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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shutdown/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. When P2Pool reaches 51% of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET!

If you have a PC or laptop:

1. Download Monero GUI
https://i.imgur.com/ZGefPef.png

2. Pick 'Advanced' mode
https://i.imgur.com/4c0uSE4.png

3. Set up your wallet
https://i.imgur.com/4lMKh00.png

4. Keep the default Daemon settings "Start a node automatically in the background"
https://i.imgur.com/maACmmT.png

5. Once sync'd, go to Advanced->Mining and pick 'P2Pool'. If you have a laptop or low-end PC (~50 kH/s) pick "Mini" pool, else pick "Main"
https://i.imgur.com/E60JeMG.png


>YOU CAN USE P2POOL-COMPATIBLE REMOTE NODES IF YOU DO NOT HAVE YOUR OWN LOCAL COPY OF THE BLOCKCHAIN
https://xmrvsbeast.com/p2pool/monero_nodes.html


OTHERWISE SWITCH TO A SMALLER POOL, IT TAKES YOU 30 SECONDS AND YOU CAN JUST SOURCE A DIFFERENT CONFIG FILE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FUCK UP YOUR EXISTING ONE.

Many inexperienced miners think that big pools give better profits which is not the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
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Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
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- added a new section about traceability FUD

wat is make it stack

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://monero.com/marketplace
https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/
https://acceptedhere.io/catalog/currency/xmr/

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (currently US only)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors

>AlphaBay
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market (recently launched, exercise caution)
>Cloud Market (recently launched, exercise caution)
>Dark Matter (recently launched, exercise caution)
>Darkmoon (recently launched, exercise caution)
>FilthyFellas
>Mellow Market (recently launched, exercise caution)
>Retro Market (recently launched, exercise caution)
Onion links: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/bggcv


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Kilos
>Majestic Bank (exercise caution, possibly exit-scamming)
>Elude
>Infinity Project
https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/8cunb


>Poker Club: play no-limit Texas Hold'em in real time with 2-8 players over the safety of Tor with the privacy of Monero! No user account required.
http://pokerggxmrvzecuo6afhucjwdljuve5eoavxdxdr6zedyejd6mvz5wad.onion

>XMR Poker
http://xmrpoker3icphjr7c6dgct3by44ph4xvxrds4jzwjkjh7h2owdf6icyd.onion


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://magicgrants.org/funds/monero/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

Which crypto wallet do you recommend for holding Monero.

>The irrational exuberance of cryptocurrency investors

Irrational exuberance is characterized as a hype-fueled mania that causes investors to massively overestimate an asset's real-world value. In this delusional state, investors tend to become so smitten with expectations of greater profits that they disregard the assets’ potentially weak fundamentals and drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.

This then leads to them recklessly and repeatedly buying into whatever asset is currently rising in the charts, thereby triggering and/or sustaining an asset bubble. This bubble is kept inflated solely by the mass delusion that the market price is justified and will only keep going up in future, effectively becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Note that bubbles can last for years, especially in an age of easy investor on-boarding. However, when history inevitably repeats and the bubble bursts that optimism invariably turns into panic as the asset crashes back down to its real-world value.

In finance, the "greater fool theory" suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets—items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value—if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.

In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, hoping that he can sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit. This only works as long as there are enough new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value, which in some cases could be zero.

This effect is often further exacerbated by herd mentality, whereby people hear stories of others who bought in early and made big profits, causing those who did not buy to feel a fear of missing out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g

>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

>>51282632
>wat is make it stack

>>51282667
>Which crypto wallet do you recommend for holding Monero.

Feather

The one true crypto

>>51282699
Nearly half way to the break it stack, bros.

IT dressing FU?g

You didn't use the new pasta, delete this abortion of a thread and try again.

Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Binance
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Kucoin
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
Exodus
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

Reporting in
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IRC- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/tzm4s
Aliases- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/bjbx3
Extras- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/daxte
Nodes- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/ke2k8
Mining- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/c7na4

Been solo mining with XMRIG on a solo pool for about 2 weeks now with a hash rate of 22k H, still no block yet, odds are like 1-200 hopefully I’ll luck out one of these days.

What happens when government pressure forces all fiat on-ramp exchanges to delist monero?

>>51283529

DEXs are currently being developed for that very reason.

>>51283329
Just use p2pool.

is XMR a good way to mitigate inflation?

>>51282683
Can someone explain how bitcoin will handle halvings after 2044 if there only 8 decimal digits?

>>51285113
It won't.
The entire muh limited supply is stupid.
In the entire human existence there wasn't a single working example of capped currency.

MONEROMARKET.IO

>>51282570

Does anyone have banner style XMR meme/pic/gif that can be used as an ad similarly to the 4chan ads at the top of boards/threads?

>>51285113
I think that halving will be 9,765,625 Satoshi's per block. The next one will presumably simply round down the half-satoshi (which can't exist), becoming 4882812 per block, and not 4882812.5 per block. Whether the original value is used and then rounded, or if each value is used in sequence hardly seems too important.

Ultimately, satoshis really are small enough. It's fine. The bigger concern with block halving is when the amount made per block is simply too small to matter, or zero, both of which will eventually happen. At that point, the hope is that bitcoin will continue based on the mining fees. If a bitcoin is worth what would today be millions of dollars, then that's a good bet. If it's not worth that, the entire network will be easy to attack.

Note that a future version of bitcoin could always simply copy Monero and adopt tail emission, but it would be in the best interest of the bitcoin core guys (or those who pick up that work in the future) to not mention that until the last minute.

>>51286067
In that case, if we use rounding down/up the total supply won't be exact 21m, or I misunderstood something?

What's going on with Wownero ??

it is september my basterds

>>51282570
when it comes to privacy, Monero and sylo comes to my mind, i know some fags here are way fucking retarded to understand that.

>>51287117
>when it comes to privacy, Monero and this random shitcoin comes to my mind, i know some fags here are way fucking retarded to understand that.

sexo con monero-chan

>>51282622
But anon, what should I buy to get highest hashrate and lowest watt count? I don't want to contribute a mere 1 hash per century on a RPi.

>>51288013
Sim.

>>51284663
>is XMR a good way to mitigate inflation?
once the fed pivots back to QE.

>>51289000

>>51288574
https://xmrig.com/benchmark

Why are transactions so down?
Did some DM got shut down or something?

>>51293662
I think they just look low because there was a large spike as MineXMR paid out pending balances and then txs immediately plunged back to regular numbers, leading into something of a trough. We're basically around the same lows we saw earlier in the summer.

Worth keeping an eye on, though.

>>51282833
> he disclosed NGMI

any more anonymous coins i can use anons i only know of xmr and vinu

>>51294727
Read the thread. Stylo.

>>51294727
Stop doing crime!

