/biz/ - Business & Finance

Unbothered.
Moisturized.
Happy.
In My Lane.
Focused.
Flourishing.

>futures
>pasts
>presents

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>51456269
Cramer's gonna tell us to buy the FDX dip, isn't he?

FDX

>>51456274
Daily reminder that finance and economics are pseudoscientific make believe garbage, capitalism is inherently unstable, exploitative and unsustainable with a built in expiration date. All finance assets like money,crypto,debt,bonds etc are purely parasitic in nature and serve no purpose nor have any inherent value. Ever escalating recessions, poverty,wealth inequality, monopolies, disease, pollution, slavery, conflict and wars are fundamental, necessary and intended functions of it, NOT glitches, and every single financier or crypto dudebro is a literal parasite.

Your parasitic stock markets and empires will crumble you putrid cancerous financier parasites

>>51456328
Probably unless it’s prerecorded earlier and he’s going to tell people to BUY BUY BUY!!!!

>>51456342
Hate the game not the player

kek baggies

How do you quit a job after you accepted the offer without burning bridges?

>>51456342
>capitalism will expire but communism will change human nature any day now

>spy wont go below 360! there's nothing that will cause it to do that
I would literally be printing money, betting against that statement of yours, retard. you better be lucky im a lazy perma bull that has sat idly by and letting all of his money slowly bleed out

I've never had sex

>>51456342
i ain't reading your faggot blog entry homo

>>51456342
no gains?
>t. mad he's been red all year
You wouldn't talk that nonsense if you knew how to make steady contango gains

>>51456342
Shut the fuck up.

>>51456384
pumps the hardest
dumps the least

>>51456391
Sex is just kind of average because they took my foreskin and I will never forgive for the scars they left on my penis.

>>51456391
based

my TQQQ hundreds of shares will MAKE IT in the future

>>51456342
Nah, but you can move to Cuba or north korea

Why do I keep losing money

>>51456342
I too love r/politics! Updoot! XD

>>51456391
You are in the right general then.

If the last number of my post is 1 thru 9 oil is blood green tomorrow

>>51456434
because we're in a bear market
even the 'best' fund managers are losing money
everyone is a genius in a bull market

>>51456459
I’m seeing a 0

>>51456459
Cope.

>>51456366
Why not both i dont understand

So, apparently, not only is student debt getting cancelled, but the gubmint is actually going to REFUND any loan payments anyone made since covid dropped. Cancelling debt wouldn't be that bad, inflation-wise, but with refunds, do you guys have any fucking idea how much spare cash America's most retarded dipshits are about to have? The CPI print 2 months from now is going to be fucking 15% YoY. SPY is going to motherfucking zero, folks, this is a mathematically inevitable fact. Jesus christ this country is a shit heap.

>>51456478
you realise most here are not "financiers" but just people trying to escape wagie hell and get by, right? your statements are fucking retarded

Anyone else looking at clothing industry cheapies? It seems like the market is fearful of China, so the stocks are plummeting. Do you anons know any companies that aren't dealing with China?

>>51456385
Burning bridges is a myth. I left my old job about 2 years ago and they called me last month asking what it would take to get me back. I told them my current pay (35k more than they used to pay me) and said if they matched it I would come back. They said they'd get back to me lol. Just give 2 weeks notice and leave things in as good condition as you can working hard until your last day. They'd dump you in a heartbeat if it made financial sense.

What does red afterhours trading in SPY mean? Every other day that it shits the bed it's been green after hours

>>51456500
Fedex just guaranteed a massive dump tomorrow ontop of quad

>>51456342
I actually agree with this, but it's a necessary sacrifice for the species to progress technologically. Look at how much innovation we get from a couple centuries of capitalism. Yeah it's gonna collapse, and 90% of the population will fucking die, but we're going to be on our way to being an interstellar species after that. Everything works in cycles. A system doesn't have to be perfect forever, it just has to serve its purpose while it lasts.

>>51456500
Capitulation soon

>>51456459
Blood isn't green what are you Ganondorf

>>51456385
I barely talked to any of my old coworkers. If you don't form any bridges you can't burn any of them down.

/cashgang/ right now

>>51456500
After hours and futures mean absolutely nothing. I'm not kidding. I tallied this shit in a spreadsheet for 2022 so far, and the correlation coefficient between futures and the ultimate intraday direction of the market is literally zero. No correlation whatsoever.

>>51456467
>>51456473
Fuck you!!!! If oil isn't green tomorrow I'm going to kill myself and I won't be live streaming it!!!

>>51456555 (cheeecked)
Get you some short term treasuries for a much more erect penor.

>>51456487
Yes, but if what you're saying is true, GME will moon back to $100.

>>51456487
Wait 10,000 in stimmy to 8 million people who are most likely to spend it asap in the real economy will hurt tightening efforts?

>>51456592
Listen don’t be selfish live stream it

>>51456566
nice try, satan

>>51456599
Is this what your average female broker looks like?

