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Buddy look at yields computer.

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CRBPajeet blown the fuck out

Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aokirvECNdk

Some of you people need to go socialize or something and stop posting these stupid posts.

>>51582808
Yields finally did something!

>>51582778
how can you NOT be scared of this

werent futes green across the board earlier? whats the news?

>>51582841
Fear is the mind killer

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>51582841
>-.1
Call me when the decimal moves twice

>>51582841
I make enoguh to slurp your weekly paycheck as chump change.

>>51582841

>>51582846
Lots of reports tomorrow,powell and other feds sperging out again.

All this bobo posting making me a little nervous about some of my shorts. Think I might close some of em before the weekend so I don't get retard jammed by a bull trap mumu dildo before I reload up some more shorts

>>51582841
Oh my god, is that a 0.1% decrease? I'm going insaaaaaaaaane

The more bulls cry the more money I thrive. aahhhhhhhhahahaha

SAVA. WTFWT.

>ironically posted

>>51582862
It's my understanding that next week is historically one of the worst weeks for stocks.

>>51582862
Dont forget to buy tsla calls

>>51582841
its not even funny, yet everyone keeps doing it. i don't know why i bothered replying to the first post to begin with. that said, i'm still convinced that friday will be a crab day. what happened today more or less confirmed my "thesis" of 2 crab days after the fomc meeting. next week is what i'm interested in

>>51582862
It's literally the shemitah. All the permabull wsb tourists post on daytime smg.

NlGGER JPOW

Here's your target interest rate bro.

>>51582882
I did today on a scalp that lasted all of 10 minutes

>Are you winning, son?
Yes dad. Always.

>>51582882
Jew here. If you hold a bear position on tesla, you had better exit within 3 months. Biden is going to announce the nationalization of every EV / SOLAR bear's rectum in the next few months. All in accordance with the war efforts in ukraine that have nothing to do with his / his sons private interests there. Whatsoever chud.
Where was I

>>51582834
I have unironically dedicated my life to the stock market, programming and online business. I will NEVER socialize with anyone ever again. No thank you. No siree bob.

>>51582790
When's the bottom and why isn't VIX going up?

Shitmada is real. Get on my ASTROLOGY LEVEL. I invest like a Billionaire. Motherfuckaaaaaaa!

anyone have an explanation?

>>51582922
I told my dad to short the market (with leverage) during that fake pump 2-3 weeks back and I made him 23% in a of just a few days. He was happy. I love my pops.

>>51582924
s-source?

>>51582935
I stopped trying to fully understand it awhile ago

>>51582928
Didn't they restructure how vix operates so we aren't going to get anymore retard spikes?

>still in cash because no good buy opportunities
I understand we're in a clown market but fundamentals mean absolutely nothing and have only fucked me when I've used them

>>51582925
>I have unironically dedicated my life to the stock market, programming and online business
this. I hate people so god damn much you wouldn't believe

>>51582935
We need Putin to set off a nuke somewhere on the Southeastern front for us to be able to get back to clown world volatility. I don't even think that the S&P losing 7-10% in a week is enough to get it going again. The market is desensitized at this point it seems.

>>51582973
then stop using fundamentals?

i need to coom in an 18 year old grill's pussy right away or else im literally going to die

How do I long anime? Is Kyoani a publicly traded company?

>>51582986
what do I use then? just meme fomo?

>>51582990
Kadokawa is all you got https://www2.jpx.co.jp/tseHpFront/StockSearch.do?callJorEFlg=1&method=topsearch&topSearchStr=94680.. Maybe you could privately invest in Cover corp if you are a high roller.

>>51582957
I believe I said "Whatsoever chud".
>>51582973
dis nigga dont know his primary colors.

>>51582995
2 types of trading analysis fambo, fundamental and techincal. for the past decade fundamentals haven't really mattered as much, especially these last couple years. i don't know what you're strategy is or what you do for trading, but try technical analysis like the rest of us

>>51582973
you're going to need to describe what you think are fundamentals

>>51582995
Look at the volume profile to find local bottoms and ride to the local top. I am mostly cash but was able to make back 1/4 of my YTD losses off that last pump. I did not buy the bottom or sell the top, but I didn't lose more.

>>51582949
I'm worried about my father. He told me the 08 crash pushed his retirement back years. I asked him what's in his retirement portfolio. He said it's mostly bonds. Will be be ok?

