/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>50976596
Social media company tried to transition to what is essentially a game development company relying on technology which really isn't ready for mainstream consumption yet and might never be.

>>50976596
He grifted more than he should have. In hindsight a top signal. But beneath all that, a sign of what to expect when it comes to our lovely ecosystem. The Oracle knows all.

>>50976596
no idea. it's like they decided to run their company like a boomer with a TV would do.
>Metaverse is the next trend
>Let's fully transition to META

>>50976596
Nigga posting screenshots from 2008

>>50976596
That's the Betaverse, where all the graphics are inspired by globohomo art.

>>50976596
why does his avatar look like it is wearing makeup?

Zuckerberg will be successful and you will all be seething by the end of this decade

>>50976596
Even cyberzuck looks like a lizard wearing a skinsuit.

I haven't looked at Facebook's 10k's or anything, but it seems a lot of the Meta bulls argue it is a value stock right now because the Metaverse capex isn't too high for their cashflow, and they still have an enduring value in their massive userbase. Personally I think the whole pivot to the Metaverse kind of reflects badly on Zuck's judgement, especially with how public facing they've been about it. It's not like Google changed its name to Glass when it was pushing for its own AR device. Facebook just feels like it is betting its future on the Metaverse, and I don't know how they walk this back in the likely event it doesn't pan out beyond Facebook having a VR gaming arm. Which honestly wouldn't even be that bad of an outcome, if they had pivoted into VR with an eye towards cornering it and developing it as a gaming and entertainment segment of their business, that doesn't seem like the worst investment. I just think the way they're pitching it makes it look deranged.

>>50977018
zuck will be seething seeing how no matter how much he pours into his wet meta dream he wont be rejoining the cool kids club ever again

>>50976596
Do this is the power of diversity

he doesn't use his own products so he has no idea what normies want in a product. In his head he just wants to get the normies data at any cost. He's going to burn through all his money in a few years and disapear from the public eyes. He will also try to copy other platforms like vr chat or second life but it will fail because it takes time to develop a community of users.

>>50977307
>he doesn't use his own products
I do think he has ever played a video game in his life.

>>50976596
The problem is in trying capture the concept of imagination within a corporate framework. Still doesn't excuse the pisspoor graphics. Terrible.

>>50977000
His avatar is the most realistic part of the meta verse.
Not everyone’s. Just his.

He got lucky with Facebook.
He either didn't understand or capitalize on what made fb successful. Now that the times have moved on, we see what he truly is. Just some guy was in the right place at the right time.

Why don't big tech stocks like META pay dividents? It's not like they have any big expenses. I could program and run FB from my home for like 100k a year.

>>50977405
his luck was government support, meta is zucks greedy way of charging 40% fees on digital sales so it is of no use to big brother.

>>50977458
lmao, sure you could

>>50977458
What's the point? They prefer to reinvest everything in the stock

>>50976596
Where did all those money go lmao

>>50976596
This is the direct result of diversity and inclusion hiring practices

The best thing this rat has ever done is bring NFTs on Instagram/Facebook via Polygon. This is the man's magnum opus.

>>50977458
Stock buybacks are slightly tax advantaged compared to dividends. I think the inflation reduction act might change that equationrm8r2r

>>50977680
sadly true

>>50977644
a single code monkey in California costs like a million dollar a year

>>50976596
Here's the thing. Nobody wants to do this. It's just a dumb fucking idea. No matter how good or bad zuck's avatar looked, the problem is nobody trusts or likes that little glowie faggot or his evil inforobbery corporation.

>>50977750
Stock buybacks seem more targeted too. The secondary market for equities is based around the market value of the stocks, dividends are just a minor bonus. If you want regular payments, get into bonds or something. But buybacks can be used in a targeted way to support share value when it is falling below whatever the company thinks is a fair value. It can buy out the people who want out of the business (by selling their stock), and the people who are invested and want to stay in it will make up a greater and greater proportion of the shareholders, helping stabilize the stock price at higher levels. Dividends just scatter payments to people who aren't even necessarily seeking them. It is an inefficient use of money.

>>50976596
he just got lucky with facebook and that was more than 10 years ago, probably metaverse is his last shot

>>50977879
Sure, but i dont think companies tend to "buy low". Since usually if their stock is tanking it means the market is pricing in some operational risk that is going to cause management to be overly cautious when returning capital.

>>50978013
That is true, usually this kind of dynamic doesn't really occur and companies just buy back stock when they're flush with cash and the market is booming. I just think in theory that dividends seem inefficient for returning value (not taking account of whatever the prevailing tax incentives are).

>>50977030
Yeah I really don't get it. Hasn't VR tech failed many times over? The technology has been around for decades at this point but it's never really seen mass adoption. Kinda like 3D movies/TVs. Just doesn't really appeal to people

Facebook's Horizon needed to be the killer app to showcase the appeal of VR headsets. But for that to happen, it would have to be much more than a silly VR chat room. Where is the innovation? Crypto scams have more ingenuity than Facebook.