>>51456629
>female brokers
>clothing

>>51456385
just call the guy/boss who offered you and tell him you have recieved a better offer elsewhere(even if you havent). if they call your bluff say they offered 20k more than what you accepted.

I sent an email to a guy who offered my a job and i was expected to start 2 days before i said fuck that and applied elsewhere. he was super pissed when he called my the day i was supposed to start and i told him i had a better offer(he didnt read his emails when i mentioned that i sent one)

either way, the nigger who gave you the offer is going to be pissed.

>>51456647
The messy clothes at the end of a long work day only make me more erect. Speaking of which, when will be the time to buy MSFT leaps? I got a bunch of money in my 401K I need to allocate to something.

>>51456619
Tabulate it yourself if you don't believe me. Maybe futures work better in bull markets or something, but for the past 9 months, they have been worthless. I can only assume futures traders all have down's syndrome.

>>51456647
Th-th-they fill orders naked? H-hot

>>51456390
>you're lucky I'm a coward
you and every other guy predicting this

>>51456678
Allocate it to dollars. /cashgang/ is a legitimate position.

>>51456487
Where is this stated? I’ll take a $10k refund for paying my loans down during Rona. Buy more puts

>>51456743
I literally dont have the money to put into these stocks since I'm in a catch 22 situation otherwise I would be as green as any anyone else here with a brain.

>>51456385
the problem is that you're showing yourself as unreliable - they still want your skills but there isnt a practical way to hire you in the future because youre likely to bail again
honestly I dont think you have good odds to avoid this perception, best case is to make up some personal emergency that is unlikely to repeat ("my dog ate my homework and I have to urgently leave the country for a year to acquire more writing paper")

>>51456498
i believe that he is asking about quitting before he's even started the job, similar to a company revoking an offer but from the employee side

>>51456767
>I put myself in a position were I wouldn't be able to take advantage of this situation
sounds like a stupid man to me

>Jerome's intern clearing a safe passage for his boss after the final rate hike

>>51456274
Today I made 40 bucks. Had I not sold spxs so early and I'd have made an extra 200 fml
It was so obvious that it was going to be a -1% day

>>51456629
only thotdelity brokers

>>51456487
1 last mega pump?

>>51456778
But yeah go ahead and believe that spy wont go under 360 and see where that gets you.

>On CNBC, Ye, formly known as Kanye West, discussed leaving Gap, $GPS.

>He said: "I'm not going to argue with people that are broker than me about money."

This man is a complete sigma male and no one can cope with his Asperger's.

>>51456434
why would you expect to gain money?

>>51456808
Damn Kanye BTFO gap kwab

>>51456757
https://studentaid.gov/debt-relief-announcement/one-time-cancellation
Down in the FAQ, under "Am I eligible to receive a refund ..."

>>51456783
Rumor has it they show this clip to new hires at the New York Fed as a perfect example of an open market operation.

>>51456487

>>51456801
>1 last mega pump?

Kek no - treasury yields are going to skyrocket = shares down.

>>51456487
enough inflation and the market will stop giving a shit about the fed and go neon green like in venezuela

>futures

Alright Bobos, I'll stop buying for a very long while, good game
things are really to get rougher it seems

mumu bros I....

>>51456840
Hahahaha

>not buying SQQQ
ngmi

>>51456342
As opposed to what other time in human history?
This is the only point in history that lets you cry about 'muh broke and no gf bros omfg, any other time you'd be dead by a power chad who's busy accumulating wealth and resources.
This is the only time in history you actually have to rise up, and you're wasting it convincing rich people to start hating money.

>>51456848
futures are going limit down are you are laughing, bad kot!

It wont even be legal to beat small caps anymore tomorrow

I should not have sold my puts before close
god damn it

>>51456867
dem lil niggas already ded bro

Ok that's it. I'm out of here. I'm going to start a GoFundMe. I will get my $10k. And all who donate will get a permanent Jewish blessing which will guarantee stock market gains until their passing. Every who doesn't will never make money in this market again.

>>51456542
t. non-v1.0 OoT playing virgin

>>51456882
They are just a good bottom bitch who loves a choking like my wife nihume

its literally impossible for spy to go lower than 360

>>51456840

>>51456861
The circuit breaker nights of Covid, please return. Bobros are ready

>>51456904
I knew I should have bailed when that cunt P*losi did

Just cut my GUSH loose for small loss. But STILL holding the sqqq. Red day, red night, = red day tomorrow.
Anyone know what max pain for options on spy is tomorrow?

>>51456884
Are you not a Jew who attempted to profit off Allah's blessing, oil? What made you think such an offensive gesture would go well?

If digits, quad witching heems us all....

>>51456317

I wish female brokers were real

>>51456827
Kanye has aggressive autism. I think he's diagnosed bipolar disorder but also has some other issues.
I'm a zoomer and my zoomer friends in college in 2016, at the peak of the Trump/Clinton election, went to a Kanye concert in Los Angeles.

