/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>51524161
My ENS collection is going to retire me. Fucking crazy that a couple of months ago I bought my first address on secondary and now I look at my v collection and I’m like “this is literally enough to retire from in a few years time”
ENS has been an absolute gift this bear market, not that it’s had a bear market.

The bald man whale now dubbed "golden bezos", pic related is what we know so far. Not a single name he holds is listed.

vitalik just cant stop tweeting about ENS
matt higgins can stop buying digits

bezos is slurping every dip imaginable, becoming the foundation of all ens floors

grats to all the single emojis chads, i faded them since nov and now im eating shit.

>>51524216
I've essentially rotated everything I held in coins into ENS over the last 9 months. It's just dumb bagholding them through the bear market when I can make profits in ENS and then use some of it to buy back into coins at the bottom. If ENS can do well in a bear market then the bull market will be insane, I truly believe we have seen nothing yet. A couple of months ago the 10k club didn't even exist lmao.
>>51524364
>vitalik
I love this little nigga like you wouldn't believe. Makes sense for him to be so involved in ENS though.
>grats to all the single emojis chads, i faded them since nov and now im eating shit.
Same here but I still got some good names so I'm not complaining. Happy for my ethmojibros.
>>51524247
Now that I think about it, how scarce these assets are is batshit insane. A single whale came in over the last 2 days and essentially started an entire bullrun literally raising the floor of base single emojis from 4 to 17 ETH. There's only 44 of those left that are listed.

Guys what’s the next play

Please help

man i really hope .eth domains are the winner, cause anybody could come along and invent a .anything domain that people desire more and your investment is worthless.

reminder your .eth domains are now controlled by the us government.

have a nice day

>>51525772
negative numbers, unironically

dont tell anyone tho, im still accumulating

all the other number derivs are hot garbage, but negative numbers inevitable success will drag some of them along too $ and _

i too thought it was fucking retarded, thought it was flags and foreign digits all over again. but its too clean and the market has already decided they're the best deriv

>>51525772
Digits, clean words, desirable usernames, all the usual stuff is still good and people who're always looking for the next play usually end up getting burned desu. But alternatively: bulk lowball offers on two word domains (currently undervalued) and names that don't really have a category. Stalking wallets to see who's desperate for liquidity, if you still have money left on the sidelines you're pretty well positioned to take advantage of people who've overexposed themselves. Mid-sized corporations that most people have never heard about but could be interested in their .eth in the future are still up for registration, it's a risky hold though. Almost every day I still see good profitable deals being made even around the 2 ETH range so /biz/ shouldn't be priced out yet, it's only a matter of being bold and taking the time to look.

>>51526011
great advice fren

can you give some examples of twoword domains you think are good? i havent even considered it

>>51525772
you gotta play the flute

>>51526093
Off the top of my head, something like healthinsurance.eth, creditcard(s).eth, carinsurance.eth, even blockchain.eth would be absolute top-tier examples, you probably won't be the only one bidding on those. Then there's also things like mywebsite.eth, so names that start with "my" or "i" can have some desirability if they make sense. Homeloan(s).eth, searchengine.eth, cryptocustody.eth, etc.

>>51524161
unironically, can y'all think of a domain name funnier than this?

I’m collecting low 6digits.

011014.eth
011015.eth
033007.eth
064231.eth
073007.eth
074007.eth
087007.eth

/ensdegens on tg

>>51524247
Quick someone hit up golden bezos i have an ens to sell

wehrmacht.eth
goebbels.eth
heinrichhimmler.eth
dirlewanger.eth

>>51526492
its funny, but not sure if its $650/yr funny

have to be extremely careful with 3chars, you can mint 130x degen 5chars for same price

i got the us israel flag 2 emoji and mogger.eth. value?

>tfw when holding
777.eth
360.eth
015.eth
420.eth

how much are these worth bizbros?

>>51525772
double flag ethmojis trust me

would religious fanatic billionaires pay huge for religious ethmoji triples?

>>51527185
i dont think any billionaires are retarded enough to be religious fanatics

who owns nigger.eth

>>51527141
Shitty LARP anon. You can do better than this.
>>51526922
>mogger.eth
Maybe 0.05-0.2 ETH
>>51527185
Perhaps
>>51527281
Blockchain suggests pic related owns it, although he transferred it to a seperate wallet

>>51526638
The actual numbers or keycap emojis?

