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Let's talk about 2 scenarios for smartcon:

Scenario 1: Smartcon goes exceptionally well, everything we hoped for comes true, staking is released on top of even more positive news. Its a media success, everything goes better than anyonr imagined.

Scenario 2: Event is a catastrophic failure. Nobody cares, nothing is announced, zero media interest, nobody shows up etc.

In both scenarios, what happens the following day. In svenario 1, does the price even pump? Or does it continue to crab. How about Scenario 2 - immediate price dump?

Will it be a minute by minute analysis of whats being said with people hovering their hands on the buy/sell button, or will smartcon be a nothing burger regardless of what's announced and we continue to crab for another 5 years?

>> No.51534395

>>51534310
I think it will go well and people will sell the news. Crypto price is basically determined by normie stocks controlling Bitcoin controlling alts, with random pump and dumps orchestrated across alts when good news happens. I see absolutely no way LINK sustainably pumps in this macro scenario. Best case scenario a pump to $12-15 which slowly bleeds back down below $10 over the next month.

>> No.51534481

>>51534395
hate to say it, but this is prob spot on. No worries though Ill just keep holding another 3 yea—ACK

>> No.51534548

>>51534395
>>51534481

So we're fucked either way

>> No.51534938

>>51534548
Yes. Nothing will meaningfully pump until the macro situation clears up, which is likely years away. 2024 might be a really good year for LINK, definitely 2025 if an actual bullrun repeats.

As far as the actual institutional adoption that we are waiting for, that could literally be a decade away. I’m personally going to try and snag another 10K or so LINK at these levels for long term holds and then go heavy into ETH, which I’ll sell around $10K per ETH just to have some money to survive over the next decade. If you’re a poorfag you’re gonna have to find something that pumps hard next bullrun alongside your safer bets ETH and LINK. That said, if you have even a thousand LINK right now you’ll be rich as fuck in the 2030s if not 2025. Good luck

>> No.51535642

>>51534310
Don't think staking nor ccip will be announced during smart con, as the previous Smartcons never released anything either. Everything that has been released for chainlink has been outside of these events. I believe there will be a scam pump leading to the event and then a dump the day of smartcon or soon after.

>> No.51535757

>>51534310
There is very little interest already, they had to sell tickets at a loss so the venue is not a complete ghost town. The whole thing could have been a tweet or two, not sure why they insist to burn investor money on this, maybe it's an ego thing

>> No.51535776

Scenario 3: I fug ur mum

>> No.51535844

Smartcon is the start of the singularity. There will be major industry adoption announced which will trigger other major announcements in the weeks that follow since there would be no point hiding it once the cat is out of the bag. Buying pressure from institutions will dive price discovery while retail suddenly becomes aware of the project and jumps on board leading to a speculative bubble that surpasses Ethereums original bull run. Bitcoin and eth will either crab or continue to decline during this period as holders swap to link to try and recover their losses. The alpha version of staking will provide a ludicrous ror and a roadmap to the release of version 1.0 will be revealed to go life in the second half of next year. Everything we hoped for will come true and we will finally start to live our real lives.

I know this is true because it sounds right and if it isn’t I’ll have to get a job.

>> No.51535968

Actually a pump to 12-15 and then a crab down to 9.50 and that holding as support would be quite bullish. That wouldn’t be a disappointment at all in the short term.

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>>51534310
It will be like every smartcon prior, fucking boring with no news. The price will just continue as is.

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I think Ari is about to chrome the fuck up.

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>>51534310
Scenario 3: They can’t control it anymore as every single commercial/retail buy up as many as they can, causing them to panic and buy as well. Sending the price to $81,000. Me along with all the other anons, having our new wealth walk up to Mr. Shwabs house and beat his ass.

>> No.51536161

>>51536114
My nakama

>> No.51536235

>>51536114
holy zased

>> No.51536254
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51536254

It's over bros, our Chainlink journey ends here. The Great Reset timeline has come at a crossroad with humanity. The magic is gone, the memes are stale, the shills have been uncovered, the agendas laid bare for all to see, i-i-it's over marines...only tears from here.

