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Pikmin stacking edition.

>Why Gold?
https://youtu.be/i3S4rl6ehiI
https://youtu.be/gksenA5Al_A
https://youtu.be/FI7NnOg2rxo

>Bullion Dealers
https://jmbullion.com/ (US)
https://goldsilver.be/en/ (BE/EU)
https://www.chards.co.uk/ (UK)
more at: https://pastebin.com/gZfZHtNE

>Russian/European Coins
https://oldsilver.ru/ (EU/UK/US)

>Constitutional/"Junk" Silver Info
https://jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/
https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/
http://coinflation.com
http://coinapps.com/

>Compare Spot Price Websites
https://findbullionprices.com/ (US)
https://eu.compare.pm (EU)
https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle/ (DE/EU)

>News
https://www.silverdoctors.com/
http://silverseek.com/
https://mining.com/

>Bullion Tax Info By State:
https://apmex.com/state-sales-tax-information

>Prospecting
https://youtu.be/ZCL6FKQZyoM
https://usgs.gov/energy-and-minerals/mineral-resources-program/science
https://gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/mineral-exploration-mining/documents/mineral-titles/mt-faqs/faq_fmc.pdf
https://mndm.gov.on.ca/en/mines-and-minerals/mining-act
https://amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Test
Nitric Acid, Magnets and Ping Test
https://youtu.be/3mg9YcAShTo
https://youtu.be/NgSXg-WOEVY
https://youtu.be/2ymGAyKAg-k
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/identifying-fake-bullion

>Relevant Information Regarding Mining Companies
https://pastebin.com/5aLmWUUK

Previous Thread: >>51294611

>> No.51313742
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First for God and Jesus

>> No.51313814

Based OP image and based first post. This will be a good bread.

>> No.51313833
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>>51313814
Thanks, anon. It took me so long to make that pic. Let the comfy metal posting begin.

>> No.51313873
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Fresh stacker here. Bought several different coins to see which I liked. The most impressive looking one is definitely the leaf. The detail and finish is just insane. The absolute worst was the silver eagle. The eagle is just dull and looks like shit.

My 2nd fav is the armenian noahs ark. Really nice looking coin on the ark side. However, on the crest side it was missing some detail on the shield so that was a little disappointing.

Is it ever worth paying a higher premium to stack things like leafs?

>> No.51313900
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new coin

>> No.51313977
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Behold: premium higher than spot; the bars

>> No.51314000

>>51313977
Swiss chocolate is so good. Did you get plain milk chocolate or do any of those have hazelnut or something?

>> No.51314005

>>51313873
I think so yeah. Safer and more reputable in most people's eyes, I reckon, because it's govt issued. Also has some security measures and it's 99.99% pure instead of 99.9%. Not that it matters, but I like the flex.

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Based on the recent uptick in withdrawals from COMEX, what's the new estimated month/year for default?
>inb4 2 more weeks

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Dammnn, I just realized that Sherrie has some nice milkers.

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When will the Chris Chan trial begin and at what point will my Kiwicoin have the most resale value because of it?

>> No.51314106

>>51313833
I can tell, it looks good. I have fond memories of Pikmin from when I was younger. I love those little fellas like you wouldn't believe.

>>51313873
I recently got my first silver maple and I agree that it beats the brakes off the ASE.

>> No.51314215

you know what fuck you
*unsilvers your currency*

>> No.51314246

>>51314215
don't care still stacking

>> No.51314258

>>51314246
/me scatters your stack
nice pile idiot

>> No.51314341

>>51314258
> *it was my decoy aluminum stack*
> "psshhh... your skill level is weak........."

>> No.51314375

>>51314341
>it was a holocoin
dang rused again

>> No.51314552
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51314552

What are some cheap but good comemoratives to look out for? I really want a Columbian half dollar
>>51313833
Nice job, loved Pikmin 1 and 2. Got the Canadian version of 2 on eBay during covid because it has unique cover art, I love it

>> No.51314584

What % of your assets is in PMs??

>> No.51314664

>>51314584
69%

>> No.51314677

I made a /pmg/ Discord to discuss stuff in. Code is KKhjRept

>> No.51314714
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>>51313717
How do I get more people into stacking? Met an old friend again after a couple of years and he told me he was stacking which was a very pleasant surprise but he has been trying to get one of our mutual friends to stack for a couple of months now and nothing has worked.

Do you guys have ideas or suggestions?

>> No.51314780

>>51314664
Homina homina homina awoooooga

>> No.51314853
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Hello fellow gold chads, how are you enjoying the last season of Europe

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>>51314714
>Do you guys have ideas or suggestions?
I've tried small gifts of interesting bullion, cool coins like Mercs and Walking liberty halves and sterling silver trinkets but even after explaining things it depends on the individual and their wiring whether or not the seeds germinate.

>> No.51314942

>>51314106
>a leaf and a lizard
>beats an eagle and liberty
cringe

>> No.51314978

>>51314584
like 1/2 unfortunately cus i fell for the collapse meme. fortunately much of it is in ASEs and slabbed graded gold coinage. i am considering selling my generic gold bars. wish i never bought these 10 oz germania bars

>> No.51314994

>>51314853
the last season sucks, the writers are fucking everything up

>> No.51315007

>>51314942
eagle has shit finish and just looks cheap. That's what happens when niggers manufacture things I suppose

Highest premium for the worst looking coin. Even the generic apmex rounds I got look better. I will never buy another eagle

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>>51314853
The last season of Europe was Summer of 1914.
Still their present collapse is especially enjoyable collapse since it's almost entirely their own doing and could've avoided it years ago if they weren't so high off their own farts.

>> No.51315112

>fell for the pm meme
>ordered some gold ouce bars
>physical carries a premium over """certificates"""
>pay for shipping, shipping insurance, plus tax
>Pay some local dealer to verify they're not filled with tungsten
>be years later
>decide to sell
>"Of course Mr. Goy, you cand send us your bars to us. We only pay slightly below spot price for physical I'm sure you understand."
>ship them the bars anyway.
>a couple weeks later...
>I'm so sorry Mr. Goy, our internal department determined the bars you sent us are filled with tungsten!"
>I'm sorry Mr Goy but the bars are already on the way to Isra...er to the disposal facility so we can't return them back you. Pls understand.

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>>51313742
Based and amen.
>>51313900
Checked, and it looks beautiful fren. I just got a Mining Rescue service medal (pic related) in my order from Charlie Alpha November Uniform Papa. I know it's exonumia, but it's just awesome looking.

>> No.51315195

>>51315112
cucked

>> No.51315225
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>>51315112
>pay some local dealer
You can verify that yourself, anon.

>> No.51315243

>>51315112
>buying gold bars
Why? If you're buying gold you should only buy coins, the premium is already really low and they have the security features built-in.

I only see silver bars be a reasonable bar to buy since coins have a high premium right now.

>> No.51315333

>>51315007
Maples aren’t a bad alternative to eagles. But the other anon is right. Maples don’t hold a candle to Eagles. The maple is a soulless coin. Wow a maple leaf, really? The walking liberty design is iconic and inspiring.

