/biz/ - Business & Finance

ew someone one delete this

oh no no no mumus

>>51410552
get a job

i will not be posting in this thread

it's unironically OVER

I just can't do it. I CAN'T TAKE THIS SHIT NO MORE MAN!

priced in

NEW YORK, Sept 12 (Reuters) - Starbucks announced new student loan repayment tools and a savings account program for all U.S. employees who are not union members, the company said on Monday, amid a growing union drive and soaring demand for coffee.

I think I'll skip the rest of the day

Told you faggots to buy puts since Friday. Only thing left now is to ride my puts till 390 and see if we crash lower or bounce

>>51410582
>get a job
everybody is already working.
the USA is at full employment.

weeeee

AMA webinar later this morning, SIGA is going to pump
>https://www.ama-assn.org/about/events/what-physicians-need-know-about-tecovirimat-tpoxx-treatment-monkeypoop

>>51410552
I'm 100% in TQQQ with a 53k portfolio. I'm 22 - do I just sell and use the money to explore the world while learning to code?

went all in 3x bear nasdaq on live account regards paper trader anon

>>51410614
I love bullshit made up numbers!

>>51410614
>all 158,XXX
That seems totally organic and not manipulated

>>51410634
Yes. Stocks only make you bitter and regretful.

Da money is alway greener,
In somebody else's take,
You dream about jogging out there,
But that is a big mistake,
Just look at da ground around you,
Right here on da asphalt floor,
Watching da cops surround you,
What more is you looking for?

Under da knee,
Under da knee,
Nigger it's better,
Under da pressure,
I cannot breathe
Da white man work all day,
He has to earn his pay,
While we be choking,
Vertebrae broken,
Under da knee.

Most all da niggers happy,
Because they ain't for sale,
The ones who isn't happy,
Are the ones who is locked in jail,
But the nog in the jail is lucky,
Because safely away they sealed,
Because their life could be sucky,
Working the cotton field.

Under da knee.
Under da knee.
Nobody tell us,
They gonna sell us,
In slavery.
We what schlomo loves to push,
Under the knee we out da bush.
I swallow da fenta,
Now my neck is all benta
Under da knee.
Under da knee.

Since I'm a crook see,
They've got to book me,
Forged a twenty.
Wish I had a banana here to eat,
As I'm face down on the street.
Feel comatose,
As I overdose
Under da knee.

>>51410634
mommy and daddy will just give you more do what you want

Where were you when financial Armageddon started?

we fucking won bearbros the caucasus did it
bear run to 25k
whens the break cut out again, -5%?

>>51410627
Every single day you say this.

>>51410649
just b urself

>>51410653
...the first day of my first vacation in 3 years

>>51410640
>>51410644
>it's fake if it doesn't fit my worldview
>Hillary: everybody I don't agree with is a russian hacker

>>51410647
thanks /pol/, I needed that

>>51410653
At work in 2007

>it keeps going down

does the end of shmita mean a pump or a dump?

kek, baggies, kek

>>51410582
>two big macs and 20 piece McNuggets

Nice bulk. Would've ditched the coke and fries tho.

>multiple 50 and 75 basis point rate hikes have done nothing to lower inflation
i think we can finally admit what i've been saying all along, that it has nothing to do with money printing, and is almost entirely caused by supply constraints.
>multiple rate hikes make it more difficult to raise funds to deploy more supply logistics
nice job jerome!

Who's buying?

>>51410647
need a vocaroo of this shit

>>51410653
I'm gonna miss all the fun as I have to travel across the country tomorrow

>>51410582
based

>>51410706
>i think we can finally admit what i've been saying all along, that it has nothing to do with money printing, and is almost entirely caused by supply constraints.
Exactly.

>>51410706
real inflation is running like 20% and the rates are like 3% of course fucking .5% rate hikes do nothing

>>51410715
That's blatantly a man.

>>51410647
In all fairness, that stupid cumskin cop is at fault for unleashing a seething globohomo wave of forced browning of everything literally unseen before.
Stupid fucking cop has done more damage to the white race in one fell swoop than what all of the kikes have done for decades with interracial pornography, etc.
FUCK HIM.
HE'S AT FAULT FOR TURNING THE WHOLE WORLD INTO NIGGERLOVERS.

>>51410653
shitposting on a vietnamese basket weaving board with my frens

>SPY -3%
>QQQ -4%
>SOXL...

>>51410649
I made the money from sports gambling, had 10k from working part time until 19 and then did very stupid things but got lucky, then put it into QQQ

>>51410645
It has been a stressful year...on 2k a month I'll have 2 years to learn to code and find a job

uhh bobros why are we going up?

