/biz/ - Business & Finance

First for futas

BONDS
SELL EM

SAUDIS SAVE ME AAAAAAA

First for panic

hey guys just came back from vacation how are things..... OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS

Can SPY hit 385 for the love of god? Fuck the MM's delaying the inevitable

so, where are the futas that were mentioned?

>>51302032
This damn bear market is ruining my prostitute money. And worst of all my favorite place is closed for good

>>51302076
>energy companies
>margin call
Huh? How does that work? That's like a gold miner facing a margin call because of gold going up.

>>51302076
what the fuck does that even mean

>>51302076
It's time.

>>51302112
That's exactly what it's like. They short their energy commodity as an insurance.

>>51302111
that creditors don't think utilities can pay for gas

>>51302076
Does this mean my UVXY calls will print?

is that 1.5 trillion margin call in europe a big deal?

>>51302129
Holy shit.
Globalization is retarded.

>>51302112
Companies hedge by shorting future contracts to provide price stability. Except now they offered cheap stable prices and one company implied the EU energy companies need 1.5 trillion in capitalisation

It's kind of hilarious being in the south where everything is fine and watching the rest of the world burn

>>51302129
actual clown world

>>51302112
no. energy company here means electric companies aka utilities.

>>51302142
we call them Europoors for a reason

>>51302146
>>51302136
>>51302129
I don't get it. can you explain it to me like I'm a retarded 13 year old.

>>51302146
Its the idea of they produce energy so shorting its a form of covered call. They short if prices are high and then wait until they are lower to cover them. However they will not be lower and the banks want their money.

Buy meme stocks and crypto to leverage the coming stimis.

>>51302188
>Banks holding Europe hostage for 1.5 trillion
oy vey

>>51302179
>electric company must buy nat gas to make electricity.
>nat gas costs money
>creditor that provides loan to buy gas doesn't think electric company can pay for gas with electricity prices.
there

>>51302179
Let me use a different example: aluminin
>you produce aluminium sheets
>spot price goes up because high demand
>your company short sells a ton
>if contract is settled -- you use physical aluminium sheets produced to settle
>if it doesnt end up itm, your companu keeps profits

>>51302212
This is electricity sold in advance which is why they are getting margin called. Its not settled debt.

Redpill me on SPY butterfly spreads. How do you know when shit is going to crab?

What stock are you waiting to buy in on?

>>51302266
you don't? did you think you found some foolproof, easy money, strategy?

>>51302212
This is much easier to understand. Doesn't this mean that electricity simply needs to raise its prices to Match the increase in Natural gas?

Also if the loan companies don't give electricity money can't electricity stop giving them power? Hell can't they just stop giving nat gas power as well

>>51302276
CVNA for another squoozle. Just waiting for the insider buy signal to kick in.

>>51302179
You were loaned lemonades for $1 each from your friend a few months before you made your lemonade stand. Now you need to pay your friend back but a lemonade costs $1.50. Because you don't have the difference, your mom needs to pay your friend back.

>>51301850
now we just have to wait on the house prices to catch up to the failing demand.

>>51302266
who is that. I want her. pls don't tell me it's a porn star

>>51302276
I bought some gush last week it didnt pay off yet. I bought twice as much tmv which has payed off well. I also bought some tx because uh, they produce steel with a fat divy. They might pump to replace euro steel or I collect divys

be honest /smg/ what are the chances my apple calls print tomorrow

spent more on them than I should have :(

>>51302298
>Doesn't this mean that electricity simply needs to raise
Electricity is sold on a contract basis. Once contract is sign they can't raise the price at any point on the customer. Similar to how rent works for long term leases

>>51302276
WEN. Wendy's just keeps growing a good and consistent pace. I'm waiting to buy at $16 maybe $17. If it keeps going lower then I'll keep buying

>>51302299
You're assuming a lot there, bud. If I thought it was foolproof I wouldn't be asking.

We havent had an /smg/ thread this based in a long time

>>51302312
Well she's not currently a porn star
Pretty sure shes dead

>>51302336
So they're expected to just eat a huge loss for the rest of the year? Why not just close down if they're going to bleed money.

>>51302076
Lmaoo that EQNR nigger shiller is going to rope himself

>>51302355
The point is the governments will bail them out. Which means printer goes brrrrrrrrrrrr.

>>51302355
They cant close down they are a utility. So now jupiter is going to print 1.5 trillion euros potentially to satisfy the banks

>>51302076
>let's use derivatives to scalp extra profits, surely we won't ever have a tail risk even-

Alright prove to me that governments and money matter at all. Go ahead and try. Try to prove that any of this matters at all. Why are they even pretending like it matters? For us serfs? None of this shit is real.

