/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>51590850
web3 is a retarded vc pitch to rob your money
buy BTC, take self custody, and ignore all those crappy buzzwords

>>51590903
any guess how much of btcs value has/will come from web 3? No? Maybe you shouldn't post then.
>>51590850
ICP. Tokenized assets players, Polymath, xdc, lcx, albt. Interoperability play is quant (NOT polkadot, if you don't know why, go actually fucking research what both do and make your own comparison)

>>51590903
BTC was just a buzzword 10years ago

>>51590903
I have always known web3 is shit

>>51590850
What hype? It is just a scam.

>>51591016
ICP is shit.

>>51591257
Decentralization is key, because it makes the bitcoin network resistant to attack. You need some education.

>>51590850
No

>>51591332
What an enlightened and thought provoking response. Your contributions to this board are numerous with quality unmatched. Faggot.

>>51591383

>>51591332
you got robbed

>>51590850
it's not hype which is why there is still time to make it. there are several projects that'll be the web3 version of google, amazon, etc. buy now before 2027-2030 when they're at google, amazon, etc., prices

>>51591285
what else do you know? web 3 isn't just a buzzword. There is real value in web3, that's why some crappy project would want to jump on the bandwagon

>>51591364
bitcoin is old and clunky and has no privacy, cope

>>51591593
Ok I’ll buy ICP now ser

I didn't even know there was a web 2 how do i upgrade my web browser to see 2?

>>51591016
>ICP. Tokenized assets players, Polymath, xdc, lcx, albt. Interoperability play is quant (NOT polkadot, if you don't know why, go actually fucking research what both do and make your own comparison)

if you cant explain this in simple terms and make it something normies would want to use, it will never amount to anything.

>>51591593
but we already have google and amazon

>>51591647
You just fucking spoke my mind. The anon could be a dev.

Speaking of Web3, I think data service is a crucial aspect that fosters its development and adoption.

>>51591686
web3 is an inclusive economy. Big tech is making money off your data. Wouldn't you want a piece of the cake, normies?

>>51591686
I don't think there is any project with the same functionality that can surpass or outperform these projects in any way, including in MCAP. Do you think there are any?

>>51590850
Ocean

>>51591647
>>51591733
fucking kek. reddit moment. retards are out in full swing today.

>>51591399
why should I hang on to ICP, retard?

>>51590903
>ignore all those crappy buzzwords
example: buy BTC

>>51591811
you shouldn't, it's too complicated for normies. best thing for you to do is sell kek

>>51591285
I was once a retard like you, but now i know better, WEB3 is a bang

>>51591831
>BTC
another stable coin

>>51591763
That's why folks are agitating for Web3's mainstream adoption. I like what Ocean and Geeq are doing in this regard through their data management solution, which can be used by enterprises. This is an edge over the conventional ones, and it will expose the business world to the space.

>>51591364
Decentralization will not be spearheaded by the people. Any attempt will be thwarted with the stroke of a pen and a propaganda campaign. You need some education.

>>51591332
>ICP is shit.

>>51591791
Fuck you and your ICP maxi. Who cares about your techy project if it doesn't benefit everyone but rather rugs everyone?

>>51591615
Icp is doing very well, bullish on this token

>>51591951
Ser look at this tech

>>51591597
>There is real value in web3
>crappy project

How do people do this much cognitive dissonance on the fly?

>>51591332
I've been telling everyone this and nobody listens. Reef finance.

>>51591963
Do you mean bearish?
Yeah, I'm fucking bearish as well.

>>51591615
ICP is fucking overrated

>>51591643
I think you have to buy bitcoins for that. Y'know? Like some how the crypto does encryption in the browser and then you get web 2.0

>>51591832
anon, you need to enlighten the retard, how else can he loose his chains?

>>51591993
I'm damn looking at it and then what........................................................................................?

>>51592083
It’s good tech ser best in class

>>51591733
>Speaking of Web3, I think data service is a crucial aspect that fosters its development and adoption.
>>51591647
>if you cant explain this in simple terms and make it something normies would want to use, it will never amount to anything.

