/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>51081937
Kys faggot.

I got married young and had children and now im rich at 32 and my only dream is to care for a trad gf and have had children with only her.

Youre a selfish piece of shit. You dont understand now but you will one day.

Just do it. If you can find a new place or your can kick her out, do it immediately. The akwardness is temporary, a sneaky slag is forever.

>>51081937
You're retarded if you don't want the mother of your children to be a stay-at-home mother. What is in the best interest of the child?

>>51081968
How am I selfish? My gf is shit at cooking and cleaning. The only good thing I would get out of this arrangement is a child.
>>51081975
Thankfully she doesn't live at my house. She's 32 and still living with her mother.

>>51081937
You're a fucking retard. Having a stay at home wife that cooks and cleans is easily worth the bullshit salary a women could make in the workforce. PLUS it's not taxes PLUS way less likely she cheats PLUS any children are raised way better PLUS healthier food and living environment. You are a fucking retard if you want your wife to work.

>>51081968
cuck

>>51081937
Don't listen to burger cucks in this thread
Just straight up break up with her

>>51082032
>My gf is shit at cooking and cleaning
so she wants to be a stay at home mom but cant even bother to learn how to cook? still living with her mother? it sounds like she has some issues.

>>51081937
What did she mean by this?

is there any indication that she would be a good mom? learning how to cook is the easiest part

>>51082198
>>51082231
She has a TON of issues. But she's been pretty low maintenance, is a homebody like me, and has huge titties. That's the reason I've been with her for almost a year.

>>51082032
Make her sign a contract making her your property and then tame your shrew. Ir tell her she has a massively overvalued sense of self and you know you can do better.

>>51081968
pretty simp behavior desu, kinda cringe. Looking forward to your loyalty being betrayed when she goes 4-0 with you and takes you car, house, kids, and money

>>51082032
OP don't listen to a bunch of poltards and glowies larping as successful trad men who want you to have kids they can molest, you know what's best for you, if your gf is a parasite just change your locks, email, phone, start wearing a disguise and ghost her.

>>51081937
The thing is, you would save a shit ton of money on childcare, nannies, daycare, etc if your wife is a housewife. So you really aren't losing as much money as you'd think.

>>51082025
Also this. Otherwise your kids will be fags and trannies.

>>51081937
>>51081968
Who's faggoting who here?

>>51081937
Get her preggers

>>51082314
I would have no problems with a tradwife if she was really good at cooking, cleaning, and making/sticking to a budget.
>>51082351
Thank God she takes birth control. I need to break this relationship off before her pill "stops working"

>>51082311
>if your gf is a parasite just change your locks, email, phone, start wearing a disguise and ghost her.
what a soulless society the west has become
literally everything is about profit on both a macro and micro level

>>51082383
It's because women don't know their place anymore and men are fed up with it. Alimony laws are the main culprit.

>>51082365
>>51082351
>>51082338
>>51082314
>>51082311
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>>51082263
>She has a TON of issues
that's all you need to know. never make children with her

She wants to stay home and do nothing all day while spending your money and nagging you. Don't listen to the mommy issues beta clowns here with their trad mommy wife who wont betray em fantasies, stay independent and spend your money.

>>51081937
Just tell her that you're looking for a partnership, not a sugar baby. If that is really what she wants, she better be really good at sucking dick and taking it up the ass on command.

>>51081937
>What's the gentlest way for me to dump her?
there is no gentle way
just be honest and tell her it's over, don't wait
the lazy way is to incrementally behave like an asshole til she gets fed up and leaves on her own, but results may vary

>>51081937
The formula for determining if you will allow your wife to be a stay at home mom or require her to hold a job is very simple:
>Is she a virgin?
>If yes, she can be a stay at home mom.
>If no, she has to work.
It's that simple. If she wants the trade lifestyle she has to actually be trad. Having a body count before marriage does not equal trad, therefore she works.

>>51082504
>nagging you.
This is the key. No matter how much you sacrifice, a person like this will never respect or admire you. Instead of admitting to themselves that you are taking care of them, they will nag you, and act like you owe them even more. Like I said, unless she is a subserviant sex toy, who admits her inferiority to you, this will never work. There is no way you can allow some lazy chick to sit around the house pretending to be your equal. She will cheat on you, 100%, and then blame you for working long hours. She will say that you were not, "being there" for her, and so she had to fuck some other guy. The other guy will be some total bumb loser. She will leave you, take the kids, and you will pay for it the rest of your life.

hey oh-pee, just remember that no one is perfect, especially not (you), you 4chin lurking faggot retard. you have someone to stick pee pee in and she wants to homeschool your kids. are you up to the task or are you a huge nigger?