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>>51535844
checked

>> No.51536674

>>51534395
I wish this wasn't actually by far most likely scenario

>> No.51536708

>>51535844
Checked and wasted on hopium pilled.

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>>51535844

>> No.51536903

>>51536674
Its really not that bad. Link climbed slowly last bear until it didn't, and its managed to maintain its USD pumps from .20-.60 cents range to a dollar, and the dollar to 5 dollar pump. The only growths it hasn't held onto were the parabolic smartcon 0 pump to 20, and the following bitcoin during bullrun pump to 50.

If we get back to 50, and possibly even 100, slowly and organically this bear, that's huge, because those will potentially be new USD floors for link. Say smartcon only gets us back to mid double digits, that's still a 2x. Another 2x from something bullish can have us back in the 30's, and from there 50 is easily within reach and doesn't require any massive pump. If link just slowly winds up back in the 50's middle of 2023 while the rest of the market is still crabbing, it wouldn't surprise me at all. And people here will still bitch and moan.

>> No.51537097

>>51536903
holy fuck the immense amount of cope

>> No.51537216

>>51535844
Checked and go get a job!

I don't have the blog post where they announced big integrations starting this Q3 but it seems their plans got delayed again.
We should get a release of staking V0.1 before the end of October and tech demos and more details on all the new features including DECO and CCIP with hints of the future integration for asset tokenization.
Unfortunately it seems we are set up for a capitulation event and peak depression for the SmartCon if we don't get a miracle after the end of the Shemitah quickly.

Staking v0.1 will initially use 25 million tokens and scale to 75 million tokens in Q3 of 2023 which means you won't get any income from this for one more year.
CCIP will be released in a beta test version in December if we are lucky and won't be in the official release version until the end of next year.

The only thing which could change this scenario is if they are waiting for the good news until the Shemitah is over and the macro improves at that moment and have their features in a more advanced state of development than we expect due to the ETH merge delays which gave them more time for development.

An announcement of the DTCC using Chainlink could also pump the price.

>> No.51537358

>>51535757
>they had to sell tickets at a loss so the venue is not a complete ghost town.
Source: trust me bro.

This thread is filled with pajeets

>> No.51537501

>>51537358
Unironically I still get reminder emails to register with the builder pass.
Unfortunately I am banned from going to Jew York because of their Corona antics.
Their youtube channel is a ghost town.

>> No.51537642

link pool holders and insiders are going to profit off the inner kike circle staking, the rest has to wait until January when serger announces another 200 million dump until q3 2023

>> No.51537688

>>51537501
>Unironically I still get reminder emails to register with the builder pass.
ok and?

>> No.51537778

>>51535844
>I know this is true because it sounds right and if it isn’t I’ll have to get a job.
this is me

>> No.51537853

>>51537216
>I don't have the blog post where they announced big integrations starting this Q3 but it seems their plans got delayed again.
this is wrong, this is explicitly tied to the released of staking:
>Another anticipated source of benefits for stakers is the Partner Growth Program (PGP)—an initiative where Chainlinked protocols and DAOs provide various incentives to accelerate their growth and facilitate cross-ecosystem participation. It’s expected that a number of projects benefiting from Chainlink’s security will take part in the Partner Growth Program.
https://blog.chain.link/chainlink-staking-roadmap/
this is where it could get big, if we get staking release, and these projects announcing at the same time.
also the other big thing will be tim beiko's talk and if there is any mention of chainlink being included as a data layer (enabled by the merge) like the rollups are going to be (a fast lane)

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Guys I beat one Final Fantasy game every smartcon last year I beat Final Fantasy 1 remastered what should I beat this time

>> No.51537978

>>51537877
final fantasy II

>> No.51538007

btc gigadumps in the coming days, dragging LINK down $5 but breaking out on the BTC an ETH pairs. market makers hope this causes some linkies to capitulate but it won't just like it never has in the past. high IQ linkies instead accumulate more during this dump and then we pump during and after Smartcon through 2023.