>>51582978
I just hate niggers desu

>>51583027
Like peloton having negative eps and massive debt and no sales and going +30% in ah

>>51582949
>>51583032
You should tell him not to log in to his portfolio tomorrow. Or ever, if he shorted the bottom.

>>51583032
no

>>51582978
All my life I legitimately thought there was something wrong with me/that I was the bad guy/ was an immature edgy autist/something for find socialization excruciatingly painful and as it happens other people really just ARE that fucking insufferable. Sometimes it really is everyone else BUT you that is to blame. I have fully accepted myself now that I'm closer to 30. Society is is almost always wrong. Just be yourself.

Literally haven't seen another human being's face IRL in close to a month. Might go for a stroll this weekend though since the weather is cooling and it's getting nice out.

>>51582935
you've been told many times vix is manipulated to make moron mumus buy high and sell low

ATTENTION
Germany has fallen out of the top 10 stock markets globally

That is all

>>51583072

>>51583027
>company is not profitable
>pays no dividend
>sells a shit product
>still goes up ad infinitum
there are very very few stocks tied to actual value and growth opportunity
I've put a lot into uranium and have offset most of my losses that way, but even uranium feels like it's afloat because of speculation and not future value

>>51583032
Depends on what bonds, but bonds got hammered as hard as stocks this year
>>51583040
Ok so you're shorting, and on earnings days... that is not fundamental trading. Stick to long term and don't short, greedy boi. Or if you are going to short, close it before earnings to be safe. If you are confident a company is going to shit itself then you don't need the extra dip. You could have made a ton of money off of meta's downturn not even including their shit earnings that made them lose the most value in 1 day in history.

LOOK HERE CHUDS!
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>>51582790
i bought the wrong puts
i bought puts on apple and that mother fucker crabed all fucking morning long. fucking steve jobs cultist let that fucking shit drown NOW

>>51583072

>>51582989

how can DXY still rise after that massive pumps?
how retarded do you have to be to say: "fuck yeah 30 year high reached let's slurp this shit"

>>51583032
Sadly no. Same thing happened with mine. He was in the low 6 figures in 2008 after 20 years of toil and then lost most of it and then eventually had to liquidate most of it. He was laid off during the pandemic (got another job thankfully) and he was given transferred custody of his account and he only had like $50k in it. He started a business during the pandemic that was mostly word of mouth and now I'm helping him set up digitally. I'm building him a website, setting up social media platforms, etc etc. I told him that if he want's to make money in the market to get short because this is going to be a lost decade for stocks. The system that they believed in was a farce.

>>51583127

>>51582989
Make sure to take care of your funeral arrangements so that your family doesn't suffer

>>51582989
RIP nigga

>>51583127
>world becoming increasingly uncertain
>where should i put my money now that currency has gone through 30% inflation in egypt???
>let's buy USD
repeat that for every single country in the world, and you have your answer

>>51583127
That's not how that works and also it's going to set all time highs very soon.

>>51583152
markets don't behave rationally
enjoy being poor

secretbenefits.com
literally (((connect))) with 18 year olds

Why do people care so much if markets go up or down? The direction doesn't matter, you can make money either way.

>>51583113
>>51583072

That looks like a dehydrated slug.

>>51583127
I literally bought 5k dollars worth of TQQQ at 22.25. We rise tomorrow bobo

why the fuck are shitcoins pumping
this is supposed to be the greatest depression

>>51583178
am I going to get some CIA malware if I follow that URL?

>>51583174
that's not a market, retard
that is a currency

>>51583229
>why the fuck are shitcoins pumping
this is supposed to be the greatest depression

>>51583201
General Theme: https://www.bitchute.com/video/QQ98L9Jeqx2S/

>>51582790
Where to cop?

>>51583229
Large crypto stakeholders are desperately trying to keep BTC above its previous all time high. If it breaks significantly below $18k then the trend is broken and crypto is finished (forever).

I've been losing money for the past week...
Also during that time, my family came to visit me and we somehow made it through their entire stay without them once asking me why I don't have a gf or any friends at all
So that's a success I guess

>>51583262
>crypto is finished
i keep an eye on usdc since its blackrock's shit,if it starts to go down,i know what happens next

>>51583268
Lose some weight and take a shower. No girl is going to play with your smelly cheesy worm

What reports are coming out tomorrow? GDP or employment or what?

