/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>51320881
this is bullish you retard, means everyone is short

this doesnt mean anything, its only 8billion and theyre just hedging older positions

>>51320890
This.

The bottom is in

321 go YAAAAAAAAAAAAA

What are put options? And why are they bad?

>>51320890
>>51320923

>>51320890
explain it to me like i'm retarded (cuz i am)

>>51320972
The same people that though the market will go up 10 months ago, now think that the market will drop like rock.

>>51320881
The Fed pause is coming up in November or December. We will go down a little until then, but there isn’t going to be a precipitous drop. And lord help you if you’re on the wrong side when Powell starts talking about a pause. The melt up will rip faces off.

>>51321009
>the market
you mean speculative assets?

>>51320881
Bullish. Notice they bought more puts at the bottom in 2008.

everything is bullish on biz apparently lol

i have no shorts or longs open so stfu im unbiased, but this place takes bulltardism to a whole new level

its been near almost 1 year almost of u cunts spamming how everything is bullish despite everything decaying

this decay could go on for years you dont know

>>51320972
>Be greedy when others are fearful be fearful when others are greedy.
Everyone is short right now which means (((the ones in charge))) are going to liquidate them causing a cascade.

>>51321567
You really think we’re gonna flip to bullish with oil reserves draining, supply chains fucked, Chinese housing imploding and Europe about to freeze to death?

>>51321567
>feels>reals
well at least I'll have the satisfaction of seeing a bunch of retards proven wrong once again before I starvefreeze to death

>>51321722
Bullish post

>>51321856
I don't know what to think.
Half of you fuckers are saying this is good, half you are saying this is bad.

>>51321918
no one is saying this is good
/biz/ is always contrarian and trying to play against consensus
shit is so bleak right now that they can't even fathom the drop from here so they engage in mental gymnastics to arrive at an imaginary bull case

>>51321918
It’s a controlled demolition and the (((institutions))) are shorting everything because it’s all coming down. This seems worse than 2008. At least everything came down fast, but there was a fuckton of denial back then too. People thought the market was gonna bounce any moment.

>>51322000
Super shemtiah look it up there is a thread

>>51321918
>Half of you fuckers are saying this is good, half you are saying this is bad.
It's bad for most. All of us here anyway.

Well the thing is, if you look at the big winners of the 1929 crash it was guys who were shorting the market.
But now, everybody knows that and sees a mega crash looming on the horizon, so everybody has the same idea; "Short the market just like they did in 1929!"
(((Insiders))) are always two steps ahead of the game though; I think the bizjack that was saying all these shorts are gonna get rugged by jews is probably correct in his assessment.

>>51322082
How can you rug puts when the economy is guaranteed to shit though

>>51321567
>The S&P500 has never lost ground.
I'm not saying it will but,
>past performance is not a guarantee of future results

>>51322093
literally a gorillion dollar question

The financial dating committee or whatever they're called historically only declare a recession after its already peaked or ended.
If everyone is thinking this is the end to end all ends then I'm going to keep investing in BTC that I will likely never sell

>>51322093
>How can you rug puts when the economy is guaranteed to shit though
My guess, It would vindicate the experts that have been warning the stock market is mostly if not completely disconnected from the real world.

>>51321856
hey guys word on the street is that oil reserves are draining, supply chains are fucked, Chinese housing is imploding and Europe is about to freeze to death. I'm going to sell right now.

>>51320881
>Countdown to economic crash now
how many fortnights until said crash?

>>51322271
Have fun. You might get one more bear market rally before the massive crash, but crash it will. Screencap this

Dammit biz we gotta circle the wagons and learn to think like jews here. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to make a whole lot of money if we can figure out a game-plan to buck the system.

>>51320881
>FFS
Likely one book. $8B is lol for institutional as a market participant class.

>>51320881
clear bottom

>>51320972

>everything is risk/ reward.
>the risk of of betting on an economic collapse has to reflect the reward you get shorting.
>The more shorts there are means the reward you get drops
>at a certain point the reward/ risk ratio flips and it becomes better to long
>normally when the masses start swinging into one direction soon after the opposite is actually the better play and thus the more likely outcome.
>the question is if enough people have now swung into short (bear market) that now it's actually time for it to swing back to a long position (bull market)?

the data suggests that shorts are over saturated and therefore there needs to be a correction (pump) or that the bear market is near end. either way its short term bullish.

