/biz/ - Business & Finance

>>50844701
>pretty print

i am and it literally is

>>50844701
>bait thread #467

>>50844701
Best resources to learn?

>>50844701
>le l33t hacker matrix background
kys yourself

>>50844701
how dumb do you have to be to think anyone codes like this

Is there any benefit to learning to code as a tradie?

>>50844758
It’s actually really smart because it reduces compile time slightly but if you zoom out it can be very significant

>>50844737

>>50844771
Air Conditioning

>>50844758
im a web developer who makes six figures and i code like this

>>50844728
plz bro the world is watching you
are you gonna be fren

>>50844701
That remind me of the "just learn japanese it's easy" with a pic of a page of a book full of moonrune.
Znd yes, it was easy.
It bet programming is just the same, easy but time-consuming and requiring a degree of creativity to construct sentences.

reminder that 95% of programmers suck, you can be a pleb and have a lot of room to be lazy.

>>50844799
what do you mean?

t. Electrician

>>50844793
>learning C++ will fuck you up like a pack of wild gooses
Ok, that one IS scary.

>>50844788
sure but you would just eliminate white space when you’re ready to compile

>>50844803
then you are retarded

>>50844823
95% of any profession suck, since 95% of the population is below 130IQ.

>>50844834
>then you are retarded
if it works it works

>>50844701
there are no coding jobs where I live, anyway this field is oversaturated and the bubble will burst soon.

>>50844875
it’s not over saturated
cope

>>50844875
I feel like people have been saying this for like 15 years

so, what's the best coding route to go down? web development seems interesting. Would web development go something like
>The Odin Project
>CS150
>Full Stack Open

>just let vitalik teach you the basics of zk STARKS, bro, zero knowledge protocols are the future

>>50844701
if
bla bla bla

else if

bla bla

else

bla bla blim

/if

fucking stupid

>>50845860
m8 that is what bad code looks like. honestly you might not realise it (or not think in those categories) but code that heavily depends on if-clauses is a nightmare to maintain.
believe me everyone who has to deal with your shit hates you.

pic related in a horrifying way.

>>50845937
Central Planning works tho.

>>50845723
Seems like a good path. I'm trying to figure out where to start as well.

>>50846066
what would be a path for a non-web dev route?

https://youtu.be/7PtTLHfaYWs?t=620
It's so easy you fucking retards, I got a job after 2 months of neet deving.

>>50844737
>>50844771
>>50844811
>>50845723
>>50846066
>>50846199

codewars.com
leetcode.com
hackerrank.com
replit.com
tons of youtube channels

> and for those anons who are really serious
picrel: https://web.mit.edu/6.001/6.037/sicp.pdf

good luck and happy hacking

>>50846256
>It's so easy you fucking retards, I got a job after 2 months of neet deving.
you studied for 2 months and got a job? why would they give you a job?

>>50844701
That’s a minified file though

>>50846447
Watch the video a bit lol

>>50846015
you obviously don't know programming.

It is pretty generally easy once you become good at it, like with most things.

>>50846256
That kid is a master troll

>>50846490
i can't stand listening to that
>dobudatdu dubairatardud durbidardudidod
lol the comments though. thank you for doing the needful

>>50844875
robots are never unsaturated. control F took many lawyer and assitant jobs in the 90s

>>50844701
yes

>>50844701
>it's easy
How do you eat an elephant?
One spoonful at a time.

>>50846514
Throw 130 IQ nerds at some dumbass problem that didn't need to be solved to waste humanities' time in a simulacra of meatspace existence. Who cares about the specifics codefag.