>the nation with the highest spend in military capita is going to suddenly fail
You should be 70/30 calls puts on QQQ& SPY

>>51582995
technical analysis. chart witchcraft and wizardry. tea leaf reading. it ought not, rationally, work. but it does. it does IF and ONLY IF you backtest whatever combination of crap indicators you scrounge together to see if they would have told you to buy and sell at times in the past that would have resulted in winning trades. do not go youtube learn about smelliot waves, assume they work, immediately try to trade with them, come here after you lose money complaining that your smelliot wave strategy led you astray.

>>51583249
Oops didn't mean to reply to him

Women owe me sex. How do I profit off this?

>>51583268
I have a found a pretty good excuse that stops the worry
>I really love my family and my friends
>but they are my family and my friends
>please respect my privacy (and fuck off)

>>51583314
>https://www.investing.com/economic-calendar/
its gonna be bad if its come out no good

this is obviously a jewish scam to get in the doorstep.

>>51583245
>can't even greentext properly
Newfag redditors out themselves instantly

>>51583343

>>51583062
socializing with new people is always the same bullshit pattern you forget the content anyway. I've stopped caring years ago.
>Literally haven't seen another human being's face IRL in close to a month.
I WFH and need to see faces virtually, but I haven't seen another person IRL for years unironically. I order groceries online and let it ship to me

>>51583362
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>>51583364
Post original, faggot

>>51583374
Ouch.

Bobo is winning bull bros.....

>>51583391

>>51583296
Those aren't my problems
>>51583343
Yeah but I don't have any friends. I guess I'm relieved that they didn't ask.. since I didn't have to come up with an answer or excuse like that. But at the same time, I feel like them not asking means they've given up on me.

>>51583364
Sadly it doesnt work on family

How is buttcoin staying aloft

how the hell is BTC holding above 19000?

BA-bros, this is not good. NOT GOOD.

>>51583424
Kek was this related to the pajeet coding?

How do I not get JUSTed when the US defaults on its debt? Better yet, how do I profit?

Fuck me I'm kicking myself for selling that SOXS. But I guess it's better than stubbornly refusing to take profit

>>51583404

>>51583413
>>51583419
Might go under 17k tomorrow or stick under 17.5k

>>51583413
>>51583419
see >>51583262

>>51583062
>I have fully accepted myself now that I'm closer to 30.
>Literally haven't seen another human being's face IRL in close to a month.
hahahhah
there will come a day you no longer even answer the door.

>>51583447
>US
>defaults on its debt

>>51583474
It makes perfect sense. They can't pay their debt cause their currency is too valuable.

>>51583456

>>51583322
the stock market going down is not the same thing as america failing. cycles exist and are healthy

>>51583407
> I guess I'm relieved that they didn't ask.. since I didn't have to come up with an answer or excuse like that. But at the same time, I feel like them not asking means they've given up on me.

Fucking make up your mind. Do you want friends or don’t you? If you want friends go join a club. It could be table top games or art or bowling; doesn’t matter. Otherwise accept that you are a loner and be ok with it.

Ffs, anon. You sound like a god damn teenager. Act like a man. Either you’re a hermit or you are social.

>>51583487

>>51583474
>>51583486
check yields: we're screaming toward a sovereign debt crisis at hypersonic speeds

>>51583236
currencies are a type of market, you fucking idiot. stop posting here

>>51583506

>>51583524

>>51583447
>>51583474
>>51583514
im going to be completely honest, i have no idea why higher yields on our debt and more valuable currency our debt is priced in AND our removal of our amount of currency via QT AND our lack of ability to print more due to inflation WOULDNT lead to america defaulting on its debt...
but im pretty sure its not gonna happen. sorry, im just sure is all!

>>51583514
How does that work with dxy also going skyward?

>>51583514
A country cannot default on debt it owes in it's own currency

>>51583520
maybe you should stop posting if you don't understand that tapering and demand increase in the same year means it is rational for the dollar to go up, stinky monkey

>>51583236
> that's not a market, retard
that is a currency

>futures
Good friday incoming

>>51583495
Why yes sir I do hve a second (maybe third) job. Ha. Yes, I am also a technigger. Haha. No I do'nt want fries I do KETO or OMAD.

>>51583537

Whats happening on the 26th?

