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Feelin good bros, about halfway through getting every silver state quarter and should be able to pick up the 2004 set this weekend. I want to rate every quarter from worst to best based on design and sculpt, should I do it as a tier list image or something else like a greentext?

>>51275784
make a youtube video

>>51275784
>I want to rate every quarter from worst to best based on design and sculpt,

My absolute favorite is the kino Connecticut Charter Oak quarter, Maryland and Wyoming suck and are probably at the bottom of the list.

>>51275784
Tier list. It'd be a lot easier to visualize than a greentext, although I will admit greentext allows for more in-depth descriptions.

Good afternoon, gents

>>51275685
You have about the same value as my stack.

>>51275939
>2 wiener coin

>>51275887
My least favorite is Alabama's coin. It's fucking Helen Keller. Alabama has such a neat history, yet they chose a blind, deaf Communist retard to represent the entirety of the state's history? Bullshit.
Although, it could have been worse. It could've had a "Cibil Ryets" nigger on it.

>>51275685
Today is the only day I can post this
Happy Labor day gentlemen

>>51275885
No because foolishly my Youtube account has been my real name and I made it like 8 years ago, even if I changed it there's too many things I commented on with my real name
Plus my voice sounds awful, I sound like a gay cat with a sinus infection
>>51275887
Yeah Wyoming is definitely my absolute least favorite so far, the silhouette sculpt is cool in theory but garbage in execution. Even the perfect proof version looks flat and tacky. Plus I'm pretty sure there already was a quarter with a horse bucking a rider, it's incredibly uncreative. I'm working backwards from 2009 down to 1999 since I saw the 2009 set was starting to get expensive, I didn't want to wait on it.

memecoins are dangerous. their sale and discussion should be illegal

>>51276078
>Happy Labor day gentlemen
Same to you fren. I may take tomorrow off as well. I work outside. Supposed to be a high of 62 degrees and rain all day. Fuck. That. Shit.

Would anyone be interested in doing a secret santa?

>>51276313
>secret santa
>on /biz/
I'm not opposed to fun but there's a billion and one ways for that to go horribly

>>51276424
True, I just like this thread and a SS would be pretty great.

>>51275784
Very cool, anon. Which is your favorite design so far? For me, it's Anna May Wong, the best best Profile of Change from the US Mint's American Women Quarters Program. I really hope they release a 5 oz silver bullion coin of her. I think that would be a neat investment.

>>51275685
>Gone Fishin Edition: how to avoid nautical disasters

Does anyone have a "Holy Grail" piece they hope to acquire someday? Personally, I want an "X27" variant of a 1938 2 Reichsmark, which features Hitler instead of von Hindenburg. How about you?

>>51276512
The Gothic Crown, very hard to find though

Is it time to slurp???

>>51276775
My guess is spot is going down the next few weeks until bottoming out. The FED rate hike this month is going to suppress spot further. The question is whether retail price is going to go down to match.

>>51276464
This is a me thing but I really hate that the most recent US proof coins are now overly frosted. The whole point of a proof coin is to see details better, you can't fucking do that if the entire surface is covered in grainy white shit.

I can't pick a favorite state quarter yet, I really love everything from the 2009 series and as for ATB Block island is an easy favorite, the details on the sand and the waves are simply stellar.

Favorite quarter overall is titty standing liberty but I'm not paying $1500 for 6 grams of nipple

wow i was bitching in the thread a few days ago that bgasc prices were fucking terrible and that it was ridiculous because they were going out of business. what a surprise to find out that A-mark bought them too

everyone on youtube has basically figured out the same shit we did which was the only 3 places to get great deals now are bold, monument, and sd bullion.

My order of animal coins should arrive today according to the tracking email
Good times

>>51276775
Its the only time.

>>51276835
for me, its tall grass prairie

>>51275968
Gold makes me cum. I want 2 gold coins on my eyes in my grave. Preferably Bible images on the coins.

>>51276858
Is that the one with the butterflies and the grass? ATB was a great series, really love that (most) of them were just about making beautiful art. I got Bombay Hook for my 25th birthday because I love birds, and great blue Herons are one of my favorites.
I probably like those even more than state quarters and will collect those soon but since state sets are really cheap right now I don't want to pass up what could potentially be the bottom.

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>>51276731
Is it bad that the first thing I noticed about this coin is that the lady on the obverse has adorable Katara-esque braids?
Seriously, that is one cool coin though. The reverse is sublimely detailed.

>>51276512
THERE ACTUALLY WAS A HITLER COIN?
I NEED IT ALL I HAVE ARE HITLER STAMPS

>>51276835
Ah I feel you. Now that I look at them again, they are very very frosty.

>>51276464
These are so tacky holy shit who buys these?

>>51276930
i also like the mt denali one

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>>51276464
>Anna May Wong
I mean, out of the five she's the only fuckable one, so I'm inclined to agree with you.
>>51276835
> I really hate that the most recent US proof coins are now overly frosted
Yes! Thank you, I thought I was the only one who noticed this.
>>51276985
Yes, it was a special issue "medal" of sorts. There are also a plethora of exonumia with Hitler on them.

>>51277010
heh, I actually have that one. Only if I can find the pic l took of it.

>>51276835
>point of a proof
Was my impression (pun noted) that proof means early presses and mirror-like blank areas. Frosting doesn't need to lack detail, pic related.

For AtB, I liked the Arches (mostly because of the natural strangeness) and Voyageurs.

>>51277024
this really is one of the nicer coins ie seen. , which mint made this?

>>51276138
>I sound like a gay cat with a sinus infection
you can just say you're jewish for brevity's sake

>>51276991
>wants generic buffalo bars
>calls Anna May Wong's quarter tacky
lol

>>51277041
Yes, she was a very pretty lady.

>>51277115

Imaging actually giving this person your money.

what is my 1 ounce gold homer coin worth

>>51277224
>looks one quarter black
>african american

is she just as black as kamala

>>51277106
But I'm not, I just very unfortunately sound like a gay cat with a sinus infection
Sounding like a jewish person would be an upgrade, at least some of their voices can be very fun like Larry King or Jerry Seinfeld
>>51277085
Proof does mean that, specifically the word "proof" comes from two things-
>Fresh new dies
>pressing the same coin at least twice to ensure strikes are consistent
That's literally it. A lot of older proofs such as the old manilla envelope US proof sets with the Franklin halves aren't frosted like modern sets are because as far as I know same planchets as regular coins were used. But they do become shiny because the flat areas are pressed so much the microscopic grains in the metal are flattened to a point the coin is reflective.
The reason modern proofs have the frosting is because they use burnished coin planchets to strike on, which gives them the frostiness. BU coins have a similar process but proofs are just going overboard with it now to hype up the NGC/PCGS FIRST ISSUE ULTRA DEEP MIRROR CAMEO+ GEM70 collector fags

>>51277249
>EARLY RELEASE, BLUE LABEL

>>51277224
I Miss Edmund Moy, he's a true numisfag who wrote books on coins (I own his book on the Gold/Platinum eagles program, good read) and directed great stuff at the mint. Plus he doesn't like Joe Biden which is always nice to see.

>>51277093
The CIT Mint in Liechtenstein, they use smart laser minting technology on their coins.

https://www.coin-invest.li/collections/shades-of-nature/

Anon seems upset by my neat Anna May Wong quarter. I hope he's going to be okay; sounds like he needs a hug.

>>51277249
What does he do now? I wonder why he left the US Mint.

>>51276846
>My order of animal coins should arrive today
I also ordered a bunch of animals, and a bunch of squares, due to arrive tomorrow. I'll be waiting by the mailbox at 10:25 AM ready to give my signature to my lazy bitch of a mail lady who will otherwise not walk her fat ass up to my door and will instead leave a piece of paper saying no one was there to sign for the package. Anyway, can't wait to get my shinies.

Reposting this from the last thread since I came in at the end

Let’s say hypothetically it becomes illegal to own gold and silver. How do you trade your gold on the black market, can you paint me a picture/give me a diagram of what that’s going to be like? (Like a greentext of you making a purchase and bringing it home)

Hard mode: in addition to gold and silver being made illegal, we have also converted to a cashless society with centralized digital currencies and all money transactions are tracked.

There is no reason to believe what you guys are doing here won’t be illegal, you are literally trying to undermine the power of a corrupt government and monetary system right as it is potentially headed to war which will encourage extrajudicial power. There is precedent even for the confiscation of gold. How does precious metals work out for you in the worst case scenario?

