impressive. Very nice. Let's see the toilets, running water, electricity, and air conditioning.

>>51620379
aaa the imperial russia dream. Good times with paying tax for pillow

>>51620433
If it would be legal and I had OP's house and property, I would easily generate my own electricity

>>51620379
They only worked during harvests and fucked around doing their own thing for the rest of the year. Some even made a nice living if they were good at something, well, if you believe Tolstoy.

>>51619950
Why? It just means people can now choose not to live the life of a subsistence farmer. There's nothing stopping you from living like a peasant now, go out and buy the cheapest plot of land you can in the middle of nowhere, build your own house and farm crops.

>>51620641
what do i do when government demands land tax?
Or says I can't build certain structures on "my" own land?

>>51620641
I couldn't do this legally in Germany. It starts with not being allowed to use your own cleaning water facility and ends with home schooling being illegal. There are 100 other terrible reasons why the circumstanced to do that are terrible, like high property costs, regulations and so on. Nice try tho.

>>51620694
>what do i do when government demands land tax?
You pay it? You think peasants lived untaxed?
>Or says I can't build certain structures on "my" own land?
You live in the middle of nowhere on a large property, no one is stopping you building anything.

>>51619898
That’s because people in the past built their own homes and even had the help of the community (much like the Amish) when a new couple or a newcomer needed a house built. Now you get fucked in the ass by (((codes))) and zoning laws, making you dependent on contractors and the system to have your house built. Materials have to be a certain way, you can’t build this, you can’t build that, etc. If people were allowed to build their own houses like in the past, I doubt homes would be that expensive. All you will need is just a couple of wood, hammers and nails and you’ll have a house of your own.

>>51620728
You can still build your own house, it's just a bit more complicated now. German friend of mine did it maybe 15 years ago or so. It's a nice house too, not some shack that barely holds together. Plenty of space to buy in the rural areas too, still today.

>>51620718
>You pay it? You think peasants lived untaxed?
Peasants could sell their produce, or just give a share of their produce to the local lord.

To raise money to pay a tax in my jurisdicion, you'd have to start a food selling business (not subsistence farming),
to do this you have to register your food business with the local council which involves:

1.Provide the Environmental Health Unit with a copy of your Planning Permit or Property Information Request.
This confirms that the proposed land use complies with the planning scheme and legislation.

2.Provide the Environmental Health Unit with a copy of the Building Permit with the endorsed plans.
Where a building permit is not required, provide written documentation from a building surveyor stating that a building permit is not required

3.Provide the Environmental Health Unit with a Food Premises Enquiry/Change of Registration Form
On this form you will be able to select to apply for pre-registration which includes a floor plan assessment and progress inspections prior to registering. This ensures that your premises complies with relevant standards and minimises the risk of having to undertake costly remedial works.

4.Fit out your premises
Undertake any works to your premises to ensure it complies with the Food Act 1984 and The Food Standards Code.

5.Obtain a Certificate of Final Inspection or Occupancy Permit (if required) from a building surveyor.
These documents must be submitted in full prior to a final inspection being undertaken by the Environmental Health Unit.

6. Application to Register
You will be given permission to trade after:
A final inspection has been conducted
You have lodged of an Application to Register form
You have made payment of the applicable fee

>>51620718
>You live in the middle of nowhere on a large property, no one is stopping you building anything.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Harry_Collinson

>>51620744
bureaucracy is the real cancer

>>51620744
Sounds like lots of excuses and cope. Just become a social media influencer documenting your peasant life style and ghetto houses. Those videos get millions of hits on youtube.

>>51619931
you know oyu can grow trees?

>>51620059
>Small towns and villages would have been quite comfy really, at least in a certain time period.

They weren't. They were extremely poor and there were regular food shortages. There was no healthcare. Life expectancy was very short and most children died within a year or two.

You're imagining some video game version of the middle ages.

>>51620870
>They were extremely poor and there were regular food shortages. There was no healthcare.
Do you read the news anon? Also, the life expectancy is going down the last years.

>>51620904
>Do you read the news anon? Also, the life expectancy is going down the last years.

oh yes, don't worry, i'm fully aware that's where we are headed.

except we have about 7 billion people on the planet more than we can feed and we've used nearly all the available resources. fun fun fun.

>>51619898
Maybe 10% of that house is actual living space, rest is storage and animals, and in that 10% a family of like 10 and 3-4 generations lived there


t. kraut

>>51620318
This is my understanding as well. I hope they fail this time.

Just take the third world coconut hit pill

Eh I'd still prefer hyper modernity autism than sleeping in the cold and starving

>>51620303
>Yeah but did they have wifi, plumbing system and air conditioning? I don't think so

they didnt and thats why even poor people today live better than kings and queens of 500 years ago.

>>51620041
I AM ABOUT TO FOMO INTO HUMANITY

>>51619907
And it’s still nicer than anything we could live in on salary alone.

>>51619971
>He doesn't know about the golden age of the english peasant

NGMI

>>51619898
We should extend credit to low income niggers so they can buy houses like this to make up for Jim Crow and Trump :)

>>51621095
sounds comfy t b h

>>51621334
>sounds comfy t b h

it wasnt. you'd be screaming to come back to 2022 after a few hours back in 1800.