>>51302032
A couple people asked about SIGA in different breads today, and some retard said it was touching the bottom. I've said it before, but I wouldn't even think about touching it until the end of the month. If the pediatric cases are significant after a month of school I could see pressure building to the point the FDA comes to its senses. As it stands cases are flat and it remains a disease for disgusting faggots, especially as far as normies are concerned. In the meantime the ticker will continue to bleed and I wouldn't be surprised to see 8 or 9 in the next two weeks. Even then that might not be the bottom.

Christian Bale’s performance as Michael burry is kinda mid no cap. Goes full autist, never go full autist

>>51302378
Even more funny. Eqnr is the one who broke that news>>51302384

>>51302349
No her dad is dead shes alive, he used to be the goldman sachs cfo or something. she did those facial abuse videos to fuck with him i think.

>>51302339
most people ask questions like that because they're uncertain if the statement (or in this case strategy) is true or not. only by affirming the question do people then go all in. nobody knows when it'll crab, or when it'll top out, nor when it'll bottom out. we use chart indicators to guess where the market is heading. butterfly spreads, like most options strategies, will work until they don't

>>51302355
>Why not just close down if they're going to bleed money.
These are not 'capitalist' organizations that can shut down, they're just gloves the state wears to fuck with people.

>>51302384
Euros already lost 2% this week.
Dxyniggas are mooning

>>51302433
Yea I know, it's taking mein oil with it.

Okay anons which one of you bought Colombia?

>>51302408
>Alright prove to me that governments and money matter at all.
People have already been at this logical conclusion for a century. That's why we need income taxes and the IRS.

I know we joked about September and the shemitah but holy fuck

>>51302327
Buddy...

>>51302076
Someone explain to me how this is a fucking thing. I don't get it

>>51302408
It doesn't but you play the game whether you like it or not.

Dollar milkshake fir the Americans
Emerging markets like Japan and euros only get to sit and watch.

>>51302458
>he thought the schizoposting was a joke

>>51302487
Anons already have multiple times
Read you lazy nigger.

>>51302327
depends on what your strike price was. might get a good run up in the morning but looks like its headed downward still

>>51302487
How it works or how it is allowed to happen? Because you should know both at this point.

>>51302327
Seems risky but you may get out alive due to Iphone hype

Oil bros.............. Not like this

>>51302458
You think I'm joking when I say WAKE ME UP, WHEN SHEMITAH ENDS

is now a good time to put all my savings in stocks?

>>51302458
>joking
No anon, we are fighting an eternal spiritual war against a race of people who want to enslave, demean, and control anyone who is not part of their tribe. And they have the hubris to do it out in the open. I tried to warn you guys.

>>51302548
At least we arent boilers

>when you buy back all your credit spreads for 80% or more profit

>>51302548
oil is probably still okay to own though.
dollar's doing well but this could well very be the end of the fiat ponzi experiment if the Fed decides to waver or gets pressured to stop blowing everything the fuck up in order to prop up the dollar.

>123456

>>51302458
This is the midterm bottom
The worst month for the market
The start of QT
The last big rate hike
Another cpi report
Jerome Powell speaks friday
ECB raises rates thursday
And Shemitah ends

my gas bill sends its regards oilchuds

>>51302574
What tickers?

>futures

>>51302585
>The last big rate hike
the last big rate hike for NOW

>>51302590
logi
coin
aapl
qqq
spy
tsla
gme
maybe a few more i cant remember off the top of my head
some of the spreads were terribly big but still good enough to take

>>51302114
It is indeed.

official >futures thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SccggMlZQtw

>>51302548
This keeps happening whenever the chinks lock down some random city no one has ever heard of.

>>51302179
You're on /biz/ the default assumption is you're a retarded 13 year old

Ouch!

>>51302607
How exactly are you doing them, do you wait for a pump or dump then put on a call or put credit spread? ATM or OTM?

>>51302487
The energy companies make money when gas prices rise. But they still want to make money when they fall, too - so they short gas as a form of insurance. If prices rise, ok, they get paid as normal, and they just need to wait for prices to fall to close their shorts, no big deal, thats the cost of having insurance. If prices fall, they can close the shorts and make up the lost profits they missed by having their rates go down. They win both ways. The problem here is, they overleveraged a fuckload of short positions, prices have gone to the moon, and they are not coming back down. They are racking up interest daily on these positions and have no way of closing them without btfo unless the price of energy comes back down, which it wont, because putin has europe by the nuts on that front. The banks that facilitated these shorts wants their fucking money, and they are at the point of margin calling (aka game over) the energy companies to the tune of 1.5 trillion. Obviously the energy companies dont have that, so the only options are defaulting, which will crash the global economy, or having the EU bail them out and spike inflation by print the money to give to the banks.