>>51410740
>b-b-but that isn't REAL inflation!
>b-b-but that wasn't REAL communism!

>>51410677
stop posting the racist ariel, do you want banned from twitter?

>>51410552
>BEATEN WHY FOR
CAN'T TAKE MUCH MORE

Reminder that rail workers, fed ex, and UPS are all having strikes which start the 16th

>>51410706
The rate hikes aren't doing anything because they've printed so much money and bought so much garbage assets in the last 14 years. The rates need a 1500bps hike to have any chance of combating the real rate of inflation.

>>51410647
kek, thanks /pol/

>>51410715
like how are women still complaining about their looks nowadays? just dont eat, work out 5 times a week get a boob and a nose job and you're set to marry a millionaire

>>51410746
believe it or not,
this is within the realms of normal market behavior.

Is this the time to buy? Cheapies?

The last time we had a -4% day was in june and it over a messily .1 percent difference in cpi data.

>>51410706
JPOW has been milk toast all year.

SELL SELL SELL REDDIT SELL

if spy closes -2.5% or worse then this will be the ride of skeletons, my frens

>>51410805
The markets are overdosing on onions.

>>51410772
HERE WE GO HERE WE GO HERE WE GO NOW

>>51410706
Supply constraints is the problem definitely, but we can’t magic up more supply. We are at peak capacity, the only solution when have it to kill demand and that’s what jermone has ‘said’ he is committed to doing

THE MARKET IS HEALING EAT SHIT BOBO!

i sense a pump to over $400 eod to fuck all short term options holders

>>51410715
Me. I'd also sniff her vulva to increase my testosterone levels. Which in turn, would make me buy more (due to increased risk taking behavior). Leading to EVEN MORE GAINS, when the stock market goes back up.
World hunger solved.

Is there really nothing to do but short in an economic downturn?
I thought energy would do well

It's still dumping. Guys? GUYS??

Guys did we just witness the death of the fake and gay market?

We still have 5 hours to go.. is today the circuit breaker??

What a time to be a bear!!!

Why are most retail traders so scared of shorting?

>>51410699
Not necessarily either. Things proceed according to the situation, instead of being subject to the additional effect of the year. However, the shemitah effect tends to last beyond Rosh Hashanah into October. See October 1987 for a classic example.

>>51410658
Institutions are still going long on SIGA

>>51410835
Energy kind of peaked, it could go higher but it could hardly stay there. When everything dumps everything dumps. But if the market goes down mildly you still have a bullish position that can be green and that's shorting VIX derivatives.

>>51410778
but inflation has only been a rampant issue for the past year or two, not 14
>>51410826
killing demand kills jobs and puts people out on the streets. surely the president could do something meaningful to prop up supply lines until companies deploy more logistics. deploy the national guard if need be.

how long can this go? Do we fall forever...

mumu are you ok

>>51410867
I bought at 10 and sold at 20, unironically will buy back in once cases go back up

>>51410771
>do you want banned from twitter?
Too late for that lol

What is this disney era called anyways? revival was last decade or whatever.

>>51410859
not until midterms, the manipulation has become completely politicized, the banks know they can't keep it up, but they also know who their masters are

>>51410863
Shorting requires skill because going long has a the long-term growth tailwind.

The stock market is not a zero sum game, companies make money and stocks go up. Only a professional can make a profit timing the market movements, this is why plebs say "time in the market"

TLDR: going long is easy mode, shorting is for chads who are so cocky, they want to try and milk every last dollar (instead of waiting in cash and buying the bottom)

lad i dont think you understand how happy i am
i threw so much money at dcaing my shorts and i kept getting railed. i was 50 points from liquidation. im so happy
fuck you mumu niggers. you didnt deserve that ridiculous run

>>51410900
This time will be different, just keep slurping

>>51410863
Listen to them and you'll see what ngmicels believe:
>time in the market > timing the market
>DCA
>buy the dips
they've been trained to believe in a market that goes up inexorably, so they're scared of going in the other direction

>>51410863
I think the GME fiasco and the theoretical potential for infinite losses scares most away

rightfully so because lord knows retail is too stupid to short things correctly if they can't even long things correctly either

>>51410912
>What is this disney era called anyways? revival was last decade or whatever.
the era of darkness

>>51410896
The vast majority of jobs these days are worthless, the people actually doing they work will suffer slightly but he alright the useless eaters will starve. I’m sorry but it just has to be this way

thank god this week was the fakest and gayest rally I've seen in my life

>>51410921
t.

Ay Chihuahua

Remember when I tried to fucking warn you guys yesterday? >>51397598 You guys didn't fucking listen, nobody fucking listened.

A head and shoulders is about the generalized pattern not the exact movements you fucking retards.

