/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>50900805
I wear my Rolex everyday.

It tells me the time.

Like dog with bat I’m never selling.

Why the fuck would you still wear a watch anyway

>>50900819
Zoomer fucking moron

>>50900824
He's got a point: why would you care about watches if you're under 60?

>>50900805
>>50900815
>>50900824
I know a faggot when I see one.

>>50900819
>>50900847
>they don't get it
enjoy your autism

>>50900881
Yea, you get it once you're 65.

>>50900824
I'm still waiting for an answer nigger.

>inb4 some quasi-convoluted bullshit about watches being the accesoires of every le heckerino serious businessmen and dodging the fact that they're just simple fashion tools and used for flexing

>>50900881
>>50900865
>>50900847
They are insecure and crave social status. They'd wear jewelry and purses if it was sociably acceptable.

>>50900920
>they're just simple fashion tools and used for flexing
oh hey so you're not autistic congrats. you get it. so whats the problem? some people like watches and also they can wear them for fashion and flexing. so what dont you get?

i like watches, they fascinate me. especially mechanical and automatic watches. the intricate clockwork is like art and i appreciate the aesthetic beauty. i wear it because i think it looks good, and it lets me know the time without having to reach into my pocket to drain my battery. its a tool and its art on the wrist.

if that doesnt appeal to you no problem, but at least you get it now

>>50900920
I mean ideally it’s the same as anything else.

Why have a nice car,nice clothes,nice house or look presentable?or even just taking pride in yourself?
Uh you wouldn’t get it.

doesn't need batteries, won't track and report your location at all times to the five eyes surveillance state. keeps time at a glance. looks neat. nice aesthetics. appreciating the beauty in it for the satisfaction that brings.

the anger some people have about other people wearing watches is amusing though. it's like socks with sandles

real wealth means not caring about what fucking time of day it is

>>50901048
i'm a poorfag wearing a seiko, it was never about real wealth or the flex for me

i lied im wearing a timex i cant afford a seiko yet, one day

even as a poorfag though there are some really nice automatic watches under $500 i could aspire to own one day realistically.

>>50900989

there's a beauty in mass production, in simplicity and affordability. to make something cheap but with so much value for dollar that its actually impressive. im more impressed with value for dollar watches then raw dollar watches. a rolex is nice but a lot of the cost is down to the name and the deliberate scarcity.
>poorfag watch cope i know but also im not wrong

>>50901132
>Seiko_35A
the first mass production quartz watch movement, very impressive engineering with historical importance. nice

>>50901132
heres the watch it was in, the seiko quartz astron, 1969. a very attractive watch

>>50900929
All I do is just watch the direction of shadows and the position of the sun, and that's the most boomer thing to do.

>>50901196
>>50901132
Cute!

>>50900805
Uh oh

Might be a sign that even most rich people will not be safe from the incoming depression and hyperinflation. Its gonna be one hell of an economic ride in 2023.

>>50900815

How can I keep track of the Rolex market?

>>50900989
You still have a cellphone in your pocket at all times you fucking queer.

>>50902073
>being this mad at watches
lol

>>50900847
some greasy persian conman on youtube told em it'd help em get pussy

instead they sit around talking watches with other autists

>>50900920
I wear a casio because I don't want to pull my phone out whenever I want to know the time.

>>50901196
looks like some shit a poor wife who suffers from domestic violence would wear

Watches are comfy
>simple as

i bought a cheap casio after not wearing a watch for decades. after 2 weeks i felt naked without it. its incredible how often you actually want to check the time. also use the stopwatch daily

>>50900805
>>50901509
It just means 2nd hand market will pump. Time to sell.

>>50902420
> its incredible how often you actually want to check the time

thats an awful habit

I don't have a watch because I have nowhere to be, I also don't have a phone because I have noone to call.

>>50902146
men used to wear smaller watches. a small watch was a flex because they were more difficult and expensive to make before quartz. and women wore watches even smaller then that. but then women wanted to wear man sized watches to be like the men. so men had to start wearing even bigger watches. it became something of an arms race with men and women wearing bigger and bigger watches until it culminated in watches that were obnoxiously large being the dominant fashion for men and women. then the phone came and most people stopped wearing watches, this ended the watch arms race.

so men started with too small watches for the flex. and then went to overly large watches over time to compete with the ladies getting larger watches. and now finally men are going to watches that actually fit whatever size their wrists are, especially with information online available about how to find the right size for your wrists. we've seen a resurgence in recent years of watches under 40mm case size since men no longer have to wear giant watches to prove something and since so many men have smaller wrists and own it instead of being in denial about it and trying to wear too big watches.

>>50900920
Why get a car when you can take public transport or ride a bike? Why cook other meals when you can live off bread and water? Why this, why that? Why did your mother pick a faggot to breed you when she could have gone for a Chad?

>>50900847
whores

>>50902709
i suspect part of the popularity in recent years of japanese watches, isn't just the value for dollar, but also the case sizes. since japanese tend to be smaller in general the japanese watches were already small at a time when western watch makers were still making the slow transition to the newer smaller fashions. but now everyone, even rolex, is making size appropriate watches.

it's a great time for automatic watches, quartz is no longer the exciting new thing, and people are finally over their phones and going nostalgic for the age of the watch, and for that full nostalgia and feel they want proper clockwork without even a battery. a rekindled appreciation for the art of mechanical beauty. meanwhile automatic watches never stopped slowly evolving over the years and can be mass produced with quality and features at lower prices then ever before. it is truly a new golden age for the automatic watch.

>>50902785
not to mention the internet making watch talk and sharing of information. buying watches online and not just whatevrs in store helping smaller brands, and great looking size appropriate to the wrist watches back in fashion.

https://www.youtube.com/c/TeddyBaldassarre
this guy makes great watch videos, probably my favorite watchtuber though there are a lot of them now

>>50900805
Luxury watchfags are like vegans in that they not only do it, but can't stfu about it. These days I counter with riveting tales about my carrots and leaks.

>>50900847
Same question why would you care about what car you drive? Npcs understand perfectly subconsciously how they have to play the game to get vagina. Personally I think watches look classy and compliment a civilized man’s attire.

>>50900805
does this mean, a new 10000€ Oyster Steel Submariner is possible again?

>>50900805
Am I the only one who considers the addition of date to ruin the esthetics of watches? Give me a normal watch with three handles and nothing more.

>>50901148
The expensive ones are hand made

>>50902867
Yeah... I drive to Ford from the 90s. Every time it breaks I always end up fixing it myself for cheap. I'm to cheap to buy something new and to stubborn to give up fixing it. Luckily my girlfriend's parents drive an older car than me so she doesn't think I'm weird.

>>50902709
Holy shit that’s exactly what happened with phones. Dumb cunts started buying enormous phones they couldn’t fit in their pockets or in some cases even in their purses. Those dumb cunts NEVER know when to stop unless men force them.

>>50900847
You can't see the sun and live as a mole person.

>>50902903

You aren't. Many of the most asecthitic and pleasing watches have no date function.

My 1963 1016 Explorer.

Something truly horrendous and sickening Is the new right handed GMT sprite.

Crown and date window on the opposite side. It is unsettling.

>>50902146
>poor wife
she deserved it faggot simp

>>50900951
>Why have a nice car,nice clothes,nice house or look presentable?
All of those have some actual functionality, rather than some redundant accessory. It's like the anon said, a luxury watch is to literally show off wealth, but it's one of the most inefficient ways to do so.

>>50902907
and they have to be. there are watches worth their price on the craftsmanship alone that are quite expensive. there are still limits as to what can be mass produced. and it takes years of dedication to learn the craft. for sure. but take rolex for example, their watches are largely machine made, great watches, wonderful engineering don't get me wrong, but the price could be lower if they wanted to make more but they artificially control the scarcity on their very in demand watches which deliberately inflates the price. a lot of luxury brands do this.