>>51583581
Shmittha

>>51583581
Mumus slaughter.

>>51583539
>>51583540
>>51583546
So the current solution to inflation is to raise rates, which is risking a US sovereign default, and your proposal is to just print infinite money to avoid the default? Seems legit, faggot.

soxl bros ...

I ...

>>51583568

>>51583548
MARKETS AREN'T RATIONAL.
Economics isn't a falsifiable science. fuck off, cretin back to HS econ with you

>>51583626

>>51583609
Just accept that MMT has life hacked economics

>>51583638

>>51583609
>he thinks a government would rather default on debt it owes IN ITS OWN CURRENCY rather than cause inflation
That's just too funny

>>51583656

>>51583609
i just said they cant print money to fix it. idk how theyll avoid defaulting. but they will
never bet against america baby

Fight for 30k is fun to watch

>>51583644
>MMT
Get the fuck out.

Why are media executives so clever? What absolute genius came up with the idea of bundling all major news networks into a diffuse pile of megaglomerates so that they were impossible to short?
It's literally something Smith wouldn't believe possible. Firms which sell things no one wants to buy, yet stay afloat. And yet you can't short them because they are a mixed into a big nebulous bag.

Unironically, media suits are transcendent IQ.

>>51583675

>>51583683
I will simply print my way out of your hostility

>>51583708

>>51583660
>>51583674
Did I trigger one of your keywords?
US sovereign default
>US sovereign default
US sovereign default
>US sovereign default
US sovereign default
>US sovereign default
God forbid the goyin start discussing the US sovereign debt crisis! SHUT IT DOWN!

>>51583722
huh? im not mad at all. im freely admitting i have no fucking idea what im talking about. im just telling you, theres no way america defaults on its debt. how ignorant yet correct i am is definitely looking like its pissing YOU off however

>>51583717
That's literally how you redditors got us into this mess in the first place.

>>51583722
*m

why line go down

>>51583741
This is some really bottom-of-the-barrel shilling if you're resorting to "you're wrong because you just are, okay?".

>>51583720

>>51583756
Asian markets rugging,again

>>51583609
would

>>51583772

>>51583722
Take your meds, brainlet. A sovereign nation with control over its own currency can print as much as it wants to pay off its debt. Just look at Argentina for an example

>>51583765
thats exactly right, its just not gonna happen

>>51583784

>>51583756
low volume futures 9 hours before market open.. literally meaningless

>>51583795

If I make it, I want to learn how to play the saxophone.

>>51583790
Argentina is literally collapsing right now from hyperinflation you fucking retard. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

>>51583811

>>51583835

If I make it I'll pay Cover enough to make me Mikochi's canon husband, with a live streamed wedding event and all.

>>51583843
Lol I'm going to bed good meme war

Lmao the troon discord that's been raiding /k/ for the last few months got all butthurt and followed us back here after that /k/-/biz/ crossover thread last week. Good luck affording your frozen period blood sticks after the crash, faggots.

>>51583854
night

>>51583816
>Argenwho

>>51583815
Nice picture.

>>51583101
To play ERs you basically need to bet on how mispriced the stock is. But like abon said, fundamentals dont seem to matter any more. I tried to play ACB expecting it to shit itself alongside FOMC rates and it moved like 2%. Had 10 otm puts and calls all go worthless.
I know greeks and why otm is a bad idea but my point is that the price didnt move. It stayed put. I want one of those juicy 1800% returns you sometimes see

>>51583816
Is your attention span so short that you can't even track a conversation over multiple posts? Your point was that the US will DEFAULT ON ITS DEBT, I said no that's impossible because the debt is issued in USD and they can just increase the money supply to pay off their debt. You then tried to say that they CAN'T because it would cause inflation and I replied that's fucking dumb and you can just look at Argentina for a counter example

>>51583873
Nothing you said invalidated my point. Argentina had to choose between default and hyperinflation, so they chose hyperinflation. The US is going to have to make that choice soon as well.

ASX is kill

>>51583795
I wonder if shovel dog's owner/killer was ever caught.

Bobos, if you're ready to take the supple bussies of mumu, reply to this post or tomorrow is green.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=BRELs2SQPeE&feature=share

>>51583873
More realistically if the US did go hyperinflation to service its debt, what would the ramifications be? Eg USD might lose confidence, some reserve currencies might be pegged to gold or Yuan etc.
But since the global economy is literally built on continuous debt, it wont get serviced, ever. New debt and new loans will keep being issued like a giant ponzi scheme, except itll be the poor people that have to foot the bill due to how inflation affects them like an invisible tax

@51583917
Fuck you, I do what I want.