>>51410798
You buy under 390... it's going to get much worse after 9/16 now that everyone has to get out of their calls lol

>>51410959
I make it a general rule not to listen to alcoholics

1Y be bussin on god

JPM printed that article about AAPL mooning specifically to dump appl shares onto retail.

Bobos win again. How do they keep doing it?

how far does oil think this recession will drive it down today?DYM2h

>>51410911
>"You're not here for the hunting, are you?"

SPY has hit a mathematically unbreakable resistance at 398. This is the bottom, chuds. You've had your fun but there is literally nothing wrong with the US economy or financial system. ATH by end of september.

>>51410826
unfortunately jerome cant do much about that, its in the hands of the govt. the govt thats passing $xyz billion spending bills, nay, inflation reduction acts

>>51410964
DWACtranny you are one of the biggest fucking retards here and thats saying a lot

>>51410959
You are going to actually take profits this time right?

anybody else holding soxs and busting a nut right now?? incredible

>>51410984
We understand what the future has in store, all we can do is take money from those who refuse to understand.

decent amount of volume today. gonna be ugly all day

I DEMAND CIRCUIT BREAKERS

>>51410896
>but inflation has only been a rampant issue for the past year or two, not 14
Have you not noticed everything steadily getting more expensive and lower quality all this time?
The shrinkflation?

2008-2019 was boiling a frog in cold water, 2020 onwards with the completely out of control money printing is a nuclear furnace burning living standards and currencies into ash.

>>51410749
ok and? your parents paid for your lodging and food, probably even did your laundry for you too faggot
bet you still live with your folks kek

>>51410706
>i think we can finally admit what i've been saying all along, that it has nothing to do with money printing, and is almost entirely caused by supply constraints.
Youre a fucking moron.

>>51410745
based

>>51410964
reminder that pork chops, beef shoulders, cups, handles, and assorted cookware are not financial analysis

Ok this isn't funny anymore, this shit is bleeding into oil now too. Bobo it's time to back off oil before I get angry. You don't want to see me angry.

>>51411016
I stopped holding leveraged shit for the time being because i am an absolute moron when it comes to timing

>>51411025
shut up jew

>get home from night shift
>sigh
>doubt self
>check puts
>check history on wikipedia where printing loads of money never works, ever, not even once
>maybe they're right and I'm an idiot
>maybe its different this time
>awaken 11:05
>check market

Sometimes you just need faith:)

>>51411041
im shhort it needs to drop another dollar than it can recover

BUY ALERT
>BUY ALERT
BUY ALERT
>BUY ALERT
Intel under $30. Smash those order buttons

>>51411032
excellent rebuttal i like how you used examples and metrics to prove your retarded point!
>>51411024
they've always targeted 2% inflation. we haven't seen 8% since the 70s and 80s.

FUCK CARVANA

IM ONLY JUST NOW BREAKING EVEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

WHY DIDNT I DOUBLE DOWN YESTERDAY????

>>51410999

Cool because I made thousands of dollars calling the top earlier this year too lmao

>>51411056
>back to 2014 prices
lmao

>>51410647

>>51410304
>lmao cpi is not "hot" retard. Do you even read these reports? It takes like, 5 fuckin minutes.
good lord i cannot believe i am participating in the same market as people who are this fantastically fucking retarded. core CPI was UP year over year

inflation got WORSE and the rate hikes aren't doing shit. you people are the same retarded motherfuckers who buy CVNA, BYND, PLUG, SOXL and all the other retarded meme shit. die in a fucking fire because you people are the problem

Aaaaaaaaaaaa

>>51411056
No, semis are going to get seriously heemed

>>51410863
Because you're fighting against theta. where normally its on your side.

>>51411056
>intel
surely you wouldnt

Fuck bros, it’s getting kinda hard to be a Joe bro

>>51410820
ONE
>NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

>>51410998
Not before we pop the fucking circuit breaker. I am waiting for the fucking breakers to pop, once (((they))) inform (you) the economy isn't as fucking resilient as (((they))) have been telling you since (((they))) changed the definition of recession.

>>51410997
After the election Jpow is going to hike rates to the moon.
Check um!

We still have to fill those gaps from june 16th mumu

>>51411058
It wasn’t that long ago the target was 1.5%. Before that, no target.

>>51410959
Baggie you are the one that didn't listen. You just perna bear the whole time when I told /smg/ the exact times to pivot bull and then back bear in the last month. I wish I had your jew money to gamble with I'm up 50% in 3 months and riding perfectly timed puts i bought at 410-411

>>51411101
TWO
>NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

>>51410984
Until actual good news comes out, we’re going nowhere but down. When the macro is all bad and inflation is out of control, watch the fuck out

>inflation still going up
>the only thing down was gas prices because of the dumping of the reserves
OH BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST THE SUPPLY CHAIN

WHERE ARE YOU FED GLOWIES? WASN'T INFLATION CAUSE OF THE SUPPLY CHAIN AND NOT THE FED?