>>51527336
*separate wallet

>>51527261
well, of course they’re not. But they say they are because it’s a good public image.

>>51527336
if only you knew how comfy things really are

>>51527386
Post proofs that you own any of those digits

>>51526866
you’re probably right, maybe I fucked up on that account. At the time it seemed like the best use of 3 characters imaginable so I had to send it.

>>51527808
just kidding but i hold these on a layer 0 which makes them even more valueable than .eth domains. pro-tip: i can receive bitcoins on these domains

Will i be able to sell these?

ENS is centralized bullshit, just like eth. Once the normies figure out that POS was implemented only to prevent the premine whales from sharing the spoils with miners, It will become clear that the volume is fake along with everything else about this bullshit chain that can never scale to meet ambitions. It can only add more layers of bullshit to itself like the fucking monster in akira.

I have a double digit number of Singles, not saying exactly how many because that would dox me.

But it's between 10-20.

I am so fucking bullish on these stupid little emojis you have no idea. These are going to make the 999 Club look like wagies.

EASILY this collection will pass into triple digit ETH floors by February at MOST. I expect it will be before EOY.

I have been in this space for so fucking long, and I'm embarrassed that I haven't made it yet. This is the most certain I've ever been that I'm going to make it now.

Thank god for ethmojis. Thank god that I listened to the early threads on this shit. Holy fuck please let me quit my shitty career. PLEASE

>>51528806
Based, I also hold rare .icp domains

>>51530450
It doesn't matter if you are correct or not, the market doesn't care about your autistic opinion, millions of normies are putting their life savings into meme coins because of some influencer tweets or cute looking logos. Don't end up as a broke and miserable high IQ hobo. Be the kind of guy that sells shovels during a gold rush or clown costumes in a clown world and you will be able to create a far better future for yourself and your family.

>>51531308
unfathomably based.

>>51531415
nigger I've held eth since 2016. I have ens domains with the names of major manufacturers that I bought during the first auction. What I'm telling you is that it's bullshit and if you don't pay the yearly ENS subscription fee to some chink in singapore or if they just decide that your domain is too valuable for you they can simply take it and give to some other kike/chink pedo. look it up. Ethereum is fucking bullshit.

>>51532299
https://docs.ens.domains/v/governance/the-ens-foundation.. Here's your fucking centralized "decentralization". All a major corporation has to do is file an Intellectual Property lawsuit against this Cayman Islands (((Foundation))) and your McDonalds.eth domain goes to zero in the blink of an eye. Fucking dipshit plebs.

thebleatinginvestor.eth

I'll sell it for $1000

BAAAAA!!!

>>51528444

the most important factor is exposure. it's basically impossible to sell a domain that isn't in an ens.vision category

you can spend all day every day shilling on twitter like a jeet, and you might get a sale within a year if you list it for like $1000

>>51532299
Every business on this planet has a risk/reward ratio. How much risk are you willing to take to escape the WEF globohomo dystopia? What would you risk to defend your freedom? Would you exchange a barrel of bullshit for a comfy cabin in the woods?

I got a triple face emoji address. It is in the top 100 most used emojis. What do you think it will be worth bros?

what is the best ENS name I can buy for 6.9 ETH?

Reminder: no corporations own emojis. Any dumb domain squatting shit only applies to legitimate trade marks/trade names of businesses or maybe famous people's names.

>>51532732
fair point, if only there was a funniest shit ever category. I did have it listed a while back but the listing vanished for some reason.

Still reckon it’s the funniest play on .eth and am yet to see someone prove me wrong

>>51533606
im.eth

i really don’t wanna renew lmao

smi.eth

looks like smith, the most common last name in America

>>51530450
>>51532299
>>51532537
This is bullshit FUD. Anyone can look this up and if you know how smart contracts work you can verify it yourself; they hard-locked control over owned domains quite a while ago it's literally technically impossible for anyone to forcefully transfer your domain like with traditional domains.
>Sue a nonprofit on the cayman islands because it contributes towards a DAO that regulates rules for an app on a decentralised blockchain that holds words that could maybe infringe on IP rights which the organisation can do nothing about anyway
kek

>muh eth decentralization
Who collects the rent on an annual basis for your ENS domain? What happens if you don't pay the rent? What happens when the government censors your eth domain? You're completely missing the point of my argument anon.

