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>>51120725
ATH signal.

>>51120817
u think its only down from here?

>>51120725
What’s with aquariums and pedos bros. I feel bad for fishies stuck in glass cases their whole lives. It sounds suffocating to be stuck in some glass box your whole life.

>>51120876
Sell now. Not even fucking with you. See pic related? There's absolutely no reason for it to stop going down to the bone. Maybe not to zero, but why wait a year or two to get back to where we are now?
Take your cash and start swing trading $BITI against $BITO or something. Then when BTC finally bottoms for real, you will have enough cash to buy a lot more.
Hodling is for suckers.

>>51120725
Now you can buy some coke and lsd off the darknet. Just make sure to buy domestic.
Support your local dark net drug dealer.

>>51121108
Fucking meme lines touching 1 point on top and bottom. TA barley works at the best of times (it probably doesn't) but this is up there with some of the most dogshit bullshit I've seen since pink lines guy from 2021 summer.

>>51120725
If you want to invest in POW hard money LTC is probably a better bet than BTC at these prices. Easy 10x for LTC from here. BTC will probably only 10x from here under near perfect conditions. What the fuck do I know though? I just seen the US print trillions in 2 years and announced over the past few weeks that they will print trillions more and the dollar is still somehow the best play. We are in fucking clownworld and having a scarce asset like BTC, LTC, XMR shit even stuff like ADA, EGLD, ETH (post merge) will probably pay big time in the coming years. Fiat is on its last legs. US will be the last to fall but with EURO collapsing the GBP soon to follow there isn't too much time left.

>>51121108
idk how to swing trade on this app im on (app is called blockchain). id just like to ask, how sure are you itll keep dropping ?

>>51120725
Well, since you are intelligent to know that Bitcoin is the only crypto worth buying, you are going to make it.

>>51121345
thanks fren i really hope so, 500 is 2 weeks of work for me

>>51120725
You bought the wrong bitcoin. The real bitcoin is BSV. You need to only buy that one

>>51121317
Dude, nobody knows if it's going down further and if it does, just buy more.

>>51120908
You should see the betas Walmart sells

Just learn how to self custody, run a Bitcoin and lightning node while you stack.
Has anyone looked into actually trying to run an Eth node? It's fucking impossible.

>>51121317
There's no reason for it to go up anytime soon. Think about it. You just bought BTC in August. September is always the worst month for BTC. You're guaranteed to start taking major losses within the next few weeks.
If you absolutely have to buy BTC and want to diamond hand it all the way to the true bottom, at least save up some cash and wait until January. Maybe there'll be a trend reversal by then.

>>51120817
what just because he saved up enough and waited for 20k? ngmi
>>51120725
welcome aboard we're going to 13k. Try to buy a small amount relative to your income wvery week from now, on the same day of the week.

>>51121444
i believe in the sanctity of trips so im def selling rn

>>51121444
It's 7 out of 9 total data points with like an average of like a 3% loss for September. Hardly fucking massive losses. Also it's only 9 data points.

>>51121488
But even then, why buy when you know it's going down and there's absolutely no indication that it's going back into a long term uptrend?
Why tell him it's a good idea to buy now when anyone can plainly see that it hasn't bottomed?

>>51121317
hermano, they're baiting you into. You got 500 dollars worth of bitcoin, it's much too little for a swing trade which is something you do with about 5-10% of your $500. Keep it, don't sell and like I said, try to buy a small amount every week to spread out your average buy price. Do this intil the next bull market which is expected to be 2023-2024 somewhere, nobody knows. And read around the subject.

>>51121500
Wtf is all this bullshit. I could argue that it has CLEARLY bottomed and that EVERYONE can tell it has and why are you trying to make him lose money by buying back in at this point? See what I did there, it's called talking shit (like you just did). Stop pulling shit out of your ass, you do not have a single fucking iota of an idea where BTC is going over the next month, year etc. If US inflation comes in lower again (preliminary data tells us that it is) and rates are 50 basis points you'll get fucking rekt as it spikes back up to 25k like last time.

>>51120876
it's obviously dumping to at least 18k or 19k at this point. whales are cashing out a lil bit at a time so they don't get hacked or lose it all in one withdrawal. 20k isn't bad, but if i were you and you only have $500 to play with, should've just bought $250 worth at 20k then bought another $250 worth at 19k. basically, don't ever go all in at once, spread your dip buys out

>>51121509
im gonna watch closely and buy when it truly bottoms, dude above in the thread got trips and im not messing with kek unironically
im planning on dropping 1k around the bottom. predicting 16k

>>51121500
Cause maybe he gets lucky and we have a relief run and he turns his 500 into 550, takes them out and then waits for lower price
Or maybe it never goes down again, it's a clown market remember?
He will hate you for making him sell his 500 dollars

Also it's not much money, and even if diamond hand holding is a meme or not the best way to make the most profit, in longer time frames it just works. Why would he sell now and loose 50 bucks

>>51121536
thank you this is definitely good advice as i just lost like 22$ of my 500$ selling rn, i hope to buy more when it seriously drops soon.