>>51411111

>>51410614
imagine trusting government numbers

>>51411091
>inflation got WORSE and the rate hikes aren't doing shit.
I'm screencapping your post to show you in 12 months. YoY readings will be 6% lower ;)

>>51411073
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Why did it stop falling?

>>51411105
Theyre going to have a hard time making it until primaries let alone election. Honestly think biden is going to demand the printers spool back up

>ishares europe property yeld at march 2020 lows
Tempted to slurp a little.

>>51411091
>NOOO YOU CANT JUST KEEP BUYING LEVERAGED INSTRUMENTS YOU CANT LET MY PUTS EXPIRE WORTHLESS!!!!!!
lol
>>51411112
to be honest i'm not aware of the history of inflation targets so you might be right
regardless, ~2% isn't so bad and is probably necessary to inflate away debt
>>51411138
?
>multiple 50 and 75 BPS rate hikes
>balance sheet reductions as well
>does nothing to inflation
>NOPE THIS CANT POSSIBLY BE DUE TO SUPPLY LINES MUST BE THE MONEY PRINTING
???

Reminder that inflation is because of the fed's printing.

>>51411104
>baggot getting smug
If you haven't started buying this dip, now is the screaming alarm telling you to.

>>51411168
No shit

>>51411159
nasdaq just broke under 4%, its no where near stopping

>>51411159
Today is a zero bounce, slow bleed day

tomorrow we tank again

>>51411138
I THOUGHT WE COULD FUCKING RAISE THE FUCKING WAGES AND KEEP THE PRICES LOW AND RECORD MORE FUCKING PROFITS!!! WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN WE'RE IN A RECESSION??? THE INFLATION IS 8% HOW THE FUCK CAN THE GDP GROWTH BE NEGATIVE WHEN EVERYTHING COSTS 8% MORE?????

>>51411119
just like your digits were so close if you dont have a trip code no one remembers your ass or your comments...

>>51411167
>he thinks this rate hikes are enough to curb inflation
anon you haven't seen shit yet

kek, baggies, kek

>>51411151
No shit, no one's disputing that. But there will be 12 months of higher interest rates and headwinds for your negative-profit tech ponzi schemes until then, Cathy, which is why the market is down TODAY

>>51411168
Yes, but if Mnuchin was still around we'd be out of this bullshit already.

>>51411177
Fucking buy it. i'm not fucking stopping you, but i'm telling you we're going back to $350 before we go back to fucking $400.

>>51411194
They don't line up

>350
More like 120

>>51411168
wrong

DIE OIL DIE! I NEED YOU DOWN .50 more cents!

Based rural Ohioians blocking the AQB fish farms.

https://www.13abc.com/2022/09/13/ohio-epa-holds-public-meeting-aquabounty-permits/

Fuck you and your mutant fish you bagholders.

So when do we stop selling off and panicking over CPI reports?

Fed said wont be 2% until end of 2023 so why keep obsessing over it?

POST POWELL MEMES

>>51411227
>he doesn't understand velocity
fed glowie...

>>51411177
hahaha get fucked retard

>>51411227
Velocity is a meaningless statistic, currency debasement through usury and printing is the only thing that matters.

>>51411227
>>51411168
I still see empty shelves when i go to the grocery store

>>51411159
People are buying stocks thinking they are at or near their bottom.
These sales are slowing the overall fall.

>>51411245
I'm thinking either thursday or sometime next week, depends

Before the 2008 crash oil skyrocketed. Why is it doing the exact opposite now?

>>51411209
>>51411189

You are right we are going lower but you are way too simple minded.

For starters, the inflation problem was masked by debt. Now we have a debt problem and with consumers running out of money, we will have another leg down due to earnings compression.

The cycle goes:

>Phase 1: Valuation compression
>Phase 2: Sucker rally
>Phase 3: Earnings compression
>Phase 4: Sucker rally
>Phase 5: Deleveraging (margin calls)

>>51411256
>far less money exchanging hands than being printed
>this means printing money is causing inflation
lol

>>51411245
Because if data comes out even worse than expected, it means the fed doesn't have it quite under control and their forecast is worth less, which means more risk, which means market participants reduce risk (by exiting)

>>51411056
>smash
Don't forget to like and subscribe!

Lmao dont fight the fed you stupid faggots

>>51411245
>So when do we stop selling off and panicking over CPI reports?
When investors stop chugging so much s0i lattes.