>>51583905
he was, apparently he had a ruff time in jail

All hail the petrodollar.

>>51582989
How many USDs do I need for exclusive coom rights in a cute grill

>>51583925
Yuan is burning who the fuck wants to swap from usd to that piece of shit? Russia has the safest currency in that block because something like only 30% debt to gdp

How do I buy US treasuries to collect my yield?

>>51583990
They have such a high yield because of the increasing risk they won't pay out.

>>51583962
Oh I was just saying the first currency that came to mind as an example.
If there was a new world reserve currency, I doubt it would be the Ruble due to political risk. Given that its clown world, probably China or India

>>51582275
A quick search says the shoeshine boy incident was in "Late summer of 1929." A weekly chart shows a topping process from the week of August 26 to the week of September 16. The week of September 23 (anniversary is now) was when it started going to shit, and then the week of October 14 was the big crash after the dead cat bounce. October 24 was Black Thursday.

Remarkably, 1929 was not a shemitah year. (1924 and 1931 were).

>>51582505
They'll be telling the story of the bogs a century from now.

>>51583674
They can print more and they will. Combined with other techniques they'll use at the same time, the net effect will be indirectly taxing plebeians and foreigncucks to pay off government debt holders. As plebeians will be taxed and the money will mainly go to large institutions, it won't show up in the CPI for many years and will therefore be declared "non-inflationary."

In case someone is going to ask how you tax foreigncucks while paying off foreign bond holders, you trash their currencies so they have to hold yours, and then after they take payment in your currency you print even more money. The only thing you need to get away with this scheme is military supremacy, which Argentina doesn't have.

>>51583990
You buy them at discount and redeem at expiry them to collect

>>51584011
I thought bonds were risk free? What’s the risk?

>>51584012
Ruble survived financial war just fine

>>51583892
It's not a choice. A governemnt will never default instead of inflate. Inflation devalues a currency over time but a bond default would result in the same thing as foreign investors demand for the governments currency vanishes overnight

>>51584027
don't listen to him there's no risk

>>51584013
>In case someone is going to ask how you tax foreigncucks while paying off foreign bond holders, you trash their currencies so they have to hold yours, and then after they take payment in your currency you print even more money. The only thing you need to get away with this scheme is military supremacy, which Argentina doesn't have.
They can just dump your treasuries like Japan is threatening to do, though. And the US can't start heckling its allies like that, especially not militarily, if it needs them to face Russia and China.

ywn

>>51584041
I figured Russia would be ok because it had its own oil. Energy independent countries and energy exporters get to bulli the energy dependent countries today.

SQQQ was the best decision of my life. How far down you think things will go?

>>51583795
christ...

>>51584027
>>51584049
>>51584056
Look at what happened to Greece once their bond yields started to spike at debt levels similar to ours. It quickly turns into a runaway self-reinforcing spiral.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_government-debt_crisis

soooo, black friday tomorrow right?

>>51584079
Only Xi knows for sure.

>>51584104

>10K in ibonds
>38K in 3 month treasuries
Stop trying to spook people. The US is AAA- rating. they CAN'T default, it is illegal.

Make a crappy company and then use another company to short it then let it go bankrupt. Free money. Then create another company to report losses and congrats your going to jail for tax fraud... with bitcoin over seas ya you will leave jail in 10-20 years richer after hodling but still jail!

its me
im the shoeshine boy

>>51584102
Greece's currency was the Euro, it doesn't have any control over it.

>>51584137
Can you short your own freedom? Almost like wheeling irl

>>51584145
My point is that Greece is an example of what happens if the printers are broken. Since were already in an inflationary environment, the printers are broken unless we want to try our luck with hyperinflation.

Red futures = green tomorrow

>>51584172

>>51584063
Japan doesn't have much of a choice if it gets heckled since China is right on top of it. China's neighbors need the US even more than the US needs them, with the possible exception of India, the only one that might break ranks. Russia already exposed itself, and allies aren't needed there. The US is at more of an advantage if the EU remains nearly unarmed, and therefore vulnerable to heckling.