Kanye has a super nice set with crazy production (synths, background vocalists, pyrotechnics, digital set, holograms, the whole 9 yards). After like 30 minutes of performing a normal set with his music, he starts breaking down into a batshit insane rant about how he's voting for Trump and really respects Trump and he's refusing to sing anymore of his music, he's just dived into a diatribe about how he loves Trump. He is visibly sweating and crying and panting as he talks about his cocklust for Trump, then his manager/bodyguards and literally yank him off stage.

Some voice comes on and announces the concert is cancelled and everyone will be refunded.

It came out later that Kanye was hospitalized by Kim Karadashian lmao, he had a full manic episode on stage. My friends and everyone who traveled to see Kanye were pissed of course.

Bottom line is that Kanye is egregiously mentally ill and its not for attention. He is seriously aspergers, with minimal self awareness. Guaranteeing Kim Kardashian fucked other men every night because no normal would be able to stand a man so retarded

>>51456931

>>51456922
Yeah I did and this is bullshit
>no deal with Iran
>no deal with Saudi Arabia
>SPR is empty
>Biden: durr hurr we'll refill the reserves when oil hits $80
>oil magically dumps to 0 for literally no reason whatsoever
I'm fucking tired of these fucking tricks.

Why are futures so bad already.
Why did I sell spxs
It's costing me a lot of money already. We're dumping hard again tomorrow aren't we

official futures theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gxxc5kTmovM

what now?

>>51456930
My apartment doesnt allow dogs
Cat time?

What the actual fuck is going on

>>51456963
Fedex literally pulled their guidance because stuff is getting so bad which translates to broad econ weakness. We getting merked hard tomorrow bro

>>51456994
Maybe people are preparing for recession, higher for longer, not fighting the fed, and outside real risks of tw military action by china

>>51456994
>>51456965

what are you freaking out about

>>51456998
50 bp 10yr climb!?

>>51456960
>no deal with Iran
>no deal with Saudi Arabia
Very true, yes.

>SPR is empty
Ah, the Jew has himself been Jewed. The "non-zero Y axis" is one of the oldest semite deceptions. Look at an actual graph of the levels.

>Biden: durr hurr we'll refill the reserves when oil hits $80
Note that they walked this back. OPEC will now be the one establishing the floor. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-US-Does-Not-Plan-To-Refill-Its-SPR-With-Sub-80-Oil.html

>oil magically dumps to 0 for literally no reason whatsoever
The crash has a reason. It is the Jews!

>>51457010
EVERTHING BRO

HOLY FUCK FEDEX GUIDANCE LMAO
>FedEx guidance: "real nice stock market yous got here, would be a shame if something happened to it"

>>51456944
she was so fine bros, but the tribe got her. now shes sucking off the WEF for loose change

>>51457010
Look at after hours

>>51456904
>Bobros are ready
not me im transferring everything I have in preparation for the big powell to drop his painful interest hike and it wont be ready until monday

>>51457025
she got JEWED.com bro, tale as old as time itself

/VX looks highly unimpressed by all this selling rn. Strange

>>51456830
>If you didn't receive a Pell Grant, you can receive up to $10,000 in debt relief.
so wait if I never had to take out a loan I can still get the 10k?

>>51456940
uh that rant Kanye did was based as fuck. it wasn't even about trump, it was about the music industry selling out.

>>51456944
Shopped

>>51456994
doomp to price in the gradual climb going into midterms

oh good, we have broken below 3900. I was worried there for while

>>51457041
Nah, Pell Grants just signify you were an ultrapoorfag when getting into college. They were/are free cash independent of whatever loans you took out.

>>51457047
"Hey radio, fuck you! Radio, fuck you! Y'all don't want to lose again. A lot of people here tonight felt like they lost. You know why? Because y’all been lied to. Google lied to you. Facebook lied to you. Radio lied to you. Radio, fuck you! I know it’s a lot of real niggas working at radio, real people, real programming directors with wives and kids that love music, that can’t play what they want to play because they’ve been paid to play that bullshit over and over and over. And when I say that bullshit, what I'm saying is we love Drake, Drake is great. He’s a great artist. But Frank Ocean is great, too. But you know who the greatest of all of us? Who do y’all think? [Crowd shouts “Kanye” and other names] Nope. Kid motherfucking Cudi. Radio, fuck you! Oh yeah, I’m on my Trump shit tonight. Radio, fuck you. Yeah, I’m taking his lead. I’mma just say how I say, be ‘Ye, and win. I’mma take his lead. Radio, fuck you! Radio, fuck you! Wait a second. Eh, is it, “Radio, fuck you? That’s what you’re saying?” Exactly.

Not fuck the people that work at radio because these is real people that gotta feed they kids and they’re not being allowed to play that real shit because they think that in order to feed they kids they gotta play the same shit over and over and over. I was raised by KRS-1, I was raised by Tribe Called Quest, I was raised by DMX. The last real nigga alive? Naw, nigga! We real niggas alive, we alive tonight, bruh! We alive tonight, bruh! Virgil Abloh is alive tonight, bro. A$AP Nast is alive tonight, bro. [A$AP] Bari is alive tonight, bro. Ian Connor is alive tonight, bro. [A$AP] Rocky alive tonight, bro. Aye, y’all love my show. When I say these names, y’all better scream for me. I don’t give a fuck if you know the names or not, go ahead, Google them. They will give you a little bit of factual information. They will give you that.