Anyone have experience buying a pass with XMR? What would be the best way of doing it? I'm in the US so some exchanges will likely won't let me their services.

nitter.net/rizzn/status/1566555742110351363#m

Only more reasons to use Monero and only more reasons to never ever reveal you use crypto to anyone.
Permanent record (bitocin) is a bitch, you never know when the govt will go nuts. The less information, the better.

>>51295585
What is a pass? Like 420 or something?

>>51295585
Yeah using an instant exchange in cake wallet is seamless.

>>51283940
Please explain to a simple peasant what DEX is

>>51295585
1- Connect to a VPN that talks out of pretty much any other country besides the USA.
2- Once connected, grab Exodus wallet, or any other wallet that supports one of the many non-Monero cryptos that 4chan takes. Load that, and save your seed words somewhere safe like normal. You don't need to use Exodus, of course, but you do need a remote wallet that won't make you sync some whole blockchain and doesn't speak outside of this VPN.
3- Assume you want to use Bitcoin, which 4chan pass accepts. Go into Exodus, and get a bitcoin receiving address.
4- Go to fixedfloat. Tell it how much bitcoin you need (not a lot), and tell it your bitcoin receiving address. It will provide you with a Monero send address.
5- Send your small amount of Monero to that address.
6- Now you have a small amount of litecoin not attached to your monero by anything that knows who you are.
7- Pay for your 4chan pass with that litecoin via Exodus wallet.

You could also put the VPN and Exodus in a virtual machine, but I suspect that would be overkill (it would be overkill versus passive observers trying to break everyone's privacy, and it wouldn't stop like a nation state trying to track you)

>>51295585
1- Connect to a VPN that talks out of pretty much any other country besides the USA.
2- Once connected, grab Exodus wallet, or any other wallet that supports one of the many non-Monero cryptos that 4chan takes. Load that, and save your seed words somewhere safe like normal. You don't need to use Exodus, of course, but you do need a remote wallet that won't make you sync some whole blockchain and doesn't speak outside of this VPN.
3- Assume you want to use Bitcoin, which 4chan pass accepts. Go into Exodus, and get a bitcoin receiving address.
4- Go to fixedfloat. Tell it how much bitcoin you need (not a lot), and tell it your bitcoin receiving address. It will provide you with a Monero send address.
5- Send your small amount of Monero to that address.
6- Now you have a small amount of litecoin not attached to your monero by anything that knows who you are.
7- Pay for your 4chan pass with that bitcoin via Exodus wallet.

You could also put the VPN and Exodus in a virtual machine, but I suspect that would be overkill (it would be overkill versus passive observers trying to break everyone's privacy, and it wouldn't stop like a nation state trying to track you)

>>51295585
1- Connect to a VPN that talks out of pretty much any other country besides the USA.
2- Once connected, grab Exodus wallet, or any other wallet that supports one of the many non-Monero cryptos that 4chan takes. Load that, and save your seed words somewhere safe like normal. You don't need to use Exodus, of course, but you do need a remote wallet that won't make you sync some whole blockchain and doesn't speak outside of this VPN.
3- Assume you want to use Bitcoin, which 4chan pass accepts. Go into Exodus, and get a bitcoin receiving address.
4- Go to fixedfloat. Tell it how much bitcoin you need (not a lot), and tell it your bitcoin receiving address. It will provide you with a Monero send address.
5- Send your small amount of Monero to that address.
6- Now you have a small amount of bitcoin not attached to your monero by anything that knows who you are.
7- Pay for your 4chan pass with that bitcoin via Exodus wallet.

You could also put the VPN and Exodus in a virtual machine, but I suspect that would be overkill (it would be overkill versus passive observers trying to break everyone's privacy, and it wouldn't stop like a nation state trying to track you)

The king shitcoin himself is now below 20k USD and still losing dominance.

May he rest in piss along with the other surveillance chains.

>>51282570
MyMonero is supposed to be deleted from this. Don’t start generals if you can’t update the OP.

>>51297775
>exodus wallet

Gtfo of here and go back to your lunc containment thread faggot

>>51297149
Damn that’s scary can you give a run down on what can get you in this amount of trouble messing with crypto and how can I avoid them it seems like the windows of opportunities are closing

>>51299114
Agreed. Exodus is nasty as fuck.

>>51299256
they are working to build case precedent that one can be held responsible for accepting cash in trade for crypto.

the only 3 viable holdings right now

>>51299666
>satanic digits
what's the green "bit"

>>51297775
>>51295585
exodus sucks dick, i understand it works for this situation but still.
if you go with this route, go with cake wallet which has a btc and ltc wallet built in.
4chan pass also accepts ltc which has lower fees.>>51295585

>>51299707
I still use it for other shit. feather is for my xmr though.

>>51299114
>>51299707
I've tested this kind of thing with exodus and it works great!

But hey, if you hate exodus, why don't you list what you use? You know, since we're here to offer tips on how to convert from Monero to something that 4chan takes, which means your best bet is DEFINITELY to use a wallet that doesn't need to sync a whole fucking blockchain. So any remote wallet will do. And even for something silly like this, you want something where you have the keys.

So what do you use? What would be faster and easier than Exodus? Also note that Exodus supports literally everything 4chan takes (plus Monero, though I didn't recommend converting in-wallet because it has huge minimums and high af fees, plus you have one more node in your security path that would know TWO things about you instead of the requisite ONE).

So what's your suggestions?

>>51299707
>>51299773
I use monero-wallet-gui myself but also interested in a multi asset wallet that's a good alternative to something like exodus (which is shit because closed source). not to keep monero in, but for other coins when appropriate

>>51300701
the only other multi that I know of would be metamask, though that is totally corpo. Any large hodl is in my trezor. so while exodus is closed source, they don't get the private key for what is important.

>>51297775
And then when you’re done jumping through those hoops to maintain anonymity, use a honeypot website that tracks literally everything you post, and continue larping as a secret agent while secret agents laugh at you.

>>51300880
Quit posting v for venfaggot stuff. Makes me want to sell everything

>>51300701
just use dedicated wallets for each coin, multi coin wallets IMO are a bad idea.

>>51302469
you ok there anon? what kind of feel you have there?
>yurop
ahhhh, got it.

>>51286454
The supply isn’t exactly 21M anyway. It’s a known thing that it’s slightly less. It is well documented that the supply isn’t precisely 21M. But it’s extremely close.

>-10%
The fuck just happened?

>>51303839
Not sure. Some whales decided to dump today for some reason.

>>51303839
>>51303854
Sounds like a whale got harpooned on binance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05bsK4eRzfw

Fuck you Paypal, you corrupt KYC piece of shit. Stop asking for my personal information! Hackers sell Paypal's customers information online. Fuck the kikes behind Payal. Stop using Paypal, it is ancient tech. Who the hell uses Paypal in 2022? Stupid ass mother fuckers. I hope Paypal goes bankrupt and dies a forgotten death.

The Jews fear XMR. Every time you buy XMR, the Jew screams in pain. The nosy Jew wants to know your wallet amount but he can't. Stand against the glowie Jew, stack your XMR.