>>50900819
My phone and the OtterBox case it is in weights too much for me to want to carry it around when I don't need to do I don't and wear a watch to keep track of time.

>>50902967
What companies would you recommend?

>>50902942
it tells the time without having to reach into your pocket. personally i find reaching for my phone, turning it on, draining the battery, then shoving it back in my pants to be more of a hassle then a quick glance at a watch. is it necessary to have a watch? no, but its not without function either. also i often don't carry my phone, unless im expecting a call or expecting to get lost i don't really need it.

>>50902987
can't help you there i'm afraid, most of my watch research has been on the cheaper end of the spectrum. i've seen some youtube videos of watchmakers at work and the effort and skill that goes into some of those high end pieces though.

>>50902942
Everything in moderation. A new Toyota is nice and if taken care of will have the least breakdowns of any other car brands. However someone buying a new audi suv. They are just showing off.

If I'm putting my own money down for a car I'm buying the Toyota 9 out of 9 times. But if I'm receiving a new car yeah I'll pick a flashy super car.

>>50903007
What cars does the government buy for themselves?

>>50903019
The ones with the best lobbyists

>>50900819
>>50900847
Because watch tells people your social status and you can speak with people who aren't totally cretins and have some information + you can fuck girls.

Better than average quality girls only fuck with man who has some money. You know its not a bad thing for fun and she thinks if she accidentally get pregnant its safe because there is money.

For example I like fine Jewish eastern euro girls, they don't even speak with you without a few million dollars. Don't even look at you...

>>50903019
And government officials don't make their own money. They steal it.

>>50903042
That’s my point. I’m curious what cars they buy for themselves

>>50903038
the fakes on the market these days you cannot tell them apart without being extremely experienced or having the original on hand for a direct comparison. a patek phillipe nautilus, a $60,000 watch, an amazing fake can be had for a few hundred. and she'll never know.

>luxury
>watch

>>50903038
>they don’t even look at you
Well they should’ve if they’re anted to avoid my acid surprise.

>>50900805
>4000ft
Such abaurd, tasteless excess.
Anyway mods are asleep, post watches.

>>50903038
>you can fuck girls
What's in it for me though?

>>50900805
>even lockdown psychos Australia and NZ are overrun with covid, chinks still trying to eradicate a virus that's already all over the world a million times over.

what did the chinks mean by this?

>>50903075
i hear you man, that's why i'm all about value for dollar and not paying money just for the name. i want every dollar to go into the craftsmenship of the watch itself. but since i cannot afford i mostly look at lower end watches. also i prefer minimalism to complications generally and the high price watches worth the dollar typically involve intricate complexities beyond the capability of a mass production machine built movement. luxury watches have a lot of your dollar going into the name, but that does have an advantage if you're trying to flex on women, the woman has to recognize the name for the flex to work. and if you're paying good money you want to flex on ladies nothing wrong with that, perfectly natural.

>>50903101
i'm not into quartz or plastic but this watch really speaks to me with its absolute minimalism and reliability, incredible value for dollar. the only issue and the reason i don't own one is they only make 2 versions, one version too small for my tastes and one version too large. if they had a middle sized id buy one without hesitation.

Fuck watches, they make your wrists stink like shit because all the dead skin/bacteria builds up around it wrist where you keep the watch on, no to mention all the dead skin and bacteria that ends up on the watch, and it just fucking stinks

You can tell someone is a watchcel by the fact their have a stench of death on their wrists

>>50902987
Rolex is the king of luxury watches. They're independent and privately owned (by a charity no less) and have consistently great quality throughout their history.
They're not the best in the strict sense of
>this is the highest level of horology you can possibly own
but they're are the best semi-mass produced watches in the world. They're built like tanks and you can beat the absolute fuck out of them, wear them in the shower, go in salt water, smack your wrist against things, etc. without it missing a beat.

The other side is that they tend to retain value very well, are fairly liquid, and (outside of the recent "maxi-case" trend which I despise) have a conservative design philosophy so that their watches look similar to each other for decades.

Buying new is retarded but you can get models from roughly 1990-2005 which are on the lower end of their depreciation curve so it's the sweet spot in terms of getting a good deal (and potentially making money if you want to sell it years later). Also it's before they switched to the maxi-case designs and added the stupid
>ROLEX ROLEX ROLEX
rehaut markings around the inside perimeter under the crystal.

Grand Seikos are nice too but outside of the "name brand" models like the Snowflake they tend to be really soft on the used market. Patek Philippe is much more expensive but their quality has gone sharply downhill over the last 30 years and they're no longer worth the price at all (even by watch snob standards, you would be better off with a Lange). Patek's big advantage though is like Rolex they are very collectible and easy to sell.

>>50900819
It's jewelry for man at this point. I always cringe when see people with watches these days.

>>50900989
>doesn't need batteries
yet it needs constant adjustments and never tells time correctly, chink powerty miband keeps time way better than this "device" dedicated for timekeeping.

No one can tell the difference between a 30,000$ Rolex and a good 300$ replica, especially not women.

>>50903178
You wear watches for other man to see not for woman.

>>50903151
you know you can wipe down the strap now and again and wash your hands its not really an issue unless the guy never washes his wrists or his strap. but for this reason i tend to prefer silicone thats easily washed, or steel thats easily wiped down, or a nato strap i can toss in the wash. leather is fine but not ideal if you're going to be building up a sweat daily.

>>50903183
Yeah but other men can't tell the difference. I can't either.

Even if I was a billionaire I would feel like a cuck for giving 30000$ to some Swiss Jew for a shitty watch that costs basically nothing to produce.

>>50903146
I have a similar one, with a date and Arabic numerals. I agree about reliability and practicality. The resin strap isn't what I would usually have but I feel replacing it would spoil the whole pleasing package.

When I was in psychosis I couldn’t tell time or do anything time related. Led me to believe time is a man construct and therefore is evil, I use it only to coordinate on my human endeavours. I don’t want to have a man made shackle on my temple (my body)

>>50903153
Appreciated the effort posting fren. IF I wanted to buy a new watch for say around $10k, what company would you recommend?

>>50903218
Based schizo.

>>50903175
>yet it needs constant adjustments
lul

>>50903175
those few seconds you might lose in a day really make a difference? adjust it for a few seconds twice a week no big deal. lol such dramatizing. if you don't care about the beauty and artistry of the movement (love a glass case back for this) that's fine, but why be angry at the people who do appreciate it?

>>50903154
>takes out his phone to check time like every phone addicted zoomer
>cringes when someone wears a watch

>>50903214
Like honestly those cheap casio watches from the 80s give me really uneasy incel/rapist vibes if worn in 2022 and they're not wrong, like you're for example 4ch shitposter and that watch tells.

>>50903232
i also want to hear his recommendation since he clearly knows his shit

>>50903253
>incel shaming on 4chan
lol why bother. where do you even think you are right now? no updoots for you

>>50903236
Because it’s a seething npc

>>50903072
The crown protector and face color are a dead giveaway... try harder

>$60,000 price tag in your fucking dreams

>>50903253
it just means the guys a watch nerd who either doesn't have a lot of money or doesn't feel the desire to flex what money he has. and just wants a decent reliable watch because he likes watches. which in your brain automatically means incel rapist because you're probably a woman with rape fantasies.

>>50900847
Because they crave attention and give a shit about people knowing they can afford a useless watch. Its a clear sign of someone who is either currently middle class or used to be. Real rich folks dont need a watch to prove anything, as they dont hang around the middle class and rather pitty them/know there is nothing to gain from “flexing”

>>50903236
>lol such dramatizing
It's probably my autism but how can you be ok with knowing that thing never ever tells right time. Like in a few hours it'll already be second off, after couple of days you can only guess what time is since mechanical watch is nothing but approximation at that point.
Maybe one of those new citizen/seikos that are gps adjusted and have small generator built in like kinetic whatever the manufacturers buzzword is. Last time I looked they where very expensive and borderline gaudy looking so yeah...

