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Secret edition: no links

>> No.51323930

first for uranium

>> No.51323943
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Where are my fellow VT investors

>> No.51323963
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Imagine buying GSAT. Get ready for a giga dump you fucking retards. Apple aint shit and no1 cares. Its over.

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What's this?

>> No.51323987
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>>51323909
standard Bang's is OK but I for one prefer the added flavors and complexities of the oliet.

>> No.51323990

>>51323984
Stop spamming this retarded chart

>> No.51323992
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weigh the pros and cons

>> No.51323995
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>>51323984
This is what an actual squeeze looks like. GME and BBBY go home

>> No.51323996
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>SIGA is a dead play because monkepox is over, daily new cases are decreasing
To these SIGA naysayers, how do you explain picrel?

>> No.51323997

>>51323990
why is it retarded?

>> No.51324008

>>51323997
I think he meant to say anti semitic

>> No.51324009
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>>51323990
Exactly. It was much more comfy when we spammed pastime discussion.

>> No.51324013

>>51323997
Because the surest sell signal is a obvious buy signal and the surest buy signal is an obvious sell signal.

>> No.51324014

>>51323990
I just saw it on pol and came over here to ask you retards about it. What is it?

>> No.51324026

>>51323996
Are you...are you implying that pridepox cases are being misdiagnosed as COVID-19?

>> No.51324034

>>51324014
its a bet on the market crashing which can be conveyed as a prediction the market is crashing or a hedge against it. Faggotnigger.

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>>51324009
>dawless electronic music performance isn't in the top tier
Shit chart, what's it from 2010?

>> No.51324041

>>51324009
>Television (religious) is last
kek This has probably been the case since the 80s. If only impressionable dumbass grandmas didn't give away their life savings to Joel Osteen.

>> No.51324042

>>51324013
so because you think there is no way to figure out what it means and therefore you choose to ignore it?

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>>51324014
>>51323997
>>51323984

>> No.51324048

>>51324014
All the big boys are bracing for impact.

>> No.51324074

>>51324026
No, I'm showing that a relative decrease in cases so early in an outbreak means very little. Covid cases also dropped off a bit before shooting up. Infections in school aged kids will be the catalyst for monkepox

>> No.51324075

>>51324014
Hedgefunds are betting the market is going to crash. The chart shows the balance between bets that the market will climb (aka Calls) and bets that the market will fall (aka Puts). Right now according to that chart its 8 to 1 favoring puts in terms of where hedgefund traders are putting their money.

However, that means dick, because the MMs are the ones selling these puts, which could make this an ultra bullish signal. MM can just jerk the price up and make all those puts worthless, and then crash it down later after buying them back for pennies on the dollar.

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>>51324034
>>51324048
Hm, good thing I spend all my tendies as they arrive and don't give a shit. Thanks frens.

>> No.51324127

>>51324026
He's pointing out that the media and other "authorities" were claiming that Covid was under control and that cases were decreasing right before the number exploded.

>> No.51324170

>>51324125
you don't save or invest?
wtf?

>> No.51324176

Just do drugs, bros.
If it's good enough for the president's son, it's good enough for you.

>> No.51324179

>>51324127
>>51324074
OK, gotcha. Well yeah, COVID you had the whole respiratory virus seasonality. We're a little ways into the school year and I haven't heard of any cases where entire classes got it.

That's not great for the SIGA bull case. Especially since it's otherwise nearing eradication in all the early outbreak zones.

>> No.51324231

>>51324179
it has a 2 week gestation period. You think college kids aint fuckin? Lel.

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anyone still bagholding ARK funds? whats it like getting BOGGED by Cathy?

>> No.51324255

>>51324240
anyone investing in active funds instead of passive is a fucking retard
at that point just buy the fucking stocks

>> No.51324256

>>51324231
You think degenerates in Brooklyn aren't? That some bi dude in SF hasn't poxed both types of holes? It emerged as a gay STD and is remaining that way beyond single hops to the occasional woman or molestation victim.

The SIGA bull case *requires* that said molestation victim or preschool teacher or whoever get the sores also sustainably transmits it. So far that's been a total whiff, even after accounting for incubation periods.

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>>51324179
>We're a little ways into the school year and I haven't heard of any cases where entire classes got it.
Kids have only been back to school for 1-2 weeks in most school districts. These developments are happening in real time, this one was published just this morning

https://theriver953.com/MONKEPOX-case-confirmed-at-sherando-high-school/
>the person was in school while infectious
this is very bullish for SIGA

>> No.51324275

>>51324256
no, all it really *requires* is a fairly small mutation or reason to cross over into heterosexual populations. Thats it. Now, does that happen...? I dont know, I aint no faggot.

>> No.51324293

>>51324275
>*requires* is a fairly small mutation
Yeah that's also a possibility. As a quick favor, can you point out for me the exact amino acids we're banking on for it to get all smallpoxy?

You said it's fairly small so should only be a couple, right? I mean, you wouldn't just throw in that adjective as subconscious copium. Would you?

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>>51324231
>>51324256
Sex is only one mode of transmission, it's naive to think sex is the only way that monkepox spreads
>This Is Not the Monkepox That Doctors Thought They Knew
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/not-MONKEPOX-doctors-thought-knew-142944304.html

>> No.51324318

>>51324293
I've covered this under my 'i dont know, I aint no faggot' clause.