I came here a week or so ago and mostly got flamed and then banned for politics, and you guys told me to watch videos by Mike Maloney so I did and what has struck me is that he seems to be convinced everything that is happening is because those in control are arrogant and incompetent. Is that generally how you guys feel as well, do you not consider the possibility that it’s not incompetence but actual malevolence? If they are purposefully trying to kill the economy and have the power to do so, why would you get away with thwarting them? Do you know what owning and using an illegal currency that cannot be traded for cash is actually going to be like? Should you know?

>>51277024
Bought this for my mom's birthday this year. She loves hummingbirds.

What will the going rate for yotsubas be on release I didn’t order one I’ll have to buy second hand

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>>51277072
Got you covered

>>51276828
No way. Premiums will increase. Same as mortgage prices- as rates go up, price goes down. Hasnt always been that way, but like housing, supply is not near demand.

>>51277525
In the same boat, bro. Feels bad man.

>>51277286
so maybe a little more sophisticated than sand casted bullshit

>>51277346
gook lover are you the anon with the gook wife or are there more than one of you? just curious

>>51277562
but there really isnt a supply shortage, unless youre talking about the clusterfuck that is the american silver eagle

>>51277602
>>51277525
I think holoanon said there would be a few for sale directly through him for those who missed out. What the price will be who knows.

>>51277408
Hopefully we are both enjoying our silver over the next couple days friend
I bought a lucky dip lot so im looking forward to seeing what designs I actually got

>>51277286
guys, dont know if you were aware but this mint was way ahead of everyone on the 4chan coins

https://www.cit.li/collections/four-leaf-clovers/

>>51277680
>im looking forward to seeing what designs I actually got
did you buy a tube of randoms or something?

>>51277443
>do you not consider the possibility that it’s not incompetence but actual malevolence?
Yes, and I've know this for years.
>why would you get away with thwarting them?
Because I'm not retarded. Plus, I live in a fairly-rural area where bartering, trading things, and doing odd jobs for under-the-table "cash money" is already common and has been for generations. This would be no different.

Asking how people are going to "get away" with trading precious metals if they become outlawed is the same as asking how people got away with acquiring alcohol during Prohibition, or how potheads get weed in states where it's banned, or how people arm themselves in jurisdictions where guns are restricted or outright prohibited.
The answer is simple. They "get away" with it by just doing it and not giving a fuck.

>>51277459
Bot post.
>yes, some people read all of the /pmg/ threads and don't have the memory of a boomer, Mr. JMBullion
Chapta: 88 NZJ

>>51277603
A lot of the high end bullion coins you see out on the market are minted by this company but not a lot of people have even heard about them, they actually put a lot of effort into them unlike most mints who couldn't give a shit.

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Beautiful stacks!

>>51277736
Are you saying I'm a bot, or I was replying to a bot? I'm not sure what your post means.

>>51277443
i can't give a complete answer as i'm stepping outside my intellectual wheelhouse, but in a currency crisis scenario there might inevitably be some buyer somewhere who's willing to pay for a hard asset. in ancient rome, there were serious concerns about depletion and debasement of precious metals for currency, because so much money was being sent to other countries in exchange for things like grains, pepper, etc. they were literally running out of the necessary materials for their currency. i can see something similar happening now. obviously we know there's a precedent for the US making gold possession illegal, but if they were to try and do something similar with gold and silver now, all it would take is some foreign country or union of countries willing to pay a fair price for all that American metal to be sent overseas, never to return. i think even the idiots in charge now have to know how dangerous that is. if, say, brazil ever participates in a metal-backed currency while the US is banning it, you know i'm taking my stack over there if that's what it takes, scooping up some brics dollars, and finessing that into whatever material wealth i want

>>51277712
Basically, the store was selling older stuff that they obviously bought off someone and the listing said no requests for specifics
I bought 20 to see if id get anything cool

>>51277869
Well that's pretty neat. I'm curious. Be sure to post pics.

>>51276512
Isn't it a fantasy issue tho? Like the Mussolini liras

>>51277652
>AE clusterfuck
Good point. I notice however it still druves premiums on rounds.
>t. almost 100% of silver is ASEs
>feelz güd man

>>51276731
That's beautiful! But jeez those proof ones cost more than my car

>>51277955
Will do

>>51277958
As far as I know, it was a legitimate coin, although one which was minted far less than the 1938's with Hindenburg on them.

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>>51278362
When I search around online it says they're silver plated, one site referenced a date of 1989. It's a bit confusing but I suspect they're not actually from 1938, still quite cool though.

>>51277443
Swap gold/silver with bitcoin, and you can already see how it works. Except that the metals don't need anything special to function.
For the other part of your question, just consider the fact that every one of those western leaders is following the WEF "build back better" script, and most/all of them have even given speeches with that mantra plastered somewhere nearby them. It's clearly not a case of them being incompetent or stupid, they're simply pawns, nothing more. They must believe they're on the winning team and will be rewarded for their great job at destroying the existing structures, so that the banking cartel can usher in their new one.

>>51277443
Americans have been dealing in the black market since colonial days. What makes you think people will suddenly be unable to figure out how person to person trade actually works? You know, people can actually buy and sell drugs and weapons IN FUCKING PRISON? And you imagine that some tranny government is going to be able to stamp out the black market?

>>51277618
I have a Japanese GF. Does that count? Oh, and she loves Ron Paul, wants me to teach her to shoot for political reasons, and thinks stacking is brilliant.

>>51278354
>>51278374
Thanks for posting this quality content, fren. Trading jewelry post-collapse is something I've never actually thought of before, although it's definitely worth considering.

post ballsacks or gtfo shills

>>51267984
Thanks scrapanon. I appreciate the tips and the links even if your haters claim you LARP. Honestly I don't care if you're real or not, you've provided me with resources and information. If it's all bogus then that's on me for being an idiot but I appreciate it nonetheless.

>>51278631
>Trading jewelry post-collapse is something I've never actually thought of before, although it's definitely worth considering.

I have a few kilos of silver jewelry saved for bartering or resale, no sense in melting nice undamaged pieces.

>>51278733
Happy to help anytime fren!

>>51277115
You've got faggot feminist coins. You could only sink lower with a Hanukkah or Biden coins

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>>51277224
Is she why the mint is all sorts of dicked up right now and can't make enough ASEs?

Minted the Sam Hyde nfts today. Should I rope?

>>51276187
it won't get that cold here for another month and a half lucky.
Also wtf is your pic?
>>51277842
Thanks fren!
>>51277041
>I mean, out of the five she's the only fuckable one, so I'm inclined to agree with you.
Based
>>51276991
Me. I am going to aquire an Anna may wong one for my coomer stack. I wanna fuck her so bad.
>>51276985
There was some country in south America that released gold bullion coins with every ww2 leader on them. Good luck finding let alone getting a Hitler one. They're very rare.
>>51277618
There are many

>>51279034
Not her. Just her masters. Silver shortage at the USMint from Covid days. Theyre all faggots.

>>51279215
Its a little more then that, the US mint is restricted to only buy silver at spot. Since spot is fake bs, they cant accumulate enough silver at spot to meet demand. Other mints don't have this restriction.

>>51279313
pls explain. Spot is artificially low, yet they cant buy at spot.

>>51278916
You absolutely can go lower, anybody got a picture of that painted Rick and Morty coin with the hexagram on it?

>>51279365
This guy is click baity and annoying but does a decent job explaining this.
https://youtu.be/JL60Zlgc8fE
Basically no one wants to sell the US mint silver blanks at spot when they can just sell it for more themselves.

>>51279074
There was exactly one /pmg/ trading card worth anything and you missed the boat a long time ago. Don't rope, but don't expect a Sam Hyde card game to take off anytime soon.

>>51279434
Roger. TY Fren.

>>51279201
>Also wtf is your pic?
You find weird shit when you work outdoors. Previous to finding this head we stumbled upon hair coming out of the ground. We thought it was a shallow grave. Relieved that it was just a wig that had been partially buried for a decade or more.

>>51278733
Bro. He has a 20 kg stack of silver with no timestamp and claims it cost him $10 per oz all in and he only spends a few
hours per week. It’s an obvious larp. I just don’t understands what he gets from it. Honest money attracts honest people. That’s why a lot of us are here. Liars and deceivers have no place among us. He won’t post a bit of proof. The stuff he does post only raises more uncertainty.

>>51279761
>The stuff he does post only raises more uncertainty.
about what?