>>51321856
Its priced in

>>51322469
the 8b represents a lot more as it's a derivative

>>51322404
>Dammit biz we gotta circle the wagons and learn to think like jews here.
Don’t fight the jew until you’ve significantly profited off its trades

>>51322599
even if they are levered up and buying degen options that represents a fraction of daily trading volume

Rise so high, yet so far to fall
A plan of dignity and balance for all
Political breakthrough, euphoria's high
More borrowed money, more borrowed time

Backed in a corner, caught up in the race
Means to an end ended in disgrace
Perspective is lost in the spirit of the chase

Foreclosure of a dream
Those visions never seen
Until all is lost, personal holocaust
Foreclosure of a dream

Barren land that once filled a need
Are worthless now, dead without a deed
Slipping away from an iron grip
Nature's scales are forced to tip

The heartland cries, loss of all pride
To leave ain't believing, so try and be tried
Insufficient funds, insanity, and suicide

Foreclosure of a dream
Those visions never seen
Until all is lost, personal holocaust
Foreclosure of a dream

"The Congress will push me to raise taxes, and I'll say 'No, read my lips
Read my lips!"

Now with new hope, some will be proud
This is no hoax, no one pushed out
Receive a reprieve and be a pioneer
Break new ground of a new frontier

New ideas will surely get by
No deed, no dividend; some may ask "Why?"
You'll find the solution, the answer's in the sky

Rise so high, yet so far to fall
A plan of dignity and balance for all
Political breakthrough, euphoria's high
More borrowed money, more borrowed time

Foreclosure of a dream
Those visions never seen
Until all is lost, personal holocaust
Foreclosure of a dream

Foreclosure of a dream
Those visions never seen
Until all is lost, personal holocaust
Foreclosure of a dream

Holocaust...

If any of you payed any attention the past few months, you'd know the ultra-kikelords emptied the gold and silver vaults used to back their ETFs and are about to default on comex/LBMA/CME Group deliveries.
(((They))) are about to rugpull the world by retransitioning back from an illusion of wealth fueled by fake digital assets -completely disconnected from the real economy- toward an economy based on commodities.
Stocks, unbacked currencies, shitcoins, bonds,... all the talmudic alchemical wealth created from nothingness will get destroyed. Or more accurately, transfered.

Putin literally warned you back in June it was about to occur before EOY.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT0UzjGXnSU

>>51322739
So buy ICP

>>51322739
Shemitah ends 9/26.
> Farmers in Israel are required by Jewish law to keep Shmita, letting their fields lie fallow for a full year, once every seven years.
This year

Is Puts new? I can't find this coin on any exchange I know of.

>>51322739

>trying to buy gold
>gold keeps dumping
fuck

>>51322781
Among the countless options i have to park my fiat in, icy pee would literally be the very last one.

>>51322848
Yep, it also remind me of the really hermetic speech Lagarde made about the magic number 7 in 2014, and how we would have 7 years of prosperity, followed by a collapse. She is really high in the masonic/templar spheres.

>>51322967
Now I know you’re gaslighting

>>51322340
A single fortnight more, brother. Prepare every needful thing.

>>51321908
this

>>51321047
This is so much bigger than Powell and the Fed at this point. The Euro and Yen are collapsing. We're seeing a fire sale of U.S. treasuries which is only going to accelerate. The Fed is helpless. The idea that they're still in control of the levers in this market is the height of midwitery.

Inflation will come in cool causing a pump
Fed may raise 75 causing a dump
Then we have a bull run until the end of the year before we start dumping again

>>51322992
Meanwhile i already knew you were desperatly shilling your worthless bags of piss.

>>51322934
That's the entire point. Since the banksters want to settle the SLV/GLD contracts for cash, they want to tank it to the lowest point possible before declaring effective default (on physical deliveries).
That's why the registered accounts are currenctly so low in the comex, all while those same entities are full short positionned.

This is unironically the opportunity of a lifetime. You buy gold for a giga discount the kikes created to rugpull the world.

>>51321567
>invent an arbitrary statistic
>Holy shit guys, check this out!!

>>51320890
Came here to say this

>>51320890
Those are protective puts, you retard.
Those aren't naked puts where you profit if market falls, they just want to protect value of their stocks. They don't "gain" from fall, they only "don't lose" if stocks fall.