>>51590850
Sylo
>it's gaining traction, tech is good with a smart wallet that supports P2P transactions

>>51591868
>another stable coin
>stable coin
Another buzzword to ignore

>>51592083
Buy bitcoins?

>>51591763
data ownership seems to be a thing now. You get to choose what you want to share or not. Privacy in communication will be big, sylo doing that with its decentralized communication

>>51591836
i like the fact that Web3 will not be controlled by any single entity nor censored.

>>51592097
Let's be factual about this, please. How do you define good technology when the majority of people in the space don't use it? If it's been used, the price won't remain like this because adoption is often accompanied by price movement. As much as I lobby for good tech, I also care about the bags. Get that, and don't let all this Jewish dev delude you.

>>51591597
You are right fren, there is real value in web3 and its adoption will be superb, ORE network foster adoption to web3 through a DiD which folks can use to seamlessly connect btw web2 and web3 platforms.

>>51592175
data ownership was always there. it's called privacy, always has been.

privacy in communication just means you stop looking and tracking, which you never should have been doing in the first place if you had any decency. people hate being doxxed though, but they dox you constantly.

>>51591763
>web3 is an inclusive economy. Big tech is making money off your data. Wouldn't you want a piece of the cake, normies?

i still dont understand what you mean. i want to stream movies online and order stuff on amazon and ebay and watch youtube videos.

what are you offering?

>>51592164
I have BTC, eth and also few undervalued project with strong tech that can witness adoption if everything pull through.

>>51592175
Data theft is becoming rampan, it need to be protected

>>51592237
Token just launched last year chill dude it has the most commits on GitHub

>>51590850
It will be like web2, except instead of logging into everything with your facebook or twitter account, you'll log in by connecting your crypto wallet to everything and things that don't need to be exchanged as NFTs will be made into NFTs for no reason and you will be forced to pay out of pocket for it every time because they insist it's more secure and then you'll get hacked and lose the title to your care, the deed to your house, and your bank account will be emptied.

>>51592227
Yeah, it's gradually taking away control away from the behemoths who currently control it.

>>51592422
>Yeah, it's gradually taking away control away from the behemoths who currently control it.

nobody cares about that.

>>51592400
Cool

>>51592260
Factual, projects these days are user centric and will actually put the user first before their profiting.

Maybe it might not gain traction now, but people are becoming aware.

>>51592453
Because you dont care faggot doesn't mean no one does

>>51592301
>if everything pull through.
I got news for you fren

>>51592453
>nobody cares about that.
you can go to hell dearie

>>51592491
>Because you dont care faggot doesn't mean no one does

no normal person gives a damn. they use google, tiktok and all the rest.

they wont move to some crappy web 3 version of those things.

>>51592227
For sure, it will be completely decentralised, and users can choose the kind of data they share when they interact online through a secured identity

>>51592328
It was always protected. Very simple. Don't look, don't steal. Don't do things with what you're not supposed to be looking at.

>>51592530
>you can go to hell dearie

yes, who am i to disturb your fantasies.

>>51592491
>will actually put the user first before their profiting.
Holy fuck do you actually live in today?

>>51592535
Oh we had that thing that came out in the 90's that did the same thing, what was it called again? Oh yeah, THE FUCKING INTERNET.

>>51592534
it obvious your are dumb and need to be flushed into the gallows

>>51592660
>it obvious your are dumb
prophetic prose

>>51592534
Normies will always be normies

>>51592660
You're not meant to be herhere

>>51592660
>it obvious your are dumb and need to be flushed into the gallows

obviously. google and tiktok wont be popular at all once your wonderful alternatives are launched.

>>51592422

another edge is data encryption, which protects user information from leakage and is exactly what the Sylo end to end encrypted confidential messaging app offers

>>51591763
A lot of projects recognize this and gives power to the community to contribute to the dev and earn from it. holoride already working on its SDK

>>51592759
google didn't grow to be popular overnight, same as tiktok. these alternatives will take a while but definitely some day they may grow to take over the markets

>>51592515
Pass it on, Anon.
I just hope it's something cool.

