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>>51245571
>Forearm tattoos

>>51245594
l don’t have any tattoos myself, but man are you guys a bunch of faggots

Anon you're 32 years old.
By now you should've realized that it doesn't depend on the situational circumstances but that you simply end up at the bottom of every social situation no matter what that situation is.
You were at the bottom back in high school, you're at the bottom of your workplace and same would happen at community college. Nothing magically changes just because you're in a different situation, you again show (or lack) the same qualities which automatically make other people reject you entirely from their life.

You can start community college if you really want to do so, but remember that it's more about you changing yourself inside and out first than merely changing your surroundings, because that way you'll get the same (non) result. Yes, it's pretty damn hard to change your entire brain at 32 years of age, but it's possible. It only depends on how much you yourself genuinely want to change.

>>51245629
you have shitty taste in women, doesn't make us chads fags.

>>51245652
>shitty taste

No, that would imply that I prefer women with tattoos, which I don’t. I literally just don’t give a fuck if they’re there or not. In fact I didn’t even notice the ones in OP

You’re a retarded faggot and probably still a virgin

>tattoos
i'll pass thanks

>>51245670
Why are you mad?

>>51245571
At 32, no. You know it's over. I'm 30 and I know it's over. Easier to just accept that then to tear my hair out trying to fix it. You can volunteer or something to gain social confidence, but you'll have no normie reference points or experiences to draw from. I was crippled and housebound as a kid with no friends pre smartphones being mainstream, and I came out into a different culture.

>>51245571
>non white

>>51245670
Why are u so mad?

>>51245670
>I didn’t even notice
Yeah, npcs lack observational awareness since it is not required for basic functionality.

>>51245571
I went back to college for CS at 35. It's okay to go to college in your 30s but only if you're not a complete poorfag imo. I'm not good-looking, always a bit of shut in, but twenty-something girls look at me as some kind of an authority figure. I dress alright, drive a normal car and use my macbook during lectures. There are few other men in their 30s, even 40, but they carry themselves like losers honestly.

>>51245594
incel

>>51245750
>non white

>>51245908
people who wear tats are troubled people , especially women . kys nub

>>51245639
I wasn't healthy in my 20s, that changed when I turned 29.

So it's more of as if time stopped.

>>51245721
I had a physiological blockage that is completely gone. Hard to explain. I mean if I work now I'm afraid that looks wise I'll look too old at 45 to get in.

>>51245908
It's completely reasonable to reject people based on tattoos if they are not specifically a type that liked them intrinsically (before it became a trend).

>>51245639
I was picked almost first for volleyball and floor hockey in HS, if that counts.

>>51245639
>By now you should've realized that it doesn't depend on the situational circumstances but that you simply end up at the bottom of every social situation no matter what that situation is.
this doesnt necessarily need to be the case at all.
im a massive loner now in my 30s and havent had a relationship or any real friends since my mid 20s but during my teenage years and early 20s i was easily the most popular person among my groups to the point people would tell me how weird it was for them being anywhere without me. almost every night of the week there was something going on somewhere i was being invited too and now im years past the point where ill get a single text message every few months.
even now in my 30s im popular in work, im tall and ok looking, in shape and i can talk to anyone and still lead conversations in any size group of people. im just a massive turbo autist who lives a double life wheret on my own time i spend it 100% alone, i dont even speak to my family outside of a couple of phonecalls a year to catch up.
i had a massive mental breakdown at 27 and walked away from everything, moved to a new city and started my new loner life, not sure what advice i can possibly give to anyone on how to avoid this as for me it feels like the most natural thing in the world, though im very obviously not happy.

also its worth considering that none of this is actually a modern phenomenon, we're just more aware of our situations given our access to other peoples existences in impossibly minute details via the internet, the reality is that every generation going back forever had a huge % of men (and women) who never married, started families, had friends or did anything with their lives.
look at the post war west, it was the most optimistic time for the working man in all of human history, where literally any pleb employee could easily support a family and a very comfortable life on any income, a situation so new to society that it spawned the baby boomers.
even under those circumstances, there was still up to 20% of people who never found anyone, 30% who never had kids, all of our modern nursing homes this past 20+ years have been full of these people withering away alone with just their room mate next door for company. outside of all the social and economic changes obviously changing circumstances, maybe its just the case that for this generation, its OP (or my) turn to be that loner.