>>51457021
I actually feel a little better now thanks anon. I'll tell my rabbi about you. You are now anointed as an /smg/ shabbos goy. Congratulations. You will be spared in the great reset.

>>51456919
Only me buying spx puts could stop Hank

>>51457040
Probably short structure. In 1h 2022 vix didn't work well because it was a steady sell off and lots of calmer moments, people selling vix as it went up.

I think people are not attracted to skew or black Swan puts. Probably a lot more short + short out and selling puts alongside long puts that is keeping vix suppressed. I don't think it means anything. Also I think a lot of non retail people are low exposure or hedged already

Mumus... the beclowning is upon thee...

it's OVER

>>51457035
I'm dumb what would the interest end up doing? Making stocks go down or up

>>51457030
I'm too scared... plz tell me my stop loss wont be hit. Its already close enough

>>51457117
Fat chance they have the balls to hike that much

>>51457123
F

>>51457109
>Probably a lot more short + short out and selling puts a
What do you mean by "short + short out"?

>>51457123
Bro SPY is down .6% just after hours... shits fucked

I SOLD SQQQ BEFORE BREAKING OUT LIKE A FAGGOT!!!!!!!!

fuck.... shiettttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

Is this the first recession that Gold hasn't performed as an inflation hedge? I hear people go on about the S&P:GOLD ratio and it ain't happening.

>>51456969

Cats are rad, so yes.

I'm done with this market. I bought $100k worth of 3 month CDs at 3.2%, and I'll repeat that until things start going up again.

>>51457119
Down, mostly tech tranny stocks.

>>51457161
PMs always dump during the initial crash, but recover afterwards.

>>51457147
Short underlying and sell puts. Short pressure on the vix, or buy put and sell put. I think the market is avoiding going long vix in how they structure trades and you have retail buying naked calls with huge long Vol which collapse.

>>51457158
wtf is wrong with you, THIS IS IT!

>>51457141
People have been calling Jerome a pussy for the past year. So far his rape hiking hasn't stopped.

>>51457185
Are they going to recover to around ~1900 or just relative to other trash?

>tfw pussied out from selling my shorts today

>>51457047
>uh that rant Kanye did was based as fuck.
and yet even now, hours later
still no link

>>51457161
Gold being linked to inflation is a meme. Look at where it pumped most, the 2000s, when there was practically no inflation.

>>51457201
It will in all likelihood poomp higher, but the smart thing to do would be to buy the bottom after it dips.

>>51457021
>oil crashes to 0
Lol you remember that time oil went below 0.

>>51457224
It's a hedge against the collapse of the US government, not against inflation.

>>51457117
3.5% is the bottom confirmed right now based on futures until 27? Not going to be good for investment housing..

>>51457210
nice
I pussed out and Im trying to figure out how much I lost assuming the trend holds into open, looking at about 25%
FUCK

>>51457231
Remember when it went to -30 after going to 0

HOOOOOOOOOOOOKED

>>51457231
Now there was a time to fill up the SPR. Pour it into the holds of cargo ships. Grant EPA waivers so people could store oil in their swimming pools.

>>51457254
Just pour it into the hoover dam and then use it for hydroelectric

>>51457161
Idk I'm sure Schiff is losing his shit over it

>futures

Reminder that Powell literally told you straight into your face that he will crash the stock market and real estate market as part of bringing inflation under control.

Mixed bag day. Good; KDP hiked the divvy and my 401k contribution bagged more "cheap" shares. Bad: Couldn't bag more shares in my brokerage account cause meh bills had to be paid first (plus still gotta get groceries,etc)..Letting the KO dippy pass by was hard, not gonna lie.

I can't believe this September shemitah shit is actually happening wtf

>>51457266
Oil has energy. That means it's good for fish, right? AQBros help me out here.

THE ADULTS ARE BACK IN CHARGE

>>51457245
There's a house that touches my property that's being foreclosed on. I think ima bid and try to steal it.

>>51457291
thank you for the cheapies Mr. Powell

CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

>>51457302
>he thought the jew memes were just funny jokes

>>51457302
for the past 6 months now every piece of news was poised for this shit to happen. the shemitah ending will be the cherry on top

>>51457291
I thought it was just some good ol' office banter
I didn't think he was a literal madlad

>>51457297
im so happy this garbagebrained boomer is about to lose everything he holds dear in his entire shitty plastic fat retarded life

What happened today? Was it the jews?

