/biz/ - Business & Finance

Listen up: if you want to survive the next ten years, you need to put your entire life savings into short positions right fucking now. In the next 1-4 months, the Fed will be forced to pivot from tightening to easing because of an impending US debt default. You will have a brief window of opportunity, mere hours, to convert the winnings from your shorts into physical precious metals before they're all sold out. You then need to relocate your ass ASAP to a high trust, majority white part of the country to ride out the ensuing shitstorm while the rest of the nation falls apart.

Good luck.

>oi do you 'ave a loicense for that economy?

>>51606353
>>51606463
>>51606525
>Old British woman gives Nigerian access to bank account
>Ends up broke
A story as old as time

>>51606534
>the pound is about to become an ounce
I'm stealing that.

>>51606500
You just spread your bets out. For every couple that are duds you'll get one super winner. I was able to make back a quarter of my losses this past earnings seasons doing that and it showed me that diversifying your portfolio really is a good idea. If you lose too many times in a row then you stop and reassess your strategy before losing more.

Lol, lmao
>supply chain issues on lab grown meat
Fucking how?

The eco terrorists are getting wise to “their” games

>>51606578
>Chief supply chain officer
Fucking a, everyone wants to be a chief. Why do these companies insist on giving these people over important titles and allow them to do so little.

>>51606500
>no one makes 7% a week or they'd be a millionaire by the end of the first year and a billionaire by the second.

You can theoretically make 7% gain on a trade per week but without compounding because the trades are limited by volume. Larger trades cannot be executed quickly and an order large enough would itself affect the price and would probably have to be split.

>>51606607
If youcan time an etf every week. You can absolutely do 7% per week for 48 weeks.

>>51606578
>Beyond Meat added adcock leaving for another opportunity

>>51606614
(1.07)^48 is 25 so it's not that insane but it's easier to fill an order 100 shares than 2500 shares. Also, the more liquid ETFs like SPY behave more randomly.

Is the new jewish holiday on Monday bullish or bearish?

>>51606654
Getting 3000% in a year is possible but its normally done with options.
Even though volume is technically an issue that's never the first problem anyone runs into. I don't think I've ever heard of a trader making 48 consecutive correct full sized trades

>>51606662
Sell Rosh Hashannah buy Yom Kippur seems to be a pretty consistent strategy.

>>51606664
>Even though volume is technically an issue that's never the first problem anyone runs into.
I'm not denying this but I'm just saying even a "lucky" (or inside or manipulating) trader cannot scale their winnings to infinity.

>>51606614
So why aren't you a billionaire?

>>51606664
>>51606654
so post your track record hotshots

>>51606713
See
>>51606703
I make a trade per month on average. I did backtests on my strategies and the returns got worse with more frequent trading.

I have really bad toothache but the doctor gave me codeine

You are all niggers and have no good information to share. Just a bunch of midwits flailing in the dark. So for that reason, I'm out.

>>51606771
See you on Monday I guess

>>51606771
have a fun weekend anon

>>51606677
>>51606489
If Trump gets in as President again. How long until we're back to ATH again?

Any other companies that specialize in blood? CO did me well and I like saying "blood money" to refer to my gains.

$KTEL

Yields...

Shemitah schizos were right

Apologize.

SOXL to $15 next week
Do what you will with this info

>>51606810
You forgot a decimal point.

>>51606662
1901-1902 Year of Shemitah - Stock market drops almost 50%.
1916-1917 Year of Shemitah (*Super Shemitah Year) - Stock market drops 40%. United States enters WWI. Germany, Russia, Austria, Turkey and Great Britain suffer economic collapse.
1930-1931 Year of Shemitah - The Great Depression. The worst financial crisis in modern history.
1937-1938 Year of Shemitah - Half of the stock market collapses sparking a global recession.
1944-1945 Year of Shemitah - End of German Reich and Britain's hold on territories. Establishment of America as the world's superpower. Bretton Woods Conference giving the U.S. Dollar Global Reserve Currency status; and diminishing of gold’s influence.
1965-1966 Year of Shemitah (*Super Shemitah Year) - Stock market drops almost 25%
1972-1973 Year of Shemitah - Stock market crashes almost 50%. Global recession; US oil crisis.
1979-1980 Year of Shemitah - Global recession.
1986-1987 Year of Shemitah - “Black Tuesday”; stock market crashes by 1/3.
1993-1994 Year of Shemitah - Bond market crash.
2000-2001 Year of Shemitah - 9/11. Markets open on final day of Shemitah, September 17; stock market falls 700 points.
2007-2008 Year of Shemitah - On the last day of The Shemitah Tear, September 29, the stock market drops a record 777 points.

You think this is a joke goy?

>>51606664
>>51606677
>>51606703
>>51606705
>>51606713
>>51606733
>>51606743
>>51606771
>>51606778
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>>51606784
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>>51606804
>>51606798
>>51606810
>>51606846
>>51606851
Wrong.

>>51606771
basically, to which I reply with soijacks and tranny posting. I post my tickers and what I buy, but no 1 responds. If someone does, they are snide and tell me that company is trash. Just ignore them, because no one has any clue. Oh ya, I have been dropping stupid drawings I make while at work. Seeya Monday

>>51606804
Still waiting for that catastrophic crash you retards have been promising me.

don't tell me you shorted the bottom again

>>51606969
No I buy’d this time hoping for a bounce

wtf am i supposed to do till monday

Buying all the way down.

I hate bears in ways few will ever understand.

