/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>50944250
we revolted over a fucking tea tax but won't do shit against arguably one of the worst tax systems in history, god americans are so cucked

>>50944250
Founding fathers would have killed because of this shit.

>>50944250
>35% marginal federal tax
i make $95k a year and and it's like 14% for federal, 6.2% for social security, and 1.5% for medicare. wtf are you doing?

>>50944250

I unironically paid over 100k in taxes last year. Imagine how many shaniquas I fed with that

>>50944279
>>50944297
There was literally a point in history where it was culturally appropriate to go
>YE KILL EM
and actually follow through with it. We have devolved since then to become a much, much less confrontational people.

>>50944356
You should kill yourself faggot
>>50944358
Just say slaves for fuck sake. You are slaves
S L A V E S
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>>50944333
checked. 95k is the new 40k btw. If you make real money you get hit with real taxes. Try throwing in 250k into a tax calculator for CA or NY.

>>50944250
kill all the politicians bankers lawyers and jews in minecraft

>>50944250
>5 cents per plastic bag at the grocery store

is this becoming common? I thought it was just a Minneapolis thing

inb4 >living in murderapolis

>>50944279
It's no longer just few redcoats with muskets that you have to face. This is literally the most evil and powerful government in history of mankind and your shitty ar15s dont stand a chance and the people know it that's why they don't fight. There's no way organize without being completely shut down or infiltrated

>>50944250
>200k salary software dev
>effectively 100k after taxes in CA
>3k/month apt
>3k/month other expenses

im only saving 30k/year. im just a pampered serf. ill never be rich. i create more wealth in this world than 99.9% of people and ill never be wealthy myself. this system is truly corrupt

>>50944427

Every Democrat controlled hellhole is starting to do this

>>50944250
It simple. You learn skill, you talk to a financial advisor to set up a corporation that work right with you, then you pay as little taxes as possible. Wagies will always be the ones paying tax. Not only will you make more money by running your own business, but you can pay less taxes also.

What good will lowering taxes do?

>>50944438

Low salary for anyone in CA tech unless fresh out of school. Try to get something 350+ if you have at least 3-4 yoe. Personally would not live in CA ever.

>t. 300k dev in much cheaper area

>>50944436
It's not that AR15 or any other gun toy doesn't stand a chance, people are not going to do shit because the current zeitgeist is the most castrated piece of crap i've ever seen and people inside of it are too complacent, otherwise you wouldn't even need weapons.

>>50944387
i plan on coping and buying a $130k house in flyover county with a massive down payment and paying it off in like 2-3 years. i should be living like a flyover king real soon.

>>50944438
don't listen to this guy he's incredibly poor >>50944478
>t. 900k dev in an even cheaper area

>>50944436
>and your shitty ar15s dont stand a chance
They seemed to work perfectly in Ukraine, you stupid nigger.

>>50944669
What’s going on in Ukraine?

>>50944669
How does it feel being this retarded ?

>>50944250
stop being poor lmao

>>50944436
Oh please
The government is so big and powerful that they spent 20 years in Afghanistan running around like a headless chicken for nothing, and spent $2 trillion doing it
Asymmetric risk

It's not that the US is so powerful it can't be fought, it's that none of its fat citizens want to fight at all

>>50944250
Yea but it all goes to free education now due to student loan forgiveness so it’s good for the country in the long run

>>50944250
I know it sucks but you ever been to Europe or Canada? They are worse.

>>50944387
>>50944438

I live in CA and make over 200k. Taxes are not that bad. If you make over 100k and you don't know about tax credits as well as other tax shelters then you really do not deserve to make it.

t. have a non profit where I shelter my property

>>50945486
You think that wasn't by design? Infinite army budget, infinite human trafficking, make believe "problems".

>>50945486
Afghanistan was never an issue, the whole point of that shit was to wash and launder money...They could have glassed the entire dessert if they wanted to and have it over with in a day.

>anons whining about making 200k being a software nigger

Techfags and jeets should have been mass executed after the release of windows 2000 and let the tech bubble crash so hard to kill FAGMAN for eternity.

>>50944438
Kek I Make 50k a year and put away the same

>>50945687
So are you arguing they'll glass the midwest?

>>50944591
please stay on the coast. you're not wanted here

>>50946569
>he thinks i mean the midwest
kek god no, i would never step foot in that shithole. i'm talking rural north central/north eastern pennsylvania (my hometown.)