>>51457241
It's a hedge against something that never happened and something that tends to move together with equities more than against them. So when the US government collapses (whatever that means) you don't know what will actually happen. Gold and silver pricing has a lot to do with sentiment and memes, it pumped in 2011 because of endless gold hype, it was the Bitcoin or Gamestop of that time.

buy

>>51457321
Fedex? More like dedex

>>51457231
>We're still feeling the affects of that to this day with gas prices

>>51457322
The eating bugs one is just a meme though,right?

You just Bo'd your last Bo.
I'll be outside your house tomorrow morning.

>>51457360
kek. no.

>>51457342
have you finally started chopping up your bumble fatties for that next level canning?

>>51456342
Based

>>51457163
My entire protfolio is CAT shorts and puts kid. And I anint sellin em to nobody til they're worth min 10x

>>51457291
Exactly! There is no OTHER way out of this, DESTROY DEMAND, DESTROY LIQUIDITY, thats it!

>>51457312
if you own two houses right next to each other could you build a cool tunnel connecting them? or a bridge? so many possibilities

>>51457353
spot em got em

Digits of this post determine how many % lower we open

>>51457375
No those were just pickled beets. I'm pickling okra right now and then regular pickles after. I have cornered the jam market. There isn't a grandma within 100 miles that makes better jams. Now I am coming for the pickles.

>>51457222
https://youtube.com/shorts/-oXfTBumAWM?feature=share

>>51457342
Nah, it was the expert systems this time.

Am I actually going to get some Friday cheapies or this yet another cocktease?

>>51457347
Risk is defined as the probability of an event occurring, multiplied by the value at stake. Even if the probability of the dollar-denominated government collapsing is tiny, the value at stake is orders of magnitude more significant, hence why gold has value.

>>51457398
I wonder what profit margin of pickled foreskins run

>>51457387
remember to call 811 before you dig

>>51457409
The year is 70% complete and we have been down YTD for every single day of it.
How much cheaper do your cheapies need to be?

>>51457387
Well I got 14 acres, and this house is on 1.5 acres on a different street so I would have like an L shape touching two streets.

>>51457414
Goldbugs truly are a silly people. Literally using SETI Drake equation logic for their investments lmao

>>51457438
I'm a data scientist that does this professionally for a large retail chain. It's real, and that's how it works.

>>51457433
roughly 13% cheaper market wide

>>51457433
I'm going to need some $30 NET.

>387.66 in after-hours
Holy fucking shit I bought so many puts today at 395. I am already so drunk from celebrating my gains this week my dick can't get much more erect

>>51456312
All of these peoples originating geographical areas need to be partly de-settled and their populations severely culled.

Oh, ty but I know where to find pol.

>>51457460
How about erect balls?

How about a movie where a young naive guy interns for Goldman Sachs and only becomes rich by becoming as neurotic and deceitful as possible

>futes
This is it! I'm telling you this is it!

>>51457436
I would have to slowly buy all my neighbors properties until I got to the corner.

Who of you smiggers actually trades for a living?

>>51457474
What's the movie about Facebook?

>>51457458
i bought two $140 LEAPS on net when it hit $45, they are up by $1k now, feels pretty nice
been eyeing that company since last year

>everyone is doing puts
>everyone is well aware of the crash now
>no more puts will be available to for me to get in on
>not even applied for option trading still
its literally too late for me to get in on this now. all i can do is watch my money go to zero while desperately hording the cash i do have on me

>>51457470
Make sure to massage your balls daily to keep them supple

>>51457494
im an unemployed neet and i trade for a living. i dont actually make any money tho

>>51457503
You could short ethereum,altho that might be too degen for you.

>>51457503
we havent even hit july's lows and we're going lower mate

>>51457516
Okay I mean who actually makes money off of trading lives off of that income.

>>51457414
but,but , whhhattt about bbbbitcoin ?

>>51457503
>what are inverse etfs

>>51457339
how there buddy don't you talk like that about divvy boomer. His unbothered blogposts are at least different from all this autistic OOOOOOOHH and AAAAAAHH posting that comes with the smallest % change in the market

>>51456384
literally none of these things are needed in the real world,
they were a colossal waste of resources and energy,
depleted and polluted the planet for longer than a decade,
and were only possible because of retarded ZIRP, NIRP and LIRP policies by geriatric central bankers.
it's 2022 and the only real world application for crypto was a most efficient waste of previous resources and energy.
prove me wrong
protip: you're a faggot

I bought more VOO.

>>51457489
I WANT TO SEE A LIMIT DOWN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I'VE NEVER WITNESSED ONE

>>51457433
SPY under 350

>>51457503
we're down 21% and briefly licked 25%, you are a bit late and while there is no guarantee that we stop at 40% or 50% or whatever it would not be bussin

>>51457526
I would need to put half of my cash in on those to make any kind of noticeable gains. And I need the cash on my now for my monthly bills. I'm a 32 year old neet with a blank white sheet for a resume. I am a lost cause whose only purpose is to be made into fodder in the great reset.

wait till last sec on friday and buy calls
I guarantee (or your money back) it will all go up next week

>>51457539
Bold and brave

I've never seen a circuit break live... what does it feel like when you watch it unfold in real time?