>>50978125
Yeah, I own a Quest 2 since it was super cheap during the pandemic and there are a handful of VR games I wanted to try. Plus I have a gaming PC, so I could use it with PC games. Overall it's a fun device, and my 10 year old nephew got one for Christmas that him and all of his friends loved for Gorilla Tag and stuff like that. I can definitely see them sticking around as gaming devices, even for fitness stuff and maybe some creative applications (but I don't have any skill in visual arts so I dunno if VR brings anything to the table there really). But like I said, Meta seriously comes off as deranged when they market this thing. Everybody thinks they're trying to create the Matrix or something, since they're making it out like people are going to live in VR. I'm even skeptical that the classic Google Glass AR thing will ever take off. I see the potential, but I also see how people increasingly want to reject having so many devices and being so connected to apps and web platforms. But regardless, I do think some kind of AR glasses would be the most likely new device to compliment smartphones and watches and all this other junk. Maybe Meta finally develops that tech in a way people feel comfortable using, but I don't see people clamoring to spend most of their time in VR headsets.

>>50978125
What I've noticed from people who try VR is that they're very impressed and engaged for about 30 minutes and then the novelty wears off. I know a handful of people who bought the Oculus Quest 2, said that they absolutely loved it, and then stopped using it after a week. The headsets are uncomfortable, all of the games feel the same, and having a bright screen assault your eyes at every angle from an inch away will give most people a headache sooner or later. I think VR is just more taxing mentally and physically than what people are getting out of it.

>>50976596
My guess is that his employees are complete shit (like most tech companies).

>>50978414
Isn't meta being marketed towards companies that want to telecommunicate and hold meetings among work from home employees? So if one black lesbian employee complains she feels uncomfortable entering the metaverse for any reason, it suddenly stops being appropriately inclusive. Only way this takes off in a corporate setting is if people are mind broken by endless lockdownerism again. Faceberg will probably lobby the government to lock people down again for some contrived reason.

>>50976596
these posts miss the point by a fucking mile. do you really think the entire FB "metaverse" team can't figure out making the graphics better?

This product is obviously being designed to run at the edge in the developing world. You need something that runs on a shitbox in Brazil or the Philippines.

Metaverse will develop into the main remote work portal for low pay offshore workers. There are many places in the developing world where your only internet access is through facebook. As far as you know, facebook is the entire internet. The future Zucc and others are building towards is one where cheap labor in the third world has two options - work a local job for lmao0$ or work a remote job using the facebook metaverse as the remote work gateway.

All the crypto/second life nonsense is trying to sell the big picture to western investors.

Second Life Linden Dollars will soon be available on ETH, slurp while you can.

>>50978704
Or they could just use email to communicate and don't have to buy gimmicky bullshit.

Metaverse and VR are completely worthless.

>>50976596
will there be a Superman mod for this world? Could it be Homelander instead?

wasn't this whole pivot to meta/the metaverse a move on zuck's part to hide all the controversy they'd been receiving?

>>50977000
>>50977403
Anybody can be a tranny in the Matrix!
Facebook is a woke ally, just like /biz/.

>>50978846
omg finally I can become a tranny without cutting off my genitalia or having a zipper tits

>>50978812
I figured it was just because Facebook is dying, and the company needs more big things in their portfolio besides Instagram

>>50976850
Because zuck isn't human and whatever was helping him before is not currently assisting him.

>>50977405
100%. He didn't become successful because he was a pioneer or an innovator he just took other people's good ideas and lucked out.

It's because they want to make it run on absolute shit hardware. Like running two games at the same time at 1440p on a pc from 2012. It's bad.

>>50978942
He stole Facebook from the Winklevoss twins.
He never innovated and created anything because he can't as a soulless Jewish psychopath.
Everything he did after stealing this was trying to buy back other successful companies with money and destroy them because that's the only thing he can do.

>>50976646
well either that or build a rocket. I guess the little jew fagged out

>>50976596
wtf is that real

>>50976596
He's trying to be something he's not. He is a business man not a smart innovative tech guy. Mark could have just waited for another company to do the hard work, build a successful metaverse, buy them out and it wouldn't cost him 10B to buy them out either.

Mark is just after cementing his legacy and ego now. No one thinks of Mark as a visionary or genius and I'm sure that really bothers him. People only view him as a weird guy who's not fully human that got lucky someone gave him the idea for facebook. This is his attempt to show everyone he didn't just get lucky he actually is smart but it's obvious at this point he is going to fail.