>> No.51538132

>>51538007
i should add that the dump will be triggered by some "happening" (think March COVID dump). this will ensure that as LINK begins its bullrun all the normies are distracted and focused on said happening

>> No.51538296

>>51538132
bigdogg is that you???

>> No.51538408

>>51537853
No it is correct.
They delayed their integrations again and didn't tell us anything as usual thinking that not saying it will somehow make it not count as failing on their promise again.
>The pool will start with an aggregate size of 25M LINK tokens, with the planned goal of scaling to a pool size of 75M LINK tokens in the months after launch, based on demand.

Until they manage to scale their staking to 75M you won't be able to join it.
As we learned from Sergey from his track record releasing something soon means one year or more of waiting time.
"planned" in the months after launch means in more than half a year after the initial release of staking.


https://blog.chain.link/sustainably-growing-chainlink/
>The Foundation expects that these token releases into circulating supply will be small in the near term and will be focused on the already occurring oracle rewards, until additional deployments are required for additional key initiatives in the third quarter of 2022 and into the first quarter of 2023.

Can't even manage to keep a 3 month older promise. The third quarter of 2022 will end in 10 days and there has been no additional integration of key initiative requiring some of the 50 million tokens which have been moved to Binance.
This means that all their plans from only 3 months ago have been delayed again, and once more they didn't tell us anything hoping that we would miss this.

If I had to invest in Sergey a second time I would not do it and would only look at his project as a possible pump and dump for swing trading.
The ETH merge kept getting delayed but at least you knew what was happening.

The Chainlink team just gives radio silence on their old promises hoping that it works out somehow and never notifies us of delays in their integration process.
If I have to analyze your project like I would analyze the actions of a psychopath then my trust in you is really low.

There is no reason to sell now, but it's still a bad situation.

>> No.51538467

>>51538007
>market makers hope to cause some capitulation
this is always the answer, regardless of smartcon expect some final megadump due to macro where they hope to shake of as many early investors as possible
just have some cash ready to go in with them

>> No.51538502

>>51538408
>there has been no additional integration of key initiative requiring some of the 50 million tokens
That you know of.
>This means that all their plans from only 3 months ago have been delayed again, and once more they didn't tell us anything hoping that we would miss this.
Poor you, they didn't tell you. They dont have to tell you anything actually. You know nothing about running a company this size and the hurdles you undergo. The whole point of this project is to integrate with others, what makes you think its their fault?
>If I had to invest in Sergey a second time I would not do it
Then leave and shut the fuck up.

>> No.51538581

>>51538408
That's a lot of typing for a crypto you don't like...

>> No.51538659

>>51538408
...
what do you think "key initiatives" are?
it means staking...
when would you announce that? mm maybe at their own conference in q3?

>> No.51538686

>>51534395
LINK is very much a sell the rumour sell the news kind of token.

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>>51538659

>> No.51538749

>>51534310
in both scenarios, an unrelated global catastrophe "coincidentally" happens and all markets crash 10%, bringing Link down 30%.

>> No.51538869

>>51538502
I can accept problems and issues in a project an delays.
What I cannot accept is getting the silent treatment after someone makes a promise to me and can't deliver.

Yes they don't have to tell me anything, which is why I trust them the same amount as I would trust a psychopath and am forced to analyze their psychology and actions the same way as for a psychopath.
But I can also criticize them as much as I want in exchange.
Not caring goes both ways.

>>51538659
Staking won't be released before mid October.
ETH just switched to PoS and they want to wait at least 1 month to see if a problem arises before doing something risky.
They also can't focus on the SmartCon and new features at the same time and won't do anything risky until the SmartCon ends + 1-2 weeks for recovery.

Getting delays in the integration process is worrisome on the short term which led to this single digit token price.
Chainlink will be successful one day, but it doesn't mean you can hope for staking to save you if you cannot wait for a few years.

