/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>51528289
I have never read the white papers of HBAR and XRP, dont they have nearly limitless token supply?

>>51528289
No it won't be.

leemon scammer my basterds

>>51528881
Technically with HTS yes as 1hbar could equal 1000hts token. However, as this random screenshot that shows nothing implies, hedera won't be used just for "banking" like xrp. Data is also another aspect of tokenization ppl overlook and is something Leemon has mentioned over and over.

Hbar could reach 10k in 15years depending on how widely its used and how crucial it becomes in acting as tge plumbing of said industry as Mance has alluded to.

ETH reached 2k with 1 usecase and 0 scalability. Bitcoin reached 30k with 0 usecases and 0 scalability (yes i know way less coins). So why couldn't hbar reach 2k with actual INDUSTRIAL usecases, interroperability, speed, efficiency, scalability and security?

Hedera is the least flashy coin but the most usable. It took ETH 8 years to make gas fees non existant but ETH still hasnt solved any of the other issues that Hedera has already solved and that Hedera proved works. Polygon is chill as an L2 but by adding more layers to a network you add convolution. Hedera is 1 layer that can do almost ALL.

I believe in the end that simplicity and usability AT SCALE will win out

>>51528289
easily 10k but 8 years? man that's forever away

>>51528289
HBAG cope. Nobody want to buy your bags.

>>51529279
/biz/ is for shilling scans and shitcoins, not real gems. All the non-paneets have known about HBAR forever and are silently accumulating and swinging their stacks up.

>>51528289
>1 HBAR will be worth $10,000 by 2030.
it won't because then that means I'll have made it and this is not possible I'm afraid.

>>51529999
based quads of truth

50,000,000,000 tokens x $10,000 = $500,000,000,000,000
Hbaggies will never accept this

>>51530332
>muh market cap
im no hbar shill, but come on man, you gotta step up your fud game!

>>51530444
Checked, but he’s right tho - the absolute most optimistic case for 2030 is $2000-3000, and that’s assuming a fair bit of inflation so more like $1000 today money

>>51529999
blessed,

also for what it's worth, Leemon himself said the hashgraph algorithm came to him via divine intervention. So from a spiritual viewpoint, Hbar is here for the better of humanity. Invest in that if technicals don't butter your bagels.

>>51530984

imo by 2030 FIAT will made useless other than to exchange. We are entering an age where REAL analog things are being given REAL digital value. This is all imo, but Hedera is by far the best "technically" to make this inevitability a reality.

Unbanked people will now become banked, EVERYONE will be able to communicate FINANCIALLY and GLOBALLY. No more 2-5 days bs, no more going to the bank waiting 45 min in line. (yes maybe 1984) BUT DLTs will be the layer above that circus.

>>51529279
>ETH reached 2k with 1 usecase and 0 scalability. Bitcoin reached 30k with 0 usecases and 0 scalability (yes i know way less coins). So why couldn't hbar reach 2k with actual INDUSTRIAL usecases, interroperability, speed, efficiency, scalability and security?

?

>>51531209
2030 is only 7-8 years from now, I think you’re being wildly optimistic. Even if the whole world was ready for it today, laws and regulations are so slow to adjust that the machine would still not be in motion for a decade.

The dream of tokenized everything will happen, but it will take another generation. Even today there are a sizable portion of society who are stuck in dated filing and data management systems, refusing to digitize. These things take time

If it's so great and going to moon and be used by everyone why has it existed for 3+ years and still not available in Coinbase?
Stupid ape and dog coins are on Coinbase, why not HBAR?

>>51531235
And ETH has ∞ max supply, so what's your point?

>>51528289
Ohh good, some pretty ass hopium I got 70units and I'm gonna hodl till whenever, alongside OGN, Sylo and Azero which I bought with it all at discounted prices. Hit me up when the bulls are back.

sauce listing on mexc tomorrow, saucerswap ayys we rise also $50 EOY is FUD + check em

>>51531935
There's like 53x more hbar than ethereum right now

>>51528289
>only half of the total supply is in circulation
>can't hold above 6 cents
It's over Hsissies....

>>51531106
>Leemon himself said the hashgraph algorithm came to him via divine intervention
source?

>>51531789
Honestly adoption will pick up exponentially as the council members arent mickey mouse start ups. The frameworks they are creating will allow ANYONE to just pick and adapt to what they need. Were in limbo technologically, a smartphone and internet is all you need. Regulations do take time but by setting groundwork early and building up, it should expediate this timeline. People who are stuck in dated filing will be able to skip the "current" process and put everything up on a DLT, once the framework is built which it is being done with TOKO, Avery etc.

>>51533840
I think it was interview with maxwalker on youtube. I watched so many cant remember

https://www.orocash.app
“OROcash is designed for Black families, Black businesses, and Black communities to build wealth.”
Hbros….

>>51528289
I just tokenized my house

Is staking to the LINK node a good idea?

XRP schizo here, came here to say that we believe in you Hbarbarians. WAGMI

>>51535706
The solidarity of bear market /biz/ is really r/wholesome

>>51535658
>LINK

>>51528289

i will tokenize your mother

bloody basterd

do not reedem

did you buy any LINK today?

>>51528289
So one stick of bubble gum will be worth 10,000 dollars by 2030. Thanks for the headsup OP.

>>51531235
Oh yeeeeeaaaa muh supply meme, my favorite. Gains are measured in %. Tell me difference between 50bill and 5mill supply. One token is 6c other 6$. They go 12c and 12$, wow would you look at that you made same 100% gains, soooo different.

>>51537542
But OP is saying HBAR $10000 by 2030, Not 10000c.