>>50976596
>le metaverse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_HnUbNVygg

>>50978938
Facebook isn't really dying though, they're facing competition but they have the enormous size and the cash flow to constantly acquire companies that help position them. They did that with Instagram. Other tech companies in the ad game do the same thing, like Google. What feels weird about the Metaverse pivot is what a longshot it feels like and how heavy they've leaned into it. I didn't think it was weird for Facebook to acquire Oculus or start looking into VR and AR, tech companies have been on that beat for a while now in various ways and Apple is trying to get its fingers in there because AR glasses probably seem like a great addition to their empire of small computing devices. But for a company the size of Facebook this kind of R&D is usually just a leg of their overall business strategy, and even to the degree they expect it to really consume other segments in their business it is still usually something they're going to build up to gradually. But Facebook entirely rebranded and keeps putting out ads and shit for something they say won't exist for years. It's almost like Facebook wants to be Tesla, but Tesla started peddling its vision from the beginning as a growth company. When a huge profitable company starts behaving like Tesla, it kind of feels like they're panicking or something.

>>50976596

Anyone not buying meta at these levels is going to feel like a fucking moron in 5 years

>>50980158
Whats your reasoning? Do you believe in the metaverse stuff or do you just think it can't hurt them because they're so large?

>>50980130
You're missing what gives Facebook value, which is its social media reach and how to monetize on it, which is by advertising.
I currently work in marketing, and Facebook is acting like a total shit. Attribution is basically impossible on iOS 14+, and even on Android Facebook is providing shitty data. Compare to pretty much any other platform which works so much better.

This means people can optimise and leverage Facebook less, which in turn means more budget goes towards other FAGMAN companies or social media platforms and their advertising channels.

The thing is that Google and the others have strong side hustles going that are not solely advertising. TikTok is an exception, but then again they're not that old yet.
What does Facebook have? They're basically on their way to become the next Snap and scared shitless because of it. Especially now that Linkedin is basically becoming the new Facebook and WhatsApp is having a fuckton of competitors.

>>50976596
>How did zuck fail so hard?
all of his "successes" are from stealing from actually talented people, even instagram was totally functional before they bought it
the real question is why so many retards still use facebook

>>50976596
maybe he's a double agent and he failed on purpose to save us from the matrix by ruining the VR industry.

>>50976596
basically this >>50979450

Zuckerberg is obsessed with becoming the next Augustus and cementing his name in history for the next few millennia. He thought he could do it by reinventing reality, but the retard didn't realize that NOBODY would give up their lives for the current VR tech.

>>50977403
Why does he have two grills? All the pictures of this dude seem like he is a literal alien unaware of human culture
Like that picture where he used a barbecue sauce bottle as a bookend

I own a quest 2 and believe VR is a huge new medium, but its going to take some time. Facebook had to walk back the sign in option on the quest 2 because people didn't want to connect their facebook accounts or they just dont want to make one. Their trust is basically zero. The OP image is also from their flagship horizon worlds app and its a pretty good piece of technology that has a pretty robust "forge" mode. Moving around in it feels soul less though. At one point I even questioned whether the other people were even real. Compare it to something like VR chat that has real soul but is being sold off to VC's.

I don't think facebook is very experienced in the hardware field, and I think someone is going to come along thats going to make a better device thats more open source and eat their lunch. Its like how we went from sony,sega,nintendo to eventually sony,xbox and now everyone is on pc. People don't want constraints.

>>50976596
He's king wordcel

>>50976596
What is the 'main' metaverse? whats the website? How do you access it? Arent they all on different platforms? Is the infrastructure even there now? I dont get how the fuck any of this is supposed to work.

>>50976596
>How did zuck fail so hard?
a)He knows almost nothing about technology
b)VR needs GPUs and easily damaged end user hardware sold at a loss to create a market..HOWEVER it also ages like milk technologically.
c)VR has been around since the 90s and fails for the same reasons every time, people view it as a novelty and don;t like shit strapped to their head because it fucks up their makeup/glasses can't have drink, smoke, makes them nauseous, gives them next pain(big lawsuit that one) etc etc
d)He knows nothing about technology its history or anything much, he is the front man for a spyware company facebook is a forced meme walled garden pile of shit destined to fail
e)He knows nothing about technology

>>50976850
they only changed the name to META cause of Facebook lawsuits

I made a unity game in my free time that looks better than this shit and can run in a browser. Absolute shit Zuck Go back to tracking everyone exploring behind their love of friends and family.

>>50976596
I really don't know wtf this retard was even thinking. VR tech really isn't there yet and there's a good possibility that it will be years before it is. Wearing an uncomfortable, hot and heavy helmet with a screen strapped 5cm away from your face gets old really fast, unless they can come up with a system that has a similar footprint to a pair of sunglasses they're never going anywhere.