>>51245908
tits or gtfo

To quote Houellebecq

>It's been hopeless for a long time, from the very beginning. You will never represent, Raphaël, a young girl's erotic dream. You have to resign yourself to the inevitable; such things are not for you. It's already too late, in any case. The sexual failure you've known since your adolescence, Raphaël, the frustration that has followed you since the age of thirteen, will leave their indelible mark. Even supposing that you might have women in the future -- which in all frankness I doubt -- this will not be enough; nothing will ever be enough. You will always be an orphan to those adolescent loves you never knew.

>>51245571
If you look younger pussy will practically throw itself at you. If you’re not in shape, balding, or are getting wrinkles, girls will try to file charges against you for even trying to talk to them.

>>51245571
If you're still looking to make friends in your 30s, you have a big mental trouble

>>51245571
at your age i've been at this task for almost a year and it's HARD work, even though i'm good looking.
when exchanging contact info, most people our age or younger lead with instagram. if you aren't on instagram or have a lame profile, you're already cast as a weirdo.
it's a grind to figure out appropriate social escalation. expect to alienate people just by being forward, and also expect to alienate people by being quiet but otherwise engaged during small coffee or lunch dates.
most people will not understand what you say unless you affect appropriate emotional range, show it on your face, and give a good amount of eye contact. it's weird but they, especially women, won't parse your words if they can't read your face or look in your eyes.
with women, you'll find that those our age and younger are uninteresting. they have few skills, they don't read, they aren't passionate about ideas etc. this is not a bad thing, but as an autist you will default to discussions about those topics and be frustrated when they go nowhere. talking with women is about everything except the words. you have to find a way to put your frontal lobe on autopilot and pay attention to what your body feels like when you're talking to a girl, looking at her, and noticing how your two bodies relate. after a whole life of suppressing and ignoring your limbic system, you'll notice very little, but eventually you'll pick up on feelings of relaxation, mild excitement, and maybe even playfulness, and it's up to you to figure out how to amplify those feelings in yourself.
i honestly don't know if it's worth it. i've been at it a year and have only got laid once, which was boring. i don't make lasting friendships nor do i crave for them. i'd rather be fishing or making art alone most of the time, but i've promised myself that i will find a way to be a normal human bean so keep trying.
the lookism people have no clue btw

>>51245721

I was gonna say... at 32 if you're like (((that))) you may as well start writing the manifesto.

>>51247163
>>51245571
Sorry to break it down to you but if at 30 you're having difficulty with women, specially young ones (17-25) you're either real ugly or have no confidence/any personality at all.

>>51245721

Church and a trip to asia. It's an easy fix, anon

>>51245652
>you have shitty taste in women, doesn't make us chads fags

>>51247319
i get attention but don't know how to escalate and it always falls flat

>>51247320
asia for easy gf?

what is church for?

>>51247391
>don't know how to escalate
It should happen naturally imo.
It's real easy to tell when a woman is giving you clues.

Are you TRYING to force something to happen? Women can tell you're thirsty

>>51245571
No, trying to socialize with a bunch of 18 year Olds is probably not going to help.

>>51245571
I went back to university at 30 for my PhD and managed to lay at least a couple of 18 year olds
Your 30s are like your 20s except you have money now

>>51247011
>not in shape, balding, or are getting wrinkles
I met two of the love of my life types girls when I was at my most out of shape, didn't work out because I goofed, but still. If she likes you, being somewhat out of shape is just a problem for her to solve.

Balding, get on finasteride and min, stat. Works for me except the stupid crown lacks fullness.

Wrinkles, none yet at 38 but hopefully its not too bad when it starts.

My point is that some fat (fatter than me), balding asshole just got some 10/10 tail last night because he reminds her of her father, so its not impossible.