>>51279761
i believe Evey word he says, but digging in trash for forks and plates is not precious metals general relevant

Get my biweekly wagecuck check this Friday. Due to vehicle repairs I'll only have enough fiat to trade for one tube. What's it going to be? Krugs, Brits, Wieners, Arks or Roos? I already have a tube of Maples and 20oz of fractional Canadian polar bears so it's gotta be a tube of the coins.

>>51279776
About his claims that he finds 10s of kilos of extremely cheap sterling and has it refined for $10 per oz all in costs and he only spends a few hours per week looking for sterling. Brass anon is more believable than this guy. You may think that guy’s gold is brass, but at least he isn’t posting it and claiming he only pays $10k for each of his kilo bars. That would be the equivalent to what the sterling poster does. No proof and outrageous claims.

Yotsuba shipped, it's finally time

>>51280010
Rent free, lmao

>>51276151
^this

>>51279814
do you have a NAFTA set?
what about tubes from the 5 eyes?

>>51280010
why tf do u care? i get sterling too and melt it when i have enuff. believe it dont believe it idc fagget

>>51275685
how much silver are you guys trying to own?

>>51280343
As much as my back can handle

>>51275784
Idaho is the worst. The Peregrine Fund gave Kempthorn a shit ton of money so now our quarter is just a fucking bird

>>51279007
Hey PhotoAnon, do you have the Pictured Rocks National Lakeshore coin?

>>51280343
>how much silver are you guys trying to own?

As much as possible, howabout you?

>>51280343
all of it

>>51280444
Witnessed.

>>51280429
i have a plot of lot thats worth 80k (bought it for 5k in 2008)
gonna sell it and by 25k worth of silver works out to so 1000 ounces.
I think the Dollar is legit going to,no larp this time, collapse within the next 5 years to 8 years.

>>51279201
>There was some country in south America that released gold bullion coins with every ww2 leader on them.
I just finished a bit of research on this. That would be the Banco Italo-Venezolano in Venezuela. They produced the "Leaders of the Second World War" series from 1957-1959. There were 17 or 18 coins in the series, and they were the equivalent of 90 Bolivares.

>>51278569
I hope you two are going to get married and have babies. Why do the childless even stack PMs?

>>51280488
Neat series.

>>51280488
Checked heil hitler. How much for Hitler and where to buy?!

>>51280506
So I can afford to raise a big family post-collapse.

>>51280477
>i have a plot of lot thats worth 80k (bought it for 5k in 2008)
>gonna sell it and by 25k worth of silver works out to so 1000 ounces

Sounds pretty based, what kind of land is it? I'm hoping to get some properties if silver ever moons, real estate was so cheap in 2011 when metals peaked but I didn't have the stack to take advantage of the opportunity, nice comfy houses on big lots for under 15k in my hometown, not in the niggerghetto either.

>>51280560
>where to buy
Wherever you can find a gluten-free sasquatch. They're notoriously hard to find, and as such they are quite expensive, although I'm having a hard time nailing down an exact price for you.

>>51280506
Thanks, Fren. I hope so too.

>>51280590
>gluten-free sasquatch.
You weren't kidding, I can't find any for sale.

>>51277224

stunning & brave

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>>51276954
God, these are beautiful. I could never justify the premium on those. I only have a dumb queens beast big boy

>>51280477
Any advice on buying land?

>>51280088
scrap chad if its really you i wanted to say i went to the big yearly yard sale in Boulder and those fuckers only had quadruple plated bullshit i was pissed

>>51276731
Looks like they’ve been making new ones but unfortunately they have queen Elizabeth on it

>>51281486
Sorry to hear fren, do you have any ARC thrift stores around you in Colorado? For whatever reason they frequently get and sell cheap sterling, I don't really bother with goodwills when I'm in state but always check the ARCs if i have time, got this 257g sterling dish for 3.99+tax at one in Denver several weeks ago, and checked one in Ft Collins last week when I was picking up bars from the refinery. I didn't find any silver, but later that same day a scrapperbuddy checked the store and got about 20 ounces of Egyptian .900 silver for $21, barely missing the 'tards stock it on the shelf made me butthurt lol but you can't get it all.

>>51281713
there is an ARC nearby ill have to take a look thank you for the frenly advice. i want one of those beautiful kilo bars and its probably fun to collect up all the scrap to get it in the end

>>51277443
>How do you trade your gold on the black market, can you paint me a picture/give me a diagram of what that’s going to be like?
Yes, corrupted government officials close their eyes in exchange for a cut.
Did you think that the people who corrupt the current system will be obedient cogs in the future?

hahahaha i need one of these

https://www.jmbullion.com/1-oz-inflation-is-coming-series-unleash-the-beast-silver-round/

>>51275931
Darkness is great, but I really like boats and gold.

>>51280426
Yes, I do , I do I do I do I do...
(great - now I've got ABBA going through what's left of my head)...
I'm thinking of doing the whole series again though - I left a light shield off the camera lens, and you can see an arc reflected in the coins. But there's so much else to do, too. Meh.

>>51280429
I wanted at one point to start collecting sassanid stuff but ehhh it all looks the same to me.

>>51281798
Yeah it's a fun hobby, you should also check www.estatesales.net for estates being liquidated in your area, many are online auction format which are gay but plenty of old-fashioned tag sales are still conducted down there, there was one running from the 1st-3rd of a deceased literal Jew in a suburb of Denver, there was a whole China cabinet full of .800 and sterling silver probably 10kgs worth, not sure about prices I couldn't make it to check. Being an early bird at a good estate sale can earn you one or multiple kilo bars at once, i like them far more than thrift stores and garage/yard sales. Definitely keep an eye on that website and good luck fren.

>>51280343
Trying... huh. I have no idea. I keep buying stuff that's pretty. I don't know what would make me stop, although I'm at a point where factory-generic bars hold no interest.

>>51281977
Yeah I have several but actively collecting them doesn't really appeal, cool to have some because their diameter is impressive for ancient coinage but Greek and Roman stuff is much more interesting.

>>51281957
>boats and gold.
classic hobbies but use caution like when drinking and driving

Numisnigger shit keeps tempting me bros. I know I need to save more money and focus on weight instead of coolest coins. I've already got so much numisnigger sruff. I don't wanna be a consoooooomer.
>>51279561
I found an old check book once in the woods as a kid and me and my cousin thought we were rich because we found checks. I've hidden weird shit in the woods for people to find.
Never found a grave or a wig that looked like one though lol.
>>51280488
I thought it was Venezuela but wasn't sure.

>>51280423
Yeah a Falcon is a lame choice but at LEAST it was sculpted well enough. Kansas having a fucking Buffalo is even worse especially since the buffalo looks absolutely terrible. Rest assured my rankings will properly shit on both coins!

>>51282354
>use caution like when drinking and driving
it's strange, because that's exactly how I lost all my precious metals. Never boat and drink while all your precious metals are with you at the same time!

>>51282031
based and thanks again!

Might end up just buying a replica 20 franc piece, can only find the Swiss versions which aren't as sexy.

>>51281957
Nice that your wife likes darkness.

>>51283143
>Nice that your wife likes darkness.
She generally has very good taste, we actually kind of hit it off because we realized we liked a lot of the same stuff.

>>51277734
People care about doing drugs when they are illegal because they’re drugs yknow it’s a real barter good, gold isn’t a barter good, gold is money and it’s useless for anything else aside computer chips which nobody will be making at home.
>>51277854
Every country has a central bank and a Freemasons lodge, fucking ghandi was a Freemason. I think also that other countries wanting gold still is going to be an excuse to make it illegal and gold could become a highly protected way to trade wealth between nations. If fiat dollars collapse and CBDCs replace it are countries just going to keep trading in inherently worthless currency like nothing has changed other than our savings accounts being robbed? I don’t think so, I think digital currencies will serve a purpose and that purpose is not letting us slaves accumulate wealth. For your gold and silver dreams to be accomplished you are basically already expecting a massive recession/depression on the horizon right? Which means massive unemployment and if this has all been planned then that means it will be the perfect time to implement UBI. Then government programs find work for everyone and if you don’t comply you lose your government assistance. Combine that with goods as a service and just like that you got everybody working for a fixed income and unable to accumulate wealth. Really the point I want to get across to you guys is that if you believe in the jewish conspiracy then what is the point of investing in anything but ammo and off the grid self sufficience? I don’t think there is one, but I hope I’m wrong.