>> No.51315362

>>51315243
Perth mint or pamp suisse gold bars with assay cards seem ok to me. But you are correct. Just buy coins.

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>>51313742
Amen

>> No.51315424

>>51314942
I don't like the lizard queen but she's on a good coin.

>>51315333
ASEs have a better design for sure, but their finish is trash like you said. A maple really shines. Plus ASEs needed to be "special" and require their own size of capsule/tube for storage.

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>>51314552
>Columbian halves
The 1892 is generally a little bit pricer than the 93 because it matches the 42. Can still be found for the same price as pre64 junk if you look around.

>Commem Modern Silver Dollars
Great way to stack USD backed silver. I like to scoop them up from $18-$21 with the box and coa, but those aren't a requirement.

>1982 Washington Halves
I've seen a lot of these lately going for standard face value or slightly above. Anytime you can snag something US backed and slightly numismatic for the same price as generic pre64 it's a good buy. Picrel was bought at $20fv

You do this enough and you start to see how the premiums on the numismatic stuff all tend to return to a mean value. There are a small few outliers, but in general whether it be coins, spoons, or jewelry- it all falls back to it's metal content. Just look at how much you can sell canadian junk silver to a refinery for. Same price as scrap essentially.

>> No.51315596

>>51315333
Walking liberty is kinda lame compared to britannia. They should have just stuck with the morgan design that was way better.

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>>51303225
Hey Fren, I found the reverse for your coin design.

>> No.51315691

>>51315537
>1982 washington halves
I've never seen these before, can you post some?
Also I agree with proof sets right now, most are incredibly cheap because Coin shops are getting flooded with them by boomers and hate them. I just bought the 2005 silver proof set for the same price as US 90% since the shop was so sick of them never being sold. Granted I legitimately like them and buy for numsifagging reasons, not so much for stacking.

>> No.51315750

>>51314552
I'll trade you a columbus half for 4 silver quarters, as was the original selling price at the fair :)

>> No.51315905

>>51315677
Checked and awesome eagle design. The obverse is pretty mommy -I mean, cool too.

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>>51315691
1/3
Sure thing. I hadn't seen any of these for a long time, and then they started showing up recently in a lot of local auctions. There was a recent death of a silver stacker in my area and one of the local auction houses had something like 13 or 14 different coin auctions to sell off all his stuff. He had a lot of US Mint boxed stuff. I've been watching some of it sell and scooping up some for myself when the deal is right.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces4403.html

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>>51315691
>>51316074
2/3

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>>51315691
>>51316120
3/3

>> No.51316432

anyone know how long silvergoldbull deals last before they rotate out? asked in last thread, not bites

>> No.51316503

>>51315596
I really don’t like the Brit. Maybe because I’m American. Honestly, the Roo is better than the Brit. So is the Krug. The Phil is trash and the Chinese can take their 30g and shove it. The panda also looks bad in person. These are just my opinions.

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>>51314853
Lovely.

>>51316432
Not 100% sure about them, but most online dealers have weekly deals. Each week, they have new deals and will spam your inbox.

t. stacker who has purchased from all the major ones and got added to their weekly emails and have since unsubscribed from them all

>>51316503
I disagree. I think the pandas and the Britannias are the best looking coins with the best security features. Britannias are my stacking coin of choice desu, and it's a big bonus that their premiums are some of the smallest.

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Who wants to sell their gilded yotsuba?

>> No.51316797

>>51313717
Just bought my first 1g of PAMP lads

>> No.51316980

wow, ag almost back up to 19

>> No.51317018

>>51316797
Nice, gold is good. If possible though, save your pennies for a bit longer and buy larger sizes to save on the premium. Where did you get it?

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GOLD

>> No.51317205

>>51317150
what watch fren

>> No.51317277
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>>51317205
Tudor Black Bay 58.

>> No.51317282

>>51313717
This reminds me of my /wg/ days
There were so many wallpapers that looked like this.

>> No.51317301

>>51313717
Fiat apocalypse $10K gold and $1k silver

>> No.51317321
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>>51316980
NO IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO DOWN TO 17 SO I COULD SLUURRRRP

>> No.51317467

>>51317301
>apocalypse
>gold and silver priced in dollars
Ngmi bro

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>>51317277
Impressive, very nice.

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Remember what All Might says
>Real heroes never stop stacking!

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>>51314853
hoping for an epic finale

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>>51314853
I think I'll be buying more soon. Silver especially has nice discount now compared to when I bought last year.

>> No.51318218

>>51315407
man I really need to start praying my rosaries again

>> No.51318259
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goldchads, I've got a good feeling about this...

>> No.51318439
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Got my yotsuba today, such a nice coin.

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>>51318439
Whoa, is that a Dollfie? I'm jelly! Lovely photo with the Yotsuba. Very happy for you. Thanks for sharing.

>> No.51318649
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>>51316980
>we are about to pump big guy

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>>51318649
They bought?

>> No.51319060

>>51318191
Why does gold look so much better when it’s next to silver?

>> No.51319093

>>51319060
why does my dick looks so much better next to yours

>> No.51319099
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>>51318439
>>51318488

>> No.51319135

>>51319099
kill yourself

>> No.51319148

>>51318649
we better fucking not

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>>51319093
OwO

>> No.51319385

>>51319099
based

>> No.51319397

>>51319242
its been a long time since i bought any gold. i think i should get another ounce.

suggestions? kind of wanted a gold phillie but considering a second britannia

>> No.51319434

>>51319397
>suggestions?
sort by: cheapest

>> No.51319483
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new Harry Potter gold+silver coin range coming out tomorrow lads
as long as Lucas doesn't sperg out and ddos royalmint.com

>> No.51319508

>>51319397
I am partial to the Britannia. The wiener is neat cause it's big, but I think the Britannia has better security features and much cooler iconography. Just be aware that they pump out the Britannias and they can have uneven/sharp edges. The wiener is flawless though, albeit a little more boring. If I had neither and were considering both, I'd just do what >>51319434 says. Now that I have both though, I'd buy another 1 oz Britannia before another 1 oz wiener.

>>51319483
Oh, that's cool. I only got into Harry Potter recently. It's comfy. Excited to see what designs the Royal Mint unveils.

>> No.51319526

>>51319093
>faggot detected.

Don't worry bro it's OK so long as you stack pms.

>> No.51319534

>>51319508
never really cared for Harry Potter
a LOTR (classic, non-amazon pozzed) range would have been preferable
>>51319526
don't be weird mate, let's measure dicks

>> No.51319572

>>51319397
I buy limited run. Last I got was the 1 oz lunar tiger bar. I try to get good value stuff but also stuff I think could be worth more fiat in the future due to scarcity.

>> No.51319600

>>51319534
It's only weird if we touch tips

>> No.51319613

>>51318951
I did just buy, pls no.

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>>51319534
Niue has a 2021 line of LotR silver and gold coins. They look a little cheesy to me though.