>>50844748
>matrix background
that's code you retard

>>50844737
The definitive no bullshit guide to becoming a software engineer:
1. install linux
2. read this book >>50844793 and do the exercises. It's not a C++ book, it's a beginner's programming book that incidentally uses C++. C++ is the best language to start with because it sits at the intersection of high level and low level, so it hides a lot without preventing you from being able to drop down when you need to. You'll learn important OOP concepts from the get go like encapsulation etc.
3. Pic related should be read alongside as a companion. It will give you a basic grounding in how computers work (memory, io, concurrency, persistence, etc)
4. Next you need to learn data structures and algorithms (DSA). I'd recommend reading CLRS (it's a little mathy, if this scares you there's many other good texts), then practice by solving leetcode problems
5. Now you're ready to dive into operating system internals (Modern Operating Systems is a canonical text). For practice work on projects like writing your own shell, malloc, a basic filesystem, etc
6. Then I would learn networking (Computer Networking: A Top-Down Approach). As practice write a simple multi threaded server
7. If you've reach this stage you now have a solid foundation in computer science and you're ready to learn how to actually design systems and build software. Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software is a good primer but the learning at this step will be continuous
8. Learn databases. I just read "Database Internals: A Deep Dive into How Distributed Data Systems Work" and can't recommend this book enough
9. Finally, learn distributed systems.

At some point you have to learn how compilers work because so far they've seemed like magic. After step 4 is probably the best time to dive into the internals, but since you'll be using a compiler from step 2 you need to at least get familiar with what they are, how to use it, and the different stages involved in compilation.

Happy hacking!

>>50847525
This is a good approach but it's not the best approach to make money fast if that's your goal

>>50844737
pajeet and rajesh on youtube

>>50844737
I'm using this one, but textbooks are my preference.
>https://teachyourselfcs.com/

>>50844793
This is actually the first programming book i read when i graduated highschool unironically the best beginners guide to programming learning C++ first makes every other language feel like a piece of cake. Just remember that code is the tool for creating systems, the theory and rules you learn from study is what makes you a good engineer.

>>50847525
If you go to this site, most of those books are in there. I think it's more structured than most tutorials I've seen.
>>50849304

>>50845723
Odin project is great. You should do it.

>>50847525
and by the time you've learned all that, you'll lose your passion and it will suck to work the job. (T 10 year in IT, completely hate it now). already started hated it 5 years in(after I finished fucking college)

Are they able to roll my windows down?

>>50845775
I literally do not understand even an iota of that. Can I make it in programming, mathchads?vdmggx

>>50849423
Dw like every tech worker you'll work another 5 years, have a mental breakdown and either start a company or move to a farm in middle america and start growing avocados.

I went to a coding Bootcamp in California for 13 weeks then got a job. 15k which was paid by you taxpayers (I'm a veteran). Thank me for my service, I work from home making 130k now. Alot of work in the beginning though

>>50847236
that's not code, it's obfuscated garbage

Just skip all this highfalutin science garbage and pick up a Unity tutorial, ez money.

>>50849259
What approach would that be?

>>50849488
Which one? You use your gi bill?

>>50849648
Vet Tec, do look up anon

How do I know if I like coding? Is there some way to test before I dip my toe in?

>>50849674
Dipping a toe in is normally how you test anything anon

>>50849619
>do cheap or salary-based bootcamp as fast as possible and get a job you're underqualified for
>learn on the job while you apply for higher paying jobs almost immediately
>get a higher paying job that your ""experience"" qualifies you for (you'll still be underqualified)
>rinse and repeat 2-3x
>enjoy your 6fig salary
You learn wayyyyy faster on the job than self-studying from a textbook. Most CS algorithms and theory is dumb shit you'll never use, mostly you'll be doing .sort() and copying code from stackoverflow when that doesn't work.

Only downside is you will have to make a lot of lateral moves to earn a lot. But that's still way better than solo-studying a bunch of theory nobody gives a shit about (for a salary of $0, too). You'll spend months or years years grinding in solitude only to end up with a middling job anyways--only people who get FAGMAN jobs right off the bat are ivy league grads anyways. Everyone else has to move laterally into those kinds of companies.

The Indians know this. Do you think Ramesh studies CS theory? No, he just spamcodes copy-paste stackoverflow.
>bu-bu-but muh code quality
We're talking about the best way to make money fast, not write good code.

Oh and even at FAGMAN, the only reason you need to know theory and algorithms is for the interview. After that, >95% of people work on inane crud apps. Only the 200 IQ turbo-autists get to work on the core products.

>>50849717
Before I dip my foot in.

>>50849674
Just go to W3schools and take the C++ intro.

>>50844875
It will never be oversaturated.