>>50944250
We have to pay for the niggers anon.

>>50944591
>$130k house in flyover county
This isn't 2011 retard

>>50946648
why though

>>50944250
Weimar be like

>>50946688
i'm looking at zillow right now, niggerlips.

>>50944250
an unprecedented percentage of the American population is completely and irreversibly cuckolded by leaders that have convinced them "taxes are good" while those same leaders just absolutely squander our country's wealth and prosperity

this can only end well!

>>50944250
>5% of your car value every year
What hellhole of a state charges you a property tax on your automobile?

>>50944358
>>50944436
The problem is institutionalized power

>>50945068
Holy fuck you must love the taste of rubber

I make $160k a year after bonuses, but my burn rate is 9k a month with a family of 3. Includes maxing my Roth every month, 1 car payment and my mortgage.

>Americans think their taxes are high

>>50946688
>>50946910

>>50944250

You forgot inflation taxing any savings as well. And any fines or tickets you receive.

>>50944427
>>50944443
In NJ you can't even buy plastic bags, they're just outright banned. I wouldn't even mind paying extra for the plastic bag, it's an inconvenience but fuck it.

>>50944333
Not being poor.

>>50945542
Tell me more. How do you shelter property with a nonprofit?

>>50944356
You didn't feed anyone, it's for the military industrial complex. The secret is to work for a company that provides services to the M.I.C., as it's like a money loop where you keep getting more from what you put in. This is the best copium.

americans are the dumbest cretins on the planet, gaslighted into thinking their the smartest and richest. very dumb and cowardly creatures gaslighted into hating each other by their slaveowners, did I mention how dumb they are.

>>50947401
Most of the US' military industrial complex is a socio-economic and training program that is more akin to welfare than a functional military force. It's just more palatable to the American public in terms of spending and easier to embezzle and skim funds off of for ulterior motives.

Shaniqua is just wearing a uniform and doing some busy work.

>>50944614
Don’t listen to this guy he’s incredibly poor
>1.8m /yr programmer living on Offshore drilling rig

>>50944250
>35% tax bracket
>FICA

Nigga, you passed the cap on that tax and it’s probably 2-3% of your total income

>>50946924

Virginia

>>50944297
They knew the british were fucking with them.

>>50944436
Yeah the same government that won in Vietnam and Afghanistan

>>50944250
if you follow history, it was democrats who first introduced federal income tax. why? because they wanted to create social programs and the federal government before 1913 was small. they wanted bigger government.
if you cant see where this is going, politicians want more taxes and MMT to create a larger and more powerful government. why? dependence on the state and authoritarian control.

>>50944250
>he thinks it’s 50%
it’s more like 99% if you consider all the transactions on the way to your transaction
it’s actually approaching infinity

>>50947436
It's truly horrifying yet fascinating.

>>50947436
post country

>>50948397
And that's just nominal. Factor in the added tax of inflation and how inflation makes you pay additional capital gains taxes on everything you own even when nothing is actualyl going up in real value.
>Own shitty used car
>inflation
>When sell used car have to pay "capital gains" tax because inflation was so high even though the car is obviously worth less than when I bought it

stop whining about it you ppl love being a slave

>>50944438

>create
>wealth
>retard

yeah it checks out

>>50948656

>>50946588
No really, please stay on the coast. We're full.

>>50944279
No, you didnt do shit. The average muttoid in 1770s was just as lazy and content as everyone is today. The "revolution" was entirely a businessmen's enterprise, it obviously worked, but the "people" never did anything at any point in history.

>>50944250
Wait until you find out how much the boss steals from you

>>50944436
>>50944508
>>50946949
All of these are symptoms of the true problem.

The real problem is fairly simple: feminism and non white immigration.

The true issue is that women were given the right to vote and were pushed into the workforce. When that happened, America and the West was doomed. When women were given the vote, power was shifted from men (masculine energy) to the feminine (female energy)

Since feminine energy is non confrontational, malleable, and passive, so has society become. Men gave up their duties as protectors and providers as women slowly took up the workforce until we have the clown society we have today, with more women in college and in the corporate workforce, many making more money than men.

This is an affront to the natural order of things where men should be providing for their families and dealing with the building of civilization, while women deal with the building of families.

Since men have no investment in society, society crumbles as a result.

Add onto this the fact that the West has been infiltrated by nonwhites, further atomizing society, and you have a recipe for disaster. Societies are no longer homogenous, and Whites hate each other, are forced to compete with one another, don't have any in-group preference.