>> No.51319643

>>51313873
those are fun but go for 10 oz bars and kilos if you really want to stack for the lowest premium

dont forget to buy a little gold too

>> No.51319698

>>51314714
nothing works really; if the person is going to stack they will stack, all it takes is being introduced to the concept for a stacker to start

normies wont, and then they will complain about lviing paycheck to paycheck or being broke. you can say "hey check it out, i have money and its because i stack" and they still wont get it.

its better to not tell others generally unless the are already a stacker IMO

>> No.51319707

>>51319630
agreed
the industrial might of Niue (population 1650) isn't quite up to the task

>> No.51319718

>>51317321
>goes to 17
>premiums keep it over 20 bucks delivered

yup

>> No.51319722
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>>51319397
It's like a libertad that doesn't cost a ton.

>> No.51319730

>>51313900
Beautiful

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>>51319718
This picture has become even more true because silver is always the same damn price thanks to elastic premiums. Bullion dealers must be getting fat.

>> No.51319805

>>51318488
Checked and thanks anon

>> No.51319822

>>51319483
>>51319397
based, looks like im getting some wizard gold

>> No.51319833

>>51319483
If this isn't unreasonably priced, I might buy one.

>> No.51319852

>>51319483
Will this be the Shrek coin of our generation? I might try to snag a few as well. Bet there's profit to be had.

>> No.51319866

>>51319822
A wizard on one side and a lizard on the other, lol.

>> No.51319885
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>>51319852
I wonder how badly the Royal Mint's HP lineup will mog the Niue's line.

>> No.51319929

>>51319885
as long as its reasonably priced and not like the dobby proof which had insane premiums. gave dobby my cum sock btw

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>>51319885
He looks like he's about to "zap to the extreme" or something.

>> No.51320024

Are we ever going to see gains from this endeavor? Like someone mentioned earlier, the dealers seem to be the only ones profiting here. Just hope I’m not wasting time effort and money.

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>>51319483
JK Rowling is a transphobic TERF so I will not be buying these coins

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>>51319483
JK Rowling is a leftist feminist so I will not be buying these coins

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>>51314853
>how are you enjoying the last season of Europe
keking hilarious

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>>51319986
Made kek out loud.

>>51320024
Metals are a long term investment. If "gains" are what you seek, I suggest buying metals with the lowest premiums and holding them for decades (and hope the price goes up ofc).

>>51320030
>>51320063
Well which is it!?

>> No.51320123

>>51320063
>>51320030
w-wait?

>> No.51320180

>>51316980
Of course it is. It's a wagiebucks week for me. This happens without fail.

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>>51313717
>PM spot price just keeps going down or crabbing
i don't feel so good bros.

>> No.51320521

I just bought something with partial payment in silver today. I'm down silver but up some art.

>> No.51320721

>>51320473
Are you looking to sell? If so, post stack and I'm sure anons here will buy from you. Let's see what you got?

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waited in line for almost 1 hour at the Central Bank today but I got 50 of these for $6.42. .3oz ASW. Figured out the Central Bank prices their silver and gold coins using the opening price of LME. So I got lucky as today when I bought them Ag had gone up 36cents. And they also charge VAT, but thats not a problem as I need the fiscal credit. 15oz for $321.

>> No.51320945

>>51320521
You bought art with silver? Bad trade my man

>> No.51320952
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>>51320473
Then you're buying precious metals for the wrong reason, friend. Read about the US banking and monetary system. There is a premium and interest owed on every single one of your paper dollars. The word "dollar" actually means silver, it's the english definitive of the "thaler" which literally means silver coin. This is what dollars were throughout US history, silver coins. Over time we switched to a more representative system of money, paper money you could redeem for a silver dollar whenever you wanted. The paper was a receipt for real money. Eventually people were convinced that the paper bills themselves were money and the bond between them was removed.
You are taking your government issue credits and exchanging them for real money. All of your ancestors considered silver money. And the exchange rate is getting better in your favor. You should feel great
If you're just buying to turn around and sell in a few years for a little profit when the prices go up, you're not in this for the right reason. You're still thinking of things in terms of fiat.

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>>51318439
Now that's a nice pic

>> No.51321247

>>51320473
I was gonna buy 100 more 1oz at like 20.68 but now it went up a dollar in the last two days
Silver is a rich man's game boys only a Rockefeller can afford these price hikes

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>>51319483
>as long as Lucas doesn't sperg out and ddos royalmint.com
You inspired me to make this lazy edit, anon.

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>>51318951
The lower it goes, the more I can buy. I see no problem with this.

>> No.51321394

>>51321247
The fuck are you on about, shill? Silver is at $18.51 right now you lying cunt.

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>>51319483
JK Rowling is Based. She made the (((bankers))) hooked nosed goblin jews.

>> No.51321600

>>51321394
durr but the premium is like $2.50 niggetbrain

>> No.51321649

>>51321600
>premium is a set price
turbofaggot shill

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>>51321398
Lul, I hope they do a greedy banker gold coin.

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>>51320473
This is like sitting on a lifeboat on the Titanic and the staff is pouring you drinks and serving you a four course meal before the boat hits the iceberg. Just enjoy it. PM prices are not going anywhere until some serious gangster shit goes down in the bond market. It's all paper trading from now until it implodes.

>> No.51322038

>>51314853
Quick rundown on those 100 coronal? Do you know when they were minted, 1970s?
Last just got some in and I'm seriously tempted. They are gorgeous

>> No.51322237
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From last thread
>>51305371
>WHERE
https://sdbullion.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=klondike
For $50 less than I paid. Grrr...

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>>51318951
>Cirno frostings
yes

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>>51322237
Still angry I missed out on the Pan Man coin.
>>51320895
Your central bank sells silver? Is that the only place to buy silver in your country?

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>>51318951
Make zem all poor.

>> No.51322724

>>51322237
>>51322541
>Arial

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>AUSSIES
Where is the best place to sell a couple 10oz bars of silver? I must sell them as I need the money. ABC bullion's buy price is insultingly low, what price range is fair you think?

>> No.51322894

>>51314994
Brace for Spock's Brain

>> No.51322907

>>51315150
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exonumia

Neat. And that is VERY nice looking.

>> No.51322994

>>51322890
wut anime

>> No.51323085

>>51322890
Post a pic of the bars. I might be interested. Im se Qld but travel a lot

>> No.51323171

>>51323085
I'll happily post a time stamped picture if you'll kindly answer my questions about price and any alternative places to sell. Where do people sell their silver, gumtree?

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>>51322994
Looks like something Rumiko Takahashi made. My first guess is Ran from Urusei Yatsura. It's a comfy old show, you should watch it.

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>>51314584
100%
I wish it was more, but it's mathematically impossible sadly.

>> No.51323492

>>51323397
lines are almost too smooth, looks like something made today in that style.

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>>51323492
>>51323397
>>51322994
saucenao gives the title

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>>51323492
I was thinking the image was a blueray release, those are always cleaner. If you made a Lum coin you could probably get some oldfags from /a/ to start stacking.

But >>51323532 is right. I checked and it's something I'm not familiar with.