>>51584167
The only printer that's broken is the FEDs. The Treasury will happily issue more bonds to pay off the old ones.

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>>51582981
Shemitah swinging into high gear soon I think

>>51584215
Betting your continued financial existence on how effectively you can rough up your allies seems pretty risky, if you ask me.

>>51584263
That would make the problem worse by crashing the bond market and raising yields even more.

>>51583843
Bussin

>>51584194
Cope fucking tranny nigger filth

>>51584352
>cope
Nuh uh

>>51584315
It is, yes. I didn't say it was a brilliant idea, just that they can do it.

There are three ways it can backfire: internal conflict in the US, a nuclear war breaking out, or the US outright losing a conventional war. The latter can be avoided with nuclear deterrence, and the US has enough nukes to deter everyone at once, so if there's a failure it'll probably be because of self-sabotage.

Are REITs a bad idea right now?

>>51584387
>it'll probably be because of self-sabotage
And after everything that's been happening in the country since 2020, you don't think that's a major factor at play here? If I didn't know better, I would think they're trying to steer it straight into the ground.

>>51584407
What do you think?

>>51584407
I'm going for public storage REITs once unemployment and mortgage defaults starts ticking up again. The storm is forming, but has not started yet.

>>51584434
I think it'll be fine. Rents will keep going up.

>>51584421
It is by far the biggest threat the country faces, but the question at hand was whether or not they can avoid debt default by printing more money. If they decide to default on purpose that's another story.

>>51584474
They're raising rates so that the opposite happens.

things have gotten eerily quiet since last night

Have 3% in EM outside USA and it feels like too much looking at currencies and markets there

bros what happens when the ticker is a negative number

>>51584575
You just subtracted 2 tickers. Didn't realize ToS could do that.

>>51584602
oh ok that makes sense
neat

Never too late to say fuck INTC and all of the shills writing paragraphs saying otherwise.

>>51584673
as a leveraged semiconductor investor, i too say fuck INTC

>>51584673
SEMI CONDUCTORS ARE THE FUTURE!!!!!!

Pussy gel is an OTC shitcoin now and up 13% today. ASMB still holding listing compliance (for now).

>>51584692
Cope

>>51584692
this but not intel's semiconductors

>futures

>>51584553
Still can’t believe Abe is dead.

>>51582790
FED keeps hiking we go down. I said this in like spring and so far it is playing down like that, with some rally's here and there.

>>51584723
stfu zoomer

>>51584848
Dow futs are flat

>>51582841
Oh no markets go down sometimes. Who cares, as long as I'm getting my divvies I'm happy.

>>51584407
REITs tend to leverage a lot of debt to earn competitive returns. On one hand, any previous debt is now effectively profit, in the same sense that anyone with a sub 3% mortgage right now is feeling happy to continue their low fixed payments while renters see their payments skyrocket with each renewal.
On the other hand, new debt is expensive and rents haven't actually risen enough to offset that at this point. Also the actual returns right now are pretty bad, even if all goes well.

This is a generalization though, there are subsectors like office or commercial REITs which are kind of fucked right now due to the permanent work from home shift lowering office usage and the continued death of old malls.

>>51584889
if you enter the market after the fed announces they are done you missed 90% of the meltup

probability of global war?

>>51583127
USD is best currency, USA is best country. That's why bobos will be heemed eventually.

Too high

Hang Seng Index, November 2006: 18,500
Hang Seng Index, September 2022: 18,000
it's over chinabros...

>>51584953
>markets always go up bro just trust

>>51584923
I didn't enter it because I don't have money to play with stonks. So I just look at macro trends, and so far those say that you should stay out of stonks.

At what point do you move your 401k into cash

>>51584953
Dividend boomers win once again. Speculators lost 16 years of their lives. Dividend bros received 50%-100% of their invested capital via dividends.
Incomming zoomer cope

>>51584971
why stay out when you can buy stocks that make you money off a falling market?
>Stonks

>>51584968
almost every buyer since June 2009 is in the red

>>51584994
You don't. Not after this. It can still drop 10 to 20 percent but don't sell now because chances are you won't buy back cheaper anyway. If you're not about to retire it should be ok

guys how long until we can start buying calls
is investing dead for the next decade?

>>51585030
you should be selling calls

>>51585002
Personally I just want to save up and then wait for another bull market.