In all other high IQ professions, work is done in response to a fixed rate of external demand, perhaps linearly increasing with population size. But in software, demand for work increases geometrically with the amount of software in existence. This is because built software requires maintenance and enhancements, so more work. Not only does the underlying demand for software functionality drive demand for developers, but the software itself begets more demand, since it "sticks around" in a way that, say, a court case doesn't once finished, taking Lawyers and the Law as an example.

Not only this, but there is limitless scope for and minimal regulation around software. Contrast this with, say, engineering, where there is only a fixed amount of space in which to do engineering projects and massive regulatory barriers around doing big projects. So in spite of engineering work also begetting more work in the form of maintenance and enhancements like software, unlike software it is fundamentally restricted in multiple dimensions.

>>50849850
Or in five words, "software is eating the world"

>>50849669
Bless, didn't even know this existed.

>>50849994
People don't really understand what that means so you have to spell it out.

>>50844701
It is actually pretty easy to learn the foundational stuff. After that it's just miserable because every new thing you learn feels more like you're learning a trick. You just wait for that moment when you suddenly are coding A.I. and shit, but it just never happens because that's not really what coding is. You're always just basically building big intricate calculators or automating things where the automating process is more trouble than it's worth 90% of the time.

>>50847525
Let's not get ahead of ourselves
First, get a standard calculus text and dive in. You should also get linear algebra and discrete math books as well; make sure the discrete text is proof based.

Once you're a couple chapters in to your discrete book (you will want to have covered basic proposition and higher order logic, and basic proofs), you may begin learning programming and computer architecture. As a litmus test, if you don't know what this statement is

∀P((0∈P∧∀i(i∈P-->i+1∈P))-->∀n(n∈P))

you aren't ready to take the reins of a computer.

Now, forget what you do know about computer programming:

First, you learn boolean logic operations
then, you learn transistor logic
then, you learn how to build functional units from logic gates
then, you learn CPU design
then, and only then, you learn assembly language
then, after you have mastered assembly language (not dabbled, but mastered it), you learn C,
then you may learn the higher-level languages of your choice, but you will always use C and assembly as your primary languages because everything else is unnecessary bloat.

By this time you should be finished with your first wave of math and ready for the next: abstract algebra, analysis, multivariate and vector calculus, and, after you have progressed a way in those, topology.

Finally, you become familiar with topoi, and study the internal logic of categories
then familiarize yourself with (general) type theory, and its applications to programming. I also recommend studying how to reformulate mathematics in terms of globular categories for use in automatic theorem proving, because there is an inherent programming-like 'feel' to it.

>>50844737
durgasoft

>>50849764
dip your toe in first, then the rest of your foot

>>50851654
So how would this help me kill Jews?

https://java-programming.mooc.fi/

Hands down the best course. Even if yoh want to go for anything else than Java. Java is getting a lot of shit here, but I live in Western Europe and the entire corporate world is strung together through API's. Java and Spring is my livelyhood.

>>50847525
>learn how compilers work
you lost me here. since when can you learn how fucking readable human code can get translated into machine language?!

>>50852011
You can not simultaneously call yourself a programmer and a white man if you have not written a compiler. Seethe more pajeet.

>>50851851
You need to code the AI that will wipe them out

It is if you learn python. I never realized how ridiculously easy python is compared to everything else

>>50846313
>that low level bullshit pdf
Lmao no one gives a fuck about that stuff boomer
Learn react, node.js and typescript

>>50852089
not having types sucks though, and switch statements to a far less extent

>>50852093
>she thinks haskell is a low level language

>>50849850
finally a non brainlet take on coding jobs on biz

>>50847525
Just do CS50 and then make a few web projects and python projects. It's enough to BS a webshitter interview.

>>50844701
coding is unironically a job for incel autists. they can't talk about anything else than computers even on a date. each one of them is like this

>>50852011
How do you think you compilers are built you fucking mongoloid.

>>50844701
I was a fuckup alcoholic and I learned it well enough to be making six figures now with the literal easiest gig in existence

>>50853472
I never talk about programming and I fuck women. They ask me about it and are impressed, they think it requires more brainpower than it actually does

>>50845626
25 years at least
t. oldfag programmer

>>50844701
first of all, code doesnt look like that when humans write it. And it is very straight forward and easy to code. Especially if we are talking shit like C#.