>> No.51324321
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>>51324275
>>51324293
Reverse zoonosis has already been documented, you're arguing over a moot point. Sex is not required for monkepox transmission

>> No.51324346

>>51324259
Yeah, throw that on the pile of all the other daycare and school exposures people flipped their shit at. How'd those turn out? You know, the freakouts where they vaccinated everyone.

>>51324294
>>51324321
Yeah and AIDS also spreads through needles. Doesn't mean it's not 99% a gay problem. And need I remind you, those 1% cases aren't enough for SIGA to maintain a double digit share price.

>>51324318
Well in this case you're a biotech investor and a potentially infected non-faggot so, ya know, might be worth reading up on.

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According to all known laws of aviation, there is no way a bee should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The bee, of course, flies anyway because bees don't care what humans think is impossible. [Citation needed]

>> No.51324383

>>51324346
>its impossible to transmit within a heterosexual population
I really dont care what kind of medical nonsense you want to flash at me, its worth me throwing some niggermoney at because im not a poorfaggot. And I highly doubt you know even slightly what you're talking about.

>> No.51324388

>>51324349
RETARD
>>51324044

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>>51324346
>Yeah, throw that on the pile of all the other daycare and school exposures people flipped their shit at. How'd those turn out? You know, the freakouts where they vaccinated everyone.
Cite some examples for me?

>> No.51324407

Welp got 10Gs to play with what’s the current meme

>> No.51324429

>>51324407
>Welp got 10Gs to play with what’s the current meme
the nasdaq

>> No.51324457

>>51323909
>barq
/smg/ is a A&W general

>> No.51324472
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>>51324383
>I really dont care what kind of medical nonsense you want to flash at me
You sort of should when you're betting on a medical nonsense stock.

>its worth me throwing some niggermoney at because im not a poorfaggot.
Bagholder cope is at least fun to read when you're in a cult like GME. SIGA's just sad, dead money.

>And I highly doubt you know even slightly what you're talking about.
Hey, I didn't get my timing perfectly right but you gotta have an exit point when doing trades, whether it's event or price driven. Even if it goes against you or forces you to eat a loss.

>>51324390
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illinois-daycare-worker-tests-positive-monkeepox-children-other-staff-potentially-exposed
but you can search something like Google News for mpox and daycare or school and see the lack of "outbreak among" articles.

>> No.51324482

>>51324388
The position assumed is raw-dogging the international market.

>> No.51324484

>>51324349
>[Citation needed]
That's because it's actually not true, a bee(sic)'s flight is completely explainable and modellable, how else do you think the CIA can field B-Drones worldwide to keep tabs on their TIs?

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>>51324457
/smg/ is a bang's general

>> No.51324509

>>51324472
>blah blah blah
>bagholder
nigger I made 40k on it and I dont have a position currently. that doesnt mean there isnt money to be made back up, retard. Just like you did.

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>>51324500
I'm pretty sure /smg/ is a Coke Zero general

>> No.51324527
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>futures

>> No.51324539

>>51324509
>"2 more weeks, bro!"
>"Just a small mutation and it becomes smallpox, bro!"
>"I don't have a position currently"
Hmm, yeah, sure...

>> No.51324547

>>51324539
>it can never happen
hmm ok sure

>> No.51324573

>>51324547
Look, fair enough. Keep an eye out, sell some covered calls, you'll make up for the losses on your bags eventually.

>> No.51324581

>Late night Smg
>No Links
Might as well watch Gay porn while Im at it

>> No.51324593
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>>51324573
Your investment advice is trash

>> No.51324612

>>51324573
I told you I have no position, so there are no bags. but i do think a few whispers can send it up. Retard.

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>>51324581
Stocks?

>> No.51324658

>>51324593
I mean, I'm not the one
>throwing some niggermoney at [it] because im not a poorfaggot.

That kind of investing is probably worse for portfolio performance.

>>51324612
A few whispers can literally send up any penny stock. You are in "monkey at a dart board" territory.

>> No.51324673

>>51324658
ah right you're that one nigger
>you made money on a stock? fucking lucky. you re a monkey with a dart board
go fucking neck yourself

>> No.51324693
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>>51324673
I just showed how understanding SIGA made me thousands of dollars. You clearly don't and will lose thousands (hundreds? tens?) of dollars.

>> No.51324711

>>51324693
as did I, whats your point exactly...? Show me your phd or shut the fuck up.

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>>51324526
>>51324500
>>51324457

*sips* in your path

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The last sound that any of you niggers will hear before you make your maker is

**BANGS**
GN

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>>51324755
I was slurping that science juice before it was cool.

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>>51324771
Sir, this post is off-topic. We're going to have to ask you to leave.
>buy CLF

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hmmmmmm I am taking a bite off Taiwan. Not bad not bad..

>> No.51324836

>>51324294
I asked /pol/ this question and they were unable to answer it sufficiently. Please explain to me why it's only just now a gay disease when it was never one in Africa?

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>>51324836
Because the mainstream media said it was. The mainstream media is science and science is your GOD

>> No.51324894

>>51324859
So, in other words, I'm not missing anything and it's actually not a gay disease, which means that this spread is about to blow up. That about right?

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>>51324894
sounds about right.
WEF did say infectious disease was the biggest risk in the next two years. Which means we may see a small pox outbreak next year.