>>51245670

My issue has been WFH has made the process of meeting people difficult. Dating apps are awful although I get plenty of likes just fat goblins. I think the hardest thing though is making friends and keeping them. Current relationships are a massive hassle, even a simple outing for bar night is a stress. Maybe I'm realizing I don't care about these people as much as I thought I did...

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>>51247600
how do we fix it as biz wfh/neets?

>>51247600
Another thing I've noticed it's pretty much the same everywhere, even normies have this feeling of dread and loneliness but never admit it. No one does. I think its a mix of people being so ashamed and embarrassed to say "Hey I want a friend or I want a romantic relationship" that they kinda shut down any real talk on the topic. If you bring up the topic you're looked at like a complete weirdo but its a very real problem that I'm not so sure has a solution nowadays.

>>51247415
no, i basically only flirt with women who approach me or give me obvious glances just to avoid being unwelcome. the issue is that i hold myself back from when e.g. they put their hand on my chest, or fluff their hair up and bat their eyes while talking to me, or get in my space to have me grab their hand or whatever, and then the vibe dies and we part ways.

>>51247600
I was a WFH online school NEET and went months with only saying hello and bye to the cashier and the gym front desk guy


Waging nowadays is cruel. Working full time+commuting+doing chores+cooking/takeout - there is very few time and everyone you meet has friends&family&spouses they do shit with

You can make friends in school or atleast do activities with others in your freetime. Or you live in a Trailer at your parents, working part time
But other than that…

>>51247674
I've thought about this a ton, especially once I became a khv Wizard a few months back and realized that even with hobbies, lifting and a decent wagie job I was still deeply unhappy.

I think the core problem is the lack of community, a sense of belonging. OP's goal of going back to school is well meaning but if you can't hold those people under a common goal they just move on with their lives.

>>51247794
:( just want friends

>>51247790
Yeah going WFH has its pros and cons. I'd never go back to the office full time but I could do hybrid if it was available.

If anons are interested read on the concept of the 3rd place. Another anon had mentioned this ages ago and found the idea interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_place

>>51247833
i'll be your fren fren

>>51247858
The short summary of it is

Oldenburg calls one's "first place" the home and those that one lives with. The "second place" is the workplace—where people may actually spend most of their time. Third places, then, are "anchors" of community life and facilitate and foster broader, more creative interaction.[1] In other words, "your third place is where you relax in public, where you encounter familiar faces and make new acquaintances."

So finding that third place could be what helps most anons out but its easier said than done

>>51246507
>Like OP
Now that I'm healthy I'm trying to fix it.


College seems to be the way.

>>51247833
I've thought about this too often also. My current group is at separate points in their lives with marriage and kids, etc while others are pre-occupied with other things.

At 30 KHV I've wondered if wifemaxxing is the better focus than getting a roster of people you occasionally hang out with but dating in modern times is a nightmare and if you're not a gigachad the chances of success are almost non-existent.

>>51247858
>>51247888
Yeah the third place makes a lot of sense. But what is it?

>>51247927
I think going to college to try various activities is the main thing.

>>51247927
yeah finding gf as wfh/neet is just as impossible as an average male

>>51246441
for you anon cheers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E9ydw_aDMg

>>51247926
The third place from my understanding can be any place people get together that isn't work or home.
So this can be your local dive bar, a coffee shop or card shop.

The hardest thing is showing up and showing up consistently to become a familiar face. This is what trips most people up and I'm no exception.

>>51247959
But is there any place other than college to best break that barrier?

>>51247983
I meant yeah in the modern world.
I guess cafes.

>>51246657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zYL-XylC74

>>51247948
Yeah its a solid plan, I've thought about it as well but have a hard time justifying the cost and time expense. Working full time, even WFH just drains you completely so finding a good place to meet people is difficult.

>>51247959
Modern dating is absolute shit and a losing game for the average male and I mean average.

Women standards are so unrealistic that unless you're a 6ft giga chad making 6 figs you won't make it.

That's been my experience with online dating not sure if face to face is much better.