The Jews cannot stop the parallel economy. You can live off XMR using gift cards. Food, stuff from Amazon, gas, plane tickets and hotels. You will never need to cash out your XMR. You just buy the things you need with XMR.

Jews have been kicked out of 110 countries because they're slimely subversive little fucks. Sam Bankman-Fried (born March 6, 1992) is such a Jew that steals funds from his customers.

The Jews hate people who own XMR.

>>51306114
>>51306122
Cringe.

>>51297775
>1- Connect to a VPN that talks out of pretty much any other country besides the USA.
2- Once connected, grab Exodus wallet, or any other wallet that supports one of the many non-Monero cryptos that 4chan takes. Load that, and save your seed words somewhere safe like normal. You don't need to use Exodus, of course, but you do need a remote wallet that won't make you sync some whole blockchain and doesn't speak outside of this VPN.
3- Assume you want to use Bitcoin, which 4chan pass accepts. Go into Exodus, and get a bitcoin receiving address.
4- Go to fixedfloat. Tell it how much bitcoin you need (not a lot), and tell it your bitcoin receiving address. It will provide you with a Monero send address.
5- Send your small amount of Monero to that address.
6- Now you have a small amount of bitcoin not attached to your monero by anything that knows who you are.
7- Pay for your 4chan pass with that bitcoin via Exodus wallet.

You could also put the VPN and Exodus in a virtual machine, but I suspect that would be overkill (it would be overkill versus passive observers trying to break everyone's privacy, and it wouldn't stop like a nation state trying to track you)

>>51294727
zcash is the best. xmr is only for stupid weeb faggots and will go nowhere.

>>51306511
privacy so good no one uses it

>>51306511
bait

>>51306699
better than moneros privacy. the project also has a lot more money to pay devs. It will win in the long run. Only stupid bag holders will disagree

>>51306837
There's a reason zcash has dev fee.
Whilst the privacy might be better or equally as good. Monero has a lot more to offer than just private transactions.

Still falling for the bait, I know:-(

guys wtf is going on? p2pool is not paying me for a week now.

>>51306932
Are you sure you updated your node/wallet? Mine is working just fine.

>>51306956
based on the p2pmin site i'm finding shares alright and based on the node info i'm fully synced (height 2706625).

>>51306918
what more does it have to offer?

>>51306979
Not sure what to tell you other than to double check your wallet/node versions. Maybe try rebooting everything? Hard to say without more information on your setup

>>51307058
for now just running the 0.18.1.0 gui wallet
had 1 payout and nada since. maybe it's all normal just need to wait more idk.

>>51307152
p2pool version is 2.2.1 btw. i see there is 2.2.3 now but i don't see any indication of compatibility issues.

Please talk me out of goind all-in into xmr. I just can't find any value in btc anymore.

>>51309770
>Please talk me out of goind all-in into xmr.
I cant talk you out of it cuz I could not talk myself out of it.

Nonetheless, do not have more than 63% of you NW in one asset.

>>51309770
i'm the opposite can't see how monero could possibly scale without script.

>>51309861
75% XMR and 25% BTC

I don't know what else to even get. I'm through with ETH and it's overcharging on transaction fees.

>>51310177
>I don't know what else to even get.
Based upon the incoming collapse — Gold and silver, land (the good kind, especially with potable water) and long term food (and storage for it). Survival gear, weapons (& ammunition) to defend yourself, family and the land.
Optionally but not unimportant, get some physical and valuable, wise books. Also a calisthenics home gym and some weights to stay fit.

After all this, congratulations. You're more prepared than 99% of the population.

>>51309770

XMR, like BTC is a store of value, and a medium of exchange. Good to hodl, as nobody can see it. Intangible is a feature, not a fault. Keeps the glowies at bay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHwlPaTetyo

>>51309895
The core devs can worry about scalability once we consistently hit those thresholds. The current roadmap is to get Seraphis one and done. Seraphis/Jamtis addresses usability, while ensuring privacy. "What good is a cryptocurrency, if you can't use it?"

>>51310568
i can't be bullish on monero until i see it can scale to be used by billions. bitcoin provably can with decent privacy (not perfect but fedimints do work even for people without a decent internet or the ability to run a node). bitcoin can also do stuff like physical l2 notes that are bearer assets as they generate and store their private keys and spv proofs and pow attestations. so you can verify them offline with simple hardware.

>>51310740
the thing that allows bitcoin to really scale in a very trust minimized manner is covenants which are new advanced script primitives basically. i have no idea how long zk proofs can go and if bitcoin can do zk rollups does that mean monero can add them as well? that would be bullish af.

>>51310740
>(not perfect but fedimints do work even for people without a decent internet or the ability to run a node)
Fediments are an old idea that have already been tried and failed. Also, the "federated" part of Fediments is just a polite way of saying centralized.

>>51311273
it's actually more decentralized than chaumian mints and what was missing from chaumian mints before is them being connected over the lightning network for instant settlement.

in this setup they have never been tried before. and there are ways to improve the concept with new scripting primitives. we could do n of n ms with covenant based on-chain payment pools as fallback that can settle or reorganize and form a new federation (same for merge and split or just shedding uncooperative participants with log2(n) onchain operations)

>>51311385
the only thing i see for monero if zk-starks somehow allow it to use zk-rollups without script. however the whole zk-rollup thing has the achilles heel of data availability. which makes sense for eth as the contract execution time is more significant than the bandwith and storage cost for them (for now). i simply have no idea how this could help monero yet. in theory you can aggregate the witness (signature) data for a lot of off-chain operations with zk proofs.

seems to me mimblewimble is simply better at that in the context because it allows for non-interactive aggregation and better pruning.

what is a good monero mobile app if any?

>>51311842
Monerujo if you're based.
Cake/monero dot com if you want to use monero to pay with giftcards.

>>51311385
>>51311588
Any further improvements won't be considered until Seraphis has hard forked. It is a much needed improvement to Monero to provide "Bitcoin like" sync, further features to assist in atomic swaps as well as merchant features, all while adhering to "privacy by default". TPS isn't a concern if we can't get the merchants to start using it. My prior picrel was showing the increased fee when the dynamic block size kicked in during the hard fork weekend.
As far as being bullish, I see XMR shining as everything goes to shit, which it has for some years now. The rent seekers are getting aggressive, and will regress society to hold their position.

>>51306122
checked and based

>>51299702
bitdao

>>51297775
the fuck isthis? nigga just use cake wallet lmfao

>>51306311
What's wrong with these steps? The question is, how to spend Monero to buy a 4chan pass, and 4chan pass doesn't take Monero. This lets you turn your Monero into something 4chan pass takes, without accessing a transparent blockchain from your public IP.

>>51314914
>cake wallet
yeah nty I don't trust zoomer tiktok spyware shit

>>51314914
daily reminder that all cake wallet shills and users are assfucking faggots.