>> No.51324232

>>51323171
Everyone on gumtree wants more than what I could buy it from my LCS. ABC bullion and Ainslie are your best bet for a quick sale. They offer pretty much the same price. A lot of LCS go off what Ainslie or ABC would offer too. I will offer you $30 / ozt which is what it costs at my LCS. Because I'm helping an anon out.

Where's my timestamps pic?

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>>51322541
>the Pan Man coin
I managed to score that, but the plastic assay card is scratched to shit. I'm soooo tempted to open the package so I can see it in all its glory.

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>>51324285
>>51322541
>>51322237
It looks more like honey or nectar than water to me

>> No.51324360

>>51321649
it mostly is, it sure as fuck aint at spot dipshit

>> No.51324427

>>51324358
Looks like a metaphor for liquid gold to me.

>> No.51324674

>germania kilos are more expensive per ozt than 1/2 kilos

>> No.51324723

>>51314584
3.3%.

>> No.51324736

When will gold moon, I’m sat on a fat stack like a dragon

>> No.51324857

>>51314584
20%, it would have been higher but we're saving for a down payment. Probably going to buy within the next month so we can move out of the inlaw's place. I know the housing market is about to crash, and a lot of people are panic selling right now, but I'm just looking for a place to live so I'm not paying the rent jew.

>> No.51324949

>>51323595
first /biz/, now /mlp/, soon every board will have a coin.

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>>51324232
Thanks for the info yeh I was thinking $30/Oz was probably about right. Here is your pic, post your contact if you are serious, I'm in Sydney. (I'm on mobile so my ID is different)

>> No.51325250

>>51317018
The Gold Bullion Company. I couldn't find any on Chards. The company looked legit enough

>> No.51325359
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Fiat currency... No I will overcome these heretics with Gold, and Silver. I will!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.51325552

Lately I've been feeling strange emotions towards my stack. I have progressed from fondling, to kissing, to sleeping and cuddling with. I want to take it to the next step, but I'm not sure if it'd be a wise choice. The last love I had was a pepperoni hot pocket, and when I finally made my move, I regretted it. Fresh out of the microwave, I ended up with second degree burns all over my genitals and thighs. It was one of the most embarrassing and painful times of my life, and for the following weeks I wanted to rope. Only by the love of God did I manage to make it through that extremely trying time. So understandably, I am apprehensive this time around. Will I be left brokenhearted again, or is advancing on my stack a smart play? Any input or similar tales to tell fellow stackers?

>> No.51325667

>>51325552
Make a fleshheavy. A vagina made out of pure AG. It won't be as high maintenance because silver is antibiotic.

>> No.51326118

>>51313717
Anybody have the stacking tiers image?

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>>51314853
*last season for the EU, europe will survive and the countries within it, but those unelected bastards will be kicked out

>> No.51326873

>>51326123
I think it will blow over. The EU is already restarting coal and nuclear power plants so the energy crisis will stop being a problem before winter.

>> No.51326896

>>51314584
Like 20% I panic bought during the most recent dip.

>> No.51326913

>>51314584
⅔ desu

>> No.51326997

>>51326873
Most homes in western Europe are heated by gas

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literally:

>Due gas price increase, 75 % of the work migrants will disappear in the Dutch green houses

>> No.51327254

>>51326997
But we have gas now.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/germany-reaches-october-gas-storage-target-despite-extended-nord-stream-1-halt-2022-09-03/

Russia cut the gas too late, there's too much renewables, coal and nuclear online already.

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>>51327254
It is not about having the gas it is about the insane gas prices

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new sov just got delivered.
nothing special, not the best condition, but was good price and I needed this one for my Queen Vic collection.
Shield Young Vic sov next on my radar.

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simple as

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>>51327421
Legit sexy sov collection. Gonna miss queenie when she pops her clogs, with how frail she looks I wouldn't be surprised it happens all of a sudden before the year is out.

>> No.51327610

>>51327572
will coins with her stupid face go up in value

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>have an issue with collectible old coins
>not very expensive or too old (>1800ad)
>want to send them to my brother
>from UK to US
>it's about a shoe box size(with their individual packagings etc)
Thought to ask you since you know coins. It's for personal collection reasons, there must be less than £1000 in value, just various historical ebay coins, nothing ancient or mad expensive.
Could I just send them in one box with courier? Will they be anal at the US borders and possibly confiscate them from us?

>> No.51327634

>>51327610
No. Coins only go up in value if they're rare and minted to a high grade.

>> No.51327659

>>51327626
>Could I just send them in one box with courier?
Yes
>Will they be anal at the US borders and possibly confiscate them from us?
No

>> No.51327724

maties where do I hide me treasure

I was considering hiding in the pipes of an unused drain, but I have too much already so it won't all fit.

I also considered burring it in my yard, but what if some faggot comes onto my property with a metal detector.

My other options are burring it under the ground within my house.
Some faggots say you should hide it it multiple places in your house, but if I was a degen robber and found one piece of gold hidden under a cupboard or somethng then i'd destroy the whole house to find more

>> No.51327761

Anyone knows good bullion dealers/coin shops in Ireland?

>> No.51327830

>>51327724
Just put it in a place no one thinks about looking.

>> No.51327842

>>51327724
Under a toilet. nobody is unbolting a toilet.

>> No.51327894

>>51327659
That's nice. Do you think it is possible to get an official answer, email, document that they will be fine and safe?
Is there such a service from customs or the courier?

>> No.51327904

>>51327761
Chards would work fine for Ireland. Delivery is relatively quick, just comes across the channel.
Merrion is decent if you're around Dublin. Shop keeper is a bit of a surly susan but soon changes his tune when you flop out 2k Euros and ask him to show you some shiny rocks.

>> No.51328015

>>51327904
Thanks fren, what is the usual premium on gold with Merrion? I am in Dublin and want to pay cash

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>>51313717
I'd you buy from euopabullion do you get capsules and tubes as well or do you have to buy them separately?

>> No.51328181

>>51328015
usually between 3.5% and 3.7% iirc.

>> No.51328312

>>51321398
If they were real clever they'd just make the coins the actual wizarding currency, like Galleons for gold wahtever they called silver etc.

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Based

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>>51328015
Thought I'd go the extra mile and get them to send me through a quote. Here you go mate. They're quick to respond too, about 20 minutes.

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>>51328639
>>51328181
Bless you anon

>> No.51328666

>>51327572
she looks about ready to shed that lizard skin

>> No.51328713

>>51315596
morgan design looks like a fat faced gook. walking liberty is based. any coin with the lizard queen on the other side is shit

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Does anyone have the utility that was posted a few threads back that showed an estimate on when the Comex would be empty based on the last 6 months(i think) of data?

>> No.51328805

>>51328767
Can you explain the numbers here?

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>>51320721
not selling now
>>51320952
>paper dollar fiat scam fake money worthless paper debt
this is why i don't feel so good
>>51321247
i might sell some if it goes to $50 or more
>>51322037
yes, i know. this is part of why i dont feel so good. just getting so tiresome

>> No.51328896

>>51328805
My understanding is that if every dollar in circulation were to be backed by oil/silver/gold/crypto then the price shown would be the value of each of those commodities.