>>51607007
Why not short all the way down then buy the bottom

>>51607018
Because markets are basically impossible to time. Feel free to prove me wrong by posting an outlandish CAGR

>>51606987
Read Twitter doom posts about how fucked we all are

>>51607007

You should hate the Government and these banks that are acting insane. Bears are just realists. Look at these clowns in charge and tell me how bullish you really are

>>51607026
But you're convinced it's going down further. You don't need to time the bottom to the dime? Take jpows speech. You know which way it was going. You don't need to stay short for six months

>>51607007
>>51606981
I bought TQQQ at 22.25 and at 20.50. I got more powder incase it wants to dip more. The plan is to sell at 25 and go all in SQQQ

>>51607026
>markets are basically impossible to time
Precisely? True. But you can swing trade them successfully just fine. Indexes are much easier to trade than forex, for example.

Why is the forest quiet.

>>51607053
I was told the forest was loud?

Glad I didn't go all in. What a mistake listening to you guys has been in more cases than not when it has come to stocks.
>we're going back up, this is the peak of inflation
>green skies ahead, rates only down from here
>pffft yield curve inversion means nothing
>stocks only go up

>>51607053
my sexdoll is giving me a handjob

>>51607026
markets follow secular trends over long time periods that are well understood, every recession has been triggered by interest rate hikes

>>51607060
Soxl might bounce next week. Take the loss if it does and cash out.

>>51606981
1000 shares of SOXL at $10.03
How fucked am I? Will I beheem myself?

>>51607060
I bought at $13.00 after looking at the chart and thinking "well, it's been collapsing for a while now. Surely, this is the bottom." Sold at $12.00 for a loss. I guess it's good that I cut my losses when I did, but it still sucks.

>>51607088
You are a mad man, but maybe that’s what we need

Reminder that UONE exists. A media company led by the brightest minds in USA with sophisticated target audience that will always have enough money to buy UONE products due to their social status.

>>51606512
USA can and should default. Fuck the rest of the world

>>51607122
How can you default when you can just print more dollars to pay the debt, it’s literally impossible

>>51607053
Tigers ate everybody man
You weren't there
You don't get it, man

"The worst is yet to come"

What did Carl Icahn mean by this...?

https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1573424606937063424

>>51607088
Micro reports earnings next week and is expected to do badly

>>51607140
Or you can just default to send even stronger message. It's not like the rest of the world is in position to do anything about it when they are busy fighting each other and struggle to heat their homes.

>>51607163
>30% this year
King of the bobros says its jogre
Glad I held my puts

>>51607170
The world already knows you are niggers, we don’t need you to stop paying your debts to figure that one out

>>51607163
> PM holder is ejaculating over sooner fantasies
Same shit everyday for thousands of years. Getting tired of that

>>51607174
>sold my VIX long this morning
>got $50
>couldve had $250 by eod
Oh well at least it was green

>>51606600
>shut it down

>>51607163
do silver guys still think that silver will go to $300? Or did they adjust their expectations for reality already?

>>51607243
god i hope silver goes to $0
>t. silver guy

>>51607243
silver attracts retards that are too poor to stack gold, they're like B-grade schizos compared to the actual gold schizos

>>51607080
>>51607107
Idk anymore all I've had happening to me this year and much of last year was failure with stocks. Only bought 100 shares to teach myself a lesson regarding the long term holding nonsense mentioned here. I ended up buying near the peak as I somehow do this often. I have no clue how I time the tops for stock purchases so well and the bottoms when I decide to buy puts. It hurts, Im down so much overall since last year. My dream of freedom from the wagecage, shattered.

>>51607337
If you're this stressed then maybe you should not put that much money into stocks. I'm down $1.5k yesterday but I don't care because I'll refuel with more than that using my next salary. Stocks are now cheap too, it's not like there is much more downside contrary to what greedy bears are spewing.

>>51607265
>B-grade schizos
XRP "HODLERS"
>>51607080
>SOXL
Hot damn, even ARKK was less of a dumpster fire

>>51607386
I havent touched stocks much for a month or two now. Had I kept touching them and lapping up calls and shares like mumu's say I'd be down 5 figures in under 3 months.

I hope you realize yesterday's power hour was shorts covering, not bullish investors.

>>51607386
I think we'll drop another 2-3% till the next gdp then cpi to see how much Powell will rape us. I don't see a significant upside for at least 6 months? The current level is literally priced in. Until rates go down, what could be bullish enough to break this trend?

>>51607386
Also not stressed, just depressed at my inevitable defeat of escaping the wage cage. Stress went away when I stopped watching the market every day quite some time ago. I only have one last card up my sleeve and the odds don't look good at it achieving escape velocity from the wage cage.

>>51607429
Personally I avoid options. People usually buy those predicting quick gains. At the same time, they somehow block out in their mind a possibility that the opposite might happen. Single wipeout due to bad options trade can easily reverse few years of progress.
Slow and steady is how you win I think.

>>51607442
> Also not stressed, just depressed at my inevitable defeat of escaping the wage cage
I can relate with that. I hoped that I'll retire at 40, now I think it will take few more years. The good news is that people have bad memory and in a decade we might get another retarded speculative bubble. And by that time we will be wiser.
Take care mate, hoping for the best for you.

>>51607439
>what could be bullish enough to break this trend?
People seeing their favorite stocks at steep discounts. Christ, people bought amd at 120 not too long ago. 60 dollars is a steal to them. Even though AMD will probably bottom at 24. Tons of stocks are discounted atm. Soon as we get to 2008 levels is when I go all in. Lots of dead cat bounces until then

>>51607439
>I don't see a significant upside for at least 6 months
And what places are you looking at? Because if you're looking at all and depend on /smg/ bear spam only then you are completely blind.
Interest rate hikes are not a direct threat to corporations. Economy slowdown could be, but USA corporations are global which is a big advantage they have over small domestic business in USA.
Lots of those corporations are already at very low valuations as >>51607478 pointed out. Even if markets go lower in shortterm, I won't have problems buying more stocks with my salary next month as I won't lose on this move longterm

>>51606489
>>51606489

>>51607053
JP Morgan and Barclays rigged the forest by spamming it with fake orders. Tigers don't understand any of that shit because they're wild animals.