>>51411282
Yeah but fed wants 4%. So nothings really changing until then.

>>51410552
>FOMOd into AKRO this morning
>panic sold after it rapidly dipped at a 5% loss
>it then went up another 40%

Inflation, the non-transitory, sticky kind, is caused primarily by the hot labour market, which it's self is caused by buisnesses expanding on cheap debt and other stimulus induced consumer demand.

Financial conditions will tighten until a crash in employment demand, then inflation will ease and the fed will pivot.

Supply issues exacerbate this, but the underlying In core inflation is constant and intrinsic to the buisness cycle

>>51411281
>he still thinks inflation wasn't primarily caused by the fed's policies of overprinting

>>51411279
so where the fuck are we right now? it hasn't even fucking started, or are we at the fucking margin calls?

>>51411125
THREE
>NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

>>51411250

STOP FUCKING SELLING

>>51411299
>So nothings really changing until then.
>until
So the question becomes, how long will that take? The longer interest rates are high, the higher the risk for debt-dependent companies, which are responsible for a huge proportion of the stock price growth we've seen in the past 5 years.

Blood is in the shitting streets

>>51411315
>are we at the fucking margin calls?
Euro energy is lmao

what to buy? everything is sideways...

Oh God, why won't uvxy go up
I needs it
I wants it

>>51411314
correct, it wasn't
where was the 8% inflation in 2008 when your chart spiked? not correlated

>>51411315
Earnings compression, finished the first sucker rally

bearbros how you doin?
gambled on sqqq friday 42 calls at close yesterday, up 260% so far
eatin steak to-night my lads

>>51411151
12 fucking months later oh man you will have really owned me at that point

>>51411167
you get what you fucking deserve and my puts / short sales are printing because i'm not a faggot who only knows how to make money when the fed is doing QE like you

>>51411302
Why didn't you shill this earlier fucker

Remember guys if you claim the fed can cause inflation by printing too much money that is VERY anti semtic

>>51411324
>debt-dependent companies
Like which? Apple and amazon arent debt dependent.

>>51411329
So whens the next suckers rally? october?

Pretty comfy today

>>51411332
i'm sure you will fail to take profit, again, and blow up your account for the third time this year

Calls.

>>51411332
that smug bird

>>51411340
It will be chaos before Christmas, timing depends on catalysts

>>51411314
>> fed's policies of overprinting
It's not going to change. To many corporations on welfare, to many brown people needing gibs.

get me out of my calls please! i missed my chance earlier

>>51411305
This has nothing to do with labour or supply at this point. This is psychologically ingrained deep rooted inflation born of expectations.

The kind you're talking about was it's origin, and will come into play once more once the railroads bring the nation to a halt in 4 days.

>>51411337
Of course blue chip companies aren't debt-dependent, almost by definition. I'm not going to list out for you all the companies that became overvalued in the past 5 years, it's easier to just say "everything except apple and amazon." Pretty much any company outside the dow 30, take your pick.

lol

SIGA bronies, how confident are you that FDA approval is happening soon?

>>51411374
Yeah but arent most tech companies issuing shares and taking cash from VC's to primarily raise funds? They dont really care about loans from a bank.

Thanks for the free money, mumu cucks.

Bobos will inherit the earth and fuck your women.

>>51411363
We've been pumping since 2008 and kicked it into overdrive since the pandemic. We cannot sustain this printing.
>50% of all bills printed since 2008
>25% of all bills printed since 2020
this is insanity

>>51411382
I just bought calls, so pretty confident I guess.

>>51411384
im long the 402.50 calls exp 9/23

>>51411363
Wow I dont know if that pic is better or worse than 43's "Mission Accomplished"

DOW BREAKS UNDER 31,500. POTENTIAL BOUNCE INCOMING.

>>51411382
I’m so far down on my $40 strike March ‘23 calls that any positive news would be good for me.

I just suddenly got another $1200 in margin out of nowhere. The Jews are trying to bait me aren't they?

>>51411332
Aren't you saying things are totally fucked? How can YoY inflation reading be at 2-3%, if things are fucked?
If I'm correct (I am), then now is the time to be buying things and averaging down, not JUST shorting the fucking market. You're talking like the only time to be a buyer, is when everything is neon green.
How much further can the fed raise rates at this point?

>>51411305
>>51411365
nah its the fed

Which canadian apps or providers offer options trading?
Wealthsimple a fat stinky shit

Is it safe to buy AMD or should I wait till it hits $71

>>51411381
>robinhood
>iphone
One, nothing wrong with me
Two, something wrong with me

>>51411414
my margin was higher this am as well, i have noticed that a few times now...