>>50853472
I guess im an exception to the rule then. I bet I make a whole lot more money than you, and i definitely eat way more pussy than you.

Lel cope wagie, back in cagie.

>>50849674
Play Baba is you

DUDE JUST SLAVE AWAY AT A JOB YOU HATE FOR 40 YEARS DUDE JUST PUT ON A FAKE PERSONALITY HAHA NETFLIX GOOD HOLIDAYS GOOD COOL KIDS KAREN OOPS FORGOT TO SMILE FOR A SECOND OOPS HUMAN RESOURCES FIRING ME DUDE JUST PAY FOR RENT WITH YOUR SAVINGS DUDE MANAGER SAYS YOU'RE NOT A TEAM PLAYER YOU'RE A SMART GUY ANON WE JUST NEED SOMEONE WHO LEANS IN MORE ADDS VALUE TAKES A STRATEGIC APPROACH DUDE PLS FIX THE SLIDE HAS THE WRONG FONT COME HAVE LUNCH WITH US BECKY GOT PROMOTED WE ARE A FAMILY IT'S NOT WHAT YOU KNOW IT'S HOW YOU SAY IT WE BUILT A FRAMEWORK TO FRAME EMOTIONS AND BUILD CAPABILITY AND DIVERSIFY NETWORKS MANDATORY QUOTA INDIGENOUS LAND GRAB OATH PLEDGE OF FORGIVENESS INEQUALITY IT'S NOT A CORE VALUE IT RUNS THROUGH EVERYTHING DUDE WHAT IS YOUR WEAKNESS WHY WORK HERE EXECUTIVE PRESENCE MANDATORY TRAINING SHOW LEADERSHIP IS ABOUT FOLLOWING WHICH IS ABOUT LEADING DUDE OPEN PLAN OFFICE CAN'T HEAR YOURSELF THINK CAN'T THINK CAN'T OOPS SORRY WAS ON MUTE LET'S TAKE THIS OFFLINE I DON'T NEED THE DETAILS

>>50844701
DUDE JUST SIT IN FRONT OF YOUR COMPUTER FOR 4 YEARS STRAIGHT RESEARCHING THEN GET OUTPERFORMED BY 18 YEAR OLD DOGCOIN TRADERS DUDE JUST RESEARCH NODES STAKING TVL RSI DAPPS NFTS DEX'S RUGPULLS YIELD FARMING GAMEFI GAS SOLIDITY ERC-20 STABLECOINS ORACLES ICOS SHARDING SMART CONTRACTS COMPOUND SCALABILITY PRESALES FORKS AIRDROPS PROTOCOLS TOKENOMICS DAOS LIQUIDITY PARTNERSHIPS L2 ETHEREUM AVALNCHE SOLANA TERRA CRONOS POLYGON COSMOS NEAR TRON XRP BSC FANTOM ICP HEDERA UNISWAP AND 500 OTHER COINS 24/7 AND THEN YOU MIGHT MAKE IT IN 4 YEARS DUDE JUST WATCH THE LINE GO UP AND DOWN ALL DAY LONG AND MANAGE TO NOT GO CRAZY AND BUY WHEN THE LINE IS LOW AND SELL WHEN THE LINE IS UP DUDE JUST DAYTRADE AND MAKE 1% A DAY DUDE JUST LEARN MOVING AVERAGE MACD RSI CCI STOCHIASTIC BOLLINGER BANDS SUPER TREND WILLIAM'S %R VOLUME EMA OPEN INTEREST VWAP TWAP BRAP FIBONACCI RETRACEMENT ADI CORRELATION COEFFICIENT MONEY FLOW INDEX ACCULUMATION DISTRIBUTION DUDE JUST AVOID GETTING HACKED EVEN THOUGH THE STRESS OF BEING POTENTIALLY HACKED AT ANY TIME EATS AWAY AT YOU DUDE JUST USE 100X LEVERAGE THEN IT ONLY HAS TO GO UP 1% TO DOUBLE YOUR MONEY DUDE JUST BROWSE /BIZ/ ALL DAY LONG AND MANAGE TO NOT GO CRAZY GOING THROUGH 100,000 PEPE WOJAK BOBO MUMU AND SNIB POSTS TO GET THAT 1 RARE GEM POST THAT MIGHT GIVE YOU A 5X RETURN IF YOU BUY AT THE RIGHT TIME NOW DUDE JUST BUY SONIC ETHER OBAMA HARRY POTTER 10 NIGGER DOGE CUNT COCK COIN EARLY AND WAIT FOR THAT 100,000X DUDE JUST PUT ALL OF YOUR MONEY INTO A YIELD FARM AND MAKE 40% A YEAR ON A COIN THAT DEPRECEATES 80% IN VALUE A YEAR DUDE JUST BUY BITCOIN AND HOPE THAT IT WILL BECOME THE WORLD RESERVE CURRENCY IN LIKE 40 YEARS DUDE JUST BUY THE HYPERLINK TO A FUNNY PICTURE OF A MONKEY FOR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND RESELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE FOR A HIGHER PRICE