>>51081937
just tell her she can't be a stay at home mom lol

Suggest you be a stay-at-home-dad.

>2 hour tops spent hoovering and cooking in a week. Maybe less as technology improves.
>rest of the time watching daytime tv and fucking the postwoman and milklady
>she comes home drunk sometimes after work and forces herself on you, maybe beats you a little
>if you divorce you get half her shit

>>51081968
>selfish

Everyone come and laugh at this cuck.

>>51082651
This is exactly what I fear. Shortly after we started dating, I let her drive my brand new car while I was at work because her car was having some kind of trouble. Then she got upset when I came to my senses and told her I don't want her driving my car anymore.
>>51082704
I'm definitely not perfect but I'm wealthy and think I deserve someone that's mentally stable and not lazy.
>>51082735
I did. But it would be really easy for her to make up bullshit excuses about why she can't go back to work. And then what would I do? Kick her out of the house while I care for the child alone?

lmao at those wanting a do nothing wife. Have fund with the divorce. My options right now are my gf in med school and my ex who is high up ins a startup. desu I can't choose.

>>51082759
you're out of your mind if you seriously think big tits outweighs mental stability. Seriously fucking retarded but you deserve it if you actually marry her. Plenty of good girls around but go ahead.

>>51081968
>selfish
I don’t want to have any lids in the hellhole of a country I live in. Maybe someplace else but not in the third world, that is true selfishness.

That's how things were back in the good times. Before the women rights bullshit. You should be happy

>>51082383
Welcome to late stage capitalism. Enjoy the ride, it only gets worse from here.

>>51082759
>I'm definitely not perfect but I'm wealthy and think I deserve someone that's mentally stable and not lazy
so what is stopping you getting that? your lazy, mentally ill gf? get a grip my dude

>>51082263
>has huge titties

Ah, I see the problem now. OP is willing to endure many years of suffering in exchange for free rides on the milk truck. Foolish short term thinking

>>51081937
You haven't really thought this thing through have you?

Oh well, your loss, dummy.

>>51082790
>>51082838
The big titties merely clouded my judgement for 4 of the past 11 months. I know what I have to do.

This is just a thinly masked woman hate thread.

>>51081968
In the past 2~ years there's been constant and increasing "muh trad wife" spam on this website. Who the fuck has some kind of vested interest in tricking dudes 24-40 into thinking they should be honored to marry some whore and raise her kids? It's really starting to fucking annoy me.

>>51081937
One of the hardest things to do is break up with a woman. Don't let her hold you back

>>51081937
just nut in her then ghost her ass

>>51081968
if your kids are old enough to be in school you're a fuckin simp lmao

>>51082915
1. Single mothers
2. People who have never actually had a gf

And then 2 meets 1 and settles down to a Deano life.

>>51082798
Women that placate to your traditional interests are probably compensating for something undesirable nowadays. With enough digging you’ll probably find they agree with a radical feminist on more ideas than with you. Most of their motivation for doing so is probably out of laziness or making you out to be some kind of sugar daddy.
Of course women are what you want them to be within a relationship, but the least amount of baggage just makes things easier.

>>51082032
when you find yourself alone and no one gives af - its b/c he's right you're selfish
dump her, fuck her its not about her its about you retard. you'll see

>>51082311
>ghost her

I bet op’s bitch is white. White bitches stay at home and don’t even do shit—no cook, no clean, and you can definitely forget about taking care of the child(ren). You’ll just wind up with children who hate you and you won’t even recognize while sucking dick at a job you hate for no reason now.

>>51082383
>literally everything is about profit on both a macro and micro level

Always has been, in low trust society anyway.

>>51082563
Based

>>51081968
Kys boomer pos. People like you are exactly the reason why the world is going to hell in a hand basket. Op needs to teach this bitch a life lesson the hard way. Let her be a single roastie for life.

>>51082032
>My gf is shit at cooking and cleaning.
>She's 32 and still living with her mother.
>>51082263
>She has a TON of issues. But she's been pretty low maintenance, is a homebody like me
I swear to god we have the same gf

>>51082704
Did you read the thread faggot or are you just trolling? OP's gf isn't the traditional type of woman she can't even cook or clean and is lazy so if she can't do those basic things how will she be able to raise children?
>you have someone to stick pee pee in
I want a woman that can give me more than what my right hand already can. I want a soulmate not a piece of meat.

>>51082056
This Anon knows.