>>51607060
lol you didn't follow the strategy and and sell in the 40s, you have only yourself to blame

I'd like to pose a financial question. Full disclosure: I am gay and I suck dicks. Do the technicals for WTI oil support a bounce anytime soon? $79 is massively oversold desu and there are still serious supply constraints. An opinion please.

>>51607731
>Full disclosure: I am gay and I suck dicks
This reminded me of Pajeethorse Silver and its been months since I checked that ticker
>Trading at 2.6 cents
OH LORDY. Might need to go into /pmg/ and bully some baggies.

>>51607731
zoom out stupid faggot

>>51606489
Is China Japan 2.0 or are the burgers actually going to be overtaken and become irrelevant?

>>51606677
when is yom kippur

>>51607757
Chinamen are low IQ and can't develop technology. Their society also values backstabbing and cheating to get ahead. Geopolitical analysts will hate you for this knowledge.

>>51607731
OPEC will announce further production cuts in next week or two, and the futures price will drop even lower. The manipulation ends when the SPR approaches zero.

>>51607243
>do silver guys still think that silver will go to $300? Or did they adjust their expectations for reality already?
Not any time soon, but within a decade it's guaranteed to hit triple digits.

>>51606578
Vax mandates creates staffing issues across the board wherever they are actually enforced.

soon INTC will be mine

>>51606928

>>51607243
it's going to $81k actually

>>51606600
Based!
Abolish the World Bank!
Down with the IMF!
No more enslaving sovereign nations with debt from loans that get pissed away by corrupt leaders!

Buy SPXL now

>>51607060
If you had actually listened you wouldn't be buying SOXL until the SOX index is above its 200 day moving average and it's far from it at present. Every SOXL holder has only themselves to blame. SOX went under the 200 day moving average in April when SOXL was still over $40. That's when you should have sold. If you bought back in and are now holding bags you should be ashamed because you have forgotten your training

>>51608049
I just bought SOXL today. When SOXL hits $11.50 next week and I get an easy 11.5% gain in a few days, will you admit to being beclowned?

Should I stay in UUP or jump into NRGU?

I've just realized that germany is playing 4D chess with the rest of the world. Its the old game of conquering Europe again, they couldn't take it by force back in 1934 and now they're trying it again via inflation, a crisis limbo and shortages so hear me out.

>strategic positions
Germany has undermined the EU parliament with Von Der Leyen as president. German influence in the EU is sky high.

>Stage 1: Covid
By creating a virus, they've effectively shut down the global economy. Countries are borrowing money beyond their eyeballs to not collapse. And Isnt it weird how germans, out of everyone else, have created the most sought-after vaccine? really makes you think. The plan was to weaken other countries.

>Stage 2: War
Germans must've planned everything since the beginning of the ukraine-conflict back in 2014. So due to covid there are now multiple countries with a fucked economy and because of shortages and supply line issues a fucked industry. And what is it that autocrat politicians do when they know a civil war can break their control? exactly, war! The Plan was to turn the EUs biggest Energy supplier (Russia) against them and create an energy crisis.

>Stage 3: Energy crisis
Because Russia wont deliver gas to the EU anymore, there is a wave of insolvency cases coming up. So what did the german govt do? they bought germanys biggest insolvent energy supplier Uniper. This is where it gets spicey. Uniper has multiple gas-, coal-, and nuclear power plants in multiple European countries theat NOW belong to the german government, including a coal power plant that powers moscow. And german politicians are already talking about deactivating everything to push green energy. Germans now have multiple EU countries grabbed by their balls because they now control their energy supply, which will turn these countries into vassal states. They can now shut down another countrys industry with the flip of a switch.


TL;DR
Long DAX and green energy, short every other EU country

Fuck zhey know
Shut it down

>>51608076
The bigger risk you take in stock market, the bigger the gains or losses (most of the time losses). The SOXL strategy gives relatively safe and simple to follow framework.

>>51608161
You give this shithole of a country way too much credit. Also don't long DAX, it will continue to shit the bed.

>>51608200
DAX has so much potential upside once we become the united states of europe

The world economy is about to get fucked
also me on the left

>>51608076
You will probably make money anon and the other anon will be justifiably beclowned. HOwever, if you must go long 3x leveraged ETFs right now have you considered CURE or UTSL instead? Or even leaps call options on XLP? THose three, health care, utilities, and consumer staples stand to fare the best in a bear market and should we recover from here they will do well in a bull market too. Seems a lot safer than the alternatives, just look at the charts so far this year compared to all the other leveraged stuff

>>51608221
Bullish for USA

>>51607478
>>51607513
While I agree that they're low, this is only pre covid lows. Most of the value generated in the last two years on the indexes were a direct result of fed printing. A lot of the issues still haven't been solved, with the fed done tapering all these shitcos getting wrecked by inflation and higher interest rates can't afford to grow at their old rates. Look at what happened to Facebook? Companies are blowing up left and right, we had negative gdp growth the last two quarters.

What does pussy feel like?

>>51608236
Warm bags of wet sand

>>51608233
Facebook produces no real value and depends on revenue from advertisers. So obviously it's not the best choice. There are plenty of corporations that produce useful stuff with insanely low valuations. And I don't mean share price, I mean their financial situation and forecasts.

>>51608236
Like the inside of a fish mouth

>>51608233
Also,
>global companies
Are getting rekt. China is shitting the bed, all of Europe is minutes away from defaulting, starving to death, or freezing to death. The entire world is down 20+%, banks leveraged to the hilt are going to start popping and dropping everything even further. Look at credit suisse just yesterday

>>51608255
Such as?