>DUDE JUST GET AN OFFICE JOB LMAO. DUDE JUST GO TO COLLEGE FOR 4 YEARS AND STUDY SOMETHING IT DOESN'T MATTER DUDE RACK UP $100K IN LOANS AND GET A PIECE OF PAPER. DUDE JUST APPLY TO 80 JOBS A DAY IN LINKEDIN AND NETWORK AND MAKE CONNECTIONS AND TALK TO YOUR SCHOOL'S CAREER OFFICE. DUDE JUST MANUALLY TYPE IN THE SAME INFORMATION YOU HAVE ON YOUR RESUME INTO THE HUMAN RESOURCES APPLICATION PORTAL OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND DUDE AFTER APPLYING TO 750 JOBS JUST TALK TO 250 DIFFERENT RETARDED HR WOMEN ON A PHONE SCREEN AND DO 100 DIFFERENT FIRST ROUND VIDEO INTERVIEWS AND 50 DIFFERENT SECOND ROUND VIDEO INTERVIEWS AND 25 DIFFERENT THIRD ROUND INTERVIEWS AND DUDE GET GHOSTED BY 24 OF THOSE BEFORE THIRD ROUND INTERVIEWS YOU GET 1 OFFER. DUDE YOU DID IT CONGRATULATIONS LMAO!!!!!! DUDE JUST SHOW UP TO THE JOB WITH A SMILE ON YOUR FACE AND WEAR BUSINESS CASUAL AND SIT IN A FLUORESCENT LIT, OPEN OFFICE WAGECATTLE KILLFLOOR FOR 10 HOURS A DAY ON SALARY BECAUSE WE HAVE DEADLINES TO MEET AND WE'RE SHORTSTAFFED BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE DUE WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND MANAGEMENT PROMISED THEY'D REASSESS THE MANPOW -- SORRY, I MEAN STAFFING BUDGET NEXT FISCAL YEAR. DUDE JUST BE A TEAM AND PLAYER AND SPEAK UP DURING MEETINGS AND DRIVE PROCESS IMPROVEMENTS AND USE BUZZWORDS UNIRONICALLY, LIKE DUDE YOU REALLY NEED TO SEE THE 30,000 FOOT VIEW BUT DON'T BOIL THE OCEAN IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. DUDE DON'T FORGET TO SIGN YOUR BOSS'S BIRTHDAY CARD AND DUDE THAT GIRL FROM ACCOUNTS PAYABLE THAT YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IS HAVING A BABY AND WE'RE ALL CHIPPING IN TO BUY HER A BABY SHOWER GIFT DUDE I'LL SEND YOU THE VENMO INFO LATER THE SUGGESTED DONATION IS $50. DUDE I'M NOT SAYING THAT YOU HAVE TO DONATE BUT NOT CHIPPING IN WOULD BE A BAD LOOK SINCE YOU'RE NEW AND ALL. BY THE WAY WE NEED YOU TO COME IN EARLY TOMORROW THERE'S AN HOUR LONG 8:00 AM ALL HANDS MEETING AND BTW DON'T FORGET TO DO YOUR QUARTERLY COMPLIANCE TRAININGS, THEY'RE DUE TOMORROW BY 9:00 AM SHARP. DUDE JUST GET AN OFFICE JOB LMAO.