>>50903273
>spends 10s of thousands on a watch because muh social status
>calls others NPCs

>>50903151
Just buy one with a sterling silver band. It's antibacterial and self cleans just by wearing it.

>>50903276
not to mention the brushing being finer on the real one and the nameplate on the dial. ok but only high end luxury watch lovers are going to know and only if they look up close in decent lighting as you keep your wrist still. the ladies will have no idea was my point. i'm not spending 60k on a watch anyways thats too much just to flex on what few ladies can actually tell the difference their pussies aren't worth that much money. could just straight up buy so much sex for 60k

Wearing a watch is jewelry, and I don't deal with Jews or women.

You are all a bunch of fags.

>>50903253
I'm not an incel, I'm a volcel.
Anyway the watch I wear most often is a F-91W, the terrorist watch. It's light, sturdy, has a timer and an alarm, and just enough illumination to read and no more, so you don't harm your night vision when planting explosives.

>>50903294
naah, at this point having thick gold bracelet is less gaudy than wearing one of those manometer with slideruler watches. those things where cool but belong into past...

>>50902903
It does ruin a watch. I find it completely unnecessary both aesthetically and functionally.

>>50903294
i don't care about seconds, as long as i'm not off by over a minute i'm good. i like the clockwork as i said before, it just appeals to me.

>>50903295
>projects strawmen
dumbfuck

>>50903292
Unless they’re the faggots who own entire watch collections which is quite a number of them retard

>>50903232
>IF I wanted to buy a new watch for say around $10k, what company would you recommend?
If you want a daily wear sports watch it's not even a question, go with Rolex. The Submariner is right in that price range and if you want to go slightly over there's the GMT-Master II.

If you want a more formal dress piece in that range the best brand is probably Jaeger-LeCoultre. Bit of a mouthful but I like their Master Ultra Thin watches with the moonphase complication, which can be had for 10k if you want it in stainless.

Good article for learning about Rolex.
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/inside-rolex

>>50903146
I had something like that when I was twelve

Watches are not a sign of any social status. I know apartment dwellers and trailer trash with Rolexs because they are so insecure and need to feel above their peers. Just like the faggots in this thread. Nobody gives a fuck about your jewelry except for other boomer men. Whoever you are hoping notices your watch will never give it a thought other than “who the fuck still wears watches?” When they see you picking up your starbucks instead of having a home cook or staff delivering.

>>50903336
Looks like your time is almost up heretic!
ALLAH WAKBAR

i'm usually not a fan of steel bracelets, but its so well integrated into the design. for $375 its good value and swiss made. tissot prx powermatic 80. maybe a bit on the smaller side at 35mm dial but maybe not id have to try it on wrist to know.

>>50903367
Not a fan of those extra moon phases but might be useful for esoteric TA cheers

>>50903362
Thats for investment purposes, not fashion and dining out like the middle class watch cucks in this thread

>>50903378
>stop liking things i don't like
thats a sign of immaturity
also, you're strawmanning, thats a sign of stupidity

>>50903326
That's the difference in people that have real luxury watches. It's being able to wear something on your wrist that costs as much as someone's house. That Patek foe instance wouldn't sell for less than $120,000 right now. The type of person that would know about that watch would know right away it's a fake. Plenty of athletes have been busted trying to pass off fake Richard Mille watches and it's hilarious. When you have that kind of money though, the places you actually hang out in change drastically, would you wear a Patek to some hole in the wall irish pub, not a chance. You wear that shit to a country club or you probably have clubs that you frequent with others in your status.

Rolex is your entry point into that world, that status. There are plenty of nice roles that don't cost $30,000. My everyday watch is an Air King and I love it. An understated steel watch by Rolex, black face and white gold accents. Stands out to most people, but watch people know it's your everyday driver. I got mine for $8k and never regret wearing it. I also keep a Hamilton Khaki for outdoor purposes, a $500 watch, but also a great watch in return.

I'm also not surrounding myself with poor or trashy people though, so I don't exactly worry about someone robbing me. I live in a good neighborhood and have good neighbors so it's all good.

>>50903367
I'd go with a gmt over a sub personally, but I've never been into the whole sub craze.

>>50903378
Most watch flexing is strictly among the poor or wagies, rather than enterprising men. If you're a business owner it's absurd to spend money on anything unless you can somehow profit from it.

>>50903415
Busted by whom? Professional watch makers or what? You never meet those in real life so what's the point.

>>50903382
yeah ok, I do have a watch but wear it maybe couple times a year to the corporate meetings since it's commie watch so the irony and that shit. It's now even more controversial then before because of motherlands vdv ribbons and what not despite actually being bough in Kiev.

>>50903393
i'm just noticing they also make one in 40mm with a lovely dial with square bumps this is the one id go for

>>50903408
No retard, stop ascribing other people agenda like a clinically narcissistic npc. There’s plenty of watch passionates from middle to upper class and they will recognize and respect one another, who also wear them for fashion or whatever of many purposes.

>>50903393
Tissot is probably the most uninspiring luxury watch brand. Do they even make men’s watches, I’m not even sure.

watches are just neat.

>>50903409
Nobody will think you’re rich because rich people do not hang around the middle class like you. They stick to their kind and keep out of sight. Ever wonder why billionaires are so rarely spotted in public? They are not waiting in line at the post office and DMV like you.

>>50903415
air king is nice but i prefer the sky dweller. has a unique movement in that spinning the bezel for changing the date or time

>>50903072

The dead give away is the Patek Philippe writing.

real one on the left has solid line across the dial.

Fake on the right has an extra chunk of dial material where they then write the sig on top.

>>50903432
Very nice. The commie watches were well made and reliable. Excellent boogaloo timepiece.

good, i'll buy a rolex off an underwater chink

>>50903475
based, check out /r/reptime
unironically a great resource

>>50903431
These dudes are doing press conferences trying to flash a fake watch, same w interviews. There are YouTube videos and articles about it. Once you start getting into watches it influences the stories and videos that get sent your way just because that's what you've been reading up on. Watch people catch these fakes, hewelers, even casual fans of the watch.

>>50903446
LOL if you really think anyone who is actually rich is going to be within 50 yards of anywhere you are. You think wealthy people go to the public shopping malls? Movie theater? Bowling alley? Not a chance. You can do it all from home when you can afford a $100,000 wrist accessory.

>>50903475

>>50903432
is that vostok? great value on dive watches. unique caseback for maximum water resistance. pic related

>>50903415
If I’d buy a Rolex I’d buy an Explorer. I just don’t think the time is right quite yet.

>>50903449
i don't care, if i can trick some dumb slut in a bar who recognizes the brand name and nothing more then mission accomplished. not looking to spend money just to flex on fancy golf club broads or whatever

>>50903486
Fair if its a bad fake, but no one would be able to tell this one is a fake unless he has a microscope or something:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upAJE_XhT2Y&app=desktop

>>50900989
Pays 100k for the ability to look at the time. Youre a fucking idiot anon

>>50903465
One of things that attracted me to the air king and dweller for that matter is that they are underappreciated in the Rolex world for the features they have. Which is why it killed me to see Rolex "update" the air king, now it looks like a damn sub, glad I got mine when I did

>>50903514
except i never did that so...

>>50903175
>never tells time correctly
Not a problem, just count the bongs from the cathedral once a day and you're in business.

>>50903502
Fair enough, but good luck getting any of them to recognize anything than “ROLEX.” Save your money and buy a fake, don’t give in to the Jew markup. NFTs only sold to anyone because enough idiots patted each other on the back for “owning the real thing”

>>50900805
How is rolex a luxury watch brand? Its literally the toyota of watches..