>>51608274
Yeah domestic business in those countries will default / collapse, but consumers will still be there. Which leaves void to be filled by US megacorps. USA is in great position right now.

>>51607243
Silver trannies are the most insufferable people on the board next to shitcoin pajeet shills. Everyone thinks they ate boomers but they are mostly tranny adjacent zoomers. Silver was never and will never be an asset worth trading

>>51608278
Go and look yourself. My portfolio is the result of the knowledge that my ancestors suffered for during WW II, and I'm not giving it away for free

>>51608270
I can confirm this.
Warm it up in the microwave before tho.
The smell is even pretty acurate if its not to old

My calls have expired, my account is empty.

Finally, I feel some semblance of ease....

>>51608255
Sure. But most of the indexes are full of shitcos. Even the people that make stuff or provide things are getting hammered- fedex is down, Steelcase lowered their guidance, shit like stryker are flatlining, it's all cumulative.

>>51608274
>The entire world is down 20+%
Good morning sir,,, i beg to differ benchod Indian market still up, super power 2030

>>51608288
Sure, eventually. But that's why I think we're going to go down further before that longer term takeover shit starts happening with companies that didn't die here.

>>51608296
>Silver was never and will never be an asset worth trading
Based. Thats why you should give all your silver to me. Ill gladly take that burden off you for free.

>>51608314
Good luck timing that

>>51608312
Give it 2 more weeks how do I short that chart goddamn

>>51608323
please do not redeem my bastard

>>51608320
>timing six months of downturn
I think I'll manage
I guess we'll see though

>>51608323
In all seriousness it trades on the SGX Singapore futures exchange. Any futures broker in the US has access to it if you want to trade it. I imagine India's unwillingness to play ball with the West regarding Russian sanctions on energy is the main reason their market is doing so well. The fact the poo market has outperformed every single world index in 2022 is quite stunning otherwise

Is shorting poos is really a good idea?

I would only think so if we expect the developed markets to plummet further.

But one small rally in the US would decimate a short on the Poo markets

>>51608340
Markets are forward looking, that's why people are usually surprised by price movement. They look at current events while investors look much further into the future. That's why I think it's futile to try and time the market.

Ok thats it, I am shorting the poos first thing sunday afternoon.

When exactly does this poo future open?>>51608312

>>51608455
Looks like 9pm Sunday night eastern time

>>51608455
>When exactly does this poo future open?
kek dont get burned little guy

>>51608481
>9pm Sunday night eastern time
fugg, thats 3 am for my yuropoor time. Fugg I am sleeping by then

>>51608492
Don't worry I will just make a quick 10x and get out

>there are people who thought 137% debt to GDP was sustainable, nay, a good idea

a childhood friend is visiting my town so we are going to eat mexican soonish. should be a good place good reviews and authentic tacos.

4 tacos is 19 eurobux. is that expensive for americucks?

>>51607163
The rest of the world is doing worse than America. How can it be the end of an Empire? Are you really going to do business with Yuan? Lol

>>51608768
See >>51607885

>>51607439
We're dropping at least 10 to 20 percent from here before the actual bottom is in. I think the bottom for spy will be 320

>>51608760
I can go to the local Waffle House here in Florida and get a steak and eggs dinner with hash browns and Texas toast for under $10. Not Mexican or tacos but every time I see Hispanics at a Waffle House that's what they order so close enough

any good books for and up-and-coming speculator? None of that "investing" bullshit

So what is /smg/ thinking

Green or red week? Many people on the news and tv seem to say things will get a lot worse, is this actually bullish?

>>51608634
What is the 10Y yield % that causes the interest debt death crash?

>>51608859
a pump up
then a pump down

>>51606851
>You think this is a joke goy?
Do you think this is a joke? Goy.
Fixed that for you, white boy.

>>51607731
Oil will bounce in November.
If dems find enough bags of votes to pull off some miracle win at midterms, the bounce will be massive. Otherwise, just a small bounce as EU winter sets in.

>>51606489
*breathes in*

SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURP

>>51608859
Low expectations are usually mildly bullish. I predict crab though.

>>51608900
>most tech companies still 25+ p/e
ha, maybe fair compared to when they were 40+ p/e

>>51608847
Anything by Mark Minervini

Good morning. Saturday morning.

I work very high up at one of the top banks in the UK. You don't have to believe me. Just be prepared. It has been chaos these past 24 hours.

>>51608986
Day theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tu-qDHSSZo

>>51608975
kino

>>51608859
we get a relief rally here i think, combination of long downmove with no relief, volume wall and structural support off both the June lows and the 200 wma.
Obviously not the longterm bottom though, not even for the year, there WILL be a financial crisis event soon.

>>51608859
>line go down so maybe... now line go up?
mumu I got news for ya.
there's this thing called "the fundamentals"
you might want to check em

>SOXL avg $20

GBP is in the dumpster. Are there any quality UK businesses I can pick up for cheap with my dollars?

>>51608975
thanks

>>51609151
Got banned for making a goyslop general on /ck/. Bearish or bullish?

What will happen on shemitah bros

>>51609125
all of em

>>51608859
the bottom wont be till we hit around 320 or 200

>>51609125
tobacco companies?
my eye is on BATS(BTI). big divi, international, best debt to assets ratio out of the big tobacco companies (which I think is better to be low when interest rates rise, although maybe with high inflation you want high debt?)
also since big hedge funds want to have a good ESG score they usually stay away from tobacco which kinda makes them cheap I think
idk look into it yourself, I might be retarded

>>51609125
Diageo

>>51609488
>

you I take the least serious. By all accounts we could have a leg up next year and that is the top

>>51609233
Why do mod and jannies seeth so hard at goyslop threads?