>> No.51324922

>>51323984
this is bullish btw

>> No.51324974
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palantir bros how are we all holding up?

>> No.51324991

>>51324905
>>51324836
Ask big hot shot nigger here, apparently xhe’s the SIGA princess
>>51324693

>> No.51324992

>>51324974
>palantir
kek you still own that?

>> No.51324999

>>51324836
>>51324894
I agree, the gay sex thing was a psyop. They released monkepox at a pride event on a secluded island attended by 80,000 gay men, it's diabolical for pushing this narrative, correlation vs causation. Gays are the new bat eaters

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gentlemen

we have bottomed.

>> No.51325038

>>51325003
Your portfolio hasn’t though

>> No.51325045

>>51323909
stocks will drop atleast another 50% in the coming 24 months and it will be fucking glorious. SPY 1500 screencap this. bye now niggers

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I'm gonna be candid with you /smg/... I miss scoopsies... When I plan to top a Twink (preferably black) I at least expect a little resistance. Scoopsies fills that void. Buy SOXL premarket.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=TmtkLP_jcEI&feature=share

>> No.51325099

what happened the last time after rate hikes were announced at fomc? did the market rally or drop?

>> No.51325107
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Why do my hinge matches keep unmatching me. Im hot, im matching with hotties, but i talk for a bit then ask them to coffee and they unmatch me. Wtf
Buy puts

>> No.51325154

>>51325003
>moles
why do the nips keep doing this

>> No.51325187
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>percentage of nasdaq comp stocks that are above their 200 dma

>> No.51325207

>>51324256
>The SIGA bull case *requires* that said molestation victim or preschool teacher or whoever get the sores also sustainably transmits it. So far that's been a total whiff, even after accounting for incubation periods.
Absolutely correct. I thought this would be the case by now. I'm willing to see where we're at in a couple of weeks but the SP would have to be well south of 10 for me to even consider getting back in. Glad I made a few bucks before I got out. Old me would have held like a stubborn faggot.

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>>51325107

20% wanted some dick quick-like so they'd rather hit a bar and get drunk then smash in a hotel or w/e
40% just wanted the validation that somebody would fuck them but not the hassle of actually doing it
40% you're sayin some shit that's dryin the pussy up

>> No.51325242

>>51325107
Why are you interacting with garbage?

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>>51324009
fixed

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>>51323963
Stfu faggot. GSAT is literally going to 2 to 5 x here. God damn you bobos are delusional. This is fucking APPLE you dipshit.

>> No.51325371

Lets say the mega bears are right and we run straight into a depression, whats the play? Everythings gonna be fucked isnt it

Consumer stables? People still gonna eat although less

>> No.51325383

What's Powell gonna say tomorrow? Should I load up on shorts at the open?

>> No.51325415

What is happening with the HELOC market? It has become very popular in the last few years, but do the rising rates make it a trap?

>> No.51325441
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Anybody bullish on steel? Thinking about slurping some X calls if it dips again.

>> No.51325446

>>51325415
Imo heloc will be the match that sets the housing market on fire, lots of people will loose their homes

>> No.51325449

Buying Coupang at this price and weekly / monthly covered calles around the .05% / 2% return on premiums is a damn solid bet right now. Could pull 24% returm this year with a conservative gameplan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhuKPw6yzyE

>> No.51325464

>>51325446
I would love to see the day! Go get a HELOC errbody and buy coupang stock korea is bullish asf

>> No.51325480

>>51325242
I want sexo and have no experience picking up women. Only had one gf since college and i ended it with her recently after 4+ years. I know nothing

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>>51325449
Nene best goose

>> No.51325497

>>51324041
>Television (religious) is last
Yeah kind of pointless to rank the income of retired people. In fact the more I think about it the more retarded the chart is.

>> No.51325499
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>SP500 Top 10 PE Ratio is 24.7
>SP490(Minus the Top 10) is 14.6
>The average PE is 16.6

the market minus the top 10 of the index, is unironically cheap

>> No.51325511

>>51325226
Yeah i think its the bottom 40% im doing. I have literally no clue how to talk to women in a non platonic way. Which is hilarious because i charm the shit out of women i have no interest in and always have
Cest la vie

>> No.51325548

>>51325107
>but i talk for a bit then ask them to coffee
How old are you bro? What year do you think it is right now?

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>>51325499
>tesla's pe ratio is 97 still

>> No.51325612

>>51325548
Im 26

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All you delusional faggots think the bottom is in need to kys. We just started trimming some fat this past year. Things will get more interesting.

>> No.51325634

>>51325615
Will my vix calls print?

>> No.51325646

>>51325499
what if earnings shrink. then PE goes up assuming price stays the same.

>> No.51325651

>>51325615
So buy Coupang puts?

>> No.51325674

>>51325612
Its 2022. if you want to attract a woman you need to offer coffee with your semen in it, or you need to subscribe to her onlyfans

there is no middle ground outside of college

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>>51325499
>the market minus the top 10 of the index, is unironically cheap

tell that to november earnings. you know what sector is like 8 p/e right now? banks. why dont you buy some banks?

>> No.51325768

>>51325674
Inshallah i shall throw myself from the tallest tower before i provide a woman a single penny for her pussy or company

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>>51325744
i own FAS

>> No.51325827

>>51325371
Energy was supposed to be the depression play but it's all fucked right now because governments are even more retarded than estimated

>> No.51325861

>Imagine betting on black it's obviously gonna land on red
How does it feel knowing this is what every smg thread ultimately boils down to?