Market crashes Nov 22nd 2023. Pension pay outs and inflation are inversely related. Boomer pensioners will be forced to retire or lose a significant percentage of their pension payments. This mass retirement will be absolutely devastating the transportation sector because pilots will be retiring. Supply chain is already frail and this is the nail in the coffin.

>>51585038
> selling calls in the most undervalued market we had in very long time.
Will you give him back the money that he will inevitably lose by following your advice?

>>51584104
2 more weeks

>>51585049
Selling puts would be a better option, worst case maybe acquire some good stocks at an even more undervalued amount.

>>51584953
loaded up between 19000-18000 catching that falling knife
after the election they probably scrap the zero covid lockdowns if they don't want to completely reverse to stone age literally can't just keep shut down forever.
I can only imagine how big that meltup will be on the day they announce it

>>51585049
ok then buy some call options and post them here

>>51585073
I don't gamble options. I'm just saying that this dude is giving an advice that has tons of risk associated to it given current circumstances.

>>51585030
It's over, withdraw all funds. Max out all credit cards. Buy gold bricks and bury in your backyard. Kill your neighbor because he saw you burying it. Raid his kitchen for canned food.
Then camp out in your underground bunker (you DO have a bunker, right anon?) with your AR-15 and wait at LEAST 20 years before coming out. Possibly longer.

Beclown posters you have beheemed yourselves

>>51582990
Unironically it's NFLX. They basically buy the few most popular anime each season and have it out with translations/dubs by the the start of next season.

That said who even pays for anime?

What's the next big pump and dump scheme

I'm only down 8k and I'm still buying more

>>51585156
my portfolio desu

>>51585115
>who even pays for anime?
normalfaggots

>>51582860
Wait Powell talks again tomorrow!? Is calls not a good move right now???

>>51585049
i hate FAGMAN so much it's unreal

>>51584994
>>51584994
That was around November December last year, if you didn't sold you fucked up pretty big, we are not going to see those leves in about a decade

AVCT

WTFWT!!!! IM RICH

Thank you short squeezers

EVERY MARKET IS DUMPING

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Why are the futures red?
Projections for the day?
I'd say dow closes about 0.6% down today

GUESS WHAT TIME IT IS????

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>>51585040
Idiot

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>>51585441
Based

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>>51585441
Thanks cunny poster. i prefered the 2nd although i'd prefer if it were solo. followed by the 1st, its art style however is less appealing then the 2nd. This may be controversial, but the 3rd, is too young and makes me want to clear my browsing history and clean my temp files. Cheers.

>>51585115
NFLX will give you the price action for their other stuff instead of a pure play. As for who pays, here's a revenue breakdown. Funding usually comes from a production committee, a group of Japanese companies gathered for the project. Most of those are private. If it's an adaptation the company behind the source material might pay for the project to advertise their stuff. The production committee hires a studio to make it.

On the revenue side there's advertising companies and consumers. The top consumers are single salarymen. There's also a lot of collectors who spend big, and fans who buy BDs to support studios. The merchandise sells to basically everybody in Japan and a lot of foreigners. Live entertainment involves a lot of music concerts. Pachinko, with its surprisingly big slice, gets gambling addicts, but this chart is leaving out video games. Licensed IP for video games brings in a lot of money, especially gacha games milking gamblers. You can't separate the anime industry from the manga industry, which sells shitloads to people of all ages and train commuters for cheap prices kids can afford.

So, are we sussin or bussin today?

>>51585498
futes be sussin rn fr no cap

>>51585382
>why red
Pricing out the USDJPY scare from yesterday is my guess, now that it's settled down. Some anon mentioned economic data releases but I haven't seen anything.

>prediction for today
Down 1-2% is my guess, bears very much in control at the moment, but they don't have far to go before reaching the resistance at SPY $363

>>51585517
I thought the yen purchase was good for stocks. There is no major economic data today

How are markets not oversold short term? One would expect a bounce soon?

>>51585049
>Graph goes back 5 (five!) Years
>Doesn't even compare to financial crisis P/E let alone 1970s
>Excludes enormous portions of the index
>Doesn't account for how inflation drives Down P/E

Anon what happens to prices if earnings go down and P/E remains the same?
Do you think earnings now are accurate to earnings in the next quarter? Demand is still strong, but it won't be pretty soon.

by how much will nsdq100 drop by market close?

