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Imagine not owning an actual piece of your favorite Japanese animes

>>51576011
What is an anime cel ?
>A cel, short for celluloid, is a transparent sheet with three holes on the upper part, on which characters are painted for traditional, hand-drawn animation. They are filmed and then put behind one another to give the illusion of a continuous motion.
>Each anime cel is unique, hand made and coming from animation studios.
>Anime cels have been used until 2000/2001.
https://www.takamura-store.com/v3/en/content/7-what-is-an-anime-cel

where 2 cop and how 2 not get scamed kind ser?

>>51576011
You piqued my interest. Where do I buy them?

>>51577137
unironically eBay sellers with good feedback and an old account.
japanese sellers are typically quite reputable.
weeb conventions are great for scoring rare pieces at good prices, if you can stand the smell.
there are also a lot of small, independent sellers. the more the site looks like it's from 1998, the more reputable:
https://www.animanga.com/db/cels

the nice thing about cels, specifically those that come with the background painting or the ginga/douga (the sketch used to make the cel) is that you can tell it's old just by looking at it.

often times, the paper will have the faint smell of cigarettes from chain smoking 90s japanese animators. the whole thing is very kino.

>>51576011
>Anime-cels
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>>51577382
I guess the fact that cels stopped being used in early 00s somewhat limits the choice. Not a huge fan of that era of anime. Wonder if pic related was animated using cels?

>>51577396
>You will never own Ippo knocking out Sendo
>You will buy stupid gorilla pixel art jpegs on OpenSea
>You will never be a woman
>You will own nothing, and be happy

>>51577499
Lol triggered you hard here. You can talk on >>>/toy/ about your need to consume.

>>51577455
2001 is the year a lot of studios switched to digital. If you watch Great Teacher Onizuka, it's pretty clear which scenes were digitally animated and which ones used cels.
Some studios like Ghibli held out longer. Occasionally a studio will cel animate a modern production as more of an art piece, like Redline:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redline_(2009_film)

There are some long-running Shonen that originally started as cel animated and later switched to digital. One Piece and Naruto come to mind. Most of the popular Toonami shows from the 90s and 2000s were cel animated.

>>51577643
Interdasting. Thanks. Redline was indeed very based. Modern anime don't use cels, but what about key frames? Can you buy those?

>>51577569
>your need to consume.
that's what /pmg/ is for, fren

>>51577696
You can buy key frames of cel-animated shows. They're typically more expensive because the art is better.

>>51577703
>A gold bug loves to consume worthless shit
Like poesie just so fitting kek. Don't forget to pay your 20 % premium on your shiny rocks LEL. pmg also belongs on >>>/toy/ btw.

I bought a cel from Rocko's Modern Life. The one I bought is actually shown in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5ASJFlxv4E

>>51577718
As I said, not a huge fan of anime from that era, although there were some gems. I would like to get my hands on some key frames from Madoka Magica for example. It's a personal interest, rather than trying to make $.

I sure do think that cels from famous anime have potential to be very valuable in some decades, but I don't think it's a particularly attractive investment, unless you do it for enjoyment's sake. I'm not sure drawing a parallel with Pokemon cards is sound reasoning.

Fuck me WHY

>>51577832
Ahh, you mean like genga sketches?
>https://animecharacters.tv/pages/about-genga
They're really cool but their authenticity is tougher to verify. It's almost the type of market you'd need a knowledgable collector in Japan to help you out with.
>I'm not sure drawing a parallel with Pokemon cards is sound reasoning.
it's mostly just b8. there's a pretty lengthy market history of cel-based animation (about 80 years) so the prices of famous works are relatively predictable.
Pokemon cards definitely have some kind of value from a nostalgia standpoint but I'm not sure what they'll be worth long-term. It's not like Magic where the game itself is still popular, though I admittedly don't know much about trading cards of any kind aside from owning them in my youth.

>>51577809
that's sweet, anon. that show always scared me as a kid.

>>51578085
DO IT FREN. picrel is already in my collection. Gainax shit has gone up a lot in the past few years.

>>51576011
>Anime cels
>>51577396
>>Anime-cels

kek the jokes write themselves.

>>51576011
>>51576108
>>51577499

that pretty cool but I wouldn't pay any major money for any. At the most I'd pay like $5. If it's a cel from Ninja Scroll or something really based I'd maybe pay a bit more but not much.

>>51578337
>Ahh, you mean like genga sketches?
Yeah, anything "genuine"/one of a kind, basically.

I plan to make enough in crypto to be able to work with nip artists on cool stuff. Maybe even produce anime. Just need ETH to 10x.

>>51578472
good luck, fren!
brypto oldfag. it's been pretty good to me, bought a farm and live a quiet life in the country with my wife now.
I got really dissuaded by the whole industry after working for a wallet company and a large cap DPoS chain. The grift on the inside is truly insane, even among the most reputable outfits, and there's not much effort towards genuine utility.
Really hoping that the ongoing market rout bankrupts a lot of these (((projects))) so some solid ones can emerge again. There's a lot of use for append-only database tokens we're not even touching at present.

>>51578609
>it's been pretty good to me, bought a farm and live a quiet life in the country with my wife now.
amazing, anon, I'm happy for you, legit brought a tear to my eye reading it
I started investing in crypto because I thought bitbean was funny. Isn't that poetry?
I'm planning to use my modest crypto wealth to build a house for my dad back home, but I'm a hermit myself, will move to Japan when they drop the mask nonsense

>I got really dissuaded by the whole industry after working for a wallet company and a large cap DPoS chain. The grift on the inside is truly insane, even among the most reputable outfits, and there's not much effort towards genuine utility.
Really hoping that the ongoing market rout bankrupts a lot of these (((projects))) so some solid ones can emerge again.
It's disheartening, but I hope you made enough to make it worth your while, fren

>>51578707
>I'm planning to use my modest crypto wealth to build a house for my dad back home
That's so freakin' wholesome, anon. I sincerely hope you're gmi. Your pops must be proud.
My dad moved to the farm with us shortly after we closed - he lost his job for being a pureblood and I couldn't put him in a home. It hasn't been without its challenges but life's pretty cozy.
We even put up one of those Amish cabins in case my mom has to do the same someday.
>I plan to make enough in crypto to be able to work with nip artists on cool stuff.
rolling for you to be able to buy at least a J.C. Staff tier studio!