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>>51325861
HOPEFUL

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>>51325492
Ya sure about that?

>> No.51325991

>>51325792
and you're losing money

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>>51325861
>bet on black
>shill the virtues of black
>it's red
>it's red again
>and again
>and again
>then black once
>DECLARE TRIUMPH AND CALL EVERYONE STUPID

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>>51325991
hey i deserve compassion and sympathy too

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>>51324500
>>51324526
This is Monster country

>> No.51326152

>>51323984
considering how much calls spiked just a bit earlier is it not unreasonable to just consider the put spike as the closing of their hedged longs?

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>>51324500
>>51324526
>>51326099
>>51324457
Dr Pepper is the official drink of /smg/ (Ticker KDP)

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what is the currently market thesis/narrative? i cant tell where things are headed, my inclination is bearish but market is pumping regardless. im feeling shook. think we are headed lower next year or will we begin a recovery? have you guys been buying long or are you holding off?

>> No.51326256

>>51326028
just sell it and move on. banks suck right now

>> No.51326259

>>51324771
those drum mags are trash. have you ever actually tried to cycle even 30 consistent rounds through that?

>> No.51326281

If the ECB raises by 75 instead of 50 basis points today, we can say goodbye to the DAX.

>> No.51326287
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We're gonna get rekt after mid terms. Once the politicians lose interest in garnering votes and approval they will also lose interest in supporting the market in any way. QT will intensify, the strategic petroleum reserve will get locked back up, student loan handouts will cease, and the fed will not give even a token shit about unemployment rising as they work to bring inflation down. We are the fucked

>> No.51326288

>>51324974
Are you retarded? Shit is vaporware

>> No.51326297

>>51325827
Energy is way to volatile imo, good for daytrading maybe

>> No.51326311

>>51323984
put options on what?
expiration?
wheres the proof?
they call it hedging but then say the put buying is negative?
what is this garbage?

>> No.51326343

>>51326218
everytime my etf legs down 5% I buy 10k more on top of the 2k I buy every month.

>> No.51326370

Just bought 220 shares of EON stock. Will I get assblasted by lefties demanding no more profits on energy?

>> No.51326380

>>51325861
I don't make fun of people's positions unless it's something catastrophically silly, and I don't brag about mine.

>> No.51326404

>>51326218
Order of the day is volatility. Day and swing traders should be doing well. I'm half cash half shorting the nasdaq for the moment.

>> No.51326409

>>51326015
this is how it feels to go long on gold.

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>>51326160
Based.

>> No.51326551

So do we test 4000 or go back to 3900 today?

>> No.51326565

>>51326551
pls sir just a scrap of 4000 ...

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>>51326551
Yes

>> No.51326580

I just accidently sold a bunch of naked puts. AMA

>> No.51326597

>>51326566
Artists are sick bastards

>> No.51326643

>>51326580
You can trade options outside of regular market hours?

>> No.51326668

>>51326643
i did it last week, i only just realised they were naked when i noticed that my cash didnt quite cover the amount of puts i had (by like 2x)
i didnt think my broker would let me sell more puts than i could cover on a non-margin account

>> No.51326709

stock go up so i can get a new car k thx

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>>51326281
Wouldn't that drive down the dollar and make US stocks move up?

>> No.51326755

>>51326729
tfw no dom mummy zero two

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51326781

Is it actually possible for no-connections normalcunts like us to make money in the stock market long-term?

how the fuck am I supposed to find a good buying opportunity in a few hours of my free time before the hedgefunds with hundreds of people working on it 24/7 with elite educations, political connections and near infinite resources?

lust provoking image to get your attention

>> No.51326804

>>51326781
>how the fuck am I supposed to find a good buying opportunity in a few hours of my free time before the hedgefunds with hundreds of people working on it 24/7 with elite educations, political connections and near infinite resources?
the real red pill is that those cunts dont end up beating the market either
the black pill is insider trading

BOOOOOOOOOOBA

>> No.51326916

>>51326259
never had a gun, what can go wrong with big mags?

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>>51326781
Yes. Take the VIX futures short pill, make regular contango gains, set sell orders at 33 to get in.

Don't use as much margin as in pic rel, also don't do it in 2022, wait for the crash and the end of strong backwardation first.

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>march 2022
>fake and gay rally after russian invasion to around 4500 s&p levels
>open big 20x leverage shorts on nasdaq, s&p and hsi
>making money off short swap (0.75% overnight) daily
>swing trading exclusively top 100 US companies. no stop loss. if I miss I just hold no biggie
>still having same shorts open and getting daily short swap money and free margin
>waiting for le big crash
>profit $87322 ytd
>never under 90% margin level
how can you not make money this year? it's really that simple
in before hurr durr works until it doesn't .. no anon I survived also 2020 crash you just need to learn to hedge correctly

>> No.51326995

>>51326975
I 20x CFD shorted the Nasdaq at the beginning of the fake march pump. Speculating is hard.

>> No.51327078

>>51326566
I think you should kill him.

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>down 50% on nat gas

>> No.51327105

>>51326995
honestly that was a safe bet after that march rally this year though.
even if we had no invasion you still see high inflation, 9T excessive printed money and a broken china supply chain. that correction in november 2021 due that china property problems (evergrande) and the fed talks were my personal wakeup call for going out of those high growth speculative positions since the system was slowly crumbling

>> No.51327117

>>51323995
Europe is burning themselves to the ground and it's entirely their own fault.