>>51309770
I too could not talk myself out of it. currently, i have a lot of trouble justifying putting money into any asset that isnt xmr. like any.
like if your a poor fag, why would you buy pms? to "preserve" your pennies? sounds fking stupid to me. basically 0 potential for upwards movement.

>>51316445
y

>>51316623
>like any.
Same.
PMs? Nothing to perserve
Saying account? 20% inflation is going to rape me anyway.
Property? Lol nobody has money for that.
Even if crypto crashes it won't make any difference to me.
There isn't currently other to save up for anything apart from crypto and we all know xmr is the least sketchy crypto( I ain't buying animal coins nor king shitcoin)

>>51316795
If you are not stacking silver you are retarded.

>>51317003
>he fell for the silver meme
HAHAHHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAA

>>51317900
>he fell for the silver meme
>HAHAHHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAA

>>51317003
not paying a 25% premium sorry

>>51317003
Nobody is going to trade silver for food or resources like you think

>>51318302
At all other times they did, but this time they won't. Why is that?

>>51318258
Buy 100oz bars, poorfag.

>>51318302
>Nobody is going to trade silver for food or resources like you think

>>51318302
I make and hord bullets too. So plata o plomo?

>>51318736
*hoard.

>>51318736
>>51318787
Your mom's a hoard

>>51299702
BitDAO
they have the largest treasury in the market right now
i think they’re the 29th largest ETH holder too

>>51301129
everyone has to start somewhere

>>51317003
>stacking silver
I only hold a couple months. hodling anymore is just safekeeping for the treas. goy if you don't have a setup for generational wealth upon death. better to let xmr become "lost coin". Lost coin from death bolsters the liquidity floor, as such coins can't respond to market conditions.
see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHwlPaTetyo

this coin is dead and crabbing. lol enjoy your bags.

#lunc

>>51318585
WOW you can't afford paying a 25% up charge on your kike metal?? Are you poor???

>>51322922

Checked & kek'd

>>51317900
>>51318258
>>51318302
>>51320354
>>51321495
>>51322927

>>51322922
Your lunc is the new pic related (Tĩcker: BITCOIN). Maybe you'll get some spike, maybe you'll get fucked. Monero will be there long after no one knows what your shitcoin is.

>>51318302
you've not touched enough grass or met enough farmers anon. the primary food producers will always trade for precious metals, tools, labour, cash (assuming no collapse) and pussy

>>51324337

Platinum is more my bag.

does anyone know who created the original monerochan? Or any good artists that have done commissions?

>>51329409
monerochan.art

>>51329409
>does anyone know who created the original monerochan?

It comes from here. He actually made a whole bunch of crypto-chans but Monerochan is the only one who had any staying power.

https://crypto-currency-girls.com
https://crypto-currency-girls.com/monero/

>>51329458
thank you
>>51329781
thank you, do you know if there is any way to reach him/establish contact?

>>51329922
You can try the contact section at the bottom of the site. Not sure if he speaks English though.

>>51330156
thank you for your time and response

NIGGERS

>>51331043

>>51332032
>>51331043
Big if true

how do I buy the dead queen's leftover possessions with Monero?

>>51335423
>find seller
>send Monero
>???
>profit

>>51335423
Have some respect anon. A person has just passed.

Requiescat in Pace, Queen of England.

>>51335782
>respect

>>51310448
Based and collapsed pilled

>>51335782
i didn't have respect for the vampire queen and i certainly won't miss her but i'm also not going to celebrate her death like a psycho

>>51331043
>>51332032
What?

https://rpilocator.com/?country=US&cat=PI4

this is getting ridiculous.

I’m downloading a fresh blockchain onto tails. Last time I did this it was a problem for others in my home. Someone told me how to limit the bandwidth of the download of the node but I already forgot lol. So I’m not using GUI right now, just the monerod. Do I have to open GUI to limit the bandwidth or is there some command I can type into monerod? I just wanna buy drugs in peace so I am going full skizo and making a tails node instead of one on my laptop. It’s all forced thru tor that way.

>>51339338
Anon, why not run a node on an old computer somewhere in the house and create a hidden service for it? Running a node on Tails will probably put a lot of wear on the flash drive and has to be synced every time you turn it on, so you're looking at a lot of steps for such a simple task

>>51339338
>>51339737
To answer your question, there should be a command in there somewhere. Run ./monerod -h and it should list all the commands for you to look at

>>51282570
What’s a boomer easy way to store MONERO? I don’t want to use my phone and I don’t want to go through 10 processes where with one letter fuck up I can shit the bed.
T. Zoomer

>>51282683
Bitcoin is like diamonds confirmed. Some boomer whales will just buy it up and redistribute the bitcoins in the price they want.

>>51339788
Keep your seed in your password manager. I suggest KeePass, but my personal setup is a little boomer unfriendly.

>>51339737
I’m just not tech savvy. Just recently been going crazy with binge watching documentaries on Edward Snowden and government surveillance and shit. Just lost a job over Covid tyrrany. So I’ve been going all in on privacy and opsec and cypherpunk and crypto anarchy. I don’t want to be one of the sheep who keeps clicking ok to continue. Maybe a node on tails is kinda fucktarded from a tech savvy person’s perspective but it’s better than what most people are doing these days. The average person gives zero fucks about privacy or opsec and is ready to spill all their guts online, reveal everything about themselves to authorities especially about where all their money is and where they produce income from. And we have been stuck in this toxic relationship with our government for over 100 years. I’m just waking up to this shit in my middle age. With no real tech background. Sometimes it baffles me to hear some rather tech savvy people raise an eyebrow and get all worried when I discuss using tor and tails. They don’t give me any other answer other than “criminals use that shit”.
I’m ok with destroying a USB stick for a private node. I guess if my stick burns out within a month I’ll have to try another route but if I get enough life out of it I’ll just make another one.
I don’t know Jack about setting up “a hidden service” maybe you could point me to the right direction and I’ll switch to that after I fry my 60$ usb stick lol.

>>51339338
>>51339338
>I'm downloading a fresh blockchain onto tails

You're doing it so, SO wrong. Are you the same guy from like a month ago who I typed out an essay for explaining why TAILS is the literal worst OS you could be trying to run a node on? Are you the same guy who I gave a step-by-step guide on how to run a PROPER hidden service node?

TAILS is a system meant to boot from a USB stick and run in memory. Your entire node and all syncing progress you've made will evaporate the instant you have a brown-out or accidentally bump the power cable, run it off of a regular OS unless you want to be back here in another month doing this shit all over again.