Also look a the 2Y at 4.20%

>>51609716
May bad, past performance does not indicate future action which is why everything is up 4% right now. Anyone with experience doing options is really just a coin toss in a dark room as it's just anyone's guess. Very rarely do you hear option traders doing well after all.

>>51609680
Do people care what brand of alcohol they get drunk on?

>>51609858
Yeah. I only drink bud light, high life if they don't have BL's for some retarded reason, and if they don't have that I get whatever light beer they have unless it's some overpriced microbrew bullshit.

>>51609858
yes
For example, I find Captain Morgan great and Bacardi rum disgusting. But when you are buying an alcohol distributor, (like BUD) you should be aware that they are functionally no different than Coke or Pepsi in that there is a distribution network comes with it. Hippie local brews also need to get their booze distributed.

>>51608552
whats the story on this pic

>>51609919
you can't save her bro...

>>51609919
some bitch being an attention whore

Any index futures traders itt or does everyone stop at options?

Anyone watching Bloomberg from time to time? Never before have I heard "yields" being spoken this many times a minute.

>>51609872
>>51609899
Interesting. Do people at bars/clubs order vodka or do they say for example Smirnoff? I don't know these things because I don't go out.

>>51607886
>current admin
It would've been a fun LARP if not for that oopsie

>>51609995
I don't go to bars either, but if you don't specify I would assume you run the risk of the bartender giving you the expensive top shelf shit for no reason

Isn’t a hurricane bullish for oil?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHA KEK BAGGIES!

IT JUST KEEPS GETTING WORSE FOR MUMU!

https://www.newsweek.com/xi-jinping-house-arrest-china-military-coup-rumors-1746014?piano_t=1

>>51610042
Retard, they give you a "wells" drink, which is the absolute cheapest, and charge you 500% upcharge.

>>51609995
You either ask for well (cheapest shit) or something specific

>>51610084
the point remains you should probably know exactly what you want

>>51610076
Man, I thought they were going to invade Taiwan. Oh well.

>>51610076
> china collapse is bearish for USA somehow
This must be a bottom when bobos are reaching that far

>>51607026
>impossible to time
For short term trends yes, but you can accurately time long term trends following these 2 simple easy rules. 1. If the Fed is cutting and QEing, buy. 2. If the Fed is hiking and QTing, Sell. Easy simple.

>>51610076
>article says it's a rumor started by jeet MSM and jeet politicians
No wonder it's mentioned so much on /biz/

>>51610196
stupid post. We had QE for past 14 years. There was no "QE" by name before that.

>>51608160
UUP risks a surprise Plaza Accord, NRGU risks guaranteed government fuckery.

>>51610120
If it's the military doing a coup it's more likely they will invade Taiwan. If it's liberal rich people, less likely. All depends on who is leading the sword.

>>51610210
>by name
Stupid post, their were equivalent actions foe the times. Rate hikes and cut have always been a thing.

How do you invest a bear market? I've only been here since 2019.

>>51610241
Go short on shit companies ans long on good companies

>>51609872
Are you the anon who was drinking Bud Light in last night's /smg/?
Jesus man, get help.

>>51610307
Not him but last night was the first night out of a 3 week liquor-loop for me. Anons, what should be my first gold piece? I'm tired of tarnished flips, and I'd like to spend my cash on something other than Miller Lite.

>>51610205
cancelled all flights and trains into and out of the capital, is that fake and gay mumu? for you maybe

>>51610076
I don't buy it but how does a CCP coup affect the mumus

https://twitter.com/ATLASIANMOR/status/1573689296544010241?cxt=HHwWgsC4tfqE79YrAAAA

roads empty and military vehicles moving into the capital kek baggies, mumu, you're all fucked. better lock in those no limit sales for 930 am monday

Anon are you okay? Are you okay ANON??

>>51610307
I don't get drunk. I'll have like 5, but last night I was doing open mics so I had a lot.

>>51610407
what up with china is it cuz there not paying there mortgages?

>>51610407
>>51610076
you're a faggot. nothing is happening. retarded /pol/ tourists please leave.
>omg! there were military vehicles on a road in china!! the end is here!!

>>51606489
>I bought 10 spy at 386.41

>>51610404
this, we should not need to give a shit what happens with chinks and chink markets

>>51610241
I'm in the same boat but the boomer advice is to buy solid divvy stocks at low prices.

>have an extra $5k somehow
What should I do wit hit?
1. Dump it into TQQQ?
2. Dump it into SPY/VOO?
3. Dump it into a savings account?
4. Waste it on stupid shit I don't need?

>>51610438
heh, never been on /pol/ in my life kid. get most of my news from aggregators, al jazeera english, and foreign affairs mag/policy podcasts. your calls are still fucked tho.

the troops are moving in.

>load my broker site
>$8 in total assets
>wat.jpg
>refresh it
>everything is back to normal

>>51610468
Honestly 4 sounds like the most fun option now that everyone's demoralized again

>>51608859
>hit june lows
>fake rally
>bulls get hooked
>dow drops another 1000 points

normies and boomers haven't even considered panic selling either. we have a long way down.

>>51607731
Smelly Arabs won't allow a collapse in prices. Also biden stops releasing spr after election and there will probably be some levels of refilling, once again, post election. China opening up means oil is very oversold at the moment, in fact this drop may even worsen the shortage in a few months meaning buy now at least before election

>>51610480
Yeah, I'm leaning towards it kind of... except there isn't anything I can think of that I don't need that I want. I already have like $100s of dollars in gift cards to various stores because I'm such a boring person and generally don't spend money

>>51610474
lol, broker UI's. You would think they would have the money to hire someone who isn't indian to design their websites and apps

>>51610472
I don't have any positions on.
You're retarded. Nothing is happening. This is the equivalent of you reading a rumor that some no name faggot (or literally a no name Indian politician) posted to twitter
There is no coup. You're a faggot. You're driving up sensationalism, for a story that doesn't even exist.
Post ONE single reputable news source corroborating
>oh but anon, they aren't reporting it!! it's happening in secret!!
You're a fucking faggot. We live in a world where there is video and leaks. An undescript video showing military like vehicles at some time, no time verification, are driving on a road, is NOT proof of a military coup lmao.
God. You're so fucking dumb. Either intentionally trying to drum up panic over dumb shit that you know isn't true, or you are actually retarded, and actually think a military coup is going on right now, without ANYONE in the entire world knowing about it
I will wait for you to post ONE corroborating source, not just some twitter faggots talking about it
Go.