>>51411326
LOL LMAO

>>51411414
So which group of heebs did this to these old, boomer hippy jews?

>>51411414
They're trying to prop it up.

How do you folks reconcile the fact that this is a game for elites and your participation is literally designed for the elites to have a larger pool of money to manipulate? Why do you even play?

>>51411365
>once the railroads bring the nation to a halt in 4 days.
NSC and UNP already down 2%

2008 to 2021 was a bull trap

>>51411426
Fuck it's becoming so obvious

>>51411394

We easily can, it'll just mean the Fed owns the entire bond market.

We are nowhere near the true shitstorm yet. Sooner or later the US is destined to become Brazil.

>>51411442
>The normies have not even heard about this yet... we still have retail to dump its bags when news hits them.

>>51411341
>Pretty comfy today
I bearly slept last night, those fucking futures were so green I thought for sure I was going to stop loss out at opening bell. And now we're down 3%
Im just wondering if this is the little spook that starts the big one

>>51410552

>>51411440
Because the elites are retarded and it's easy to beat them if you're not an NPC.

>>51411440
>nearly 10% return each year for s&p 500 for the last 30 years
>only elites can make money with this manipulated game!!!
lol

>>51411277
We're not in 2008, we're in the bastard child of 2001 and 1981.

>>51411440
gambling addiction

>>51411326
>+9.3%
>why won't it go up

>>51411432
>$13c
this is what happens when you don't understand contango

>>51411442
Sounds like a Slurp

>>51411391
VCs? Yes, sure. Issuing shares? Definitely not, share dilution is not common at all.
>loans from banks
I don't know what proportion of funding comes from this, but I'm guessing it's nonzero, simply because the market still very much reacts negatively to higher interest rates. I know that's circular reasoning in the context of our discussion, but Wall St controls the vast majority of price movement, and if interest rates didn't matter, Wall St would know and the market wouldn't be doing what it's doing.

I moved some fucking money into the fucking 2 year treasuries. I mean it's way better getting 3.5% than taking a fucking 50% or more loss.

>>51411449
It can't be that bad, US doesn't have murderous cartels running throughout the streets yet and posting their gore videos online.

we're probably gonna get a nice bounce before eod

>>51411447
it's always on these "special fun days" too

Fucking idiots still trying to buy the dip. We are far from the bottom. hahahaha

>>51411394
It only becomes a problem in nation start using a different currency for energy purchases. And the USA will go to war to prevent that.

Wait so you guys weren't all in SPXS and SDOW? I thought you were memeing...

Is this it?

Is this where the real shitstorm starts?

>inflation higher
>BTC plummets -8%

I thought crypto shit was an inflation hedge? What's the inflation hedge then? Just TIPS is there really nothing else? Preferably an ETF if it exists.

>>51411470
>Issuing shares? Definitely not, share dilution is not common at all.
Uh what do you think the employee comp programs all are? The company creates shares to sell to employees instead of paying them. Thats why all the tech bros talk about their total comps being 265k or whatever. The company is airdropping shares on them.

Here we goooo

>>51411471
What happened to your puts?

>>51411482
Sorry I am all in SOXS

Better risk reward ratio

>>51410552
why is the forest quiet at night

Did you get HOOKED.COM anon?

IM SURE IT WILL BOUNCE RIGHT BACK BRO!

>>51411495
Theres no such thing as an inflation hedge because central banking raises interest rates during inflationary regimes

>>51411495
Crypto always has been and always will be a Ponzi scheme.

mumu's need to put their rally caps on now i need spy at 399.00 - 399.50

>>51411440
because I was inherited mutual funds as a kid and am a NEET that never worked a day in his life. I never asked for this, I have no choice but to participate in it.

>>51411471
>3.5% yield.
>Inflation 8.5%.
>Making money on treasuries.
Sus.

>>51411495
crypto has been captured by wallstreet since last year. Bitcoin sold off on a bad jobs report once. Because crypto has a lot of jobs somehow.

>>51411416
This is a zoomers brain on zero life experience outside of a bull run. LMAO

>>51411471
Unless you plan on holding for 2 years you're retarded. Bonds are collapsing worse than stocks.

>>51411495
>What's the inflation hedge then?
A guillotine

>>51411279
>>51411329
One thing I've been worrying about is the deleveraging is going to hit housing HARD. And because those retards never stopped their CDO shit, it'll hit financials too. This is GFC-lite.

>>51411515
>never worked a day in his life
kek not for long

>>51411487
>we may have another sell off this afternoon... and no we got a couple more legs to go down.

>>51411518
Inflation doesnt actually take your money in the bank. It only impacts you if you spend money. If all he buys is gas and some food hes not taking the full 8% hit. His cash isnt reduced by 8% at eoy.