This is oversimplified but yeah its a massive clusterfuck. Its like when someone discovers options and blows up their account and loses their life savings in the span of a week, except here the consequences is civil unrest.

>Futures

Rise, DXY, rise!

One more good charge and they collapse!

>>51302685
DEM FUCHAS BE DOING A LIL SUMTANG

>>51302680
Thank you anon, I was confused as to why the the positions were shorted. I didn't think they had done it themselves. Sounds greedy as fuck

>>51302677
some atm and some .3 delta way from the money
i either wait for a couple days pump or a day's painful dump depending on things to load up
tho i wouldn't look to write any put spreads right now, looking towards writing calls instead for a looooooooooong while only

>>51302608

>>51302112
Electric companies have extensive trading desks. Because electricity can't be stored and government regulations require electric companies to provide largely uninterrupted service, electricity is actually an extremely volatile commodity. No joke, electric companies have trading desks that make many hedge funds look like pikers.

WHAT THE FUCK SPY FUTURES DOWN TO 3,889 THIS IS THE HARBNIGGER OF END TIMES

>>51302680
>except here the consequences is civil unrest.

https://youtu.be/JND3kTJj7zQ
Sup faggots.
<3

Red futures = Green Day confirmed

>>51302421
Oh yeah that girl. I've got her videos saved on my server somewhere.. Dumb whore. Rich as hell (and in line to collect it all once daddy kicks) and she does porn..

Did Kevin O Larry scam me into dividend etfs?

So I'm still holding my SOXL. It appears to have stopped trading like a shitcoin recently and also I noticed the puts I bought lost money today despite the fact SOXL was red which makes me think we are damn close to the bottom. The china threat of invading Taiwan is a nothingburger, considering china is in no place financially to start a world war. I think the future is looking bright for us bottom buying SOXL bros.

>>51302680
Very well said actually.
>except here the consequences is civil unrest.
Good, down with the EU. Hail the nations of Europe.

>>51302032
aw lawd dem futes

>>51302266
Just start small. Butterfly spreads are super cheap anyways, especially when they aren't real wide, so you can practice them and learn them with barely any risk. They aren't just for crabs, either. They are very flexible

>>51302076

>>51302751
idk why people still think China invading Taiwan would be any different than Russia invading Ukraine.

>>51302751
> noticed the puts I bought lost money today despite the fact SOXL was red which makes me think we are damn close to the bottom.
Called IV crush u retard

>>51302773
China is a manufacturer to the world and the second largest economy while Russia is a third world shithole with nukes?

we've got a ways to go lads

>>51302751
SOXL IS NEAR THE BOTTOM!!!!!

You should buy the dip on oil and coal. This shit is going to explode higher because all of these green bullshit that is shutting down production.

Also once we enter into WW3 these commodities are destined to increase in price. Assets like facebook and apple will crash along with housing but consumer goods will continue to explode in price. We may even have a shortage of EVERYTHING if CHINA decides to stop importing. Also phones computers etc will get so expensive due to the shortage of advanced chips produced by Taiwan because they are getting nuked by CHINA.

Bring fourth the RENT era. everything from your underwear to your tooth brush will be rented. You will own nothing and be happy 2030.

Yen going PARABOLIC

>>51302773
At the end of the day nobody really cares about Ukraine as a country. The only value it holds is a possible NATO country ass to ass with Russia, hence why we want to protect them and why Russia wants to seize them. There are no real repercussions to the US either way. Taiwan on the other hand is very important to the US for various reasons.

Wait hold on, could we squeeze the european energy companies to make the bailout go higher?

>>51302796
finally another anon who sees the way

>>51302713
I see, thanks. I'm assuming it's the standard 45 dte? And how much of your account is on credit spreads? Like as an example it's 10% if you had 100,000 and the maximum loss for all your open spreads is 10,000.

>>51302788
I've heard that term and have no idea what it means or why I should care. I rarely fuck with options outside of protective hedges.

>>51302799
ME GUSTA

>>51302803
Chinkcoin Yuan also about to hit 7.00 flat.

>>51302823
IV% / vega is literally the most important factor in equity options. Don't trade options unless you understand volatility dynamics decently well (which takes a few months of no-bullshit studying and is very math/statistics/physics/geometry intensive)

>>51302076
oh yea. it's time baby.

>>51302826
SOXL!!!!!!!!

>>51302793
>>51302809
I mean militarily. We're not going to defend Taiwan militarily. We'll try to funnel in weapons and give them money, and wear Taiwan flag pins and put Taiwan flags outside yuppie's houses.
Economically that's a different story but WW3 isn't starting over Taiwan.