Is buying options just gambling?

>>51610542
Dude, wake up
It's ALL gambling

>>51610516
Uh anon, you seem upset. A little too upset to not be about to lose everything.

https://twitter.com/jenniferatntd/status/1573322602784980993

>>51610240
You were not even born back then. Stop pretending that such strategy has any merit.

>>51610598
Here you are, unable to follow simple instructions.
Link me a source outside of twitter, you fucking faggot.
>you seem upset
Yeah, because day in day out /smg/ gets fucking retarded faggots like you coming in and shitting up the thread with the most asinine retarded shit
>DURRR THERE'S A MILITARY COUP GOING ON!!!
>LOOK AT THIS VIDEO ON TWITTER!!!
>THERE ARE VEHICLES DRIVING ON A ROAD!!!
>EVERYONE, PANIC!!!!
You're a fucking faggot.
Still waiting for a REPUTABLE source
If you post a reputable source, I will 100% back you, tell you you're right, and will apologize to you
I will wait.
Until then, you're a fucking faggot, who deserves to be mocked and derided.

>>51610598
Turns out it was fake and gay

>>51606677
Shmitah is over. Time to buy for the bull run of the year

>>51610620
>>51610624

https://twitter.com/casulers/status/1573589498780438531/photo/1

uh oh

SIR JAY
BETRAY

>>51610652
>another twitter post
You're fucking cancer. Alright, it seems I've made my point - you are unable to post a reputable corroborating source. You've also demonstrated to the thread that you are very, very retarded. Good day sir.

>>51610618
>you weren't born back then
Irrelevant, what the Fed is doing is the most important factor when considering long term trends going all the way back to their inception, doesn't matter what their current tools are if you understand how they work. Don't fight the fed is one of the most reliable rules for investing.

>>51610624
that was posted previously, she has since continued to question it. here's the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cPXsqEdOvA

>>51610652
You say uh oh like a toddler who pushed over the gumball machine and breaks it spilling candy everywhere.
>twitter as news
I bet you also have a the opinion you were born in the wrong body

>6 month treasuries at 3.9%
>2 year treasuries at 4.2%

>>51610652
Man there is literally a picture of a whole bunch of airplanes in Beijing airspace in the replies

>>51610652
According to Twitter WW3 has begun 52 times in the last 10 year. Please fuck off with those melodramatic retards.

>>51610673
I think you're in big trouble fren. But I'm glad letting out all that reddit "source, source" rage has eased your mind a bit. I'm sorry for your loss.

It's so funny watching these "pro" investors and hedge funds crying like a little bitch because there is no FED PIVOT and the fed must pivot because they need to save their ASSETS. Otherwise they will lose more clients.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpRHiPlS4pI&t=1712s

>>51610710
we gotta pump those number up, those are rookie numbers

>>51610710
That a pretty decent guaranteed return for 6 months, why would you buy risky stocks over that?

>>51610710
>>51610732
>6 month i bond yield is 7-9% risk free

>>51610724
>letting out all that reddit "source, source" rage
LMAO. You are posting TWITTER screenshots, links to twitter
This is the most reddit shit I have ever seen in /smg/
God. You're such a fucking faggot.
>OMG! EVERYONE PANIC! TWITTER SAYS TO PANIC!
>HERE, HERE IS A LINK TO TWITTER!!
>WHAT? YOU GUYS THINK I'M A FAGGOT FOR POSTING TWITTER?!?
>YOU'RE ALL REDDIT, THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE!!!

>could have made out like a bandit with lithium exploration
>didnt trust the plan
>back to work for another week

>>51610732
I dunno anything about bonds but doesn't JPow raising rates even more mean that you can get an even better yield later?

>>51610752
You're so mad tho. :)

>>51610542
You can buy calls to have exposure to more delta and buy puts as a downside hedge. You can get very elaborate

>>51610760
It's only six months, buy another in 6 months lol, what kind of retards are buying stocks right now

>>51610767
Yes, being mad at someone being a complete and utter faggot, trying to drive up a panic, is a normal, and healthy response
You're a faggot. You are trying to make people panic. You are spreading lies. You are posting TWITTER to /smg/. You're a faggot.
This is the equivalent of me walking through the city, and you are sitting there on a megaphone, walking up into peoples faces annoying them and yelling
>THE END IS HERE, REPENT
>YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR MONEY
and I walk up and punch you in the face, and tell you to stop being a faggot and stop being fucking annoying
You don't get a pass for people being angry at your actions if you act like a total fucking faggot

I'm quickly realizing that actually putting effort into videos and editing them properly takes time kek. I got out of bed early for you bros to continue editing. I unfortunately have to work today so I'm hoping worst case scenario the new video is out tonight.

>>51610800
What are you using?
Sometimes I want to clip funny videos and music together. Im on Win7 and refuse to pay or upgrade

>>51610797
Uh huh, go on, tell me more about how dying MSM always has an edge on newmedia, my out of work ex-buzzfeed journo friend.

>>51610822
I use movavi. I got it on sale on steam for like $7 kek. It's a nice little video editor. For the price it was a fucking steal. Doesn't have as many effects as the big boys do but I've been fairly impressed with it so far.