Also, you need to either execute Monerod from the command line with the --limit-rate-up and --limit-rate-down options, or add those options to a config file and point monerod to that config file. To my knowledge there is no way to edit that while monerod is actively running. (https://monerodocs.org/interacting/monerod-reference/))

ONCE AGAIN I WILL POST THE GUIDE.
https://monerodocs.org/running-node/open-node-tor-onion/

>>51340232
B…but this guide says I can use tails

https://xmrguide.org/tails/gui/install

And this is the main article that inspired me to make a node that only runs thru tor:

https://medium.com/@ziyahanalbeniz/a-europol-officer-confessed-that-they-could-not-track-monero-xmr-transactions-dbd568f02922

I had been asking around on monero threads how to do this shit… but my laptop is all confusing and shit to rig up my nose thru tor. It kept fucking up. Adjusting shit and typing in all these different commands just didn’t work… so I though make it easy. ALL tails internet traffic runs thru tor. Install monerod on that shit and it’s user friendly as fuck. Maybe shit in other ways. But for a tech unsavvy individual like myself it’s best I’ve been able to do. I got learning issues and such. Real bad ADHD. So it’s like teaching a retard. And no I’m not sorry lol.
If my tails node works I’m gonna use it even if it makes ya mad. I don’t want europol to ever be able to find the monero. Even though… europol gives no fucks about a small fry like myself who just wants to get high.

>>51340232
The thing is you probably could put it in persistence, but why not just do it on a shit laptop or other hardware and then connect to it?

>>51340490
you know, indicating you want to break the law on a website that tracks you is probably not the best idea.

>>51340490
>>51340232
For your sake, I hope your tails node stays up 100% of the time and never has errors and I also hope you never ever have a power outage. It's one of those "it always functions, but rarely works" situations.

I should try my hand at writing some kind of something that automatically sets up onion nodes... or at least does 90% of the work...

>>51340215
It's easier than you think to create a hidden service, anon. I'll assume you're on something Debian-based for this since I haven't done it on Windows.

>run "sudo nano /etc/tor/torrc"
>add the following lines
HiddenServiceDir /var/lib/tor/your-hidden-service
HiddenServicePort 18081 127.0.0.1:18081
>press Ctrl+X, then y, then Enter to save
>run "sudo service tor restart" or reboot your computer
>run "cat /var/lib/tor/your-hidden-service/hostname"
>that's the URL for you to use with your monero wallet on Tails

For Windows hosts;
>open your Tor Browser folder
>go to Browser>TorBrowser>Data>Tor
>open torrc with notepad
>add these 2 lines
HiddenServiceDir (copy one of the other lines, but change the last bit, pic related)
HiddenServicePort 18081 127.0.0.1:18081
>save the file
>start Tor Browser
>go to the HiddenServiceDir and find the file called "hostname"
>open it, that's the link to your Hidden Service
>use that link with your Monero wallet
Downside to the Windows version is you have to leave the Tor Browser open.

I hope I haven't confused you, anon. I'll be here to answer questions or provide support for about an hour

>>51340686
>since I haven't done it on Windows.
I actually just did and forgot to remove that part, whoops. Although I don't know if there would be any weird glitches over time when running Tor this way

>>51340686
>>51340707
And my dumbass also forgot the pic. Name removed for obvious reasons, the last 2 lines are what you should write.

>>51340615
Lol I didn’t say shit about breaking a law. Other than getting high. Come in and stop me mother fucker.
Outside of that keeping my monero as private as possible is not at all a crime. Suck my dick.

>>51340631
Lol power outage? That’s your only argument against a tails node? That shit can corrupt a node on a regular laptop that don’t have a battery. I’ve already been thru about three corrupted nodes in this learning process. It fucking sucks. The last time I corrupted it was when I stupidly yanked the USB stick out like I generally do with tails. Immediately was like FUCK!! When I did that. Had about a quarter of the node downloaded. As for a power outage you just make sure you have a battery plugged in and type “stop_daemon” when an outage happens or if you anticipate it. I don’t see how having a node on a hard drive vs a USB stick makes any difference against a power outage. Either way your wifi is out.

>>51340686
I’ve probably fucked up a lot of my directory paths and shit playing around with ubuntu. The fuck is a “hidden service” anyway? I’ve got like 99% of blockchain downloaded on my regular ubuntu laptop. But I’ve not created a “hidden service” on it. Do I drop my monerod and lmdb into that hidden service once I create it? Then from there I can connect cake or feather to it remotely whenever I want wherever I’m at in the world so long as it’s turned on at home? I guess my mental image is that this hidden service directory I make runs everything thru tor like tails does???

Oh also… what are peers in my node? I remember first fucking around with a node and I let peers in at first. They say it helps fellow monero chads in the world maintain the network whereas if you disallow peers your node is just for you. I have complete shit for internet bandwidth. So once I allow peers everyone’s tv and shit stops working in the house lol.

>>51341174
A hidden service (they call it an onion service these days, I prefer the original name) is basically just a way that Tor routes traffic into your computer. If you're already running a node on Ubuntu, you should be able to follow my Debian instructions and be done.

No other config necessary, unless you run something like a website which I won't cover here (some software has features that are only accessible via localhost, which is where Tor connects to it from and can cause data leaks or worse in those cases. I'm not aware of any such issue with monerod, which wouldn't matter anyway if you don't share the link with others)

>>51341211
The peers are other nodes that you're syncing with. If they're missing blocks, they might request them from you. Like with torrenting a movie.

>>51341291
Nice, maybe I’ll try that. Is it really that much better to run my node from there than run it thru my usb stick though?? I mean either way I’m gonna try it cuz I’m a curious kitty and all knowledge is power and I’ll feel like I finally won the conquest of making monerod werk they way I want! Without cheating and just putting it on tails persistence. Thing is… my hard drive is kinda small. I fucked up with my choice of laptop and used a really old one like a decade. And the drive is about full lol. My USB stick massive compared to the hard drive lol.

>>51341314
Ah yea. I member nerds at school back in the day blowing my mind with “torrenting” and committing all kinds of copyright infringment. I just never got into it. It was before bitcoin. And it’s amazing how similar bitcoin is to torrenting.

>>51341327
USB sticks use flash memory, which gets slower the more you use it. Eventually, you'll get to a point where it takes forever to save info, then you'll get to a point where you can't write data at all. You could probably put Tails on an external hard drive and do the same thing, but without the drawbacks. External HDD's are shock sensitive though, so don't drop it while it's running.

>>51341347
They're pretty similar systems. Both are designed that way specifically to avoid being banned, since you can't easily ban something that runs on hundreds or thousands of computers

>>51282570
$150 stablecoin for maximum accomolation

>>51339924
I just want to buy the coins and store them without any bullshit lol.

>>51341812
Just physically write down your seed phrase or better yet get a little $5 engraving tool and write them down on a flat metal object (e.g. lid on a tin container) and then hide it somewhere secure. That way it's resistant to fires, unlike paper or an SSD.

Don't store your seed phrase on your computer, ever.

>>51341925
Not even keepass? I’ve been told that shit is pretty secure, and the only way someone could crack your keepass is if they tie you down and start beatin ya with a 5$ wrench.

Support your local artists

>>51341972
I commissioned this.