>>51302816
i like to
GAMBLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
i will utilize up to 100% of my account regardless of the amount
sometimes will look for mispriced puts to buy for pennies and hold onto for them for months
just take whatever will make you money, and don't take what doesn't make you money

>>51302751
You think the zero covid policy is actually about covid? They think we don't have the money to save the housing crash?

>Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

my my these Americans Jews are deceptively easily fooled. haha

>>51302801
Won't they make sure the masses have screens to beam in their continuous flow of propaganda, though? Even if they make everyone have a phone as part of UBI or something?

>>51302846

>>51302840
I see, well don't worry I'm really not someone who dabbles in options and never claimed to be.
>>51302848
It would be incredibly difficult for the US to get involved just because of the distance alone. We would make Korea and Japan do the work for us

Should I buy more SPY?

>>51302848
The war has already started, fren.

>>51302881
Unlike Ukraine, it's also an island lol. You can funnel weapons through eastern europe right up to the border.

>>51302793
>China is a manufacturer to the world and the second largest economy
And how exactly does that help them not turn out like r*ssia is in Ukraine right now?

Taiwan is also an island. They could probably bruteforce an assault but it would write itself into history books as bloodiest battle of all time.

>>51302881
>It would be incredibly difficult for the US to get involved just because of the distance alone.
Both those countries are basically US outposts anyway.

I don't have a clue how close Taiwan is to china but just eyeballing the map the distance ain't that large. Looks like all china has to do is park a bunch of mobile artillery trucks at the edge and fire away..

>>51302871
You will rent your iphones.

Looking in some space mobile plays.. GSAT?

>>51302801
>kpop anon now shilling energy
I don't feel so good about this. I remember SIGA

>>51302905
That's also why the west doesn't want Taiwan to fall into china's hands. In the event of a war, the west needs Ukraine for naval reasons.

>>51302888
No. You should buy more SPXL.

>>51302921
Taiwan's cities are all like 5 or 10 miles from the beaches. Combine D-Day with Stalingrad or Grozny and you've got a good rough approximation of how things go down.

>>51302925
ASTS is the usually shilled play here.

>>51302921
Close enough that bolo yeung swam from mainland china to Taiwan.

>>51302712
Options are extremely commonly used for insurance purposes. You are basically hedging against your own interests so that if the market moves against your position, your losses are washed away by the profits made on the short positions. Obviously i dont know the fine details, and i dont even know if its public knowledge, but it would appear that as energy prices kept rising, the companies kept opening more shorts because they were expecting prices to fall and the whole ukraine bullshit to be over quickly. Essentially to cover the pending losses from their losing bets, they made more bets, which lost, and so they made more bets, which are continuing to lose. All with money they dont actually possess. If they just took the L at the onset, they would be caking right now. Instead they kept betting and losing like desperate faggots and total collapse may be around the corner for the EU and its countries as they find that they cant afford to heat their own houses this winter. Likely to avoid civil war or being overthrown, the EU technocrats will push for outright war with the Russians, blaming them for everything. Except that too is a folly, because the entire reason Russia invaded Ukraine was to secure critical geographical chokepoints on their western front, which they are well on their way to doing. Same exact reason they invaded Georgia in 2008 - to secure critical chokepoints in the south. Look at the two regions that broke away from Georgia, and note that “coincidently” both those regions are the only two passes through the mountains there. Russia has agreements to keep thousands of troops stationed there for 49 years.

Its a big game of global 4D chess and right now Europe is getting BTFO hard. Russia doesnt give a fuck about optics because they know if they dont secure these locations, they are doomed in a peer adversary war. Its do or die for them.

>>51302915
>it would write itself into history books as bloodiest battle of all time.
Easily of this century and it wouldn't be close. >>51302939
They're also some of the most modern and densely populated cities in the world.

>>51302927
heh, maybe you should sell all of your commodities position. heh

>>51302793
Russia is pretty much destroying the global economy as we speak, bro

>>51302921
Taiwan has a bunch of smaller islands with installed artillery installations to counterfire them for exactly that event.

It's so over, you have no idea

>>51302972
Actually Russia is profiting from being sanctioned while Europe is about to implode.

>>51302921
>>51302976
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/taiwan-still-has-giant-world-war-ii-era-artillery-gun-pointed-china-104047

China would get completely btfo by Taiwan. It ends with them nuking Taiwan.

>>51302336
why were there coffee shops reporting 10k electricity bills then

JGBs still pegged at 0.25%. You know what that means!