>>51537116
eth domains are uncensorable

gonna get real interesting when people start uploading pizza onto them

you can scream all you want but at the end of the day its about making money. if you could go back in time and register 20 3digit domains, you would do so guaranteed

instead you like to fud because you're jealous. tale as old as time

>>51537116
>Who collects the rent on an annual basis for your ENS domain?
The DAO.
>What happens if you don't pay the rent?
Yes, you lose ownership. Granting permanent ownership is terrible for adoption, imagine the problems that squatting causes right now amplified by a gorillion. Obviously ongoing development, infrastructure, gas fees will require some amount of funding too.
>What happens when the government censors your eth domain?
How are they gonna censor the domain? Track down every node operator in the world and somehow force them to? Be more precise on what attack vector you think is problematic.
>You're completely missing the point of my argument anon.
I think you're arguing that because you could summarize the flow of power/money into a system that is called a "DAO" it means it's ultimately still centralised, but that is just reframing and using semantics to your advantage. You're ignoring all the component parts of a DAO and what it actually means to pose that purely because the word "DAO" is singular it must mean centralisation. Of course there is still another point to be made that ultimately it's still being governed/validated by someone, but do you have a better alternative to that?

>>51538069
>DAO
KEK. Yeah, cause every example of those have worked very well.
Sushi, OHM, w/e that SOL dapp was that liquidated a whale, list can go on of how much of a joke governance and DAOs really are and how they are used to make midtwits think they have legitimate utilization for vaporware.
>Yes, you lose ownership.
Then why do I still have my ens .eth 6 months after my 1 year subscription.

I swear, the market is the best way to separate retards from their cash

>>51524247
This guy is such an alpha chad. He is going to be worth billions

>>51538154
Not all DAOs are the same desu, it depends on how the incentives and permissions are structured. What's your alternative though? You can always find ways to criticize things and surely DAOs even as a concept aren't perfect, but actually coming up with solutions is the hardest part. Currently ENS is the best at what it's supposed to do nevertheless.
>Then why do I still have my ens .eth 6 months after my 1 year subscription.
How am I supposed to know if that's true? Maybe you got the dates wrong, you're still in the 3 months grace period, or someone else extended them for you. Surely as an anon on the internet you wouldn't try to lie about something like that would you? If you're too dumb to figure it out then post your ENS here and I will tell you why.

>>51537553
>>51532299

>>51538154
>Then why do I still have my ens .eth 6 months after my 1 year subscription.
The NFT is not actually burned and re-minted until someone else re-registers the name. When a name expires, it cannot be sold/transferred, the ownerOf method immediately reverts. The name will technically still resolve to whatever records it did before it expired, up until the point at which someone re-registers it.

>>51538508
>What's your alternative though?
Anything but the midtwit trap known as a DAO or governance token.
I'm sure our 100+ year regulated "free" market has already created better alternatives that have been tested and proved true. Do I really need to tell you what those are?
>>51538727
Now, that makes sense. I sent it to my cold wallet, from my mint address and it still sitting in it. Honestly, don't care enough to renew.

>>51538957
indeed
The DAO's of ethereum don't even follow their own rules and never have. https://www.gemini.com/cryptopedia/the-dao-hack-makerdao
And I know Bitcoin has been forked and fucked by blockstream in case we're reverting to whataboutism now. It doesn't matter anyway. If you want to rent your access from infura, and pay rent for your corner of google's web3 by giving up everything from your IP to your birthday, then by all means it's probably not that retarded to have a suicide stash of ens domains. Just don't be surprised when they disappear. Or when you get hacked because you trusted The DAO.

Will I make it with around 15 middle of the road singles?