>>51610826
>MSM always has an edge on newmedia
when it comes to the markets, yes. MSM matters. MSM moves markets.
You couldn't post a single news source outside of twitter. You really need to reevaluate your life choices. If you get your news from twitter, there is something seriously wrong with you.
>bloomberg
>reuters
>WSJ
>economic times
>BBC news
And as I said before, if you post a reputable source corroborating, I will back you, apologize to you, tell you that you are right.
The thing is you can't, because it's not happening, and anyone who actually thinks that it is happening is an absolute mouthbreathing mongoloid retard
I'm not asking you "omg post a link to a CNN article!"
we all know CNN and the like are absolute dog shit - nobody is denying that
but you can't even do ONE link

I’m PhD student from Russia, Saint-Petersburg. I am and also a dermatologist in practice with experience in R, Python and bioinformatics. I’m at risk of being mobilised into Russian army. I’m in a search for a funded PhD position in epi/stats/bioinf + derm

Please help

Please help

LEAN HOG BROS

Kek. another relaxing day. Made pigs and blankets for lunch. Getting ready to do a bit of yard work this afternoon while the weather is nice. Note: If your not taking advantage of the highest rate on CD or savings accounts in fucking a long time you hate green.. Your tossing free money down the shat pipe.

>>51610797
How much have you lost?

>>51610864
If you want to be serious for a moment, as much as I would love to keep enjoying your angry schizoid turbdeboonker posts and savoring the autistic rage I have inccured, there is no comment on this from MSM either way. They are taking the wait and see approach. CNN an CNBC are dying and desperate for clicks and post on trending topics same day, as soon as they can.

Bloomberg covered the sentencing of top officials yesterday. Clearly there are problems leading up to the big party conference.

>>51610867
Is this 1-inch region on my inner thigh worth worrying about? Had it for like 3-5 years or more. Doesnt hurt or itch and has normal feeling

>>51610867
hf in the meatgrinder

>>51610929
>there is no comment on this from MSM either way
yes.. because it's not happening, retard.
https://www.newsweek.com/xi-jinping-house-arrest-china-military-coup-rumors-1746014
any news agencies that are reporting on the rumor are quick to shit on the rumor and say it is false
Look, just based on your words in this post, you clearly just went and tried to find a source to corroborate it, and failed to find anything
When you do that, and fail to find any results backing your position, maybe, just maybe, you should go "huh, yeah, it's a retarded twitter rumor afterall - but it would be interesting if it was true though"

So a bunch of companies on my radar corrected last week like GM and SeaWorld but apple Is still going crazy... its inverse the dollar like a bank for the rich...

I was nearly sure the worst had past but then I realized that would be the perfect time to rug... well fuck idk what to do..

So are we supposed to pump the markets next week because of a rumor and then rug pull because of an unrelated news release?

>>51610975
Average in slowly, maybe 25% every month and a half

>>51610966
Thats how coups typically are, first on twitter, then al Jazeera english usually spots it a few more hours before everyone else because they employ actual journalists and have closer ties to AP, then CNN FOX or MSNBC will get it first followed by the others, Bloomberg et al will get it last, but have the most in depth reporting on it. Very lastly several days later, Foreign Affairs etc will do the most in depth reporting but days after it's well known, sometimes unerthing new facts no one else reported due to depth.

Coups in Africa/Asia etc usually have a lag of several days. I understand you may not have a lot of knowledge/interest in foreign affairs, and that this may be your first coup, and so, am willing to forgive you.

should i keep shorting oil bobros ?

>>51611008
this isn't a fucking 3rd world country 50 years ago
this is China. a nation with smart phones and internet.
when there is no coup, nothing happens, Xi is seen in public within a week, what will you do then?
Nothing, I'm sure. You won't even acknowledge it. You won't acknowledge that you were being a total panic fearmongering faggot.
most recent, Myanmar - covered immediately

>>51610931
It’s fungal infection harmless. Same shit that causes athletes foot

>>51610867
Sounds like pasta but how did you become a reservist as a dermatologist?

>>51610867
Male like Warren Beatty in the movie "Reds" and sneak into Finlan :DDD

Try not to get caught tho

>>51611039
Thats retarded, but thanks. I'll buy ointment and take care of myself then

I got jewed on a put option 3 minutes before close. Neon green monday shemiatah fakeout

>>51611022
Like i said anon, I get that you're a newfag to foreign policy, probably don't have a basket of podcasts, twitter users, and blogs from academics to follow, and don't understand this very well. You probably thought you were talking down to some /pol/ack from your haughty position of a few polisci classes at an unranked shit tier state/city school, but you aren't, and thats how the coup game goes sometimes, most often even. It's by definition a time of uncertainty, the greatest time of uncertainty. Often, people in the same government don't even know what's going on. Have a nice day. I hope it isn't true and that you don't lose everything.

>>51611039
On that note: What's the best drug for treating Athlete's Foot and fungus? I've tried all the major brands, and generics, and nothing seems to work for me. I did find out I'm allergic to miconazole though

>>51611085
>anyone who calls me out for trying to fearmonger panic on unsubstantiated twitter rumors must be uninformed on foreign affairs
this is you.
you're a faggot.
if you had started from the very beginning going "hey this rumor is circulating, seems like bullshit though" nobody would have attacked you.
It was you spreading this shit like it was gospel, like it already 100% occurred - it's spreading lies, spreading panic
people who spread lies, people who spread panic, they are faggots. simple. you're a faggot.

>he didn't sell after Putin declared partial mobilization
lmao, all the noobs must be seething over this rookie mistake.

>>51611050
You should probably consider showering sometime you smelly NEET.