>>51121543
You're obviously new to this board. At every single large red day people are calling doom and it's over. BTC was going to 5k in July according to this board back in June and it was going to 250k back in November last year. When buy you should ask yourself:
>Is it cheap compared to the average of the past year?
If yes you buy a bit.
If no you hold off.
You will never ever time the bottom, you will never time the top.

>>51121557
i sold, i hope it drops lower so i can buy and get more btc than i started with. first day with real money, -$22 isnt so bad

>>51121583
you fucking idiot anyway you will learn the hard way I guess.

>>51121578
im a lurker, i had no stake in the past so i wasnt on here daily. now i plan to be on daily getting info absorbing. maybe i have baby hands, but i feel like the bottom is coming soon and ill buy back

There's your dip anon
Buy back

>>51120725
Bad idea. Btc is a dinosaur on its last legs. EU will ban it and the USA will too for being too dirty for the climate.

>>51121611
just broke 19k

I'm relatively new too anon, but Im 22 and I didn't buy BTC, I got a gaming PC in March 2021 and started mining ETH and getting paid directly in BTC since then. I hodled and didn't do any swing trading. I have the equivalent to 1k at today's price
It could be 3k at all time high price

I think that we will bounce back to 23-24k, one or two more times before finally falling to 15-16k, staying there for a bit, then regaining 30k, staying there for a bit, then new bull run starts

>>51121533
I'm not the one who is basing his opinions on pure sentiment. I don't even know or care where the bottom really is. I am most interested in when I see it trending up, long-term. And we have not reached that point.
This is what I don't get about hodlers. If you guys really think that BTC will eventually be worth a zillion USD, why do you care so much about buying the bottom? It's only a few thousand dollars difference. Why the hurry to shovel money into a bonfire?

>>51121778
I don't care about these small movements in price. My time horizon is 5 years+. Op, don't trade, just stack your sats and go do something else with your time instead of obsessing over the price movement.

Op, this board is mostly full of shitcoin gamblers and jeets. Occasionally there are some big brain posters but that's rare. Just stack your sats and take it off the exchange and in cold storage.

>>51120725
Is nobody going to talk about how cool that fish tank is?

>>51120725
kiddo, you were born screwed, that your goal for 18 is to want to enter this capitalist hell is sad, not even useful things like dextool will protect you from Bobo's future fuck

>>51120725
Saylor, this is absolutely pathetic. You're not going to make anyone here pump your bags with posts like these.

>>51120725
Ignore all other posts, OP. You did well. Bitcoin will be a 10 milliion dollar asset in the 2040's. Just continue to buy as much bitcoin as you can and don't worry about the price because you're young and can afford to stack and hold. Seriously, don't stop.

>>51124541
If that ever happens, the world will go the way of Zimbabwe.
A loaf of bread will be $100,000,000,000,000.

>>51121444
Normally I'd disagree with you, but they're literally dismantling the economy. There's no telling how bad things will get, other than "much worse."

>>51121286
>We are in fucking clownworld and having a scarce asset like BTC, LTC, XMR shit even stuff like ADA, EGLD, ETH (post merge) will probably pay big time in the coming years
whoever invest in them are likely to still have their money in the next 10years, especially Egld that houses Ride, a gaming project that promises to transform travel time with VR headsets

>>51122983
Kill yourself commie

>>51120725
Pajeer, this is absolutely pathetic. You're not going to make anyone here pump your bags with posts like these. I'm only DCA-ing into my bag ALBT and COTI.

>>51121108
People like you give TA a bad reputation. That’s absolutely not TA.

>>51120725
You’re about to suffer.

>>51121108
Seconded. I've never seen a downtrend like this end well. I highly recommend getting out now, even if it's at a loss, because that is looking pretty bleak.

>>51121345
There are other assets worth buying like privacy alts chad. They are sure to get big with the coming regulations.

>>51126643
Is Coti still existing? Their node staking doesn't look active.
I see Albt got a lot on their sleeves especially with the launch of Fundrs mainnet.

>>51120725
Lmao idiot. You got a lot to learn about how the market behaves before you arbitrarily drop money at 20.4k

Honest to God, you kids can't accept that something like investing or trading requires years of learning and patience. You will learn the hard way. My best advice is that you don't spend all of your money.