>>50903544
i've said as much multiple times in this thread

>>50903487
>LOL
Standard clinical narcissist instinctual reaction to being faced with reality that his views are wrong, always starts with lol followed by more nonsense like “rich people don’t go out of their homes” obviously factual nonsense.
Notice how the npc also makes it personal by trying to assume its interlocutor is a poorfag that doesn’t have access into high class places, at least occasionally.
You’re a subhuman and the only voice in your head that’s right is the one telling you to off yourself.

>>50903506
The average person wouldn't know or care, but the people they are trying to impress would know. And let's be honest, if you are wearing a half million dollar watch you are trying to impress people... though RM watches have always looked like fucking toddler watches to me anyways

>>50903038
>Because watch tells people your social status and you can speak with people who aren't totally cretins and have some information + you can fuck girls.
what type of beta loser are you that you can't do none of those things without a stupid band on your thin wrists? lmao.

>>50903038
>Because watch tells people your social status
Extreme cringe

>being mad at watches
lol
never gets old, keep it up. such impotent fury

>>50903537
I'm in this catholic jamahiriya with churches everywhere and their dings are off like up to 10 minutes, probably keep time by measuring how much candle burned off stupid savages.

>>50903449
>rich people do not hang out around middle class
Again with clinical narcissists, I t’s 0 or 1, black or white. It’s either a posh elite area or a bumfuck nowhere Detroit. Of course anyone who pays attention has memory of countless rich people associating with others in middle class areas which are not infested with poorfags and crime.

>>50903548
>toyota of watches..
that's Seiko tho...

Any opinions on Panerai and Breitling? Been looking at the Radiomir and Aerospace, respectively

>>50903544
Again the clinically narcissistic npc is not aware just how much time females spend on familiarizing themselves with expensive items like cars and watches to recognize a rich man.

>>50903487

I ride the NYC subway with a full gold Daytona.

Cope more.

>>50903556
>but the people they are trying to impress would know

Money doesn't grant you the ability to microanalyze watches lmao. A good fake will be indistinguishable to anyone unless you're looking really closely.

There is no advanced craftsmanship involved with making watches. They're outdated pieces of technology so they can be easily reproduced.

>>50903587
Breitling are technically proficient and the best pilot watches available, but they are so goddamn big it can look ridiculous on the wrong wrist. Panerai is an outstanding and well recognized brand. Both really good picks, but I wouldn't go w Breitling unless you are actually going to use the features.

>>50903548
Rolex is more like the Lexus of watches.

>>50903587

Panerai is oversized trash that had a moment in the sun 10-15 years ago.

Breitlings are ok. Some of the models are cool.

The only brands that really matter are:

Patek, AP, VC, Rolex, Omega... the order and price levels are dependent on your tastes and budget.

I actually like a lot of Seikos as well. I would almost always start there... unless you can jump straight to a baby Rolex.

You used to be able to get a used Sub or GMT for 3-5K but those days are long gone.

>>50903598
You must be genuinely mentally ill if you think 99.99999% of women out there have the autism and mental capacity to spot a good fake watch.

a timex automatic? it's more likely then you think. and a great value at $260. not exactly a flex for the ladies mind you but eh. i think it looks good

>>50903616
Granted there are awesome fakes out there. Maybe it's a personal thing w me, that if you have to fake it like that, what's the fucking point.

>>50903648
Well you save money and can wear the watches as fashion accessoires and actually enjoy them and not have to baby them.

>>50903642
You must be an idiot if you can’t notice how females have great knowledge of things and their price they don’t give a fuck about normally like cars.
Also again midwit is strawmanning, never said it’s 100% females, but it is a significant number.

>>50903642
I read that wrong, I never said anything about them spotting fakes

>>50903659
You’re lying to yourself, what kind of a subhuman npc does that

>>50903556
>the people they are trying to impress would know
The people you have in mind would already know you through your business connections. They're not going to let you into the country club because you're wearing a nice watch.
>if you are wearing a half million dollar watch you are trying to impress people
It's more like either
>you appreciate something about the craftsmanship
or
>you're already a extreme richfag and your father gifts you a Patek Philippe watch on the occasion of your appointment to board member because it's fitting for someone in your position.
That's the other thing, when you're of elite status these items just tend to appear by themselves. You don't "treat yourself" to a fancy watch.

>>50903642
Many women are autistic about golddigging.

>>50903682
Yeah but they're also stupid.

>>50903678
>people don’t meet new people in rich men clubs
Another idiot holy shit. That’s literally how many of those Trumps, Clintons and Epsteins meet

>>50903659
You're not only lying to yourself, but you bought a sub par watch that even though it looks the part, can never act like it and will break down within a week. When you buy a luxury watch you buy a quality time piece as well

>>50903676
Being NPC to is me caring whether a product is genuine or not. If it looks the same and works the same why would I care.

i dunno about the tritium, i'm sure its probably safe. but this military looking watch from marathon comes in at a fair $715 and looks nice in a utilitarian sort of way.

>>50903707
I have several high quality fakes and never had an issue but ok.

It tells the time, what else is there.

>>50903678
Thinking like this is why you will never be on that level

>>50903713
Thinking a real product is the same as a fake shoddy piece of metal that’s made to look like the real thing on surface is literally what makes an npc. You can’t make the qualitative distinction between the real, quality thing and the false, cheap fake.
You don’t even know what npc means retard

>>50903704
You have to be invited by a member, idiot. You're not bullshitting your way in this time.

>>50903415
B4sed i am also an Air-King chad.

Don't waste your money on fakes. Real watches feel amazing to wear. Fake watches you can fool people but you can't fool yourself.

I wear my watch around my house and just feel good wearing it.

Anyone who wants to get into watches - Save up for an entry level new Rolex and then get something extra special after. Don't compromise and buy a bunch of shitters you'll never be properly happy with.

I put my name down for an Air-King, got it when it came through and I love it. Now I've put my name down at the AD for a Pepsi and I visit them every 3 months to build up my profile with them.

Could take years but will be great when I get the watch.

>>50903714
canadian brand, swiss movement. can canada not into automatic movements? amazing to this day so many countries simply cannot make their own movements. it takes a lot of infrastructure and know how and market demand so the swiss and japanese are still the giants in the industry as they have been for decades.

>>50903721
Then why don’t you simply buy cheap watches? Because you’re a subhuman who wants the benefit of pretending to have a quality watch yet now is projecting itt onto others that it doesn’t matter kek

>>50903737
They're not cheap fakes retard, they're high quality hand made watches.

The luxury brand watches aren't more difficult to produce, you merely pay for brand.

>>50903721
If you are already spending g upwards of $300 on a fake, just wait and get a real one. There is this idea that you have to "baby" these watches, but the true quality ones you don't, in most cases they are built tougher than your cheap beaters (certain outliers exist)

>>50903741
>knowing one member is the same as knowing other hundreds of memebers
70 IQ again

>>50903745
Because I like the looks of some expensive watches.

>>50903714
Tritium is perfectly safe so long as you don't swallow the watch and even then it should remain intact.

>>50903752
>fake
>high quality
No they’re not and you’re lying to yourself. Not only did you buy a crappy version of the real thing, you overpaid for it like an absolute idiot

>>50903763
Bullshit, you can find countless good looking watches for low-medium price, that don’t even look different from the high priced watches. You’re a fake and a fraud kys

>>50903742
Fucking love it, the Air King is such a great fucking watch, best investment of an entry Rolex there is. It was underappreciated for a while, but people are waking up.

>>50903765
>cuckold who fell for the marketing is lashing out

It's obvious you don't even know anything about watches lmao. Start at /r/reptime and thank me later.

that cotton candy blue is really popping on this bronze piece from oris. $2750

>>50903794
>/r/reptime
These guys kinda seem like cucks.

why are you wearing a pilot watch? you're not a pilot, you're a big fat phony. land your imaginary plane in style with this bulova at $487

you'll never be confused about what day of the week it is with this hamilton khaki field king $575

>>50903824
Nope that seems reasonable if his goal is to impress others without spending money.

>>50903827
What if there's an emergency and the pilot gets food poisoning and I need to land the plane? My GMT-Master will be invaluable in saving the situation.