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>>51328805
>>51328896
I just remembered you can click on the field to show the way it's calculated.
https://www.usdebtclock.org/#

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>>51328713
gobble gobble

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>>51327724
Heard about a movie the other day where the story was about a gold vault robbery, the main robber had to hide all the gold so when the police raided his house they couldn't find anything, the guy had hidden it by melting it down into a bannister for stairs that he sprayed/painted black which the police literally had their hands on as they went up the stairs looking for it.

The story is the best way to hide something is in plain sight.

>> No.51329562

>>51328876
>yes, i know. this is part of why i dont feel so good. just getting so tiresome
Tiresome? I look at it more like a gift each day that silver is under $20. I want this shit to go one for 3 more years if it could.

>> No.51329580

>>51317150
I like your taste, Swiss ALOX bro.

>> No.51329853

>>51327724
>My other options are burring it under the ground within my house.

Yeah burying it in a crawlspace is a good plan, perhaps underneath ductwork or pipes so if someone had a detector down there they'd get interference/overload signals. If you're not a fagtard you'll need to haul out the displaced dirt and reserve the dust or surface dirt from starting the hole to camouflage the spot once buried, people have eyes and if you do a lazy sloppy job it'll be clear the ground was disturbed.

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>>51313717
I did it lads. Finally bought my first mini stack of silver.
>got them in a job lot from a bloke nearby so saved about £40 on taxes and extra costs

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Lads, it looks like we will be getting a new obverse design next year.

>> No.51330314
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Rumor is that Queen Elizabeth might be on her death bed right now. If she dies this week, what does that mean for coins? Would Prince Charles instantly be printed on the reverse of all the 2022 coins? If 2022 Britannias have both Queen Elizabeth and King Charles, which would be worth more? Will there suddenly be a new premium in coins that feature her?

>> No.51330329

>>51330314
I asked this when i purchased my brittanias earlier this year and the conclusion was that they'll probably won't really change much in value, maybe just a little bit

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>>51328015
>>51328639
I'm in Portugal and I bought 1oz today(picrel) for 1804€, paid cash. Thought it might have perhaps been a bit expensive but I guess not

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>>51314853
Rolling for even shorter mustache and annihilation of Israel.

>> No.51330471

>>51330314
>Rumor is that Queen Elizabeth might be on her death bed right now

She probably died a year or 2 ago and they're dragging her body out of the closet as a distraction psyop as the british state along with the european union and the united states are all collapsing and wont exist fairly soon.

They know a lot of the dumb cattle worship this khazar cunt so they will use any tactic to keep control of them.

To answer your question it doesn't mean anything, just buy any silver as quick as possible and stop giving a shit about what tyrant is on the back.

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>>51330314
Apparently when there's a monarch change, the previous monarch is minted on coins for the remaining year that they were reigning monarch. What I don't know is if that applies up to the death of the old monarch or the coronation of the new monarch. Also I don't know when the year gets changed on minting coins. Are they minted before or at the start of a new year?

>> No.51330969

>>51330314
King Charles coins won't be minted until the beginning of his first full calendar year in office, for the remainder of 2022 (or whatever year the Queen dies) they'll still make Queen coins. There might be a few special commemoratives with Charles on them, but nothing for circulation until next year as is tradition (also they need time to make the new dies and make a bunch of Lizcoins to meet the demand for people taking them as souvenirs).

>> No.51331004

>>51330314
None of the first/last years of reigns for any old British coins are more valuable than any other common dates. Key dates always have to do with mintage. If everyone hoards the last lizzies and the first chucks then obviously they won't be valuable later on

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>>51330314
2022 britannias will be worth more than ASEs, mark my words.

>> No.51331202

>>51319099
kekek

>> No.51331287

>>51330339
Yeah, 1 oz bars don't really have a price advantage over the cheaper gold coins (britannia, maple, kangaroo). For some reason the wieners cost more, I dunno why.

>> No.51331462

you guys buying tudor beasts? they dont seem to be as cool as the queens beasts

>> No.51331517

>>51330969
Ah, I see. So if the queen dies in 2022 and Charles becomes king this year, then all 2022 coins would continue having Elizabeth on them, and then starting in 2023, all coins will have King Charles on them. Thanks for explaining it to me.

>>51331187
Britannia sisters, we're going to the moon!!

>>51331462
I'm not interested in them desu.

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>>51328639
1800 *pounds*? for one Britannia?
Your gov't must really hate you.

>> No.51331730 [DELETED] 

>>51331707
Euros. Still... ugh. My condolences.

>> No.51331889

>>51330339
I avoid generic gold bars for the following reasons:
>aren't as popular as coins
>not as pretty as coins
>easier to fake than coins
>harder to sell than coins
>hardly any price difference than coins

This is just my stance for gold 1 oz or smaller. If I had the money to buy a kilo bar of gold or something bigger, I totally would. Also, the hand poured buttons from the Perth Mint are really nice, as are the dragon bars and stuff from the Royal Mint. Generic bars though? No thanks. My LCS even told me they don't buy generic gold bars, since they are so much easier to fake.

>> No.51331973

>>51331462
I speculated on a numismatic gain and bought three. I agree - not as nice. It's like a movie sequel.

>> No.51332011

>>51331889
>>51331287
Yeah, this was my first purchase and I went with what I thought was safe.
I have the papers from the bank where I bought it from, so that should help me sell it, no?

>> No.51332268

>>51332011
Idk about Portugal, but here in Burgerland, the boomers who run my local coin shops probably wouldn't care and would just refuse to buy it. If a bar can be faked so easily, then surely papers can be faked even more easily. It could be totally different where you live though. Didn't you look into this before spending almost $2k?

>> No.51332291
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>>51332011
A well-known branded bar sealed in certificate card like that is very safe. Unlike what the other guy said, you won't ever have problems selling it. Just make sure to keep your receipts, because that can give you tax advantages if you ever need to sell it. Plus it also proves you didn't steal it.
Those bars are fine, I just like coins more. Only problem is, the fancier ones are expensive and basically just a waste of money. So I'm going to stick with krugerrands, which aren't the cheapest but are only about $20 more than britannias. It's not just because I like the coin, but also for practical reasons (gold/copper allow is more resistant to damage and doesn't need capsule). Might get a Noah's Ark though, if I still got money left over in the end.
For your next 1 oz gold you might look into britannias or maples, they've got some security features.

>> No.51332852

>>51331889
This isn’t true though. The difference between the cheapest 1oz gold bar and a 1 oz gold eagle is $125. That’s pretty substantial. If you buy a decent gold bar from pamp suisse or Perth mint, for example, the problems you mention don’t exist. Still, I’d rather have the coin, but you’re exaggerating a bit.

>> No.51332880

>>51313717
I have a 1 ounce gold coin. What will that buy me after the collapse™?

>> No.51332932

>>51332880
The loyalty of a medium sized bandit raiding party for one month of campaign

>> No.51333005

>>51332880
Just enough material to purchase a wagon and pack animal for a trading cart, however you will be responsible for your own protection until you turn a profit, which will take a while

>> No.51333305

Save some money for King Charles coins, he's not going to rule for long so the coins might have an increased numismatic value because there's not going to be a lot of them.