>>51457563
>it will all go up next week
Based on what? and no.a clown market is not an argument

>>51457534
>literally none of these things are needed in the real world,
money transfers are needed and so the infrastructure that supports them is needed
>they were a colossal waste of resources and energy
oh man wait til you hear how much resources and energy go into building bank offices and feeding bank employees
your head will explode in degrowth anger

>>51457047
trump was such a limp dicked faggot pushover caricature of a man as president.
no wonder they trampled all over his face
>inb4 something something denying reality

>>51457557
The SPY will be like 355 in 2 more weeks, still plenty of money to be made to the downside.

>>51457576
BUDDY

futes still drilling. its farkin joever

>>51457576
It's like being in the eye of the hurricane. It's quiet and calm, and then when it opens again the shitstorm is back they keep selling hard.

>>51457580
rate hike confirmed = stocks up
Plus after this week of constant negatives we will go up again, guaranteed

bobos, witness baggie's call and make your peace

>>51456884
hey fellow jew did you know what shemitah was before it started being mentioned as an indicator of economic collapse? i never heard of it. i talked with you about being a terrible jew a few weeks ago. i still am. im going to fast for yom kippur to attempt to become a good jew again so i can get access to the jew insiders

>>51457581
>money transfers
crypto isn't money, barely even used similarly to what we call money
>>51457581
>oh man wait til you hear how much resources and energy go into building bank offices and feeding bank employees
banking and the financial system are at least established things.
crypto did nothing but waste resources.

Fuckin Christ, it's over. It's been a good ride, boys.

>>51456884
Sign me up. I believe in Jewish power now and I am afraid.

>>51457603
>Plus after this week of constant negatives we will go up again, guaranteed
You don't know that

anyone else thinking it's a good idea to continue stocking up on dried and canned food?
things feel dire

I don't feel so good.

Is the dollar milkshake theory correct?

>>51457648
but i do

>>51457600
Will hedge fund people actually start jumping in NYC or is that a myth

>>51456416
>>51456391
Sex with a person that loves you is the best feeling in the world.
Forcefully thrusting inside her clenching Vagina while she has her legs around your abdomen and moans every thrust has to be the best orgasm in the world.
Sadly this type of sex isn't that common, especially when a woman is under hormonal birth control.

>>51457494
>>51457516
>>51457521

If you want to trade full time, you need about a million bucks to feel safe

800k in passive funds and 200k in high risk trading account

you can do with just the 200k but losing means wendy's

>>51457576
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA then nothing

>>51457654
>Is the dollar milkshake theory correct?
qrd on the dollar milkshake theory, please?

>>51457630
Nice try, commie

>>51457528
naw fuck him and you too for that matter, he never contributes anything of value or even interacts with anyone, just blogposts about his shitty brainless 401k picks and state funded pension (with our taxes by the way) and fucks off
legitimately a worse drain on the board than the gay sex siga spam

>>51457603
>bulls still trying the "bad news is good news" narrative

You still haven't learned anything you fucking retard. Line goes down until you get margin called and all the niggers that debt maxed 2020-2022 are buck broken

>>51457666
Tldr: dollar strengthens off shore, weakens in the USA.

>>51457663
>a million
Buddy we're not in 2010 anymore
At least 5kk now

>>51457630
>crypto isn't money, barely even used similarly to what we call money
not in america, but its used for remittances
its way cheaper than western union and the like at sending $500 from the west into a shithole
>>51457630
>banking and the financial system are at least established things.
yeah, growth and innovation involve taking risks
but we do have some tribes in australia who live by hunting small game if youre into sticking to the established way of doing things

>>51457540
Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxtBeGZ_1MY

Also notice what the banner on the top left says.

>>51457680
nah if you can't yield 20% returns on 1m then you shouldn't bother and just get 10% passive from index funds

20% means 200k/year and if you aren't accumulating wealth with that income you are ngmi

>>51457680
not going to state my position and larp but you would be surprised how little you need

>>51456994
Maybe we are heading into a depression? There's also been talks of WW3 happening before midterms because of Taiwan.

Pro tip to beating this board every time post succubus links from 4plebs archive. You will take down this board so easy every single time. It's their weakness. You're welcome. Regards the old fag that was here before everybody else used to use this website.

niggers

>>51457691
lmao

>>51457677
Hypothetically let's say I "borrowed" 20k from my borkerage expecting the Eternal Crab to keep turning.
How do I unfuck this?

BUDDY LOOK AT GBP/USD COMPUTER
BUDDY LOOK AT SPY COMPUTER

>>51457656
Well that settles it

>>51457702
Kek no. There wont be a depression and there wont be a WW3. The environment we are in is too much money. Not too little like the depression. And China isnt doing anything.

>>51456342
lol. lmao even
low effort bait

>>51457702
Nah, we are sending normies back to work.