>>51278441
Does precious metals really not require anything special to function as money? I think for the common people trading illicit money will be juice not worth the squeeze. The absolute best scenario I see for this is you end up selling it to one of our elite overlords for a freezer full of steaks, and you’d have to be careful about it not to make yourself a target since you essentially won’t be a citizen.
>>51278532
That’s all done with cash though. Realistically think about how you are going to accomplish selling your things in a black market where cash doesn’t exist, think about the extreme level of care that would have to go into an underground exchange of precious metals as money. I don’t want to demoralize you guys, I just want to be sure this works out otherwise I am putting all my money into living off the grid.

The point of money is accumulation, what’s the point of accumulating illegal money? Crime doesn’t pay, as the saying goes.

Anons, help a retard out. How is large bars of gold or silver less liquid compared to smaller 1oz coins? How hard is it to make change? When you give $100 bill, you get change right? Why will you not get change when you give a 1000oz bar? You can even pay 1oz to get change for 1000oz bar.

>>51277443
>Let’s say hypothetically it becomes illegal to own gold and silver. How do you trade your gold on the black market, can you paint me a picture/give me a diagram of what that’s going to be like?
>(Like a greentext of you making a purchase and bringing it home)

>Be me
>Desperate for a generator
>none available because of shitty government interferance
>hear that a chinese man can get generators
>we can't use the government CBDC because that's illegal
>he decides me will accept gold because he can still trade this into his currency using a laundry service
>I take gold to him
>he gives me generators
the fact that you think this is somehow unrealistic makes me think you are either A) very young or B) have never been to a third world country or C) are bullshitting and trying to shit up a thread.

>>51277525
$500 USD + shipping
It was going to be 2k each but a anon said he would only charge $500

>>51283324
I’m working from the assumption that CBDCs will not be like fiat in that you cannot accumulate it. Money laundering is done with cash, not centralized digital currencies that are flawlessly tracked. Explain to me how you launder into a centralized digital currency. I guess I am trying to shit up a thread in the sense that I think you all are wrong about how this works out, I hope I’m the one who is wrong though.

Speaking of shitting things up, what are the chances that I could attend https://wealthion.com/conference and ask my questions to the speakers like a massive unholy autist?

>>51277443
The reason a government would make gold/silver illegal is because the BANKING system is bankrupt. Hopefully you understand the anatomy of a bank run. When banks issued too much paper currency back in the day(before the Fed), people would rush to their banks with their dollars and demand their gold. If the bank handed over all of their gold, yet were still left with IOUs (bad bank notes) then you were fucked. The bank went under and you lost a portion of your money. Make sense?

Banking today is more complicated, but it is effectively the same. Although the new system allows banks to AVOID bankruns when they overextend. And they do this by spreading the losses out over EVERYONE. Banks only have to hand over cash to the depositors instead of a limited, finite resource such as gold coinage.
So instead of some people getting ALL of their money, and some getting NONE, the system effectively procures you your cash, but they effectively siphon out your PURCHASING POWER. What this means is, you effectively work and save and you put 10 sheep worth of wealth(capital) into the bank for your retirement. But when you come to retire and you want your 10 sheep, the CASH they give you is only worth 5 sheep! The banks never have a bank run since the Fed has been created, because they are able to conceal their leveraged money lending grift/scheme.
The Fed allows banks to "get away" (aka, crime) with giving out far more loans backed by bogus collateral. And you, and everyone who keeps money in a bank, or wallstreet etc, is dangerously exposed to losses.
Real capital, that you need to live and retire, largely needs to be outside of the system while it is SATURATED with debt/leverage.
A RECONCILIATION is due. Everyone in the west is sitting at the poker table and they ALL lay down their hands. 4x Aces all around. Everyone is a winner! Yet... the pot is only so big. Even though you "won", pension, retired, etc. The pot is simply not big enough.

>>51275685
Can I talk about shitty unprecious metals (whatever this is made of) for a moment?
Some kid brought home about 50 pounds of medals for some random event from 2019, what the fuck am I going to do with this? Would any company take it for at least a penny to melt it down?

>>51283418
>Explain to me how you launder into a centralized digital currency.
I think you're making a flawed assumption that every country on earth will use the same CBDC. North Korea isn't gonna be using the international monetary system, plenty of other countries will be outside that influence as well. People are still gonna find new ways to transport value after cash disappears.

>>51283462
The pot is not big enough meaning there are literally not enough goods, services, workers etc to honor your claims.

Banks are a fraudulent enterprise as they currently exist. You go to work every day at the risk of the healthcare industry making you go BANKRUPT. You make 401k contributions for the HOPE of a retirement.

We need to undertand that all of this money we spend is literally our hard work being GIVEN to the government/wallstreet to play with.

Without our repeated, consensual participation, Wallstreet shrivels up and dies. Our 401ks are not enough either. Wallstreet finds opportunities to buy up cheap assets and asset-strip them, thereby destroying jobs, pensions, taxes, towns, communities. Paul Singer is a good example (see the Tucker Cuckerson video on him)

>>51283260
Remember the elite want us to own nothing, therefore we will own silver, and gold. Also the last names Goldberg, and Silverstein make me very bullish for precious metals, that is all.

>>51283462
>these guys are cheating that means they’ll lose
Again this is assuming incompetence and not malevolence. Who’s to say they won’t keep cheating? I am of the opinion that they are in the works of solidifying our slave status and short of an actual popular revolt they can do this by eliminating cash and making gold illegal to own by turning it into the money of governments and their S class citizens. I think you maybe have a chance at trading your well hidden gold and silver to a jew for goods, but how will you even know what your metals are worth if that information is restricted from you? And even if you don’t get ripped they will still be the winners accumulating wealth while you got some temporary goods.

And I don’t think a popular revolt is possible for Americans and westerners in general. We hate each other. All the stupid leftists will be glad to support the government over being a racist sexist homophobe.
>inb4 what if I’m not a racist sexist homophobe
As if that matters

>>51283521
With every country controlled by rothschild or freemasons or both I think every country’s CBDC will essentially be the same thing. Maybe there will be north koreas not on board, and if they don’t play ball with the cabal they will get very rich for it, and then the cabal will declare war, and you will be sent to fight.

>>51283570
And they can realistically take your gold and the ability for you to use it

>>51283521
There is no guarantee that people will even want CBDCs. The banking system is undercapitalized and the entire system will implode without repeated injections of LIQUIDITY.
The banks can offer some sort of alternative for people to escape the dollar while it implodes to service the debt. But this will be about as effective as being on a desert island and deciding that changing your "money" from bottle caps to sea-shells makes more sense.
It just doesn't fucking matter. I GUARANTEE YOU, with 100% certainty, that any amount of backing of some alternative currency, will require the entire cooperation of the government, banks, hedge funds (blackrock), just to keep it capitalized. They will literally pretend for years that what you are buying into is properly capitalized before they rugpull you.

The ONLY source of capital you want to be holding in this time of crisis is PMs in your own hands. The size of the problem is larger than America, larger than the Fed, and larger than the WORLD. There is no hope of paying off debts twice the size of the U.S. GDP. It won't happen, and your currency holdings prove this in the years to come.

>>51283657
>There is no guarantee that people will even want CBDCs
Supermarkets like Wallmart will guarantee that. The destruction of small business also has to happen so people don't have a choice.

>>51283626
If you sincerely believe that every country in the world will be so tightly controlled that you cannot possibly have a black market of any kind, then you might as well give up now and enjoy your slavery. I don't personally believe that is possible. I have worked in the illegal sector before, there will always be people willing to work outside the officially approved guidelines for profit, the harsher the guidelines, the bigger the payday. There is a reason the cartels still use Silver and Gold.
>And they can realistically take your gold and the ability for you to use it
If they are going to kill me for it, so be it, I'm gonna work outside the system as long as I possibly can, gold and silver seem to be my best bet for the time being. If someone finds a significantly better system to work as a transfer of value in the black market economy, I will gladly use it. I think you want to be afraid, and that is your right, but for me and my family, we are gonna prepare and do the best we can under any circumstances.

>>51283578
Not even the U.S. government and Fed can hide the losses from us forever. The big event we all see coming is merely thus: The actualization of a lack of resources. Once we all write off debts, stop government spending, and see what industry/business is still standing. THAT will be the future of the economy.
The government can't hide that. The trick is to own PMs so once the dust settles you are free to BUY back into the economic system. Gold is tier-1 banking capital. and because of this it will command purchasing power on the open market.