Also remember to get some jubilee coins if you haven't gotten any yet.

>> No.51333399
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>>51328713
>morgan design looks like a fat faced gook. walking liberty is based. any coin with the lizard queen on the other side is shit
Morgan is based. If you hate it you're a tranny. Queen Liz is even more based. Especially the newest portrait.
>>51330310
>>51330314
RIP lads. RIP.

>> No.51333433

>>51332852
>The difference between the cheapest 1oz gold bar and a 1 oz gold eagle is $125.

You're comparing a the cheapest gold bar to the most expensive gov mint coin. Dumb comparison. As others have already said, gold bars aren't that much cheaper than a gold Britannia or the like.

>> No.51333471
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51333471

Got Yotsuba coin #57 today. It's neat but I think I'm done with overpriced modern stuff. From now on I'll try to buy either more cheap bullion or stick to US commemoratives since those hold value and I like them.
The wooden box is really nice though, very happy with how that came out

>> No.51333506
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>>51313717

One of my favorite pmg images lol

>> No.51333528
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>>51333506
Thanks, fren. I made it for (you).

>> No.51333660

>>51333471
i put in for anime prospector and fresmark, since frensmark was aborted i might (might) get boomer coin. other than that i'm not interested in any of them

anime prospector looks so sharp

>> No.51333670

>>51333399
Damn trips and dubs, checked

>> No.51333681

>>51333471
Pics now. Get some kilo bars anon. Kilo bars are awesome. I just got some this week.

>> No.51333689

>>51333471
Glad you like it anon!

>> No.51333752

>>51333471
we all should have bought US junk silver while it was on discount, not it's never goig8y40y
n back

>> No.51333769

>>51333752
wtf
*now it's never going back

>> No.51333777

>>51333433
I live in the US, so yes, it is a fair comparison. I’m not stacking Brits like a moron. Also, you didn’t even address the fact that Perth mint or pamp suisse bars are just as good.

>> No.51333778 [DELETED] 

>>51314093
Can we get a free Chris Chan coin?
I don't want to free him, but it would be funny to have

>> No.51333779

>>51330006
Congrats! Are you fondling?

>> No.51333887

>>51333777
Are you the retard that can't understand percentages?

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>>51332880
Think of it in terms of the purchasing power it commands today, and then add some premium onto it due to it's physical utility and the fact that many other paper/financial assets everyone own will be losing purchasing power.
People own investments and paper because they wrongfully believe that it will procure them even more paper dollars and that their purchasing power will increase at a later date. However once the bond market starts to crack then much of the purchasing power they think they have will be diluted by the banks trying to keep themselves alive. The physical purchasing power will buy you a lot, as people will be flush with goods, but they will have lost their assets that have "exchange-value". People won't want dollars that will be losing half their value every 6 months, etc. Excess production from manufacturing will not want to be sold for those same dollars either, but companies will be DESPERATE to offload them for a stable asset. I think in this environment, gold will command an extraordinary level of purchasing power. This is because the bond market will likely be propped up and the slow bleed of dollar-dilution will be causing turmoil in the streets as the pressure builds. And the banks are the ones making the moves, and we should all assume they behave in a way that keeps them alive.

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>>51333681
I do have a Kilo bar, It's pretty cool
>>51333752
It hurts, US 90% is my absolute favorite to stack but it's so costly

>> No.51333957

>>51314584
About tree fiddy

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>>51333777
>>51331889
>the hand poured buttons from the Perth Mint are really nice, as are the dragon bars and stuff from the Royal Mint. Generic bars though? No thanks.
Insecure, rude, and dumb? Oof. Wasted digits on such a lowly chud too. Buy whatever you like; we don't care lol.

>>51333887
I'm not going to give him anymore replies. Some of the dumb posters here will a ruin a nice thread just to cry that people have different taste in bullion.

>> No.51334023

>>51333902
What if I own stocks in a company and have it all on paper? Won't I be able to reclaim those if the company doesn't go bankrupt

>> No.51334026
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51334026

New silver came in. Currently sitting at 3lbs total, with a couple of grams of gold and platinum. My old lockbox is full, gonna need to figure out a new way to store them. Any suggestions? If you say a bank I hate you.

>> No.51334042

>>51334026
>3 lbs
~44 ounces

>> No.51334074
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>>51333689
You, uh...got any more of them Yotsubas lying around for the late-comers?

>> No.51334077

>>51334042
3*16 is 48, anon.

>> No.51334079

>>51334026
Have you seen those dummy safes that look like a dictionary? If you can't afford a "way too big and secure to quickly bust open" safe you might as well go with the next best thing, "hide in plain sight"

>> No.51334124

>>51334077
Checked, but a troy ounce is 2.75 grams heavier than a regular ounce. They aren't the same measurement, fren.

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>>51334077

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>>51334023
They can weather the storm, but in times of extreme hardship, the sell pressure could be insurmountable and stocks may honestly never recover in REAL terms, relative to the purchasing power they have today while the bond market is stable.
Now, there are lots of stocks out there and they all need to be individually assessed, as commodity producers with a necessary good will survive and their production will be necessary and able to absorb currency devaluation. Netflix? Tesla? Crocs, or whatever the fuck? Na, probably not so much.
Remember, we have been able to lower interest rates every single time we have had a downturn since the 1980s. The economy is saturated in debt (toxic paper losses) and there will not be some magical reflation of things going forward. The ability for the market to crash and for people ride the market back up to new highs after 2008 and 2020 is only possible with the bond market still intact. I anticipate that stocks get sold off, or if inflation is so mad we see a melt-up in stocks, they will still likely lose purchasing power in real terms.
When the bond market collapses, do not expect to get rich with paper assets, as we will all be much poorer once that wealth-effect (ponzi) breaks. And as far as I can tell, the best way to cash out of the ponzi is physical, un-leveraged assets (houses are leveraged by the mortgage industry. You want to own a house, but the purchasing power of it will reduce back down to a consumer good as opposed to an investment vehicle).
Make sense?

>> No.51334165

>>51334124
>>51334137
I can't believe I forgot that. Apologies anons.
>>51334079
>Have you seen those dummy safes that look like a dictionary
I have not, but that sounds like a neat idea. Thanks!

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51334195

>>51333887
Because you are a retard…

As you can see, if premiums stay constant, the % gain on the Eagle and Buffalo are the same. Obviously, initial investment on the Eagle is higher, so you actually gain more in terms of dollars. BUT, my thesis states that the premium on eagles will RISE in comparison to generics. Therefore, your % gains will actually be higher if you buy eagles. There you go faggot.

I get that you can buy more ounces if you get cheap generic. But the lesson here is that if you want to MAXIMIZE gains, buy the same amount of ounces in Eagles.

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>>51333689
Thank you Anon, Beautiful coin and box!