>Yen 144

>>51302972
Is that a problem? The death of globohomo should be celebrated.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=yahUpxNPK98&feature=share

Fuck China, fuck Xi, fuck the CCP, fuck Wuhan, fuck Jack Ma, fuck Taiwan, fuck everything over there near the 115°E meridian. Everyday down down down, even after delisting fears were over. Really feels like someone or something is pushing me to capitulate.

I don't see a way out of this one boys.
You can't even protect your gains with PMs because those are manipulated with money printed from your own government.

All it takes is for the Saudis and OPEC to cut production a bit and BOOM, a new world order without America (Jews) at the front.

>I shilled EQNR and sold at $43. I told everyone that I did when oil went up but oil/gas stocks went down.
>"Why didn't you predict Energy companies were shorting their own energy products and suicided for 1.5 trillion?"
>bro what the fuck don't put that shit on me that's fucken nuts

The choice is yours chud. Vote D or your precious little SOXL will never be $20 again.

is vladimir putin the person of the year? i don't think time would name him that, but for me he definitely is for how he has the world by its balls.

THE SKY IS FALLING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>51303081
Republican its is then. Easy peasy.

>>51303076
U bought in at 38, sold at 43. Truly a legend. Please tell us the next play

>>51303081
>do what we say or we'll start a war.
Let's just go ahead with it at this point. Why delay the inevitable. Best team wins.

>>51303081
Silly goose, you know Republicans are all talk

i would suggest looking through my posts in the archives
:3

>>51303081
Oh no what a shame

>>51303012
Nobody except true schizos thinks they can invade or capture. They could theoretically deploy nuclear weapons but China getting into a nuclear warfighting situation is game over for them.

Let's go Brandon!!

>>51302915
There are so many reasons that it's unironically stupid anons even compare Ukraine and Taiwan. Russia literally set itself up for this. Russia has very little debt compared to China and their biggest export is oil and gas. On top of that Russia has a shit ton of cold war shit that was going to expire anyway so they are perfectly able to stretch this out as long as they want. China with it's heavy export manufacturing that they have propped up with toxic debt since they never made the move to a service economy which is needed to becoming a more developed country because you need a consumer base you can rely on, not the consumer base of foreign countries that could blacklist you. On top of that China relies on like 30% food imports. Honestly Russia is smarter and less cucked than China in regard to all these points.

>>51303109
>the next play
For me?
Its gotta be suicide. I'm so fucken depressed its unreal.

Please laugh.

>>51303081

>>51303119
>look at me I'm a tripfag troon
No

>>51303138
Doesnt he have soldiers to bury and women to send to the front lines?

>>51303081
Republicans are never going to stand up to feds LMAO, the picosecond any white male defends themself every single red team politician condemns them.

>>51303036
Contract renewal

>>51303156
Don't put too much stock into it anon. It's literally a celebrity (a woman at that) trying to flex from her gated community.

>>51303149
Don't say that fren. Exercise and start fishing. Do something fun instead of the same shit every day. You shouldn't be in front of a computer all day shit posting here. Change it up, delete social media, and get into nature

>>51303162
YOU VILL LOOK AT ME
AND YOU VILL LOOK THROUGH MY POZTZ

>>51303149

>>51303060
>The death of globohomo should be celebrated.
Yep, that's why I was excited to see Russia invade Ukraine. It was obvious from the start this would develop in to a proxy war between the globalist west and the nationalist east. NATO and globalists in general were behaving as though they could put all their plans in place without resistance. That hubris is the reason for the EU energy crisis. Globalists want green energy so bad because that significantly decreases the power OPEC can exert. Never had anything to do with the environment. If it was about the environment you'd still be hearing the word 'pollution' a lot. That word has mysteriously disappeared from the talking points. Nuclear is also not preferred because by globalists as it's just trading one natural resource for another with certain countries who have it getting a lot of power.

>>51303153
>The game ended before the complete conclusion of fighting, so it could get worse. The losses counted as historic by any modern measure but were limited in part due to long-range fires and precision targeting.

>But the land battle on Taiwan would likely devolve into brutal large-scale combat neither nation has seen in decades.

>>51303209
Hey schizo, are you shilling energy now?

>>51303092
No question. But they'll obviously bitch out and name Zelenskyyyy.

>>51303194
>>51303197
Thanks bros.
Yeah don't worry, I'm just venting. I need to get back to lifting.

>>51303109
The smallest gain is better than any loss.
>>51303146
Russia also didnt dam a giant river upstream of 400 million citizens.
>>51303163
okay i will bite. what is this fag gif and why have i been forced to see it in /smg/ for the last 3 months

More importantly, do you guys think steel is almost a buy? And is the shaman king remake worth watching?

>>51303207
>it totally didn't accelerate globohomo at all gois!

>>51303207
They projected their plans in 2019.