>> No.51327173

>>51327117
implying the average europoor has any say in the matter

>> No.51327208

>>51327173
They're compliant, that is their say.

>> No.51327228

>>51327208
too early we're still in September.. wait until the first snow falls and people see their energy bills. I wonder if people are still compliant then..

>> No.51327239

>>51327228
>euROPEans ever not being compliant
anon, I..

>> No.51327249

>>51327104
RIP. I would've gotten a heart attack from the swings.

>> No.51327250

oil is dropping again
lmfao im done

>> No.51327256

>>51327228
They will be, and they'll proclaim victory when they get some insignificant token recompense from their overlords. Always happens.

>> No.51327270

>>51327208
You're not wrong but Americans are essentially the same passive cunts.

>>51327228
Dead people are very compliant

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Are there any /biz/ originalfags here who remember chip anon?
>that classic restaraunt style warmth

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Freshpet's (FRPT, lmao) CFO left not long after secondary offering what's this mean bros? the secondary offering went really well?

>> No.51327298

>>51327239
you have literally 44 countriess in europe with complete different views and mindsets. main stream media and european union makes you think everybody is on the same page but within the countries you already see protests against the sanctions and so on.. and the big price increases are not even here yet.
you think if people have to decide between a meal or a warm house people will be complaint? I'm expecting some literal nigger tier civil wars throughout EU

>> No.51327301

>>51327250
When all the ANALysts became commodity bulls it all started to dump lmao

>> No.51327307

>>51327298
Dont get me scared anon.
I only have food and heating for 2 months.

>> No.51327308

>>51327298
>different views and mindsets
One central bank, one central government. Nobody cares about your thoughts and feelings, you vill comply

>> No.51327321

>>51327249
it's a 3x long etf

I'm sure it'll recover...right?

>> No.51327330

took a night shift for today after getting slapped around for 2 days in the market.

the wagie cagie is calling me

>> No.51327335

>>51324009
Thinking is for poor people, confirmed
Retard chads we're making it

>> No.51327410

All the energies are down
Take that Putler

>> No.51327412

>>51325226
>>51325242
>>51325480
Just keep trying, online dating is a numbers game. You are getting plenty of matches so it means you are decently attractive, so it's probably just a matter of time for you.
Try to think about which questions lead to dead conversations and avoid asking those in the future (usually stuff like where are you from, what do you do, what did you study lead nowhere cuz every guy asks that).
If you only want to have sex, then sexualize the conversation early (innuendos, you don't wanna get banned), it will filter out the ones that are not okay with a quick fuck and then invite them to your place for dinner or movies.
Bringing girls straight to your place hinges a lot on your attractiveness obviously. You might have to go for drinks first if you're not chad enough

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>>51327307
learn how to hunt get some firewood and some blankets

>> No.51327417

>>51327321
According to the smarter anons here leveraged Nat Gas ETFs are for swinging and not for holding. I think it'll go up again but I'm not expecting the level of craziness that some people on the board want

>> No.51327432

>>51326287
wtf is that video real?? LMAO MY SIDES. ouma invites some random nigger crack dealer into the home to come share the warmth from whatever that piece of shit pot plant thing is. GERMANS ARE YOU OK??

>> No.51327496

>>51327432
Personally im ok because i have quite a lot of money and heat with oil.
But its gonna get harsh for millions of people

>> No.51327518

>>51327432
I just checked that diy tealight candle shit on jewtube someone build it and tested cost+warmth
it's a literal joke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnislF901NM

>> No.51327547

How is the gme general still going? wtf do they even talk about

>> No.51327570

>>51327547
Throwing their CFO off a rooftop

>> No.51327581

>>51327518
of course its bullshit, those candles dont create any heat and burn out super fast. also your room is going to fill up with sooty candle smoke

>> No.51327582

No amount of jepi is gonna get me laid. What stocks are sexy to normies?

>> No.51327590

Japan is on the verge of dumping US treasuries to save themselves. What do you think the implications will be?

>> No.51327605

>>51327590
aren't they going to be dumping in to a treasury market that's no longer propped up by the fed?

>> No.51327607

>>51327590
Spike in yields destruction of equities markets war with Iran.

>> No.51327663

>powell speech at 6 am
no one here is going to be awake for that. only euros will

>> No.51327717

I'm holding onto 60k euros, too scared to move. I'll admit I'm a retard so, if you can spare a minute, could you ELI5 why I should wait till October to invest in ETFs and forget about them?
Every thread has nine different main opinions and I'm too fucking dumb to understand who's trolling who. I just want to NOT be rugpulled by some intergalactic, upcoming crash whose signs you clearly see and I'm too ignorant to notice...

>> No.51327747

>>51327273
I remember lil twinky, crack whore anon, and bagholder extraordinaire.

>> No.51327768

>>51327747
>lil twinky
Isn't that the gook poster who raised every anon's outlook and self appreciation by admitting to be extremely pathetic?

>> No.51327770

>>51327663
are rate hikes discussed today but only decided or announced on 20-21st?

>> No.51327774

>>51327717
People have been crying "biggest crash in X decades" for basically over a year now. Nobody actually knows when it will happen. This market is irrational has been irrational as fuck because of trillions of moneyprinting and this is uncharted territory.