>>51341986
No

>>51341967
A harddrive/SSD can never be a secure storage medium both because they're physically fragile and (for 99% of people) are the same place they're storing their regular wallet anyway.

You get ten times the security and increased fire protection just getting a little cheapo electric engraver on Amazon than you do trying to use encryption to store it on your computer. It will be the best $10 you ever spent if your possessions go through a housefire.

Is my bank going to report me to the IRS if i withdraw 5000 usd cash and then deposit 100k usd 3 years later?

>>51342088
Anon, there's nothing wrong with storing data digitally if you take appropriate steps to secure it. You're right about their fragility in some cases, but you won't be breaking an HDD with normal operations. Always have a backup, of course, but there's no reason to be engraving soup tins with seed phrases

Let's say i made a paper wallet following the instructions on this link:
https://www.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/securely_purchase.html
how would i get someone to buy some monero and send it to me? and once i have that, how would i cash it out?

>>51342168
if you go over 10k / month they have to notify ir5.
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-access/f8300_accessible.pdf

>>51342630
thanks for the info anon, shit makes me sick

>>51342485
To cash out, you'd have to open your wallet. As far as getting someone else to buy goes, it'd depend on your target audience. With boomers, you'd be screwed. I think most people who're somewhat familiar with crypto can figure it out eventually. The easiest option would be for them to buy from a CEX like Kraken, or buy Bitcoin and swap it

>>51342630

They really want their cut regardless lol

>>51342909
what does opening a wallet mean? I'm fairly new to all things regarding crypto currency

>>51343638
So if you're trying to cash out, you'll need to import your paper wallet into your computer's monero wallet. Otherwise you can't send any transactions

Hello /xmr/, I come to you in a time of great need.

I require ALL your crab-related memes, monero or otherwise. Ideally animated.

>>51341024
>>51341097

>The last time I corrupted it was when I stupidly yanked the USB stick out like I generally do with tails.

you are such a fucking brainlet

>>51344375

>start mining
>feel sad that I'm wasting so much electricity for miniscule benefits
>want to buy more mining hardware, but I still won't break even on monthly costs
I want to support the coin but it's just too expensive to even think of it as turning power bill into coin.

>>51345150
mine gpu coins and swap to monero, with your cpu mining monero

>>51344375
>animated

>>51282570
moNEGRO - token not needed

>>51282570
I don't understand the mining incentive of xmr
At best you can make like 20c/day with a ryzen 9000 series CPU after energy cost
What reason is there to mine this rather than just GPU mine?

>>51344375

>>51344375

>>51344375

>>51346488
bitcoin not needed. i don't want bitcoin. why would I want bitcoin as of today?

N-no.. the sats..

>>51336869
>If others throw themselves into a dry well head-on, would you also?

>>51337036
Agreed, I'm also indifferent. But at the very least respect those that have passed. You wouldn't like it if a member of your family passed away and someone else was making fun of him/her.

>>51346494
because you believe in Monero, in the technology and in the philosophical/ideological aspects of Monero.
Reminder that mining BTC or ETH was yeilding the same amount of $ for a while. I stopped mining BTC with my CPU because I was only earning a few $ cents per day. It would be hundred of dollars per day as of today if I kept going.

>>51345150
I mine monero "just for fun" and to have some change. If you want profits mine something else with a GPU

REMINDER: BIDEN IS BANNING PROOF OF WORK. MONERO IS GOING TO ZERO.

>>51347241
I mine over TOR and they can't ban CPUs.

Nice baitpost either way

https://magicgrants.org/noot-ETH-XMR-Atomic-Swaps/

From now until Sept. 15th, The Monero MAGIC grant is doing 1:1 matching donations up to $5000 for donating towards continued development of XMR-ETH atomic swaps. You can make your money go twice as far as you could before, and this is something really important for Monero(chan).

>>51342731
yup. They're just letting you use their USA Inc. scrip.
>>51343455
Even in death.....
See the video >>51303943
>tl;dw
>old incel boomer dies, lived with mother dearest, who died a few years prior
>no will
>no crotchlings
>took a month for anyone to notice
>imagine the smell
>collected gold coinage, guns, and bulk canned food
>also kept docs interpreted to be anti government
>coins in ammo cans valued at over 7 million (in 2012)
>local authorities called in
>they call the fed bois
>IRS grabs the coins, 200k retirement fund, might've laughed at $200 checking account, took that as well
>fed boys laughing with contempt all the way back to the treasury
>distant relative found
>relative will use picrel chart to determine their take after fed bois
>thought experiment; in current year fed bois will just assert that hodling incel gathered wealth through unproven illicit means, invoking civil asset forfeiture. Relative will have to prove a negative in federal court to get anything back

For the other anons. I do cold steel my seed, only because of generational wealth. If I was childless, I would rather store the seed in encrypted usb drives all over the place. Why would one enable gloniggatry or useless relatives? Only contempt will ensue. Lost coins fall to the liquidity floor, a.k.a. monerochans locker. Smooths out the crab.

>>51348787
holy SHIT

>>51287117
>When it comes to $THREAD_VALUE, $THREAD_TOPIC and $COIN_TO_SHILL comes to my mind

>>51349100
my bad, here is the tl;dw vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHwlPaTetyo

>>51348787
Damn that was quick! Big props to the anonymous donor who immediately gave $5000 to the fund (doubled to $10,000) and hit the matching donation limit right away.

We're now only $9500 away from hitting complete funding.

For those who store their seeds on an encrypted usb drive, are you worried about data corruption or do you do frequent/yearly backups?

>>51350280
I made an M-Disc backup a while ago and have 2 USB copies in 2 locations but yes I do worry about data retention over time. I've been considering replacing regular USBs with SLC DOMs in some 3d printed case, but they are kind of pricey.

I'd still likely do backup/replacements every 5-10 years on those for extra super duper safety.

>>51346634
I genuinely want some sort of response to this.
As of now, are there really any benefits of using/investing long term in Bitcoin rather than Monero? Any at all? Can you imagine someone, other than a Bitcoin-holder, that would want Bitcoin to be the future go-to cryptocurrency rather than Monero?

>>51350280
>an encrypted usb drive
drives. make many. Makes no sense holding thumb drives not in use. mental outlaw stores his seed in a password manager, then backs up the datafile onto two usbs. I assume he leaves one at work, and another with his parents. to keep the file current, one would update the drives every so often. storing a hash in the filename to compare when needed would be helpful as well.

>>51350640
I don't see it. As far as network effect and being number one, meh. fixed block size & fixed coinage will make it wonky this decade. I'd rather have privacy.
when bitcoin doubles, monero also doubles through the magic of correlation. bitcoins correlation is tech stonks and the nasdaq.

>>51350640
>As of now, are there really any benefits of using/investing long term in Bitcoin rather than Monero?
Pragmatic ones only. Monero is theoretically superior in every respect, of course. Bitcoin, however, is useful for speculating against.