>> No.51334272

>>51334219
the pube painted into the box is nice

>> No.51334278

>>51334150
Yeah I just meant more like Heinz, what's the chance that will go bankrupt?
So since I have that on paper, I can claim some tomato beans by old stock market law.
Source: I'm from the 1800s

>> No.51334291

>>51334195
You're fucking stupid. Anyone with a brain is going to buy the cheapest gold they can, in order to stack the most ounces. Your premium shit is for dealers to fleece dumbasses with, simple as.

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>>51334278
It won't go bankrupt. It could be a great investment as people start to eat at home more. I own Kroger etc for this exact reason. Just remember that the company will be strained on all fronts, from employee wages, energy, etc and the chance for dividend income may not be as reliable if you are older. My plan is to use some PMs to buy back into the market as scoop up some good companies but not until AFTER the bond market is dealt with.

>> No.51334404

>>51334026
Post your silbies retard. Dig a hole in the kitchen under the tiles or floor board. Install it with cement or concrete so no one can just lift the whole safe.

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>>51333887
>>51334195
>>51334291
Here are the numbers if you use the same initial investment. Like I said, if the premium of eagles rise in comparison to generics (as it has been doing the last 2 years), you will have better gains with eagles. Go suck a dick.

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51334453

>>51334272
>You can tell the artist but himself into his work
That makes it even more valuable.

>> No.51334463

>>51334376
>Kroger
Isn't that a chain of supermarkets? Or do they produce goods too?
I don't dare to invest in retail, only production atm.

>> No.51334510

>>51334195
>>51334291
>>51334428
I would argue that coins have less value than bars, but they sell mostly on looks not on weight.
So if it is a misprint, rare or sought after coin, then it's worth more.
If not, and you bought it full price at retail, then good luck making your money back on it.

>> No.51334513

>>51334291
Actually anyone with a brain wants to maximize gains. If you bought eagles in 2020 or earlier, you are sitting pretty. Eagle premiums will continue to rise, so it’s not too late. US mint is already having trouble sourcing and producing coins. When the rush sets in, eagle premiums could go well over 100%. This info isn’t for you since you are a low IQ faggot. This info is for all the lurkers on the board.

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>>51334278
>>51334376
I own stocks to be diversified as well as to grab up some dividend income as we have no fucking idea how long this will take. But historically, some ratios are extremely important.
GSR is out of control, like 80+ ounces per gold.
Twice in history, the Dow:Gold ratio has hit 1:1. Something similar will likely happen, where there will be blood in the streets and a great opportunity to buy. But America will never be the same as there will not be capital inflows anywhere close to what we have now. Once the debt bubble bursts, people are going to be scrambling to put their names down on anything and everything they own.
I heard a nice analogy that I think is thought provoking. So many people think they are doing the right thing, and own the right assets etc. But this is like being at a poker table where everyone lays down their hands and we all have 5x aces. The pot is only so big and even if we all own a bunch of shit, we're going to find out that it just doesn't command as much purchasing power as we originally thought. True price discovery is going to return once the leverage is ripped away and written off. The more exposed you and you assets are to debt/leverage the worse off you will be.

>> No.51334551

>>51334510
I don’t know what point you are making. Premium is based largely on supply and demand. Demand on eagles will rise when the next rush sets in. US mint has already admitted to production issues. We’re going to see Eagles sold out and hard to obtain. Because people will want them, premiums will sky rocket.

>> No.51334574

>>51334463
It's a very well run grocery chain that owns many other chains. I don't think people will be lining up in drive thru windows to spend their hard earned money on overpriced food anymore. Being thrifty will be the new sexy. $50 to feed your family for one night is absurd, and I think being positioned for that transition will be a wise investment. It won't do better than metals, but I think it is a safe hold

>> No.51334644

THE QUEEN IS DEAD

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>>51334644
AHAHAHAHAHA GET FUCKED QUEENIE
About time you stopped ruining all of my coins

>> No.51334713

>>51334551
My point is that coins rarely re-sell for the price you bought it for at retail, unless it becomes collectible. There was once an Olympic game that was cancelled and they produced a few coins, those coins became worth a shitload since the game never happened. If it did, they would be worthless in comparison.
>going to see Eagles sold out and hard to obtain
I've seen hundreds of coins with eagles, it's not very original.
People will want them, but if you want to sell them, I wouldn't expect too much.
>>51334574
Probably a good hold. I lowkey wanna short McDonalds and other shitty overpriced fast food chains, because I agree that they will see a huge loss in the future as people realize they can make cheaper, healthier and better food at home.

>> No.51334718

my queen's beasts coins just 10x'd

>> No.51334722

>>51334404
>Dig a hole in the kitchen under the tiles or floor board.
Nah I'll save that for when I have a stack actually worth a lot. Good idea for in a fear years though.

>> No.51334775

>>51334644
No more old lizard women

>> No.51334803

>>51334644
Too soon. She was only 96 years young

>> No.51334813

>>51334644
Based, I might buy britcoins once they switch the head

>> No.51334865
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Here is the analysis put together. If premiums stay constant, it doesn’t really matter in terms of % gains if you buy generic or eagles. BUT, the premiums on eagles will continue to rise in comparison to generics. Why? Because eagles are a high demand coin and the US mint will absolutely not be able to keep up with demand. In the next run up in silver, eagle premiums may rise to 100%+++ and will soon sell out. They’ll will only be available on the private market with even higher premiums. The eagle is also a very liquid coin and more trusted and recognizable compared to generic. Eagles are a great buy even with the high premiums. If the premiums fall in the future, then I’ll lose a little money compared to generics, but that is a good risk I am willing to take. Use this info for your own stacking strategy.

>> No.51334901

>>51334195
I broke you in the last thread, retard, and I'll break you again.

>> No.51334917

holy shit the lizard is dead

>> No.51334929
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>>51334644
And I just pulled the trigger on 3 Queen's Beasts before the news was announced.

>> No.51334948

>>51334901
>>51334865
Your only retort could possibly be that I am wrong and eagle premiums may fall. I don’t think they will. But we will see. I made this analysis for this board. Not for you. You seem very stubborn and refuse to admit that adding eagles to your stack, even with current premiums, is a good idea.

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>>51334644

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Oh shit. Someone is gonna have to update this image now. It's too fucking spooky for normal posting.

>> No.51335018
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>>51334644
>kek to myself
>realize her mongoloid son will be on all the money instead
God dammit

>> No.51335020

>>51334917
King Charles coins, when?

>> No.51335065
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>>51334713
>Probably a good hold. I lowkey wanna short McDonalds and other shitty overpriced fast food chains, because I agree that they will see a huge loss in the future as people realize they can make cheaper, healthier and better food at home.
I'm honestly terrified of shorting, because one of the precursors to propping up the system is to ensure the stock market stays afloat. It may crash in real terms but actually still go higher.
Many leveraged games actually have bonds being used as collateral to take on many layers of debt which ultimately gets dumped in the stock market. If the market crashes, the unwinding of leverage could be catastrophic if people get liquidated.
I have no idea how all of these infinite little moving parts and pieces actually react, but I am certain that in real terms we end up poorer except for those who own QUALITY assets. I don't think it is necessarily so simple as "stock market go down - bad". I just stay away from shorting.