>>50903038
Part of my job is to talk to CEO and higher up office types on a daily basis. Only one of them owns a watch and it's an apple smart watch. The shop guys I've noticed are more likely to wear watches, particularly the managers.

>>50903863
>prices in rupees
Seems like it's pajeets

>>50903862
What about the phase of the moon? You have to go by memory unless you have a decent watch.
>inb4 look at the moon
that only works half of the time

>>50903884
I can tell you're seething, cuck.

though they lack hacking, hand winding, and are no longer in production, the seiko series 5 with the reliable snk movements are a cult classic of value for money. once readily available at a hundred dollarinos new ones are creeping up in price on the grey market . comes in many different shapes, typically on the smaller end of the case size spectrum, but very nice.

>>50903874
My boss wears Longiness tho he's boomer and always wear suit. No one else that I know in the office wears watch, not apple, not those bands, nothing. I wear miband bcause my gf bought me one and is always asking how many steps I have... I barely move so today it's 2k while she never has less than 15k. Thanks for reading my blog.

>>50903942
Based not moving enjoyer

>>50903884
so what watch was it?

>>50900948
I just think its faggy. Do you get it now? Do you? Faggot.

>>50903951
He says he wore his "sub"
I think he's talking about a replica submariner.

>>50903937
Anon despite not being OP you've made 45 posts about watches. I'm afraid I have to revoke your ability to call people autistic sorry

>>50903952
i think you probably want to wear a watch but you're too insecure so you lurk watch threads calling people faggots in the hopes someone talks you into it so you can just stop being so uptight and enjoy the technical and artistic marvels that are nice watches.

>>50903987
all very tasty watches i've posted, you're welcome. why not post a watch yourself or are you afraid people will mock your style?

>>50903950
Never make you computer desk or home too comfortable or you'll never want to be anywhere else. I got this advice 15 years ago, never listened and it was mistake.

>>50903007
who the fuck says 9 times out of 9 times? Are you missing a finger?

>>50904004
I haven't used a watch since I was a teenager before shartphones were invented, a $10 Walmart digital watch. Very handy for alarms and telling time

>>50903966
nice, some pics there are so tryhard it hurts...

>>50902910
While it’s good to save money anon, watch out for some dipshit boomer or an illegal with no insurance to hit you. A buddy of mine had a great older car, then got nailed on his way home from a friends house by an illegal immigrant with no insurance. His mid 2000s car kept him safe enough, but he still broke his collarbone and got a concussion in the process. He got hit by another sedan so it wasn’t as bad, but god help you if you get him by some dipshit boomer in an F-150 or some other obnoxiously large truck. That’s why I tell people it’s not the worst thing to upgrade your vehicles on occasion for safety updates

>>50904016
It a way of saying 100% of the time

make every hour happy hour with the cocktail time from seiko. the dials are amazing open that jpeg and take a look

>>50904026
When I was teen I didn't use watch at all. Crazy when I think about it now. Also those was pre-cellphone times and my first cell didn't even have clock.
I kinda miss times when I didn't have anything and only worry where the grades now and then.

Rolexes are made almost entirely by automated machines, both inside and out.
And it shows.
At that point, just get a Seiko. It has the exact same level of craftsmanship in it.

If you're gonna wear a luxury watch (all mechanical watches are obsolete and therefore luxury), wear one with HAND finishing; actual craftsmanship.

>>50903587
Consult the chart.

>>50904037
Yeah... but I also ride motorcycle... which I bought for 3k.

>>50904026
nothing wrong with that, suit yourself

>>50904062
Nice, reminds me of pic related

>>50904073
lol that's pretty accurate actually

>>50904091
kek tho it's probably just art-deco influence

>>50904066
don't we all my man

>>50900805
Rolex’s make jealous people angry, which is an important thing that all of us should be doing.

Where do you buy reproduction watches?
I really want one of these but am a broke chump

>>50904194
wew
lad
thats... really something.

>>50904248
It's the only watch I've ever seen and liked.

>>50903469
>real one on the left
please tell me you are trolling

>>50904285
you might want to mention this to an optometrist

>>50904324
You're a faggot with no taste

>>50903440
very similar body as a Rolex oysterquartz

>>50904194
browse reddit reptime
it's usually individual craftsmen who sell hte best watches, so you have to contact them on discord etc

>>50904329
it's just some banter bud, relax. you do you

>>50904036
The blue sunburst really sets off well against his onyx skin

5 figure luxury watches are taking a double whammy because of supply chain problems and the watch modding scene. Seikos have become the most modded watch because their cases and movements are so modular, and they just werk.
Why spend 10s of thousands on a Rolex when you can just make a watch exactly how you want it?

>>50904073
Omega does make some nice watches but I find the name Omega retarded.. Rolex, Breitling sound masculine, strong, but omega... ehh. Even the brand names that feature a geographical place or a last name sound better.

>>50904362
lol, where can i buy that dial

>>50904405
For me it's opposite. Omega sounds precise and mathematical, Rolex sounds glitzy and flashy like "Lexus".
All of the French makes sound like handbags for Asian women.

>>50903794
Lmao, these fucking kids.

>>50904527
Here's his "rep"

>>50900989
So you'll never carry a phone?

Havent changed the battery in my casio in over 5 years, cost me 15$

>>50904527
>>50904548
Now I have something to read till the end of the day... crazy people.

>>50904491
The letter ”x” either makes the name cool or ruins it, with Rolex I think it works well.

DateJUST.

Rolexes are cool but played out unless they're vintage. As for me, I like a plain watch face. Too many dials just complicate matters

>>50903804
oris are garbage. you'd be better off with a shitty tudor than that piece of crap.

>>50904602

Why does this website flip pictures? I don't get it

>>50904615
because people are taking pics with phones upside down and 4ch is discarding exif tag that carries flag "yeah retard was holding me upside down". when you take a pic buttons should be on the top of the phone not bottom.

>>50904657

Well that's just goofy

>>50903491
Got a couple of vostoks but they're unironically not that good even for cheap mechanical water resistance - the crown is made of a poor quality steel and the threads erode meaning to ensure water resistance it has to be screwed down tighter and tighter over time, otherwise the tiniest drop gets in and the things fucked - the crown itself even rusts, and astonishingly the numbers on the dial are painted with a water based paint, so if moisture does get in and condense on the inside of the crystal, it'll then run down and permanently smear the watchface.

>>50904675
You're just goofy

>>50904675
>threads erode
threads corrode but that doesn't matter bcause it's not the threads that are making crown water tight but little gasket inside it.
if you have corrosion issues use a bit of silicone grease, it's good for threads and for the gasket.
if you're getting moisture inside watch your gaskets are done.

>>50904073
added a little something

>>50903218
>>50903233
The schizo is right, time is so subjective. I had dpdr for a few weeks and it was surreal, you can feel the simulation counter being sped up and shit start going 1.5 speed.

>>50904682
ah, that's a shame. it looks so good too. thanks for the heads up. it's a watch i might have bought

>>50900815
For me, its a well-made Seiko with a certificate of authenticity certifying construction in glorious Nippon.

>>50904733

Should have the time on the phone read 10:10

>>50904735
it's just your perception of time. why assume the entire universe time shifts but only you notice. lol

>>50902073
It takes more effort to take out your phone, which also has many distractions in it. It also makes you look disinterested during a conversation to check your phone.
Checking the time on a hand watch is effortless and can be done while holding something with two hands.

>>50904194
cringe

>>50904830
Checking watch is so much more rude than checking phone.
You can check phone for many reasons, watch for only one.

>>50904847

What if I check my watch and simultaneously pinch my crotch.

>>50904527
>Study your watch info, hard. Know it's history, know it's secondary market price, know it's movement, know what celebrities has worn it. They more info you know, the more chance people gonna believe you. The biggest tell is always you. You can't tell people you bought a $20K watch but know nothing about it.