>>51121509
>>51121509
Is everyone here retarded? Do you fucking idiots even know what swing trading is? I can swing trade with a $1 in my account.

Ffs you retards really need to give it up.

>>51120725
Well, it's not bad to buy BTC but desu, but you can get like 5x max if it pumps to 100K, but with Alts like QANX and MOVR 100x Looks visible

>>51120725
Congrats, Hold and wait for the bull run

>>51121363
You are rich folk

>>51120725
A fool and his money are soon departed.

>>51126643
>>51128149
actual pajeet alert kys faggots

>>51129216
Quantum-resistant blockchains have the potential to lead the next bull run most especially layer 1 hybrid blockchains like Qanplatform

>>51121543
>im gonna watch closely and buy when it truly bottoms
>im 18 and am competing in a market with 30-50 year old men who have spent the past 10+ years looting every new retard to enter the market

>>51126706
I'm not doing any in-depth TA. I'm showing a trend. Using trend lines. Because it shows a trend and the trend is going down. That's all I'm showing on the chart. Trend. Price is going down. That's the trend. When trend different, trend lines change direction. Got it?
Buying an asset that's rapidly losing value is stupid.

>>51121558
How do you know where the bottom is? What you may be waiting for may never come. Waiting to buy at 10k - 15k is like how people were waiting to sell at 100k last year. You need to understand that a few thousand dip difference isn’t going to matter in the long term when we are out of recession, it’s going to be Pennie’s compared to how high it’s going to go. This is a good time to buy, and again, if you buy and it dips, it’s not going to matter in the long term at all.

>>51130110
Based. I'm also holding web3 assets like SOV, MATIC, ORE, FIL and DOT for the long term.

>>51121626
Low quality fud right here

>>51120725
You lost .. the decline so far been orderly ..pani selling stage not seen yet. Coming soon though.. sub 10k lvl probably way sub

>>51129216
I think good assets to invest in alonside BTC would be privacy alts chad. The need for privacy in the space cannot be overemphasized and we can look forward to more adoption in the future.

>>51120725
Since you have to be 18 to browse 4chin, you should get a 3 year ban for browsing 2+ years whilst underage. Oh, and welcome. You're Here Forever.

>>51121108
>There's absolutely no reason for it to stop going down to the bone.
Yes there is. Do you think miners do this for free? For a loss even.

>>51136436
You seriously doubt the climate cultists won't go after bitcoin due to it wasting ungodly amounts of energy for what is basically fiat 2.0?

>>51120725
Lemme noob, you knew about Bitcoin since when you were 15 that's three years ago and you fucking didn't bag even if it was a quarter of it, or should I take it that by then you didn't have money or you no phone nor internet connection, coz wtf. If I knew about crypto at your age damn it men I'd have in deep wealth but yet here I am, so I just DCA all I can on every solid gem there is on this space, be it Sylo, CTSI, Azero, Gmx and lots more, cause in this space we're still early and I ain't missing no chances again.

>>51120876
I have some advice for you young anon.
Research the Shemitah and Judaism. Sell Roshashana, Buy Yom Kippur. Wooden doors. It didn't happen but they deserved it.

>>51120725
Wishing you roses and flowers.

>>51128672
They'll all learn the hard way. The real veterans are watching from the sidelines to see where things go to from here. Stack up your stables instead and don't be a faggot looser.

>>51136589
I doubt they understand how that all works

>>51120725
Don't listen to anyone here just keep buying

>>51137659
Stables loose value overtime if not properly utilized.

>>51120725
Dropping that amount into BTC won't get you enough returns. Qanx or Ride would have been a better option

>>51137850
That's the more reason why staking platforms like Spool have become more popular now because of the safe and decent APYs it gives.

>>51120725
Anyone that said to just keep buying is absolutely correct. Do not lose out waiting to catch the absolute bottom. You are brand fucking new and even experienced traders can’t predict the bottom. That being said Bitcoin is not going to make you a lot of money. 5-10 times in the next 10 years maybe, but at this point spending $500 and becoming a millionaire with Bitcoin is a thing of the past. Look for solid alt projects if you want to make money, and maybe DCA 20% of your portfolio into one of BTC/LTC/XMR as a safe store of value. These are my personal favorites. Alliance Block is especially nice since for $500 you can get a make it stack which will likely be worth $500,000 in a few years. Search for strong utility, partnerships, use cases, and solid dev teams. Always double check and even send test transactions when you move things around. One misclick can lose you a fortune. Invest in a hardware wallet long term. Ledger, Keystone, and Trezor are all solid. Only buy from the official store to avoid compromised devices.