>>51320881
Yeah but that graph isn't normalized for the growth in equity market cap, which has gone from $10t in 2008 vs $41t today... so it's not 3x more, it's actually a good bit less.

>source: mrblonde

how do i profit off this?

>>51320890
That would be the case except retail are still hodling stocks. The wealth transfer is just beginning

>>51323495
Profit what? Paper assets?
They will all be worthless.
You can only hedge at this point.
Take your paper and buy necessities needed to live. Shelter, food, water. If you’re completely stacked on that then you can buy precious metals, but these are likely not to help you.

>>51321567
>If you just redraw the lines then my made up shit is true. I predicted the future!
I hope this guy goes in 10x long

>>51322093
The fact that YOU think its guaranteed to shit, is how they do the rug pull. What made you from this opinion of everything about to shit?

>mainstream media
>twitter
>analysts
>doomers

All these could be real sources showing you real information, but the information they choose to highlight is what creates the narrative. Thats the rug pull.

They can't control the entire market but they can control what narrative the public gets to hear.

>>51320947
It basically means that they're betting that the market is about to crash.

>>51321567
2008 was the false alarm. 2022 is the real deal. Screencap this.

>>51324966
It means they're betting on a sharp dip and recovery. Otherwise they'd sell the assets they're holding rather than buy insurance against their value.

>>51321856
>freeze
Not gonna happen. Bailout already on table in UK. Announcement expected soon. Can will be kicked further down road

>>51322082
People shorting are going to get liquidated cause Inflation makes stocks go up faster than the money printer

>>51325011
They can’t sell. Corporate debt needs to be sustained at all costs.
In other words, they’re trapped and fucked

>>51321722
Buy signal if I’ve ever seen one

>>51321722
Quintessentially bullish

>>51322000
Yup, 99% of everything is going to fuck, completely

>>51322093
>>51324934
its easy to spin the narrative too
just announce promising Russia/energy market/covid shit

>>51323091
Actual good take. Ive been wondering why commodities saw no spike even when everything else dumped.
It should have at least created a support but no that shot keeps dumping

>>51322967
>Yep, it also remind me of the really hermetic speech Lagarde made about the magic number 7 in 2014, and how we would have 7 years of prosperity, followed by a collapse. She is really high in the masonic/templar spheres.
interesting, this must be it:
https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2015/09/28/04/53/sp011514

>>51325341
look honey, if the country needs X amount of energy (TWh/PWh/EWh) in X amount of timeframe and Y amount of energy delivered is lower than X then X-Y=Z and someone will NOT have Z. You can print money all day long, it will not produce Z. You need to generate Z and it won't come out of thin air.

>>51320890
Using the word retard conveys a lack of confidence in your ideas.

>>51322967
> Icey pee would be the very last one
That's why you won't make it, for some reason the investment feels so retarded it's guaranteed to pump.

>>51321722
bottom signal

>>51321722
thanks just went all in

>LE EPIC STOCK MARKET WIDE SHORT SQUEEZE

>>51321722
Just liquidated all my short positions

>>51321856
stop falling for sensationalized headlines

>>51322599
wrong. you have it perfectly backwards.

>>51322082
Some high up Citi employee went on CNBC and said that the summer pump was just to liq late shorters. Like 2 seconds after she said that they abruptly said “oh sorry, we have to go!”

>>51325376
Thats not the case, sure venezuelan stocks rocketed higher but the currency lost value faster.

>>51322184
>I'm going to keep investing in BTC that I will likely never sell
You'll never sell because bitcoin will be worth nothing soon.

>>51325341
Bailout for what? Does bailing something out print new oil into existence? Why do you think the prices are rising retard? The oil is running out. Until they’re printing oil your bailout means nothing, retard

>>51321567
>modern markets
kek, zoom out, faggot. The modern markets have never had a post-pandemic globalist agenda trying to butcher its citizens en masse

>>51325696
>investment feels

>>51323495
if i owned that i would probably stick my dick in at some point

>>51321567
Holy shit. How delusional can you cows be?

>>51323091
I’m getting exposure to the precious metals gains caused by a comex default by investing in junior mining stocks. Unironically aiming for a 100x.

>>51322967
>>51325546
>really hermetic speech Lagarde made about the magic number 7 in 2014
meds