This is the only way a real relationship can thrive. Women who work are constantly distracted by outside BS and work themselves into a shit body. Make ur wife stay home, cook, clean, raise the children and force he to be in peak physical condition.

I force my wife to do this and make sure she is groomed to perfection so when I come home she is ready for fucking and vacations when we can afford it. She seems to love the freedom and is more than happy to follow out plan.

>>51082991
That gun shoots 3 at a time. Nice try.

>>51083050
Also if she doesn't know how to cook and clean, you can either teach her or force her to figure it out with positive reinforcements and rewards.

>>51083050
it's honestly surprising how many women are willing to roll with it even if outwardly independent before the relationship, but it doesn't mean they're all marriage material

the demons surface sooner or later

you probably found a good one

Why would you let women just jump down from Very Easy mode to Tutorial with cheats? Why can't you stop simping?

And you say she's 32. Nigga, if you're actually wealthy, go get some younger poon.

>>51083016
>>51083034
>I want a woman that can give me more than what my right hand already can. I want a soulmate not a piece of meat.
Exactly! I've even heard her mother and grandma tell her that she "needs to figure out how to make her man's life easier" if she wants to keep a good man. But she dropped the ball on that one.
>>51083050
I'm not disagreeing with you but I don't think this is possible in America. Maybe I need to import a wife from Thailand or Philippines.
>>51083074
This wouldn't work out. She once stormed away to my bedroom and called her mom when I got onto her leaving a mess in my microwave.

>>51081937
Just tell her sorry it just won't work out, we want different things. Always works for me.

>>51083137
>Maybe I need to import a wife from Thailand or Philippines.
Why not latina? They look better and your kids won't be ugly (still mutts).

>>51083137
>This wouldn't work out. She once stormed away to my bedroom and called her mom when I got onto her leaving a mess in my microwave.
kek. 32y/o woman. If you weren't rich, I'd think you're a complete loser (like I am).

>>51083137
honey I hate to tell you but there's a reason you were dating such an immature woman in the first place

look in the mirror sometime

>>51081968
You expect his gf to be trad? Kek, she wants to turn into a fat hog and do nothing at home

>>51082056
kek
>cleaning
you could pay somebody for some Euros/dollars a week to do that, which might be economically way more effective
>cooking
I'm no food guy, I don't care about that

>>51083137
>This wouldn't work out. She once stormed away to my bedroom and called her mom when I got onto her leaving a mess in my microwave.
She sounds pretty psychologically unstable.
Don't expect her to learn all these things you wish from her.

I'm from a traditional family background (southern europe), where women are regularly stay at home moms. My mother still worked in the beginning of the marriage and after having 2 kids. And that was +40 years back in time, when the roles were stricter (man a provider, woman housewife). If your gf already asks you now before being married and having children to stay home, she simply wants you to take care of her.

>>51083170
Some latinas look like filipinas and vice-versa. You need to get a gook that looks like a beaner or a beaner that looks like a gook, those are usually the better looking women of both races

Tell her it's 2022 and you're offended by her outdated patriarchal gender stereotypes.

>>51081968
Trad gfs don’t exist

>>51083881
>>51082365
The cooking and cleaning thing is such a meme.
Cooking used to mean walking miles into town to trade eggs for butter and then walking miles back, then tossing dough around for an hour to make bread, gather wood to light a fire for your oven etc.
Cleaning used to meant going to the river twice to get enough water for when you take out all the laundry and scrubbing dirty farmers clothes and then hanging them all up yourself, and beating the rest of the laundry with sticks and brooms to get the lice and mouse droppings out of them, then dusting your entire house because everything is dirty the floor is basically made of dust.

Nowadays you just make some dinner in 20 minutes, use your dishwasher, and your washer and drier and it only took like 30 minutes total to do everything. Cooking and cleaning is fucking nothing.

keking at all the retards that think their wife isnt cheating on them just because she is a stay at home mom lol.

get a surrogate mother from a tall bitch and dont waste time/money with used holes

>>51084142
>Nowadays you just make some dinner in 20 minutes, use your dishwasher, and your washer and drier and it only took like 30 minutes total to do everything. Cooking and cleaning is fucking nothing.
Exactly but my gf can't even manage that.

>>51084143
The first part was retarded, but I cant find any reason to disagree eith you for the second part

>>51081937
Tell her you got a pay cut at work but still make $(just enough so she'll have to get a job)

>>51084229
How is it retarded? feel free to explain how every betabuck is safe from getting cheated on while you are at the office.

but yes, tall surrogate mother is the true future of smart men, i guess you could still get married after that for some reason

>>51082263
How huge we talking?