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Scenario 3: sir gay waddles his fat chewed bubblegum body on stage, to deliver a speech of
>We're excited to announce that we're currently getting ready to finalize our initial implementation of the proof of concept for staking and have plans to release a road map soon for a new white paper describing how staking could theoretically work on a beta testnet, more announcements coming Q3 so hold the line link marines!! Oh and we're also gonna dump 1 billion this week and also I converted to Islam and I'm pregnant following my beautiful encounter with a Saudi sheik we're expecting two lovely twins, praise Allah.

I then follow him to his apartment above the San fran nail salon and then gouge his eyes out and crush his skull with a cinder block

>> No.51538949

To be frank, I don’t really care. If it dumps, I’ll buy more. If it pumps I buy less. I’m thinking of the incredible discount I’m getting, and a nice place to park money instead of tradfi or RE. I also think of it as spending <=$7/link for a chance of getting $50+/link with a golden goose or $1k<x<$81k depending on the hype, integrations and possible staking returns. Either way, each link I buy will be another link off of the market until I die.

>> No.51539033

>>51538869
i think you just need to go outside more and disconnect from all of this
have you ever had a job in the real world? talking about "promises" and shit around deadlines when the team has never promised anything other than staking this year...
look at the eth team and the merge and how many deadlines they blew
https://fortune.com/2021/08/05/ethereum-update-vitalik-buterin-emissions-energy-use/
i mean it's pretty obvious that staking is close, a month here or there means nothing in the longer term, and i think we can expect some sort of announcement next week
but yeah i suspect that you invested in link in 2018 with no investing experience and no real world experience and then have tied your identity to the project and being "smart" enough to see it early
that's not a healthy place to be in. go outside.

>> No.51539039

>>51538659
Schmidt will be there in the flesh, a lot of other big guns. Big Mac gimmick with Serg, dropping price of tickets, etc.

You’d have to think staking gets announced, I can’t imagine they’d have this level of “pomp” only to let everyone down. It’d be more of a no nonsense nose to the grindstone style of conference. Also if you pay attention there was a post that went out before the last conference that basically tipped everyone off that staking wasn’t going to be happening til later this year. Until we see something like that my money’s on a staking announcement at smartcon. Whether that leads to price discovery and higher lows is a different discussion. Frankly I just want staking announced, it’s time.

>> No.51539137

>>51539033
Yes and I always kept all my deadlines for more than a decade.
This is unacceptable.

The network will not be what people hope it to be for a few more years even if staking gets released.

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>>51537778
So close

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>>51539033
Eth and vitalik being a bunch of Pedophile gangly fuck ups doesn't give sergey an excuse to be just as fucking useless and blueballing.

>"s-small Dev pls understand"

All you like, if it wasn't for this fat faggot doing everything in his power to dump and crush any positive movement during the bullrun, then putting out "umm staking this year bros" at the start of ths year I wouldn't have been holding this shit token to the bottom of the ocean on vapour fumes of promises that keep being delayed or broken. The team DOES owe me money and after years of this shit, waiting around no ammount of "in it for the tech" cope is enough to justify the beating this bullshit has done to our psyche.

We are currently holding while the world is falling apart, literal concentration camps are built in Western countries over a psyop and "people prepare to freeze in their homes" and "man arrested for chopping wood for fire" are legitimate headlines in this clown hell hole world we should of had enough funds to check out of well before now.

Shut the fuck up, give me the money you owe me
Cunt

>> No.51539232

>>51535844
>X event is the start of the singularity
Fuck anon, you know how many times we’ve heard this? Dozens of times since 2018

I wish you’re right though. Damn that would be nice

>> No.51539235

>>51538869
>What I cannot accept is getting the silent treatment after someone makes a promise to me and can't deliver.
I think you need to look at a calendar. To say they haven't delivered yet is false. Therefore anything you write is not worth reading cause its clear where you're coming from.