>>50981678
>Its like how we went from sony,sega,nintendo to eventually sony,xbox and now everyone is on pc.
Everything is on PC? No and it never was. The PC was originally the cutting edge of gaming and multimedia evolution, for about 20 years it has been the home of the spoilt brat. The reasons game consoles died
1)Gaming is a cyclical industry and it has hit max bloat and poor return. It has lost all innovation and is 95% FPS interface with bells and painful 'creative' plots and cut scenes made by homosexuals no one cares about. This shit has to stop. Doom came out nearly 30 years ago. Some thing new or fuck off. Isometric dungeon crawlers, race games, falling blocks, side scollers, platforms flight simulators,rts etc etc all has been around for decades. It is all STALE. It is done. You could buy an XBox 360 and 100 games and get far better value and more entertainment than if you bought the latest console and everything for it.
2)No one wants games consoles that require connectivity, accounts and are multiplayer. Despite all the youtube accounts and twitch streams gaming was born and grew and all its major themes were created single player physical medium. No one wants something you pay for that then gets deleted arbitrarily when the company that sold it decides you don't get it any more.

Again facebook has always been shit Zuckerberg had access to unlimited money because he was a Rothschild and the best he could do with that and tech was fucking facebook and spyware, which is still illegal by the way and always was in e.g. the UK see the computer misuse act. Zuckerberg knows nothing about technology, neither does bezos they are gen 3.0 of don't know don't care 1%s with connections to finance. They are not gates they are not Woznak they are just frontmen with blank chequebooks and bullshit artists.

>>50980229

Metaverse stuff is gonna blow the fuck up. Just look at the numbers of Quests sold - 16mm, almost as much as the latest PS5 and Xbox. Yes, much cheaper price and they were selling them for a hard loss before the price change, but that's not the point. They are proving that demand for VR tech in its current stage is there and they are establishing themselves as the most important company for adoption on two levels, 1 being the hardware proliferation level, and 2 being the federated verified identity level.

First, we have seen VR live and die at least 2 times since the emergence of home entertainment systems. Both instances were obviously doomed from the start because of the infancy of technology and lack of cultural significance. Between 95 and 2005, proliferation of technology form factors exploded so that almost everyone owned a phone, a PC, and/or a console. Take the next 15 years and send that to the next fucking dimension (obviously). Adopters of technology were (in time) not restricted to a certain age group and at this point not even a clear socioeconomic or demographic distinction (girl gamers, poor gamers, celebrities who game, gamers who are celebrities) - and this is only games, not withstanding the immense proliferation of SOCIAL platforms that relied on these devices and technologies, which obviously exploded beyond the "gamer" paradigm, but relied on very similar dynamics and technologies (hardware, internet, communication/activity over a digital platform).

What we have with VR, in my opinion, is the next iteration of fundamental technology. Third time is a charm, and though many projects stumbled through esoteric status (vive, index, etc.) Meta has broken through with something usable, affordable, and appealing to sell fucking 16mm in 1 year.

>>50982039

So, now we have at least two generations exposed to technology, most of whom are on Meta devices due to cost, accessibility, and functionality. From a device adoption perspective, Meta has already laid the groundwork for space domination, and they're just getting started - the meme is only just getting started. The next year or two of technological progress is going to take the Quest to the next level, and invariably the older model will be come even cheaper and more affordability. Sales of VR headsets are only going up from here, and Meta will have most of the market share (now and then). So, pretty clear that they have started the race and are well in the lead as far as mass normie adoption of VR headsets (even if *for now* most of those buyers are Gen Z'rs and young millenials, with some hobbyist boomers sprinkled in).

>>50981928
>they're never going anywhere.
You would have to make and sell at a loss and by the time you made the market the device would be obsolete. It will survive as a high dollar niche like expsnive game controllers and wired instruments etc but it has no future in the mass market and absolutely no critical application. If it was not for spreadsheets, wordprocessors and printing PCs would have failed if it was njot for email and file/print sharing networks would have. There is absolutely no killer app for VR. yes pornography often drove tech adoption in the past from the internet to VHS BUT we now live in a porn saturated age and it is NOT going to drive VR adoption. Drone piloting MIGHT but that could exist completely without VR and is a far better bed for distribution agriculture, security wildlife management etc

>>50982098
>So, now we have at least two generations exposed to technology, most of whom are on Meta devices due to cost, accessibility, and functionality. From a device adoption perspective, Meta has already laid the groundwork for space domination, and they're just getting started - the meme is only just getting started. The next year or two of technological progress is going to take the Quest to the next level, and invariably the older model will be come even cheaper and more affordability. Sales of VR headsets are only going up from here, and Meta will have most of the market share (now and then). So, pretty clear that they have started the race and are well in the lead as far as mass normie adoption of VR headsets (even if *for now* most of those buyers are Gen Z'rs and young millenials, with some hobbyist boomers sprinkled in).
You're a fucking idiot who was not even born in the 90sn and your insight into tech is nil
>>50982098
>laid the groundwork for space domination
Fucking retard. Its 1 and 0s traveling over TCPIP. Facebook 'owns' fuck all and nothing

Industrial metaverse and digital twins (simulations). You have to think bigger than it being digital playground for retards.

https://youtu.be/xtKn34wYX3k
https://youtu.be/w_yX_Ih1fgE

>>50982039
Those are good sales numbers but that doesn't say anything about how those consumers were using the hardware. VR hasn't solved the motion sickness problem and the grandiose vision Zucc has for VR is at least 20 years off technologically, if not more (photorealistic avatars, replacing flights for business meetings, etc).