>>51081937
>What's the gentlest way for me to dump her?

vegan friendly fabric sack into a river part of an animal sanctuary

>>51082263
>issues
>titties
a challenging dilemma
Thank God i'm an incel

>>51084286
My wife has avoidant personality disorder and barely leaves the house without me. I'm the only man she's ever touched. She is happy to be a stay-at-home mother as it spares her from the working world, which she finds overwhelming.

>>51084179
Lmao and she want be a stay at home mom. She's just trying to trap you into a relationship. Better get yourself some better coochie anon

>>51084352
Where can I find an autistic gilr like that. Unironically seems like a dream come true to me

>>51084382
We met on 4chan. She likes giving advice to guys trying to meet autistic women and usually tells them to try going after librarians as she studied library science.

kek when i became a millionaire after 7 years of working and saving and offered a chance for my gf to stay home and focus on baby she left me

>>51081937
My gf makes more than me and I suggested to her that I would be fine with being a full time daddy, but she doesn’t want kids ;___;

>>51084468
>but she doesn’t want kids
*with you

>>51081937
NO ONE HAS TO TELL AN AVERAGE MAN HE AIN'T SHIY AND DOESNT DESERVE A SUPER MODEL

BUT CALL AN AVERAGE WOMAN AVERAGE AND ITS AN INSULT.

>>51084468
>but she doesn’t want kids ;___;
lmao your ass gon get dumped boy, she fucking some other nigga behind your back already

>>51084468
you can imagine that if you were a chad earning more than her she would beg you to have children

>>51084475
>>51084480
>>51084490
Damn y’all are insecure.

>>51084505
that's the truth. She getting dicked by some dude at work bro trust

>>51084505
You're the insecure one. I mean why would have to bitch and then justify your relationship on an anonymous ball bouncing forum

>>51084518
You’re right she is. Because she works from home with me nigger.

>>51084534
Just saying it’s not a bad deal at all to be a stay at home dad if you’ve got a good woman, which I do, but unfortunately she doesn’t want kids at all. She wants a fucking dog, kill me

>>51082056
>PLUS any children are raised way better
Look, I lust after a prettyTradWife and wish to live in the world where stay-at-home-wives were the norm. Even in my father's generation, this was a status symbol. But I was raised, primarily, by a StayAtHome Wife. And this I'll say... A mother's level of educational entertainment predicts their children's level of educational attainment, by a shockingly high percentage. A father's level of educational attainment has basically no statistically-significant effect whatsoever. My stay-at-home-mom taught me how to love God (this is unironically an invaluable gift, I am not being flippant to say so) but very little about the Ways of the World. This is historically what women were meant to teach the world. They were meant to spiritually-educate the young for a few years until their fathers could mentor them into the adult man's mode of life. But an unlearned mother begets an unlearned son. As big a meme as """college""" is, you're honestly Never Going To Make It without it at some point.

>>51084468
>she doesn’t want kids

They all want kids anon. She’s doesn’t want them with you. And deep down you know that’s true. So do yourself a favor and kill yourself so the agony that we all know is buried deep down inside of you ends. Give in and end it.

>>51081937
Cheating on her or ghosting her. Everything else is gay

>>51084627
Then it's worth it to get a wife who got very advanced degrees and then ditched her career for her kids

>>51082795
Where do you live?

>>51082759
Bro throw her back there are plenty of fish in the sea worth catching.

>>51084646
valid, and in past generations this was called "The MRS Degree" (Mrs.) but you have to then be someone who is of outsized success, and most-likely of high educational attainment yourself

>>51081937
Start acting like a needy little obnoxious beta cuck and doing unattractive shit like crying and being a pussy so she’ll dump you then once it’s over let her see you with your new Stacy.

Love the pic btw. My favorite saying when negotiating is “you can have some of the donut or all of the hole!”

>>51084721
>Start acting like a needy little obnoxious beta cuck and doing unattractive shit like crying and being a pussy
That's how she described her last bf. That and poor hygiene. But she didn't break up with him until he started talking to some whore on Onlyfans. I'm not willing to stoop that low.

Supposedly women being thrifty and cooking for you would reduce household expenditures for you. Modern women can't make a grilled cheese sandwich or balance a budget despite having computers that will do 99% of the work for them. If the most valuable thing a woman can offer you is her various holes and nothing else, you're better off just choking your chicken.