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>>51334644
is this gonna be more valuable now

>> No.51335078

now i gotta see Charles face.

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>>51335018
>>51335020
>>51335078

>> No.51335108

>>51335078
out with one lizard, in with another

>> No.51335114

FUCK FUCK FUCK GOTTA GET ALL THE 22 BRITANNICAS

>> No.51335183

>>51335065
I never shorted, but if I did, it would crash after I close my position at a loss.
I do agree with you, but I kinda hate these fast food places that serve shit, have no customer service and bad treatment of employees.
I don't see how they even manage to stay in business, Gordon Ramsey would be shocked.

>> No.51335206

>>51334074
there will be a few extras up for sale soonTM.
>>51334219
i hope they meat everyone's expectations.

>> No.51335209

>>51334713
Eagles retain their premiums and actually grow them over time. You can’t refute this. Generics are generics and sell for spot or a little over with few exceptions. Even highly desired rounds like Englehard prospectors don’t have such a great premium. Eagles are great because they are very liquid and retain their premiums. Always buy eagles and other coins over generic rounds.

>> No.51335218
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>>51313717
>>51334644
Its time to bow /pmg/ for a new KING is HERE

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NOOOOO MY LIZARD
>>51333670
MY DUBS KILLED HER

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>>51335105
Fug i thought this was a 2021. Its a 2022. Perpetually out of stock everywhere.
Starting the bidding at $500

>> No.51335304

>>51334713
And bro…yes there are many rounds with eagles. But none are American Silver Eagles. You’re being disingenuous.

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51335325

Don't have much Lizzo metal but here's my paltry tribute, good luck Bongs

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I am sad that the queen is dead. Long live the king. Tempted to get another tube of silver Britannias and or another 1 oz gold Britannia.

>>51335218
#CharlesInCharge

>> No.51335367

RIP hag coins, you will not be missed.

>> No.51335383

Bros my yotsuba arrived at the post office
Imma go pick it up
don't kill any more monarchs while I'm gone, ok?

>> No.51335406

>>51335383
>don't kill any more monarchs while I'm gone, ok?
Don't worry, we'll wait for you fren :)

>> No.51335412

Will the Royal Mint delay the announcement of the Harry Potter Set that was supposed to come out today? Their website has a queue at the moment.

>> No.51335437

>>51335209
>line only goes up
>you can’t refute this
I guess you win the argument then, since I can't possibly refute this even though I already did earlier.
>>51335304
Not being disingenuous, but there are American Silver Eagles, there are donkeys, there is every single animal. Who gives a fuck?

>> No.51335448
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51335448

>>51335412
Will the Harry Potter coins have Charles or the Queen on them?

>> No.51335480

How long before all the Commonwealth countries update their Coins?

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>>51335412
>queue
>queeu
>queen
Coincidence?

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>>51335359
Somehow I want Lizzie back

>> No.51335524
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51335524

I predicted this in the gone fishing thread

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>>51335325
Young Lizzie was hot

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>>51335508
>Lizzie
>Elisabeth
>eLIZARDbeth
Coincidence?

>> No.51335552

Fuck I was gonna buy a monster box of maples next week. Guess Ill just wait now as the premiums are sure to spike.

>> No.51335572
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51335572

>now you listen here, shopkeep
>these here are real American silver eagle coins
>these are rare and highly sought after
>I paid 100% in premiums
>I expect to get paid double spot price now that I'm selling them
>I know what I got

>>51335508
Charles is funny. I hope he gets a nice portrait for the 2023 coins.

>> No.51335575

Which coin will gain most value after Betty's death?

>> No.51335614

>>51335448
I don't know how Britcucks handle stuff like that. If the queen is only on whatever the first installment is then maybe I'll buy quite a few for resale later on. Normally I steer clear of Lizard Queen coins.

>> No.51335618

>>51335437
Tell me why eagle premiums and premiums on silver in general will fall. Please enlighten us all. The conditions that made eagle premiums rise the last two years are worsening. They will rise. Refute this.

As for your insane comment on animals, they don’t matter. What matters is that a coins is recognizable and trusted and liquid. That is the ASE. You are showing yourself to be a fool. I thought you were going to “break me”. Guess you have no actual response. The numbers and analysis i presented stand for itself. But what is your goal here? To mislead people? To turn them away from good investments? Why do you have some irrational hatred against eagles?

>> No.51335653

ordered my 2022 lizzie

>> No.51335698
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51335698

Anyone ever use bullionmax? I just bought their dingo spot deal and 10 roos

>> No.51335709

>>51335618
I never told you they would fall, why do you learn to read before you post replies?
I never said I was gonna break you either, but I realize now you are an Eagle coin schizo and refuse to believe anything else.

>> No.51335725

>>51333752
The premiums are Eagle-tier, it's nuts. I got a few rolls of blowjobs while the getting was good, but if only I'd known...

>> No.51335729

>>51335709
why don't*

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>>51335575
>Betty's
>Bet, Tea
>Gambling Tea drinker?
Did the queen owe someone money?
Coincidence?

>> No.51335739

>>51334644
Good, Ulster reigns

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51335748

I’m excited

>> No.51335775

>>51335618
This retard can't even into IDs.

>> No.51335799

There is a new thread available.
>>51335771

New Thread
>>51335771

New Thread
>>51335771

>> No.51335805
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51335805

>>51335359
I suspect 2023 dated coins with the queens image will be unique if all coins minted after today have Charles on them. So far the only 2023 coin with Elizebeth is the Tudor beast Yale of Beaufort. Got mine just in case. Maybe the 2023 Perth products will have them since they'll be for sale in October 2022.

>> No.51335812

im never gonna be paid. im never gonna be paid in time to buy the dip

>> No.51335895
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51335895

>>51335805
I just heard news that the Queen has passed.
Long live the king.

>> No.51336604

>>51335302
it's the last issue so i'd imagine it's a bit less valuable than the others , some of them are ridiculously overpriced, for example the dragon and the unicorn cost even more than the Lion of england.

i have like almost 50 of these bitches too, don't know why i bought so many, it was at the height of silver fever too so i paid like 65 a piece for them . hopefully the sticky premiums let me get some of my money back one day

>> No.51337075

>>51334644
LONG LIVE THE KING.

>> No.51337323

>>51337075
I'd say two months

>> No.51337521

>>51337323
lol, entirely possible. He's looked sickly for a few decades now.

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>>51334510
1 oz of gold is worth 1 oz of gold, period. All that other stuff is speculation. But at 1 oz size, the price difference of bars vs. coins is insignificant. It's only with larger sizes like 50 grams and above where the bars have a significant advantage.
But there can also be tax reasons to buy coins. In the UK, you buy gold sovs, simple as. In the EU, you buy silver coins, not bars that have VAT on the full amount. But you can buy those Tokelau or similar 1-kilo coinbars for pretty cheap, so that's kind of a loophole. Those are still taxed, with VAT on the premium portion, so it's not quite as good a deal as burgers who can buy 10 oz or bigger silver bars tax-free.

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>>51335437
elephants > eagles