>>50982098

Which brings me to my next point: currently VR is perceived as a gaming platform first, which is NOT going to be the case in the next few years and is NOT going to be Meta's primary marketing strategy. As we have already seen in existing VR games, the most popular games are ones that have a SOCIAL element first, and games/creativity as a close second (think VRChat). Now, I don't need to tell you that Meta has demonstrated their tenure for creating social networks - as far as coming up with a killer social VR app/platform, Meta is the horse I would bet on in a heart beat.

Either way, what I'm saying is, when social apps are realized as the "killer app" space for VR, it will not be restricted to nerds, it's going to become normie as fuck. What happened with Facebook, MySpace, Instagram, TikTok, all that shit? Fucking everyone got in there, including boomers. Bam, all of the demographics that restrict the userbase of VR to gamer hobbyists is gone, and VR headset purchases and use goes maintstream

>>50982175
>Industrial metaverse and digital twins (simulations). You have to think bigger than it being digital playground for retards.
Fucking useless compared to AutoCAD for actually doing work. Whack failing arm waving engineer with a lawsuit for neck pain absolutely not needed.

>>50982186
>VR headset purchases and use goes maintstream
Not happening. Sry.

Facebook was a shit company to start with. Social media marketing is shit with terrible return. Spyware pisses people off including people you can't piss off like spooks and governments. Tiktok is the distilled essence of social media and its 80IQ or less because that's the only people who like 'social media' paedophiles and kids yet to discover there is nothing good on 'social media'

>>50977583
Someone on /g/ wrote a MySpace clone a while ago, it's not impossible especially with how many features have been cut from modern Facebook

>>50982266
Fb is a DARPA spook project.

>>50982186

Finally, the last major part of Meta's plan ensure their dominance in the space is not only to develop the "killer app/platform", but to also become the primary trusted VR identity broker within the VR space (across all apps and platforms).

Before I explain what this means, I will illustrate the terrifying reality of social VR engagement and why there is a massive fear factor Meta has identified: stated simply, VR is a unique space in which malicious trolls and pedophiles can go into the next dimension of harassment. Even as we speak, 10 year olds are on VR chat getting molested in their bedrooms. The issue is, that there is little to no true accountability in VR, so little VR timmy is getting VR-raped by a pedo and there's very little protection for him or ability to quickly identify his assailant.

This is going to be a massive barrier for adoption if parents start catching on that their kids are entering a social (and sexual) free for all in social VR spaces, and Meta needs to get ahead of that - fortunately, they are INCREDIBLY well positioned to respond to this issue by being the primary trusted identity broker for apps and platforms on VR -

DUH - they already have everyone's information registered with their facebooks, instagrams, and what the fuck ever - add a little bit of KYC in there to weed out the bots and bam, we have accountability that requires little sign-up or registration on the part of the end user.

Apps and games are going to be hardpressed to adopt the Meta identity as a means to authenticate and use their platforms - if they aren't "Meta Identity Supporting" then they are going to be 4chans of VR and no one is going to go there.

>>50982321


So to wrap up:

Meta created the cheapest, best VR device and sold 16mm in the first year, demonstrating clear consumer demand for a form factor that is finally coming into usability.

Meta will create the first killer VR app, which will NOT be a game, but will be a social platform.

As a means to ensure trust within the VR ecosystem, and address concerns of accountability in a space where digital crime enters (literally) a new dimension, Meta will deploy a Meta Identity function onto its enormous existing userbase as the trusted means of identity and authentication for reputable and respectable apps within the VR space.

>>50977458
Cool, so do it. Idiot.

>>50976596
topkek

>>50976596
>mandatory safe space that doesn't let you get within 5 ft of another person online.
> if you get banned from Facebook for any reason whether it's valid or not your headset is bricked and becomes a $300 paperweight.
> Walled Garden of hardware and software that limits the users' creativity and locks them out of content other people enjoy for free on other VR platforms.
I don't know.