>> No.51539331

>>51539159
>We are currently holding while the world is falling apart
so much fucking this, and anons here act like all of us have the luxury to wait 10 more years waging away or something

>> No.51539387

I don’t care if it pumps at smartcon or in 2025. Because 1. I have RLC which will gigapump by EOY and 2. I’m having sex tonite with a big titty Milf.

>> No.51539453

>>51539387
Nice bro pics?

>> No.51539949

>>51539137
>t. Trust me guys look at all this effort I put into writing walls of text and literally making shit up about failed promises etc
This is the best that a country full of Serbian rape-babies has to offer?
Fucking retard.
/spit

>> No.51539965

>>51539159
>t-the money they owe me
LMAO

>> No.51540084
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>>51539965
I've been holding this shittoken since 2018.

Yes they do owe me money. Specifically Sandro Salsano needs to give me my fucking money that wop greaseball fuck.

>> No.51540122

>>51538703
well at this point you either know or you remain willfully ignorant
i just dont get the low iq fud thats thrown around here, do they really think their are tourist left that are impacted by this

>> No.51540124

>>51540084
>I-I'm a fellow link OG and y-yes they DO owe me money
You're really shit at your "job."

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>>51540124
If I was Bulgarian I would be telling you to sell for eth or some other peice of shit. What I want is staking out and price to go up for once in this cunt of tokens life without some bullshit world event happening, China banning bitcoin, some fucking delay happening, promises of integrations that never materialise, muh start ups like that fat faggot from Oracle promised only to disappear into thin air or God knows what other disappointments that I can't name off the top of my head. I just want the project TO FUCKING MOVE so we aren't stuck in this fucked up limbo while the world around us crumbles and wipes out any gains we make from link in the first place.

I've had enough waiting. Fucking do something. Enough nothing burgers.

>> No.51540241

>>51540084
Holy shit they deleted this Wikipedia page. The only thing left is a photo of him. Rothschild and Putin got name dropped in it if I remember correctly. Just a coincidence I'm sure.

>> No.51540256

>>51540195
If the world does fall apartt, the monopoly money tier fiat currency you would be selling your link for is going to be worth jack shit anyway.
If things get that bad just run towards the sudden sunrise at 2am. Otherwise no, if the elites keep things chugging along then they'll let link moon when they want to and us parasites and opportunists who bought this purely to make it will just have to deal. We are "owed" nothing and you already know this.

>> No.51540299

>>51540195
Sell you fucking idiot.

>> No.51540354

>>51540241
Interesting
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=Sandro+salsano&title=Special:MediaSearch&go=Go&type=page

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>>51540299
Not until I get what I'm owed (atleast 1000 United States monopoly money notes) for emotional damages holding this fucking cube

>> No.51540520

>>51540354
Guys a fucking ghost

>> No.51540547

>>51537877
AI upscaled FFIX remaster

>> No.51540682

I'm all in LINK and bearish. The macro environment is so terrible we're not even getting a pre-event pump. Crypto as a whole has expended all its bullshit narratives especially now that the merge is behind us, there's nothing left to pump the space other than real institutional adoption by tradfi. If Smartcon sees announcements working partnerships and integrations with banks and the like, I would expect LINK to pump through this bear market. What I'm expecting though given the hiding strategy is the same talking points, vague hints about tradfi adoption, and a dump to a new low. At least there would be more time to accumulate.

>> No.51540756

>>51540084
SANDRO SALSANO OWES YOU NIGGERS NOTHING

>> No.51541549

I can say screencap this because they’ll never know it was me, they are announcing Sergey to chairman and Schmidt is CEO. Price will spike with the expectation of a dump once the euphoria wears off, staking delayed to Q1

>> No.51542227

>>51538749
This, things will keep happening. Pandemic, shutdowns, war, inflation, next is mass layoffs, bankruptcies and foreclosures. Link is not allowed to go up until 2025

>> No.51543040

>>51534395
>$12-15
Hyper optimism here. If it can break $10 I'll be impressed.