>>50904699

Rekt

>>50904916
i like to wear my watch on my dick and just unzip the fly and flop it out to check the time.

>>50904847
>talk with chick
>check the time on my watch
>"are you in a hurry?"
As opposed to:
>talk with chick
>check time on my phone
>"are you even listening?"

>>50905104
its a great chance to show you don't give a fuck what she thinks when you make no apologies whatsoever and then do it again a few minutes later. beta move would be not to take this chance to lower her down a peg where her mouth can more easily reach your cock

>>50905172
or worse, make that move and then apologize when she gets mad. yuck

>>50900819
It depends on the watch. If you like to dive Rolex Submariner is essential. It's also nice status telegrapher and ice breaker if you move around rich faggots.

>>50904070
Nice bait faggot

>>50905372
what?

>>50903645
I know you're trolling this thread, but just want to point out that the only watch that women care/know about is rolex. Other than that, your next best bet for comments and attention is from wearing an Invicta monstrosity.

>>50904527
What's the point of buying a replica? If you are too poor to afford an original then you are too poor to pull it off.
You probably dress cheaply, you drive a cheap car and you don't even hang out with wealthy individuals in golf or yacht clubs. You will never fool anyone and women couldn't care less because attractiveness and personality matters more

>>50900847
It's fun to wear something with such intricate mechanical function on my wrist. I appreciate the engineering as well as the art and beauty of the piece

>>50905922
>You probably dress cheaply
Lots of rolexes are tool watches basically made of stainless steel, no precious metals or gems, and styled in a way that you can wear whatever you like. A dress watch is different

>>50903824
Every single watch is made to impress others. It's up to you wether your watch is the first and only impression you make or just one of many...

>>50900989
Watches where you can see the gears working > blingy trash diamonds

>>50900929
Don't forget make up.

Debating on picking up one of these bad boys, thoughts?

>>50907290
Looks decent, but I just can’t stand day and date displays anymore. You don’t actually need them, and they end up being nothing but a distraction and nuisance on the watch.

i've noticed even watches like Seiko are way more expensive than they used to be.

unironically post good deals in the luxury watch market

>>50902097
he's not wrong, refute the point or forever cope

>>50903178
The really good fakes are nearly indistinguishable without a real one to compare but Chinese labor isn't cheap any so they usually cost more than $1k.

>>50903038
>For example I like fine Jewish eastern euro girls, they don't even speak with you without a few million dollars. Don't even look at you..

You are a retarded unproductive coomer. Kill yourself.

>>50907565
and for that much you can get a real watch that will hold up over time

>>50907290
personally I like Orient.
Cool in-house movement, all steel (unlike some Rolex)
good value and the all green one is comf

I wonder if people would buy so many if they knew how many were made per year....

I have two Rolex watchs that I got about five years ago. I enjoy them, but my problem with Rolex and Patek is that they're just NPC tier watches now. Literally every single man I meet now has a real Rolex, usually a submariner or GMT. You can't go anywhere upscale now with a Rolex without a dozen other people wearing them. You almost stand out more by not wearing a watch. People that wear Rolex almost never know Omega or any other high end brands either

A lot of it is just for non-whites to cope with. I've never met a street shitting Indian making more than 100k that didn't drive a BMW and had a Rolex with his Ralph Lauren polo on. Same thing with Patek and Arabs. It's so cookie cutter that there wouldn't be any real value if Rolex didn't create artificial scarcity.

>>50907565
You can get so many beautiful watches for 1k-2k from a lot of different brands. 99% of watch people are just consoomers and the name is more important than anything else.

Cartiers are nice

>>50907290
orient has a decent reputation as a value for money brand. make sure you get a size that fits your wrist some of their watches are on the larger size.
>>50907470
yes, the series 5 went from a one hundred dollar watch to the new ones being three hundred. newer series 5 have the nh35 movement which has hacking and hand winding unlike the older series 5 which had the skx movement. seiko doesn't want to be the lowest price watch on the market on anymore, they don't want to be seen as a budget brand i think. still good value for money though.
>>50907527
see
>>50904733
and all the many arguments made in this thread already for why some people like watches. im not going to repeat myself again when i already repeated myself half a dozen times
>>50907810
and you should do that. but also if you want to impress shallow roasties get a fake rolex as well
>>50908916
which is why brands like rolex restrict how many watches they make. since they're largely machine made watches they could scale up production and lower the prices but thats not their business model
>>50909144
indeed, and i'd rather one of those then a fake. but also id consider a fake for hitting on women with since they aren't likely to care about my tissot or hamilton watch despite it being great value for money

>>50907290
Orient makes the best entry level watches. The mako is the best dive watch for the money

>>50900920
I find carrying a mobile phone impractical.

>>50903183
This.

>>50903659
Why not buy a homage from a micro brand then? At least your not trying to fake it.

what do u guys think of these for an entry level? frederique constant and edox? both swiss, similar pice

>>50910959
you seem to know your shit, thoughts on these? >>50912564 ive never owned a watch before and know little about them but i like the look of these two

>>50900805
>be rich ching chong
>show off wealth with watch
>CCP sends me to gulag

It is always better to hide your wealth.

>>50903548
More like benz

>>50900819
this, smart watches are better anyway

>>50900824
> pragmatism makes you a moron
Perhaps you're the moron for thinking that a $10k watch will make people like you, or even worse make you like yourself.

>>50912847
i don't know anything about those two brands. but i did some quick research. frederique constant was bought out by citizen, so japanese owned now but still swiss made. which is fine citizen is good. seems their quality is good.

but very little brand recognition if that matters to you at all. in terms of resale value and whether or not anyone says "hey nice watch" lack of brand recognition can hurt.

edox has a little more history and is slightly better known but also suffers a bit in terms of brand recognition. both brands here seem to offer good quality based on my very brief research and reading a couple websites. but you should do some of your own research reading reviews and such on these brands.

as for these two watches in particular, i know nothing about them. or how much they cost. i personally wouldn't pay too much seeing as how resale value could hurt from people not knowing the brands. but for just a watch you like they're fine if its in your price range. the edox here seems to be an automatic and a chronograph as well, being a chronograph expect better accuracy while being more expensive and difficult to repair. the fred i have no idea, might even be a quartz for all i know, i wouldn't want to spend much on a quartz if it is but thats just me.

Quartz is a better time keeping technology and you are wearing a wrist fedora.

Chads wear smart watches, seikos, timex, g shock, or casio. Rolex and luxury brands are for jews drug dealers and trust fund babbies.

>>50903253
>buying something cheap and practical makes you a rapist and a loser
>You need to spend thousands on a wrist clock to "look like" a normal, stable person.
Wow. Corporations love people like you

>>50902709
Take your meds, fag

>>50913398
quartz is fine, nothing wrong with it, better accuracy of course. but i just like automatic movements. the appeal of it not needing a battery, the artistry of clockwork and being able to watch the gears turn if it has a glass back. the skill and engineering and design that goes into it. there's a kind of romance to automatic movements, a nostalgia, a novelty to it, a feel.

i prefer ereaders because its better technology. i like the eink displays and find them as easy on the eyes as paper. but some people still prefer a paper book for whatever romantic reason. do i shit on their bookshelves and brag about how my ereader puts thousands of books in my pocket, no i don't, because i don't care.

dvd fags i'll never understand though, just download your movies you savages.

>>50913439
that's so boring, come up with a better insult or don't even bother.
>take meds, touch grass, have sex incel
yawn
weak bants

>>50913363
thanks for your thoughts anon i appreciate it. i didnt know Frederique Constant had been bought out, but not too bad since Citizen still has a good name. and yeah theyre not expensive, like £800 each (about $1100ish). Does Raymond Weil have a good name?

>>50913481
>there's a kind of romance to automatic movements, a nostalgia, a novelty to it, a feel.

Exactly; a wrist fedora.