>>51592339
It doesn't matter. This is among the project that keep painting DeFi black. Glad some project are putting in the right approach and energy to see enterprise utilize data solution. This is what we all desire in the space not some sort of rug pull pill.

>>51592780
Decentralization of storage makes data leaks harder to occur, this is a plus when considering alternatives

>>51591285
If web 3 is shit, then you are non existent

>>51592928
>google didn't grow to be popular overnight
been watching since AOL days, it practically did

>>51592250
Am I the only one who thinks ORE is an insane play right now? 6,000$ daily volume the shit is lifeless and under a cent but has the potential to absolutely fucking explode next run. They aren’t going anywhere, actual use case, the token is needed, already being used.

>>51593663
amount of exposure is directly related to privacy. stop putting your personal info on the web, that includes facebook/tiktok/reddit/snap/etc...

>>51593798
>Am I the only one who thinks
Yes. Yes you are. Everyone else has manned the lifeboats, stop pumping.

Icp is the only web3 project. nothing else comes close and won’t for years after they can copy what Icp is doing fully

>>51590850
You are simply retarded, do you not know that web 3 is an all inclusive niche in the decentralized world from privacy, to security, to data management and so on, pea sized brain.

Are they metaverse projects that cut through the web3 niche?

>>51592759
>obviously your aol, netscape, AIM, sega, etc wont be popular once "x" alternative comes out
google and tiktok will just buy them out

>>51590850
What the fuck does developers gonna gain from Web3

>>51590850
My Web3 plays be ranging around Decentraland, Sylo, Velas and holoride (Web3 gaming been an integral part of its ecosystem given the fact that it's centered in cars for value creation and productivity as well).

>>51594386
Bitches ain't waiting for shits anymore, they've got the capacity to build a pussy ridden metaverse, set up a DAO, launch a DeFi product, and deploy DApps that are free from the problems plaguing most of today’s public blockchains.

>>51590850
Not just hype but people throw it around too hard so it's hard for people to understand what it really is.

Right now the internet is siloed. You create your account on ONE platform, feed them all your information, build an identity on that platform, and then it's all pretty much locked there. Occasionally there's crossover, but it's very hard to pull off in the current structure. At most we just see "Sign in with Google/Twitter/Facebook" oAuths as the closest thing of having a global profile.

With Web3 it's the opposite way around. Instead of you going to platforms and manually giving them your info to build a profile there alone, they come to your global profile and use information there to build a mobile and dynamically updating version of it on their platform.

It means your journeys around the internet actually add up. If you're an artist it means your entire portfolio goes with you instead of being locked on tumblr when that piece of shit dies. If you're a gamer it means all the worthless skins and shit you already willingly spend $$$ on actually be worth something, can be seen outside of that game's platform, and can be built upon by other developers. The achievements you earn in game can be seen outside of Steam. If you're a simp, it means everyone gets to see that you donated $6000 to Lilypichu, and maybe later down the line she does a special "luv u" doodle for her top donors or something that they can display proudly in their profiles alongside their favorite LoL skins in a virtual gallery (that pulls info from their profile so they don't have to upload anything manually on their end).

People who don't see the transformative nature of this tech and how it reshapes our relationship with the sites we visit and how we use the internet are honestly and unironically low IQ. They're the type who would argue emails are pointless because we have fax machines and nobody has a personal computer due to how slow and expensive they are.

>>51594596
>My Web3 plays be ranging around Decentraland,

oh ive seen and experienced that particular piece of trash. who in their right mind is going to spend time there?

>>51592759
Facebook is just so useless... They've got no more hope metaverse

>>51592842
That how you know a project with a strong team with hard dick, they support any programming language for building smart contracts, enabling developers to build the metaverse by coding in any language they love to fuck. You feel that anon?

>>51594888
>Facebook is just so useless... They've got no more hope metaverse

i dont like facebook either. but that doesnt mean i like crap like Decentraland.

>>51594838
Sounds like a gay coming closer to my buddy

>>51595113
>Sounds like a gay coming closer to my buddy

erm, ok. just saying i have been on Decentraland and it really sucks.