>DUDE YOU NEED TO DRIVE INNOVATION AND THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX LMAO. DUDE I DON'T WANT TO BE "THAT GUY" BUT YOUR PERFORMANCE IS SUFFERING AND I FEEL THAT YOU'RE LAGGING BEHIND YOUR PEERS. DUDE EVERYONE HAS NOTICED THAT YOU BARELY SPEAK IN MEETINGS. DUDE YOU NEED TO START BEING A TEAM PLAYER, TO VOLUNTEER FOR MORE WORK, TO MAKE YOUR OPINIONS KNOWN. DUDE AND I REALLY NEED YOU TO LEARN MORE AND BE A SME -- DUDE THAT MEANS SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT, YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS BY NOW -- AND TO BE TO THE GO TO GU -- SORRY, I MEAN THE GO TO PERSON.
>DUDE I'M SORRY AND I REALLY DON'T WANT TO DO THIS BUT I'M GONNA HAVE TO PUT YOU ON A PIP -- DUDE, COME ON, THAT MEANS PERFORMANCE IMPROVEMENT PLAN -- UNTIL YOU SHAPE UP. DUDE YOU HAVE 90 DAYS TO CORRECT THESE PROBLEMS AND YOU'RE NO LONGER ELIGIBLE FOR THE 3% ANNUAL PERFORMANCE BASED BONUS AND YOU WILL AUTOMATICALLY BE CONSIDERED AS "DOES NOT MEET EXPECTATIONS" IN YOUR ANNUAL REVIEWS. DUDE I'M ALSO GONNA NEED YOU TO SCHEDULE A 1 HOUR MEETING EVERY MORNING WITH STACY FROM HR TO DISCUSS YOUR GOALS FOR THE DAY AND HOW YOU'RE MAKING PROGRESS TOWARD GETTING OFF THIS PIP -- DUDE, I TOLD YOU BEFORE, IT MEANS PROGRESS IMPROVEMENT PLAN, COME ON!

>>50847525
do this but in reverse

>>50846588
>>50846256
>master troll
holy kek

I tried, too hard to do anything more advanced than some console shit.
GUI? Good luck, forced watch some 2009 pajeet playlist on YouTube to understand it
Interacting with a database? Mysteries that only a super sekrit club know about.

>>50854504
the problem is how homo people are about it using unnecessary terms and gatekeeping the profession. sometimes you will spend 5 hours figuring shit out that could have been explained in 60 seconds but everyone has to use gay bullshit words and phrasing everywhere

>>50854459
>>50854474
>tfw someone saved your copypasta
you're missing the DUDE JUST LEARN A TRADE LMAO one, however.
>DUDE JUST LEARN A TRADE LMAO DUDE JUST WORK AS A HELPER TO GAIN EXPERIENCE BECAUSE THEY ALL WANT APPRENTICES WITH EXPERIENCE DUDE JUST MAKE FRIENDS WITH SOMEONE IN THE UNION AND KEEP REAPPLYING OVER AND OVER UNTIL YOU FINALLY GET IN AND THEN SPEND 5 YEARS DOING APPRENTICE TRAINING GETTING ABUSED BY BOOMER BOSSES AND BOOMER FOREMEN AND RETARDED ALCOHOLIC DRUG ADDICT COWORKERS DUDE JUST KEEP DOING THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM EVEN IF THEY CUT YOUR HOURS FOR A LACK OF WORK AND THE 5 YEAR PROGRAM TURNS INTO 7 YEARS WHEN YOU FINALLY FINISH IT DUDE JUST WORK 60 HOURS A WEEK ON MANDATORY OVERTIME FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE DUDE JUST WAKE UP AT 4 AM AND DRIVE 1 HOUR TO THE JOBSITE IN A RATFUCK PICKUP TRUCK AND DRINK A GALLON OF COFFEE AND SMOKE A PACK OF CIGARETTES BY NOON JUST TO STAY AWAKE DUDE JUST IGNORE THE BACK PAIN AND KNEE PAIN AND JOINT PAIN DUDE KEEP WORKING, WORK UNTIL NIGHTFALL AND SPEND YOUR ENTIRE LIFE BREAKING YOUR BACK IN THE HOT AND THE COLD DUDE IT'S WORTH IT BECAUSE YOU MAKE $100K A YEAR DUDE JUST LEARN A TRADE WHO NEEDS COLLEGE DUDE ALL 157 MILLION WORKERS IN THE UNITED STATES NEED TO LEARN A TRADE DUDE LITERALLY EVERYONE SHOULD BE AN ELECTRICIAN, OR A PLUMBER, OR A WELDER, OR A CARPENTER, DUDE LEARN A TRADE LMAO