>>51302076
Is this it? Are the two weeks finally over?

>>51303239
DWAAAAAAAAAAAC

>>51303239
Its the jew thats getting his shit pushed in by Putin.

>>51303239
>More importantly, do you guys think steel is almost a buy?
Same as energy, industrial metals face collapsing demand as the global recession recesses globally. Except they don't have an OPEC+ to back them up.

>>51302730
Ralof?

>>51303223
Yes. Why? are you going to short it like a dummy?

>>51303252
No, but they will be in just 2 more weeks.

>>51303241
This guy gets it. Please Clap.

IS THIS THE CRASH? IS THIS THE CRASH IS THIS IT IS EVERYONE ABOUT TO GET LIQUIDATED

WE PANIC SOON?
TOO LATE TOO SHORT?

answers I DEMAND ANSWERS WHAT SHOULD WE DO

>>51303332
Sorry, but Reuters just confirmed that MBS is a BITCH. WTI 80 EOW

>>51303270
Yeah but everyone needs steel and i was thinking that since steel is technically a second order commodity which requires an input to produce that most of the demand destruction losses would be absorbed by the iron ore contracts which feed the steel producers. Is this illogical? Smelting furnaces literally cant be turned off you know, mines can sit idle until theyre needed again but furnaces need to be kept on or the assets cool down into an unusable brick. And if too many do shut down that then smelting capacity stays low until more furnaces get rebuilt from scratch.

idk i feel like there is something to be done here soon but maybe im thinking about it wrong.

Should we short SLV to declare war on PMG?
Silver is an industrial metal bros.

>>51303252
hey buddy, i dont remember giving you permission to save my asobi asobase jpegs. this is why we need nfts.

>>51303252
you dont know?

>>51302146
Yes this is the lesson that will be taught in highschools 100 years from now

>>51302076
The Swiss are trying to do a bailout.

I tell you all what, if they are that stupid enough to pull that off, then we could end up being in a global depression.

>>51303385
BIPPITY BOPPITY BOOP, HARBY IS A JEW

>>51303399
"Everyone needs steel" - China (aka Housing Bubble: The Country) is responsible for, what, half of global steel demand?

Then in Europe how much steel does BMW use? How about when their factories are shut down?

>most of the demand destruction losses would be absorbed by the iron ore contracts which feed the steel producers. Is this illogical?
Stopping the flow of dollars into steel fucks over both steel *and* iron ore. Sure, you'll smelt and mine less but, as you say, there's minimum production that producers will continue dumping on the market to keep their lights on and furnaces from breaking.

The situation's a lot like oil wells not being shutoff in early 2020. And I think we all remember what that did to prices...

>>51303410
Aren't they autistic about PSLV instead? SLV is just paper.

>>51303410
>Silver is an industrial metal bros

>>51302032
Ok. Let's say everything crashes this month.

What are the top 5 tickers to pick up at 90% discount? No meme picks like uranium or siga

>>51303385
People think the yield curve is predicting the EURO energy crises others think it something in the repo market will break. I think the yield curve is predicting a black swan event similar to the last one like Covid.

C-H-I-N-A Go CHINK CRAZY on Thai-Wan.

>>51303519
SOXL

>>51303521
>predicting a black swan even

>Futures

>>51303519
I'm just going to keep trading leveraged index funds and maaaaybe soxl if conditions feel right.

>>51303489
My dad's house is built out of steel, because it was built right after ww2 when there was a glut, and it was cheaper than lumber.

Steel houses round 2 fuck yes

I gotta be honest I have less than no idea what Im doing
I watch half of a trading strategy video, wing the rest and somehow make 15% a year
All my trades are based on whatever strategy comes up on my youtube suggestions
You may have heard of product indifference or market indifference but I have ascended to pure indifference
It appears to still be working in a bear market too
I was almost worried Id have to actually learn something

>>51303519
>uranium or siga

Fuck you. i would buy those in a heartbeat.

Probably INTC, but that may crash even harder once china invades taiwan, but once the dust settles I can see INTC skyrocketing because it will have a temporary monopoly on the chips market.

I would stay away from any tech sector as the chip shortage will cause these stocks to tank and it will take a long time AFTER the WAR for it to start recovering. Buy companies people MUST need not want to have. Like fertilizer, coal, uranus, copper, base metals, natural gas.

>>51303565
>Steel houses round 2
It's all gonna be apartments anon. Sorry.

>>51303534
What's weoird is that futes are pretty red despite bond yields being flat. I guess it's in response to DXY continuing to climb and Asian markets getting wrecked.

>>51303526
all i heard was please pump my bags

>>51303580
Fuck this monkey paw modern world

If there is one thing I've learned from the market its that:
They would rather you lose money and they make no money than you both making money.