>>51283657
They can starve people and make CBDC purchased bugmeal the only way to eat. So many people will lose their jobs in this collapse. Then the governments provide these CBCDs for free to relieve the starving masses. Then the governments come out with mandatory work programs, and if you don’t comply you lose your UBI. This state capitalism is their vehicle to communism.

Why won’t compliance be high, they got at least half the world to take the vaxx.

>>51283687
Walmart procures their imports via a subsidized trade deficit amounting to $700BN per anum.
America can't even pay for it's goods as it is. Having some magical digital currency changes NOTHING.
If you want purchasing power, gold is the place to be on the international stage. When you get your CBDCs you will be a pauper status if you have nothing else.
I am getting tired, but please be very aware of the profundity that America runs a $700BN TRADE DEFICIT. A deficit paid for with DEBT.
CBDCs won't be buying shit on the global stage. People will use CBDCs to buy bread, but they'll be sucking cock for the gold flakes to heat their homes.
Don't believe me? Well there is a $46TN pile of bonds sitting out there that NO ONE has been able to rationalize away other than my own thesis that dollars will be the harbinger of actualizing losses/scarcity.

>>51283278
Because a shop is much more likely to have $1,000-$5,000 cash on hand than they are $20,000-$100,000. Pretty simple reasoning.

>>51283787
You can take change in metal right? Just bypass fiat.

If I get the guilded 404 I'm going to never post it here, and immediately make a reddit account and post it there.
I'm sorry anons, I'm a troll first and foremost, I recommend anyone else do the same.

>>51283758
This entire situation is actually word-for-word written in the "protocols". They will use liberalism to destroy the nation, crash the economy, and have the plebs "eating from our hands" as saviors.
A book written 117 years is not going to be 100% accurate but it is pretty fucking close.
It actually gives me the thought, maybe this multi generational plan was put into action long before they realized they could not complete it. Now they are desperately needing a way to pass the buck because the entire internet-hive mind has honed in on what is unfolding.

>>51283810
Well sure but even in metal if I want to buy a chicken you have for some silver it'd be a lot easier to get the "change" for a silver eagle than it would a 1-kilo bar. Unless I wanted to buy 100 chickens, which seems impracticle.

>>51283475
Depends on what the metal is and where you live (what services are provided).
If it's Fe or Al, we can put it in the recycle bin.
We happen to live a short ways from a recycling transfer station, and they'll pay for Al cans - anything else (window frames, rods, plates...) is 'dirty Al' and they'll buy that for less. They'll buy Cu and its alloys, Sn, and they'll take Fe but not buy it.
So.. What's the metal?

>>51283785
I'm not on about that, I'm on about people accepting CBDC. The system will be implemented bit by bit, no different to how we already to card transactions. The supermarkets will be the first to do it, then the government will outlaw fiat money when CBDC system is running properly. Providing the majority of people accept the system, like 90% of them, the banksters/totalitarians/communists have won. They won't peruse the remaining 10% because they're not a threat to the system.

>>51283810
These exchanges are consecutive buy/sell orders that are transacted in dollars. For reporting purposes, every small business does this.

>>51283843
>what is copper
>what are scales
C'mon anon our ancestors have already been through this

>>51283693
I’m not giving up… I’m just trying to make the best move.
>If they are going to kill me for it, so be it
I’m glad you feel this way as well, but you as a family man are more at risk of giving up than me. What is your wife going to say about living free or dying? What are your kids going to say? If they want to live and go along with the system are you not going to follow? And I just don’t think we will be dying for anything but ourselves, I don’t think there’s a chance at a popular revolt. They have so many under their control already, and we are so demoralized by these communist humiliation tactics we aren’t even allowed to tell people what we know for they will reject us or we will get banned and deplatformed. I’m going full conspiracy tard here saying that all countries will comply to CBDCs since rothschild owned banks or Freemason politicians and bank functionaries control every country of note. Sure a north korea country could go against it (even though North Korea is communist you dummy) and get very wealthy in the process of running the black market but they would undoubtedly face our countrys’ military wrath. The US military alone dwarfs all other militaries in assets.
>>51283716
They can stop you by making you a lower class of citizen. I do think the future is gold, just not for us.

>>51283832
They control the internet. We can’t even wake people up on fucking 4chan without being banned, I am heading for another ban from /biz/ for this I’m sure of it. This is how commie humiliation works too, we can’t tell people in real life even without facing rejection.

>>51283869
Our ancestors didn’t have to fight against world wide centralization

>>51283853
I don't think you understand what is happening.

There is no accounting trick or "switcheroo" to get around the fact that assets that total TWICE the U.S. GDP need to be written off as losses.
The bond market is the ONLY thing holding it all together, and it is hemorrhaging 15% per year due to inflation. Do you understand that this economy is bleeding to death?
Will people jump to the CDBC in a desperate attempt to stay alive? Sure! But that doesn't stop a $46TN bond market from imploding and wiping out literal everything.
Will CBDCs pay for your retirement, your pension, your life insurance, your health insurance? Will your house lose all its value? Will your stocks sell off 90%? How can CBDCs stop any of this? They can't.
That's right. 95% of the middle class will return to peasant status. The banks and wallstreet used lawyer-finance capitalism is transfer 99% of all wealth into their hands using exponential exponents.

>>51283901
>I don’t think there’s a chance at a popular revolt.
there isn't
>I’m going full conspiracy tard here saying that all countries will comply to CBDCs since rothschild owned banks or Freemason politicians and bank functionaries control every country of note
this literally makes no difference, every country on earth will still have a black market, doesn't matter what kind of government is in power or who controls it.
>Sure a north korea country could go against it (even though North Korea is communist you dummy)
North Korea is the second largest manufacturer of Methamphetamine in the world, guess how they get paid? Gold
>The US military alone dwarfs all other militaries in assets.
The US is just gonna nuke every country that won't use it's funny money? You're living in a fantasy.
>The US military alone dwarfs all other militaries in assets.
America could barely hold up against Afghanis in sandals and you think they can have protracted wars with every country on earth that won't use their currency for daily transactions?
Gold is the future, use it or don't, we don't really care what you do, but your defeatism is sort of sad, join us in holding an asset that has had some form of value in every civilized society dating back probably 6,000 years.

>>51283901
>They can stop you by making you a lower class of citizen. I do think the future is gold, just not for us.
They can only tyrannize you. Collective, authoritarian action of the people is the ONLY thing the elite fear because they are parasites. The power lies with the people.
>>51283901
>They control the internet. We can’t even wake people up on fucking 4chan without being banned, I am heading for another ban from /biz/ for this I’m sure of it. This is how commie humiliation works too, we can’t tell people in real life even without facing rejection.
Wrong. Go onto any message board literally anywhere and people are dogwhislting. The mainstream media has been dead since 2016. A new paradigm is upon on us, financially, politically, economically, and spiritually.
Even the elite are afraid, did you see the "dark brandon" speech. The federal govenment is literally openly posturing hostility towards the masses. Joe Biden, a democrat, is literally trying to rehabilitate REPUBLICANS!!!! Literally, wtf why?? Who in the fuck even does this if not a system in turmoil?

>>51276512
1990 gold Krug

>>51276512
I just really want some NK gold or silver.
>>51284056
>1990 gold Krug
damn man, talk about holding a piece of history.

>>51283979
It's not going to matter when the systems we already have are entirely faith based. Germany introduced the Rentenmark to combat hyperinflation, another currency that was based on productive land. In today's world all that will happen when the dollar/pound/euro fiat collapses is that they will base the new CBDC on productive land. The transition will be rough, but the people will put up with it because all they will want to do is get back to a normal life. I hope I'm wrong about all of this.

>>51277443
>Let’s say hypothetically it becomes illegal to own gold and silver. How do you trade your gold on the black market, can you paint me a picture/give me a diagram of what that’s going to be like? (Like a greentext of you making a purchase and bringing it home)
If someone has an illegal good like a gun or a bunch of steak you just give them an ounce or so of silver or a couple af grams of gold and they give you the stuff. They then use that metal themselves to buy other illegal goods for their own consumption, its a hidden economy, aka a "black market".
>Hard mode: in addition to gold and silver being made illegal, we have also converted to a cashless society with centralized digital currencies and all money transactions are tracked.
Impossible to buy illegal guns or food because the currency is digital and transactions can be recorded and tracked? You have just made an even better case for why people will still want gold and silver. There will always be something people want to buy but arent allowed to have, right now they buy that stuff in cash but once cash is gone they will have to buy it with gold, silver, weed, ect.
>but its illegal
No one cares now or will care in the future. Just look at the market for illicit drugs that currently exists.