>>51138014
>decent APYs
What is decent? ngmi jeet

>>51138300
If I get up to 12% for staking stables on a decentralized platform that is built to ensure safety of funds then that is decent enough. CEXs don't even give this much incentives as Spool.

>>51130110
My bags is staked on Allianceblock Fundrs pool yielding reputation token that would be needed presale. Patiently waiting for the next bull run.

>>51138090
thank you ill be using this

>>51139165
im OP idk why my ID is different lol

>>51120908
If you research the fish you want and buy the actual recommended tank size for the fish and decorate it as close to their natural setting as possible and dont follow the bs 1 inch per gallon rule ur gonna have happy fish. I had 2 ranchu goldfish in a 30 gallon and they were affectionate, literally would swim into my hand so I could pet their heads. Also did a heavily aquascaped 20 gallon with an ass load of water column feeding plants for breeding cherry shrimp to sell. Between selling the plants and shrimp it paid for the whole hobby.

>>51121396
You should see the betas walmart employs.

>>51136530
Just wait til miners no longer have access to cheap energy and the shit gets even more regulated and they pull out and sell. Sure it wont go to zero. Maybe like 100 bucks if they keep mining in Africa or something.

>>51120725
>>51120876
Good move now wait two years and ignore the retards

>>51120725
you would've been better off tossing that into AWO.

>>51120725
You did good, just buy and hold. You're 18, it'll be worth a lot when you need it. Don't listen to all the fags on here who will shill you alts or tell you you bought the top.
Make sure you self custody, don't leave your money on an exchange.

>>51121487
but it's an even numbered trip...

>>51120725
>You're new
Begin to learn ways through which you can shield your wallets while trading. It's very important with the projected and alarming threats of censorship

>>51121345
Well, that's a very shallow perspective. There are several underrated altcoins with solid fundamentals that are worth buying. Good examples include privacy coins and privacy based tokens.

>>51138813
Reputation token? Wtf is that? Kek
I'm LP staking sylo for now until they eventually roll out the delegated staking thing. Evmos staking also seem very nice.

>>51122051
Did you just say take it off exchange?

Nice anon. I recommend putting it in a hard wallet. Keep it off exchanges anon. Also if you wish to diversify check out ETH and bitDAO. NFA DYOR good luck.

>>51138090
I gotta say, I'm impressed by choice of investing in Railgun. It's arguably one of the most underrated low caps worth investing in

>>51121108
>not considering volume

kys

>>51144752
Ngl it's taking forever for them to do that, should happen same time as network incentivisation and it would bring massive utility to the seekers.

>>51144818
On what basis?
Asking for a friend

>>51144782
Yes, not your keys, not your crypto

>>51144903
Anon gets it.
They'll certainly bang once node rewards become a thing, expect fp to go up for sure.

>>51145030

>>51137850
Inflation?

>>51144752
not a fan of LP cos of IL.. delegated staking would make so much sense for sure

>>51145014
Many reasons. In a strategic partnership with DCG and backing the DAO project with over $10M worth of investment. It has expressed over and over again why it's one of the most resilient, complete and secure privacy system out there. Absolutely decentralised and trustless with absence of bridges; meaning that there is no custodial risk of any kind. With the current momentum it's exercising following its appearances in the last two DeFiCons, it might turn out to be one of the biggest low caps to explode before EOY.

>>51138090
>maybe DCA 20% of your portfolio into one of BTC/LTC/XMR as a safe store of value. These are my personal favorites.
Investing in privacy focused coins and tokens is probably the smartest thing any trader can do right now, considering how ridiculously cheap many of them are right now relative to their projections.

>>51145030
I generally think it's best keep all your keys encrypted into a PIN such that you can have access to all your assets and identities from a single and secure account.

>>51145725
XMR will not pop off beyond $1000 I imagine. It’s too useful as actual currency to be used for speculation. Railgun, Rose, and Secret are all decent investment choices though. I agree privacy is going to be big, but utility is going to bigger long term

>>51122051
I'd rather manage them on a cross-chain identity protocol. Keeping track of so many assets across multiple chains can be quite demanding.

>>51145761
Not sure about Rose but Railgun and Secret Network are definitely super promising. The fact that they both support NFTs according to their design will be a big plus in terms of the prominence falling on privacy utilities

>>51145030
As simple as it sounds, it's fucked up so many crypto users; managing multiple keys are losing them to scammers in the process. The need for identity management systems cannot be overstressed.

>>51136449
>we can look forward to more adoption in the future.
Adoption won't go really far if users are freaking out at every point due to the threats in terms of security. Probably this is the best time for protocols aiming to drive mass adoption by lowering entry barrier to deliver