>>51592400
>It will be like web2, except instead of logging into everything with your facebook or twitter account, you'll log in by connecting your crypto wallet to everything

Yes.

>things that don't need to be exchanged as NFTs will be made into NFTs

To an extent, probably, but there will be use in many of those even if there will be plenty of pointless ones made.

>you will be forced to pay out of pocket for it every time

No? Do you you pay for the data usage of the websites you use currently? That'll be for the most part subsidized by other means, especially since by this point we'd be on L2s or even L3s.

>and then you'll get hacked and lose the title to your care, the deed to your house, and your bank account will be emptied.

Current UI/UX isn't normie friendly and will be abstracted away for things like social recovery built on top of smart contracts that actively monitor potentially risky transactions and straight up prevent them from going through without something akin to a 2FA. People like you really have 0 ability to recognize how technology progresses. If you used the internet back in the 90's you think it was stupid because clicking a random popup can completely wreck your shit if you're a moron. Tech has dramatically improved since then, UI/UX is more streamlined, protections are put into place so Sandeep has to jump through complicated hoops if he wants grandma to send him $2k when before all he had to do was send her a fucking link, etc. Most normal users aren't going to be interacting with the current iteration of Web3 just like most normal users don't have to understand shit about TCP/IP to visit websites anymore. It's all built on top of and abstracted away - it still exists in a layer that most people don't even recognize unless they study computer science. Happens under the hood.

There will still be intricate ways for people to scam just like how your cell probably still gets blasted with scam calls. But it will be harder.

>>51595108
Maybe they've lacked some good asian pussies to fuck, making them feel retarded. But I think no one's gonna fuck around Qanplatform, as the chain is EVM compatible. Retarded developers can port their already stinky existing metaverse projects from the Ethereum network.

>>51591399
>>51591563
>>51591928

>internet computer
>scam since literal beginning
>shitty slow useless webapps.

>>51592400
Web3 is more than just logging into everything with your crypto wallet. It's way more decentralized, with its use of blockchain technology helping to put users in control of their data, rather than at the mercy of a few centralized authorities. But I feel you know that already. And it's already possible connecting web2 identities to the blockchain through ORE network, helping to facilitate a seamless transition from web2 to web3.

>>51594773
Bitches are building virtual environment and earning from it with the elastic content SDK

>>51595583
Being able to log in to blockchain wallet with as easy as social media accounts will lower the entry barrier into the crypto space. this is a giant stride forward if you ask me

>>51594594
Incentive for your contribution? Fucking retard. I would want to contribute to building the metaverse and earning from it. Give me the elastic content SDK

>>51593663
Kek..web 3 is definitely the future but before that we need to have more transparency especially with roadmaps and shit. Been looking and XPRESS and MILE for that. I think they're working together or some shit

I just want a 100% anonymous, censorship-proof, decentralized place where I can shitpost. Will web 3.0 give me that?

>>51596287
ICP badlands… look it up

>>51595984
Shut the fuck up poor old shit faggot, developer's got a whopping lifetime motherfucking rewards offered on the quantum resistant hybrid platform. This ain't trannies anal hole.

>>51590850
Web 3.0 is AI powered content and services. Blockchain and crypto is useless.

>>51596540
What the hell does this even mean? What does AI even have to do with Web3? lmfao you guys are something else.

>>51596287
Only if its a decentralized shitcoin and the hosting is done indirectly on many machines like some new p2p decentralized hosting platform that doesn't exist.

>>51596287
>I just want a 100% anonymous, censorship-proof, decentralized place where I can shitpost. Will web 3.0 give me that?

yes but there will be nobody there

Yeah it's a complete meme. It's annoying to see projects im into push for it like its going to happen tomorrow (shinja, wom, etc). It's like they think everyone is a fucking retard (which I don't blame them for that t(be)h).