Same way for example that the dollar is still useful for traditional investing, trading etc. (inb4 "it's not": the multi-trillion dollar funds are still making billions upon billions a year.)
Is the tech shit? Yes. Is the coin useful? Only due to the network effect (and you can convert on-demand). But there are still reasons someone might wish to buy and hold it for some reason or another.

Similar to how there are valid reasons someone might want to buy an animal coin, though Bitcoin is still a bit more of a middle ground than those - it's not THAT useless. Where animal coins are pure and complete speculation, Bitcoin is actualled used as currency sometimes, inferior to Monero though it is.

>>51348787
>https://magicgrants.org/noot-ETH-XMR-Atomic-Swaps/
donated, ty for sharing

>Giving money to women.
Cringe.

>>51348787
>>51350202
>>51351701
>>51349110
Simps.

Fuck ETH. Globohomo surveillance coin.

The fuck do you need 25 grand for, you greedy gook?

>>51352108
And don't you niggers dare edit her into Monerochan. I know how much you simp for 3dpd.

>>51352130
Now you're just asking for it.

>>51352164
ffs, m8.

Venezuela
Slovenia
Estonia
Czechia


The countries which Bitcoin trended in between 2010-2015

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2010-08-09%202015-09-09&q=Bitcoin

And compare to now.

Make your own mind.

>>51352390
Means Monero is Bitcoin between 2010-2015

Today's Bitcoin results is retarded retail.

>>51352390
Can confirm I talked with a classmate about btc in 2012.
2022 and still nobody knows about xmr.
I doubt even he does and he was big on crypto back then.

>>51352036
There are privacy tokens on Ethereum that get shilled here sometimes. They seem to be some kind of tumbler where a bunch of tokens go in and some smart contract shits them out. I think we are at the point where random shitty companies and developers can create shit tokens with dumb mechanics like this much faster than the few open source security researchers can stop by and debunk and deanonomize. Like most tokens, of course, the goal is to get you to buy their speculative asset, because it's trying to bring privacy to ethereum.

I will say that if any of those things actually can work, then it will have some use for sure. Right now if you want private ETH, you create a new ETH address and convert your ETH you got from wherever into XMR, then XMR into ETH on your new account, and of course you can reverse that process at a later time. Eventually that will be able to be automated with an ETH/XMR atomic swap.

But I guess something entirely on the ethereum chain might one day be easier. I just don't at all see how privacy can be safely injected there.

>>51352130
>And don't you niggers dare edit her into Monerochan. I know how much you simp for 3dpd.

You get what you fucking deserve.

>>51351911
>>51351997
>>51352108
>>51352130
>>51352180

>>51344375
PS8MMX

does anyone have a link that works to the /xmr/ matrix?
just pops up as "non invited"

>>51353770
Holy shitb, kek. Saved. I haven't cried from laughter in months. Fucking hell. You made my day. Thank you.

>>51352108
its 4 months of dev work. imo it is very reasonable if we assume a relatively high cost of living area.

p2pool keeps telling me

"Mainchain data for height 2708395 is missing, requesting it from monerod again", "peer 123.456.789.123:37888 is ahead on mainchain (height 2708396, your height 2708392). Is your monerod stuck or lagging?", and "add_external_block: block is built on top of an unknown mainchain block 0d4bfed97a0b05f75d6e724b1e7195c1642d60d23515ceffb085d67a67b99cc4, mainchain reorg might've happened"

is there something wrong with my monerod?

>>51356107
monerod log looks like this. I guess these are nonfatal exceptions?

>>51356107
>is there something wrong with my monerod?
sounds like your node isn't keeping up with the network; do you have shitty connection / is it rate-limited?
try and run monerod alone without p2p and get it up to date with the latest block

>>51356202
monerod is up to date because I let it sync overnight. I connect to it with feather wallet and it works fine.

One problem is that on monerod startup it tells me:
WARNING net.dns src/common/dns_utils.cpp:346 Invalid DNSSEC TXT record signature for updates.moneropulse.org: validation failure <updates.moneropulse.org. TXT IN>: no signatures from 45.90.30.231 for trust anchor . while building chain of trust
WARNING net.dns src/common/dns_utils.cpp:570 WARNING: no two valid DNS TXT records were received

I think my ISP may have a fucky DNS setup.

not the case>>51282683
miners have funds and can create hype

>>51356183
lol

>>51356741
It is obviously the case as that anon describes. If we assume that the vast majority of miner income is just from block reward, then in order for the hashrate to stay the same, the price of bitcoin must continue to double every halfening.

Hold on, seems to be working after using the command-line-options specified at https://p2pool.io/#help.. RTFM I guess.

shemitah
https://pastefree.net/VkvgjP792Ed

>>51346488
Just use coinjoin! Trust us, your surveillance tokens will not be found or censored!

Woohoo! Looks like I got a block! so when do I get to see the coins in my wallet?

>>51357473
CopeJoin and CopeSwap are just as good RingCT or zk-STARKS

>>51352108
not everyone is an incel who can afford to sit inside all day without monetary benefit.

>>51346488
>bear markets
>gains
I WANT SOUND CURRENCY. WITH A VALUE REFLECTIVE OF THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCE IT FACILITATES, NOT PROPPED UP BY SEETHING BAGGIES.

>>51357544
>Woohoo! Looks like I got a block!
Who's going to tell him?

>>51357697
I hope he knows, otherwise I feel bad for him

>>51357697
After a few minutes looking at mini.p2pool.observer, i realized that my pitiful 1.5KH isn't getting a share in.

>>51356183
Your shit is fucked.

REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL MINI
>REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL MINI
REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL MINI
>REMINDER TO MINE ON P2POOL MINI

Hello Monerochads. Reminder to mine on P2Pool Mini (if you have a regular computer/CPU it's recommanded).
You will receive daily bits of XMR and will help the network decentralization.
It's easy to set up. Don't be afraid to start mining on p2pool. Anyone can mine on it by following one of the first 3 tutorials.

Basically to mine on p2Pool Mini you need:
>a local full or puned monero node, or being connect to a remote node
>a monero adress used only for mining
>p2pool (just decompress a zip)
>xmrig or any other miner

Here are important ressources to start:

1) Video tutorial with the GUi (Linux/Windows) -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbxbRu-2GWI [Embed]

2) Tutorial for Windows with/without the GUI and a simple script to launch everything once it's set up -> https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/bjk9r

3) P2pool Get started FAQ (for P2Pool Mini also read the above tutorial and don't forget to add a mini_config.json file in p2pool folder) -> https://p2pool.io/#help

4) Monero Bash for linux users -> https://github.com/hinto-janaiyo/monero-bash

Other ressources:

5) Remote P2Pool nodes -> https://xmrvsbeast.com/p2pool/monero_nodes.html

6) You can calculate your estimated shares/day here -> https://mini.p2pool.observer/calculate-share-time

7) P2Pool Mini observer: https://mini.p2pool.observer

>>51357787
you talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded

>>51357780
With 4-8 KH/s, should I mine on the big or on the mini p2pool? After 24h on big I got 0 blocks in status, I read somewhere (orange site I think) that it takes 5-10 days with that hashrate to get something.
It's so fucking unprofitable. But at least I finally have a use case for truly stateless compute nodes that could as well be booted from a TFTP server.