>>51620433
>Let's see the toilets
just shit in the woods ffs
>running water
nigga you got a creek right in front of the house
>electricity
devil's work of the industrial devolution
>and air conditioning
they live in a literal forest, you gots the freshest air available

damn, you industrial niggaz got brainwashed

>>51620041
>SCIENTISTS SAY THE PLANET CAN SUPPORT 60 BILLION PEOPLE
>AS LONG AS WE LIVE IN PODS AND EAT BUG-DERIVED PROTEINS

>>51620379
today
>still can't own land (property taxes)
>still can't stop working (slavery with extra steps)

>>51620827
>just give up your family's privacy bro
stfu tranny

>>51619931
a reply so retarded it must be some fledgling ai. no way this is a real human.

>>51619898
its not a house, its a barn with living quarters for the workers. animals in the basement and dried grass on top to feed them. just a kitchen and sleep room for people. you see such things beside the real houses in the central alps regions, mainly bavaria tirol and graubünden.

>>51619898
No iPhone, no tv, no electric heating. Literally nothing to do except twiddle your thumbs and chop fire wood. Literal slave nigger existence

>>51620318
Meds, please. Now

>>51619931
>buzzfeed mcdonalds education
americans should be banned from commenting on anything political.

>>51621220
>poor people today live better than kings and queens of 500 years ago

>>51619898
Multigenerational moldy deathtrap =/= to fresh build at modern standards, asshole

>>51622602
>iPhone
conduit for jewish brainwashing
>tv
conduit for jewish brainwashing
>electric heating
wood stove

>>51621358
there are no material things I would miss except maybe our food standards. It may even be a blessing to experience life without technological 'entertainment' that only subverts and tries to distract from the real world around us

>>51619971
Get back the wage cage, cattle

>>51620641
>There's nothing stopping you from living like a peasant now
Nothing other than prohibitively high cost of material goods, regulations that restrict what and how you can build on your own land, and complete lack of community support.

>>51622602
Sounds like a pretty healthy existence desu

>>51620827
>you are free to live like a medieval peasant you just have to be a social media influence
do you read the comment chains you reply to?

>>51619898
those that are unwilling to kill will always be slaves

>>51619898
>leaks
>smells bad
>bugs
>mold
living the lavish l;ife of a peasant over 150 years ago. your blood line must be so proud of you for dwelling in a pile of rotting wood. warriors claim their stone castles and woman

>>51619898
That's a stöckli
More like a family house with barn attached
Your clan would live there, so basically your extended family
Still an incredibly based way to live though, rather than everyone paying redundant costs for their own smaller, gayer space to the rent or mortgage Jew
You can share tools, have many hands to fix and beautify the house, it lasts for generations, it's great

My grandpa lived in one

>>51621266
Yep. Not to mention they could freely grow whatever in their garden and have smaller huts constructed to store vegetables, hooch, or animals.

Try convincing your landlord in a closet studio apartment that you need a few Square feet in a shared hallway to grow tomatoes. What we gained in convenient delivery and diverse food options, we lose in afforable homestead growing and homecooked meals.

>>51619898
You need a pretty big house when you have a massive family like everyone that lived on a farm back then. More kids = more hands for farm labor. Why not build a massive house when you have a steady supply of timber and plenty of land to build on?

>>51624882
where i live its called "stadel" and its a pain in the ass to get rid of it sometimes. they are often under "denkmalschutz" so what people are doing is renovating them up to todays standards while keeping the picture from the outside. ive seen amazing stuff done but it costs millions to get there. some even rent them out to city dwellers as overpriced airbnbs so they can get the feels. its laughable but works perfectly.

>>51622602
>w-whatever would I do without my iphone and TV?

>>51623458
>that only subverts and tries to distract from the real world around us
well, have fun with barely literate psycho 1800s christians who believe in spontaneous generation

>>51620744
do you understand how soft peasants would think you are for being dissuaded by the process of getting some seals pressed on paper

>>51620318
yo man I don't have a replicator in my kitchen so I think we're good

>>51625460
A peasant would be appalled by the beurocratic shit we are stonewalled by

>>51619898
Mechanical engineers are usually midwits to the extreme. They will talk to other engineers as if they are experts and trying to teach you something, instead of collaborating on a common problem at hand. They will become obtuse and stubborn if you explain to them how they are wrong. This applies 10x if they recently got their masters degree in mechanical engineering. These cretins deserve a life of toil

>>51623846
globalism and wilson were a mistake

>>51620078
>e47.jpg

>>51619898
>no plumbing
>no washing machine
>no hvac
>cows shitting
>lawn for a roof
imagine the smell

>>51619898
if you were willing to work as much as that peasant today you'd have a barn better than that. but why would you? people are more enlightened and more intelligent and rather live in a modest house with lots of free time then have lotsa useless space and stuff they dont use but no free time. except if ur american, then ur SOL i guess