>>51538957
>Do I really need to tell you what those are?
Yes, tell me what the better alternatives are and then go back to r/buttcoin where you belong.
>>51539117
>The DAO from 2016
>Hard fork
Now we're already balls deep into a classic crypto discussion. Yes obviously being invested in ENS presupposes the belief that Ethereum itself won't cataclysmically collapse, thanks for pointing that out, I almost forgot.
>le infura
You realise everyone active in the ether community already knows about these issues and there are tens of thousands of discussions you could have about this anywhere else with people actively working to fix these problems but instead you come into a thread on a taiwanese grain counting forum about one specific dapp built on ethereum to point it out for the millionth time like some sort of drone. I simply choose to speculate that ultimately eth is capable of taking care of these issues, and if not then fine with me too.
>i-it's risky!
Everybody with at least two (2) functioning brain cells already knows that.

>>51533606
adamfriedland.eth

>>51524161
>ETH
kek, lol, lmao even

>>51539227
Depends on how long you're willing to hold. Either way you probably won't be complaining about the gains.

I'm open to offers on gamergirlbathwater.eth on opensea. I tried selling it for 10 ETH last year lmao

>>51536672
Would it be possible for them to set the renewal fee for a domain to an extremely high amount of ETH to prevent it from being renewed?

>>51540011
This modest little Andalusian pube braiding forum is the main shill vector for every piece of shit out there but occasionally some pearls are cast before swine. I lurk for the pearls. And I'm not shilling shit, you are. You wanna take the risk on ENS domains thats fine, I have too. But don't presuppose that you own them, you are renting them under a contract that is full of loopholes and a DAO that isn't gonna protect your ENS investment anymore than the FDIC will. I too once naively thought eth was a proponent of free markets and financial decentralization. But it's exponentially more captured and controlled by consensys than buttcoin is by blockstream just by virtue of it's design and implementation. And that is entirely intentional.

>>51542572
Yes, that is possible, if the DAO voted on it. Only the DAO has the power to update the registrar controller that determines renewal fees.

However, it's impossible for that to happen "overnight" or anything. A proposal would be made to the community, it would be argued back and forth for weeks/months, refined, and then put to a DAO-wide vote.

The on-chain governance vote itself is 7 days. If the vote passes, then there is an additional 2 days of delay imposed by the timelock before the code is actually executed. And that is all hard-coded into the governor contracts and cannot be changed by anybody, including the DAO.

So say that a hypothetical proposal of "increase renewal fees to $1000000/year" was proposed, gained support, and passed on-chain. You would have plenty of time, probably months, to extend your domains out to however long you wish (100+ years if you wanted) before any new registrar code could ever go into effect.

>>51542572
No, definitely not on any specific names. I'm not sure if it's hard-locked in the contract but even if it was technically possible with a DAO vote, the entire system would break down as soon as people heard that they censored a domain, it wouldn't make any sense to do that.

Even a general modification to renewal fees, although realistic and entirely possible, is surprisingly unlikely if you've followed the recent discussions brought up by vitalik who talked about a more complex system in which you'd have to pay more based on what the biggest bid on your domain is. This caused a notable backlash, showing that most want to keep it how it is. I think there could still be a general raise in the future since the squatting is already pretty intense. Anyway they can't target or single out anything specific. Pic related.

>>51540011
>Yes, tell me what the better alternatives
A board of directors or owner of said asset/service. Not some fat fuckin incel that shits into a sock and thinks his opinion matters cause he holds a token. Can't believe this actually has to be typed out to you. Here is your reminder to not forget to breath, retard.
I'm not a bitcoin maxi either, just a realist. Actually I have much respect for ETH, it made me lotta money last few years.
>>51539117
I got the ENS airdrop. Sold immediately, no regrets. Coulda gotten in 3-4 digit club, had a few crypto friends get in and make bank. The best part about DAO is when they hold another coin's governance token or shitty defi token and that gets hacked, instead of just hoarding a stablecoin. Leaving whatever % of holding now null. All because a buncha retarded bag holders wanted to pump that (governance) token w/a DAO, e.g Cream hack and it's effects on the ecosystem.

>>51542956
>A board of directors or owner of said asset/service.
Amazing anon, so basically just a traditional regulated corporation selling a TLD of which there already exist hundreds. Literally no point in doing all this crypto stuff if you're gonna immediately hand over control then you absolute fucktard, the value proposal is decentralisation and censorship-resistance, that's why something like a DAO is needed and not another globohomo compliant board of directors. Could've at least done me the courtesy of watching some Blockchain 101 videos on youtube before you started shitting out this utter disgrace of an opinion.