>>51303528
EURODOLLAR curve is predicting negative interest rates next year. Something hopefully will pop off..

Welcome to the Decade of Destruction. Everything from your gains, profits, stocks crypto, housing and your bussy are about to get wrecked.

>>51303594
I mean I'll buy soxl at $1.2 a share.

>>51302751
Top signal

>>51302076
Good to have you back papa, your just in time.

>>51303597
No man were all in this together
We are like an ant colony except instead of building a neat we are doing price discovery
This allows the market to be efficient and allocate capital to the companies that can take advantage of that capital
The best part is you can do it on your phone while driving on the highway or on the john on your break at work

>>51303594
Why do you niggers think I'm trying to dump bags on you? Collectively /smg/ couldn't move SOXL a quarter of a point.

>>51303585
Remember during QE how a flat day in the markets felt like an unexpected loss? Like 0% on SPY meant that some bad news must've dropped somewhere but just got canceled out by Fed buying?

Well now with QT in full swing, I think we'll have to read flat days for bond yields as a "blood red flight to safety bid" being canceled out.

>>51303598
>negative interest rates next year

>>51303598
Are you trying to say that the extreme economic conditions combined with the energy crisis, are enough to push an already strained situation over the edge?

eg: food prices and the arab spring and immigrant crisis that followed afterwards.

Do I understand you correctly sir?

I knew the world economy was finished when I saw this self defense situation.

they could have built nuclear plants
they could have had a nice cozy winter
they could have reduced emissions
they could have bought 18$ uranium

now they will die in the cold and buy 200$ uranium

>>51303671
>that video of the germans laughing at trump when he warned them of this

>>51303671
Crashing europe with no survivors is a fitting way to finish the 100 years after the holocaust
Maybe next time whitey will think twice about murdering 1.2 million jews

>>51303683
They were laughing because they were profiting off the selling of europe to russia

>>51303671
Post yfw 1 barrel of oil == 1 uranium

>>51303693
>1.2 million jews
cool it with the antisemitism

>>51303683
Temba, his arms wide.

>>51303668
No joke Sam is pretty good at boxing, it's just he's an out of shape piece of shit and so was the other guy. Gassing him out and then beating the shit out of him was smart.

>>51303693
1.5 trillion in margin calls to remember the 1.5 trillion Jews killed in strictly the Eastern German camps inspected by the soviets with doctored pictures.

Justice is served goys.

>>51303718
Well east germans were communists so of course they were evil

>>51303693
>Maybe next time whitey will think twice about murdering 1.2 million jews
So, they'll actually go through with it this time?

>>51303660
THE FORBIDDEN TECHNIQUE

>>51303597
Where is that fren, Iceland? Wish I could join you there

>>51302345
damn, taylor's face looks fine but that body has seen better days

>>51303798
Don't look at Lana Del Rey now

>>51303798
Thick days ahead friend

>>51303798
we love all the shapes of taylor

>>51303815
>if you build it they will cum

>>51303715
He is an alright amateur boxer. Technique wise he still has a long way to go too.

>>51303660
>>51303662
The guy who said Inflation was a tranny-tory is now saying Fed is getting ready to pivot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsLZfXUGvxg

>>51303880
I need to buy ibonds

Why did we drop like a rock at open?

>>51303791
No idea. I just love that picture.

>>51303939
I sold

>>51303939
It's a real fucking mystery.

They started hiking more aggressively because they realized high-inflation is a much greater threat to their power than a crash is.
anyone hoping for a pivot at this point is a deluded perma-mumu.
And it doesn't stop there. To keep the housing market from imploding they'd not only need to stop hiking, but lower the fed funds rate from 2.5 down to 1 point or less.
It would be a huge credibility hit, even to the media which is always trying to cover for them.

Jerome realized its impossible to get inflation down without popping the asset bubble. And doing it in a long term manner is just more painful than short term.

>>51303939
if the 10 YR pumps, we dump

>>51303992
A mystery indeed. Just trying to shake out the last paper handed faggots.

>>51303660
>>51303772
Holy shit no
It’s unspeakable

>>51304035
shallom

DIAMOND HANDS HOLD THE LINE
ROCKET SHIP BBBY TO DA MOOOOOOOOON ALL MEME STOCKS ATH END OF YEAR. OPERATIONS SIDEWAYS SHORT DIAGONAL LADDER ATTACK SQUIZZLE MY NIGGLE OOOO

>>51303598
So basically like Japan's asset bubble leading to the lost decade...but for Europe.

>>51304056
Shalom...