>>51358060
>6) You can calculate your estimated shares/day here -> https://mini.p2pool.observer/calculate-share-time

Mine on P2Pool Mini fren

*****/XMR/ Monero General Poker Night*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Poker Night*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Poker Night*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Poker Night*****

Hang out and play Texas Hold'em with fellow MoneroChads safely over an anonymized network and hopefully win some XMR along the way!

To accommodate players from different time zones, Poker Night commences at 6:00 PM Sydney, Australia time and then rolls westward throughout the day, so in effect the entirety of Saturday = Poker Night, feel free to drop in at any time!

>STARTS
06:00 PM Sydney
10:00 Berlin
04:00 AM New York City


>WHERE
Poker Night alternates between Poker Club and XMR Poker to give both services traffic. This week Poker Club is the designated host while XMR Poker is the backup should there be technical issues or all tables reach capacity.

Neither service requires JavaScript.

>Poker Club
http://pokerggxmrvzecuo6afhucjwdljuve5eoavxdxdr6zedyejd6mvz5wad.onion

Dread: http://dreadytofatroptsdj6io7l3xptbet6onoyno2yv7jicoxknyazubrad.onion/d/PokerClub

>XMR Poker
http://xmrpoker3icphjr7c6dgct3by44ph4xvxrds4jzwjkjh7h2owdf6icyd.onion

Be sure to read the guides on either site to familiarize yourself with how things work.


>REQUIREMENTS
You will obviously need to download and install the Tor Browser to access the darknet.

https://www.torproject.org/download/

You will also need an unknown amount of XMR to play. Don't stake more than you can afford to lose.

Optionally, you can voice chat and coordinate over Jitsi for a more authentic social experience. Jitsi is FOSS and end-to-end encrypted.

https://meet.jit.si/
https://desktop.jitsi.org/Main/Download.html


Note that unlike with clearnet gaming, playing over Tor with Monero is by far the comfiest way to play because your identity, IP address and money trail cannot be established so you don't have to worry about legalities or about the tax man coming to collect his share of your winnings.

Good luck!!

>>51358122
Yeah, I saw that from your previous post, thanks. I'm on P2Pool Mini already. At ~1.5KH It's saying my average frequency between P2Pool shares is about ~18h 30m.

Is that average frequency at which I get a share in P2Pool Mini, or Is that average frequency at which I get a share in P2Pool Mini AND that share gets in the blockchain?

>>51358706
>Is that average frequency at which I get a share in P2Pool Mini, or Is that average frequency at which I get a share in P2Pool Mini AND that share gets in the blockchain?

based orange id
It is the average frequency at which you get a share mining on the "P2Pool Mini Pool". Then you it's all "random", it's all about if you find a share within the "PPLNS window" while a block is found by the "P2Pool Mini Pool".
Sometimes you get lucky and have several shares in the "PPLNS window" and sometimes you find shares for several days but they are all out of the "PPLNS window"

>>51352688
I think it's more interesting to ask the public in countries that adopted Bitcoin in the early years.

I'm from Czechia and here the Monero seems quite popular here. :)

And I paid my friend from school in Monero :D

>>51359870
Normally I'd never do that though. I never talk about cryptocurrencies and if asked, I own none. I just thought it was cool.

>>51359881
based as fuck

>>51358849
Alright, that makes sense.

>>51359870
>>51359881
cool.

>>51359870
That's really cool, anon. I'm from America and basically nobody knows about any of the cryptos other than Bitcoin, Ethereum, Dogecoin, and sometimes Litecoin. I helped someone with their first Bitcoin purchase 2 years ago, and I aim to help 2 people with their first Monero purchases this year as a personal goal. I also plan to start putting stickers around my city for it.

>>51359870
>I'm from Czechia and here the Monero seems quite popular here. :)
Me too and nobody I know knows about it or trusts it(znám i lidi s magistrem z IT co si furt jedou "btc is king" copium)

Comfiest hold in crypto.

Btw anyone here knows what's the current serai state?
When is the planned release?

>>51363408

By the end of the year we should have something up and running.

>>51350202

>>51317900 (checked)
Silver has always been sex.

>>51364958
Based.

>>51365106
Fiat currency is like a suicide note from the oligarchy. Once bigNormie acquire the knack for necking administrations that pozz their money, the natural value of reality will return.

>>51358849
i'm mining on mini what's the difference?

>>51358706
i think you need to get like 3 shares in a tight window or it's wasted and you receive no payout.

>Trusted technology, growing adoption

Zcash was launched by one of the most respected technical teams in the world.

Zcash is the 'https of blockchains,' protecting your freedom to save and spend as you like.

Zcash was the first project to implement zk-SNARKs, a novel form of zero-knowledge cryptography that gives its users the strongest privacy available in any digital currency.

Multiple, independent organizations are funded to innovate on Zcash.

Zcash is already available on top exchanges, digital wallets and a growing number of applications.

This is what Monero chuds don't want you to know.

Buy Zcash if you actually want to make it.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/wownero/

>zcuck
doa, irrelevant, kys

>>51365966

Checked.

>>51365943
NO NO NO I WAS SAVING UP TO SLURP IT

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA YOU DUMB BIMBO DOG SLUT STOP PUMPING

>>51365943

>>51366852
Saved. God, I love pinup girls!

>>51365966

Monero cucks on suicide watch.

>>51342630

>>51365919
>>51365933
>>51367671
I unironically missed you faggots. Where is the guy with the tranny animals propaganda memes? I remember some tranny bulls and unicorns couple of mounths ago.

>>51367868

Yes, because cocaine and hentai have more mainstream appeal.

Zcash ultimately wins because it markets to the masses as opposed to two-bit criminals

>>51368039

lol marketing to the mainstream is pointless since CBDCs will own that entire sector. The future of privacy coins is the shadow economy, where Monero has already established itself and Zcash is universally despised.

You bet on the wrong horse, Jack.

>>51368039
Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Thank you. Do you have more?

>>51368039
You do know there are more people that do coke than there are trannies, right?

>>51368091

lol you don't get it: Zcash complements CBDCs perfectly by design and reputation, unlike Monero which has already hitched its wagon to the narcotics, CP and terrorism sectors.

Zcash has basically already won, just waiting for the dust to settle.

>>51368257

You do know that Wall Street has deeper pockets than Columbian jungle dwellers, right?

sex with monero-chan

>>51368587
>Zcash complements CBDCs perfectly by design and reputation

What is it with Z-cucks and central banks?

>>51368616
I ll join your larp next time.

FRESH BREAD >>51369216
FRESH BREAD >>51369216
FRESH BREAD >>51369216