Protip it will happen just after you put your money back in the market because fuck you that's why.

>> No.51327840

>>51327717
buy in lots. 5-10% and hold cash in reserve maybe 30%. important dates this month 17/20/21 Sept, not sure about Oct but then you have the mid term election on the 7th Nov. Personally I will be waiting until after the FOMC meeting to buy. theoretically prices could decrease Sept/Oct/Nov. Just buy multiple times instead of a lump sum that way if prices go down your avg will improve. exercising patience with buying is important because it determines your future profit. no one can call a black swan, because that is what it is something unforeseen.
if your trade size is smaller at 5% you will have many opportunities to buy at a favorable price, there is no rush. the market is not going anywhere. things may continue to get worse but if you buy gradually you will come out ahead, eventually the market will improve

>> No.51327849

>>51327717
I sold in november when it became apparent that the fed was going to tighten, and I will not buy until it becomes apparent that they will go back to loosen their monetary policy in order to "save the economy".

Don't fight the fed. Only idiots try

>> No.51327851

>>51327717
if you want to be very conservative, and try to avoid a downturn as much as possible, wait until the midterm elections in the US are over, which is Tuesday, November 8
it is possible that the market bottoms in the week or month prior to midterms
If you want to be even more conservative, but probably mistime entry and be 'too late', but 'guarantee' that you won't be buying into a crash, wait until next June/July - this would only be if we were to go into a multi year bear market, similar to 2001
as other anons have pointed out to you, it doesn't have to be all or nothing
you can dollar cost average in, buying X amount of ETFs a week, after a certain time

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>>51327717
fed's literally telling you to your face they want the stock market to go down lmao

>> No.51327968

>>51327663
It's at 9am eastern nigger.

>> No.51328021

>>51327968
that goofy FAGGOT is going to come out in full dove mode, imply the party is back on and explode my puts

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>>51328021
Kek probably. Bobo has been getting some nasty upside surprises since June.

>> No.51328067

#NotAllJews

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>>51328021
That's bullshit, but I believe it.

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>>51328021

>> No.51328113

>jpow has yet to waver and continuously say that there will be more pain
>even out right saying it in the jackson butthole speech
>they still think he will be dovish now

lmao

>> No.51328198

>>51328113
its pure cope, like btc trying to regain 20k. straight to 0

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>front page headline

lol, lmao

>> No.51328316

>>51328281
Rate hike 1.0% confirm!

>> No.51328347

>>51328281
For fuck's sake, just do a 1000bps rate hike and get it over with already. Tired of the jewish bullshit lately.

>> No.51328367

>>51328347
Market would be like
>okay thats not great but at least its the last ratehike which means BULLISH STONKS GO UP LETS GOOOOOO

>> No.51328407

Today, will be biggest rally since Jackson Hole.

>> No.51328412

At this point apple even looks like it might go bankrupt... debt to equity increasing . Highest rates in 40 years. Momo thinks hes slick but hes getting flushed before the end of the year.

>> No.51328460

If the market wont capitulate then I'm going to avoid flying with for a bit. Jews went crazy in 01 when the market wouldn't capitulate. Rip twin towers

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>>51328412
its over

>> No.51328493

>>51328281
Covid Collapse 2.0: (Don't) Fight the Fed

>> No.51328496

>>51328460
That's when the schemitar ended too and guess what is going to happen by the end of this month again

>> No.51328501

>>51328412
>apple even looks like it might go bankrupt
wat, I thought Apple was sitting on unfathomable amounts of cash?

>> No.51328547

>>51328501
They had like 30b in cash beginning of the year

They do have a lot of liabilities though. 100b+

>> No.51328549

>>51328501
And increasing debt but not equity at an unfathomable rate

>> No.51328555

>>51328501
Sorry goy, looks like we need help from the government.
>Apple even robs you if you dont buy any products from them

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>>51328547
That rate keeps increasing with no financial logic. They probably had apple on autopilot for 5 years

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Poloroids of my wife that I carry

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I switched to bobo side yesterday. sup my fellow bears.

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>>51328549
>>51328547
why would Tim Poof do this?

>> No.51328620

>>51328571
Why are they loading up on so much debt when they barely innovate their product? Can't be r&d for iphones or their airpods or whatever.

Maybe it's the apple car? Can't see a single reason why they'd require so much financing otherwise.

>> No.51328653

>>51328615
because investors (Buffett) told them to use their cash pile to buy back shares, instead of investing in the business
https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/05/06/warren-buffett-educated-tim-cook-steve-jobs-about-the-benefits-of-stock-buybacks
>doing a share buy back at all time high
>SHIGGYDIGGYDOO
makes no sense. at least have the decency for your stock price to be low, to say "it's cheap, that's why we are buying here"

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>futes

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PLUG. Check the news. That is all.

>> No.51328726

>>51328653
>"He was very clear to me, he said 'let me just cut through it, if you believe that your stock is undervalued, you should buy your stock,'" Cook said, recounting the call.
well to be fair that was 10 years ago and the market cap went 5x since then, but the debt level though... how did he think that was a good idea?

>> No.51328729

>>51328691
futes lie people die

>> No.51328732

>>51328615
The better question is why is the media not talking about it. Why are institutions looking to rug retail...