>>51284046
I don’t see an afraid government. I see progressing humiliation. Do you think the government in 1984 terrorized the people out of fear of their control slipping or was it part of their system of control? We will be emasculated, we will fear each other as much as them, I mean we literally already do…

>>51284116
>Rentenmark
If the US wanted to save their international position this is honestly not a bad idea, even Hitler's idea of a currency backed by labor value is still better than what we currently have. Any currency that is tied to a finite good is obviously gonna be better than a currency tied to nothing. Still gonna end up with gold and silver eventually though, nothing is new under the sun.

>>51283988
I don’t believe we can count on incompetence of the system, we can only resist, and people won’t resist.

This is why I have asked you to explain how you think your black market transactions will happen, I personally don’t see how this works out in anyway but you trading your gold for goods from a sovereign citizen, and I see that being risky for you since it makes you a target for your rightless self to be abused by their rightful self, and I think it’s possible you won’t even know what the trade value of your gold is to them, and you getting ripped.

>>51284046
>A new paradigm is upon on us, financially, politically, economically, and spiritually.

This. I just hope the shift is in favor of the plebs. It's really hard to tell the trajectory it's going in, the only solace I get is that the mainstream are in panic mode like they're trying to accelerate their agenda before they lose significant power.

>>51284171
>I personally don’t see how this works out in anyway but you trading your gold for goods from a sovereign citizen
have you ever bought drugs before? I have a gun my nigga. lmao.
>I think it’s possible you won’t even know what the trade value of your gold is to them, and you getting ripped.
it's true, no one is gonna know what the value of gold and silver are, but the cartels will quickly figure out what things are worth, free markets move quickly to determine value.
I think you're way over thinking this thing.

>>51284116
The systems we have are not entirely "faith based", they are propped up by debt. If you want to understand this, cash and your credit card SPEND the exact same, don't they? However, a cash transaction carries no risk, however purchases on credit require that payment be made at a future date.
This effectively means that countless individuals, businesses, corporations, governments all have shortfalls in revenue BECAUSE this leverage exists and can not be paid back. Don't believe me? Riddle me this: What happens to housing if you can not get a mortgage and ALL buys/sells happen on a cash market? What happens to the price of housing?
Are you aware that you subtract all debt from the U.S. GDP we have not had real economic growth since 1983? Are you aware that a mere $400BN contraction in consumer credit in 2008 knocked off $7TN from the housing market?

Do you fucking get it? There is a MULTIPLIER effect built into the fuckng valuations on all of these fake asset prices. It's all bullshit.

Debt, aka leverage, does not just come from nowhere. For every credit-dollar spent into the economy, someone elses balance sheet expanded. The only problem is all of this balance-sheet expansion is not built on real capital and real sales, but LEVERAGE. Once we are saturated and it can never be paid back then the losses start actualizing.
People will not just be picking up and carrying on with their lives because there is literally ZERO capital left for some stupid "service" economy to function. The manufacturing was shipped overseas, the imported goods will cost a lot higher, there won't be endless amount of big-box consumables. Say good bye to a lot of jobs, exploding unemployment, government budgets cratering to provide relief.
You never thought one fucking second on any of this, did you? There is no "next bubble" to reinflate shit either.
What comes next is econ-101: Manufacturing, production, farming, mining, energy and SAVING.

>>51284132
Well, I guess you’ve stumped me anon, but I still don’t know how viable crime will be in the new world and I don’t want to have business dealings with guys who skin people alive personally. Ruthless criminal cartels are hardly a better overlord, criminals aren’t resistance fighters they are monsters. With freedom eliminated for the vast majority a war on crime is much more feasible. They can offer sovereign status to anyone they truly cannot control, induct them into the system. There’s so many variables to consider. I think this bid for control has merit.

>>51284171
post ballsack shill

>>51284136
The government and the elite desperately want people to depoliticize and return to stupid, impotent politics.
Just go to any message board, literally anywhere and look at the discontent. People are mad, and the glowies literally have plugged the hole in the dam by gaslighting conversations into being about vaxxer conspiracies. This level of retard is necessary because they need to fill the vacuum from a certain group of people talking about another group of people. If people can just talk openly and plainly then shit wouldn't have gotten this bad.

>>51280197
>do you have a NAFTA set?
>what about tubes from the 5 eyes?
Please explain anon. I have no idea what you're referring to.

>>51284286
The gaslighting is why I think we have no hope. The gaslighting would be worthless if we weren’t humiliated, but we are and so we can’t fight it. And if you have some sort of explosive argument against the gaslighting you will have tripped the wires of neoliberalism and get banned for being a racist sexist homophobe even from here. And if you can avoid all that they will get you for not caring about climate change and the future of the earth. We are already enslaved… now is the time to get off the grid in my opinion. We may have less than a year left, we definitely have less than two. I wish you all the best.

>>51284150
Silver and Gold that represent crystallized labor is the best way to go. After all, what is currency but ideally a mean of labor exchange?
I mean, think about this: Isn't it inherently weird that if you get a bunch of money, you can just completely forego all work? And why is? Because you can just use your money to buy other people's work. But what would happen if EVERYBODY had "enough money"? Well then no labor would get done, and society would completely die. Ultimately, the money isn't what is valuable, it's the labor bought with it. Gold and Silver are just the best because they have always bought labor.

>>51284313
Exactly. PM's represent a perfect value of exchange. There is a reason God Almighty invented them. Everything else is an imitation.

>>51284247
>What comes next is econ-101: Manufacturing, production, farming, mining, energy and SAVING.

And another fiat system. I like how you completely ignore my point that the introduction of CBDC will be done the same as the Rentenmark. Then decades down the line the banking rules will change again. We're just repeating what happened a hundred years ago in Germany.

>>51284309
Demoralization shill. Go neck yourself.
Live off of the grid is for faggot pussies.
Take a permanent marker into any public restroom and write your fellow countrymen a little wake-up call. It's just that fucking simple.
No more running.
We live in the cusp of a renaissance. The internet has allowed the plebs to piece together our history in a more coherent way than has ever been possible. Not just bu intellectuals but by the masses. I am a literal fucking peasant and I am talking to you about how the banks are fucking us in the asshole.
Get the fuck out of here you fucking pussy. Go buy a Guuchi handbag to carry you balls around in you poofter, demoralization glow nigger

Beware of female stackers.

>>51275685
Queen of England dead next 3 months check and screen cap this

>>51284337
I just want to live free, if there is a resistance you can count on me to be there with my ar-15 but in lieu of no resistance I’ll be making my own plans, same thing y’all are doing with gold really.

>>51284361
any female who is interested in saving money or financial literacy is probably a man desu. women don't care about this stuff, they want their man to deal with it.

>>51284333
And I explained to you the writing off of hundreds of trillions of dollars worth of fake value is going to make it a moot point, right?
Pretty sure I explain that a couple times. Reread my posts, there is a lot to be learned here.
Imagine how insane this is! The banking system collapses and all of the fake "value" in people's homes evaporate and now millions of people de-facto lose their retirement, the central bank balance sheet that owns trillions of MBS just implodes... but... ALAS! Here comes the magic CBDC!
Everything is cool now!
All of that bad shit that happened because our economy is stupid and resources are misallocated and the 1% own all of the capital and all profits are siphoned out of the productive economy... that's all ok now.
Some super smart genius created a CBDC and now we can all go and buy it and for some reason it will be a magical 2012 BTC moment where everyone just becomes a millionaire for some reason. Even thought we're all unemployed and gas is $20 a gallon, it's all good now. the CBDC is here. Saudi Arabians are so fucking stupid that once they got sick of USD, they just turned around bought some CBDC. They just can't get enough of the stuff! All of these countries that procure us seemingly endless amounts of production and resources that allowed us to run $700BN trade deficits for years, well that's all good. We can all just keep doing this all like nothing is wrong.
Saudi Arabia is literally built for CBDC.

>>51284363
The queen dying in current year has been a meme for a decade now, and while I do think she will snuff it this year, I'm prepared for 2023 to be another year where people say she will die this time.

>>51284375
They won't leave you alone.

>>51284388
When are you going to address my point that I think CBDC will be introduced the same way the Rentenmark was introduced a hundred years ago in Germany?

>>51284375
>I just want to live free
The closet thing to absolute freedom you will ever get is being financially responsible and getting to a point where you don't have to work anymore and can rely on your assets to work for you. I can tell your young, but your dreams of resisting the government just aren't gonna work out the way you think they are. Take your time, find a skill, and get to work creating a life for yourself.