>>51597040
wom is 100% focused on an advertisement model for a theoretical web3 though anon, that's their product
>their sole purpose in the business is hoping for a fanfiction of a technology to release, some day, out of nowhere, so you can deploy your idea
imagine

>>51591257
You compare fucking bitcoin itself and all the shit it has created with some concept made up by NFTbros to entangle troglodytes like you and I swear to christ I'm going to find you

>>51597040
Stupid fuckin boomers love it though. They hear that shit, they self lubricate and give you money. They invest heavily in things they pretend to understand.

"Wowzers internet 2.0!!!! That sounds incredible!!!"

>>51595159
I bet you won't find holoride boring when the product launches.

>>51590850
ICP. and only ICP

>>51590850
what the fuck is wrong with this board. 120 replies and no mention of The Graph (GRT)? it is the google of blockchain. if web3 and crypto are the future then GRT will pump like crazy

>>51596668
You are retarded. Web 2.0 was pushed by user generated content, social media and smartphones. Web 3.0 has always been about blockchain, crypto and Defi. And almost 10 Yeats later nothing has been done. Meanwhile the Real web 3.0 emerged this year AI generated content.

Crypto is a giant ponzi where only the retatds that can't into AI go to make money of even more retarded people thinking their shitcoin is worth something. And this goes for ETH and BTC ad well

>>51590850
It’s not just hype but right now it basically is. It might be something in 5 years.

>>51597594
web 2.0 was about the html hyperlinks and dns

>>51591763
Data monetization is indeed the major usecase of web3 which makes identity management a hot topic as regards data security.

>>51591898
Your comment simple made me realise how much decentralization needs privacy to actually work.

>>51591963
Ngmi, sell that shit for a lowcap with more potential OGV, ORE and SOV are better risks to take.

>>51592175
>Privacy in communication will be big
Privacy is needed in every niche in the cryptospace and in defi especially as its all about wallet/asset security.

>>51592250
Linking web2 account to web3 has to be the best strategy to seamlessly move from web2 to web3 without worrying about data loss.

>>51592301
If you are big on web3, you should have projects offering identity management, web3 access and data security in your portfolio.

>>51592842
That's simple called a DAO and so far only few are really working the way they should. Personally RAIL is the only DAO token I have owned with realistic benefits and dedicated community.

>>51599730
Sylo is doing something along that line. Mainly on data security in communication

>>51599730
it's one project that does that - it's ICP

>>51597594
>And almost 10 Yeats later nothing has been done

You have to be over 18 years old to post on 4chan.

Retarded grasp of timeframe in which technology develops aside, Web3 already has connectivity - just because you aren't using it doesn't mean others are. I use Web3 logins every day, end enjoy the interoperability that comes with digital assets.

>Meanwhile the Real web 3.0 emerged this year AI generated content.

Name 1? Are you talking about A.I. art? What does this even have to do with Web3 in the first place? It sounds like you're just kinda throwing words out into the blue without understanding what they mean. What do you even define as Web3, first of all, because I honestly can't even comprehend how one makes the connection between A.I. overtaking blockchain in terms of Web3. Can you sign into multiple platforms with a single A.I. based profile?

>>51599315
Already being worked on via with ZK tech stacks. It takes time to develop technologies, everyone is so impatient and hardly anyone takes the time to actually educate themselves on the actual computer science going on under the hood of these projects. Privacy will be an inevitability; it will allow you to do things like actually own your medical records and confirm them anonymously over the internet with a physician across the world without actually revealing any personal information about yourself.

>>51590850
test

>>51593864
You wouldnt know a potential gem if you see one, any project simplifying the barrier to entry to blockchain tech, ease of use and smooth multichain experience will definitely have a good run in the next bull season.

>>51595824
Giving blockchain and web3 access to all class of people is what we need right now in the space if we are to see mass adoption.

>>51596287
All you need is a privacy protocol like Railgun which helps maintain anonymity on-chain for any transaction.

>>51597136
>expensive as shit transactions
>7 TPS on a good day
>created to decentralize but follows traditional markets
>muh store of value, dumps 80% on a slight S&P hiccup
yes anon, btc was a real breakthrough

>>51596287
Railgun fixes this. Fully privacy and anonymity on-chain.

Believe it or not web3 will usher in a totally new paradigm for human life as we know it. Whether that's a good or bad thing, I do not know, but I recommend loading your bags just in case.