>> No.51328798

>>51328726
I don't think the issue is the initial buybacks, when Buffett encouraged it
it's them buying back again and again post 2017
https://ycharts.com/companies/AAPL/stock_buyback
the buybacks in 2012 were for like $5B and were very short lived, several months max
the dynamic has shifted within the last 5 years, where they're spending $20 billion a month on buybacks - the stock price has gone up 3x, and they're doing 4x the buybacks
I mean.. it's been working, the stock price is up..
but at the cost of the longterm health of the business

>> No.51328822

>>51328591
disgusting

>> No.51328830

>>51328591
She either has the fattest pussy ever or a massive pair of balls brother.

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Does market go up or down after JPOW speaks?

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Reminder that Friday, September 16th is a QUAD WITCH.

>> No.51328873

>>51328620
$85B in stock buybacks last year. Someone has to keep the ponzi going

>> No.51328929

>>51328837
yes

>> No.51328958

Will ECB rate hikes hurt or help stocks?

>> No.51328978

>>51328958
yeah

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I hate ETF boomers and I don't know why they are even browsing this general

>> No.51328997

>>51328714
That's a small order right? 25 Million € something like that?

>> No.51329001

> Former Disney, $DIS, CEO Bob Iger said the entertainment giant had determined that a "substantial portion" of Twitter's, $TWTR, users were "not real" in 2016, when Disney was weighing a purchase of the social network.

Imagine Disney owning twitter, lel

>> No.51329036

>>51328798
so if things go badly and they have trouble servicing their debt, they'll sell equity and crash the price, thus doing a high volume high impact kind of buy high sell low? lmao

>> No.51329040

Do anons not know that you can look up corporate bonds? The interest on Apple’s corporate paper is exceptionally low compared to their peers.

>> No.51329052

I wanna hear Christine say the words, war, pain, death, freezing, famine and raising interest rates all in the same speech.

>> No.51329073

>>51329001
I don’t even think they needed to do much research to determine that. They also saw how bad Verizon’s purchase of Yahoo and Tumblr went and realized that they can’t make any money from it.

>> No.51329089

FUCKING NIGGERS!!!!

>> No.51329096

>>51329040
I think anons just think "debt = bad" which is true for personal finance but not true when running a business.

Apple takes on debt because they can very easily afford to, not because they need to in order to survive.

>> No.51329098

>that dump and pump from completely expected news
Why?

>> No.51329107

>>51329040
>Do anons not know that you can look up corporate bonds?
no
>The interest on Apple’s corporate paper
but surely it would rise with fed hikes, right?

>> No.51329122

>>51329098
Nothing is ever truly priced in anon. The market just kind of forgets.

>> No.51329135

>>51329036
theoretically that could happen, but their balance sheet is still very, very strong
it would require a massive economic downturn, and a huge shift in consumer behavior away from their products
they're still almost 60% marketshare of US smart phones, and ~25% worldwide

>> No.51329138

75 basis points now watch DAX crash to its years low

>> No.51329141

>>51329001
>Imagine Disney owning twitter
It would be better if Disney owned Pornhub, and they could make high budget Disney Princess pornos.

>> No.51329151

>>51328958
Update it hurts

>> No.51329186

>>51329151
Why would a stronger Euro be good for equities markets? Surely you're educated enough to know how the economy works, right?

>> No.51329183

>>51328830
I think he would know if his wife had balls.

>> No.51329204

>>51329036
BBBY spent $14 billion on buybacks over the last decade just to dilute shareholders when the company is slightly under $1 billion in market cap, which is the worst case of buy high sell low I've seen ever.

>> No.51329205

>>51329098
Fleshies can not comprehend the complexity of daily algo pnds

>> No.51329206

>>51329186
Stronger euro means they can buy more US stonks :)

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>>51329107
The coupon is a fixed amount while the yield can change because of the price of the bond

>> No.51329219

Really want to drop a grand into YPF. It's highly rated as a buy and has climbed all week. Lads what do you think?

>> No.51329244

>>51329186
My thinking was stronger euro = comparatively weaker dollar = stocks up

Apparently I know nothing

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>>51329206
>stonks
go back :)

>> No.51329258

>>51329219
>relying on analysts to make buy decisions
lmao
it's a bear market, stop buying things

>> No.51329288

>>51329001
It's not that outlandish. Disney was on a buying spree when Kevin Meyer was Iger's second-in-command. Aside from the brands like Marvel/Lucasfilm/Fox, BAMTech (formerly the streaming company behind the NHL and MLB) is what eventually became Disney+, and will likely replace Hulu. I think Starwave was another tech acquisition, but that's fallen to the wayside a bit.
Point being, Disney is buying smaller companies all the time.

>> No.51329290

>>51329244
this thinking is not incorrect
when the euro rises, due to its heavy weighting in dollar index = dollar falls relative = stock market positive
when the dollar falls it is bullish for the market, but it doesn't guarantee the market to rise by any means

>> No.51329301

average inflation rates in the EU of 8.1% for 2022, 5.5% for 2023 and 2.3% for 2024.

>> No.51329317

Growth of 3.1% for 2022, of 0.9% for 2023 and of 1.9% for 2024

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>>51328591
I would. She cute. Good job.

>> No.51329347
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>>51329301
Sounds pretty good to me.
Or is it?

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>>51329347
If those numbers were accurate, sure.

Do you trust them to predict correctly after the past 2 years of bullshit?

