/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>51247516
female "Education"

>>51247516
>Why does the free market always converge nations towards 0 birth rate?
Yes, because this was caused by the free market.

>>51247516
people can't afford to start families because central banks are constantly debasing the money

>>51247516
don't all old asian ladies want grandkids? What going on over in korea?

they have the smallest penis by country

>>51247516
>>51247532
>>51247565
How do we apply this phenomenon to India and Africa?

>>51247516
good, less of these repulsive chinks is always a good thing

>>51247624
we're superior to them
t. korean

>>51247583
India birthrates have fallen below replacement. Africa's too will soon

>>51247516
our modern society is unnatural
nature always wins

in equilibrium, production rises to the level where revenue is even with cost

>>51247565
This.

Asians for some reason would rather look at loli shit and anime/manga then have sex, what the fuck is wrong with asians??

>>51247747

>>51247516
Because making babies isn't not short term profitable.
The markets surreptitiously outsource birthing to hive states.

>>51247759
>smells
>is dirty
that's the appeal

>>51247765
(immigration is just outsourcing birthing)
Profit is the main metric, analyze the world through the lenses of a minmaxxer without any morals.

I blame the fact that Korean women would rather fantasize about sleeping with white men than marry a Korean man.

>>51247630
no you are not, chinkoid, you are just as dumb, uncreative and parasitic
only good thing of your insect race are the sex slaves you produce for me (your women)

>>51247516
Feminism and Socialism cause declining birth rates, OP. Both have been on the rise for the last century.
Let's actually try having a free market before we bash the concept.

>>51247802
Japan and Korea should take in Ukrainian refugees

One child policy?
free market??

>>51247583
The industrial revolution (and its consequences).

>>51247759
Ya i get it ive seen the images the memes the everything, i just will never fully understand as i never lived in japan or korea. There's something fundamentally wrong with many asian countries. Atleast in the west people are just not having kids because they're on birth control and shit, they're still fucking a ton, just choosing not to pop babies out.

>>51247516
The market isn't free for one. And two I don't think that has to do with the free market specifically.

>>51247583
mandatory vaccines

>>51247847
male virginity in the west is increasing . specifically america

>>51247759
>when you take "imagine the smell" meme too literally

>>51247847
idk why you are so hung up on the details when the end result is the same. human society quite simply is blocked from going past a certain point in "advancement". its the natural way you can call it the great filter

>>51247887
It's sad cause it just breeds a bunch of disenfranchised men who feel abandoned and let down by society.
>>51247905
I'm not hung up on anything, we're in a thread discussing low fertility rates, so i'm discussing it.

Look at the fertility rate of socialist economies and ask yourself that again. If you want people to make babies you need to give them hope in the future and the conditions where it's actually possible to have a family.

>>51247583
It's unironically urbanisation and the associated cost of space. There are huge divides in the birth rate across Sub-Saharan African states from areas approaching European-tier in the cities to Nigeria being rapidly Islamised by baby-making in the north.

India is already undergoing a population collapse that is exacerbated by the gender divide and women approaching the level of health and accessibility where westerners start to notice them.

>>51247565
If anything inflation correlates with high-birth rates.

>>51247747
80 billion hour work weeks and a sterilised culture propped up by debt that itself props up a gerontocracy.

>>51247787
If this was remotely true you wouldn't have white incels on 4chan and Asian men would just start fucking black women or competing with dogs for whites.

The truth is women will only pick chads in an environment of strangers, whites have an advantage due to soft-power but being an Asian woman on a dating app is a cheat code that means they can skim the 1% of every race.

>>51248035
Whitey incels on 4chan don't go out of their houses in the suburbs. They can easily move to a big city and get a Korean woman or move to Korea and get a Korean woman.

>>51248084
Bullshit. I have yellow-fever in a major international city and it's still harder than an Asian's math homework. You underestimate what being the most desirable race on dating apps facilitates and the kinds of standards Asian women carry in finding a guy that keeps fit, does creative and makes a fuck-ton of money.

>>51247516
Quick question, is there any data comparing a birthrate of a nation as a capitalist nation with the same nation as a communist nation? Specifically Capitalist TO communist, and not the other way around.

>>51247573
effeminate boybands

>>51248117
So even you kneel to asian women

>>51247516
>le free market capitalism boogey man
Wow you are totally not a normalfaggot!
Meanwhile you have fucking 50%+ taxes, 20% real inflation, and 1839810981098 regulations you absolute gorilla turbo-nigger.

It panders to the most consumerist people that are women and children, the feminist society creates a kind of man to livet in a world that doesnt exist, but worry not because they also can sell dakimakuras for all the broken men.

>>51247939
>If anything inflation correlates with high-birth rates.
No it does not

>>51247516
>free market
>south Korea
Chaebol owns everything and 50 millions slaves rent and pay for air and water and everything by hard work and military service.
While the young women are mostly in the nastiest feminist cult in the world and whore around worse than the most degen western Euro whores.