>>51625968
they didnt need a washing machine cuz clothes weren't designed for washing machines with spin cycle. hand washing is pretty efficient even today just lots of our clothes need a spin cycle or get moldy. but theirs didnt

>>51620641
>>51620718
>>51620827
People cannot largely "choose" to be a farmer or even hunter gatherer anymore you retard
Except the based Amish
Even if it weren't for the fact that the industrial system has made most people in the west dependant multiple simultaneous forms of addiction,
still you can't have 8 billion people farming like the based Amish, living in healthy communities and eating good food
It is becoming increasingly a privileged position ironically

People today thus are basically born to consume, they have been created by the system literally as part of an effort to increase gdp
Their entire lives will be lived to work in a city or suburb, lead a small, isolated existence compared to their ancestors, eat taco bell and slowly perish to fund the medical industrial complex, or if you will, to "eat hot chip and die"

In a very real way we have released an AI set to optimize one lone metric, and it's getting smarter and more effective at controlling humans

>>51620318
How, and where do you people learn this stuff. I want too

>>51622602
No plumbing. You'd be surprised how your daily life changes without a easy supply of water. Plus, I like my hot bathes.

>>51619898
Whats its zestimate bros?

>>51619971
MUH DEVICE, OYYYYYY!!!!!!!!

>>51619898
yea but they didn't have basedbean lattes and plastic stuff made by chinamen

>>51620641
>There's nothing stopping you from living like a peasant now, go out and buy the cheapest plot of land you can in the middle of nowhere, build your own house and farm crops.
And good until your boomer neighbor calls the zoning kikes on you
https://thegeorgiagazette.com/featured/polk-county-tells-family-they-cant-live-on-their-own-land-in-rv/

>>51620303
>>51621220
I have multiple houses built entirely of natural stone with clay plastering older than 150 years. You people are delusional.

These houses can retain and give off heat better than any modern house. We don't need air conditioning, the stone walls are 1m (3.3 feet) wide and the tamped mountain soil dissipates heat under the thin cement base.

>inb4 in a poorfag these houses are completely modernized and maintained

>>51622602

There's these things called books. They've been around for a while.
Read enough and perhaps you write your own. And others get inspired by that. So on and so forth.

>>51627244
LARPing idiot

>>51627244
Looks like this under the plaster layers.

>>51623199
This is an American website retard

>>51619950
Ted glows

>>51627302
Here Ameriniggermutt. I don't want to dox myself, but here a yet unfinished storage house in my yard up in the mountains with my doggo. I'm buying up and renovating these one at a time.

No niggers, no gypsies, no Jews, no any other non-sense. Cheap, fertile land. Good real food, nice view. Nice climate, good infrastructure. Budapest is 70 miles away.

Cope, seethe then die out.

>>51627586
>Eurofaggot
This is why this board needs flags. I believe you then. I thought you were an American, in which case there was no fucking way zoning laws anywhere here would allow that

>>51622519
the solar system can support any amount of people of the right kind. unfortunately there seems to be an inverse correlation between being inclined to reproduce and belonging to that kind

>>51620041
isn't that entirely due to synthetic fertilizers? the world pop would have always done that if people had enough food

>>51627620
We have laws that we can't modify or build houses without some Jewish inspector and paperwork. But I just rebuild, (re-LEGO the same way as it were) these with some cement. Then grey clay plastering.

Sometimes I go over to the old freestone mine to bring stones if a few are missing. It's for free bc few people know/care.
>Living my life rent-free in this gay global society's mind. Feel's good man!

>>51620829
It takes decades to century for the wood to be as good/numerous.

>>51627827
That's why we need to pogrom ghetto POC people. (Hollywood is a ghetto)

>>51619931
>What happens when your trees are gone?
Let me know here in europe where the "trees are gone", you fuckin retard....
This is the average /Biz/ poster these days. Damn .. So stupid.

Looks comfy

>>51627123
You're clearly not enlightened enough to have parted (on the astral plane) with your calculating gizmo jabberthing.

>>51622531
So much this

>>51619931
resources more scarce = price go up
resources more abundant = price go down
I think the solution then is to kill billions of people.

>>51619907
with all those (human) windows?
and their clothes hanging in front of the door?

>>51627262
this nigga reading books

>>51620318
Wrong. Earth is a test. The best make it to next level. We are in Kali Yuga phase which is the best test of the strong, Hitler being one great man who defied the Kali Yuga and much of the Germans at the time ascended to the next stage and are no longer concerned with earthly matters. At end of Kali Yuga when humanity is at it’s lowest point he higher humans reset everything and start the cycle again. Jews btw are part of the test

>>51620461
>paying tax for pillow

>>51619898
You can still have a gigantic house that's probably way better than that if you just take your first world income and move to the rural part of a shithole country. We got states in brazil where you can get 10000 square meters of land for less than 80 USD. Construction's not nearly as expensive either. Africa's probably like that, too. Go live your farmer's dream bro, you'll have way better weapons to defend yourself than anyone who wants to attack you will have access to.

>>51619898
Imagine the smell

>>51620318
Kind of based if true, probably not.