So again, there is no investment into their society. Men don't care, female energy runs the show and allow the powers that be to do whatever they want.

>>50944250
just move

>>50948656
>can't form a counter argument so begs for an ad hominem target
oh no no no

>>50944333
Marginal rate is the amount paid at his bracket. Means he's earning high six figures. His effective rate is probably still close to mid 20s though.

>>50944669
You're retarded. Ukraine only has a fighting chance because of the billions of dollars of anti tank weapons the US gov is sending to them. Not even remotely comparable.

Syscon just hit Lunar Crush's number one of recent with more people curious about what is being built than ever before. The company has proven resilience in ALL market conditions over the years. It’s here to stay.

taxes are priced in

>>50951950
It was built on a propaganda campaign of "freedom" or whatever because the wealthy had to pay taxes. Guess what they don't have to do anymore thanks to international Jewery

>>50953933
There are just 8 large manufacturers of amored fighting vehicles and tanks remaining in the west. There's general dynamics, BAE, Nexter, Leonardo, Rheinmetall, Krauß-Maffei-Wegmann and Hyundai. The us sources most of their vehicles from General Dynamics and BAE systems (Oshkosh and others for light vehicles). All those are civilian companies with regular workers and engineers working for them. The military simply doesn't have the capability to sustain its massive force without civilians which produce the armaments, ammo and spare parts.

>>50944436
Everytime a guy with some shitty AR-15 actually uses it the govt enforcers piss and shit their pants in fear. Mass shootings, retards that decide to shoot theur way out of an arrest attempt, people that respond to swat raids as if they were burglaries, every single time the cops are getting utterly fucking destroyed.

It's not that the govt is undefeatable, people simply refuse to admit they lead fairly comfortable lives and won't throw those comforts away to fight.

>>50944358
White people's IQs have risen away from the current black IQ of 85 making them too interested in low time preference/impulse behaviors. Sociologists and historians have long noted that successful revolutions need an edge to them: a group of low impulse motherfuckers who radicalize the rest and kick things off. This board's alienation and derision for groups like blacks is a key example of how whites will remain cucked until they are bred away into a great yellow mass in the 2100s.

I began browsing /pol/ since 2012 but I wouldn't believe how every board since then has begun redpilling and informing people on basic truth. It's like people congregate on truth alone if they have nothing to fear and lose. Anonymous imageboards rules.

>>50944250
Cattle needs a shepherd.

>The maximum total tax rate on one individual in the communist soviet union was 15%

>>50955405
100 million dead out of my ass
Your statement is invalid

>>50944333
As a single if you make more than 125 the effective rate is in fact 35% fed if taking the general.

>>50955405
15% of zero is still zero

>>50944250
Excuse me, sir. But how else are we supposed to pay for Sheniqua and her 7 kids from 6 different fathers? Lord knows Tyrone, Tyrese, Jamal, Dayquan, D'marcus, and Marquavius don't have jobs or pay child support. Oh yeah, we have to support them and their new baby mamas also. Taxes it is!

>>50955555
no it's not. look up the brackets for single. 35% is $216k to $540k bucket.

>>50955555
Holy quints. Chek'd.

>>50944459
This. Advisors and businesses are underrated. The American system is designed specifically to be friendly to business owners and self employed mercenaries, so go be one

>>50944250
Lmao just don't be poor!
Fuck being American.

>>50944279
Because you retards fucked everything up for everyone else.

>>50947886
>Muh British!
The British were busy fighting to keep the east Indian company to care about mutts.

>>50948656
Okay shart Inna mart.

>>50954346
>low time preference/impulse behaviors
Underaged Chud retard detected.
If you're going to parrot >>>/pol/ talking points you should just go back to that board, especially since you don't even know what the meanings are behind the terms you are using.
>Low time preference is a term generally used in economics or evolutionary psychology to describe an individual that places emphasis on long-term gains, is able to delay gratification, make sacrifices, and live in a future oriented fashion.

You have to be 18+ to post on 4chan.

>>50951950
Thank you.

>>50944476
Make you keep more of your money.
If you don't want your money, you can give it to me

>>50944436
Listen, you fantastically retarded motherfuckers. I'm going to try to explain this so that you can understand it.
You cannot control an entire country and its people with tanks, jets, battleships and drones or any of these things that you so stupidly believe trumps citizen ownership of firearms.
A fighter jet, tank, drone, battleship or whatever cannot stand on street corners and enforce "no assembly" edicts.
A tank cannot kick down your door at 3AM and search your house for contraband.