When the free money dries up and people are no longer getting paid 400k/yr to work 2h a day from home, then we have bottomed

>>51457729
BUDDY LOOK AT EVERYTHING
BUDDY LOOK AT THE MIRROR

>>51457663
Not sure what standards you have but I doubt that is actually necessary

>>51457691
>Women open the stock market
>Circuit breakers activate instantly

>>51457559
SQQQ should still have decent gains.
But if there's no overnight gap you should still have a chance to get in on puts tomorrow.
For the record being a bobo is a bad idea especially a neet bobo. You should instead wait for the dip then buy things you think will rebound like high quality tech or oil.

>>51457721
Revenge trade or kneepads. I'm bear and cash till 375 but honestly could see lower.. there is literally zero good macro to be optimistic about and after quad witching gets blown out and jpow dunks on retail with a 100bps hike we are red until the Russia/Ukraine war ends or inflation significantly drops (it will be up again next month and Q3 gdp will be negative again)

>>51457741
for "full time" you need a wage, and you need way above average to compensate for risk

I think 200k is the minimum to live off it. with 50k you need to make 100% a year just to survive and your account doesn't grow and no backup fund when you lose

>>51457739
>BUDDY LOOK AT THE MIRROR

>>51457756
womemes should really stay away from the bell

>>51457721
Just delete the app and change your phone number.

>>51456274
Can anyone explain to me this high interest rates?
Why are banks asking me to loan at 0.59% a month when back pre-covid its 1% a month

I still don't see a 100bps hike since Nomura is predicting it and they've literally gotten everything wrong so far.

>>51457703

>>51457797
Please re-phrase the question in English.

>>51457775
>after quad witching gets blown out
so green or crab tomorrow and monday and then big one tuesday?

>>51457777
what the hell do you need $50k per year for
$200 utilities $200 food $200 rent in bumfuck nowhere
done, $8k per year, anything more is for alchohol, family, parties, living in the big city, travel etc

>>51456963
why would you hold a future contract for more than 30 minutes

>>51457814

>>51456312
> bobos

>>51457807
Banks keep calling me to take a loan at 0.59% a month, when back pre-covid its 1%
I dont understand all these high interest rate by JPow affecting us commoners. Shouldnt interest from taking a loan be higher?

>>51457814
You are right I live in a big overpriced city lmao

still.. you should aim to have a good life right? Sure you can get by living in a crackhouse but fuck that lol

>>51457777
I'm so sick of the "you need a million to live off of investing" midwits. I withdrew another 2,000 today. You can tongue my anus retard

>>51457773
short sqqq for greater gainzz

why the fuck are futures down so much already

>>51457842
To take a loan out? Thats pretty low. Considering theyre calling you its probably a promotional rate to get people to get loans out or to switch to their bank. But technically you could take that loan out, assuming you are paying 0.59% rate yearly, and go buy a 2 year note and you make money off it. Assuming inflation comes down that is.

>>51457489
>/biz/ bobos we’re first
Shemitah specials for goyim BTFDers

>>51457857
because i sold my puts at close

>>51457663
The fuck? If you're a skilled trader you could make a living from forex, futures, or options with a relatively small amount of capital. Obviously having passive accounts provides more peace of mind but you don't need them.
And losing isn't some sort of doomsday scenario, use stop losses and don't overleverage or be emotional. Again you need to know what you are doing.

>>51457691
i like the contrast of everyone clapping while the market is plummeting

Hypothetically, let's say I fucked Janet Yellen

>>51457851
Now imagine if you didn't withdraw, and let it compound.

That's why you shouldn't be full time yet.. Unless you have no expenses and live in the basement? Then go for it desu good job (and don't withdraw plz)

>>51457814
>$200 rent
are you renting a tent in california? You won't find that rent anywhere in the US

>>51457851
what's your strategy and how long have you been doing this? the million thing is more living off divvies and not having to trade

>>51457857
cozy chilly autumn rains have started. vidya and beer and longing markets ofc

>>51457882
This is the most depraved post I've ever seen.

>>51457882
was he dry?

>>51457848
nobody wants to live in rural areas because there are no jobs
if you dont need a job, its good arbitrage to move to the places with fresh air, low rents and zero darkies

>>51457540
>Covid overnight futures circuit breakers was comfy.
Mega profits on emoji puts at -4% , stops going down and flatlines until moron tries to buy or the market opens.

>>51457885
>unironically do not redeem sir

>>51457874
You can make it with just 25k, but the risk is high and I would say 200k is enough to survive any drawdown if you are actually profitable

>>51457882
I'd rather be black

>railworker strike averted
>market dumps anyway
so much for my bounce play...

the holy chart of smg was correct today will it be correct tomorrow?

>>51457918
It dumped because of the ethereum merge

did any of you make gigabux during the 2020 march crash? did you buy the bottom? i imagine there must have been plenty anons who got wiped out as well

>>51457885
Leaving it in is bullshit and what the jews want you to do. Leverage the shit out of 10-15k and steal pennies and withdraw them

>>51457890
I quit my job 3 months ago when I got covid. If you can't hustle 300+ a day with options you are low iq and I'm sorry

>>51457920
Attention code monkies. Can you code this into Tradingview?thx

>>51457842
No idea - mortgage rates are going up tho.