>>51528289
I'm busy buying into QANX, Its blockchain is quantum-resistant.
>HBAR isn't quantum resistant so I can't trust it

>>51540135
it clearly is you retard....

https://youtu.be/ukZ4rj272ow?t=1811

>>51540135
this looks like a complete scamcoin but I must admit the mcap and token supply are super bullish, may throw a few grand at it and see what happens.

>>51528289
Hbar won’t be tokenizing everything themselves, there will be a few big players taking chunks of the market share.

>>51537542
The point is that a 50 billion supply at $10k a coin would make Hbar a 500 trillion dollar mcap. Unless they become rulers of earth that valuation is not happening

>>51540287
>https://youtu.be/ukZ4rj272ow?t=1811
Dicks makes you believe it isn't close, even Vitalik was stylishly talking about it recently. QC can hack crypto elliptic curve, soon one with Qubit high enough will be created, is HBAR ready or it will be fucked in the ass
>>51540325
I know QAN, it has been audited by IBM platinum partner (VIR), stop bitching and do research

kek I almost feel sorry for all the hbar, xrp, stellar and every idiot who thought they'd let something sit for years for the world to scoop up for pennies when they are constantly scaling wealth back and by 2030 many won't have shit, I almost feel sorry for them

will be worth $10k and still have no utility whatsoever lmao. any sane person would choose Bit over hbar any day of the week, since its the token that will power the decentralized economy that BitDao is building

it's all unironically over

>>51540506
Stop typing in this thread your brain dead retard monkey nigger, you know nothing about market cap

>>51541344
By 2030 FIAT will be second place to the DLTs that they operate on... i feel sorry for this not buying their tickets out of the matrix

>>51528289
>SNX, ORE, IBAT, IBAT etc.
I'd rather invest in more promising low caps. Long term potentials is largely dependent on the quality of the product released by a project and how applicable they are to adoption rate of the entire blockchain space.

>>51538814
By 2030, what's going to matter is anything that has a considerable input in lowering the entry barrier into the space at the moment.

Hey Mance, where are the dApps? You said there would be thousands of dApps on the chain by now. Why are there zero?

Why does Polygon have more than 37,000 dApps already? Why are you letting Polygon smoke you like that?

>>51528289
>>51529279
Centralized shitcoin plus its scalability has a threshold at some point it just plateaus.

>>51528289
This is the shittiest thing I have ever heard, get a life man, even eth has not reached 5k yet. I would rather invest in P2e and play games and earn a profit, looking for sales of gamestarplus by Steve Harvey at the moment

>>51543852
one of the best chains along with avax, I think gamestarplus is launching on avax only.

>>51544415
I had played games like familyfeud and jeopardy with my foster parents when I was a kid. They both are in jail now.

if you scrolled to the bottom and are wondering ifthis thread is worthwhile: it's not, it's just hbar shills embarrassing themselves again. this is not a real cryptocurrency, it's permissioned trash

>>51530332
Simple math angers and confuses the baggie

HBAR absolutely will break the 10k mark within 10 years. The problem is that by that time 10k won't be enough money to buy a Chipotle burrito.

>>51545169
How do you know full 50bill will be released?

>>51545213
FUCKING KEK genius redirection!!
just kidding, kill yourself faggot

>>51535996
C’mon anon, what’s wrong with trusting Chainlink with our money?

>>51528289
I would rather invest in a quantum resistant blockchain which offers security for our investments.

>>51529279
>ETH 1 usecase
>Bitcoin 0 usecases
You are retarded. So, what's Hedera's usecases? What does it do that say ETH can't do?

>>51528881
Infinite supply is a red flag. Would rather invest in those that actually have a burn mechanism like Xpress for instance. Who loves throwing away capital?

>>51529296
Based, especially when they have no real utilities. Payment solutions are where everyone should be now. Explosion incoming.

the same fucking reason i didnt invest in bitcoin, or eth, or any other fucking one

>>51545213
10 years you say? Tell me why I should wait that long. especially when ones like CryptoXpress are coming with new innovations everyday. Will pass.

>>51545704
What's not wrong with it? Perhaps it should build a payment gateway. That's the future.

>>51529279
Casually brushing off that there are 200x more HBAR tokens than Ethereum tokens. HBAR baggies are the biggest scum of /biz/

>>51543629
Low caps with good upside potential are smart decisions at the moment chad. After much research I narrowed my picks to assets on the Elrond blockchain like ZPAY. RIDE and ITHUEM.

You dumbos
Look into what HTS projects have active developers
Look into their projects tokenomics and roadmaps
HTS will moon much sooner than hbar

The amt of low IQ hindus and pajeets replying in this thread with retard coins and rebuttles... h1bs are a fukin cancer to society

The PoC swirlds just released to get Helium looked interesting, moreso the fact that everything can be done on chain rather than having to go through 3rd parties (diminishing networks security). The guy said they can route through multiple oracles, there are other oracles other than link??

>>51548781
high IQ (105) hindu here, i WILL make it off leemon's ingenuity and you won't do shit about it whiteboi

>>51546276
Your loss, moron. By the time crypto goes mainstream and you're about to die poor, you'll realize why it's a big mistake. There is literally no reason not to invest with wallet creation made super easy already by identity protocols such as ORE network.

>>51546262
Payment solutions might explode of course, due to the advantage of instant cross-border payments but that's largely dependent on how easy authorization of identities is for users that will be exploring the option

>>51544415
Bullish on AVAX

>>51543641
I guess wallet creation experience, with decentralized identities maintained, is the most important element in lowering the entry barrier

>>51541729
>People are just going to start buying Hbar at $10k a token, because…THEY JUST ARE OKAY! You don’t understand mcap!

Fkn retard

>>51546246
I saw they're working with milestoneBased are working together for more roadmap transparency and new level of DAO governance