>>50982146

I was born in 92 and am a leader in a technology company. My entire life has been around technology from playing SW Dark Forces and Dune II: Battle for Arrakis with my Dad on a DOS computer, building computers and having LANs over a hub with him (not a router, or a switch, a fucking hub), going to college for technology (obvious at the time, I loved games, loved computers, loved networking) and I mean, now I'm obviously still obsessed. So no, your ad hominem (even if it was relevant) isn't even accurate.

>>50978208
I don't think Facebook/Meta themselves are developing Horizon, just the platform on which Horizon runs on. The crypto scams will likely have their own Horizons on top of the Metaverse that they will be using, unless Horizon pulls a miracle.

>>50982039
Meh. The metaverse is a forced meme. Zucc is blowing money left and right placing gay oculus ads during NFL games. I never sold my META shares. IMO either 1 or 2 things are going to happen after this fiasco. Zucc will learn from this mistake and his shareholders will spare his CEO position or they'll fire him and get bought out by Google since both Google and FB love spying on normies so damn much. Wouldn't even be surprised if Zucc took a backdoor deal with Google and is driving the price of META down on purpose so Google can purchase it for pennies on the dollar because the only people that are truly vested in this shit are Zucc and his sister. Makes ya think. Plus Google buying FB has been a running joke for decades. It would be the perfect monopoly for them to own both YouTube and FB. No reason to sell. FB is still the normie social media GOAT as far as I'm concerned

>>50982313
I always considered that to be google, which also started off as a askjeeves tier piece of PC spyware. Then I realised that no....google may have been allowed to survive but it is the same as all the other post 2000 bogus tech companies, the ones with investment from the big wall street banks and blackrock win, no matter how retarded and useless their shit is. The flow of money into tech got hijacked by coked up morons who have no clue about technology. See AMazon and facebook and this age apple as examples. How many netflicks and appletVs and all the other crap is financially backed by people who don;t even realise that ever singe thing broadcast on them can be watched for free by anyone at any time with less effort than signing up for them? Tech has been coasting fro nearly 25 years now with zero innovation. VR as it exists today was around in 640x800 in the 90s. Zuckerbeg is a code junkie who sniffed his own farts to much and read ready player one and is having a narcissistic collapse. Anyone who invests in facebook is fucking retarded. technology my anus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzJ-P2lcKaY

>>50982339
So to wrap up, stop shilling facebook. If you invested in this shit you are retarded and know nothing about technology. You stink of social media marketing retard with no brains

>>50978414
I think it's about being SEEN in VR and not so much actually using it daily. People will want to be SEEN in their Gucci hoodie avatars for however many minutes.

>>50982396
Yeah, you are fucking idiot child with no insight, understanding or brains. I was working in American Online when you were three.
>>50982396
>My entire life has been around technology
You are just a consumer.

>>50976596
If 9/11 didn't happen in the Zuckerverse why's it full of trannies/faggots and muslims?

No one called Second Life or VR Chat "metaverse" before Meta the company made a forced meme of it.

>>50982438

You're just an angry, cynical misanthrope without any arguments or numbers to back up a single post you've made in this entire thread. Stay poor, stay angry, stay justed friend.

>>50982414
>g is a coke junkie
sry fixed

>>50976596
Corporations need growth, and Zuck pivoted to shit that was supposed to grow, but its gonna take time...long time. Daddy need long time.

>>50982469
I hope when the current VR push dies which I assure you it will except possibly high end steam VR as a niche you can reflect on the fact you got nothing right, nothing. The reason technology died is simply, you and your kind. You destroyed it and it is no surprise that you are sucking the marketing tit of a cancer like facebook.

>>50977712
i've been buying nfts from him for 10 cents. decentraland is complete shit right now, but all that means is that the "swag" aka collectibles on polygon is still cheap with sub-cent gas. i hate this kike and everything facebook already has and will continue to do to humanity, but my god i'm securing my spot innawoods with this gay shit.

>>50982414
Google also have CIA connection from early on.

https://news.crunchbase.com/liquidity/what-big-tech-has-acquired-from-in-q-tel-the-cias-vc-arm/

Zuckerberg is a fucking raging faggot

>>50982495
Facebook is done. It will be bought by someone else later on down the road in its decline. Hard to see who.

>>50981186
I feel like at this point Instagram is their main social network, with Facebook basically taking the back seat. At least Instagram is where all the young people with all the money are at.

>>50982536
>>50982414
>Then I realised that no....google may have been allowed to survive but it is the same as all the other post 2000 bogus tech companies, the ones with investment from the big wall street banks and blackrock win, no matter how retarded and useless their shit is.

>>50982522

You wish technology would die so you won't miss out on anything when your wretched, depressed,
miserable boomer ass heart seizes up and you and all your dumb ass ideas about how "technology is going to die!!!" are dust in the wind.

