/biz/ - Business & Finance

Not yet, we still need to pump and liquidate shorts.

The most interesting part is the implied rate of cutting once we've hit the terminal rate.

>>51427800
Doesn't matter, the game is rigged. Democrats are too powerful and they're backed by the Jews. There won't be any crash/happening/black swan while Biden/Harris are in power.

>>51427818
We already did that, you fucking idiot. That's what the nonstop 20% pump was for

>>51427875
>There won't be any crash/happening/black swan while Biden/Harris are in power.
you better start believing you qtard faggot, we're in one.

>>51427875
By this logic, the past 11 months wouldn't have happened. LOL what the fuck is up with you delusional mumus? There is a time to be bullish. Now is not that time.

>>51427899
>>51427907
Crypto faggots are still paying $20k for an old tech, useless cryptocurrency. The Nasdaq and S&P are still booming even though macroeconomics are 100x worse than they were when covid first hit. The democrats and their kike backers are propping it all up for Bidens presidency and the next democrat presidency. Any sniff of Republicans taking back the white house in the next 10+ years (they won't) then the Jews will crash it all to hell.

>>51427968
Good for you, midwit. Enjoy a shit 10% roi per month. When crypto recovers, even bitchcoin will be giving a 5x from here in a year or two's time. Though I still foresee a massive crash this month so more like 10x or so from the real bottom.

>>51427997
>Enjoy a shit 10% roi per month.
*per year

>>51427800
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>51427997
>when
>maybe
>if
>might
>there's a chance
>possibly

Listen here, bear faggot. It's simple. Crypto won't crash and stonks won't crash because the kikes and their democrat puppets do not want to upset their voters.

>>51428020
>Crypto won't crash and stonks won't crash because the kikes and their democrat puppets do not want to upset their voters.
You retarded fuck. If this were true, the past 11 mother fucking months NEVER would have happened. You make no sense

>>51428028
Fucking retard, it could crash another 20% and people will still be up massively. But it's not going to crash another 20% because the kikes and their democrat puppets do not want to upset their voters.

>>51428206
I'm sure you blame bad weather on some Jewish conspiracy too.

>>51428028
This, they can't let big corporations crash now. They still need to milk the cow and blame disaster on next admin

>>51428206
What the flying fuck is this cope? Btc already crashed 71% from the ath and has crashed 85% before. You're an idiot.

>>51427800
And the worst part to this clownery is it means Jack and dick to savings account interest rates. I actually remember a time when you could put your money in a savings account and actually outpace inflation, if only just. Now it may as well be under-the-mattress but with insurance.

>>51427800
>YOU CAN'T DO THIS!!!!!!!! I NEED LOW RATES TO PUMP THE FAKE AND GAY ECONOMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>51427883
Go back to plebbit

>>51427800
The funny thing is that’s not even that bad. Imagine saying this in the era of Volcker, ppl would be wiping the sweat off their brows and BTFD. The market reaction to this is outsized and based on emotion/fear, the actual interest rate is doing nothing. If anything id say the removal of QE liquidity is probably having the most effect

>>51430481
Nice argument chud!

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/us-mortgage-interest-rates-top-6-first-time-since-2008-2022-09-14/ Do you know what this means faggot bobos

>>51427870
It’s underestimating supply side inflation and intransigence/stickiness.

>>51428020
But someone does.

>>51430678
the Volcker area didn't have a massive debt problem though, if fed raises over 3-3.5% US default is imminent

>>51428206
>Still believing votes matter
I'm sure they'd like to avoid a revolution that removes them from power, but that's all they have to be concerned with because that's what it would take at this point.

>>51431117
The US won't default. They have a dollar printer. Its businesses and households that will be screwed.

>>51427968
You know the jews back the republicans too right? Most Neocons in power are jewish. They love Israel. Its a falze dichotomy to sow discontent among the goyim. Divide ajd conquer.

>>51430678
You're just a fucking idiot. Relative increase is what matters, not the overall number. Volker going "insane beast ultra mode" from 10% to 20% is no different than going from 1% to 2% in an established debt based market.

>>51431117
No, us defaults at 12%, but if they raise to let's say 5% and they get a recession us government tax gains collapse (since it's all progressive taxation now), also welfare gibs would increase hence deficit would grow and th elevel in which the us defaults would go lower from 12% to 7%.

As you can imagine rates going to 5% and level in which the usa default going lower due to a recession would be a dangerous game to play.

The best game the fed can do is what the bitfinex african american said about doing yield curve control or buying euro bonds to lower the dxy pumping the markets while they still can raise rates a little more slowly.

Anyone that lived in an inflationary country knows the usa is in a full wage spiral now and morons thinking a recession would fix it are just that morons.

Rcession won't stop rents going up 40% per year if there is a shortage of housing or cars going up 40% per year if there is a shortage of cars.

In fact it will probably make things worse by destroying demand once again slowing future supply.

Europe is going full Argentina, so is bongland, the usa could in theory avoid this by pushing for shale gas and nuclear energy but for some reason the democrats won't.

They still would not go full Argentina, but 12% inflation per year will become normal as well wage spirals of that level every year.

The problem is that nations will put capital controls on the usd even us allies so burgerland will depend on ethereum stablecoins bypassing those capital controls as a way of keeping the western sphere operating to some level of coordination.

Once again the bitfinex african american is right on this, capital controls will happen because wage spirals will happen.

The usd reserve currency status will depend on being able of bypass those capital controls, for some reason cash won't work due to retarded post 9/11 regulations, and neither will official banking.

>>51428818
Quick someone find the real economy!

>3 month cd rate is already 3.1%
are we gonna see the return of 6% return on bonds?