>>51284424

>>51284451
based sneed poster

>>51284451
I see, you have no answer.

>>51284295
This is what Im talking about. Not sure what other big org's you could aim for collections. Like, im not even sure all the G7 countries produce brilliant uncirculated rounds

>>51284463
There is nothing to answer? In no way can the addition of a new currency negate any previous losses accrued to an overleveraged economy.
Sure, it can happen. Won't change anything though. You still have to actualize the losses somehow.

>>51284522
What the fuck are you even trying to argue here. Have you completely forgotten what my point was even about. Please read this again. >>51284116

>Germany introduced the Rentenmark to combat hyperinflation, another currency that was based on productive land. In today's world all that will happen when the dollar/pound/euro fiat collapses is that they will base the new CBDC on productive land. The transition will be rough, but the people will put up with it because all they will want to do is get back to a normal life.

>>51284171
A black market, several in fact, already exist.
Why are you having such a hard time wrapping your head around this? Are you legitimately retarded, or just a shill trying to make PMs seem like a worthless asset to those new to this general?

/pmg/ explain to me why owning stocks is fake, and are oil stock producers fake also?

>>51283920
what do you think the Tower of Babel story is about?

>>51285301
>explain to me why owning stocks is fake
what do you mean by this? how could owning stocks be "fake"?

>>51285567
people have said owning stocks are fake cause its a paper claim and digital which makes it fake.

Guys within the next two months the entire system is going to come undine. The Fed tried saving the system like they would have in the 1980's and it failed. The government is scrambling now too and will initiate a war. You need to put every extra amount of cash to buy silver and gold. Obviously have ammunition to defend it but we are looking at total failure. Societ, civilization, social, economic, housing, debt crash. We are already dead meat. Get as much PM, water and food as possible. Anti diarrheal medicine, stuff for fevers, fungus, bacteria. Get ready for the worst. We might go nuclear if they feel threatened enough. Lead parchment, iodine. Cement walls 3 inches thick and air ventilation. I wish I could tell you all who I am and what my friends just told me but this is going to be the worst disaster in human history. We very well might go extinct.

Look for the telltale signs these next few days. They are anticipating... it. And will push for things that seem outlandish now more than ever.

>>51285636
I mean, if they're saying that stocks can lose 100% of their value sure, but stocks are just a contract, that's all. Make sure you're money is diversified, stocks, bonds, crypto, and of course metals. Owning shares or an outright portion of a business is obviously a good strategy to build wealth.

>>51284136
I fear no man, I do not fear death. Gold, and silver will make me a lord over the plebs, and the elite can do nothing to stop my ascent.

>>51285644
>We very well might go extinct.
My body is ready.

Mail call

>Guy who is selling is land to buy pms. I had some silver but I was never a silver maniac. What made me rethink this was the whole great reset plan and the fact people seem to be ignoring what is coming down the pipe.
What made me think about PMs was simple. If CDBCs come out how will cartels and companies operate. Remember in a cdbc system the banks knows and controls your wallet. I’m pretty sure cartels and companies would not want this.

This means a lot of companies will put a micro star and buy btc and many other will begin buying pm related assets.

Cartels on the other hand will be buying and utilizing physical gold and silver

>>51286086
Yes sir, today I got a mint roll of 2011 koalas

>>51286111
Got some kilos today sirs.

>>51284136
The goal here isn't humiliation, it's conflict. They want the populations in the west to be very angry at their governments, and direct all their anger towards them. The banksters are using them as scapegoats so that the blame for the inevitable financial crisis doesn't get pinned onto the banking cartel itself, because that would surely destroy it. So the western puppet leaders are roleplaying as the bad guys, and there will be some hand-picked good guys that show up at some point to offer the already planned solutions to their manufactured problems once things become really miserable (like maybe for example this winter, when people are freezing, or next year when they're starving).

>>51287353
>>51284136
What is the Jew's end game?

>>51287662
Extremely docile slave race. Really think about it. Imagine staying in power and being able to slowly trickle in technology that can benefit your friends and family, but not the masses.

>>51287756
How did that work out for them in the past? Truly disgusting people.

Finally got my first gold coin bros. It's tiny but I love it. Probably going to get a Sovereign next.

>>51280488
checked and good get for this post.
i want this set so bad it hurts.

speaking of hurt; check your comfort medicines, anons.
for the first time in my life i have food poisoning and didn't have any pepto around me. i have a stash of antibiotics but nothing to stop the diarrhea which i find comical since that was a serious killer of people back in the day.

>>51285644
Sounds like a magnificent time to debtmaxx hard AF

>>51287904
It's not going to work out for them. Awareness of the jew is growing faster on a daily basis. Just go look at any comment section literally anywhere and it's full of dogwhistles. People don't focus in on jews, particularly in 2022 with anything nice to say.
Unfortunately for them, their multigenerational plans were really kicking off long before the internet became an integral part of people's lives. They are free to look back and see events and history in a new light, and are better able to connect the dots in ways never before possible for the masses. The reason there is so much disinfo and Alex Jones and all sorts of nonsesne is literally because one of the most obvious contemporary events worthy of a conspiracy is the fact that Israel did 9/11 with the help in order to kick off a 20 year/$5TN war in the middle east. It's about as obvious to say that 2+2 = 4, the sky is blue. They also slaughtered some million or so people with opioids and were laughing about it. So yea, not a good time to be a part of the tribe right now.

>>51287904
It was just usary for thousands of years. They would use it, make loans and bankrupt kingdoms through various schemes. Once they get ino power they practice nepotism to elevate their Jewish family and friends while blacklisting the native population. They do this in slave nations too. The 1950's and 60's have the listing of Jewish immigrants to the US completely hidden if not destroyed outright. They didn't want people to know that we were the next Germany, their bext scheme. It is as >>51288100 says. They pushed the envelope too far, too soon. When people begin to starve and look for answers, Jews will be found out (again).

>>51284079
Best I can do is Daesh silver

>>51275784
>>51276138
>>51276464
The mint makes way too many commemorative coins now, they definitely should have stopped after the state and territorial quarters and presidential dollars

>>51280047
Newfag here what's this yotsuba thing?

>>51288644
>Daesh silver

I've always thought those were cool as hell, have you tried getting your hands on a gold dinar, or seen any real ones floating around?

>>51289047
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/yotsuba-coin#/updates/all

>>51289188
When do you get 3d renderings?

>>51289188
Checked heil Hitler I guess. Too bad it's over. Are there any other similar campaigns happening ?

>shipping label created, USPS awaiting item
HOLOCOINANOOOOOOOOOOOON

>>51283192
Don't flatter yourself, son. You aren't demoralizing anyone. Stackers know history and history shows that people ALWAYS implement money in the face of money shortage or restriction and that silver and gold have been the world's favorite money for three thousand years.

>>51281959
Beautiful.

Increasingly, I feel as though I'm ready for the inevitable economic upheaval. I don't even mean that in the sense that I'm ready for my stack to buy me a mansion and a harem. I feel like I don't even care if my metals end up being worthless - I just want to see the end of this period of decadence and comfort that's permittes the normalization of such outrageous ideologies. I want to see our "elected" officials finally run out of lies. I want to see if I'm as well-prepared as I think I am.

I wonder if such feelings were common during comparable points in history. Did Romans in the fifth century privately yearn for the Visigoth invasion as a punishment for their incompetent leaders? Did citizens of early Weimar laugh at the absurd house of cards forming around them?

>>51288016
Congratulations! It's a nice feeling, eh? And a quarter ounce is nothing to scoff at.

>>51290016
Agreed - I have to say, I can't really pick a top one. I could say there are half a dozen that are my favorites. Pictured is one of them.

>>51288016
Nice one lad

>>51289836
Patience, lad - the Finish Line is in sight.
Yesterday was a holiday. The USPS wouldn't have been open. I'll bet our notices get updated today.

>>51288016
Looking good sirs.

I refuse to accept there is any real pressure on the supply of silver when dumb shit like this is being made.

This thread is a good example of why /pmg/ should split into two different generals on two different boards.
>/pmg/ on /biz/ will remain as precious metals general to discuss precious metals
>/scg/ on /x/ will be created as schizo collapse general for schizos to discuss the collapse that they just know is imminent

>>51290647
There are tons of novelty coins to soak up people's money on overpriced silver. I don't think these products are anywhere close to as prevalent as they became in the last few years. Also, silver premiums are being manipulated higher due to the artificial bottleneck of ASEs. If there was no pressure then the U.S. mint would be operating as normal.