>>50982580
GenX is not boomer much as you wish it were. Tech is dead. Has been since 2000. Absolutely nothing around today from neural nets to touch screen GSM data phones to VR headsets to the internet to social media to search engines that was not around in the mid 90s. There was a decade of adoption, zero innovation. Tech has utterly collapsed in the last decade. It is a dry tit with absolutely nothing new and mostly increasingly controlling and fruity renditions of what already was

And before someone says bitcoin. One word. Napster.

>>50982565

https://youtu.be/79UeIp3ngjk

this clip reminds me of you:

you're right - people are fucking stupid and social media is fucking retarded
you're right - the awesome wild west, imaginative innovation of tech in the 90s and early 00's is "dead" and now tech is mainstream and becoming an "abomination" as we perceive it

But here's where your wrong, the future doesn't give a shit. Social media will continue to be obsessed over, kids will literally be raised on tiktok, and finally, in 5 years everyone will have a Meta Quest 9 strapped to their heads and Mark Zuckerberg will win again even though he is a fucking martian zoid freak fuck.

So either get on board or get left behind as the smartest cynic in the room who was right but ultimately wrong

>>50977024
i was gonna say this one looks like more of a human than the "real" one kek

>>50982688
Sadly for you I'm not a fucking clone and you have no idea what or who I am but I certainly would never be making a tit of myself on streaming video. That's for the fucking users. (you)
>>50982688
>But here's where your wrong, the future doesn't give a shit. Social media will continue to be obsessed over, kids will literally be raised on tiktok, and finally, in 5 years everyone will have a Meta Quest 9 strapped to their heads and Mark Zuckerberg will win again even though he is a fucking martian zoid freak fuck.
Facebook and him are the number one target for regulators and governments and political parties worldwide. Just as Bill Gates and Steve Case were in their day. Brick wall. Difference with him is he was never technology and still is not. He's just a blank chequebook to buy pre installs on mobiles and a spyware company in decline. He can't afford to make and sell the hardware at a loss to create a platform and even if he could strapping shit to your head will never be mass appeal, it is gpu dependent and the hardware is too expensive to give away at a loss. It is not innovative, VR exactly like this was around in 1995 at lowere resolution and second life is around for years and no one gives a shit. 'meta' is what happens when an idiot consumes to much cocaine and starts sniffing his own farts. He got to be the walled garden for mobile phones as AOL was for PCs. That's over now. So is facebook and it was SHIT

>>50982649
you are a retard, you pretend as though gpt3, google translate etc. don't exist. Of course technology is progressing

>>50982414
>zero innovation in 25 years
but muh AGI < 10 years self aware cloud nanomachine virus

>>50981186
>They're basically on their way to become the next Snap
why, what happened to Snap?

>>50977403
“Me and my fellow moist humans enjoy charred flesh for subsistence like human generation 72 once did”

>>50982879
I don't want to dox myself but believe me I saw that in labs in 1993 via three lawyer neural nets including hooking them up to CMOS and the usual training and dreamscapes etc. I'll get in trouble if I say more. Anyway. No it is not particularly new.

>>50982967
>lawyer
layer. my brain was considering implication of posting anything doxable. Neural nets have been running on PCs since the 386DX. fact

>>50977403
>His avatar is the most realistic part of the meta verse.
>Not everyone’s. Just his.
The skin tone is not green enough

>>50976596
The graphics are shitty because that's the fucking tradeoff for now you retards. You really think people are going to use VR headsets that require a PC with a top tier graphics card?

Of course not.

Mass adoption will occur thru wireless standalone units that are obviously going to be less graphically powerful. Overtime the hardware will improve but it's not fucking critical like faggots on this board will have you believe.

>>50978645
This. It could actually work in a white-only utopia but otherwise it doesn't make sense. Unironically tech billionaires need to swallow the red pill and go 1488, they will create better zogbots that way.

>>50981763
It's just softening the subconcious. Nobody knows this shit. But everyone knows 'it's coming'

>>50981763>>50983082

>What is the 'main' metaverse?
You are already in it.

>>50982967
Neural nets are already being developed in a tangential curve inside Silicon Valley's black box projects. It's an egregore that feeds freely from data from the internet

>>50983101
Data from the internet is kinda pointless. They were eating data from our reality initially, CCTV footage and Ariel imagery. Lexical analysis is if anything more badly done it is just plastered over with increased resources. The internet is a bag of puke as learning material for an AI. I just had a wonderful idea that I won;t implement or tell anyone because metaturd was right about one thing about me, I don;t hate people though, I hate tech was a well meaning mistake and but has been a disaster. I 100% regret by fairly big hand in the internet and operating systems. It has brought pornography to children, adultery to family homes, the government to everyone's pocket and cancer like Zuckerberg to the world. This is NOT what we a. Not this shit. ll hoped for. I though that it would be cool like a star trek communicator that could diagnose someone in an emergency and save their life. No.. they would likely die because of a subscription error in some shit copypasted by an indian with a fake CV because some fat baldy fuck who knew people on wallstreet outsour5ced his cock washing. The only bit of it that is even well written is for blowing people up. Fuck minsky was right. I said it. He was though

>>50982175
What seems really fishy to me is that even competing companies like Microsoft are using the word "Metaverse" to describe their VR/AR products. No company would describe their new social media platform with "Faceboookverse" or a new phone OS "Androidverse".
Anyways, the whole AR application in manufacturing and/or business has been shilled since early 2010s and nothing has come of it yet. The only cool thing they are able to show are useless 3D renders of an artists vision.
The reality is that VR is clunky and straining. It would be impossible for a wagie to sit around and use a AR headset for 8h/day.