>>50902966
bro how weak are you haha. wtf I go stream fishing and hike like 3 miles on rough terrain with a backpack and pockets full of shit like a knife, multitool, surgical pliers and wet shoes and pants and it's not noticeably more tiring than just walking around and here you are saying your fucking phones too heavy. bro you're in worse shape than my 81yo grandpa with severe COPD.

>>50903111
lmfao exactly, where's the long term gain.
I got more ass wearing my Casio than with my Rolex, no joke.

>>50903367
Something else either swiss or japanese.
Rolex just strikes me as overpriced, I have a fairly good idea of their production numbers. Given what they charge I'm not impressed.
You like Rolex go buy one, boomers will always buy them cause muh nostaglia.

>>50903382
Uniroinically more accurate than almost every high end watch kek.

Boomer here.
Been adding to the collection for 30 yrs. This is mostly a Cartier collection with a few vintage Rolex GMT’s and a tridor President.

>>50903447
They're well made but thats whats stopped me pulling the pin on two watch purchases, I went elsewhere. Why the hell spend that money to get a bland looking watch. Japanese $200 watch will be as well made and will actually have more design put into it unless your a diehard fan or a Swiss national, I cant see why you'd pick one as your only watch.

>>50903577
Another typical larping idiot.
I am upper middle class irl, I hang around with people who make $30k a year and people that make millions per year. Going out for a $5 coffee or the gym doesn't really make me care about their bank account.

>>50905885
I think you'll find outside of millionares daughters most woman today under 50 don't know jack about watches.

>>50905959
You'll apreciate this...

>>50913505
to be honest i'm more of a sporty value brand watch guy thats where most of my research has gone. where as you seem to be going for lesser known affordable luxury brand dress watches.

the hard part of watch research is theres a lot of bullshit. for example on my brief search into raymond weill im finding almost word for word identical reviews allegedly written by different authors on different website that all say its great. and reviews on a watch forum saying they're terrible. i think a lot of watch websites don't know fuck all and are just harvesting clicks by copy-pasting or just reading the brands website and regurgitating. and a lot of user submitted reviews can be fake as well, both from shills lauding it and competition trashing it.

a lot of research would need to be done for me to recommend this brand, but on an initial inspection i'm skeptical.

>>50907565
Correct, I've owned a copy that was given to me. It was so good it fooled my jewller until he opened it. I've owned a second hand one that I quickly tired of and sold.
I still own 2 swiss watches of different brands.

>>50913565
everyones got a fedora of some kind. whether they like paper books, automatic watches, dvds, a particular brand of shoes, the shirts they wear, who cares. it's about what you personally happen to like and where your tastes lie. as you grow older you'll find yourself less and less mad at people liking things you don't like. until then keep hating on watches like it even matters, nobody cares.

>>50913640
Hey boomer, I found if you don't have an orginal case, the dollar shop sells sunglasses softcases.
Pretty good way to stop marking.

No refunds.

Bust down or nothing. Lol @ seething poorfag icelets

>>50913744
What the guy with the pink ID said to you seems like decent advice to me , for what thats worth.
I'd also consider some of the "mid range" Swiss watch brands. You can typically get a decent to good watch for between $500 USD and $5000 USD.

>>50913783
Gawdiest thing I've ever seen lmfao.

>>50913764
to further expand on this. the phenomenon of "stop liking what i dont like" comes from a frustration in not understanding why someone would like that thing, and a belief that the reason they like it is they're stupid and inferior. trying to explain to these people why you like the thing is difficult because they're emotionally invested in the idea that they're better then you because they don't like it. and for them to be open minded enough not to dismiss your attempt at explanation would involve a blow to the ego in no longer being able to feel superior to the people who like that thing. i know because i used to be like that when i was younger

>>50906161
I might upload some of mine in a future thread (no rolex) but couple swiss.

>>50906624
They're more something you wear to an event or if you wear a suit and only show your watch as a talking point.

>>50913831
i actually used to hate watches especially automatic watches. i thought just use your phone and quartz is better and all that. now i really like watches especially automatics because now i get it. i now get the appeal and i'm into it.

>>50907470
Seikos improved their quality, they were dog shit a few years ago because of chinese quality control. Now many are cased in china but the movement is Jap.

>>50907801
Unless you live in New York this is unlikely a problem for 99.999999% of the board.

>>50913869
yeah it was an issue with the dial not being aligned to the movement properly some people were reporting. that would annoy the shit out of me. a small blemish on an otherwise excellent reputation but they seem to have recovered.

>>50913804
The thing is the whole point of luxury watches is to be flashy and flex money. Nothing impresses women more then shiny sparkling diamonds. Nobody buys a rolex for le hecking special movement horology autism. Its literally just a status symbol people get like designer clothes or Ferrari's. To normies A $10k diamond rolex outshines some gay ass 100k plain Patek dress watch that rich oldmoney boomers wear.
And watchfags always seethe uncontrollably at diamond watches.

rate this watch (it's an invicta of course)

i can't imagine anyone buying this except to wear ironically.

>>50913901
yeah but it has to look good on you. not many guys are eccentric enough to pull off that look. on most guys that watch would look horribly out of place. this is what nicholas cage wears, and it works for him because he's nicholas cage. you have to have the full look and persona to back up that ultrabling or it doesn't fit

I came across this a couple weeks ago I think you guys will appreciate it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG-is93AUnA Perhaps one of these modern value brands will be the next luxury brand of tomorrow.

>>50914112
yeah i saw that, i quite like the brass hamilton

Watches had value 50-60-70-100-200 years ago
Today watches provide no utility. Anyone who buys more than a shitty 10$ watch is a retard.

Anyone who consooms luxury goods is a retard.You are no different than funkopop buying soys you hate

>>50914161
see
>>50913831

>>50913481
Automatics piss me off because if you don't wear it one day the only way to wind it is to shake it like a spaz.
Give me a hand winder, I don't mind winding my watch for twenty seconds once a day.

>>50914255
most automatics have hand winding. some of them, like the older seiko series 5 don't, but most now do.

>he doesn't own at least 12 mechanical watches
>every girl on earth rolling around on the floor crying with laughter

>>50914112
Cool video thanks.
Those Oris are an ideal entry price range but I just don't like any of them.
Been looking at Zenith they have some really cool watches

>>50914169
>>50913831
not liking one food over another is okay
not liking one game over another is okay
but even these, excessive game or food consuption is retarded

luxury consumption by its nature is excessive, it is retarded consoomerism is cancer. I am not against watches because I don't like them I'm against them because it is an excessive luxury consumption.
I like melons, but if melons become 5000$ a piece, taking excessive marketing to sell it to such numbers I would be against them too.

>>50914494
you said any watch above 10 bucks is retarded
>i am not against watches
as long as they're under $10? can't even get a casio under ten dollars come on.

if someone likes watches, if they like the convenience of not having to pull a phone out to check the time. if they like the look. if they're into the technology and the art of watches. then what is the issue? you can get a very nice watch under $1000. you can get a half decent quartz even for under a $100. a casio digital for under $50. but for some reason anyone spending over $10 is a retard ok whatever.

hating luxury watches is a different argument but you decided to pull out the "watches provide no utility" argument like a moron.

>>50914523
But yeah you are right 10 might be excessive but casio 91-fw goes about 15-20$. Make it 50$. Anything above that is needless consumption
the sole purpose of watch is to tell you time. phones and electronics already fulfill that but I understand the need to briefly glance to your wrist to check time.

luxury consumption of anykind is disgusting and retarded

>>50914577
it's not needles, i like the look. the purpose of watches is also fashion and taste. i appreciate the artistry and craftsmanship and engineering. thats the utility, just liking it. we're human beings not robots.
>$50
can't even get a decent automatic for that
raise your number to $1000 and you can make an argument since there are plenty of options under $1000 that can satisfy taste/fashion/appreciation/art of engineering and craftsmanship

>>50914600
fashion, luxury are retarded
when I become the rightful ruler of earth I will gulag every funkopop, ferrari, louis vitton owner on this planet

>>50900819
Because you want to fit in.