>>50844737
Just finish a project, then finish another one. Keep and repeat.

>>50849850
Good post. Coding has crazy potential to be a part of EVERYTHING.

What comes after coding? AI Singularity that codes itself??? Seems like coding is eternal.

>>50852093
You likely won't have to work at that level, but if you want to know your craft, you should have a good conceptual understanding of how a computer works, from the level of transistors up to the modern language stack you use on a daily basis.

>>50844737
figure out WHAT you want to do first retard? its the equivalent of asking
>how do I speak a language
what type of language do you want to learn? a romance or germanic? this is some forethought required to even begin learning a new subject. i wont point towards shit but find out what you could feasibly do

>>50854562
>tfw there is no copypasta regarding Academia
extra-comfy, kek

>>50852093
Yikes everyone at my firm gets that textbook when they join the company. Enjoy middle income.

say something nice about C with classes

>>50844737
https://learnyousomeerlang.com/book
https://cryptozombies.io/

>>50854425
>>50854435
>>50854459
kek

>>50851977
I really want to work in Europe. Could you give me any insight into what skills/tasks you use to the most in your day to day or that you think is important? And anything else really. Whats something a European company would look for?

>>50844701

> var .a = [ ], b, c, d, e

Written by female buzzfeed writer.

>>50849850
nailed it

>>50844701
It is. You know some scripts only look like your pic to cut out the empty spaces so the file size is smaller, right?

>>50849527
its code you stupid nigger, just unreadable format, bootstrap package format their code this way

>>50849850
this is probably the most retarded thing i've ever read.

>>50856645
false

they do it because they have an indescribably small micropenis

>>50856844
Why?

>>50858011
his analysis is ignorant of market forces and economics. he's confusing scaling software production with scaling software sales. more market competition means prices come down. software developers are paid relative to how much money they can make the company. more market competition means lower prices means lower pay for software developers. ask anyone who works in SaaS sales how competitive the marketplace is.

i think it's only a matter of time before this "thing" that is in "everything" (software) becomes commoditized, regardless of how skilled or difficult it is. a good example of this is industrial scientific research. highly specialized experts (PhD holders) with a decade of education are lucky to make $100-140k/year in pharma. yet boot campers with 12 weeks of javascript framework experience can make nearly that same amount of money. does this sound sustainable? or does it sound far more likely that the market value of their skillset will, over time, be driven down by the usual practices?

>>50858450
I see. good post.

>>50851977
Java and C# seem to be kings in the EU. Easy to get a job as a php Dev too. Frontend is mostly react or Vue.

>>50846256
kek as soon as I saw the title of this thread I knew this video would appear eventually
>2:00:35

>>50846256
Based, someone reuploaded it

or maybe that kid reuploaded his own videos, he initially took them down after /g/ found them lol

>>50846313
>sussman
no cap I aint vibing with these homies rn

>>50852104
>haskell
scheme is not haskell

Too much math to solve bro, it's too boring. I'd rather wage at a Mcdonalds or something

>>50844737
Choose something that allows you to live like an human, anon.
t. 12 years into coding

>>50859392
The real trick is to find a middle wage wfh 60-70k job that is mostly just excel or data entry/reviewing and automate it and just be a neet.

>>50854875
Why? That seems like you're saying a mechanic should know how metal is mined, refined and fabricated if he is going to fix engines.