>>51611113
Rumors and panic are the absolute keys to making it anon. How do you think the most successful trade ever happened around the battle of Waterlog, founding the greatest banking Dynasty of all time.

>>51611165
lol waterloo* typo

>>51610994
Okay because I went 80% back in friday before close and now I'm scared. I bought shit I legit thought were oversold and good companies like intel... meh.. I still have a few hundred puts on apple so worst case scenario I break even at the point I should be making the most. I wont be eating a shotgun but I may slap myself.

>>51611183
Why would you do that? SPY is going back to 75.

Is there any point to trading intraday? It's just choppy random bullshit constantly.

Imagine linking to twitter for info is a reliable source lmao

>>51611183
INTC... Did you know a woman heads their dying data center business?

>>51611197
I'm assuming we're going to get some surprise news that crashes is lower so that investors know the bottom is in.

I also work with a jew and he said its probably not over. He's a special jew that actually does labor.

>>51610867
Break arm

>>51611217
Doesnt matter too much to me. Their financials are great. Debt to equity is great. Assets keep increasing. Revenue is great. They're the most like canidate to mass produce semiconductors in America too

>>51611165
>battle of waterloo
rothschilds agents who came to the london stock trading square and spread the lie that England had lost at waterloo were also humongous faggots, just like you, who is also spreading lies

>>51611220
If he's a jew that does labor he's not connected

>>51611022
Kek, that's because some tictok thot was recording a dance and the coup happened in the background behind her

>America is down 25%
>International is down 33%

>>51611240
Like I said, greatest trade of all time. But I don't actually know if it's true. It doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility. It's a rumor, and a rumor with legs. The market lives and dies on rumors. You waiting for the MSM to have your back is why you're so bag laden, and so triggered. Buy rumor, sell news. Oldest advice.

>>51611236
>mass produce semiconductors in America too
maybe they will be allowed to keep producing there
however if the dems keep meddling in papa xis taiwan business this could change rapidly

>>51611277
>I don't actually know if it's true
It's not.
>It doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility.
It is outside the realm of possibilithy.
>It's a rumor, and a rumor with legs.
No, it does not have legs. If it had legs, there would be agencies reporting on it. Think about how many agencies reported on the rumor of Putin's surgery / cancer, they still were keen to point out the whole time 'this is just a rumor'
It doesn't have any legs. If it just on twitter, it doesn't have fucking legs.
>The market lives and dies on rumors
Yes.. rumors that could be plausibly true.. a rumor saying that Xi Jinping is under house arrest and that there is a military coup in China is not plausibly true, is ridiculous, and would be retarded to make a trade on.

>>51611274
Wtf anime is real?

>>51611252
Hes connected to those that are. Hes having a big jew party holiday next week.

>>51611323
ironically only in japan

>>51611310
The jewish curse has more substantiable evidence to back it. Xi coup is a lizardmen theory

>>51611274
that's a man

>>51611274
I watched this at least 10 times
Damn

>>51610800
based. looking forward to it

>>51611310
China is on the brink of financial crash and thats not fake and gay. Xi being over thrown is likely just a distraction of what is happening.

>>51611343
Boys asses have come a long way in the last 5 years. How can we increase their estrogen levels further?

>>51611334
Jew curse is real because we make it so. The catalyst is invisible but the breaking news will be seen as a catalyst.

>>51611352
>>51611352
I want to short oil but IDK how friendly to NATO they will be.

>>51611334
Why not both?

>>51611360
She’s just asian

>>51611277
Shmita is over. Go grovel ssomewhere else

Whose ready for bank failures? Barclays is getting sued for overissueing sales trying to turn pensions further into baggies.
>>51611406
>asians no longer are sexually dimorphic

It can't get much worse can it?

I've admitted it's a rumor, you're the one categorically stating it's false.

If you're wrong, and it is true, you now have to dip your balls in icyhot for a minimum of 30 seconds or post a video to linkedin of you singing the russian national written on your forehead to render yourself unemployable, your choice.

>>51611476
Bonds can still blow up.

>>51606489
>>51606489
>>51606489
>>51606489
NEW

>>51611483
I heard a rumor recently that you're a faggot
turns out it's true

>>51611491
seriously?

>>51610468
>Safe
Savings account because cash is king or SPY/VOO/total market index because the market will go up
>Risky
TQQQ or SQQQ
>Fun
Luxury clothing, certain reselling are actually lower or at retail due to people trying to flip for profits

>>51611494
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/gordonchang-china-coup/2022/09/24/id/1088867/

here's an NYT collumnist saying he thinks the specifics are true, but that something is definitely going on in China, sweating yet?

>>51611538
specifics are untrue*

>>51611458
No way that’s a man. It isn’t. Is it? Who is it?

>>51611538
>NYT collumnist saying he thinks the specifics are true
oh so it's absolutely fucking nothing?

>>51611513
Lol.

>>51611538
>Far East expert Gordon Chang said the rumor is likely "untrue," but he noted there is something unusual going on in China and "there is turbulence" among the Chinese Communist Party leadership.
>The lack of news from #China over the last few hours suggests coup rumors are untrue, but whatever happened inside the #Chinese military during the last three days — evidently something unusual occurred — tells us there is turbulence inside the senior #CCP leadership," Chang tweeted Saturday morning
I am fine with this being pushed, that there is some turbulence going on
I am not fine with some faggot coming in here saying that there has been a military coup and Xi has been overthrown, and that everyone is going to lose all their money
the first one is reporting on what is going on
the second one is being a fearmongering panic driving faggot

>>51611583
You know what happens if it is true on monday right? You understand what would happen no? If theres even a 5% chance it is true?

>>51611583
One is intentionally vague jewish bullshit and the other is dishonest jewish bullshit.

>>51611652
>>51611652
>>51611652