>>51585587
179

>>51585600
>179%
ill take my billion dollar put please

>>51585623
I didn't mean percent. I meant 179. That's just shy of 1.6%.

>>51585571
We're pricing in two more rate hikes this year
Fuck if I know when it will end though

Yields...

so... stinky...

>Heh, BLOOD red futures mumu. Like limbo I think we can go even LOWER. See you at 2000.

kek who shorts vix

For fucks sake who the fuck is still selling after literally a year of this shit?? Just insane faggot algorithms going short on ridiculous leverage continuously bringing everything down in unison. Meanwhile the actual companies are still doing fucking fine. God fucking dammit man.

>>51585644
How is this stupid shit still being "priced in" if it's been said over and over for an entire year? Billions and billions erased from massive companies every time there's a spooky headline but somehow it still catches everyone by surprise? I call bullshit

Just realized that I'm down $20,000 from my LEAPS that I bought at the peak. Feels bad.

>>51585264
>IT'S GOING TO LITERALLY BE TEN YEARS BEFORE WE'RE BACK AT THOSE PRICES LOL
God bears are at euphoric levels of cockiness. I think we hit bottom six weeks ago and now we're just fucking around before a stupid pump.

>>51585708
>For fucks sake who the fuck is still selling after literally a year of this shit??
Because the good times are over you QE addicted permabulltard nigger.

>>51585726
Last one was supposed to be the last one
Now we get two more this year and two more years after that before they'll lower rates

>>51585753
Oh yeah you're totally right the US economy is done for and the government has lost its hold as the biggest dick on the playground that makes literally everyone use its currency to do anything. All those huge companies have definitely stopped making future tech that everyone uses every day, how did I not notice??

Nah fuck you and your ridiculous bearish bullshit

>>51585765
No one has said "this is the last one" though? It's all just insane mainstream media speculation that triggers headline scraping algorithms that are leveraged short to the tits

>>51585780
I'm not going to bother explaining this to you, just go all in long retard. World needs physical workers like you.

Even if we reach the bottom soon it's just going to crab for years, isn't it? Will leveraged ETFs still work out long term in a high interest rate environment or should I just give up on them as long term investments?

>>51582924
> p/e over 100.
Not falling for your jew tricks. I will short this shit until something breaks

>>51585797
>High interest rates
Interest rates are still historically low and have been trending towards zero/negative for decades. Everyone conveniently forgets that the governments of the world need "high inflation" to ensure that they don't default on their absurd debts. Just watch.

>Waterfall pattern on futures

It's going to be a massacre

>Vix shorting is free money

Vix is like insurance for hedge funds.
When you short it you are basically selling insurance against drawdowns.
Selling insurance works most of the time, because most houses don't get burgled and the river doesn't flood, but when that does happen you are fucked.

>>51585942
Best way to short vix?

>>51583502
>Ffs, anon. You sound like a god damn teenager. Act like a man. Either you’re a hermit or you are social.
Loners can still feel lonely, retard.
Fucking American don't understand nuances so it's either all or nothing with them.

>>51585797
based upon many papers written on the subject, you should only be long time holding a leveraged ETF when the underlying ETF is above it's 200 day moving average
since we are far below the 200 day moving average on every sector ETF, it doesn't make sense to be holding it leveraged long term
otherwise, you should just be swinging it for a day or two / intraday trading it

>>51585942
>against drawdowns.
Actually SPX can dump in a controlled way that doesn't spike VIX. Index puts are better "insurance". Or selling index call spreads although they have a smaller max profit.

Buy the dip everyone :)
it's black friday!

>>51586017
Munger said the only real way to make it is to hold leverage long term and just make sure you have someone to bail you out when you're down 70%. That's where I'm at right now so I unironically think it's about time for things to bottom out. I'm still DCAing into SOXL, for what it's worth

There's no way we actually march down to the June lows today, right? Surely there's a rally in between?

>>51586042
You're down 70%?

>>51586056
On my SOXL. Average is like 35, been slowly throwing $50 at it on really shitty red days and waiting to throw a bigger chunk at it eventually. My whole portfolio is down about 60% overall but as recently as a few weeks ago it was only down like 25%. I'm entirely triple leveraged.

>>51583722
Dude, fuck discord.

Migrate

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>>51586076
kek what a loser

>>51583905
He wasn't, everyone in shitty countries have killed dogs before.