>>51411518
Inflation probably won’t be 8.5% from here onwards

>>51411498
Even assuming that's common, for some growing venture with 1k employees or something, that's not going to add up to a ton of stock. 200k of stock is nothing. That might amount to like a percentage point of dilution per year. And besides, we weren't talking about employee comps, we were talking about issuing shares to raise funding. Don't switch the goalpost to fit what you want to hear.

>>51411495
>buttcoin
Fools gold
>1yr gold down 4.34%
Nevermind

>>51411481
Well the actual linch pin in the system is the interest on the debt. Eventually it will get high enough that we won't be able to afford it and the only way to pay it off is to print and keep inflation high to make the debt less impactful.

It will force us to keep interest rates down when they need to be raised to push down inflation, just to fix the books.

>>51411541
Why is exercise at work ridiculed here?

>>51411487
I'm not hearing any music.

Ohh mumus i think we are back.
Golden bullrun continues

>>51410614
>everyone working
>labor shortage
>40% increase in deaths from 2020
The vax is working. Its trimming the fat.

>>51411495
>>51411511
>>51411531

Wrong general for this, but unironically boomer rocks (gold) will be the best long-term inflation hedge with no credit risk.

>>51411545
>Inflation doesnt actually take your money in the bank. It only impacts you if you spend money. If all he buys is gas and some food hes not taking the full 8% hit. His cash isnt reduced by 8% at eoy.
His purchasing power is reduced by 5%. Not to mention you're lending money to a highly indebted government running a significant budget deficit a -5% yield is surely worth the credit risk.

>>51411558
>Don't switch the goalpost to fit what you want to hear.
Im not switching goalposts. Private equity issues new shares all the time dude. Thats how they bring in new investors. Its for both raising funds and paying employees. How else do they get VC funds if not issuing shares.

>>51411487
>Is this where the real shitstorm starts?
Im seriously debating now, I just passed the screenshot rule but fundamentally this shit show needs to drop another 17%, I just don't think theyll let it happen before midterms
set stop losses now or let it ride, let me slide, just another homicide

>>51411522
It's the same with gold, really.
In times of record inflation of fiat money, it appears fiat money is the most popular thing to hold.

Now you can try to theorize why this is, but in reality it's because the vast majority of people are panicky retards.

>>51411487
Shitstorm starts when credit freezes up. We're not there yet.

>>51411578
>the music for the past two months https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR_8gpJCT4I

>>51411524
>LOOK HE ZOOM ZOOM
Nice rebuttal, faggot.

>>51411527
>Unless you plan on holding for 2 years you're retarded
Well that just so happens to be the fucking plan.

>>51410863
real answer, most people like the reassurance that even if their trade is poor they can just wait a while and eventually sell for profit since lol market only go up
that force works inversely for shorts, time's against you unless you're shorting AQB

>>51411545
> It only impacts you if you spend money.
This isn’t the right way to think about it. The nominal value stays the same but the real value decreases. Hold your money in bank for a decade and you won’t be happy because it obviously will be less valuable due to inflation

>>51411585
No it's not. Every single asset is propped up by liquidity. Ger your schizo cope out of here

>>51411553
And how do you propose the US government will service the debt?

>>51411592
They don't create new shares; they have a pile of unissued shares owned by the company itself, and they sell those to venture capital.

I'm a SIGGER once more but hopefully not for too long. I just want to see a little green today. Probably going to sell tomorrow but if it can give me eben one dollar today I'll forgive it for not going to the moon.

>>51411590
If hes buying equities with that money then its not a big deal. Equities crash what 20% his cash is then able to buy equities. He gets to buy equities with a bonus premium of the gains he got from bonds.
Also,
>muh budget deficity
US treasuries are risk free doomer. Theyre not going to default and the deficit is no where near unmanageable.
>>51411611
Real value vs what you intend to buy. If hes intending to buy stocks then cash and bonds is fine. Its like crypto pairs. You lost on usd but gained on sats/gwei so to speak. Doing 2 year notes lets you buy more apple stock so to speak at the end vs just holding cash.

DOW -900
NASDAQ -500

>>51411622
Cannabis tax through legalization

>>51411605
shut up and lurk moar

The S&P 500 will be flat for the decade of the 2020s.

>>51411653
and now we're going to get 100bps to nail the coffin closed

>>51411585
Gold is down in the last 2 years. Does it mean we had deflation in the last two years? In the last year? Also no? So what the fuck are you talking about, is gold suddenly gonna start following inflation now?