>>51542769
>you are renting them under a contract that is full of loopholes
If you know there are loopholes, why haven't you exploited them or claimed a bug bounty yet? Even if that's just hypothetically, what can you realistically expect from any given thing, that it starts out perfect and then just stagnates there for eternity? "There might be loopholes/imperfections" could be said about anything.
>a DAO that isn't gonna protect your ENS investment anymore than the FDIC will
What's your point? Not like anyone seriously thinks the DAO will ensure profitability or give refunds.
>I too once naively thought eth was a proponent of free markets and financial decentralization. But it's exponentially more captured and controlled by consensys
Indeed problematic but again nothing new, there are always gonna be entities trying to gain as much control as possible over these systems. These are free stress tests on how resilient the system is against being hijacked by centralised forces, it will have to prevail and adapt, not run away and try again only to eventually encounter the same problem.

>>51543217
Once I saw the image I honestly don't care what you have to say and didn't read anymore of your shit.

Stay mad brokie.

>>51543453
You literally think blockchains having a boss and board of directors is not only a viable and realistic idea, but also better than a DAO.

Excellent reminder for everyone that these are the "people" who are fuding your bags.

Rare singles will legit see 1000 eth sales. Its probably the only way ever to own a single character domain. This reason alone is enough to make these super rare collectables. Soon there is going to be 10 million or 100 million or 5 billion domains and only a bit over 1000 of those are are singles. You should not be paperhanding your singles if you managed to get any.

>>51543396
>why haven't you exploited them or claimed a bug bounty yet?
ERC-20 tokens are minted and distributed arbitrarily, based on whatever unicorn fart faggot bullshit the issuer wants to spew out. I don't want to blow any minds here, but there is no way to prove that multiple different addresses/balances/votes don't all belong to the same person. The entire strategy of this globohomo endorsed scam seems to be gaslighting everyone to believe one thing while changing/ignoring the rules whenever necessary to maintain the pre-ordained hegemony.

3digits will have 1000e floor in 3-5 years
prepare accordingly

>>51524161
Can't afford regular trip emoji's but I've been eyeing things like .eth, .eth, or .eth. What's the consensus on these? Are they valuable or a waste of money?

>>51545029
i would say the second one looks promising but I don't like the other two.

>>51545029
Firefox on Windows can't decipher anything you've put there - not even a placeholder. It just says ".eth, .eth, or .eth." Something to consider.

I own 1 triple face emoji, never selling.

>>51545067
>>51545090
>>51545029
These

registered capeshit.eth the other day. I was so surprised it was available considering the retarded shit people are registering.

>>51545155
I have a few similar types of symbols anon. decent choice.

>>51545090
4chan has never allowed emojis

>>51542354
>Depends on how long you're willing to hold
I'm willing to hold for years but I strongly, strongly prefer to make it within the next 6 months or so. I feel like a 100 ETH Singles floor is enough for me to make it, so I'm counting down the months until that occurs.

>>51543638
I promise not to paperhand but I just want this to happen soon. These were still obscure as recently as last week, and the markets really only began over this past weekend.

I just want my 100 ETH floor soon so I can have the feeling of "fuck you" money for my unnecessarily stressful career.

>>51542769
>>51544627
I understand becoming jaded when money skelly spent years preaching about muh decentralization and muh free markets, only to literally start talking about bug protein and how the WEF isn't worthy of any conspiracy theories.

But you problem isn't so much with Ethereum or smart contracts, it's with human nature. Great apes are gonna hierarchy. It's just in our nature, and even a "promise" of a decentralized future is just that -- a promise. Vitalik and Lubin and Brian Armstrong and all these other people are going to take it over. There IS a "pre-ordained" hierarchy, and this is going to be the way the world works over the next 20 years at least, until something shinier and techier and even more convincing comes along.

Until then, 99.99999% of people are what they've always been -- swine -- and we found a pearl. I'm intent on making a comfy life for my pigself on this pearl. What else is there to do?