Female education + birth control is the number one correlation to birth rates under replacement level

The more you empower females, the more civilization dies

Yes there are many other factors, but that's the main one

Urbanization, a lack of lebensraum, a hopeless govt run by Jews, etc all take the backseat

>>51247516
capitalism is anti-human

Effective ad campaign in western media to demonize men, fathers, and the family unit. They tested it on niggers in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, and rolled it out on everyone in the 2000s. Any movie, commercial, song, or ad after the year 2000 has a divorced family, kids that hate the dad, women bossing around men, men acting incompetently or otherwise effeminate, or men being bad fathers that everyone is better off without.

And then on the other side, you have social media teach female kids that all men are rapists and creeps, and teaching men that all women are gold digger worthless whores that can’t stop sucking nigger dicks. Music encourages this further.

It’s an ad campaign for population reduction. South Korea is the #1 consumer of western media, so go figure.

But, this is a total war on the family, so you also have social media and news convincing women they must kill their unborn children, work until their 30s (so they aren’t fertile anymore), and pushing women and minorities in the workplace instead of merit so that men are not as successful financially and can’t take care of a family. You have banking and financial institutions (controlled by jews) that are artificially pumping the prices of homes so people have a harder time starting families, and giving government gibs to single moms to give them incentives to break up the families that already exist.

There’s so much more going on, but it’s all in order to destroy the family unit, undermine men and leaders, and reduce population.

>>51247516
because of modern day comfort our kids can be kids for longer and kids don't have kids
by the time they start maturing up it's already to late
the only thing that makes a person grow up is pain but we shield our kids from that, we say it's okay to be play video games 24/7, why grow up from that stage?

>>51247583
Africa we just need to stop sending aid and their population will reduce naturally. Crazy they used to only be 250 million around the 40s and now are in course for 4 billion by 2100. I guess this is what we get with Jews in control, they love the breed their nigger pets

>>51248265
This is the best book I have ever read in my life, by the way. Short, and to the point. It condenses a lot of philosophy in an easy to understand way, and is incredibly persuasive. Brilliant.

>>51248413
What’s the end goal?

>>51248221
I found a Nigerian with gigantic breasts and bunda instead. The side benefit is she's much more sexual than Asian women.

>>51248313
Yes it does. QED post-war history.

>>51248380
You can't get a girl pregnant if you never have sex.

>>51248437
World wide Brazil/saudi arabia mix with a caste of eternal masters in untouchable detached technologically separated world and brown masses slaving away to maintain it.

>>51247516
Feminism

>>51248469
Brown masses can't into civilization

>>51248413
>Koreans pushing minorities in the work place
Your entire wall of text is eurocentric. They're asian you idiot

>>51248437
Destabilization for easier control, and population reduction. Some will say one world government, which is true, but you have to explain every step of the way otherwise people will think you’re just crazy. They want to destabilize and create social chaos (also the obsession with third world immigrants) so that there is no means to rise up as a collective unit to fight back, while also depopulating the world because they think all the resources will be used up by us like we’re locusts or roaches.

A lot of people think South Korea is almost exactly like Japan because they are both somewhat civilized Asians.

In reality South Korea is ten times worse than the west when it comes to woke stuff, materalism and consumerism. Take the worst American consoomer roastie you have ever met and chances are she will be similar to the average South Korean. Their entire culture revolves around it

>>51248512
Civilization was created to keep us down

OH NOES EVERYTHING WILL BE CHEAPER AND HOUSING WILL BE CHEAPER THIS IS THE END FOR SOUTH KOREA
IF A COUNTRY ISNT HAVE CONSTANT GROWTH 24/7 ITS DOOM TO FAIL!

>>51248517
South Korea is a social media controlled nation. 95% of them have internet, and they have some of the best internet coverage in the world.

Also, according to https://www.statista.com/statistics/1298209/south-korea-average-daily-media-consumption-by-type/
People in South Korea between the ages of 16 and 65 spends on average 5 and a half hours on the internet a day. That’s an incredible amount of western brainwashing.

>>51248512
They cant but the numbers of the 1% is not really 1% of the world population, theres like less than a million of them.
Simialr to how house of Saud has like 10K or whatever people and they are all inbread related royalty while the other millions of arabs are the brown subjugated mass.
Flaw in the plan is obvious to anyone with a brain, but we are talking about people high on their own farts and hubris that are falling for their own bullshit.

Similar to how German faggots believed arab doctors of engineering and rocket surgeons will come to Germany but they got a million of the worst scum of the middle east.

>>51248561
okay but what about the elderly and national debt

>>51248561
>with a smaller population comes more tightly knit communities
never heard of Italy in the dark ages?

>>51248591
>elderly
they can just die
nobody should be forced or coerced to take care of people they don't give a fuck about.

I will personally impregnate all the bug women.

>>51247905

Yes it’s very natural and not at all caused by a certain group of people who have nightmares about humanity being free happy and self reliant.

The ((great filter))

>>51248639
Holy COOM

>>51247665
this, at current trajectories

>>51247787
>>51248084
>>51248117
>>51248639

is it just lack of children or lack of sex? can i (white guy) move my remote work to south korea for a few months and bang all these sweeties? what's the plan here? tinder?