>>50914610
you can get a thousand bucks worth of watch that is literally worth a thousand bucks in terms of the craftsmanship and engineering and artistic and aesthetic value. people value aesthetics and beauty and wearing things and looking at things that match their tastes.

you can get all your nutrients from some protein bug paste but that doesn't mean you can't enjoy a "luxury" steak dinner. you can check the time with a $15 digital watch but maybe you crave the look and feel of something else that maybe costs more. you can satisfy all your desires for engineering and beauty and looks for under $1000 in a watch easily. but under $50 no way, too many options are swept away doing that.

human beings are not robots. so get used to people finding pleasure and satisfaction from things that aren't to your tastes. just like some people like foods that you don't like, some people like watches you don't like.

this is really basic shit and only needs to be explained to you because you have autism and also because you're immature see
>>50913831

>>50914669
anything not utilitarian is retarded
people are retards just because they want expensive shoes and bags doesn't mean we should provide them
free market is retarded because people are retards they demand disgusting things

>>50914676
human beings aren't robots
maybe you'd be happier living on planet vulcan
on planet earth people have artistic tastes and beauty and music and art and whatnot because we're not robots

>i want people to be robots
>perfect machines in identical outfits swarming as part of a coordinated hivemind for maximum efficiency
why even live?
dude you're fucking retarded

>>50914676
like i even gave you an out, saying anything about $1000 you could make an argument that its excessive. not that i personally agree, but a fair argument could be made there.

but $50 come on, fuck off. the watches i want cost between $100 and $800 generally so yeah fuck off. don't tell me what i want

>>50914696
people mostly buy those for status anxiety
to show off and to compensate for their insecurities. You might not be one of them but many of them are
to think the amount of resources and human attention given to these useless shit is absurd.

Here is the kicker, would you buy luxury watches if they were 1$? You probably would. Since you consider them to have artistic value, and hell 1$ for such a piece is a bargain
But many won't because they don't see the artistic value they see it as a status symbol.

>>50914676
>anything not utilitarian is retarded
you look like shit by the way, your closet full of identical black t-shirt and pants makes you look like the emotionally stunted manchild you are on the inside. enjoy your cheap shoes that fall apart after a year. enjoy your ugly $10 watch. enjoy yourself but don't get in the way between me and a $300 seiko series 5 or i will beat the shit out of you in minecraft

>>50914737
>>50914717
sorry I'm not a black person who flexes with bling
a white man is utilitarian do it like a white man

>>50914732
to imagine a petty little wannabe tyrant like you dictating life on earth and telling people what they are and are not allowed to want. makes me sick. as if it was even any of your business.

i don't care for the luxury scene myself, i could even agree with you somewhat that it gets a bit out of hand. but its not my place to dictate to people what they're allowed to do and not do, its nobodies place. and yes, more time and resources spent on important shit would be great, too much money is spent on sports for example, fucking multimillionaire football players its retarded. but not my place to shut that down its none of my business.

and frankly, re-allocating money from rolex to space travel or medical research isn't how money works, it's not how anything works. the guys making watches aren't going to turn around and develop a cure for your diabetes instead.

>>50914778
yes tyranny is needed people are cattle as terry david (pbuh) said.
https://www.vidlii.com/watch?v=uUpexzGRQSx

>>50914758
a seiko series 5 is not flexing with bling. its a great value for money watch. and my $200 shoes have held together for several years now and are comfortable and look great (or they did when i bought them theyre a bit worn down now id like new ones). i plan on buying a new shirt, the one i have my eyes on is about $50 but has a unique cut and style i cant find at walmart and is custom fitted to the measurements i send in so it will look great on me.

>>50914785
tyranny is impractical because power corrupts. even good men become evil when given too much power. also no man is capable or competent enough for tyranny. its not a practical system, it doesn't work, because humans, all humans even you, are too flawed to micromanage everything. you're arrogant and your sheer hubris is a failing

>>50914807
I am superior because I'm not effected by luxurybagjew luxurywatchjew luxurycarjew funkopopjew
>>50914801
then you are one of us welcome to the land of white man

>>50914832
reset your definition of luxury watches. $50 limit leaves out so many fine watches that are literally worth their price. if you want reliability, craftsmanship, aesthetic beauty and you appreciate the engineering and history of automatic movements you're gonna need to spend more then $50

>>50914832
to set your luxury price on what you define as luxury you need to understand the market you're looking at. shoes for example, what is the price of a good looking shoe that is comfortable and reliable, at what price point will you have plenty of different options for different aesthetic tastes. find that price and then thats your luxury cutoff price just above that. i'd say $400 but im not a shoe guy maybe i'm wrong.

>>50914859
>>50914846
point is there is a price above which you are getting much less value for money generally speaking albeit with some exceptions.

luxury goods is when the item you're wearing artificially costs more based on brand recognition and artificial scarcity and you can make an argument thats retarded. though i still think its not anyones place to play dictator on that and no point anyways in doing so.

>>50914859
like if you can't find a pair of shoes under $400 that has the look and functionality you desire i'd be surprised.

but set the limit at say $200 and that leaves out a lot of very nice and worthwhile shoes in the 300-400 price range

>>50900819
People that are kinda well off but not actually mega fuck you rich trying to flex because they have no personality outside of their wealth

>>50914832
>I am superior
dangerous thinking
it will blind you to your own failings. you will assume people are wrong too often when they might be right simply because your ego is too heavily invested in the idea that you're superior because they're wrong. it can blind you. arrogance is a massive flaw to have

>>50914909
or maybe they just like the way it looks?
did you think about that?

i think the honda civic is a great car, i think it looks great and is very reliable and functional. a porsche costs a lot more but isn't excessive, great styling and driving experience. a lambo? is it worth the money? i don't think so, i think its a stupid waste of money. but it's not my place, i don't want a world where i have the power to order people to not drive lambos, its not my or anyones place to tell other freethinking adults what they can and can't do even if i think they're wrong.

best you can do is shame luxuryfags, call them out as looking like tryhard dweebs. help make that cultural shift. but that doesn't work when you're a nerd shitting on $60 watches as being "luxury goods" then they want the rolex even more just as a fuck you to assholes telling them what they shouldnt be allowed to have.

i mean really, the rolex is only worth 10k because of brand recognition and artificial scarcity. it's more like a $3000 watch if they increased production and dropped the name premium. its mostly a machine made watch, not some intricate movement that can only be made by a skilled craftsmen like some high end watches. rolex is a great watch though, they're very reliable and very well engineered, look great. might even get you laid. so overall if someone wants a rolex ok fine, enjoy it if you can afford it. also has some resale so some limited utility as a store of value its not money flushed down the drain.

so i wont shame low end rolex watches, not to my personal tastes but i get it.

but a $100,000 patek phillipe ok maybe just fuck off, you look stupid. is that really the best you could do with 100k come on think harder.

and then theres richard heart with his million dollar rolex that cost one million dollars. what a fucking clown.

and those million dollar monkey jpegs, i know you think they're cool because people are pissed off at you. but its not cool, its so lame. you could do so much with a million a fucking jpeg you are shitting me. its not worth a million dollars just to be shitting me. you're a clown

>>50915045
but if you want to spend a couple hundred on a nice flurk, that's a classy nft to display. gives you some cred as a based chud i get it.

>>50900824
>anyone who doesn't wear a watch is a zoomer

>oh, you want to know what time it is?
>that'll be $18,000,000 please sir
spastics.

>shitting up the thread with a wall of text
eh its the end of the thread why not

>>50900881
>>50900948
>>50900989
>100 posts by this ID
hahahaha the subhuman got hyper-triggered

>>50915132
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Is there a watch specifically for larpers?

>>50904733
>Grand Seiko
>Credor
>Cartier
Oh no no no