>>50859392
>Too much math to solve bro
Lol no

>>50854216
teach me how you did this senpai i want to easymaxxx and switch careers

>>50844701
Not as easy as said Anon. currently learning VR programming and content development so I can deploy 3D content on holoride VR gaming tech.

>>Posts image of minified Javascript which is compressed
>>compressed removes replaces all variable names with letters thereby obscuring human readability
>> claims coding is impossible.
*yawn*
Keep pushing the coding is hard meme - makes my career more stable in the long run

>>50863441
Go to a coding boot camp. Learn C#/.NET. You should be able to get a job not long after you graduate and you’ll work your way up from there. Most jobs nowadays are remote

Do I need to know algorithms really well to get a job? Unironically getting filtered by sorting algorithms rn. If anyone has good resources pls share

>>50844701
>ctrl A
>alt shift F

>>50844875
>the bubble will burst soon.
kek
yeah
after all
people and businesses are just gonna stop using computers

>>50844701
Is gamedev even worth it these days? I know wages are much lower than if you're working in fintech or for some scammy startups, and a gaming industry crash is coming this decade, no doubt. But at the same time I feel gaming will recover quickly and will only keep growing because it's so ubiquitous that even boomers game these days.

>>50851654
So I did all that and the front end dev that dabbles in JavaScript when he isn't using html and css makes more than me :(

>>50854806
>Coding has crazy potential to be a part of EVERYTHING.
>autos existed for a over half a century before adding transistors
>2022, can't buy a car because of a michroship shortage
honestly can't wait for the backlash on this (in the west). we don't need a *smart* version of everything, at a certain point you know it's make-work for programmers. by parents bought a digital kettle when the old one sprang a leak. wtf why do you need to program something that just boils water? fuck costco for not even carrying a normal kettle.

>>50854425
>>50854435
>>50854459
I'll summarize a bit
>DUDE JUST KILL YOURSELF

>>50864682
check out 'the machine stops' by EM Forster

>>50860724
>seems like
yeah, it seems that way to you because you have no idea what you're talking about.

been in the industry for 5 years now, you don't need to know much at all to be a junior dev. but at the senior level in a company where you're writing high-performance, highly scalable backend software you absolutely need to know how stuff works at the lower level or you'll never be able to make optimizations.

I had bought that Python for idiots book, should start doing some excercises from it

>>50852011
I really want to believe this is bait

>>50854459
>MAKE DUE
stopped reading right there

I know Python + SQL decently because it’s piss easy and my boss thinks I’m a genius for just doing the shit we do in excel 1000x more efficiently, but recently started learning rust so I could feel like a “real programmer”. Guess what I’m realizing is my lack of knowledge of structuring projects to write apps and shit and I honestly am more interested in analytics than software. Questions are:
1) best path towards being a great analyst including RDBMS and ETL stuff? Where do I start if I already have an alright understanding of statistics (factor analysis, regression/ANOVA)
2) is there even a reason to git gud at rust or should I just learn further into Python
3) why does anyone even use C over Rust?

>spent the entire summer of 1995 learning QBASIC and making shitty text adventures and haven't programmed since
How can I monetize this skillset?

>>50865585
>at the senior level in a company where you're writing high-performance, highly scalable backend software
ya...most people are happy to make $200-300k at the mid level for their career.

It's hard to say prepping to be senior at company where optimization matters is important. We just need a relatively few people in the world that can do that.

>>50865801
>2) is there even a reason to git gud at rust or should I just learn further into Python
If you're going to biz analytics, there's no reason to pursue Rust as more than your hobby/side thing.
>>50865801
>3) why does anyone even use C over Rust?
Not sure, but I'd imagine someone already knowing C/C++ has a certain inertia.

This thread was awesome. Thank you too everyone whomstdve participated. Hopefully someday I can get a comfy wfh coding job like you.
Know that you gave me hope. Bless.

>>50859346
he may be sussy but he aint no baka

>>50866598
Remember to think about what you're building, and whether or not it's something you want in the world.
There are a lot of sociopaths out there who will pay you to write code to manipulate, control, or otherwise harm people.

>>50855137
>my firm
Lmao hello boomer

>>50844719
First post unapologetically best post