>>51411622
Honestly I think they will ignore it for now. They are going to jack up rates to fix inflation and just ignore the % of interest creeping slowly higher

>>51411654
DUDE

LMAO INTC VALUE INVESTING LMAO INTC VALUE INVESTING LMAO INTC VALUE INVESTING LMAO INTC VALUE INVESTING

CHECK HIM INDEX

PRICE IS NOT NORMALLY

>>51411660
https://youtu.be/nGy9uomagO4

Well fucking played wall street. huge run up day after day, have everyone think it will pump MORE on CPI but then dump it all. what was the inflation number anyways? dont tell me it was worse than last month.

>>51411568
Couldn't they raise taxes as a back door? Then they can keep interest rates low. I mean, when the government collects taxes they could just take it out behind the Fed and burn it.

>>51411640
>Biggest issue for #Palantir ( $PLTR ):
>Dilution
>Shares outstanding when it went public: 905.4M
>Shares outstanding as of Q2: 1.89B
>~100% increase in shares!
>Good news is that the amount of stock based compensation (source of >dilution) is trending down.
Just an example.
>>51411622
They pay it back lol. Not sure why you think they cant.

>>51411660
I unironically believe this, which is why I'll short VIX futures instead.

>>51411668
My only mistake was being poor

>impossible to service debt at high rates

Just have to increase revenue.
Increased taxation can also reduce demand and allow for looser financial policy

>>51411622
Same thing as QE, they will literally pull something made up out of their ass and say it’s the new policy

>>51411678
The problem is that taxes fuck the economy over worse than anything else.

NEW

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>>51411676
see
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>>51411702
Demand-destruction has a way of harming economies

>>51411649
>If hes buying equities with that money then its not a big deal. Equities crash what 20% his cash is then able to buy equities. He gets to buy equities with a bonus premium of the gains he got from bonds.
I'm not sure you're aware but bonds are in a bear market so you ain't making any money holding long term.
>US treasuries are risk free doomer. Theyre not going to default and the deficit is no where near unmanageable.
They aren't risk free. I'm not saying they'll default what i'm proposing is a continuation of the trend of negative real interest rates meaning you're paying for the privilege to lend to the US government.

>>51411684
>company sample size: 1
And also, PLTR is a complete joke of a company, which is why it crashed long before everything else and before inflation was even the problem.

Regardless, I don't know what else to tell you. Your investment thesis seems to be "higher interest rates don't matter because companies don't use debt, they issue shares instead, and I'm the first person to realize this and Wall St hasn't realized it." If so, congratulations, enjoy your billions if it works out. In the meantime, I'll be shorting the market when it goes down and buying when it has reason to go up.

>>51411666
>>Is this where the real shitstorm starts?
As soon as the currency war ends and the US dollar wins it will start to slide down knowing it is the king turd... gold and silver will then moon.

>>51411676
Overall inflation is down slightly.
Inflation minus energy and food is up.

Guess which one the Fed will now take into account for their rate hikes lol

>>51411649
>Real value vs what you intend to buy. If hes intending to buy stocks then cash and bonds is fine.
I see what you mean but from a practical perspective this forces you to time the market. Now Usd has gained relative to stocks but how long will that last. Meanwhile inflation continues and generally always does

>>51411666
>>51411621
>long term

Yes it's at a bad price now, it will go lower with stocks. Cash is king right now.

However, it will recover faster and harder than stocks when we reach recovery phase, in a few years.

In the GFC, gold tanked a bit before the rally, but it severely outperformed the market for several years until the bull run was established

Yes I agree gold is shit, if you have a brain you can make so much more with anything else, it's hard to move an asset with 10T+ mkt cap

But if you fear a credit crisis, and you don't want cash, stocks, bonds, or property, it ensures you will always have "some" value in the future

>>51411790
>Meanwhile inflation continues and generally always does
Inflation isn't generally at 8+% lmao

>>51411661
It’ll be 75.
Easy money.

>>51411763
rmbr what happened to gold and silver the last time the dollar slid metalbitch? they just made it illegal to have any. metalets will never make it.

What if AAPL goes bankrupt in a couple of years during the depression? Look at how much debt they have.

>>51411819
I didn’t say it is. But there is usually some inflation, the target is 2%

>>51411047
pathetic, enjoy mommy's home cooked casserole you fucking faggot

>>51411553
I feel like I heard last month that CPI had peaked and was cooling, which is why everyone got their panties in a knot over Powell's Jackson Hole speech. Fast forward to today and CPI increased 0.1% with core CPI raising 0.6%. When we finally get several consecutive drops, I'll believe it, but not until then.

>>51410552
what the heck is he thinking bros?

>>51412578
"I told them inflation hadn't peaked. Foolish of them to have doubted me."

fuck meta was the short today.. shoulda went with inverse cramer...