>> No.51329374

Why'd pre-market take so long to dump in response to those jobless numbers?

>> No.51329384
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It's official. Lagarde just announced 75bps. Also Queen Elizabeth just went into the emergency room.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/watch-christine-lagarde-speak-after-the-ecb-announces-rate-hike/ar-AA11BcEG

>> No.51329389

>>51329290
Apparently the fact that Europe is fucked counteracts the weaker dollar then?

>> No.51329390

https://www.forexlive.com/news/us-initial-jobless-claims-22k-vs-240k-estimate-20220908/
>Initial jobless claims 222K vs 240K estimate. >Lowest since May 27 week. The prior week was revised to 228K from 232K
>Lowest since May 27 week
the jobs market is still very hot..
would be a shame for someone to come out and throw some cold water on the heat..

>> No.51329405

>>51328412
>Apple

goddamn it, why can't it be Microsoft or Amazon getting fucked by bankruptcy instead?

>> No.51329411

>>51329389
yeah it could be that, but it also could be the economic data showing that the US economy is still 'hot' requiring more Fed action
also could be the instability in debt market, a little bit of fear bond buying today (not too bad)

>> No.51329420

>>51324075
If hedgies are long puts, then MMs are short those very same puts, and MMs don't lose

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>>51329384
Based

>> No.51329441

>>51329384
Way to go and kill the Queen Christine.

>> No.51329443

>>51329347
They have had to adjust the data significantly upwards. In July, they said 2022 at 6.8%, 2023 and 2024 3.5% and 2.1%, respectively. Most likely they will adjust them again...

>> No.51329455
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Is shorting KOLD basically free money? Even if crude goes down, I can't see realistically how natural gas will even dip any time soon.

>> No.51329464

>>51329384
So look like everything on earth want to create the biggest bear market ever huh, how bib that bear gonna be?

>> No.51329482

>>51329455
Nat gas just came down 20% from ATH and is notorious for shitcoin-like volatility

>> No.51329484

it's fucking dumping holy shit

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>>51329301
>2.3% for 2024
lmao. haha.

>> No.51329494

>>51329389
The Euros can’t keep raising rates forever because they would start literally destroying countries in the EU that are in debt up to their eyeballs (Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal). While the US is also in debt up to their eyeballs, they have the world’s reserve currency, so they can get away with more rate hikes than the Euros can, which means in the short to medium term, the US dollar will keep getting stronger, which is bad for stocks

>> No.51329503

>>51329484
>it's fucking dumping
wow, anything dumping in 2022, what a shock

>> No.51329531

>>51329443
Why doesn't the Queen of the ECB just declare a 10% rate hike, get inflation back to where it should be according to inflation projections circa 2016, and then bring rates down as needed instead of what they're doing now? It's like they don't actually give a fuck.

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>>51329489
it is totally obvious

>> No.51329569

>>51329531
Because both US and EU already have a shitton of debt and they are barely able to pay the interest.

>> No.51329581

>>51329531
If she does that, she kills greece, Italy, spain and all the others, triggering extreme right wing movement against EU-> No more EU

>> No.51329588

1000bps hike check em

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Queenie was kinda cute tho ngl

>> No.51329603

>>51329455
yes and no
consensus is that this winter is going to be horrible for EU, now that Nord Stream 1 is cut off completely, all of EU will be struggling, will need to drastically increase imports / new natural gas deals
US natural gas is still $7.85 per mmBTU whereas TTF is $62.56
the arbitrage opportunity is still so great, where you can buy natural gas in the US and sell it to EU, making $250+ million on a single shipment
freeport LNG terminal is starting back up sooner than expected in October
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-03/us-natural-gas-surges-on-deal-for-october-lng-terminal-restart?leadSource=uverify%20wall
which will allow export of natural gas to Europe again in big quantities - it *should* drive up the price of US gas, to get closer to the EU gas price
however..
Germany has already filled 80% of their gas reserves more than 2 months ahead of schedule
The crisis may be overblown, where everybody is positioned long, too much so, where all it can do is fall
The contrarian play is to short natural gas, to long KOLD
I am skeptical that the crisis is as bad as it is being made out to be, but we will see

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>>51329384
At least they're not speaking German...

>> No.51329672

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>> No.51329673

>>51329581
>triggering extreme right wing movement against EU
Where's the fucking problem?

>> No.51329676

>>51326259
its a magpul, ive cycled through the whole thing multiple times captain cope

>> No.51329694

Testing!

>> No.51329708

>>51328991
I only buy and hold leveraged ETFs for a maximum of 30 seconds how dare you say this

>> No.51331569

>>51329135
Consumer behavior between 2010-2021 was heavily influenced by the easy access to employment and credit. People spending $1k every year or two for a new phone that is almost identical to the last, just because it’s hip to have the newest thing. That shit will not continue when the economy begins to cool off

>> No.51331635

>>51329534
Not when the EU continues to print even more money so they can hand it out to people and businesses who are struggling because of high inflation. At this point it almost seems like they are deliberately trying to get their little union to go down the shitter

>> No.51332082

aeva to $50

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OUTTA MY WAY YOU BOBO FUCKING SHITS

>> No.51332142

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>> No.51332859

$prty doing alright. should i hold for meme pump or cash out around 3-3.50$ range?

>> No.51332897

>>51332142
>down 50% ath
lol lmao

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And we're back!

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