>>51248789
they don't have sex drives and act like kids

>>51248789
sex isn't real, I've seen no evidence of its existence in my 30 years in this planet

>>51248789
just be careful, korean women can be psycho. means the sex is good, but at a cost. also 1/4 of korean women are straight up literal whores bc prostitution is so embedded into the culture

>>51248789
Making babies is not an issue. You can have one male impregnate 1000 females and your birthrates will go through the roof. Issue is with raising babies and providing adequate living conditions + healthcare for them and mothers. It costs money, and that is something countries failed to address - costs of living, costs of raising children. A few years agothere was an article published where estimated cost of raising one child in UK was approximately 200k £ from pregnancy to 18 years. You can argue that its just a 10k a year, but good luck with that when you have to pay rent and make savings for mortgage - you barely have enough for yourself. And salaries are stagnating because god forbid corporations and companies pay wages adjusted to inflation rate. And governments are not up for addressing it because profit > humanity (and they are on the payroll of corporations and "free" market).

Basically, answer is simple - negative socio-economic conditions.

>>51248530

They are all batshit insane alcoholic nihilists resting on the shoulders of their hard working parents.

>>51248869
>>51248807
i dated a south korean chick in high school. she seemed alright but i guess she was raised here. then again... yeah, she was kind of childish. she moved back after graduation. maybe i should hit her up.

>>51248904
no, the low birth rate precedes the recent economic downturn
in fact it seems that prosperity creates a low birth environment

>>51247516
Korea is on track to beating Japan in the race to transform its entire area into a gigantic automated manufacturing plant defended by automated weapons to enforce payment for goods.

Basically every complex society with an exploitative "fuck the next generation I'll be dead by then" mindset is either on track to becoming an unmanned vending machine that can prevent shoplifting, or becomes a rotting shell of itself with its inhabitants replaced by fat gay niggers with massive debt.

>>51248380
The concept of "consent" was a mistake. They used to allow a woman to choose one man. Then she would consent publicly that she will allow this one man to do what he wants in exchange for his prote tion and resources. It was a one-time thing. Now you need to get "consent" every time you have sex and of course women choose not to.

>>51247516
>free [market]
>[any asian] country
nigger they are jabbed and 10x boosted what the fuck are you talking about

>>51247516
keynsianism caused shrinkflation

>>51247516
parasitic profitmaxxing requires women be brought into the workforce to decrease wages. there is a direct inverse relationship between female participation in the workforce and birthrate.

>>51247516
Lowered birthrate comes from difficulty accessing resources. This can happen either from overpopulation or a punishing economic system.

>>51248831
Lurk more, fag

>>51248948
Are you speaking about Koreans or art college students? Kek

>>51248904
The people having the most kids in America are usually the poorest people, so that’s been debunked in at least this country.

Just to preface my post: i'm high IQ, white, an Ivy league Econ grad, currently work in Econ research

In basic economic theory one of the main assumptions is that more freedom, choice, and money will make society happier. Things like social mobility and women entering the workforce were supposed to make societies happier but actually with new behavioral economic theories some economists have started to realize that more choice and freedom is actually making people unhappier. People were much happier when there was less social mobility, when there was less choice, and people lived much simpler lives

>>51250615
Stopped reading at Econ grad

>>51247547
Of course it is. Animals don't breed in unfavorable conditions. The market is responsible for the quality of life and capitalism concentrates wealth into the top 1% thus everyone else suffers and birth rates implode.

>>51247573
Mandatory military service = mandatory vax = children of men

>Singapore
>Israeli military (not orthodox satan worshipers)
>usa military vs civilians
>Taiwan

>>51250473

>>51247665
Africa's won't. They still get gibs that encourage child birth.

>>51250813
Warrior nation with mandatory military service like neo nazis wanted

having kids sucks dumb incel tradcucks can eat a fat dick

>>51250783
It was stupid, you saved yourself some grief.

>>51247776
No

>>51247516
Every single first world country has low birth rates including the conservative democracy that is Japan. Face the fact that people don't gave kids when times are good

>>51250804
>Animals don't breed in unfavorable conditions.
Lol, wat. It's the exact opposite. Animals breed MORE in unfavorable conditions. When most of your offspring will die due to bad living conditions or constant threats from predators, the survival of your species becomes a numbers game.

>>51247516
no time for kids when you are forced to race to the bottom for your career

>>51247516
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z760XNy4VM

High correlation between intelligence and fertility rates. All civilized societies have low birthrates. It's natural. Only third world shitholes and subhumans breed out of control and destroy their environments. This is why the jews push immigration so hard.

>>51250523
You're really saying that the people having kids are the financially irresponsible - it's more pointing at the issue rather than disproving it. While people aren't entirely rational they do have an awfully good appreciation of when they're in a position to have children.

>>51251753

>>51251790
You're not very intelligent if your line ends.

>>51252353
you're not playing the same game anon