>>51457874
I've been trading for 3 months now (got a safety net of savings for a year or so). Went from 600 GBP (britbong) in my first two months to now my first 'paycheck' so to speak of 2000. I have about 2000-10000 at my disposal. Obviously that's quite little so I leverage trade stocks. Do you believe options/forex/futures are better suited? I'm also likely to take up a part time job as I aim for consistent profitability, but I think I'm doing quite well at the moment. Could of course just be luck.

>>51457905
You could potentially make it to 200k+, instead you worry about losing 2k which you can make at wendy's

If you are actually a good trader, withdrawals are holding you back when your portfolio is 18k...

>>51457936
I am not saying not to realize gains but trading with a small amount is not a winning strategy my friend

You are willingly reducing your wins

>>51457936
I'm sure I could I'd rather have a comfy job with a 401k in spy/pension building for 20 years and trade for fun

>>51457911
What drawdown? If something goes wrong in serious trading you have a stop to get you out of that position around some defined risk level, let's say 1% of the account minus some slight slippage. Yes there is some exceptions like intraday flash crashes but that's a rare occurrence. Still happens and it's helpful to have extra cash but not as much as you're saying, if you're not overleveraged.

>>51457937
i think tv has open-close-red-green strategy in basic strats already. but no futures included it's harder to code into that

>>51457962
If you are already trading indices then futures are the exact same, just the leverage is baked into the contract. FX+Options are a little more involved but if you're leverage trading SPY/QQQ going to ES/NQ would be easy.

>>51457962
>I have about 2000-10000 at my disposal.
Buddy you're not gonna be able to make a liveable income from that.

Consistent returns of 10% PY would be considered extremely good and "beating the market" - even investment banks probably struggle to get returns much more than this.

peace be with you bobros

New

>>51458004
>>51458004

>>51457977
I would not want to rely on producing more than 50% annual returns. There can be weeks where your account is flat and there are no good opportunities

Seriously don't be "that guy" who goes full time trading with 100k. If you are good, you surely can make it to a million while holding your job

Then you at least have some sort of guarantee that you won't get your ass handed to you

>>51457962
If you're sure you're consistent, some form of leveraged trading on liquid tickers is the next step to bigger gains (but also bigger losses if you weren't ready). I would look into micro futures like /MES, major pairs like EURUSD, or highly liquid options chains like SPX and SPY.
But if you haven't I would first paper trade them for months, possibly longer until you're really sure of yourself.

>>51457966
I max margin always so I'm trading with around 25-30k that I can move with zero fucking fear. Bigger portfolios turn you into a bitch. I steal money from you guys that are spooked about losing your goy shekels. I can get better returns with 30k than with being a little bogglehead bitch with 100k. Simple as. Finna boutta make another 1-2k tomorrow and then I'm going on vacation for 3 days. Enjoy work and trying to make it or whatever

>>51457976
Cool. I’ll look thx

>>51457962
>I've been trading for 3 months now
>Do you believe options...are better suited
No offense but you're going to blow up your account within the year. The good news is that your account is small, so you can always start again.

>>51458024
Micros are a scam. Pay the same commission for less. Just paper trade until you're ready for minis.

>>51458038
That's why 800k in passive funds and 200k in trading account - to eliminate fear and produce a consistent income

You get my point

>>51456391
good.

>>51458009
That kind of circles it back to where I originally said if they are a "skilled trader" >>51457874.
Sure everybody has rough weeks or months, but there's always opportunities and a skilled trader has enough practice and experience to overcome the challenge. Practiced traders don't just sit there looking at the price action of /ES and EURUSD and say "aw shucks, there's no good opportunities!". There's many opportunities daily.
Whoever "that guy" was simply wasn't a skilled trader in the first place.

>>51458064
IBKR and AMP Futures have lower commissions for micro.

>>51457874
everyone who says this has no experience trading.

>>51458548
>no actual argument

>>51458581
Its a good argument you're just too stupid to see why

>>51458606
Don't be a dumb nigger. I'll even do the math for you since you're retarded.
Assume somebody only had 25,000. As of right now /ES is about 200,000 grand notional value. They could trade /ES without being over 10x leverage which is decent risk wise.
If they average 10 points a day, about 20 trading days a month, that's 200 points. 200 times 50 dollars a point comes out to about 10,000. Even 100 points a month would still be decent income. 10 points is bigger than scalp but not quite a swing, so it's a reasonable average per day.
It takes practice and discipline to get to that level and there's many things that can go wrong, but it's not impossible like you brainlets try to assert.

>>51458689
ok keep trying then, you will surely be one out of amillion that does it lmao

>>51459058
The chances are better than "one out of amillion" and I'm not arguing whether or not I can do it personally. Just that "trading for a living" traders aren't some ultra rare breed and it's not impossible or unfeasible like you try to assert.
You still have no real argument btw.