>> No.51543093

>>51534310
slight pump, then a hard dump
t. deep abyss link marine from beyond the veil

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>>51542227
>LINK is not allowed to go up u til 2025
They can’t contain it any longer
>LINK/USD
>LINK/BTC
>LINK/ETH
>SmartCon
>End of Shemitah Jubilee year
>Jupiter closest point to Earth Sept 24

>> No.51543158

There will be no smartcon pump. Because that would mean something other than suffering.

>> No.51543193

>>51541549
Bullshit. If that does happen though it will be a giant news story and the price will rocket.

>> No.51543259

>>51535844
Checked. If you can dream it, it’s true.

>> No.51543275

>>51538949
I’ve already put into my will for my ledger with all my link in it to be cremated alongside me.

>> No.51543540

>>51543275
>decreasing fixed supply
Bullish

>> No.51543848

>>51539039
I started reading your post… and about halfway thru I started reading from the beginning again while jerking off.

>> No.51543854

>>51535844
checked...
i want to believe...

>> No.51544885

I'm all in Link and am content to wait until the team roll things out in their own time. A few years doing nothing isn't a long time to be one rich from a relatively small investment. Complainers are just demoralisation fudders and should be ignored. These sort of people aren't ready for wealth anyway and will ruin themselves in some way. Quiet contemplation and a fit and healthy lifestyle is how one ought prepare for the life ahead.

>> No.51545028

>>51544885
>A few years doing nothing isn't a long time to be one rich
good luck surviving by "doing nothing" until LINK moves, especially if you are in the West.

>> No.51545040

>>51534310
the bic mac orgy makes me think they must have some good news up their sleeve otherwise it would be awkward af

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>> No.51545069

>>51544885
Well actually a few years is up, five in fact. Now something like a 'decade' is more appropriate.

>> No.51545248

>>51539137
>Yes and I always kept all my deadlines for more than a decade
damn son where can I invest in your token then. make us rich

>> No.51545331

>>51537358
>your link criticism ends where my feelings begin

>> No.51545355

>>51538581
What did he say that was factually wrong though?

>> No.51545410

>>51539235
If you dont understand how disengenuous it was for sergey to hype up all these releases on Jan 1 knowing full well he wouldnt release anything til the end of the year, theres no helping you.

>> No.51545425

>>51540299
Why would he sell the bottom you stupid cocksucker?

>> No.51545434

>>51543193
Just like it rocketed when schmidt became an advisor?

>-2%

>> No.51545440

>>51545331
>>51545355
>>51545410
>>51545425
>>51545434
sers

>> No.51546427

they're not sending their best, folks

>> No.51546741

it's so depressing reading this thread.

years to reach new ATH? I wasted so much time because of link FML

>> No.51546750

>barely if any pump
>massive sell off on the news
happened for eths big event, link will be the same but on a smaller scale

>> No.51547097

>>51545434
Advisor is too vague. CEO will have more people scratching their heads and thinking Chainlink is the next google.

>> No.51547474

>>51543040
if it breaks 8 I'll be impressed

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Is 1200 linkz enough? I literally bought the top from 44-50 dollars and have never been in the green. I need us to hit 9.50 from my mental stability.

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I'm willing to endure the pain until 2025, after that I'll stop buying and just ride till the end with whatever bag I have at that point. i'm in eastern eutope so for me LINK pumping to about 100 USD would be OK and i can just stop wage caging. fuck lambos fuck vacations in bali or whatever fuck getting an expensive gold digger gf i just wanna chill

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>>51546741
>tfw you didn't have a life before Chainlink anyway

>> No.51548924

>>51539159
>>51540084
Couldnt have said it better myself. Where is my money forbidden Salami man?

>> No.51550990

>>51537501
>Unfortunately I am banned from going to Jew York because of their Corona antics.
? They relaxed their vaccine mandate measures.

>> No.51551022

>>51547996
why not keep buying to average down?
10K invested now and you break even at 20

>> No.51551696

>>51541549
why would they do this?

>> No.51551729

>>51547996
Keep buying anon.

> t. bought at 40 cents, and continued buying at $33

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>>51543848
>Elmo