>$1.5 trillion bailout for margin called energy companies
>the ENTIRE Germany budget is only $500 billion

Uranium stocks are out performing everything right now, not that they are exactly gaining much but everything is shitting the bed so hard that not losing money is the place to be

>>51304149
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
Wait why is this happening?
Is it because math?

>>51304186
they actually thought they could sanction literally every russian connection to the west and they would just keep providing energy like usual. HOW DARE THEY CUT US OFF

>>51304104
Yep. Then to the US in 2033. Tyler, start of tribulations, end game 2045. It's all known

>>51304199
So they took out margin to short uhhhhh russian sanctions?

So many years have gone by in /smg/. Me and scoopsies have a complicated past, but at the end of the day we love each other. It's a classic example of rich fag poor Chad. Scoopsies no matter what happens in the stock market I'll be there for you. To sing your bussy a lullaby...

>>51304186
>energy companies still wanna make money when the price goes down
>so they greedily short their own stock
>problem is prices are going higher so they can't buy back the shares they need
>they are accruing interest
>banks are pissed and margin calling them demanding them to buy expensive stock to pay them back
>this total is $1.5 trillion

Is it a bad time to pay cash for a house? I kind of want to flip something and have it sold in January

>>51304221
goddamn man you really need a life

>bros futures are recovering

>>51304232
A life? I'm about to make a video about SOXL. Your life compared to me buying the bottom of SOXL is insignificant....

Bears are getting euphoric

>>51304224
No way they short their own stock. They short the commodity right?

>>51304287
i meant that yearh im sleepy

>>51304275
bull bros.........we cant let this one eyed bobo win

>>51304240
Fun fact. This is what happens to a lot of roiders. The tendons don't grow as fast as the muscle. And combined with questionable form they snap their shit up

>>51304300
is that what does it?

>>51304309
That and tendons not recovering as fast as the muscle. I think hgh can fix that though. A lot of athletes use hgh to recover from injuries

>>51304309
yeah its basically all roiders
they add 10 pounds every other week until suddenly they are curling 245 pounds and their connective tissue (which isn't stimulated to grow with anabolics) suddenly fails

>>51304240
Do his arms still work after that? Looks painful.

>>51304348
it will heal, but injuries like that often take surgeries and months of physical therapy
his strength will never be the same
dont roid kids

>>51303399
If there is another lockdown, oil and steel are getting pummeled. Auto production and construction like roads and buildings will all take a hit like the first time around.
But if we continue going back to normal steel could be a big play. I'm unironically tempted to get some leap calls on X or CLF.

im quite interested in selling options, what strategies would you recommend for limited risk? i dont want to sell naked options

>>51304352
Zuck and Bezos are doing just fine, seems to add to quality of life for many men

>>51304370
I've never known anyone so willing to lose money

>>51304385
yeah its not hard to avoid bicep tears
just dont ego lift and try to low-rep-max. increase your weight no more than 5 or 10 pounds per lift per week, and stick to 10ish rep sets. give yourself plenty of time to recover and eat a shitload of protein

>>51304396
actually ive been studying options for about 2 years but i dont trade them much. just interested in what other anons are doing as premium sellers

>>51304419
Theyre all losing money

>>51304419
Short volly during earnings. If you get it right you make good cash. Get it wrong; lose all those gains.

>>51304396
Options are whatever you want them to be. Most people, like you, only hear the lottery ticket gambly stories about them.

>>51304435
anon, premium sellers are usually on the winning side, especially if they limit risk with covered calls or csps

>>51304300
The guy doesn't look juiced though.

>>51304438
you can short volatility while being delta neutral
there is virtually always an IV crush after earnings. you rly can't lose as long as you short 0dte or buy to close both contracts at the same time

>>51304446
he looks like he's been juicing for like 3-6 months and discovered his muscles were ballooning fast enough for him to add 10 pounds to his lifts every week

>>51304446
You would be surprised how many people juice that you don't realize. They're not all bodybuilder sized

>>51304462
his shoulders are so small though. he really doesn't have the look.

>>51304496
>>51304496
>>51304496
>>51304496

>>51304488
because he hasn't been juicing for 10 years you stupid fucking nigger
people dont turn into superman by injecting tren a half dozen times

>>51302276
That bbw in blue jeans, I want her wide hips on my lap

>>51303081
but I do want a civil war

>>51304499
No need to juice for 10 years to be able to tell.

I'm doing well with UVIX.
When do I sell this shit?

>>51304438
Double diagonals

is there any way to get wsj ft bloomberg etc news for free

>>51302967
The thing you need to consider here regarding Taiwan is that bugmen want this piece of dirt not necessarily the people. The chinks will probably just want to flatten everything besides industrial zones. If
it happens it will be funny. 23 or 60 million casualties are irrelevant to bug.