None of these things can maintain the needed police state to completely subjugate and enslave the people of a nation.

Those weapons are for decimating, flattening, and glassing large areas and many people at once and fighting other state militaries.

The government does not want to kill all of its people and blow up its own infrastructure. These are the very things they need to be tyrannical assholes in the first place.

If they decided to turn everything outside of Washington D.C. into glowing green glass they would be the absolute rulers of a big, worthless, radioactive pile of shit.

Police are needed to maintain a police state, boots on the ground.

And no matter how many police you have on the ground they will always be vastly outnumbered by civilians which is why in a police state it is vital that your police have automatic weapons while the people have nothing but their limp dicks.

BUT when every random pedestrian could have a Glock in their waistband and every random homeowner an AR-15 all of that goes out the fucking window because now the police are outnumbered and face the reality of bullets coming back at them.

If you want living examples of this look at every insurgency that the U.S. military has tried to destroy.
They're all still kicking with nothing but AK-47s, pick up trucks and improvised explosives because these big scary military monsters you keep alluding to are all but fucking useless for dealing with them.

Dumb. Fuck.

>>50953383
It's impressive, isn't it? An entire civilization and race destroyed in 100 years

>>50944438
I make almost the same amount in metro Atlanta, Georgia and have 85k to invest or do whatever with after living expenses and taxes. California is so fucked lol

>>50956694
Wow you are so smart. Nobody else thinks like you. I guess you should be the one to lead by firing the first shot!
Fucking moron.

>>50956893
private firearms ownership is intended as a deterrent so that nobody has to fire a shot. what do you think the second amendment is about, the right to shoot paper targets and hunt turkeys?

>>50956952
What exactly do you think >>50956694
Was proposing?

>>50945542
>t. have a non profit where I shelter my property
charitable remainder trust?

>>50944250
Nobody on /biz/ is paying 50% taxes. Most 'people' here are NEET losers, leeching off the work of others.

>>50945515
No way, I've lived in Russia for 3 years. It's way better
The thing about Eastern European countries is that they can't enforce literally ANY laws

>>50956694
the problem with this pasta is that it assumes 100% of the population will be 100% hostile to the government

>>50957527
You don't think the police would think twice about enforcing the tyrant's wishes if there was even a 5% chance he would get capped when busting into someone's house?

Americans are a bunch of bootlickers who always support the police even in the most agregious acts. It's like a one in ten million chance that anyone stands up for their rights.

>>50948716
All countries suck the Jewish cock and are controlled by elite Jews though

>>50944250
The most successful trader of wall street gained 60% every year compunded throughout his career. But here's the catch: after fees and taxes it was just 30%. So how much did he X? Well guess what.... 100x. Feeling happy yet? Now time to make you pissed. Without the fees and taxes he would be ....wait for it.....10000x. are you fuming now? Invent a time travel machine and ask that Roman king to finish his job with the jjews

>>50947032
Hello fellow 570er

>>50944427
I bring my own bags
I tell them to put it back on the cart when i check out, then i put it on my own reusable bags when i get out to the car
>they get assmad every time

>>50944356
Probably not even one anon when you take all the gibs into account

You have roads, parks,free ER and the most advanced judiciary in return. Stop whining.

>>50956695
>not posting the real pic

>>50953383
This

>>50944250
Do something about it

>>50944250
Boomers were and are RICH so why should they give a damn?

These niggas really shifted the burden of taxation from rich international businessmen to the common working man and this country didn't fucking blink

Now they've got their goycattle bristling at the mere mention of "tariffs" or "protectionism", well done retards!

>>50960717
The country is majority Mexican and can't even read

What the fuck do Spics know about economy or finance?

Taxes are literally stopping us from becoming a space traveling civilization. Imagine where we could be without them. The total tax rate of most countries is between 40 and 50%. If instead of burning all that economic output we reinvest it. It compounds each year and withing two decades the world would be completely different, with everyone being insanely rich.

But no, gotta give our shit to the government so these corrupt assholes can have nice dinners I guess.

>>50944250
this is your god
they got you by the balls

Just live in rural europe where nobody fucking cares about your taxes and trade shitcoins (like vinu or avax) and scalp btc and be happy

>>50961799
avalanche is NOT a shitcoin...

>>50960778