What percentage of your portfolio do you guys allocate to PMs??

Gold and silver still dropping even as society is on the brink of collapse. What now?

>>51290879
I was in mostly crypto about 80% crpyto and 20% PMs, but around the top I used almost all my crpyto to buy PMs. So now I am at 15% crpyto, 10% cash and 75% PMs. I will be accumulating crypto soon, it makes my metals stack grow quickly.

>>51290945
my dyslexia is showing

virtue bros, the 4th design just dropped. We back in booba territory.

Still no standard 1oz charity.

>>51290647
You're right. Silver doesn't even appear on the USGS 'Critical Minerals' list.

(Let the autistic screeching begin...)

>>51291147
Thanks - I'm also keen on keeping up with this series.

>>51282841
>numismatic dank memes lmao
Definitely one of the most beautiful coins of all time. Surprisingly affordable too, so don't be cheap and make sure to get an UNC.

Woohoooooo! Mail just arrived. Was able to meet the carrier at the mailbox for a signature because I took the day off due to cold and rain. Not the normal carrier. Young, cute, beautiful blue eyes and HUGE cans. God I hope she's replaced the other old bitch of a carrier we have, and just isn't doing the route because of the holiday.

Anyway, I'll post pics of my shinies in a bit. My "creepy" stack guardian will be omitted from the pics, though she will be observing me opening my package.

>>51282841
>>51291288
You guys think masculine/androgynous women are attractive? That's heckin based!

>>51291650
Based. I have two packages arriving today. Ounce of platinum and like 9 rounds of silver or w/e the fuck I bought. Sucks because I think the rain will slow things up

>>51275685
Is this legit? Asking because its $100 dollars cheaper than JM or APMEX.

>>51291806
here you go

>>51275685
Is this legit? Asking because its $100 cheaper than JM and APMEX.

>>51291806
Androgyny is attractive, yes. Hypermasculinity and hyperfemininity are rather modern concepts. Not to say they don't have their attractive qualities, but there is a natural basis for people to find androgyny hot and not really caring for anything past the basic sexual dimorphism of the human species

Hehehehe.

>>51291936
>he doesn't know
>he also has autistic facial blindness

>>51292218
That's interesting, anon. I quite like the Marianne profile. It's neat comparing it to the Swiss Miss who is much more feminine.

>>51291206
> he doesn't stack ytterbium

>>51292668
Fuck off, noob

>>51291813
>I think the rain will slow things up
The rain or the holiday definitely slowed things up. Mail usually arrives at 10:30 AM, but showed up at noon. I just happened to be outside having a smoke when the mail truck pulled up. Anyway, my first and probably only ASE was in the package. A 2013 random year.

>>51292286
What is the perverse obsession with forcing people to spin a wheel for their basic necessities?

>>51292757
I... I kneel...

>>51292004
it's even cheaper on monument metals, fren

>>51292845
Also got some animals and sheiiiiit.

>>51276908
welp. that's a pretty pagan thing to want with 'bible images on the coins'

>>51292940
...and some squares.

>>51293010
Different angle.

>>51292903
Kek...
(though I'll concede one ounce is hardly a "stack")

>>51292940
NICE shot! Great arrangement and background.

>>51293091
Thanks. Been wanting to get some of these island coins for a while. Needed to get my order up to $1000 to avoid paying MA tax, so I finally pulled the trigger on them.

>>51293168
>$1000 to avoid paying MA tax
Oof! My sympathies. Get a metals buddy in RI or NH and buy through him (or her).
I like almost all the EC8 series. Now I'm at wondering if Is should "collect 'em all" or just stop with what I have and actually like.

>>51275685
Went detecting and got nothing... again...

>>51284379
Some women have just man brains. It's how you get people like Joan of Arc. I mean she did say she was pregnant and men don't be getting pregnant.
I'd still be extremely reluctant to ever trust a woman born after 1960 with even an ounce of my silver.

>>51277149
Theres gotta be a coin that throws shade at jannies id buy 10. Id use one for dipping in my solid turds and then post it to /pol/ every 3 days

So, is silver being 18 bucks or so meant to dissuade the WSSfaggots into selling their shit?
It is way too strange to see such a low price on both gold and silver, even more so platinum right now, that there is no way to explain it other than the elites knowing some secret precious metal or so.

>>51293706
Sux, I spent my budget for the month.

>>51293450
>"collect 'em all"
Um, yes. If not, those spaces are going to trigger MY 'tism.

>>51289120
They exist, but I've only encountered one person with gold examples. They weren't for sale.

>>51293706
They need to hit the plebs with another round of inflation. If PMs show real returns and the gold bugs start making some sense, then a mass exodus could kick off. The banks need to put this off for as long as possible. They make plenty of money on the paper trades, and it is widely suspected that big whales have a hand in emptying the COMEX while they can.
I don't think we will see PM prices gradually increase to $30 then $40 then $50 etc. I think it will happen quite suddenly that existing stock dries up and it is repriced. This will not happen UNTIL the debt market begins to topple and the banks decide that they cannot prop it up any longer.

ERM, have any of you high iq individuals debating about global politics considered that in fact it may be incompetent malevolence at work?

>>51290728
>/scg/ on /x/ will be created as schizo collapse general for schizos to discuss the collapse that they just know is imminent
SETF would fill that role perfectly, too bad it's always deleted.
You can't have a containment thread if it's always deleted...

>>51293836

>>51293835
Alright, I said that because I bought 3 ASEs tubes at 24 bucks/oz and I'm still waiting for the ratio to close so I can trade it for a gold canadian maple. Nonetheless it is quite interesting that the ASEs are 32 bucks each despite the low as fuck paper price on silver.

>>51293849
If it's not /pol/ or /x/, then /b/ would be appropriate.

superstition

>>51291147
Well. At least you can actually see a nip poking through.
I think my next purchase from this series however will be the victory through harmony 5 ounce coin. The biggest of boobas. It'll be like pic rel but real

>>51293835
can inflation wait until 2023 I'm poor and am trying my best to stack as much as possible

>>51291147
>just dropped.

>>51275685
Goddam those ABC bars are amazing

>>51291650
Hey, thanks for that :)
>>51293055
These are fucking amazing

Gold noob here, I'm looking to put some fiat into gold. I found a dealership online and from the outside it looks legit (www.thesilvermountain dot nl if you want to check). Question I have is, what do I buy, little 'bars' or coins? And why, is there a difference or is there a reason to hold one over the other? I like the little bars because if shit really hits the fan that seems easier to barter with. I'm laughing as I type this but yeah. Thanks.

>>51294519
Buy a coin. Bars are easier to fake, therefore less trustworthy in a SHTF situation. Also, shop around for the best price.

>Compare Spot Price Websites
https://findbullionprices.com/ (US)
https://eu.compare.pm (EU)
https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle/ (DE/EU)

Next Ones Up.

>>51294611
>>51294611
>>51294611

>>51293835
>it is widely suspected that big whales have a hand in emptying the COMEX while they can.

I'm of the opinion that the whales are the biggest concern of the banks because they are effectively small economies themselves, meaning that other businesses thrive around them without the middle man banksters.

>>51294457
Jokes on you, I’m no where near that slim and my head phones are sound magic ec11s.

>>51278272
where get chunky penguin from

>>51281317
only reason i have it , is because i caught it on release near tail end of the series. i think i paid 145 for it on MM.

could never justify the prices post mintage, i think cheapest i see is 185 on apmex for random atb

>>51283278
>can you mow my lawn, ill give you 2 ozt of silver
>okay
>heres 1000 ozt comex bar, can i get 998 1 ozt rounds back?

nobody will do this for you. huge ass bars are typically reserved for huge purchases or banks or exchanges to trade back and forth to each other

>>51293450
love the sea plane
love the rum runner
llve the monserat harp

>>51295278
>huge ass bars are typically reserved for huge purchases or banks or exchanges
Welcome, newfren.
You just have to look in the right places.

>>51295470
go ahead and buy if you like, but theyre not for me, what would you do with such a thing?

>>51295470
on second thought, please someone buy this, because once you buy it, spot price will fall precipitously

>>51280088
Post some EBAY invoices and btfo him

>>51295446
Totally agree. I'd add the octopus and the Oriole. They really did a nice series. Can't wait for 2023.

>>51295488
>what would you do with such a thing?
Kek... I have absolutely no idea. You can't even brag about it irl, 'cause someone would talk to a bad actor.