>>51596287
Yes, you can achieve it with privacy protocols. Railgun fixes this with its advanced privacy tech. Full anonymity and privacy on-chain.

>>51594596
Sylo seems quite unique with it decentralized communication protocol, Normies will need it in the metaverse sooner or later

>>51590850
Web3 most especially the web3payment method will rule crypto next, one reason I don't Joke with Utrust

>>51600900
>Doesn't know what decentralization means

>>51590903
it's not tho, decentralized blockchain security is beneficial, however nobody takes it seriously because right now it's run by PC gamer nerds, VC hedgies and NFT money laundering scam artists. the concept is flawless, however the exectuors are retarded. maybe 10 years from now, it'll be something but I guarantee it won't be run by retards like vitalik, wright or heart, more like apple, microsoft, salesforce, etc

>>51600473
ORE is a potential moonshot then, seeing as its making it easier to onboard users to the blockchain and web3.

>>51601951
I stake UTK along side EGLD
>>51590850
Web3 is the future

>>51590850
Ethereum is - and always has been - the chosen chain of the NWO. Big developments are happening. Make the right choices by 2030, and you’re set for life. Watch what happens when the FED finally unveils their CBDC, running on a private version of Ethereum.

>>51597378
Why only ICP? Diversifying has always been my preference, and I believe it's preferable to do so to prevent getting rekt all at once. More ROSE, FWT, REEF, DOT, HPS, CATE, etc. would be wonderful to accumulate this season.

>>51599730
Yeah, I've got Ocean for secure data access and Ore for identity management on-chain

>>51603020
I'm holding dot and fwt as well. A macro and a micro cap. Always diversify your investments and pick long-term investments that you feel comfortable holding. I'm also adding sand, dar and tsuka.

>>51592328
Data is directly linked to your identity in web3, goes to say identity security and management will ultimately bring data protection.

>>51592400
>It will be like web2, except instead of logging into everything with your facebook or twitter account, you'll log in by connecting your crypto wallet
This is the only sentence with some sense in all your ramblings.

>>51590903
Boomer alert.
It's quite de opposite, Bitcoin will die since you can't pay for web3 stuff with it

>>51601951
In as much as I agree with you anon, the payment niche is the lacking in on-chain privacy which is a major set back for mass adoption.

>>51601177
>Available on multichains
>Non-token gated
>Uses relayers
>Auditable via view key
>Mobile version available on iOS and play store
Not bad for a privacy protocol imo.

>>51604647
That's definitely not how its going to work out.

>>51590850
web3 is a trap for pajeets that can't get rich on the real stock market, proof of stake literally forces you not to sell a speculative asset in order to earn rewards which leaves you holding the bag for these vc parasites, does 11% apy sound even remotely sustainable to you? they have figured out a way to run a ponzi scheme with no legal liability

>>51590850
Not at all the decentralization it rings to play doesnt make it sound creepy

>>51591016
>>51591016
Yeah Interoperability plays like Cosmos, should add LRC and RAIL cos L2, PrivFi might be a thing.

>>51590903
Web3 is a gold mine of new age tech, but like what
>>51602255
said it's still in its infancy and is still made up of hundreds of communities, some being very cult-like and others being built on full blown scams.
Once enough people can wrap their heads around the technology and it becomes more easily consumable by the public it will quickly get adopted and turned into the standard.

This is similar to how the internet was at first laughed at by most "experts" in the late 90's who said it was about as useful as a fax machine. It took a lot of weirdos and nerds to pull it together into something worth using.

>>51594834
This is only one half of the puzzle. The other key component of making Web3 actually take off is to be able to integrate the internet seamlessly with real life applications. Web3 can completely roll on through IF it can come up with a way to bypass the grueling and unhealthy requirement of a person having to sit down to a plugged in computer or be stuck staring at the phone all day long to accomplish online related tasks.

Once Web3 can help humanity return to doing things in real life, it will take off.

>>51599369
I know ORE started some sort of online hackathon alongside RFOX, not sure wtf SOV is all about