I am bull on Meta.
Zuck is three steps ahead on every aspect.
The risk is really regulation and anti-trust.
The feds have shown that they aren't afraid to bully Facebook in particular and this could pose a real risk

>>50983354
Of course you are 'bull on meta'. You're a simpleton who does not understand technology, knows it but dammit that won't stop you thinking your opinion i8s as valid as anyone elses will it?. Fuck this gay earth.

>>50976596
>zuck
>>50983386
>Fuck this gay earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rNgCnY1lPg

>>50983414
For all the reporting about the 50th anniversary reunion dustup, an odd twist to the Harvard Unabomber story has not been mentioned: During Kaczynski’s sophomore year at Harvard, in 1959, he was recruited for a psychological experiment that, unbeknownst to him, would last three years. The experiment involved psychological torment and humiliation, a story I include in my book Mind Wars: Brain Research and the Military in the 21st Century.

The Harvard study aimed at psychic deconstruction by humiliating undergraduates and thereby causing them to experience severe stress. Kaczynski’s anti-technological fixation and his critique itself had some roots in the Harvard curriculum, which emphasized the supposed objectivity of science compared with the subjectivity of ethics. Before his arrest, he demanded that The Washington Post and The New York Times publish a 35,000-word manifesto called “Industrial Society and Its Future,” a document that expressed his philosophy of science and culture.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/ie/blog/impromptu-man/201205/harvards-experiment-the-unabomber-class-62

>>50983386
Try me retard. Or will that distract you too much from your blog posting in this thread?

>>50983331
https://youtu.be/vzgutG4ppWA

>>50983561

>>50983605
We get it... you're a boomer.
I'm sorry sir but those damn kids won't be getting off your lawn

>>50983654
I did not need to show you are an asian manlet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NelBNtNm8l0

>>50977030
I mean, I wouldn't invest in them on purely moral grounds. They're so revolting that the thought of a single dollar of mine being given to them to build anything makes me sick

>>50983603
Why should this be only avaible through VR and not some wagie sitting behind a desktop computer? This shit won't catch on and will be replaced with actually useful desktop applications.

>>50976596
Timing is everything, you have to get in early and be there with infrastructure ready for when the technology is ripe. Then you monopolize the market. Most companies struggle to stay solvent waiting for technology to take off facebook wont have that problem. People thought amazon was a bloated shitshow 15 years ago.

Their fall is attracting massive sharks.
USA japan companies are just waiting to tear them apart.

>>50983722
checked. i thought the same thing about moderna and phizer but now i just realize i have to capitalize on something and not be victim to it

>>50976646
The technology has been ready for consumption since 1999. This is just a shit product

>>50982313
Based

>>50980130
But Facebook is dying. I used to have hundreds of friends, they were all real life friends that I hung out with, saw at parties, and clubs.
They’d post pics, their art, memes, reposts, etc. al, the time. I could go on and see a pulse of my social life.
Now barely anyone posts, lots have deactivated, more just don’t log in, and the few remaining I’ve had to unfollow because they only post about whatever the virtue signal of the week is

>>50982983
Yes boomer AI knowledge has been around a long time. Since the 70s, even. But that doesn't mean the field isn't growing beyond what was figured out back then. There are a couple of private companies doing shit that would've been unimaginable back then. The priorities are completely different now, there's new tech being built to aid AI that nobody could've predicted back then beyond really vague conjectures. Something like Cerebras' ML accelerators would've been unthinkable in the 70s, 80s, 90s and even 2000s on economic reasons alone. The AI research winter has been over for many years now.

>>50977403
So he's a charcoal man. There's hope for the Zuck yet.

I will never by Zucks stock. I will never by Elons. I will never by Intuit.

That's my ESG. feel free to add shit companies.

>>50983722
That’s not how it works. You buy shares on the secondary market. The money doesn’t go to them.

>>50977018
>Zuckerberg spending billions to make Second Life v2.0

>>50976596

>>50976596
Which metaverse did it better?

>>50981616
I think one is charcoal and the other is propane. You know some things taste better with charcoal.

>>50987260
Zuck would be cool if he just started trolling hard like Elon