>>51081968
based
everyone calling this guy a cuck is a goy whose bloodline will never succeed

>>51082651
100% accurate. If you accept the terms you’re also signing up for this. If you’re into it that’s cool but don’t lie to yourself

>>51081968
>>51084784
Are you really happy if you are this bitter online?

>>51081968
Funny, you type like a broke incel

>>51084784
I had a kid half a decade and that faggot is a cuck.

Must be quite the monkeys paw to put all your trust in anonymous strangers just because they get laid more than you, huh?

>>51082056
>>51082032
>>51082025
>>51081968

>all these triggered traditionalists
Women nowadays are shit at cooking and cleaning. And if you ask them to improve you get completely canceled for being an oppressive patriarch. Since OP said "GF" they probably don't have a kid either. If someone wants to stay at home to watch the kid that's totally fine, but if they don't have kids, and the bitch wants to be a stay at home wife, there better be a lobster dinner warm and ready every night as the wife crawls up on her knees ready to do whatever is asked.

>>51081968
Cuckold post

>>51082891
I refuse to wear a mask and I thickly hate women.

>>51082563
based

stay at home wife is actually a job
cleaner for your house
babysitter for ur kids
chef for ur food
secretary to run errands for u while ur working
hooker to bang when u get home

>>51084352
so you got lucky, you think most men have a wife like yours? either way, congrats, jelly.

>>51084583
yikes brother, she is looking to monkey branch

>>51081937
Why would you dump her? Pray not for lighter burdens, but broader shoulders. I fully support my wife and kids in any and all of their endeavors. My wife hasnt worked since we moved in together and I couldnt imagine being such a shithead that shed ever have to.

>>51082025
To be my second wife

>>51082563
Based

>>51081937
i fail to see the problem. you want your kids in daycare?

being a stay at home mother to a working class guy with a shit job was totally doable back in the day. it's not anymore. so obviously her ability to be a stay at home mother, which is what she wants to do, depends on whether or not you can make decent money. simple as.

as long as she doesn't think she's going to be in control of that money and buying fancy shoes and going shopping all the time. might have to put your foot down on that one, but she wouldn't respect you if you didn't.

>>51082800
>I don't know how fiat works lol
I know that you don't understand economics and trade because you're a leftist but this has to be said for posterity.

>>51082562
>the lazy way is to incrementally behave like an asshole til she gets fed up and leaves on her own, but results may vary
yeah no shit results may vary, some women soak up the abuse like a sponge, thrive on it, demand it even. it's sick but they love the drama

>>51084142
Take a day off work and tell her you're going to help around the house.

Do every imaginable chore. At the end of it ask her what the fuck she does all day.

>>51084142
Stay at home moms should have a sidegig of selling shit to make sure they bring in money and also teach the little kids to be entrepreneurs themselves
If not then they need to be trophy wives with perfect bodies WITHOUT SURGERY and still be loving, high energy, and supportive.

>>51086376
Why no surgery tho?

If she can actually add value to the household, maybe. Does she cook or clean or do grocery shopping?

>>51083034
i think i found the problem. you're unable to train a woman. good luck finding 'the one', dumbass

>>51084352
god i wish i was you

Tell her that if she produces at least 4 children for you and she is a good mother and wife (this includes subordinating herself to you, never disrespecting you in public, and never cheating on you), you'll pay the bills and you'll fight to the death to protect her and your children.

That is a fair trade, and it's the trade that we have evolved to make.

>>51084142
Lmao you never cooked retard, and for a family 2-3 times a day no less

Amerilards discussing the workload of a stay at home mother when they still live with their mother and only eat uber eats lmao

>>51082759
Women are the epitome of solipsism manifested in human form as some kind of divine punishment. You literally don't occur to them. That's why men with low morals, cons, drug dealers, abusers, fuck the most. They don't give a shit what makes others they're happy or satisfied, they just want their next emotional morphine hit.

>>51086842
Marriage only "works" for 2 reasons: either a man is so good at manipulation he can trick a particularly weak willed woman into thinking she can't do better. Or one of you dies before the divorce contracts are written up, and remember, people die everyday.

>>51086546
Unironically this, most of you aren't gonna find a trad gf, but encouraging your gf to build good habits and a minimum domestic skillset can mitigate most of the problems. Though, of course, that's up to how willing they are to learn.

Gf felt bad about not knowing how to do shit at home so I enrolled her in a couple of home economics and cooking classes after her work. She's still not a '50s housewife by any means, but she feels a lot better about herself and our relationship is better for it. The tradeoff was that I had to enroll in a home DIY class, but it was worth it.

>>51082746
this is my fetish